Even as a self-proclaimed Nissan hater, seeing the careful consideration that went into this Z is something that brings me tremendous joy. The world we knew is sunsetting, that is unavoidable. The next generation of driving may be awful, or it may just be wonderful in its own way, only time will tell. But for those of us who have been raised on the feeling of driving a well set up, connected sports car, one where every one of the senses is put to use to precisely move through space, the new Z is a triumph, despite its flaws. A massive congratulations to the engineers and designers that pushed to bring this car to market, especially at a tough time like this at Nissan. Here's to another few decades of modified Z's making trumpet sounds down the street at 2am.
Problem is, it is ultimately from a brand that never recovered from the GFC, and is owned by Renault group - which means no matter how good the car is, you have to deal with some of the worst after sales support in the world if you buy one.
I also am glad this came around because I feel like it was partially the reason for the Supra getting a manuel. They don't want to lose all those customers to the z family lols
Nissan sure is flawed now, but they’ve made more affordable drivers cars in their history than just about anyone, even if you think Honda’s or Toyota’s are better.
The cinematography. The interviews. The technical depth. The history. The editing. Another piece of peak automotive journalism. Well done SG team. Amazing job.
I was blown by what I've watched in the past 40 minutes. Still having a hard time believing that I was on RUclips. I would want to add the two presenters themselves into your list too. I feel like they've grown very accustomed to one another over the years and there's something about the dynamics between the duo that made the presentation entertaining in its own unique way.
We will be on live chat during premiere. This video was created to, tell the design story, engineering changes and try to re-define the launch videos of new cars. This was the combination of well over 3 weeks worth of work to make this video. We continue to hope manufacturers like Nissan find the value in small private outlets like us to out work the corporate media giants.
I know that you will deliver a better product than the media giants. They don't care about quality. They don't care about every detail that goes into the development, engineering, and manufacturing of these works of art. They only care about being first. You focus on the details within the art, that the car manufacturers have made.
I just don't understand how Doug Demuro gets so much more views than this channel. These guys put so much effort into every videos they make instead of just talking about quirks and features. The cinematography is miles ahead of every other car reviewers on youtube
Mark & co.: Thank you for the sacrifices you made to bring us a true piece of automotive journalism. This video will stand the rest of time. People will watch this 10 years from now.
This video is not well rounded. Its a promo ad for Nissan. Its an insult to call this anything but a sponsored promo ad. This is so against what Savagegeese was as a reviewer. I cannot take what they say serious anymore as they can be bought by the manufactures.
For realz. 10 years ago, they needed one of the biggest broadcasting companies to produce content like this. This channel is just missing that third troll to make the trifecta of the Three Stooges. Subscribe to this channel if you haven't because 572K is a fucking joke for content and production value this good.
Gen X , lover of cars, owner of a 1990's twin turbo 300ZX here. I watched Nissan lose their way and then seeing them return to this, with everything going on means there is a core of hope amongst the soulless, CVT, calculator worshiping company that once made the 240SX, 300ZX , Skyline and others. From a journalistic standpoint I am not sure what other outlets do to compare to the level of enthusiasm, honesty, chemistry and quality of the reviews on savagegeese. I am loving seeing your access and inclusion from the industry grow . It is truly a triumph. My sincerest congratulations to both of you.
Holy hell what an insane production quality, thank you so much for making my days better with your videos, especially this one. By far the best coverage of this car, and I doubt it'll be surpassed until this thing is a classic featured in a documentary.
Had to give a thumbs up the second I saw the interview in the intro. Bar none, BEST coverage of the Z, the cinematography, the music, the stories, the emotions; absolutely hit it out of the park with this one. Can't believe a car review could bring tears to my eyes, absolutely beautiful coverage of the new Z, cheers.
@@savagegeese "... easier to stomach." This is work you can be proud of; your consistent message regarding the loss of this sort of vehicle is making me think and I expect I'm not the only one.
Some cars have a soul. Mark even commented on it. The old guard is right. As a 50 year old that has a 350Z and is still making it better year after year there's a lot to be said for the feeling a car provides. Nissan has provided more of everything that matters with this one. This video was awesome.
I don't think I've ever seen such a honest, down to earth, and relaxed car designer interview before. Usually it's full of marketing term bs and art college terms being thrown around by some designer refusing to get off his high horsy
Gents, this video feels like a level up for you. The previous videos have built to this, but something about this one feels like it's broken through to a new level. Well done, and thank you.
I love that this guy from Nissan is talking about the dissatisfaction about the supra not having a manual transmission. People who want sports cars generally prefer manuals. I'm glad someone is listening
HUGE PROPS to NISSAN for not killing off the Z and continuing the legacy. This new Z has so much history behind it. I mean just look at it. It has all generations mixed in to a new modern package. Has a manual transmission and a gas powered engine. Get them while you can. This car is a classic in the making👍😎
Definitely not a classic, it’s incredibly boring in its lines and oddly convoluted in its details. It’s basically yet another dull sports coupe, despite its numbers. Too much content, oversized on the outside, cramped on the inside. Odd how the designers feel they’ve created something beautiful.
@@mr.butterworth They never said it was perfect rather almost perfect. These type of cars are being replaced by boring and very ugly electric vehicles. If your not a fan of the Z and it's history i can understand your point other than that? Nothing to complain about.
@@theeppychronicles you need to watch more videos on this car. A concerning point is the movement of the manual Z stick shift during acceleration. That was a major problem of my 370z Nismo. I had to redo all the rear diff and subframe bushings a long with a brace and the noise from the rear was loud.
This is no longer just a car RUclips channel, this is art at display Mark, congratulations and well done. Beautiful, and you give us this for free, you should produce for Top Gear, then they actually might recover what they lost after the departure of their three stars. Very impressed by this video...
@@jackholmes8105 You guys so thoroughly deserve the praise. Your hard work is showing and it is very impressive what you pulled off with this video. Congrats and thank you so very much for this piece of 🖼 God bless from Norway.
@@jackholmes8105 Jack, I remember when you first started on Savagegeese's channel. The growth since then is as mind-boggling as the fact that that the turbos can spin as much as 3,750 revolutions per second!
