WHY BOXING IS BETTER THAN MARTIAL ARTS! (BJJ/JUDO ETC)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
-  Full disclosure, I have practiced in many different styles of martial arts, and this is just my personal first-hand experience but many people proclaim martial arts to be superior in a self-defense situations especially for beginners. I tend to disagree. Here’s my take. 
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Footwork in boxing is greatly underrated when it comes to self defense. Being light on your feet and having the option to engage or disengage is very important. In grappling sports, you are forced to commit and that's when things can go very wrong.
Agreed
💯🥊 how long of training in boxing to win in a street fight?
@@truthhurts6327 30 minutes should be plenty
those who know both >>>>
As a dude that grew up fighting on the streets and doing time I tell dudes all the time the last place you wanna be is on the ground in a REAL fight. A competition is a real fight but it’s controlled with rules so it makes sense to take someone down. On the street you wanna be on your feet and be able to get away if you need to run not be on the ground waiting to be stomped by other dudes. Seen it too many times. Learn to box it will keep you alive and you’ll win more than 9 out of 10 fights in the streets
I have trained BJJ for around 5 years and still do. I took Muay Thai for about a year and 1/2 to get a decent striking base. Most BJJ guys underestimate and undervalue how effective striking is. Grappling is great to know but being able to piece somebody up is equally if not more important.
Well said, gotta balance the yin & yang!!
BJJ is meant to be paired with striking but the strikes were taken out for tournaments. Judo also used to do more ground work but has taken a lot out for tournaments. When it was an actual form of combat for war, you'd use throws and locks to expose people to strikes.
It’s always nice to be able to dictate where the fights going to take place. I’ve always grappled. Just started boxing and I’m obsessed with it now. I’m adding in some Muay Thai soon. I’m dressing it. Took a nasty shin to my thigh and that will change the way you look at life. lol.
@JacksonTaylorandTheSinners Having your leg shut down after a clean round kick to the upper thigh is an eye-opening experience to be sure lol
@@LibertarianGaltfacts
Boxing is underrated
Bigtime 💯💯
Facts
Boxing got the best hands 💯💯
Boxing is overrated for street fights on its own. Better to pair with Judo and become a more well rounded fighter.
@@LibertarianGaltboxing is the best put you to sleep quick facts
I have been training karate for nearly 25 years. And now I do boxing 1 to 2 times a week besides karate.
Boxing for me is another game that really gives you the taste of reality and you don't get that in lots of martial arts.
It's great for footwork, conditioning and reflexes.
I agree also the sparring in boxing is much more realistic than in karate.
Man I am martial arts instructor.
Iv been training in one way or another for close to 20 years.
I honestly tell people the same thing.
I think boxing and wrestling are the best things people can do if they want to actually be able to handle themselves in a fight simply because of the way they train and the mindsets of the competitions.
I incorporate both in our fighting system quite a bit simply because of how effective they are in the street.
And most of the street fights I've been in it's been a pretty awful idea to be on the ground for to long lol
That's what Andrew Tate said
Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different
@@markdaniels4178 "Boxing and judo is all you need in a fight but self defense is different" - That's right, keep everything easy. :) Two sciences, study and practice them both to the fullest! A knock out artist, a body slam artist, and a choke out artist!
Boxing and wrestling is good but I reckon boxing and judo better
@@tylerdurden4289 I dont think judo works if the opponent is not wearing some large jacket like a tshirt or maybe shirtless, because judokas only train with gi.
I completely agree. I've trained in many martial arts over 20 years, but Boxing takes the cake for street defense and conditioning.
In a self-defense situation, you want to be competent in striking and grappling, and having a good 40-yard dash is super important as well!
Boxing is hard and pain is guaranteed! So is life... I keep coming back to the gym, even when I keep feeling awkward and defenseless against any mediocre skilled boxer... But I keep coming back.
Me the same thing :)
Me too
I love boxing met a guy from japan who noticed how good I was at jump rope come to find out he has been boxing over 20 years has been teaching me soo much my stamina is growing soo much it’s insane I love it and I feel soo much more confident if someone attacks me just to avoid the attacks rowing slipping evading just with body sways blocking parrying it’s soo fun at the same time even when sparring I bought my coach and I some head gear we spar lightly it’s about learning not going all out until I have a match even when I get tagged up I learn soo much how to read my opponent my reaction speed I highly recommend boxing 🥊
learn to kick the knees and shins as you cover up with your forearms. Stand sideways, in an "L" stand, knees bend, rear knee pointing to your rear, almost no weight on your front leg. Glide or skip when you move. Try to never cross your legs. Use stop kicks with the inside edge of your foot, front kicks with the ball of the rear foot and side kicks with the cutting edge of the outside of your lead foot. Once you bust up his leg, he'll be on the ground and then you can literally kick his head in. Avoid kicks with the shin or the top of your foot, other than to his nuts, cause you'll probably just hurt your foot and kicking with the shin lets the opponent get too close to you.
