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  • @firestorm8265
    @firestorm8265 Год назад +4449

    As a genuine iron player, I don’t know wether if I want to cry about this or not.

    • @autenthic7579
      @autenthic7579 Год назад +775

      just sell ur account and don't play the game dude, it's a winning winning decision.

    • @C0astDelta
      @C0astDelta Год назад +523

      Unironically, sell, make another, play ranked, sell

    • @firestorm8265
      @firestorm8265 Год назад +232

      @@C0astDelta I literally did this 4 days ago and now I’m in bronze.

    • @C0astDelta
      @C0astDelta Год назад +63

      @@firestorm8265 welp, least you made some cash!

    • @Playeriyo20
      @Playeriyo20 Год назад +57

      @@firestorm8265 Well now you are bronze your account is less valuable now stop climbing !!!!

  • @curtiswalker8457
    @curtiswalker8457 2 года назад +5556

    "its so hard to get into iron"
    me and the boys: You know, I'm something of a pro myself.

    • @AdamX1124
      @AdamX1124 Год назад +136

      Bro I wish I found this video 6 months ago when I was hardstuck iron IV and getting like 7 LP a win and losing 18 a loss. I coulda sold that shit

    • @Ehenzel
      @Ehenzel Год назад +19

      @@AdamX1124 I still win 5lp per game and lost 31 lp in one defeat but i do not want to sell my first ever account

    • @qtfy
      @qtfy Год назад +40

      my friend's dad plays league daily, and he is iron 3
      he play solely urgot and misses every ult possible
      he still likes the game tho, he plays for fun and it actually super funny to play clash with him

    • @syme4827
      @syme4827 8 месяцев назад

      You have the perfect money printing scheme , Just make him play urgot on different accounts xd@@qtfy

    • @misutatomasu
      @misutatomasu 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@AdamX1124 How is it even humanly possible to be Iron IV? Do you play with your feet or something?

  • @santoast5700
    @santoast5700 Год назад +1181

    This made me feel extremely trash I’ve never felt so attacked on a deep personal level

  • @aatsiii
    @aatsiii Год назад +1419

    It's pretty sad that the creator haven't pointed out how destructive for the community is deboosting. Like he said, it's 150 win streak for mediocre streamer plus 300 intentional loses for lowlife debooster, that's 450 games, and 9 players in each for over 4000 people who have their fun ruined.

    • @florinalinmarginean1135
      @florinalinmarginean1135 10 месяцев назад

      It's almost like the smurf market is literal cancer to this game and Rito should do something about it before new players stop coming into the game because they immediately get destroyed by plat cocksuckers who need an ego boost by playing in bronze and iron.
      Just my 2 cents though

    • @aromatic8565
      @aromatic8565 10 месяцев назад +1

      You mean virtue signalling? Let's do it then! Did you use a phone to write that comment? Don't forget, it was likely produced in a Chinese sweatshop! Eat any chicken today? That chicken lived a life rammed into a cage with 500 others, barely able to breathe!
      Literally everything you have ever used, from salt to your phone, has had way more destruction on personal lives. And you sit here enjoying it. Yet you're here drawing the line at league of legends games. What a saint you are.

    • @fiizkenfiizk7645
      @fiizkenfiizk7645 10 месяцев назад +61

      Stuck in iron because of people like that it sucks. Every game someone int or afk or troll. Or you get in a team with bots, thats also fun :))))))

    • @CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR
      @CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@fiizkenfiizk7645What's ur in game name?

    • @cooc643
      @cooc643 10 месяцев назад +118

      @@fiizkenfiizk7645 No, you are stuck in iron because you are iron

  • @meethepie
    @meethepie 2 года назад +11363

    "Even if you have a positive impact as a jungler, you'll probably get reported anyways"
    Damn I felt that

    • @Xurreal
      @Xurreal 2 года назад +149

      110% True.

    • @diogoribeiro477
      @diogoribeiro477 2 года назад +349

      Midlaner playing imobile mage dies 3 times to a tank hecarim gank even though there were wards but he overstayed and/or was oom. types "jungle diff" in chat

    • @gabriele.franca
      @gabriele.franca 2 года назад +46

      @@diogoribeiro477 i want to put more than one like

    • @quixxyify
      @quixxyify 2 года назад +41

      @@jakeparis5252 Thats a complete lie, either u were legit running it down or typing back, which made ur acc banned. Riot will never ban an acc, cuz some 12yo Jimmy didnt like, that his jungler didnt camp the shit out of his lane or didnt act like his servant, wiping his shit for him. People, who tend to do shitload of reports for zero reasons, dont pass that trust limit from riot's report system, and their reports pretty much mean nothing, unless system flags something besides it. And yes, im playing league pretty much since beta, and half of that time, even more, i think, im a jungler.

    • @amadeus2599
      @amadeus2599 2 года назад +41

      @@quixxyify true but if you are a jungle main you will get reported constantly by other players because people love to balme junglers for everything that goes wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if after hundreds of games and many reports from toxic people, there will be a game where the system picks up something like an unfortunate disconnection or just down a terrible game for what ever reason an ban the player. It's sad but I don't think it's impossible for it to happen.

  • @InnoSang
    @InnoSang 2 года назад +2608

    "their playstyle is so unique, that normal human beings have to tryhard in order to be as dogshit as theyr are" Lmfo this line is gold

    • @SoDamnMetal
      @SoDamnMetal 2 года назад +16

      and absolutely true 😆

    • @alexheller5602
      @alexheller5602 2 года назад +109

      Look what you need to mimic a fraction of my power

    • @stfu1159
      @stfu1159 2 года назад +16

      made even me an iron 1 player laugh

    • @goldkubera4740
      @goldkubera4740 2 года назад +11

      @@stfu1159 i'm currently .. practicing champs in ranked with massive champ pool beyond what i can handle 30+ so i often get shit oon REALLY hard but after 120+ hours i still cannot demote below gold so i don't know how you guys do it

    • @stfu1159
      @stfu1159 2 года назад +16

      @@goldkubera4740 we just play like complete garbage, while were thinking that were playing good

  • @albellansfeld211
    @albellansfeld211 Год назад +336

    Imagine all the poor players that tried and got banned just because they were that bad. what a shock it must have been to get told by the game itself you're too trash to play this game.

    • @jym2r
      @jym2r 9 месяцев назад +77

      i was nearly this player lol. i was a noob that spammed master yi and didnt know shit about items and was bronze 3. then i realized "damn im shit i got to actually train like its a sport if i want to improve" so i started watching my replays and watching league pros and eventually went to plat. then i realized how lame it is that im genuinely putting time and effort into this shit video game so i stopped 😂

    • @peacebuddha96
      @peacebuddha96 9 месяцев назад +30

      ​@@jym2rwhat a success story 😂

    • @PHLOPPA-REAL
      @PHLOPPA-REAL 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@jym2rwhat's your in-game name?

    • @jym2r
      @jym2r 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@PHLOPPA-REAL Jymer

    • @abutterfly1351
      @abutterfly1351 7 месяцев назад +12

      Not the same, but I used to know a girl who was solely an Irelia one-trick. She would peak around Plat only playing Irelia. As Irelia, she knew what items to build, how to utilize her mobility, the matchups and trading, and a lot of other top-lane related stuff that most people would consider basic game knowledge. However, this was not the case for any other champion. If Irelia was not playable that game due to someone else picking or banning it, she would pick some other champion like Akali or Teemo and just try her best. In these cases, she absolutely was unable to transfer any knowledge she had playing Irelia into top lane/other filled roles. There were games where she went 1/18 as Akali simply because she extensively limit tested Irelia and knew what to do to always beat the enemy laner, but on Akali, would simply look like she went in and inted when she tried the same strategies. It even lowered her honor level to 0 as a result of Riot thinking that she was "soft-inting." The response back to her appeal ticket for her multiple suspensions literally said, "We cannot reverse the temporary suspensions placed on your account. To perform to the degree of (insert details of Akali matches) is clearly a form of soft-inting." The thing is, she was not soft-inting. She straight up sucked at the game as someone who only enjoyed and knew how to abuse Irelia, but could not play any other champion. Back when I used to play matches with her, it would always be smooth sailing since she could 1v9 almost all of the games, but we would genuinely consider dodging if Irelia was not available to play to avoid the VERY likely loss. Akali/Teemo were just champions she fell back on as her most comfortable, by the way; she already performed incredibly poorly on them, so imagine her on champions that she simply did not consider within her comfort pool. (We never played ARAMs for obvious reasons.)
      Typing this out makes me think retrospectively about how it could possibly be that she was actually shit at the game due to such a gaping lack of game knowledge allowing her to produce the shittiest of K/D/As, and maybe her relatively minimal moments of success was just attributed to how Irelia at the time only needed button-mashing to win. It's odd since I personally do not consider Irelia that broken anymore or even that easy, but there is no other logical explanation at least that I know of for someone to be so good at a specific champion and unable to win with anyone else.