You guys crushed it on this video! The cinematography, the details and interviews were top notch. This is the pinnacle of the channel so far, and can’t wait to see what comes next.
THE BEST coverage/story telling of this new car in all the internets! You guys rock! No other youtuber or journalist or whoever covered this car this well. The effort you guys go into to set up the interviews and get the stories is well worth it. You may not be the first to release a video (something the others strive for) but you are the only channel that counts! Thank you!
Loved the interview with the designers/engineers and how you tied back into it at the end, mentioning how they’ve experienced the definition of “sports car” changing over time. It’s a fantastic point to make, and gives your film an emotional component that all the other reviews lack. The new Z seems like it will be a legend and I can’t wait to see more content on this.
The definition of “sports car” doesn’t change however. People only pervert the concept, and twist it around ideas that don’t fit that definition, just so they can say “sports car”. Today’s Z is really just a sports coupe - one of many on the market, which dilutes the car greatly. It’s odd how many people think this car is somehow groundbreaking.
@Mr. Butterworth I appreciate the correction. The definition has not changed, but what people are willing to live with has. I am happy to see another Japanese, rear wheel drive coupe (with a stick) on the market, even if it is diluted. I think the hype around this car is partly due to the Japanese coupe renaissance we're experiencing, and partly because it came from Nissan. It's one of their more exciting products in recent memory.
What an honor. A better group of guys couldn't have been selected to introduce the Z to North America. It's stupid, but I really teared up. This car, it is a family member for me. First car was a 350z. Dad, when he left, he had a 93 TT. It's going to be fun seeing where this is taken by the community.
As someone who has no strong feelings towards the Z one way or the other, I definitely felt some emotion when they first take the new Z on the track and then pan to the previous Gen Z behind it. Kind of a passing of the torch.
This video was absolutely breathtaking. You have some of the greatest cinematography I have ever seen. Mark and Jack, the work you do to not only showcase these vehicles but paint them in an honest light for the everyday individual is so amazing. Being 27 and with certain current financial responsibilities, seeing your videos give me hope to one day be able to buy a true affordable drivers car. Right now the goal is the new 86/brz 😎. Just wanted to say thank you so much for everything you do and wish you both the best!
Once again, a top notch review by the SG team. The level of detail provided in areas where most content creators will gloss over is very impressive. This video taught me a lot about what has gone into the new Z and I have a greater appreciation for the car now. Thank you for all of your efforts - they are very appreciated.
Holy crap this looks like a $10k/minute documentary. I'm not sure how you produce such good quality with such regularity and consistent improvement. It would be interesting to see a behind the scenes... a "making of" some of this stuff so we can see just how you pull this off.
"Welcome to Jurassic Mark" as the orchestra music plays softly on a mid range car audio system that is slightly bass heavy according to the sound engineer.
Man what a fantastic video, great work. I have owned a 240z, 280z, 300z, 300 turbo, 2x 300 twin turbos then life and kids took over. This car might be my next Z. What a great history and tribute video this was, sure made me smile.
It annoys me when people complain that it’s on the same platform as the 370z. Just be happy we are even getting this car! It doesn’t have to be new all the time, you can improve the old stuff. As always fantastic video guys, you deserve so much more recognition.
Ok. I have to say something after watching this. You two work so well together, you two produce such good content that I can only hope you get bigger and achieve the success you want and deserve. Including lots of money! You really do amazing work and you reached a new level with this video. I have never seen anything like this anywhere. Ever. The car is great. Fine. But you two, the hosts, are outstanding. Absolutely amazing work. Congrats.
I’m thrilled you gentlemen were the first journalists to drive the Z in the country. You all deserve this. The number one car journalism channel on RUclips. The number one car review media period. Couldn’t be happier.
Gentlemen, this is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for putting in all this effort and skill to tell these amazing stories. This video was another masterclass.
A lot of people talk about your cinematography (rightfully so) and production quality (rightfully), but man, the way you presented this: the pacing, the story, the build ups.....It's just A+ all around. I never paid any attention to this car before, and now I want to drive one.
Usually "Driving Impressions" is my favorite part of your reviews, but telling the story and cinematography take the cake here. And a lesson in double wishbone suspension!
This is without a doubt the absolute best video review of this car on all of RUclips. Thank you. Please never stop making these videos. You guys are the "goats" of youtube car reviews. Iv watched alot of reviews. Unlike alot of those videos, your videos have soul. Their the most informative and easy to digest videos I'v seen. They are pretty damn entertaining too, Patagonia jackets and all.👍
I didn't want a Z before this video. After seeing the team talk about the work that they've done to it though, and hearing about how much better it is than the 370... Damn I want one so baddd. This was an incredible video by the way! Your longer segments are always interesting to watch. I love hearing from the development teams and seeing how passionate they are, it really makes cars come alive.
@@2moke2creen bmw doesn't even sell a single B58 car with manual in the US anymore. I think they ended up modifying the Z4 4 cyl manual trans from Europe
I have never commented on a video but I can’t let this pass. What an amazing and professional production. I couldn’t afford a 240Z when they came out, and did an early preorder of the Z. Your review has me salivating! One of your final comments made me question - can you name an expensive sports car that is less fun to drive?
@@mikewaite3746 Assuming he is in Canada (there were no pre orders in US), no. Only 2 people have gotten their Z in Canada yet. I'm also waiting for my pre order. Good chance it arrives in the next month or two
What a joy that must have been to drive. Hats off to Nissan for having the guts to do this. And the beauty of this video. Absolutely superb piece of work, both car and the review.
This video is off the chain….This is the best video you have ever produced. This was giving me chills throughout and I’m not even a Nissan fan. This video should win an award!!!
This review was exactly what everyone needed to hear/see. Yes it's the old chassis, but that's okay. It's a driver's car, something that is dying. Way to go Nissan & SavageGeese.