I used to be a boxer and let me tell you it pushes you to the limits unlike anything you've ever seen the desire the pain the hunger the struggle breaking you down building you back up pushing your body to the distance doing things that you never thought was possible before and when it's all said and done you feel so happy because you did something that you thought was impossible that's why I love boxing to this day and still do it❤❤
I agree with everything said. I'm from Kazakhstan and have been doing boxing since school. Later I transitioned into judo and bjj. In real life scenario boxing helped me in self-defence on multiple occasions. In my experience all the fights started in places where I less likely expected it, i.e at home, in a bar, pub, restaurant, shopping mall, on the way to home or work etc. To avoid a series of punches and to stay conscious even if some good punches landed on my head or body is a key ability that boxing gave me. Once the back of my head hit the edge of the toilet unit, but still I was able to get up though I felt the wave of shock went through all my body (a similar experience when you've been knocked out).
Yes, because if you're attacked especially if you are taken by surprise you might have to weather the storm and take a couple punches.
Another good thing about training in boxing is you learn to roll with punches or cover up so you aren't taking the full force of the hits. The harder you are hit the more difficult it is to defend yourself. Take the least amount of damage and the sooner you can recover and fight back.
right, it would never OCCUR to me that a fight MIGHT start in a pub or bar! what a maroon
I don't know about better? I do believe if you combine boxing and judo. You really got something now.
Or Muay Thai/kickboxing and BJJ/Jujutsu. Winning combination.
@@punisher7772I don't think Muay Thai/ Kickboxing is anywhere near boxing.
@@francismurage895 LOL
Yeah, keep thinking that until you are kicked in the leg and knocked out by a spinning elbow.
@punisher7772 MT is the goat. They're shins are like clubs
@@francismurage895 you do know a guy got his skull fractured by a flying knee in the UFC right ?
I’ve been doing boxing for 4 years now. I started off with karate I did it for 11 years started when I was really young I got my black belt, but let me tell you I didn’t realize that I knew nothing about fighting until I got into an actual fight I was beaten up and robbed. So I started boxing and it helped me it saved my life actually I can handle myself well now I would like to do either Thai boxing or wrestling in the future to well round my game. Also when I told people I did karate they laughed and made fun of me but when I told them I boxed they were like wow and never messed with me. 🥊
I totally agree with this. I've seen footage of boxers very easily and effectively take control of a situation taking out multiple opponents. Boxing and it's footwork just works, it's that simple. There's nothing fancy about it.
Great video! I've always thought of boxing as a martial art. For that matter, wresting too. But I know what you mean. I agree with you that boxing provides you with a great base. After a one-hour boxing workout, most people can hardly hold their arms up. I think if you do boxing and some wrestling, you will be set in dealing with most street fight scenarios.
If it’s 1 vs 1 grappling is king. If it’s 1 vs 2 or more, striking is king.
I'm a blue belt in bjj and soon to be purple and haven't boxed in many years, but am so happy I learned how to box when I did. It is very effective and straightforward for self defense and the workout itself helps my stamina when I roll in bjj. Boxing has holes just like every fighting style, but that's when it's best to combine boxing with bjj to defend yourself on the ground and learn some muay thai for the awareness of being able to defend against kicks and elbows.
Whatever the self defense or competitive goals are for striking, grappling or cage fighting, boxing is a great universal workout that everyone should have in their training routine.
A street fight is similar to a gunfight in that it's usually the first hit on target that wins. That's where a trained boxer has the advantage over other martial arts re; hand speed, movement and distance management.
Great point. Most boxers are more inoculated to damage from strikes, than the average person, so they can immediately counter as opposed to most people who just fold after the first clean shot!
As a LEO and mixed martial artist I agree with most of your opinion,but in law enforcement grappling is more effective because it’s more efficient and appears less brutal. If I knockout or get into a fist fight with every resisting suspect I will be fired and probably arrested, but if I get the take down and ground control usually no one gets hurt and I can keep my job.
Yeah in law enforcement optics and how your write your reports are more important than anything.