  • @kennethknight5964
    @kennethknight5964 7 месяцев назад +28

    now it makes sense why getting to silver was an impossible task that took RNG of the gods and it was completely based on my team. Silver to gold was a breeze and extremely enjoyable with good players. this hurts the game more then it helps it

    • @dotonthehorizon9620
      @dotonthehorizon9620 7 месяцев назад +1

      It doesnt only hurt more than help, it only hurts the game, it doesnt help at all

    • @zionlee1004
      @zionlee1004 5 месяцев назад +1

      You are literally lying. I can play with my shlong and still carry myself out of iron and bronze. You literally have 9 people worse than bots. Its not evencse to impossible.
      Its even more impossible to lose in iron if you are a human and have hands lmao

    • @gaborcsuzi4504
      @gaborcsuzi4504 3 месяца назад +2

      @@dotonthehorizon9620 Well, mathematically, all of those peoples trying to lose intentionally, rage quitting, afking, etc are helping you more than it helps the enemy, LoL players just tend to only recognize it in their own team.
      Lets say you want to win, you aren't afking, quitting mid game, etc. There is 4 slots in your team for such a player, and 5 slots in the enemy team. You have a higher chance (56%) that the enemy team gets one of them. If there is 1 of them in every single match, your win rate is instantly boosted to 56% by this fact alone. If their number is not even close to that 1 per game, then it doesn't really matter anyways, because it affects nothing, and its all just whining.

    • @gamera5160
      @gamera5160 2 месяца назад

      @@zionlee1004 It's easy to climb in low elo if you have a 1v9 champ, but if you have a champ that relies on cooperation with your teammates, it can be extremely difficult. As a support player, playing in bronze has always been difficult, but climbing afterwards is much easier.

  • @TheFinalMaelstrom
    @TheFinalMaelstrom 2 года назад +2575

    (Master Yi) is on the way
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi) is asking for assistance
    (Master Yi): what's your address so I can formally send an invitation next time
    LMFAO
    8:28

    • @kerwinwarner2743
      @kerwinwarner2743 2 года назад +24

      Lol I blocked out those game screen it began to hurt me

    • @WelfareCenter
      @WelfareCenter 2 года назад +30

      Dude, thats 7 pings.. thats legitimately impossible..

    • @BenjaminGreenYT
      @BenjaminGreenYT 2 года назад +225

      He may be iron but that Yi's banter is challenger level

    • @justiceisanillusion5602
      @justiceisanillusion5602 2 года назад +7

      @@BenjaminGreenYT He is gold. Not iron.

    • @marche229
      @marche229 2 года назад +13

      I can't stop laughing, thanks for making me see it.

  • @diegodiego9593
    @diegodiego9593 2 года назад +4251

    I have a friend who ints any lane he goes in, in most of his games, and still manages to hit silver. Being unironically iron is really an ermous achievement

    • @manteiga4346
      @manteiga4346 2 года назад +233

      well thank you

    • @muglokdecrepitus1301
      @muglokdecrepitus1301 2 года назад +198

      I understand that people like my father that don't play videogames could be iron, but someone that doesn't play videogames would play league of legends and continue playing while not understanding a shit, so I don't understand how can be people being iron

    • @contentlegends7301
      @contentlegends7301 2 года назад +48

      I'm iron lol

    • @angelesintrickov5768
      @angelesintrickov5768 2 года назад +20

      No need to be so rude…

    • @lethabo713
      @lethabo713 2 года назад +18

      my poor feelings 😭😭

  • @naomhangreaney1255
    @naomhangreaney1255 Год назад +14

    I only started playing ranked this year and I was un-ironically placed into iron 1, my friends keep telling me to sell my account but I personally want to have the challenge of climbing from the base to the top

  • @gasgano8255
    @gasgano8255 8 месяцев назад +23

    I tried to get to iron 4 once for the lols. Same ideas, don't make it obvious, lose games but don't make it a shitty, because obvious, experience for everyone else. It was completely Impossible for me. Like mentally I was not able to want to lose as hard as was needed. It is absolutely a skill.

    • @TRVPHAUS
      @TRVPHAUS 5 месяцев назад

      bruh you start iron 4 wdf are you even talking about. YOU START IRON YOU DONT HAVE TO TRY AND GET THERE STUPIDEST SHIT I EVER HEARD

  • @angeleskimwelf.5678
    @angeleskimwelf.5678 2 года назад +2449

    It’s because even if the average league player tries to get to iron it’s impossible

    • @angeleskimwelf.5678
      @angeleskimwelf.5678 2 года назад +74

      So I was wrong…

    • @dcrow9650
      @dcrow9650 2 года назад +129

      One of my accounts is in Iron I. Didn't do anything special. Problems with the electricity service and the like. AFK on two rankeds and, there right to Iron 3.

    • @theboneman7493
      @theboneman7493 2 года назад +126

      @@angeleskimwelf.5678 Bruh I start in iron every season, idk why but I have to claw my way to gold for the free skin every time

    • @champnotchicken4318
      @champnotchicken4318 2 года назад +192

      @@dcrow9650 imma be honest and say that those 2 ranked games didn’t put you in iron.

    • @darkz4349
      @darkz4349 2 года назад +7

      I'm iron 2

  • @oliverolson6578
    @oliverolson6578 2 года назад +3631

    Props to DongHuaP for making the background footage accurately painful to watch at an iron level. It hurt me watching the background footage for this video, but it felt incredibly on point, like a piece of art that is objectively terrible but somehow speaks deeply to the human experience

    • @leichtgesalzener-kabeljaurogge
      @leichtgesalzener-kabeljaurogge 2 года назад +34

      it is kinda distracting though, gauging mz eyes out helped a bit

    • @alsparkproductions7849
      @alsparkproductions7849 2 года назад +46

      The Warwick trying to get the Darius...

    • @shai310
      @shai310 2 года назад +32

      Yeah it was really painful to watch but it does prove a point, while we usually look at players like these as bad players if they actually do it for elo deboosting they have to be really good at being bad.

    • @Denominus
      @Denominus 2 года назад +24

      Unironically I find Iron footage a lot more entertaining than pro play.

    • @curts7801
      @curts7801 2 года назад +8

      So wait, the fact that I start at iron every season means I could actually be profiting?
      Damn.

  • @IzumiChenmeiru
    @IzumiChenmeiru Год назад +4

    "Pinpoint Dogshit" is such a powerful phrase

  • @RosCCkpg
    @RosCCkpg 6 месяцев назад +1

    That end note was so good!

  • @delty8862
    @delty8862 2 года назад +3227

    You missed a key point about how hard it is to get to Iron 4. The queue times when you start getting that low start getting longer and longer, to the point that it can sometimes take as long as challenger queues, up to 30+ minutes. Because of this, the iron accounts start getting filled in Bronze and Silver lobbies to reduce queue times. When that happens the MMR calculation starts giving the Iron accounts much more MMR for a win, and losing a lot less for a loss. These two key points means that you have to actually lose exponentially more games in Iron in order to fall lower, and makes the entire process take hundreds of hours longer than you pointed out.

    • @henthaai
      @henthaai 2 года назад +190

      actually my boyfrie d is in iron 4 and he gets paired with bronze people like bronze 2 bc theres not enougj people in iron, and he still has a shit mmr, winning 4 lp and losing like 20 lmao, his mm doesnt even change after playing with me against gold people

    • @rogerroger4216
      @rogerroger4216 2 года назад +8

      das crazy

    • @AtomicStinger44
      @AtomicStinger44 2 года назад +48

      I have purposely dropped to iron 4. Took 2 months of dedication, struggling to maintain currently. Queue times are only like 2 to 5 minutes though.

    • @CorporalPT
      @CorporalPT 2 года назад +273

      @@henthaai how does it feel like to date a vegetable?

    • @nikoyh4477
      @nikoyh4477 2 года назад +25

      @@CorporalPT it's still good as long as he's in iron 4, what's making me tilted that 90% of ppl in plat do not deserve this rank

  • @dreampieofficial
    @dreampieofficial 2 года назад +1315

    We have come far enough as a society that you can both make money by being really good or really bad in league. What a time to be alive.

    • @lemon9.9
      @lemon9.9 2 года назад +57

      You have to be good at pretending to be bad

    • @curts7801
      @curts7801 2 года назад +58

      @@lemon9.9 or you can just actually be bad.
      I got that upper iron energy going for myself.