THIS. This video is what other car channels should be striving for their quality. The cinematography, the interviews, the specs, the discussion of what this car is striving for are all so perfectly done. You gents never disappoints, and I'm embarassed to say that I'm getting emotional watching this video, knowing this car might be the last of its kind to grace the car culture.
Thank you Nissan for still making a relatively affordable, rear wheel drive sports car with an internal combustion engine and manual transmission. That music at 27:12 made me sad, it reminded me how the days for cars like this are numbered. And they'll be gone within the next 10 years, so you gotta live in the present and enjoy each shift. Bravo guys, what a video!
Mark and Jack killed it once again. Bringing the story of the new Z to life in a beautiful way. I hope this car sells big time to show manufacturers that people still want soul in their sports cars.
I love this so much. Hearing the designers talk so candidly about their triumphs and failures is really wonderful. Unlike everything else you get from most of these interviews from other manufactures that feel very staged and scripted, this feels so natural and genuine. This further makes me realize just how incredible this channel is. You all truly are revolutionizing the automotive journalism space with videos like these. Incredible job, guys.
By far my favorite RUclips car channel! You continue to raise the bar with cinematography, sound, and visuals. I love how you breakdown the history and show the passion for what car manufacturers still do for us diehards. I look forward to more videos like this. You guys do the best job detailing the mechanical aspects of the cars you review. I appreciate the good, the bad, and the ugly perspectives. Plus I dig the sense of humor and entertainment you provide along the way. You should think about “on the road series” of some private owner reviews where you get to drive and share the passion of your viewers as well. By far you would to the best job in showcasing not only cars provided to you by manufacturers but also car enthusiasts and collectors. Great job! Look forward to the next one.
Man, the nissan documentaries and the lexus lfa doc have been SO DAMN GOOD. The ammount of effort and passion you put into these videos never goes unnoticed, from the camera work to the sound editing. Talking to the engineers also makes me happy as an engineer myself. Youre a legend
Very well done. As the owner of a Z, I really appreciate this documentary. Cannot wait to drive the new iteration. Such a great car throughout its history.
Thank you Mark and Jack for the incredible work you put out into the automotive universe. Your short films (Z, GT3, Lexus V8s/LFA, etc) will be a reference point for generations of enthusiasts
I haven't even gotten a third of the way through and I have to thank you for having an intelligent, articulate, yet aesthetically pleasing video. I watched another channel's review and after hearing the word nice for the 18th time... pretty sure I heard the word delightful, too 😄... I have no doubt that you will provide a thoughtful and informative video for grown ups. kudos!
I watched all the early reviews last night knowing they wouldn't even come close to answering all the questions that Savagegeese would. Boy was I right. This channel is unbeatable. Impeccable work as always, boys.
I hit I-75 north of Tampa in my 370Z for a celebratory run today, in honor of this fantastic video. All hail glorious Nissan and thanks guys! 48,000 miles on the 370 so far. Drinks 1/8 quart of Redline 5W40 every 5,000 miles. Zero issues.
You guys have knocked this video out of the park. Bravo. I bought a 370Z figuring it wasn't worth waiting, I stand by that decision, and I'm really not that interested in the Z as a result. But hearing how Nissan's old guard have tamed some of the rough edges from the 370Z and put so much love into this car as part of a lifelong journey warms my heart and tickles my engineering gland at the same time. I wish it every success as a true driver's car.
As a long time z33 owner, this made me very sentimental. Fantastic content, savagegeese is definitely a channel that is under appreciated in the automotive industry. This video was a slap to my wrist, almost pulling a trigger on one of these ‘cultural-must’ new EVs.
I loved the conclusion. So many have confused the definition of a sports car with 60 and 1/4 mile times, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Where do you go with sports cars when EVs can decimate everything, or a 2L Accord can gap most "sporty" cars? You have to lean into what made sports cars great, which is the connection and the experience. It's taking it down a country road on a Sunday afternoon and just enjoying the drive, not worrying about how fast you get from red light to red light on a strip. It's not always about pure speed and I hate that we've gotten so far away from that.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Well, Miele vacuums offer everything a Dyson does with better performance, why doesn't everyone just by Miele vacuums? Just because something is technically better doesn't make it more desirable. Low to mid-range EVs like the model 3 or the base Mustang offer great straight line speed and good range, but sacrifice handling dynamics and performance. If you want to have brakes big enough that they don't overheat and fade after a couple hard stops or suspension that doesn't body roll over 5 degrees in a sharp corner, than you're gonna have to shell out for the performance variants, which are quite expensive. Not to mention, I could take this Z, or any similar sports car, to a track day and run it off and on all day long. If I took a Tesla I'd get about an hour of performance driving before it was both too hot and too discharged. If I took an Accord the brakes would be toast and I would probably be nauseous from the angular momentum of the body roll. Anything can become a performance vehicle, but what makes a car sporty and enjoyable isn't just power and speed. My most enjoyable car to drive over the last 25 years was a 91 240sx that had an LSD-swapped rear diff. Even after tuning it only made like 175Whp, but I could track that thing all day and never be dissatisfied. The Model 3 I tracked at an event in Atlanta on the other hand was fun for the first 10 minutes and then quickly became exhausting and disappointing when the battery started getting hot so it pulled power and the brakes became soggy sponges. It's all just perception, but for me, enjoyment in driving comes from the entire experience, not just the butterflies from acceleration.
People are obsessed with straight line speed and not as much taking corners as fast as possible. This mentality might change as F1 gains viewership in the states.
That's why I still have my AP2 S2K. Not the fastest but the best driving experience when your in a back road going through the gear with the top down. In my opinion on the last pure driver's car Honda made.
Mark and Jack. Thank you. Your commitment and passion for this RUclips segment and cars is general. Truly speaks to the gear heads out there like nothing else does. This was simply phenomenal.
You all have done an amazing job providing a wholly different experience than other reviews of this car. Always appreciate your thoughts and the work you put into your videos.
Thanks for being the rare "car review" channel that makes content about the cars and isn't just using the cars to fluff their own egos and youtube stats.
The Intro alone gave me goosebumps... This is Top Gear level cinematography, production and interviews.. If I had one wish it would for Goose to go mainstream and make all kinds of bank doing this.. just amazing work team SG.