The fact that you're a cop and you're bringing your zodiac sign into this is terrifying. You sound like a mental case 🤪👮🏼♂️😂
@@kumarjr1696he puts his zodiac sign of the perps in his police reports too 😂
What's the best grappling art for self defense?
@@MrWinning43 Judo or wrestling
I totally agree. I would want you as a boxing coach.
My plan is to do boxing at least 2 years then would like to do judo
I do both KYOKISHIN, karate and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but I’ve also integrated parts of boxing into my training, and I must say whatever it comes to defensive maneuvers. I had never seen any sort of head movement quite like boxings, and it’s very effective.
Kyokushin is a very respectable style I must say. Very similar to Muay Thai, no bs.
Great video. I did both boxing and BJJ. In my experience at the BJJ gym, the owner acted like BJJ was the end all to for all street fights. He would talk about how in a boxing stance someone could just shoot in and do a take down as if a boxer wouldn't move around or throw a hook or something. Great content!
Man coach V I’m so glad you made a video on this topic. I always tell people, if two 225 guys on steroids roll in submission grappling, It’s still not necessarily a FIGHT. With boxing I don’t care if it’s two middle aged women who are 115 pounds fight with 16 oz gloves, headgear and x 2:00 rounds, that’s still a FIGHT where one of them can DIE!
I like your analogy. I totally agree when you’re throwing blows that really is with the line is crossed between safe and dangerous. Nothing against grappling, but that is the art of postponing a fight unless you’re factoring in submissions as you know, you get points deducted for too much holding because it’s not considered advancing your position!
Yeah but the 225lb steroid-guys can potentially get their limbs snapped or their joints shredded within seconds.
Also, are we assuming that there is a ref cause if you hold onto a blood choke for too long the other person will literally die.
@@polarbearswag7342
Yes you are right death can occur in any sport. However, within the rules of submission grappling holding things past the tap is illegal. So applying a choke past the tap can happen yes, but it’s not within the rules.
In the case of Boxing, even at the most novice level regardless of gender, age and size, the rules ENCOURAGE you to leave your opponent unconscious. Both sports are similar in that they require the signing of waivers, it’s just that in boxing the inherent risk is more upfront and blatant. (In my opinion)
@@stefankeeney8462You’re right, I misinterpreted your original post when I first read it yesterday 🤦🏻♂️.
Injuring someone in a grappling competition would have to be either by accident or a refusal to tap (or some asshole not letting go lol).
Where as in boxing, even sparring sessions can cause brain trauma.
Boxing with wrestling and judo are a safe bet in a self defence situation. Also incorporating Japanese ju-jitsu would help. I want see a combination of Boxing and Karate.
There's just a limit to how much time the average person can put into training, but yes you are right of course.
btw, could one argue boxing is in some situation, more effective than kickboxing or muay thai in the street? because in the street ppl usually wearin jeans or slim pants, which makes it significantly more difficult to kick...just a thought!
I totally agree boxing is way more fast-paced than kickboxing
I did Muay Thai now doing boxing I plan getting back into Thai. I love boxing the footwork and striking is needed.
Having great footwork and being sharp and efficient with your hands is the most important skill set a man could have for defending himself
Having worked in corrections and private security. I used more of what I learned from Muay Thai/boxing then I did jiu jitsu, to be fair I enjoyed boxing more and the footwork and evading really helped me. In a jail environment you don’t want to be on the ground, that is a terrifying thing.
Exactly all these Jiu-Jitsu dogs that never been punched in the face think that crap is going to work in the street or in jail they are sadly mistaken
Judoka will throw a boxer before he can punch him
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dythere’s many videos of it working though
@@sebozz2046 ik ur trolling I know so many grapplers afraid of a punch thru don’t train for punches very weak chin imo
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy If boxing fags weren't so delusional and knew how to read they would've did their research and learn that Jiu Jitsu is not just ground game but it has on feet grappling too, Gi or NoGi. Plus Jiu Jitsu teaches defensive grappling techniques how to get away from bad situations if you do end up in tight position as well as on the ground. Plus one throw on a concrete is just as effective as a one strike that could KO someone.
I agree and have always known this. Boxing is very good as a foundational system. Especially the sparring. Boxing teaches effective use of head movement, footwork, develops your speed and power, you learn to take hits and keep on fighting, etc. I actually started in martial arts and my very first class was Aikido but at the same time I was boxing too. Lots of sparring in my teen years and my 20's. Throughout the years I trained in many different systems, everything from Karate to BJJ.