    • @latestcoder
      @latestcoder 2 года назад +8

      let's post a paper about this: AI gets you to Iron Elo

    • @truegamer2819
      @truegamer2819 2 года назад +9

      yea but its fucking stupid at the same time cause they're players that really wanna climb and win, if you using this method to be place in iron, then you deserve to be perm banned, i didnt know this was a thing for iron, it just pisses me off that riot would ruined a rank system for money, now i have a further reason not to like riot games

    • @FarmersAreCool
      @FarmersAreCool 2 года назад +3

      This means society is collapsing.

  • @walmartnibba4726
    @walmartnibba4726 Год назад +30

    as a wise man once said, "if given the option, gamers will optimize the fun out of any game"

  • @ModestToast3073
    @ModestToast3073 9 месяцев назад +7

    As someone who used to boost to immortal in valorant, taking tons of losses can be SUUUUPER boring. It's HARD to lose sometimes, but its not like you can just take a break on the winning games and pop off since it affects mmr so much. You have to be losing even in the games where you win and it's a serious toll on your mental when ranking up can take 10+ games.

  • @maliciousfacegaming8581
    @maliciousfacegaming8581 Год назад +544

    The fact that some people will pay hundreds of dollars for an iron account so they can brag about how many games they won in a row in Iron IV 0 lp makes me feel a little better about myself.

    • @ivaylosimeonov7227
      @ivaylosimeonov7227 9 месяцев назад +6

      You see, the fun thing is that I am kept in Iron because of such players. And since I am not a bad player, I sometimes win against such idiots. I am sure I have ended a lot of winning streaks, because i see how surprised enemies are, when I backdoor a Nexus or I win a team fight, which seems to be unwinnable (e.g. by jumping in with a Singed, which has Rylai's and 230+ armor). Now, after viewing this video I begin to understand the reasons behind how strange and unplayable LoL has become.

    • @aaabbb-zc7sx
      @aaabbb-zc7sx 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@ivaylosimeonov7227iron genuenly feels harder than bronze,because some hardstuck platinum 4chinner with low self esteem will always be there to carry the enemy team

    • @nikademientieff966
      @nikademientieff966 8 месяцев назад +1

      Honestly this strategy has earned them back thousands of dollars from views and clout

    • @ailurusfulgens1849
      @ailurusfulgens1849 7 месяцев назад +16

      @@ivaylosimeonov7227 You're stuck in iron because you're iron. Stop being delusional about your skills.

    • @CryptoNews2
      @CryptoNews2 5 месяцев назад

      @@ivaylosimeonov7227 Can't you just 1v5 them and get out of Iron?

  • @thefallenangel6945
    @thefallenangel6945 2 года назад +784

    That genuine iron player watching this video appreciating himself for his skills that even he didn't knew he had 😂😂

    • @Dachi_X
      @Dachi_X 2 года назад +11

      nah bro i just want to die after this

    • @caitlynscafe4882
      @caitlynscafe4882 2 года назад +32

      Me. T-T

    • @thefallenangel6945
      @thefallenangel6945 2 года назад

      @@Dachi_X 😅

    • @regretsin8502
      @regretsin8502 Год назад +15

      divine skill, flawless and firm
      but really I have a 28% win rate and am Iron II even though I've been playing for 2 years and have over 250 games this season save me

    • @equinox2655
      @equinox2655 Год назад +3

      @@regretsin8502 bro I’ve been playing for almost a year and I am iron 3 75 lp, what role do u play?

  • @TheStormSuspect
    @TheStormSuspect Год назад +77

    It actually took me and my friend WEEKS of trying to ‘lose’ to get iron4 on accounts a few years ago and holy shit… it was so hard… I’ve quit league since then and it was by far the hardest experience I’ve had. Harder than getting high diamond when I played s3-5

    • @martenl7327
      @martenl7327 Год назад

      why did you quit league? =(

    • @TheStormSuspect
      @TheStormSuspect Год назад +27

      @@martenl7327 old school RuneScape makes me $, league makes me angry. Easy choice for me lol

    • @zzzz734
      @zzzz734 Год назад

      @@TheStormSuspect nowadays osrs gp is worth nothing sadly

    • @PartlyXenon
      @PartlyXenon 11 месяцев назад +2

      Please tell me you were five premade or your username so I can report you? xD

  • @KyrosQuickfist
    @KyrosQuickfist 10 месяцев назад +6

    Things like this are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to why games, gamers and gaming are just not what they used to be.

  • @atomatopia1
    @atomatopia1 Год назад +495

    9:00 “How to trick your team into losing the game” is just such a brutal perspective for ranked matches I’ve never considered before.

    • @2ndintelligentWorld
      @2ndintelligentWorld Год назад +54

      yeah man this is why having a terrible player is so tilting. they're not just playing bad for themselves. it leads to so many bad situations for the team

    • @slatka_maco
      @slatka_maco Год назад +5

      @@2ndintelligentWorld yepp, it can be super frustrating and leads to simply giving up when you constantly play with people who either don't understand how to let themselves get carried or refuse to. Getting matched up w iron players in silver is peak. It's close to impossible at times...

    • @tyocruz4976
      @tyocruz4976 Год назад +2

      @@slatka_maco realtalk the most important lesson u need to learn as a beginner in lol is when to engage and when not. While this sounds complicated its more like dont feed if ur behind and let ur team do the work and to make it even simpler dont feed is just DONT GO IN IF HES CLEARLY STRONGER THAN U

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@tyocruz4976 The problem is, when you have people actively trying to lose, none of the basic LoL rules matter

    • @miso-ge1gz
      @miso-ge1gz 4 месяца назад +1

      it's fun sometimes. It really gets those tryhard russians going, they will swear in every way possible, and you can report them at the end, they get a ban and you won't because your losing was believable.

  • @sonemesis7083
    @sonemesis7083 2 года назад +837

    An amazing career path for me ❤️

    • @logansmith6342
      @logansmith6342 2 года назад +16

      Riot games is paving the way for our success my friend 🖤

    • @thanosv9177
      @thanosv9177 2 года назад +4

      ΗΗΑΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΑΗΗΑΑΗ

  • @fauzanrafli4474
    @fauzanrafli4474 10 месяцев назад

    The video itself is fascinating but jesus the gameplay clips you're showing is just brutal

  • @davidskep
    @davidskep Год назад +20

    as someone who mostly plays Aram games, tft and sometimes draft games, I really disliked ranked and when I play I, play very passively and I'm bad at farming minions most of the time but I'm not THAT bad and still got Iron somehow, didn't know it was that rare

  • @inglestopia
    @inglestopia 2 года назад +1667

    I was Iron 4 in my beginning playing League back in 2020, I'm Silver now but never knew it was such an achievement to be in that position.

    • @d3m0nsh1n3
      @d3m0nsh1n3 2 года назад +17

      so was i back in 2019 and i am also your rank last season

    • @ildisiri
      @ildisiri 2 года назад +46

      the reverse achievement 😂

    • @yoshihasascended
      @yoshihasascended 2 года назад +59

      dude didnt know he could make a couple of hundreds of dollars

    • @MP-ut6eb
      @MP-ut6eb 2 года назад +14

      I really wanted to play in iron this season XD ended up bronze 3.... I didn't knew being a dogsht still GIVES YOU BRONZE and not iron

    • @ildisiri
      @ildisiri 2 года назад +1

      @@MP-ut6eb You weren't dogshit enough xD Try to improve at being bad XD

  • @loreistdoof
    @loreistdoof 2 года назад +458

    It's like challenger but in reverse, the more people want to get iron 4 the more difficult it becomes to get because you would want to lose but you will play vs team that will also want to lose and it becomes the battle of who is the best at losing games

    • @DaGraveCrowder
      @DaGraveCrowder 2 года назад +72

      It's like the SouthPark episode where they try to lose at baseball

    • @Mana_Thief
      @Mana_Thief 2 года назад +1

      lmfaoooo

    • @cameronmarler6223
      @cameronmarler6223 2 года назад +14

      I wonder if people reverse wintrade at that elo

    • @iamthemanhuehueheu
      @iamthemanhuehueheu 2 года назад +2

      Holy shit thats crazy

    • @Nishinga.
      @Nishinga. 2 года назад +1

      @@DaGraveCrowder hahah yes! Great reference

  • @shadowreaperspectra319
    @shadowreaperspectra319 Год назад

    Amazing guide thx!

  • @zach6050
    @zach6050 Год назад

    this video is the most elaborate back-handed compliment I've ever received.

  • @wqweqwet1804
    @wqweqwet1804 2 года назад +592

    It’s crazy to think that had I stayed in iron 4 instead of climbing out of it I would have made money.