It's so nice to see a video where the creators are on board to share the story with you. The results of that cooperation and all the skill and work you put into these videos creates something really special.
Nissan did a great job on this "Z". They took the old bones of the old 350/370 and improved everything. Power, low end torque, steering, rear differential, and of course styling. Offered it from the beginning with a manual and a better front suspension than the Supra, at thousands of dollars less. A real winner.
It's going to really be interesting to see if the sales work out. Since Nissan said 40K MSRP base, which is still the 400hp motor, while Supra base is 43K, but with the 4 cylinder and still no stick.
@@sigmaprojects I think it will totally wreck Supra sales. However, Toyota got away fairly cheaply on that project, so it may not matter much. I'm not entirely sold on the Z's retro styling, but think the Supra is just plain ugly and overstyled. At least the Z looks consistently retro.
@@markmiller3279 I think both look pretty good, especially in person. My only gripe about the Supra's styling is that it looks way too close to an Alfa Romeo with its proportions, like if it had the Alfa triangle nose at that pointed area everyone would instantly think it's a new Alfa 8C. I just have a hard time seeing the Japanese DNA. The FT-1 at least had the proportions of a Supra so it was that bit recognizable. Time will tell if Nissan crushes Supra sales.
What an amazing review. Your videos always go above and beyond when it comes to reviewing cars and this is no exception. I've been a fan of Z cars since I was a kid. I currently own a 350z and this may be the video that pushes me to get the new one.
One of the reasons why I love this channel is you guys don't just do basic reviews, you make films. There is an element of art and style that goes even into the shortest of videos. I don't think Nissan or Polyphony Digital could have done a better job. Now I wait to test drive one or get my hands on one. The tail lights remind me so much of the 300ZX and there are so many elements that pay homage to each generation of Z car. As much as I dislike the sound of the VQ series at times, there aren't many cars outside of Porsches you can bang off the rev limiter, manual or auto, that take it and take it gracefully giving you every ounce of thrill you desire. Keep it up guys, keep it up. You sold me for sure. Now to just get my wife onboard but I'm sure she will be once we can test drive one together.
Even as a self-proclaimed Nissan hater, seeing the careful consideration that went into this Z is something that brings me tremendous joy. The world we knew is sunsetting, that is unavoidable. The next generation of driving may be awful, or it may just be wonderful in its own way, only time will tell. But for those of us who have been raised on the feeling of driving a well set up, connected sports car, one where every one of the senses is put to use to precisely move through space, the new Z is a triumph, despite its flaws. A massive congratulations to the engineers and designers that pushed to bring this car to market, especially at a tough time like this at Nissan.
Here's to another few decades of modified Z's making trumpet sounds down the street at 2am.
I hope this trend continues.
Problem is, it is ultimately from a brand that never recovered from the GFC, and is owned by Renault group - which means no matter how good the car is, you have to deal with some of the worst after sales support in the world if you buy one.
I also am glad this came around because I feel like it was partially the reason for the Supra getting a manuel. They don't want to lose all those customers to the z family lols
Nissan sure is flawed now, but they’ve made more affordable drivers cars in their history than just about anyone, even if you think Honda’s or Toyota’s are better.
Nissan hater? Lol I didn't think anyone could have such strong feelings about Nissan let alone hate
The cinematography. The interviews. The technical depth. The history. The editing. Another piece of peak automotive journalism. Well done SG team. Amazing job.
Way underrated and they should be at 5 mil subs.
Could the new 2023 Nissan Z very well be the greatest car ever created in all of automotive history?
@savagegeese has been exceptional as we've watched their growth. True to the mission, always, and consistent in delivery. Love this channel.
I was blown by what I've watched in the past 40 minutes. Still having a hard time believing that I was on RUclips.
I would want to add the two presenters themselves into your list too. I feel like they've grown very accustomed to one another over the years and there's something about the dynamics between the duo that made the presentation entertaining in its own unique way.
We will be on live chat during premiere. This video was created to, tell the design story, engineering changes and try to re-define the launch videos of new cars. This was the combination of well over 3 weeks worth of work to make this video. We continue to hope manufacturers like Nissan find the value in small private outlets like us to out work the corporate media giants.
Honestly can't wait. After the work you guys did on the Miata series I know this will be incredible.
Engineering changes. Lol.
I know that you will deliver a better product than the media giants. They don't care about quality. They don't care about every detail that goes into the development, engineering, and manufacturing of these works of art. They only care about being first. You focus on the details within the art, that the car manufacturers have made.
I am so excited to watch. When y’all do big videos and indef looks I always leave with a greater appreciation for the art of automotive design
We love what you guys do, never stop.
I just don't understand how Doug Demuro gets so much more views than this channel. These guys put so much effort into every videos they make instead of just talking about quirks and features. The cinematography is miles ahead of every other car reviewers on youtube
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Doug is the absolute worst.
Mark & co.: Thank you for the sacrifices you made to bring us a true piece of automotive journalism. This video will stand the rest of time. People will watch this 10 years from now.
Well said.
I still can't believe the production value of the content you guys produce. It is genuinely some of the most well rounded content on RUclips. Awesome.
This video is not well rounded. Its a promo ad for Nissan. Its an insult to call this anything but a sponsored promo ad. This is so against what Savagegeese was as a reviewer. I cannot take what they say serious anymore as they can be bought by the manufactures.
For realz. 10 years ago, they needed one of the biggest broadcasting companies to produce content like this. This channel is just missing that third troll to make the trifecta of the Three Stooges. Subscribe to this channel if you haven't because 572K is a fucking joke for content and production value this good.
@@jimest4602 You must own a Toyota.
@@jimest4602 sounds like your merger didn’t go through. Chin up 👍
And they don’t do it once… they do it constantly! 👏🏽
Thanks for making content for adults and not clickbait for 12 year olds.
Dear Almighty! The cinematography is beyond the tubes level by a mile. Looking forward to the video more than the car.