However as good as boxing is I don't believe it is the best. It can develop a person into a fighter in the shortest time possible, that is one of it's strengths. It doesn't take very long to see results and majority of martial arts especially the traditional systems progress is very slow and it could take years before you are truly effective and gain significant results from your training. One of the drawbacks to martial arts. To really get good it takes a long time. The advantage however is you can hold your own and it makes you effective against a bigger larger attacker. The techniques are designed to cripple and take the body apart, it will also prepare you for situations where you are forced to end someone's life. Boxing doesn't. Throwing hooks, jabs, uppercuts and cross punches can only take you so far. Other than the liver and the chin boxing doesn't go for the most vulnerable areas. Punching a much larger stronger attacker in his head and face or his body might not be enough, even if you have a speed advantage. Also you have to condition your knuckles because if you punch someone in the head without gloves or wraps around your hand you could break your hand. Martial arts teaches this plus you learn to use different parts of your hand as well as your elbows, forearms, your head, your feet, etc. Even your fingers which are particularly good for attacking the eyes. Boxing doesn't teach any pressure points. Martial artists especially in the more advanced Chinese martial arts gets deep into that area of study.
Also boxing has no defense against certain martial art techniques such as leg kicks and what is known as trapping and limb destruction which is commonly taught in Filipino martial arts as well as Wing Chun/Jeet Kune Do. Silat ( Indonesian martial art ) also has this as well as many types of sweeps and attacking from the ground, very unorthodox and unpredictable ways of fighting.
Honestly getting all touchy with someone is the most effective way to catch a fade, great video man, I liked.
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Just notice you didn’t touch up alot about the subject “JUDO” In judo there’s also alot of movement..fight for grips, drag opponent, offbalancing opponent, use their attack against them.. Judo moves also are mostly defences..(managing distance) to throw, sweep, takedowns..and many times the judoka could also be left standing instead..which gives him/her time to add more damage to the opponent or simply look to exit the scene. With that said there’s also alot of footwork in JUDO as well..
Judo is amazing man for the streets ❤
I agree. It wouldn’t hurt to learn both Boxing and Judo.
Judo is the most realistic martial arts for how most street fights actually start. It works in clinch range and uses take downs that are throws as opposed to single or double legs that lead to ground fighting. Someone who can throw and box is gonna be a strong fighter in the street.
@@TheMatrixofMeaning Boxing - combined with Judo and your going to be a Terminator
I don't like Judo mostly for the fact that I have done it to black belt level, and it is difficult to execute techniques with an opponent who is resisting. But it is EXTREMELY difficult to execute techniques on someone running away.
If your opponent isn't willing staying in the clinch with you it is hard to get your hips under their center of gravity or to apply sweeps. I like wrestling because you can force your will by shooting, whereas in judo a lot of its success is timing based. I have also experienced firsthand that especially when there's no gi, you can have your back taken on many throws
This video found its way to me- been in a similar dilemma between choosing boxing and mma. ive already had two fairly recent boxing lessons , and i always felt like it would be the most logical to start with boxing. i think all are good though!
. Some really good points were made here and i can agree with most said. i have a heavy grappling and martial arts backround myself, but now, at age 50 i focus most on my boxing, footwork, timing, reading opps ....etc, and boxing (at least old school boxing) goes deeper into "grappling" than most people would think.
The footwork, head movement, and overall body mechanics of boxing are so fundamental not just to a fist fight, but translate incomparably better than any other martial art's skillset.
The future addition of any other means of striking (kicks, knees, open hand, etc.) are included very easily due to boxing's movement mechanics alone.
The addition of BJJ or Judo basics adds such a strong layer of overall competency in a fight.
I completely agree with you, Mr. Virgilio!!! ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY can WRESTLE..........ONLY A RARE FEW CAN GENUINELY BOX!!!
About time someone said it out loud
Amazing perspective coach, I've never heard anyone articulate this topic quite so. You are a real blessing to listen too, keep up the momentum!
I do muay thai and BJJ and i 100% agree you should do some form of striking and grappling preferably
How is your thai clinch and you takedowns?