    • @LuckyGnom
      @LuckyGnom 2 года назад +3

      How did you even get there in the first place?

    • @wqweqwet1804
      @wqweqwet1804 2 года назад +123

      @@LuckyGnom shitty internet connection, and a shitty potato computer.

    • @mdrago2098
      @mdrago2098 2 года назад +33

      @@wqweqwet1804 stop the cap

    • @wqweqwet1804
      @wqweqwet1804 2 года назад +27

      @@mdrago2098 I shit you not.

    • @rolandasgrigaitis708
      @rolandasgrigaitis708 2 года назад +80

      @@wqweqwet1804 Seeing an Iron Iv player is as fascinating as a challenger player lmao. Everyone wants to do an interview with challenger and learn their techniques. Well you have something to brag about too just on opposite scale.

  • @SimonNZ6969
    @SimonNZ6969 2 года назад +161

    I remember playing on someone's Bronze 5 account. The classic "I can't get out of bronze cuz of bad teammates" type. Fuck, it was like a whole new world there. I saw some shit.

    • @treasuremage7546
      @treasuremage7546 2 года назад +34

      They're right in that the RNG is insane down there. But then it's also easy to just pick an assassin or a split machine like Yorick and win the game on your own.

    • @league1809
      @league1809 2 года назад +6

      i have an iron 2 account that i spent a lot of money on, i have some prestige skins and im relatively a decent player, i had some other accounts with silver rank but never above. But it's hard to get out of iron when every single game your bot dies 3 times before 5 minutes.

    • @lefroste6370
      @lefroste6370 2 года назад +8

      i stayed there for like 3 months because i just ran at the enemy team and had an average of 10 fps (5 or less in fights) ,then i climbed to silver 5 solely by picking twitch and running at them level 1 which was like a 90% first blood because apparently they didnt know what twitch's E was

    • @thatguy5233
      @thatguy5233 2 года назад +9

      @@league1809 sorry to say that but even then it's really easy if you are good enough. i was there because of huge internet problems and once i fixed it it was a breeze to gold IV. only then it started to get harder. iron people don't even feel real. i even called my brother to watch my games because it's just unbelieveable and it was such a good times actually (to be more precise, i was bronze IV before he even came from school, but it still was funny. he was really sad he couldn't watch real iron from what he saw in bronze+). the wierd thing is, the higher i was, the more toxic people were. i thought that people in iron are gonna be toxic asf but they were funny sometimes

    • @thatguy5233
      @thatguy5233 2 года назад

      my favourite moment is gotta be when i was playing yasuo (because i just can't play it and i'd feel bad if i tryharded vs them with my mains) and i was playing vs lucian mid (meta, back then) and he got really smoked along with his premade jungler but after the game he only wrote "you can thank your yasuo for carrying. i hope we can get a rematch someday". it was pretty cool.

  • @andyeccentric
    @andyeccentric 7 месяцев назад +3

    Alternative title: Future career prospects if your country's economy implodes

  • @beathrise629
    @beathrise629 Год назад

    That was sooo interesting!

  • @Vinicius-Bigode
    @Vinicius-Bigode 2 года назад +751

    My friends always bragged about being platinum+ or how good they are.
    I challenged the best player I know (GM rn) to hit bronze V, the lowest rank at the time. Fifty bucks he couldn't do it under a month, starting at lvl 30.
    He quit after one week laughing and claiming to be legitimately hard because people ran by some sort of unpredictable RNG algorithm and games lasting for so long, people with bad internet connection, clearly lost games turned into sudden wins at random, etc. I watched 3 games and laughed with him as they make no sense at all, especially the clunky jungle plays.
    Now that I remember that f*cker didn't pay me the bet >:(

    • @cal1tam
      @cal1tam 2 года назад +11

      HAHAHAH

    • @marlonyo
      @marlonyo 2 года назад +5

      Dude thhis is tempting me to play again those where fun because no matter how bad you where losing one non retarded engage from your team and you could easily get a penta and win the game.

    • @isaacturner197
      @isaacturner197 2 года назад +19

      That last part broke me, don't forget to get ya 50 bucks XD

    • @cruel5286
      @cruel5286 2 года назад +6

      this sounds like bullshit lol, literally just instantly leave every game. This will cause a remake and you will still lose lp/mmr and 9 out of 10 times they wont even report you for leaving lol.

    • @LimboTheory
      @LimboTheory 2 года назад +1

      I remember a plat player was saying iron is so easy to get out of, just roll your face across the keyboard. I'd like to see him do this

  • @Dunixify
    @Dunixify 2 года назад +163

    I knew it. I'm not dogshit, I am in fact masterfully skilled. You said it yourself, it takes real skill and control of the game to get an account to low iron. And looking at the percentile ranking, I'd say I'm on par with Diamond I or II, just applying a different set of skills.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 Год назад +5

      Its kind of like stock trading. Its just as difficult making consistently bad trades (if youre serious about it and not fooling around) as it is making good trades, since its a zero sum game. Someone wins and someone loses on every trade.
      So for you to be so consistently dog shit to be iron rank, all you have to do to get to Challenger is basically do everything the opposite you'd normally do. Good luck

  • @orangu
    @orangu 6 месяцев назад +7

    I was genuinely hardstuck Iron 4 for a while, every time i played, the queue was at least 6-7 minutes, and I always recognized at least 3-4 players
    I plat recently

  • @koritoo8941
    @koritoo8941 Год назад +1

    this video inspired me to troll in ranked
    thank you so much

  • @georgeund7533
    @georgeund7533 2 года назад +360

    “This is why it’s hard to get into Iron”
    - me and my duo friend everyday - “hold our beers” *13 losing streak in bronze unintentionally*

    • @rick30521
      @rick30521 2 года назад +1

      It's funny how I once helped a friend reach silver once and struggled more on silver 1 trying to rank up, than playing on gold 5, I play on LAN, and just like NA, everyone thinks they should carry the game (even with champs that are meant to support or enable someone else to do so). Also, people tryhard much more on the brink of reaching another rank than while being secure on one they deem decent enough.

    • @youneskasdi
      @youneskasdi 2 года назад +3

      My younger brother is iron2 without even trying

    • @stankobarabata2406
      @stankobarabata2406 2 года назад +9

      @@rick30521 Ironically, as a gold plat player before, I'm currently absolutely struggling to get out of silver1. Why? Every game I have a teammate going 10+ deaths in under 20 minutes. I know the meme of "yeah my team is the reason I can't climb", but this shit is just ridiculous. Had a vayne who was 4k hero damage in a 27 minute game. He didn't take a single turret too. But boy did he have the balls to flame and call everyone else boosted. And teammates that just don't listen to calls, and do shit engages and keep going alone in the jungle at minute 30. It becomes a coinflip of which team has more feeders and can throw the hardest. I get that I shouldn't expect much of silver players, but these people are TRYHARDING and feeding. I can't imagine trying that hard and still feeding.
      It's not even tense or close. Games are complete stomps on either side, win or lose. I'm probably the only anchored, middle ground player who neither feeds too much or gets ridiculously fed every game, a.k.a. a coinflip player in my region rn. League seems to be full of them nowadays.

    • @matthewschmidt7466
      @matthewschmidt7466 2 года назад

      @@stankobarabata2406 u would get out if u were gud

    • @stankobarabata2406
      @stankobarabata2406 2 года назад +1

      @@matthewschmidt7466 Kinda hard to when almost every game one of the enemies is 15 fucking kills by 20 minutes. Skill won't help against a fed person, even a braindead can beat faker 1v1 if Faker is like 3/0 and the scrublord is a 15 kill Katarina.

  • @jonahpeacock2561
    @jonahpeacock2561 2 года назад +310

    I had a friend who was hard stuck for years in iron but seemed to know a lot about the game it was suspicious until I found out he was actually blind

    • @anycolouryoulike9160
      @anycolouryoulike9160 2 года назад +28

      Interesting.
      There are some games blind people can actually get super good. I think mortal kombat or street fighter if I remember corretly.
      Def not the case for LoL. That shit makes me sad.

    • @anycolouryoulike9160
      @anycolouryoulike9160 2 года назад +17

      @@brynion2117 I think the dude is legally blind (has some sight) and his entire circle of friends play lol.

    • @chemicals8582
      @chemicals8582 2 года назад +48

      @@brynion2117 Probably because if he's blind, he can't read his teammates flaming him in chat

    • @yungkenwud6397
      @yungkenwud6397 2 года назад

      Wait are you friends with Lucky?