Not just the video but also the soundtrack
Relax man it is admirable to be honest. I think you’re being a little “extra" right now. Chill
Plus there’s no dealer markup for the video
I thought it was naff. Tone it down guys
If I was a Major Network Executive I would had offered him a contract for a TV show.
Gen X , lover of cars, owner of a 1990's twin turbo 300ZX here. I watched Nissan lose their way and then seeing them return to this, with everything going on means there is a core of hope amongst the soulless, CVT, calculator worshiping company that once made the 240SX, 300ZX , Skyline and others. From a journalistic standpoint I am not sure what other outlets do to compare to the level of enthusiasm, honesty, chemistry and quality of the reviews on savagegeese. I am loving seeing your access and inclusion from the industry grow . It is truly a triumph. My sincerest congratulations to both of you.
Holy hell what an insane production quality, thank you so much for making my days better with your videos, especially this one. By far the best coverage of this car, and I doubt it'll be surpassed until this thing is a classic featured in a documentary.
Had to give a thumbs up the second I saw the interview in the intro. Bar none, BEST coverage of the Z, the cinematography, the music, the stories, the emotions; absolutely hit it out of the park with this one. Can't believe a car review could bring tears to my eyes, absolutely beautiful coverage of the new Z, cheers.
Thank you for appreciating the work and enjoying it. Makes doing videos like this easier to stomach. Hope to continue the trend.
Man i wish I wasn't poor so I could donate to Savageeese
i too received the tears. the opening hit.
@@savagegeese "... easier to stomach." This is work you can be proud of; your consistent message regarding the loss of this sort of vehicle is making me think and I expect I'm not the only one.
Some cars have a soul. Mark even commented on it. The old guard is right. As a 50 year old that has a 350Z and is still making it better year after year there's a lot to be said for the feeling a car provides. Nissan has provided more of everything that matters with this one. This video was awesome.
I am getting sick of car is "fast" culture of showing straightline races and ignoring everything else.
@@savagegeese yes Man yes👍
@@savagegeese 'speed' isn't everything. The car has to talk to you, the driver.
@@savagegeese amen
I'm retired 69 enjoying my 2006 sti w/spt add ons. Before that had the 98 Honda prelude.
I don't think I've ever seen such a honest, down to earth, and relaxed car designer interview before. Usually it's full of marketing term bs and art college terms being thrown around by some designer refusing to get off his high horsy
I agree I've seen Alfonso in other interviews and he has always seemed like a normal guy.
I want to see Bmw designers put on the spot like this. I doubt we would hear much of art or emotion
Just because someone uses design terms doesn't mean they are arrogant
Production value: 11/10
Seriously.
the quality we get on this youtube channel is next level.
Gents, this video feels like a level up for you. The previous videos have built to this, but something about this one feels like it's broken through to a new level. Well done, and thank you.
I love that this guy from Nissan is talking about the dissatisfaction about the supra not having a manual transmission. People who want sports cars generally prefer manuals. I'm glad someone is listening
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HUGE PROPS to NISSAN for not killing off the Z and continuing the legacy. This new Z has so much history behind it. I mean just look at it. It has all generations mixed in to a new modern package. Has a manual transmission and a gas powered engine. Get them while you can. This car is a classic in the making👍😎
Its beautiful but for sure going to get marked up by dealers 😒
@@JGL98 like every other vehicle right now. It's ridiculous 🙄
Definitely not a classic, it’s incredibly boring in its lines and oddly convoluted in its details. It’s basically yet another dull sports coupe, despite its numbers. Too much content, oversized on the outside, cramped on the inside. Odd how the designers feel they’ve created something beautiful.
@@mr.butterworth They never said it was perfect rather almost perfect. These type of cars are being replaced by boring and very ugly electric vehicles. If your not a fan of the Z and it's history i can understand your point other than that? Nothing to complain about.
@@theeppychronicles you need to watch more videos on this car. A concerning point is the movement of the manual Z stick shift during acceleration. That was a major problem of my 370z Nismo. I had to redo all the rear diff and subframe bushings a long with a brace and the noise from the rear was loud.
This is no longer just a car RUclips channel, this is art at display Mark, congratulations and well done. Beautiful, and you give us this for free, you should produce for Top Gear, then they actually might recover what they lost after the departure of their three stars. Very impressed by this video...
Thanks for the kind words. We really bust our ass on this one
@@jackholmes8105 You guys so thoroughly deserve the praise. Your hard work is showing and it is very impressive what you pulled off with this video. Congrats and thank you so very much for this piece of 🖼 God bless from Norway.
@@jackholmes8105 Jack, I remember when you first started on Savagegeese's channel. The growth since then is as mind-boggling as the fact that that the turbos can spin as much as 3,750 revolutions per second!
You guys crushed it on this video! The cinematography, the details and interviews were top notch. This is the pinnacle of the channel so far, and can’t wait to see what comes next.
You can't keep topping yourself like this SG. This was incredible.
I love hearing the engineering/design/business side of the process, and how Nissan's internal culture played into it. Love you guys!
THE BEST coverage/story telling of this new car in all the internets! You guys rock! No other youtuber or journalist or whoever covered this car this well. The effort you guys go into to set up the interviews and get the stories is well worth it. You may not be the first to release a video (something the others strive for) but you are the only channel that counts! Thank you!
Loved the interview with the designers/engineers and how you tied back into it at the end, mentioning how they’ve experienced the definition of “sports car” changing over time. It’s a fantastic point to make, and gives your film an emotional component that all the other reviews lack. The new Z seems like it will be a legend and I can’t wait to see more content on this.
The definition of “sports car” doesn’t change however. People only pervert the concept, and twist it around ideas that don’t fit that definition, just so they can say “sports car”. Today’s Z is really just a sports coupe - one of many on the market, which dilutes the car greatly. It’s odd how many people think this car is somehow groundbreaking.
@Mr. Butterworth I appreciate the correction. The definition has not changed, but what people are willing to live with has. I am happy to see another Japanese, rear wheel drive coupe (with a stick) on the market, even if it is diluted.
I think the hype around this car is partly due to the Japanese coupe renaissance we're experiencing, and partly because it came from Nissan. It's one of their more exciting products in recent memory.
