I’m continually amazed by the cinematography of these shows. Jason getting out of the car at the end of the drag race is pure theater and genius. And who doesn’t love cheap speed. I’ve had half of these as rental cars and honestly they’re lovely.
@@babisotonggg Yup. My guess is from fastest to slowest. Elantra N, GR86, Ecoboost, Mini, GTI, WRX, mazda3 Turbo. The mid pack would be pretty close in times and any of them could switch places with eachother, The Mazda is a great car but not much of a track car.
The production values on these videos are top notch. Absolutely unparalleled. And Jason has outdone himself again. The shot where he steps out of the Elantra during the quarter mile to do a walk and talk as the car continues down the drag strip is jaw-dropping and entertaining. Excellent Stuff!
I bought a used 500 Abarth just before the pandemic when used car prices were sane for exactly this reason. It was the best fun to dollar ratio I could find.
Thank you for the tribute to Mike. I personally knew him; he was also a member of the Ohio Valley Region PCA. He was a proper petrolhead and Porschephile, and he was one of the most kind, caring and generous individuals I’ve ever come to know. Not only have his products saved us enthusiasts and motorists, but he gave so much back to the community here in Cincinnati. RIP Mike, you will be missed.
As a WRX owner, thank you for getting the launch down. It is not easy to replicate that. Also, that Elantra N is seriously impressive for its price range
Currently own a garage kept 2016 Mustang GT with a dealer installed Roush Phase 2 supercharger (727 HP), and having owned 2 WRXs (2002 and 2013), I am still amazed at how technological advances get these 4 cylinder cars into what was muscle car territory 20 years ago.
@@PocketDrummer Nah videos like these are a testament to how overrated AWD is. They were unable to overcome the parasitic power loss in a drag race (the one thing awd cars are good at). Put these cars on a curvy track and that gap between the wrx and the elantra/mustang gets a lot bigger.
@@nerdneckbrodski731 I almost bought one, even considering how bad Hyundai engines are at higher mileage. I didn’t buy it because I have yet to find a Hyundai dealer I would buy from. Honda dealers are better somehow, and I really don’t like Honda dealers.
I have a soft spot for the mazda3 but in every comparison video i've seen it underperforms. Even with all that torque I can't help but think its the transmission and gearing ratio that lets it down. Awesome video as always!
@@paulblack9878 Same, exactly. Even with the turbo, I think Mazda is trying to make it more a budget luxury car than a hot hatch unfortunately. I do think its interior beats every other car here, and exterior every car but the mustang. (Although I am very biased)
@octogintillion ya, the interior and a few other things are probably better. It's more sport luxory than sport. Gotta make tradeoffs to keep it in that price range. They probably decided they couldn't compete with a really cheap/reliable car like the corolla and couldn't make it sportier than say a mustang so their trying to create their own sport luxory at a lower price. Even if its not super fast like it. Has a bit of everything for 33k, fancy, fast and reliable.
@@octogintillion They absolutely are. I love Mazda but their brand direction is caught in a weird duality of trying to have the best driving vehicle in each segment but also not committing to making a performance car apart from the Miata, and defining a Miata as that is a bit of a stretch.
@@lectorj gentle pushback, the starting point of both Mazda3 and Toyota Corolla are within $1,500 of each other MSRP, with the Mazdas naturally aspirated 2.5 making a good bunch more power than Corolla. It's just their range includes another half step up performance wise with the turbo model. Just not a full step to the gr Corolla/ Honda Civic type r/wrx. But like was covered, I do enjoy my interior when I'm stuck in traffic, And it's not like you can go 95 mph through the twisty mountain roads around me anyway. And if you care about things like blind spot monitoring Mazda has more of those standard than Toyota.
This channel has the best video editor on RUclips. Whoever else is involved in putting these together, you are all doing an incredible job. It’s like watching a marvel movie
The problem is I don't have the discipline to walk into a Ford dealer and say "yes, I want the 4 banger with the base interior." I'm leaving with a 5.0, stupidly bloated interior and a staggering monthly payment for the next 72 months.