    • @kevindegering2908
      @kevindegering2908 2 года назад +2

      lee sin mains ~ probably

  • @martinsk8798
    @martinsk8798 Год назад +43

    You forgot to mention a little thing called "smurf queue"
    Since riot added smurf queue into the game, if you pubstomp 4 matches on a fresh 30 account, you instantly get flagged as a smurf and you get to play against other smurfs, also queue times go from 1 minute to like 10 for a freaking silver match. Its insane and beats the purpose of smurfing.

    • @martinsk8798
      @martinsk8798 Год назад +4

      If its a naturally created account, a couple years deep with shit MMR, you can pubstomp for like 30 games before the game even considers the fact that you are smurfing.

    • @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
      @dearickangelonej.legaspi6686 Год назад +12

      Dude Smurf/Toxic Queue makes leaving LoL so hard because you know when you leave it for a few months and try going back to it your gonna get Diamonds+ because you won so much against beginners

    • @psycojester
      @psycojester 8 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah, because Smurfing is shitty behaviour that shouldn't be rewarded. You're being punished because you're doing a bad thing.

    • @xMckey
      @xMckey 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@psycojester guy said "its insane and defeats the purpose" good???? lol tf

    • @happyzahn8031
      @happyzahn8031 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@psycojester I don't like playing against smurfs because it makes the game too one sided. They should stomp their own elos.

  • @noparley9256
    @noparley9256 Год назад

    very entertaining, thank you sir

  • @sime361
    @sime361 2 года назад +100

    My friend boosted a dude to bronze 2, a few days later he was legit in Iron 3. I don't understand how it's possible.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat 2 года назад +19

      'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' - Albert Einstein

    • @poorwhitepeoplearefailures2396
      @poorwhitepeoplearefailures2396 2 года назад +6

      ^. Yup. People who get that low are likely either physically or mentally handicapped. I am not even saying that to be mean

    • @gizel4376
      @gizel4376 2 года назад

      my friend is the 3rd highest mastery Garen in NA with around 5,2 milion mastery and he's stuck in Iron and i swear he's not doing it on purpose

    • @user-vo4lh9nc8m
      @user-vo4lh9nc8m 2 года назад

      i can make a iron iv account easy lol i dont understand why so much cost

  • @ellisdee1933
    @ellisdee1933 2 года назад +18

    Easiest way to throw games (works 99% of all games):
    Step 1: Queue Mid.
    Step 2: Ban your junglers champ.
    Step 3: Pick Syndra with TP and full MS+AH runes.
    Step 4: Follow your jungler the whole game and throw his jungle camps with your W (max w first). Throw them as far as possible to get them reset.
    Step 5: Your jungler either gets mad and leaves or gets mad and tries to outrun you.
    This method works to 99% gl hf

  • @mythicaluser6730
    @mythicaluser6730 Год назад +1

    I am a diamond player, made a new account in 2022 and can't get out of iron because of teams. If you solo queue even going 30-40 and 0 you can't carry out of bronze. Ranked is kind of pointless now atleast in lower tiers.

  • @mothgore
    @mothgore 6 месяцев назад

    I’ll see it as a motivation video

  • @user-vd3pw3xk5s
    @user-vd3pw3xk5s 2 года назад +120

    Instead of selling my Iron 4 account getting 500$ and quiting the game I just continued playing the game for 2.5years peaked Silver 2 and now dont hsve 500$.....
    Feels good
    I feel like crying

    • @0utopistis
      @0utopistis 2 года назад +1

      dont play ranked games usless 4fingers noob...go play aram and pac man

    • @user-vd3pw3xk5s
      @user-vd3pw3xk5s 2 года назад +56

      @@0utopistis thanks for the offer but I rather keep playing with your sister

    • @jbjunio
      @jbjunio 2 года назад +4

      💀💀💀

    • @Bobby-wq8bn
      @Bobby-wq8bn 2 года назад +1

      @@0utopistis wow a salty nerd :D

    • @nickolayvlachkov7781
      @nickolayvlachkov7781 2 года назад

      No1 will buy an iron acc for 500 they go for 30-40eur

  • @max-bc5uo
    @max-bc5uo 2 года назад +194

    I recently got back into league after a 3-4 year break. Been playing on my brother's account who hovers around iron-bronze. The people I encountered in iron were so bad I assumed they are bots. I only played 4 games and thought it would be funny to play upside down. Went 30-35 every game

    • @mistalod
      @mistalod Год назад

      It’s cuz everybody down there are bots.

    • @cumran8359
      @cumran8359 Год назад +1

      what do u mean upside down?

    • @max-bc5uo
      @max-bc5uo Год назад +55

      @@cumran8359 I went into windows settings and made everything appears upside down

    • @groyperfuhr4871
      @groyperfuhr4871 Год назад +4

      next time you could try swapping around your buttons as well, use poiu instead of qwer that way you have to press in reverse order too

    • @growingfluent
      @growingfluent Год назад +15

      @@max-bc5uo what if you tape your computer to the ceiling? That’s the real upside-down challenge right there

  • @Bizza12345
    @Bizza12345 Год назад

    thanks for the guide

  • @htspencer9084
    @htspencer9084 Год назад

    I swear there is something more going on than just win/loss for determining initial placement.
    I've seen people get placed bronze for far worse win rates (including normal) than those in iron.

  • @Avatarbee
    @Avatarbee 2 года назад +94

    "Today we will discuss why it is so hard to get into iron."
    Me stuck in iron:"... what?"

    • @emprahsfinest7092
      @emprahsfinest7092 2 года назад +6

      same i got to promos like twice already im probably gonna get back to bronze this month but it's such a nightmare

    • @eerfmod
      @eerfmod 2 года назад

      @@emprahsfinest7092 Watch more videos on the role/champion you want to play, wave management, and macro. Learn how to exploit the mistakes those in Iron are making, that is how I finally got out of Iron/Bronze. Still working on getting to gold but feels good to have made it to silver.

    • @texTical54
      @texTical54 2 года назад

      what was the site to sell Iron accounts again?

  • @StevenAcunaBG05
    @StevenAcunaBG05 2 года назад +68

    I've made this journey to the deepest side of ELO hell. I quickly found out how difficult it is to lose a game at that level.

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen 2 года назад +8

      If there's another deep delver in the game, there's a 5/9 chance he's on the other team, losing just as hard as you.

    • @Obelion_
      @Obelion_ 2 года назад +3

      yeah i think we all tried anti boosting an account before, but you really hit a hard cap at maybe iron 1 where you literally have to compete with not only other "anti boosters" but constant inters and leavers where its really hard to make a negative enough impact

    • @thoticcusprime9309
      @thoticcusprime9309 2 года назад

      @@Obelion_ No I didnt try. since i dont care lmao. iron doesnt exist to me

  • @jest2933
    @jest2933 Месяц назад +2

    It’s “hard to get into iron” yea where do I sell my account

  • @spimm3x
    @spimm3x 5 месяцев назад

    Watching this i actually considered creating a couple of accounts since im in high neednof cash for christmas presents

  • @SeudXe
    @SeudXe 2 года назад +365

    Imagine every rank had their own map. In challenger the map would be heaven theme then in Iron its like Zaun from Arcane.

    • @ivailoivanov01
      @ivailoivanov01 2 года назад +45

      Challenger would be shurima, Grandmaster would be noxus etc.

    • @abdikeur6393
      @abdikeur6393 2 года назад +8

      every rank icon does represent a region

    • @jedd7624
      @jedd7624 2 года назад +31

      @@abdikeur6393 the icon now is dogshit

    • @wurmtron
      @wurmtron 2 года назад +22

      thats actually a good idea

    • @Bry_Ventures
      @Bry_Ventures 2 года назад +12

      @@ivailoivanov01 Challenger is actually Demacia, Shurima is Gold where I'm from : D

  • @SuperSaiyaman3
    @SuperSaiyaman3 2 года назад +32

    12:53 lmfao the buildup for the roast was too good

  • @waibanish
    @waibanish Год назад

    "pinpoint dogshit" that one hurt😢😢

  • @svl8389
    @svl8389 Год назад

    from statistical point of view, getting either extreme end of the elo spectrum would be difficult since only few people managed to achieve that.

  • @henryalpaca1536
    @henryalpaca1536 2 года назад +62

    Wow, anyone else didn't know they were professional elo de-boosters?

  • @SilencePandaa
    @SilencePandaa 2 года назад +67

    I have a friend who is unironically iron 4 and the thing is that he's on the last page of the OCE ladderboard (last time I checked he was 2nd last). I don't understand how these people exist HAHAHAH

    • @savage_serpent1383
      @savage_serpent1383 2 года назад +4

      Literally just means he doesn’t want to learn and thinks the way he plays the game is the right way

    • @SilencePandaa
      @SilencePandaa 2 года назад +40

      @@savage_serpent1383 doesn't even take much to even be bronze 4. He plays like heaps of games but he would always be the lowest rank no matter how hard he tries. He was silver 1 in CSGO, iron 4 in Valorant, Copper in R6S. He was genuinely a shit gamer. I thought I would never see one myself, but he was a prodigy at being shit at every game he touched. He has over 1k hours on league and CSGO/Valorant and he watches videos on how to improve but he never improves.