The production is second to none. A channel created for anyone who loves cars. Thank you
I quit the "quirks and features" and embarked myself into pure car video art and delight. Thanks for being so awesome Savagegeese.
THISSSS is a comment.
What an honor. A better group of guys couldn't have been selected to introduce the Z to North America. It's stupid, but I really teared up. This car, it is a family member for me. First car was a 350z. Dad, when he left, he had a 93 TT. It's going to be fun seeing where this is taken by the community.
Bruh that ain't stupid
As someone who has no strong feelings towards the Z one way or the other, I definitely felt some emotion when they first take the new Z on the track and then pan to the previous Gen Z behind it. Kind of a passing of the torch.
Well done guys. Proved again why you're consistently in my top 3 favorite automotive channels.
Top 3, and they’re not 3 and they’re not 2
You’re in my top 3 too zaddy zygrene
@@user-se4tk2jj8c Regular Car Reviews & 1320 when they do reviews.
..If OP is cool.
@@CarsMeetsBikes 😘
@@user-se4tk2jj8c Throttle House and Carfection
This is the single greatest video on the new Z on the entire internet! Thank you!
As many are here, I am not a Nissan-o-phile but this really highlights what goes into making a timeless car -- well deserving of a timeless film.
This video was absolutely breathtaking. You have some of the greatest cinematography I have ever seen. Mark and Jack, the work you do to not only showcase these vehicles but paint them in an honest light for the everyday individual is so amazing. Being 27 and with certain current financial responsibilities, seeing your videos give me hope to one day be able to buy a true affordable drivers car. Right now the goal is the new 86/brz 😎. Just wanted to say thank you so much for everything you do and wish you both the best!
Once again, a top notch review by the SG team. The level of detail provided in areas where most content creators will gloss over is very impressive. This video taught me a lot about what has gone into the new Z and I have a greater appreciation for the car now. Thank you for all of your efforts - they are very appreciated.
Holy crap this looks like a $10k/minute documentary. I'm not sure how you produce such good quality with such regularity and consistent improvement. It would be interesting to see a behind the scenes... a "making of" some of this stuff so we can see just how you pull this off.
Same, I wanna see the footage of Jack unlocking the padlock outside Mark's editing chamber, sliding in an Arby's and getting the hell out of there
Please make this a thing.
@@MJSEN feeding mark is like the beginning of Jurassic Park. "Shoooootttt HErrrrrrrr"
"Welcome to Jurassic Mark" as the orchestra music plays softly on a mid range car audio system that is slightly bass heavy according to the sound engineer.
This isn’t a video this is a love letter to car enthusiasts everywhere. Incredible.
Man what a fantastic video, great work. I have owned a 240z, 280z, 300z, 300 turbo, 2x 300 twin turbos then life and kids took over. This car might be my next Z. What a great history and tribute video this was, sure made me smile.
It annoys me when people complain that it’s on the same platform as the 370z. Just be happy we are even getting this car! It doesn’t have to be new all the time, you can improve the old stuff. As always fantastic video guys, you deserve so much more recognition.
Ok. I have to say something after watching this. You two work so well together, you two produce such good content that I can only hope you get bigger and achieve the success you want and deserve. Including lots of money! You really do amazing work and you reached a new level with this video. I have never seen anything like this anywhere. Ever. The car is great. Fine. But you two, the hosts, are outstanding. Absolutely amazing work. Congrats.
watch their LFA video from a year or two ago ;]
I’m thrilled you gentlemen were the first journalists to drive the Z in the country. You all deserve this.
The number one car journalism channel on RUclips.
The number one car review media period.
Couldn’t be happier.
Gentlemen, this is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for putting in all this effort and skill to tell these amazing stories. This video was another masterclass.
Quality on Savagegeese videos are second to none. This is the first channel I come to every time I wanna learn about a car. You guys rock.
A lot of people talk about your cinematography (rightfully so) and production quality (rightfully), but man, the way you presented this: the pacing, the story, the build ups.....It's just A+ all around. I never paid any attention to this car before, and now I want to drive one.
I didn’t really care about this car before but now I want to own one!
Usually "Driving Impressions" is my favorite part of your reviews, but telling the story and cinematography take the cake here. And a lesson in double wishbone suspension!
Jack: we're the first journalists in N.A. to drive this car.
...and as a thank you, our production level is over 9000!
We busted our asses on this one.
this is light years ahead in production and content than any other car reviewer on youtube.
not sure why this channel hasn't exploded yet
Mark and Jack are the absolute pinnacle of automotive reviews and filmmaking. Thank you guys for all your hard work.
This is without a doubt the absolute best video review of this car on all of RUclips. Thank you. Please never stop making these videos. You guys are the "goats" of youtube car reviews. Iv watched alot of reviews. Unlike alot of those videos, your videos have soul. Their the most informative and easy to digest videos I'v seen. They are pretty damn entertaining too, Patagonia jackets and all.👍
I didn't want a Z before this video. After seeing the team talk about the work that they've done to it though, and hearing about how much better it is than the 370... Damn I want one so baddd.
This was an incredible video by the way! Your longer segments are always interesting to watch. I love hearing from the development teams and seeing how passionate they are, it really makes cars come alive.
The new Z having a manual definitely helped convince Toyota they needed one as well
Which is silly considering Toyota should have just asked BMW for their manual from the M2.
@@2moke2creen honestly i think its pretty likely BMW didnt wanna give toyota a manual out of fear of losing sales from cars like the m2
@@2moke2creen bmw doesn't even sell a single B58 car with manual in the US anymore. I think they ended up modifying the Z4 4 cyl manual trans from Europe
@@Wolfy400 Makes sense and is even more aggrevating why Toyota let BMW screw them.
@@papa_pt either that or maybe from 340i. 340i trans might make more sense since it's built for the B58.
I saw this video alongside Demuro’s Z video on my feed, and went straight to this. And I don’t regret it.