This edit was INSANE guys …. hopping out of the Elantra N while still in a drag race was just max flex mode by your editors. Great work as always Hagerty! Now put the RCF up against that Mustang, I’d love to see that matchup.
Jason is the reason I bought a GR86, and I absolutely love it. Really hope you got DTS some seat time in that car, I can't believe he hasn't driven one!
I'll take the GR86 just like Jason. Pure driving experience, no turbos, no automatic, FR layout, attainable lightweight sports car, what more do you want.
I test drove it. It is great but needs a touch more power. Even if it just had variable valve timing for a different cam setup it would have made a difference. I couldn't drop my hard earned cash for an engine so boring. A turbo would be perfect.
agreed... in reality most guys will not launch their cars like that many times throughout ownership. having the best balanced car will give more smiles per mile
@@calvinallan2208 the funny part is the stang wouldn't hang if it didn't have the highest power rating, 10-speed auto and the upgraded tire package. All that, yet the mustang would be called a "Sports car." Hyundai is just really making some waves since the Japanese counterparts sort of gave up on fun and affordable cars.
Crazy how the Mini was quirky and fun in the 2000s and now it's become boring and bloated. Just look at it next to these cars at 1:19, it's anything but miniature.
10:36 - The Mazda 3 appears to not be in sport mode - and yes it actually makes a pretty significant difference in this car. The shift points are much more aggressive and it stays in the powerband a lot better. Could probably cut a few tenths of a second if it was in the right mode. in some other drag races here on RUclips, the 3 Turbo sometimes beats the WRX and Golf R in the right conditions. It's just harder to unlock the potential because of all the tech and a relatively clumsy old transmission standing in the way.
That is what I thought too. I've seen several reviews of the Mazda 3 where the reviewer apparently didn't know about sport mode and complained that it felt sluggish. I almost yell at the screen "turn on sport mode!". I wasn't expecting it to do super well, but the torque and AWD should have given it a better start off the line.
@@tellyawhatmate it is a soft box, but that's a good thing. Not for the driving enthusiast but for the daily driver. The Mazda3 is actually pretty excellent at everything except the track stuff and it's one of the best non-ZF gearboxes out there. They drive really well and still give some feedback despite having really softened up for this current generation. That said, I really do wish they had a more 'pure' spec of the 3, with a manual mated to their turbo and AWD driveline.
The times are set after several instrumented tries, before the shots for camera are recorded. Don't trust what you see on the screen to be the exact way they got the times. I'm sure they put every car in the best possible mode. The times they got here are better than advertised by Mazda, and consistent with other publications; even when other testers got slightly better times, it wouldn't have changed the placement in the leaderboard here.
I traded in my ‘21 Mazda 3 Turbo hatch just over a week ago for a ‘24 CT4 V Blackwing. The 3 was a great daily hatch, and given this line up and results, I’d still pick it again. It was the best mix of good enough performance with the closest to luxury interior in the segment. It’s only let down was the transmission, it’s geared to be smoother and give the illusion of a larger engine, so it’s not very sporty despite its engine’s numbers. If Mazda had a manual that could handle the torque, it would completely change the demeanor of the car.
A tune CHANGES THE ENTIRETY of these cars. It's unfortunate they use the SUV transmission shifting points but good fuel and a tune have shown consistently 50+ WHP gains. That car is a true sleeper with a proper adjustment
@@fakenews4734I agree, but all of these cars make mad power with a tune, the gti will make 370-400whp with a e85 tune and no hardware, and will beat a brand new 5.0. Elantra N similar deal and wrx, I can’t speak for the ford though.
@@markcoopers1930 Yeah they aren’t cheap (the car or house). I do miss the 360 camera of the Mazda 3, I’m worried I’m going to beat up the carbon fiber on this. The 3 is optioned so well, you’ve got a great car until you find a Blackwing for yourself.
What a fun group of cars!! Love them all. I am happy to see the oft-forgotten Mini Cooper S show up and hold its own, even if it is happiest on a twisty road, and it was honestly quicker than I expected. However, I am sad to see that it weighs 300+ lbs more than my 2013. I'll be hanging onto my car and its 6-speed manual transmission for as long as I can, but I am glad to see a fun and relatively affordable group of cars tested here (including some other cars that offer a choice of transmission!). Great video, love the humor as always.