    • @oasise2364
      @oasise2364 2 года назад +11

      Thats actually sad

    • @wildevelynnappeared
      @wildevelynnappeared 2 года назад +19

      @@SilencePandaa My theory is: these people that play thousand of games and are still bad, they have huge problems outside of the game, like, irl y'know

    • @BigMuskachini
      @BigMuskachini 2 года назад +6

      @@SilencePandaa dudes iq is probably sub 90

  • @shenwoo666hellbrawl
    @shenwoo666hellbrawl Год назад +1

    I now have to live with the dreadful thought that from now on, whenever I get into game, there may be an elo debooster actively trying to "fix" the game.
    I legit got hit at an existential level lol

  • @SilentPrayerCG
    @SilentPrayerCG Год назад

    Now i know why people so eager to report someone if he just lost his lane..

  • @Magyar_Huszar
    @Magyar_Huszar 2 года назад +237

    There is a big misconception in this video which is that reports always do something.
    The only thing a report does is trigger the automated system to check the game.
    This means that unless you do something that can be seen by the automated system a report is useless.
    As an example the way i usually derank is by going triple bot and not going jungle or duo mid and abandoning top or something similar.
    I've been doing this since S5 on the same account using about the same method.
    This is because riot does not want to accidentally punish players that are new and trying unconventional tactics (eg duo top or something)
    The things that are currently dangerous to do as a deranker is:
    dying more than 3 times under tower in the first 14 mins.
    flaming in any way that can be seen by the automated system.
    Not doing champion damage for 10 mins in a game.
    Bassically anything else flies going smite mid nunu 0/17/3 is ok to the automated system as long as you don't cross the previously mentioned "rules".

    • @brave1
      @brave1 2 года назад +12

      yeah, you do not need to give a shit about winning games at all, the only way to get banned is if you get ticketed and it's incredibly obvious that you're griefing, there's an account on na called oppai hero, just go look at it

    • @Jawbrah93
      @Jawbrah93 2 года назад +1

      Miert intelsz, trollkodsz s5 ota? Nem ertem miert jo!

    • @rayesafan9628
      @rayesafan9628 2 года назад +2

      Good to know! Not that I’m a de ranker, I’m just actually that bad, and I’m afraid of getting banned for playing bad

    • @mondrometal
      @mondrometal 2 года назад +4

      You got me curious.. why are you de ranking the same account?

    • @Magyar_Huszar
      @Magyar_Huszar 2 года назад +12

      @@mondrometal cuz first of all I have no life and second of all deranking to me is more enjoyable then being stuck at my ranked peak

  • @brawltrailmonX
    @brawltrailmonX 2 года назад +75

    i wish you would've interviewed me for this i used to be the biggest b5 acc seller in euw in seasons 5-7

    • @IIIIIIIIIllllllllIIlIlI
      @IIIIIIIIIllllllllIIlIlI 2 года назад

      We need to talk then :)

    • @brawltrailmonX
      @brawltrailmonX 2 года назад

      @@IIIIIIIIIllllllllIIlIlI I'm haven't been active in years I don't think there's much i can help you with

    • @brawltrailmonX
      @brawltrailmonX 2 года назад

      @Zinboo multiple ones i would supply most sites that sold them. my main customer used to be aussyelo no idea if they are still in business

    • @brawltrailmonX
      @brawltrailmonX 2 года назад +1

      i also used to sell to streamers and content creators directly

    • @skya6863
      @skya6863 2 года назад

      @@brawltrailmonX how many accs you'd sell during a year?

  • @OneOfTheLoveless
    @OneOfTheLoveless Год назад

    This reminds me of the 42-0 challenge in wow pvp, but there at least they have the courtesy of dropping their own mmr.

  • @janedoe8901
    @janedoe8901 Год назад

    That last line killed me lol

  • @highflame4984
    @highflame4984 2 года назад +81

    Wow, before iron was added, I actually managed to get on the lowest elo of my server, I wish I knew about this then

    • @Mhmmz
      @Mhmmz 2 года назад

      Could’ve profited off ya pain 😂😂😂😂

  • @howardholy
    @howardholy 2 года назад +48

    Most people: "One day, i'm going to hit challenger"
    Me: "One day i'm going to hit iron"

    • @themuffinbg516
      @themuffinbg516 2 года назад

      Me: "One day i'm going to hit iron II

  • @zzzyyyrrraaa
    @zzzyyyrrraaa 9 месяцев назад

    im ready to see the price drop massivly after this vid

  • @mehtevas7818
    @mehtevas7818 Год назад

    this video inspired me to try getting into iron again
    thank you

  • @cattysplat
    @cattysplat 2 года назад +164

    The other point is people who enjoy stomping noobs and like to smurf full time, actually have competition and challenge in almost every other rank. Smurfs are literally everywhere, however they are much less likely to be in Iron, simple because of how few there are, and how hard it is to get into Iron, it truly is a special club of it's own that keeps most players out, so being able to invade it and destroy everyone is like the ultimate smurf's dream of an ego boost.

    • @abdusselamzahma7474
      @abdusselamzahma7474 2 года назад +8

      Most ""smurfs"" are silver/gold players so that could be true, but a real smurf would already stomp gold games

    • @justiceisanillusion5602
      @justiceisanillusion5602 2 года назад +6

      @@abdusselamzahma7474 Yea, any d1+ can stomp any elo all the way up to d4 easy with 15/3 scores in most games.

    • @user-nu8vw1ow4n
      @user-nu8vw1ow4n 2 года назад

      They are too good to be Iron as Thiere Brain cant Trick Themself to do it

    • @gimmeasekkond7525
      @gimmeasekkond7525 2 года назад +2

      @@abdusselamzahma7474 ye gold games r no diff than silver.

    • @jacobesterson
      @jacobesterson 2 года назад +1

      @@abdusselamzahma7474 With league you can easily be called a smurf if you found silver too hard and decided to make a new account to have a bit of a power trip. It's not like with actual high elo players sure, but people who are *actually* Iron 5 stand no chance in hell against even silvers, let alone diamond 5 through 1 and above. Hell a bronze player who has a really aggressive playstyle and dies to ganks all the time because they have zero map awareness would still probably trash an Iron 5 match. *Most* smurfs are likely silver and below players who are mad they can't climb, it's one of the reasons genuine new players find the game rough pre level 30 because half of the pre ranked players are smurf accounts and even bronze players beat new players.

  • @tyszq
    @tyszq 2 года назад +138

    Back in the days when I was a booster, there was a time when our service hired too many booster, and it was really hard to grab an order. So instead I bought a bronze 4 account to play on it when there was no actual clients to boost. I simply made it to diamond and sold for ~100 USD. Managed to do a 74 games winstreak.
    Still, ranking up and selling accounts doesn't make sense, as you can make literally 10x more on boosting with same amount of games. Same for de-ranking, but it might be an idea if you're too shit to get a booster position.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat 2 года назад +3

      Yeah most people are too attached to their personal accounts and just want boosting. The people who smurf do it with the intention that the accounts are disposable and they do not care if they get banned or troll hard.

    • @tyszq
      @tyszq 2 года назад +17

      @@cattysplat It's not necessairly attachement to the account. The main reason people buy boosting (from my 3+ years boosting experience) is for social status and bragging to friends about their rank. If you randomly show up with another diamond account while being in gold for last 3 years, nobody will believe you actually reached that rank, but bought the account instead. If you have a 2 days winstreak on your main account, people are more eiger to believe you actually did this, and will likely be impressed. I'd say 95% of clients don't disclose to their friends about boosting and pretend they did it alone. Same for youtubers etc., that buy boosting for similar reason, so they have higher status in eyes of their followers.
      For example, one of the biggest youtubers in Poland was our client and spent thousands on boosting. Literally nobody knows about it but very limited number of people from boosting community.

    • @Fishbro
      @Fishbro 2 года назад +1

      @@tyszq How tf do you boost reliably though?
      It takes me nearly 500 games on average to reach platinum and well over 1k to hit diamond, and being a jungle main I tend to get permabanned by 300-400. If I go as a top laner I get it done within 800 games taking 2x as many due to less impact, but I never get banned.
      How is it even possible to get a 74 winstreak with league's match making? Don't you get some unwinnable games where your top dies lvl 1, teleports back and dies lvl 1 again, dies behind his turret still lvl 1 and the enemy top has 3 plates, 4 kills, first tower, and is invading your topside jg and you're moving onto your krugs to begin your second clear.
      I main Trynd/Nasus so is it an agency issue or mechanic issue? I know carnarious reliably hits high elo as a nasus 1-trick so I don't think it's that.