I have never commented on a video but I can’t let this pass. What an amazing and professional production. I couldn’t afford a 240Z when they came out, and did an early preorder of the Z. Your review has me salivating! One of your final comments made me question - can you name an expensive sports car that is less fun to drive?
Did you eventually get your z?
@@mikewaite3746 Assuming he is in Canada (there were no pre orders in US), no. Only 2 people have gotten their Z in Canada yet. I'm also waiting for my pre order. Good chance it arrives in the next month or two
What a joy that must have been to drive. Hats off to Nissan for having the guts to do this. And the beauty of this video. Absolutely superb piece of work, both car and the review.
This video is off the chain….This is the best video you have ever produced. This was giving me chills throughout and I’m not even a Nissan fan. This video should win an award!!!
This was more than just a “you tube video”, it felt more like a full blown documentary and was amazing. Brilliant work👍
This review was exactly what everyone needed to hear/see. Yes it's the old chassis, but that's okay. It's a driver's car, something that is dying. Way to go Nissan & SavageGeese.
So why do people watch Doug Demuro when this channel exists? The level of effort and care put into these videos is on another level
22:00. Thanks for pointing out the external slave cylinder! The 370Z’s concentric slave cylinders were a costly issue for a lot of owners.
THIS. This video is what other car channels should be striving for their quality. The cinematography, the interviews, the specs, the discussion of what this car is striving for are all so perfectly done. You gents never disappoints, and I'm embarassed to say that I'm getting emotional watching this video, knowing this car might be the last of its kind to grace the car culture.
Thank you Nissan for still making a relatively affordable, rear wheel drive sports car with an internal combustion engine and manual transmission. That music at 27:12 made me sad, it reminded me how the days for cars like this are numbered. And they'll be gone within the next 10 years, so you gotta live in the present and enjoy each shift. Bravo guys, what a video!
@Null I'm fine with them. You?
This is the best Savage video ever made. Period. I will be looking back on this video 5, 10, even 15 years from now and remember how good it was.
Incredible production
Mark and Jack killed it once again. Bringing the story of the new Z to life in a beautiful way. I hope this car sells big time to show manufacturers that people still want soul in their sports cars.
I love this so much. Hearing the designers talk so candidly about their triumphs and failures is really wonderful. Unlike everything else you get from most of these interviews from other manufactures that feel very staged and scripted, this feels so natural and genuine. This further makes me realize just how incredible this channel is. You all truly are revolutionizing the automotive journalism space with videos like these. Incredible job, guys.
Couldn't agree more 👏🏽
By far my favorite RUclips car channel! You continue to raise the bar with cinematography, sound, and visuals. I love how you breakdown the history and show the passion for what car manufacturers still do for us diehards. I look forward to more videos like this. You guys do the best job detailing the mechanical aspects of the cars you review. I appreciate the good, the bad, and the ugly perspectives. Plus I dig the sense of humor and entertainment you provide along the way. You should think about “on the road series” of some private owner reviews where you get to drive and share the passion of your viewers as well. By far you would to the best job in showcasing not only cars provided to you by manufacturers but also car enthusiasts and collectors. Great job! Look forward to the next one.
Jesus Christ this channel needs a Netflix deal, amazing video as always
Geez Nissan owes you guys big time for this video. What a flipping masterpiece/encyclopedia/documentary!
Fantastic cinematography and editing as always. This video will forever be relevant, depicting what to expect with this Z
Mr. Geese and Jack are truly in their element here; wonderful breakdown of the new Z- with the good, bad, and indifferent.
Man, the nissan documentaries and the lexus lfa doc have been SO DAMN GOOD. The ammount of effort and passion you put into these videos never goes unnoticed, from the camera work to the sound editing. Talking to the engineers also makes me happy as an engineer myself. Youre a legend
That intro and prologue was...just....breathtaking. Wow.
One of your best videos yet. No one on RUclips even comes close to your level of production and quality of content. Hats off.
Very well done. As the owner of a Z, I really appreciate this documentary.
Cannot wait to drive the new iteration. Such a great car throughout its history.
Yeah
Thank you Mark and Jack for the incredible work you put out into the automotive universe. Your short films (Z, GT3, Lexus V8s/LFA, etc) will be a reference point for generations of enthusiasts
Kudos to the designer for making the car look great AND complying with the request to have some retro elements.
Thank you good lord for having put me on this earth during the golden age of the automobile and these closing days of its existence.
This video shouldn't be free to watch. Just unbelievable quality of production and auto journalism. Thank you SG!
PUMPED FOR THIS! well done as always gents!
I haven't even gotten a third of the way through and I have to thank you for having an intelligent, articulate, yet aesthetically pleasing video. I watched another channel's review and after hearing the word nice for the 18th time... pretty sure I heard the word delightful, too 😄... I have no doubt that you will provide a thoughtful and informative video for grown ups. kudos!
I watched all the early reviews last night knowing they wouldn't even come close to answering all the questions that Savagegeese would. Boy was I right. This channel is unbeatable. Impeccable work as always, boys.
I hit I-75 north of Tampa in my 370Z for a celebratory run today, in honor of this fantastic video. All hail glorious Nissan and thanks guys! 48,000 miles on the 370 so far. Drinks 1/8 quart of Redline 5W40 every 5,000 miles. Zero issues.
You guys have knocked this video out of the park. Bravo. I bought a 370Z figuring it wasn't worth waiting, I stand by that decision, and I'm really not that interested in the Z as a result. But hearing how Nissan's old guard have tamed some of the rough edges from the 370Z and put so much love into this car as part of a lifelong journey warms my heart and tickles my engineering gland at the same time. I wish it every success as a true driver's car.
So far this is the only review I've watched of the Z, and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Wonderful video, thank you
I absolutely loved this. The type of film that gives a true car guy a little tear at the end. Thank you.
As a long time z33 owner, this made me very sentimental. Fantastic content, savagegeese is definitely a channel that is under appreciated in the automotive industry. This video was a slap to my wrist, almost pulling a trigger on one of these ‘cultural-must’ new EVs.
I skipped my therapy appointment for this. Worth it.