It's also the only one that can do heavy duty tracking out of the factory. It's really a circuit built car which doesn't exist in America no more. This is why Hyundai is so successful overseas with the N series.
The Elantra N is a beast, but it's hard to deny how absurd the EcoBoost is. The loss of the manual in a RWD turbo coupe is sad, but I can't imagine they were making that many sales. The GR86 is always my personal favorite, though. From what I've seen, they're actually a bit underrated in power on paper. 213~ whp average of nearly 40 cars dyno'd with 15% drivetrain loss points to ~250hp crank. Seeing it struggle to match the turbo torque on launch but catch up as it gets rolling makes sense in that case. I'm glad to see naturally aspirated cars keep up with their turbo counterparts. Makes me wish we could've seen the miata in here as well, as they supposedly get pretty similar times to 60 and the quarter mile. Great video as always!
I bet if it had stickier tires, it would have been much closer too. That wheelspin killed it in the launch considering how much lighter it is than the other cars.
Miata would have taken last place but yes they should have put it in here. Edit: Sorry, the Mazda 3 T would have taken last place still given it's issues this day.
@@bearclaw5115 It certainly would have, but would be fun to include it anyway, just to see where it stands. It would have beaten the hypothetical Civic Si that they excluded, but not by a ton.
the elantra N launches pretty poorly stock, its a FWD car vs the RWD EcoBoost, it wheel hops REALLY bad. Swap in stiffer engine mount bushings and you can shave a whole 1 sec on your 0-60, completely removing all wheel hop. Id like to see the comparison vs the EcoBoost then. But at that point its a modified car and you could argue if its a fair comparison or not (speaking from experience as an Elantra N owner, the stiffer bushings where the single best modification I've done to the car, vastly increases engine response and removes all wheel hop, and shaved 1 second off my tested 0-60)
I drive a 21 Mazda 3 turbo awd premium plus. It may not be the fastest in this bunch, but it's quick enough for me. What really sold me was the leather interior, the HUD, the killer sound system, the heated power seats, the soft touch materials everywhere, etc, etc, etc. The cabin is just one sweet-ass place to spend my commute or a long road trip. Anywho, I really like mine.
For the better part of a decade Mazda has been my go to default for suggesting a new car to people. Not the bargain of a Hyundai or the power house in any measure but the interiors are genuinely nice and compared to anyone they are trying the hardest to make a good car.
@@syaieya You nailed it with those two brands. Hyundai's N line, especially the Elantra, has a stranglehold on affordable performance. But Mazda has its own ideas of what a 'great car' is, and they try their best to produce it. Whether experimenting with rotary motors, or bringing back the roadster, or hiding luxury interiors in 'entry-level' hatchbacks!
@@delbertmcfinklestein8576 I do about 99% city driving, only really doing highway miles on road trips, and I get ~20mpg. Yeah, it's definitely not great.
@JoshuaTootell I remember back in the day lotta guys switching out their manuals for automatics with B&M quick shifters. But it was mostly about the street speed and not the driving experience. In lots of daily traffic a manual can get a bit tiring depending on the vehicle but is much more engaging on open roads and one lane hill country.
Kona N here as well. Super fun car. You’ll love the EN. Was the EN in the video octane learned? One thing Hyundai needs to get rid of and give us full boost!
Whoever your TD and FX people are, please make sure they are well appreciated, because these videos (Jason Cammisa as well) are so damn good. The best I've seen on the platform.
3 things - 1) the editing here is outrageously good. 2) the GTI has been out-fun'ed and become the "logical" option 3) So happy these enthusiast cars still exist in the current world of rolling appliances
It really is an impressive machine, especially coming from a company that isn't known for performance. If I wasnt a die hard German fanboy I'd consider one lol!
Except that no one's complaining about a 4 cylinder Mustang 😂 It's the EV the tubes are complaining about. Anyone complaining about a 4 cylinder Mustang has never heard of the SVO.
@@PaulCataldi-e5c this is the dumbest thing i think i have herd... your trading a more power awd better trans better gas milage and reliability for a N...