    • @tyszq
      @tyszq 2 года назад

      @@Fishbro Firstly, boosting is usually done duo. In low elo, its nearly impossible to lose duo boosting. Even if your team is totally garbage, you can win the whole game with your 3 teammates having 0 kills.
      Id say 99% of loses in low elo are if you just match against smurfs or other boosters (that way you can get smashed on lane yourself, not to mention your silver teammates)
      Another fun fact is that in low elo, booster don't even focus that much on winning (because your chances to win are 94% anyway) but rather on winning as fast as you can, so you can play more games and make more money /hour.
      When it comes to higher elo (gold+), you can naturally lose more often.
      But in general regards to your comment, play better. Idk what else can I say lol.
      Focus on improving your skill and knowledge about the game rather than playing as much games as you can with low winrate.
      Simply the fact that you look at number of your games in terms of reaching certain rank, means that you have a wrong mindset.

    • @higorss
      @higorss 2 года назад

      @@tyszq Sorry but how much $ did you make per month doing this?

  • @Tech--No
    @Tech--No Год назад +1

    It's hard to get into Iron but once you're there it's even harder to get out

  • @pokeyclap7
    @pokeyclap7 6 месяцев назад

    Wow this really boosts my ego, I am so bad that it double backed to being good. It is so hard to be as bad as I am that it is an art.

  • @Wonderingax
    @Wonderingax 2 года назад +16

    Been waiting for it after the short, I dont even play league but you Mr Dongy are just that entretaining

  • @PartyMain
    @PartyMain 2 года назад +32

    After watching this video, I'm convinced that atleast half of my teammate's are trying to sell their accounts

  • @visualbinder
    @visualbinder Год назад +1

    bro I do this unintentionally

  • @NatsuDragn33I
    @NatsuDragn33I 3 месяца назад

    "pinpoint dogshit" is such a brilliant term that I almost wheezed

  • @Darque2391
    @Darque2391 2 года назад +15

    Imma use this excuse whenever I go on a 10 game lose streak now.

  • @Rattolord
    @Rattolord 2 года назад +143

    I've gotten to iron 4 0lp 3 times now, and it's so hard. especially the first time took me so long, until I figured out the strat. What I found to work nicely is getting a good lead early, but only good enough to where you can kill any champ, and not make your lane opponent useless. Then you have to give your shutdown to whoever looks like a promising carry on the enemy team (lux, adc, hypercarries etc), but never get so behind that you can't kill everyone, cause you'll need to be collecting the enemy team's shutdowns and steal kills to keep your team behind.
    Also, with this strat you will 100% go jungle or mid. Champs for this strat will wanna have low range, good 1v1's and mobility. My personal tryhard favourites were Graves, Shaco and Kayn (yes, even mid, it doesn't fucking matter, trust me). You always kill whoever you want, get to big waves fast, and you can int without it looking too sus. My fav for-fun picks are on-hit Neeko, on-hit Lulu, cocaine Nunu. These requires you to never fall behind tho, cause else you'll be useless, and your team might get back in the game,
    I'm not joking, if you think that your 2 leavers on your team will for sure make you lose the game, then don't, cause these people are experts at throwing leads, and not finishing games. I would recommend everyone to go on an iron 4 journey to experience the atrocities that goes on the deepest depths of elo hell. You'll be surprised at how hard it is to even get past iron 2, and how much strategy goes into not tilting the enemy, and knowing that at any point you could have gotten a penta, but you just collected a shutdown and accidentaly flashed into the Thresh's hook pointed at the wrong reality and baited your team. whoops.

    • @shieldgenerator7
      @shieldgenerator7 2 года назад +17

      its crazy to think that theres this much strategy involved in intentionally losing

    • @Rattolord
      @Rattolord 2 года назад +15

      @@shieldgenerator7 some of the things I've seen can only be witnessed, you wouldn't believe it otherwise

    • @Paradoxof0
      @Paradoxof0 2 года назад +21

      I have also successfully gotten an account to iron 4 0lp. I've only done it once, and it took me about 30 games before I figured out my personal optimal strategy. I ended up with the same general idea: stay fed enough to get enemy shutdowns and always give your shutdowns to enemy's best player.
      However, I did not do solo lanes or jungle. I played as sivir adc (tbf I'm a Draven one trick so it's the lane I know best). I figured that the best strategy is not only to aid your enemies, but to sabotage your allies. You run around the map taking as much farm and xp as possible away from your team, which is easiest to do on sivir. You can also very effectively shut your support out of xp by manipulating the waves so that you clear the waves when your support isn't in the lane (iron players don't know back timings, take advantage of that). My supports would constantly be 3+ levels behind me.
      Unfortunately, the hand leveled account started bronze 4, so it took 30 games before the mmr dropped enough for it to demote to iron (this was season 10, so there was a much larger demotion protection than currently). My final sivir tally when I hit Iron 4 0lp was 8W 49L for a 14% winrate. And my overall winrate at that point was 13W 72L for a 15% winrate.
      I agree that the experience was something to behold. I had tried years ago to get Bronze V and failed, stopping at Bronze 3. This was a personal challenge to see if I could do it (without getting banned). There would be times where I knew I had the game lost and so I could pull out my actual diamond mechanics and make some sick outplays only to then stop right before killing them or just making sure I also die at the end. Most memorable stuff would be a 3v5 (so effectively 2v6) game that our team won, some really laid back for fun players, the time I got a kill as ashe by just right clicking the enemy adc once and literally taking my hands off my keyboard and mouse, and the supports that I added telling them I would duo a couple games with them on another account to make up for the loss (which a couple took me up on).
      By far the hardest aspects for me were: the tedious, slow descent that feels like forever, and the discipline to hold back, to not make the outplays that you know you can make.
      Best ways to overcome these: play in smaller sessions, just 2-3 games at a time. And try to create minigames of making the coolest fail outplays you can make. Like you said, flash into that thresh hook that was literally aimed 6 teemos away from you. whoops indeed.

    • @Paradoxof0
      @Paradoxof0 2 года назад +2

      Afterwards, I started the winstreak grind. Hitting 48 wins in a row (all on Draven) before finally losing on the 49th with double afks. I then capped that off with a 32 game win streak before finally losing the 33rd game (83rd overall) at gold 4 mmr. So over an 82 game span, 81W and 1L (99% winrate) with mmr ranging from iron 2 to gold 4 (average rank of players in my iron 4 games was actually iron 2, because there's just so few players below that and I didn't continue to tank mmr after hitting rock bottom). It was statistically easier to win than to lose by a significant margin.
      82 games at 99% success when trying to win.
      85 games at 85% success when trying to lose.

    • @Rattolord
      @Rattolord 2 года назад +7

      @@Paradoxof0 ye, some games are actually just impossible to lose, the throws are just so random. 22-65 with you holding 15 kills? enemy loses a 2v5 tower dive, and your team suddenly realises baron is cool and just runs it down and ends the game, while you were afk farming jungle, pinging your team back or something lol. winstreaking is significantly easier, cause you can usually win 1v5 since everyone tries to stop your lead instead of making leads of their own, but being so far ahead, and their uncoordination you just get to pick them apart piece by piece.
      Also, I realised by being in bot or top I couldn't really stop my team from stomping bot/top from 4 min, hence why I found mid and jung to be the best roles, getting to a lane and stealing the kill if they were on a suicide mission, or ganking and accidentally dying cause I "missclick" tower.
      I also found it super funny how I was never blamed, since I had 300 farm and 20+ kills, obviously I wasn't the reason we lost the game. It was for sure my teams fault I died in a 1v4 and gave 1000g to Jinx 3 times, right? :^)

  • @EB-tr2ly
    @EB-tr2ly 4 месяца назад

    The first ranked always put me in iron 3, even if I had reach good and platinum, it always send me back to iron 3 when the season starts

  • @FrAudkunA4201
    @FrAudkunA4201 5 месяцев назад

    These clips in the background are killing me

  • @Kotka595
    @Kotka595 2 года назад +112

    Report system hardly can detect deranking if you make it look like you have just a bad game. Running it down mid gets banned by automated system but obvious trolling like cancelling tp with trundle e gets banned only through ticket reports but Riot support will look smart deranker just being a bad player and not banning him.

    • @tennebroussalley5678
      @tennebroussalley5678 2 года назад +2

      U gonna sell ur iron 4 account?