Level of production quality on this channel puts everyone else in the space on RUclips (and most creators full stop) to shame.
I loved the conclusion. So many have confused the definition of a sports car with 60 and 1/4 mile times, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Where do you go with sports cars when EVs can decimate everything, or a 2L Accord can gap most "sporty" cars? You have to lean into what made sports cars great, which is the connection and the experience. It's taking it down a country road on a Sunday afternoon and just enjoying the drive, not worrying about how fast you get from red light to red light on a strip. It's not always about pure speed and I hate that we've gotten so far away from that.
But if those other cars offer that and better performance why would I go for less?
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Well, Miele vacuums offer everything a Dyson does with better performance, why doesn't everyone just by Miele vacuums? Just because something is technically better doesn't make it more desirable. Low to mid-range EVs like the model 3 or the base Mustang offer great straight line speed and good range, but sacrifice handling dynamics and performance. If you want to have brakes big enough that they don't overheat and fade after a couple hard stops or suspension that doesn't body roll over 5 degrees in a sharp corner, than you're gonna have to shell out for the performance variants, which are quite expensive.
Not to mention, I could take this Z, or any similar sports car, to a track day and run it off and on all day long. If I took a Tesla I'd get about an hour of performance driving before it was both too hot and too discharged. If I took an Accord the brakes would be toast and I would probably be nauseous from the angular momentum of the body roll.
Anything can become a performance vehicle, but what makes a car sporty and enjoyable isn't just power and speed. My most enjoyable car to drive over the last 25 years was a 91 240sx that had an LSD-swapped rear diff. Even after tuning it only made like 175Whp, but I could track that thing all day and never be dissatisfied. The Model 3 I tracked at an event in Atlanta on the other hand was fun for the first 10 minutes and then quickly became exhausting and disappointing when the battery started getting hot so it pulled power and the brakes became soggy sponges. It's all just perception, but for me, enjoyment in driving comes from the entire experience, not just the butterflies from acceleration.
People are obsessed with straight line speed and not as much taking corners as fast as possible. This mentality might change as F1 gains viewership in the states.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I enjoy a quick car but certain power levels is just overkill.
That's why I still have my AP2 S2K. Not the fastest but the best driving experience when your in a back road going through the gear with the top down. In my opinion on the last pure driver's car Honda made.
Mark and Jack. Thank you. Your commitment and passion for this RUclips segment and cars is general. Truly speaks to the gear heads out there like nothing else does. This was simply phenomenal.
You all have done an amazing job providing a wholly different experience than other reviews of this car. Always appreciate your thoughts and the work you put into your videos.
this is kind of video that you want/can see on short documentary movies festivals. a masterpiece.
Thanks for being the rare "car review" channel that makes content about the cars and isn't just using the cars to fluff their own egos and youtube stats.
The Intro alone gave me goosebumps... This is Top Gear level cinematography, production and interviews.. If I had one wish it would for Goose to go mainstream and make all kinds of bank doing this.. just amazing work team SG.
It's so nice to see a video where the creators are on board to share the story with you. The results of that cooperation and all the skill and work you put into these videos creates something really special.
As a GT86 owner, I truly believe the Japanese car community lives on with cars like Z, GR, and probably SI
The best Japanese sport car: GTR
@@jmmch3358 NO
Rip STI
And the integra, which is controversial. But if it drives anything like the new Si it’s gonna be a good car if you ignore the integra name.
CTR for the win.
what an absolutely beautiful video, guys. the only thing missing was mark spewing out the window in slomo on that last track shot.
Why the shit do you guys only have 573k subscribers
you should be at least 5M with this quality
Goddamn 10/10 video, very pristine.
Nissan did a great job on this "Z". They took the old bones of the old 350/370 and improved everything. Power, low end torque, steering, rear differential, and of course styling. Offered it from the beginning with a manual and a better front suspension than the Supra, at thousands of dollars less. A real winner.
It's going to really be interesting to see if the sales work out. Since Nissan said 40K MSRP base, which is still the 400hp motor, while Supra base is 43K, but with the 4 cylinder and still no stick.
@@sigmaprojects I think it will totally wreck Supra sales. However, Toyota got away fairly cheaply on that project, so it may not matter much. I'm not entirely sold on the Z's retro styling, but think the Supra is just plain ugly and overstyled. At least the Z looks consistently retro.
@@markmiller3279 I think both look pretty good, especially in person. My only gripe about the Supra's styling is that it looks way too close to an Alfa Romeo with its proportions, like if it had the Alfa triangle nose at that pointed area everyone would instantly think it's a new Alfa 8C. I just have a hard time seeing the Japanese DNA. The FT-1 at least had the proportions of a Supra so it was that bit recognizable.
Time will tell if Nissan crushes Supra sales.
What an amazing review. Your videos always go above and beyond when it comes to reviewing cars and this is no exception. I've been a fan of Z cars since I was a kid. I currently own a 350z and this may be the video that pushes me to get the new one.
Thanks for the kind words and donation. The new z all things considered is a very good car. If you love your 350 this imo improves on what the z is.
Excited for this car, could be one of the last greats of the tuner era
Amen bro!💯
Doesn't have to be......Isn't this a democracy? The people like cars like this. Why would it stop? Sorry man made climate change is not real. LGB
Could not agree more!
I hope the EV fad passes.
@@C.I... It hasn't even begun lol
Published moments before Doug DeMuro. Guess which 30min video I am going to watch and get the most out of? Love you guys, keep it up.
One of the reasons why I love this channel is you guys don't just do basic reviews, you make films. There is an element of art and style that goes even into the shortest of videos. I don't think Nissan or Polyphony Digital could have done a better job. Now I wait to test drive one or get my hands on one. The tail lights remind me so much of the 300ZX and there are so many elements that pay homage to each generation of Z car. As much as I dislike the sound of the VQ series at times, there aren't many cars outside of Porsches you can bang off the rev limiter, manual or auto, that take it and take it gracefully giving you every ounce of thrill you desire. Keep it up guys, keep it up. You sold me for sure. Now to just get my wife onboard but I'm sure she will be once we can test drive one together.