"Each car is available for under 35.000 USD" I feel scammed here in Europe. The base model Golf GTI, which is build literally just 50 miles from my hometown, starts at 45,655 EUR (47,777 USD), the Ford Mustang at 59,000 EUR (62,779 USD), most others are not available here (probably for emission reasons or other regulations).
I can't believe how quick/fast that 4 banger Mustang is!? Getting mid 20s mpg! 20 years ago, this was close to the Terminators numbers 😳. With the performance pack, some tasty wheels and a tune, i hate to admit it....I'd do it, as much as I love my 5.0 2013 coyote. This is definitely the winner in this group. Nice job Ford!
I have a coyote whipple at around 700hp and a 2022 ecoboost. The weight balance on the ecoboost is amazing and it is quick as hell. It is an amazing daily. On highway i can get 32 mpg.
It gets over 30 on the highway, it's mid-20's around town. My girlfriend has the 2024 Ecoboost Premium Performance pack, and it's legitimately quick and handles like its on rails, bang for the buck truly entertaining.
@@davidzamora212 And ???? That thing corners like a poor man’s Porsche. I own a 24ELANTRAN and drive my dad‘s 911 all the time. Definitely the best package out of the group.
@@brochschumacher1804 "Drive well for a fwd car." And I suppose you think you think it looks better than every other car here? Please tell me you think that lol
@@mattsmith7379 yeah and let this show that in on those other videos the en isn’t octane learned look what happens when it is lol and the DCT is even faster lol
@@LogoYt-gx9uf the GTI's DSG is also faster. But, not faster than the Elantra N As a gti owner, I can absolutely attest to the insufferable and unrelenting traction control system. Ironically, it seems to launch better with all season tires simply because they slip, while the summer tires hop which causes traction control to interrupt more aggressively
For the people that kinda looks down on the 4-banger Mustang, remember this: this 4-pot Ecoboost Mustang is FASTER than a Convertible Mustang GT one Mustang generation before, equal to the previous gen coupe GT's 0-60, and annihilates every older "normal" Mustang variants with nothing left on the table to be debated except for engagement (does not include bespoke tuned editions, or stuff like the Terminator, Cobra R, Shelby GT350 and Shelby GT500 befause of course)
That’s why the only Mustang I have from the G6 family is the EB PP I bought 4/15. I sold to my son to buy a GT PP, then a GT350 and then a GT500 CFTP. I sold them all and then bought back the EB PP and have made it a dedicated track car. Overachiever motor and yes the best handling since it has the least weight over the front tires. Wider wheels/tires, larger intercooler, and added an engine oil cooler as heat mitigation is inadequate for track use otherwise. Not as fast as the 5.0s on the straights, however under braking and cornering… ❤
I used to own a 2016 EB mustang. My best time with the 6R80 , not a PP but with grippy tires /93 octn, 0-60: 5.5 sec , 1/4 mi 13.9 sec at 100.4 mph. Now it is a full second quicker to 60 mph, and a bit over 1/2 sec quicker to the 1/4 mi. Best Ive seen the new EB trap is 103 mph. What an improvement!!
@M4B21S88 'how about the people that own the MT versions of these cars and want to see how they compare, say to a Mustang? etc...' For some reason your reply to me doesn't show up in the comments. My point wasn't an apples to apples comparison, it's that they arbitrarily apply standards/rules at whim, and then ignore them in the next breath. If a car only has an auto tranny, bring it. I never said rule out the Mustang or any other car because they only make an auto version. I said if a car has both transmissions available (and they have access to both) bring them both. Remove the doubt in the audiences mind.
The fact that despite the Elantra N coming in second it was traveling 3 miles faster than the Stang is bananas! Imagine if there was a roll race between the 2?
Weight is weight. Thing is though that 3mph advantage might get smaller when you remove the wheel hoppy launch. This happens alot in drag races where the car that spins up on launch winds up with a higher trap speed and slower ET. They will be close though.(obviously)
I always look forward to Jason Cammisa's videos, and he doesn't disappoint. I won't say that I'd even watch a video of him reading a dictionary, simply because he might consider that a challenge and actually do it. That being said, he's one of my most favorite video presenters.