@@Todo_fighting takedowns probably non-existent unless they mix in Judo maybe. The wrestling addition I usually see is subpar
@NoRockinMansLand agree, never seen a good bjj guys with good takedowns that doesn't cross train in judo or wrestling, but I know bjjs are focusing a bit more of takedowns, and most muay thai gyms don't really teach much clinching.
being battle tested can't be overstated. early in life I learned Karate and got my black belt in 2 years. Later on, i trained in boxing. I feel I learned more about actual fighting in 1 month boxing than I did in Karate, mainly because every day you're spending time in the ring and actually testing what you learned. Karate sparring is different, blows to head are not allowed, and they teach you mainly to just protect your torso and back from getting hit (tournament fighting). Of course that doesn't prepare you against an opponent who is coming at you trying to take your head off. Granted, what I learned in Karate wasn't useless, I learned to incorporate those into my game, but definitely boxing was more useful overall. Things you learn in Karate a lot of times were for show, but everything learned in boxing is practical. And of course once again, the sparring and actual pressure testing is crucial to know what will actually work and what won't.
Correct. I ve done 6 yrs of boxing fought in amateur, and started BJJ and judo in recent years found that they are easy, in that what they considered a fight is a play for me.
Boxing is great for the street knocking people out and you are also used of getting hit to the head.
But you forget that you can break your hands to because no hand wraps and big gloves to protect them .
But Boxing is above BJJ because fighting on the ground can be dangerous, when there are more opponent.
I think Judo is equally to boxing because every fight can get close so with Judo you can trow your opponents with a brutal force to the ground !
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Ull only break ur hands when you’re punching something like the head because ur fist are designed to punch people ion the face and if in Texas get brass knuckles
I view boxing as a classic in a good way too 😅
I agree to a point, but I think having boxing first down pat and then learning Jujitsu is the best sequence to becoming an all round fighter. And it’s all about context, I am an old man now of 54 years and the main threats I might face at this stage of my life are lone wolf attacks in a car park, road rage or home invasion as apposed to when I was young and drunk in groups. So now I am not so worried if I have to go to ground using jujitsu if my striking doesn’t put the person away and they are charging at you. Look an arm drag and then rear naked choke is dam effective. The best thing I like about Jujitsu and what you don’t hear enough about in self defence are the escapes from being pinned down by just a bigger heavier person. There are truly some magical techniques that you would never think about if you never gained Jujitsu to get someone off you. Counterintuitive things that only though training can you know. If you can escape you can keep fighting or get the hell out of there if not it’s bad news and you are on a wing and a prayer. God bless
I just started boxing and I'm overweight and it's amazing for footwork and cardio
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that also might come from the fact that boxing hyper focuses on one aspect. having only one focus rather than trying to do everything all at once will lead to being significantly better at that one thing. having that hands-only focus will also lead to being able to base your footwork all around that. feel free to correct me if i’m wrong :)
This guy is brilliant. I will listen to him all day.
With respect; the first few UFCs disprove what your saying pretty convincingly. People had to start learning Jiu Jitsu/Grappling before they could beat the Jiu Jitsu guy. Now if you want to come up wit some scenario where you’re fighting five guys on a bed of glass then maybe boxing might be better, maybe. But I could just as easily say what if the fight is in a tiny room that doesn’t allow the boxer to use his footwork before the grappler gets his hands on him. One on one/No holds barred the pure Jiu Jitsu guy beats the boxing guy 9 out of 10 times. Once the boxing guy learns how to defend against Jiu Jitsu then I would go with the boxer.
Yes I agree. Even in boxing there is a lot of clinch work which is grappling. It is much easier to grab hold of a man than it is to land a KO punch.
there is such a thing in boxing as "telephone booth fight")
and if there are more than 1 opponent, doing jiu jitsu/grappling is a very dangerous idea.
@@vanyavanya-bo4js This is true.
I learned boxing and wrestling when I was in grade school. I learned other arts later, and I can say from experience in several street fights, boxing is my go to art.
There is a difference between fighting and criminal violence. Fighting is somewhat mutual to a degree, for example, two guys in a bar exchange words then step outside for a brawl. Criminal violence is sudden with little warning, for example, a group of teens playing the knockout game & sneaking up on a victim. Criminal violence often involves two or more attackers, an armed attacker or both. The best defense against criminal violence is an equalizer such as a pistol or pepper spray & of course general awareness of your surroundings. Unarmed against criminal violence I would definitely take boxing & wrestling before all other styles, what you need when SHFT is simplicity. However keep in mind unarmed no matter what style you are very much behind the power curve when facing criminal violence.
What's good Coach V? I'll take Boxing over any type of physical training all day. Your video reminded me of the Mayweather & McGregor fight(Classic)😂💯💪🏾🥊.
Yeah man no need to reinvent the wheel. And yes that’s funny the boxing versus MMA thing it’s always interesting to debate about!