    • @Kotka595
      @Kotka595 2 года назад +5

      @@tennebroussalley5678 nah Im just gonna continue trolling until its perma banned lol

    • @shai310
      @shai310 2 года назад +1

      Yep true, I think looking as a bad player while you know how exactly to lose is kinda impressive on its own. Looking for an optimal way to lose to derank your account does require a lot of game knowledge as well.

    • @SwissFech
      @SwissFech 2 года назад +5

      Its easy, try to steal as much ressources as possible and dont use it ingame dont be at objectives dont help push or drake or nash try to killsteal and feed the best enemy laner if enemy dies give him a free kill

    • @dddmemaybe
      @dddmemaybe 2 года назад

      @@SwissFech Damn that's good. The shutdown system really does make it easy. Play a killsteal champ like Mobi-boots E-max Shaco mid with smite and hoard levels/gold for "last-hitting" and then "re-distribute wealth". So fucking funny ngl. I'd do it but I don't wanna do it on my main account nor buy any accounts so fuck it tbh.

  • @coducoke4548
    @coducoke4548 2 года назад +41

    "even if you do well in jungle you will still get reported" to do the worst possible you "want to play solo lanes" as a jungle main I can confirm.

    • @rustygear447
      @rustygear447 2 года назад +8

      As a jungle main, this is fact.

    • @DarkChaos1986
      @DarkChaos1986 2 года назад +4

      I played a 17/3/12 game as a Vi jungler a week ago, we lose because every other teammember was dogshit and the top laner was solely dedicate to feed the enemy team. Received a chat restriction because apparently my entire team reported me.

    • @bobbarker399
      @bobbarker399 2 года назад

      @@DarkChaos1986 yes okay but I guess you wrote some shit in chat and with the help of reports you got the restriction. Pretty sure you can't get restricted if you don't type anything related to insults or toxicity, not sure tho

    • @DarkChaos1986
      @DarkChaos1986 2 года назад +2

      @@bobbarker399 if you are trying to win a game that your team is actively throwing away, I'd like you to contemplate how many times you can observe that story completely stoic? Of course that I flamed that top laner for inting, but being the only player trying to win this game should not be taken into account? I died less, killed more and defended more than anyone in that sad joke of a game.
      And just because they are probably playing in team, they can get away with inting and throwing games?

    • @bobbarker399
      @bobbarker399 2 года назад

      @@DarkChaos1986 Yes, I know it’s shit and unfair af... But I just wanted to know if you actually didn’t type anything reportable…so yeah thanks for your answer and gl in future games

  • @Racist-Luna
    @Racist-Luna 7 месяцев назад +1

    I created an iron account but I was stuck at iron 3. My strategy was to play top and kill jungle monsters so the jungler didn't get any xp.

  • @truckywuckyuwu
    @truckywuckyuwu 8 месяцев назад +1

    Intentionally throwing games in League is super hard without straight feeding, and even when you do.. The enemy team might be just bad enough to get caught.
    I've tried on accounts to feed my ass off to get a lower rank, and my team was still winning games. You have to be a super special kind of bad player to be in iron, because even when people try.. you can't end up there.

  • @LukeyChung_OG
    @LukeyChung_OG 2 года назад +50

    As someone who is hard stuck iron I'm shock you can sell an iron account for that much

    • @arcanefrg9747
      @arcanefrg9747 2 года назад +1

      same bro

    • @Eddy-dk6ug
      @Eddy-dk6ug 2 года назад +15

      i hope you know iron almost entirely composed of people with learning disabilities lol

    • @LukeyChung_OG
      @LukeyChung_OG 2 года назад +1

      @@arcanefrg9747 u too pain hope you get of iron elo

    • @LukeyChung_OG
      @LukeyChung_OG 2 года назад +2

      @@Eddy-dk6ug well I guess your right

    • @pixeldimond
      @pixeldimond 2 года назад +2

      YOU'RE A LEGEND

  • @mrbuckets2310
    @mrbuckets2310 2 года назад +45

    Yes please encourage these people to throw games. Love to see it.

  • @NarutoUzomaki65
    @NarutoUzomaki65 Год назад

    Nice vid

  • @criss3656
    @criss3656 11 месяцев назад

    Me who only played normal games very infrequently and got placed into Iron II last week

  • @shaneoblack1672
    @shaneoblack1672 2 года назад +22

    I've always wondered how people get into Iron, not the ones intentionally losing games but those with so low skill that they end up there. I'm sure if you get used to bot games you'd be placed in Bronze. My friend who didn't use a keyboard got to Silver (yes that means he clicked everything), anything below that is a mystery to me.

    • @andrzejtutaj2226
      @andrzejtutaj2226 2 года назад +1

      Did he not use the keyboard because he couldn't, or because he chose not to?

    • @shaneoblack1672
      @shaneoblack1672 2 года назад +3

      @@andrzejtutaj2226 He chose not to. He was used to playing strategy games without any hotkeys, so he played like that for about 2 seasons. I told him to play with hotkeys, now he plays a lot better, but yeah if a clicker can get to Silver elo I don't know how people can be lower than that. We also play from South Africa on EUW so we have to play on like 200 ping.

    • @shaneoblack1672
      @shaneoblack1672 2 года назад +1

      @Triple 9 Anyone can get Mastery 7 on a character if they play it enough, I'm sure he isn't going 0/10 in all of his games. But if he's in Iron he's lacking basic fundamentals on how to play the game.

    • @pixeldimond
      @pixeldimond 2 года назад

      What the actual f lol

    • @lucaskp16
      @lucaskp16 2 года назад +3

      My friends dad is a genuine iron 4. He mains garen mid and volibear support... he has like 2 m mastery on garen yet still manages to lose every lane

  • @deciphree9192
    @deciphree9192 2 года назад +15

    if you watch a single iron match, youll understand why riot never bans the 0/10 yasuo in your team

  • @DiegoeldeFinanzas
    @DiegoeldeFinanzas 8 месяцев назад

    Love the parody of Insider Business "So expensive" :)

  • @MadOliveGaming
    @MadOliveGaming 9 месяцев назад

    this video just reminds me im terrible enough to be stuck in iron, but just about good enough not to be in iron 4 basically making me both crap at the game and making my effort worthless. Thank you

  • @FNCMontragor
    @FNCMontragor 2 года назад +13

    Of course the one who knows how to lose has a French accent xD

  • @DongHuaPan
    @DongHuaPan  2 года назад +106

    Hope everyone had a great holiday! I'll be doing more videos on the black market scene, I'll be talking to a Professional Elo LOSER and showing you guys how he's able to make a living deranking accounts.
    And no, this is NOT an easy career path lol.

    • @folkenberger
      @folkenberger 2 года назад

      I usually pay a lot of epople to demote my accs to keep using them as much as i can (to boost and duo boost), but ive never been able to get someone to demote an account to iron, its simply way to expensive to get someone that is tryharding to lose

    • @seiori
      @seiori 2 года назад +1

      @@folkenberger Have my own personal account I got to iron. You can go through the hassle of losing. Or you can just take advantage of placements. Decided to climb on it now and I get +13 LP for a win. Best way to make one is to just play like 10 games and lose them for your placements. And then just wait till next season. This is at least how you mass produce them. You can spend the time losing, but it takes forever on a fresh account as your MMR needs to sort of settle down. We lost 16 games in a row and still didn't lose any LP. So we just left the account, came back next year and started placements in Iron 4. Then it's just a case of manipulating the MMR or leaving it as it is

    • @BartZeroSix
      @BartZeroSix 2 года назад +1

      I have to put a thumbs down on this video, because of all the bullshit bait around the prices of those iron accounts. Truth is, an iron 4 account is worth $100-200, not "up to $500" like you said multiple times.

    • @screamtheguy6425
      @screamtheguy6425 2 года назад

      DongHuap I've been a viewer for 7 years. My brain is boosted with dopamine when you upload videos!

    • @Sony-ny3xx
      @Sony-ny3xx 2 года назад +1

      what are you guys saying you gotta try hard to get iron 4?
      i just got it naturally, without trying at all. IMAGINE where i could be if i tried harder.
      i guess im just built different. keep trying to match my rank, but you'll never get to my level.

  • @ThiccPaper
    @ThiccPaper 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the guide, now I can profesionally int

  • @danjack24
    @danjack24 5 месяцев назад

    Where was this video a couple of months ago? My friend and I got placed in Iron 2 after our placements when we got back from a 4-year break. But to your point, it is so easy to climb now. It took me around 100 games to go from there to Silver 2 playing support primary and adc secondary and I feel like I have a lot more room to climb. It's shocking to me because I don't even feel much better from when I was stuck in bronze-silver in 2015-2019.