I agree with you 100 %. Nothing will teach you to protect your head better than boxing. Ultimately, a well-rounded fighter needs some type of grappling, but boxing is absolutely foundational.
I stick with the boxing now for a lot of reasons and don't disagree with your points. the grappling was my main thing for almost two decades and labored to add standup in mma camp for a couple of amateur fights. LEOs use grappling to some extent in almost all contested encounters: Can't be knocking everyone out in this current political climate, hands will eventually damage/break on bone, era of impact weapons is over for most street encounters, you must grapple to secure braclets, etc...the striking/grappling philosophies are essentially unrelated languages. you should determine your need and train accordingly.
Honestly in my opinion I prefer judo over bjj, they still grappling on the floor like bjj but there takedowns are quicker and u can do it multiple times while running away
I do Muay Thai, Judo, and Boxing. Boxing just helps everything. I also done Wrestling because the current Judo rules are pretty bad
If your dojo allows for learning leg attacks then you're chilling
Loved the opening statement "... with the exception of kickboxing, particularly Muay Thai"
I've never trained boxing, but can totally see how it would prepare you for being punched/attacked for real.
I think, rightly or wrongly, not sure, but most martial arts seem to be soft sparing/technique building, so when you do get punched for real, it's a shock to the system and can short circuit your brain while you process wtf just happened, when you feel the pain on your face, and blood running from your nose.
Finally, just agreeing with what you are saying.
Ha ha thank you brother you get where I’m coming from I have to make the exception for that particular style but yes most people are not prepared for the brutality of being punched in the face rapidly in multiple times in a short window of time!
Agreed. Even in contact sparring, you might get a sparring partner who gets excited and lets a few punches rip harder than they mean to, and nothing helps condition you to getting punched in the face or the body than taking the occasional bomb. Also there's no better reminder to keep your hands up than when you catch a right hook because your left hand's slipping.
@@MarshallIgnas yeah...this happened to me recently haha
@@stringsnare same here.
I think you’re spot on. Great realistic perspective.
Glad you enjoyed it
You made some very valid points and I agree with everything you said.
I've been saying this ever since I've made mma my sport focus. I love wrestling, I love bjj, but anyone with good hands is way harder to manage than a good grappler or a good kicker imo. Even in muay thai a good boxer with a little bit of training time can come in and piece up a lot of people at your gym. Boxing is by far underrated
You could argue that the hands of boxing, basic throws of Judo, and basic wrist locks from aikido/aiki-jujutsu would take you far enough for the world outside the gym. So I guess I just described Kudo. Anyway, boxing hands are lethal.
Knowing to how block leg kicks help
just wanna say all your videos have excellent advice. dont stop posting. maybe do some videos on defensive basics, stance work...fundamentals that many people miss. i mean theres already videos on that and i like your more 'inner'/psychology type of vids. but yea...
Boxing is a martial art
Yes, just not a belt oriented one
@@coachv3436same with wrestling and mma
I find it stupid to refer only belt oriented fighting styles martial arts
Your info is bang on. Full contact sparring is a HUGE factor. Even after 7 months, you are hitting with power, are hard for a thug to hit, and know how to 'buy time' . A good l jab is a great weapon, to buy time or frustrate the big tough guy). f the attacker is more skilled than most thugs. You have guard, defence, footwork,., LJ -RT x L hook,, and speed. (Of course I boxed ) Also, you never lose the opwer, and the timing is alo in the Muscle memory. In karate, they stop once they landed an 'almost hist ys.. puhch, and that is often when the right starts. Not knocking karate, but unlike the boxer, they can't land a hard sucker punch (eg the thug is making threats and closing in on you. Do the boxing first, then if you like to learn the kicks of karate,7-8 months.. and then get into Judo. My dime's worth. Great clip
Lol! Judo is far more affective on the streets and judo and Japanese jiu-jitsu or aikido should be practiced by law enforcement period. However boxing is affective but boxing is very limited in a law enforcement situation and will get you killed or in prison. This young man is absolutely incorrect about cops choosing boxing over jiu-jitsu in enforcement. Judo, and Japanese jiu-jitsu is what you need in law enforcement period. Boxing and bjj is totally sport fighting and not self defense.
Effective*
If you fight anything like you spell you probably get your ass kicked a lot 😂😂
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy boxing is affective but it's sports base and not a material art
plus your point to start martial arts training with boxing makes sence too, since distance and angle control (the points boxing shines) are the first things to take care of in a fight
Shaolin monks seem to do way way more conditioning than fighting is why their kung fu works and yours don't
I've never trained harder for anything in my life than boxing. Just when you think you're tired coach will throw something at us. He always would tell us you got to put yourself through something
Honestly he's right I wouldn't say better than any martial art though but this is all you need in most situations
Everyone should know how to strike and move efficiently while doing so. Nothing beats boxing for this. Muay Thai and Kickboxing are great because they give you access to more weapons but have a bit less of an emphasis on head movement and footwork. Regardless, everyone should know how to box, regardless of your style. As a foundation, it really can't be beat.
I think it's personal preference. Which sport is more fun to you? Go do that. If you like rolling on the ground and playing the submission game do that. If you like punching kicking elbows and stuff then do that. If you just like punching then do that. They'll all get you in shape and they'll all give you tools you can use against one other unarmed opponent.
Just wanted to add boxing is in fact a martial art as well. It’s the art of mastering your hands to the most efficient way possible and balance and position. But yes all major combat arts are great for anyone to learn and offer something more valuable when transitioning once you get comfortable switching arts you can take some things and have an advantage once you pick up something else
Boxing is not a martial art by definition martial arts are Asian fighting systems that are structured with belt systems boxing is the total opposite. I hate when karate people try to act like they know everything about boxing. Who's been training for 30 years and got forty stripes on their belt and never even been punched in the face for real
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy well the origination of the phrase comes from there but martial art just is a simple way of saying the art of combat either seen as a sport or for war or self defense. And yes I agree with you on some martial arts not having the experience. The advantage a lot of sport martial arts have is they have experience cause they are always fighting each other so just like anything in life you are going to get really good at it if you keep putting it to the test all the time. From my experience the difference about boxing from traditional stuff is lots of gym skip the mental practices and humility you need to develop you as a person and they just get straight to the training for boxing. If you want the spiritual side of martial arts you need the right coach or similar people that care about it
@@WortonChavelle-kp9dy that doesn't make much sense because things always go further and further back, egypt probably had the oldest form of grappling and striking. And before that people were doing it
Knowing some sort of self defence is all about trade-offs. I'm a complete amateur when it comes to this, but I like the simplicity of boxing, which has both a beauty and effectiveness to it. You can teach yourself the very basics by practising four types of punches and regularly shadowbox. It won't make you either a proper boxer or a self-defence expert, but it will at least give you something to work with, a certain amount of very basic self-confidence which is better than nothing. Most ordinary people don't have the time or will to put down hours of training in a gym, so this is one way of still acquiring some sort of extremely elementary self-defence capability. Having to learn only four ways of punching combined with some kind of footwork and evasive movement at least gives you a better chance than someone with no practice whatsoever.
I wanna see some Coach V. Beat up the heavy bag!
Hey bro. Great content. I had a question. How much does heavy bag work carry over into sparring and self defense? I talk to some guys that train and they say it's completely useless. I do have experience sparring but gained a lot of injuries overtime and had to take 2 years off of training.
Not OP but self defence is maximised when your techniques become second nature. Hitting bags isn't as good as you don't get punished for mistakes but you do get to practice your techniques on a very solid target! Sparring against someone is half of it, the technique is the other half.
Karate is better for the street/ boxing is sport/ self defense is not SPORTS/ I HAVE BEEN IN 7 STREET FIGHTS/KARATE WAS MY WINNER.THANKS
I'll agree with this 100% but for a different reason. Boxing is simple and easy to learn. A handful of basic punches, some basic footwork, some basic defense and that's it. Those are the basics.. learn those and you're well above most "fighters." Master them and you will be epic.
Boxing is the best self defensive shit you can't beat it if u doing right 💯 🤜🏾💥👊🏾💥🤛🏾
THE no1 advantage of boxing over bjj is that it does not require as much mobility in articulations. Which means you can still be dangerous boxer at 55.
I agree growing up a street fighter first. Then a boxer and a bjj blue belt. I put my son in bjj at 11 he is now sixteen and still too soft for a real fight. I just started him in boxing. I believe it will make him a stronger person in life.
Most fights end in a form of knockout than a submission... Fights start on feet, not the ground and anyone can learn basic take down defense.
Very solid points. (Coming from a karate blackbelt)
The only problem are Modern Boxers rely too much on gloves that are weapons, In street you are bare handed I think it's essencial that every fighter use Makiwara.
Im unexperienced but I agree. I don't even want to be able to fight necessarily. I just want to know I can take punches or kicks and not crumble...I feel like all other martial arts with their ability to tap out removes this element of pain and fear of the unexpected that striking arts have. Also it seems that wrestling seems like the most realistic grappling style. It's the closest things to two apes just dueling. Start off standing up and go from there. BJJ with the gi and everything seems to be too technical at first for simple self defense purposes. I want to learn the basics of strking and grappling, not learn about how to grip a lapel and all that.
Ever heard of a suit or jacket? I primary train no gi, but when I put on a gi there are soooooo many ways you can control or be controlled. This will translate to suits jackets and jeans.
I have a friend who is a black belt I don’t remember in what discipline but he told me if he ever has a son he would put him in boxing and wrestling.
in my opinion the perfect base for self defence and fighting are greco wrestling and olympic boxing, the two cleanes and most effective martial arts (at least for people from western countries), they kinda are like "ying and young", two sides of s solid coin. The sweet science of boxing is just much more interesting to watch
Really solid points. I'll add another one.. A submission grappling based style (BJJ, judo, submission wrestling etc.) loses effectiveness in a cramped, closed off environment like a crowded bar or (God forbid) an airplane. Even kickboxing or Muy Thai would be restricted in a case like that. In that type of scenario boxing reigns supreme.
my "favorite" is self-defense trainings, where coaches say "we don't sparr, because our technique is so deadly, we will kill each other"!
But of course they can easily destroy any boxer or wrestler=)
Fighting is moving and boxing has the best footwork. Moves at the speed of combat.
This is true. Most to all fights are standup and you really do not want to go on the ground. However kickboxing is much more effective than boxing. I am sure an average professional kickboxer could have beat even Mike Tyson at his peak. As soon as Tyson would have gotten within punching range, a front kick would have kept the distance.
great video coach. I totally agree.
Kickboxing is better for the street. One good leg kick/sweep will end a fight before a boxer can even get close enough to jab.
I tried tkd , judo and boxing and I can say boxing is tough and for the streets. Couldn't survive two months of running 1/2 hrs daily before any actual training.
People mock Classic Karate but their hands are very strong bare handed the Modern Boxing let the fighters much confortable with gloves.
Agree boxing is also way more fun. I’m training both in boxing and shotokan now
I have a question.
Do you have to be competitive to be good at boxing? Or to reap the benefits of self defence and conditioning?
I tell people all the time it’s the best work out in the world and of course you will learn how to defend yourself, taking it to the competitive level is a much higher commitment. Learn the basics do the work out and take it from there!
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You don’t have to compete to be nice in boxing, learning how to box is learning how box, once you learn how to box you’ll never forget it it’s quality over quantity, I know a few folks who boxed since kids all the way up to their teens never had pro fights, but they was just so nice with it putting professional boxers that just retired to sleep in sparing, aslongs you learn how to box weather it’s in the gym or RUclips or whatever you can and you can learn from it you’re good some people train for like 3 to 5 months and due to their genetics and lifestyle trauma etc… it’s like they’ve been boxing for years, so yeah learning how to strike and defending yourself is golden whether you’re competing or not.
@@tylique9142 Thanks for reply I appreciate it. Do you box?
@@Mraymankarate yes I box I haven’t sparred in a while honestly tho but I train to stay in shape and to stay sharpe
If you don't plan on competing, SPAR. Most people don't know how to look at another man who is trying to hurt you let alone take a punch. Spar with experienced boxers, also one class higher and one weight class lower than you, listen to your coach and get used to getting hit while also getting used to delivering combos to your opponent, you'll learn how helpless it feels to gas out and learn how to conserve your energy
There are 4 elements boxing is better than in any other disciplines.
① Punch
② Head move
③ Footwork
④ Vision
Boxing and jujitsu is a nice combo, you can stand and trade and if you get knocked down you can break some ankles
I strongly believe a boxing base alongside wrestling! is solid and from there move onto Muay Thai then finish with Judo!
Hey, if you have the free time - do both. Hell, train in striking, wrestling AND get yourself a concealed carry and maybe even some knife training. The point is to be hard to kill, right? Why not go all in? That's what I'm doing.
once you get really good at kickboxing or muay thai it beats boxing.
Number one boxing is better for beginners because it takes less time to learn. I did Muay Thai for years before boxing. Depending on the experience, durability, athleticism and other factors just having the skills alone does not Trump boxing. Because I have seen good MT guys get wrecked with just a hands by pure boxers, so it's all circumstantial