@@GlitterGuru I'll take a shot at your question. In America they've always given off the image of being slightly quirky, cute or nonconventional. Whether or not it's actually true, they seem to have a little more character than other hot hatches. In the city more kinds of people will drive them anyway who may not fit that image; people who may not really care as much about their cars but just want something smaller. I've had a couple and they always make me happy to drive and be around; people are much nicer to me in my R60 Countryman compared with my old Civic Si.
@@stirfryjedi oh I loved and miss my R56 dearly. I just wanted to know jf there was an image associated with them I didn't know about besides being small and cute 😂
@@GlitterGuru still rocking my 13 clubman… although she’s very modified to be exactly what they were intended to be. I’m extremely disappointed in newer minis. When every other auto manufacturer is upping the power they’ve just decided 225 is enough. 250- 300 is utter perfection with an LSD. R and F series are for nerds… new ones are for dorks.
@@Zierfish The image and the size are two of its strongest points, but yeah, not its not for everyone! Can't really put truck nutz on a Mini. I've had 3 Minis now. Wife says I can't buy any more old Minis haha to much stress in the garage, but fun on the stress. Maybe when the kid is in a forward facing car seat an F56 Cooper S could be in the cards as they have a lot better reliability.
It makes me feel much better about planning to buy a gr86 BUT....I'm getting it in auto LOL. It's going to be a daily for me, I have a motorcycle for weekend fun
@@REAPEROFTOESI daily a second gen brz with a manual about 250k 5 days a week… it’s always a pleasure to drive l… I also ride btw which is why I got into manual cars
@@REAPEROFTOES The Automatic GR86 is noticeably slower than the 6MT GR86 due to having long-ass gear ratios. You'll get some better fuel economy tho LOL
@@dark6c159 I have an EN and am a Toyota fan, and that's funny because I know the GR cars have been catching fires lately while Ns have been around for over 5 years without issues 😅
Great stuff as always- cammisa is my perrenial favorite automotive personality but i'm writing to say it tripped me out at 9:56 seeing the shadow of the drone keeping up with the cars..... Wild times we are in.
@@jonander111it is not related tot hat engine at all. Like please do some quick googling it’s not hard to answer questions these days instead of just say passion blurbs lol
You know what this channel feels like?? As if they took every feedback from automotive videos and took it into concideration, Bam the ultimate perfect content was born‼️
It also amazes me that WRX is not far behind Type R even tho it's not a STi or as powerful as the last gen JDM spec (WRX VAG JDM spec has 296 hp and 400 Nm of torque), please Subaru, please release WRX STi for the VB generation
Excellent production quality as usual, and Jason is always fun to watch. I wasn't surprised by the Mazda, I knew the only-adequate 6-speed auto would doom it before a wheel turned.
@@TxChristopherto be fair, hardly any of these cars can be bought for under 35k. (Maybe the mazda3 only). I guess the benefit of the mustang here is that it’s American built, a more common car vs the others (supply vs demand), thus maybe youll get more incentives from Ford dealers to sell.
@@Mc_Whitty Taxes? In france, because of the "high" CO2 emissions, GR86 would endure a 55000$ tax (you read it right). Of course it's not sold anymore. Stupid politicians.
Check the power on it and the quallity it is not the same...Vw always makes better home cars then around them Ive bought from Austria the doors inside had so much airbags but where the same packet as mine home..I would say thats it ..why you dont have an R model 310 hp and In Europe has it i talk about mk7 model!
100% i missed on the Evo back in 2009 and got an e92 and when i saw the Elantra and heard it knew that i wont be making this mistake so i bought it two weeks back and really impressed. Corolla/Yaris are of GTIs and Golf R
Currently own an evo 8 and a 2025 gr corolla. They are kin to each other virtually in every way. The gr corolla is a true evo successor with it being one of the most raw cars out of the box. Wrx has become way too neutered since 15 MY
@@xninja2369 exactly. for $30k you can get tons of used v8 cars that will probably have more power than a new mustang gt and actually be able to put it down.
@@yimpyoi9808 But you need to super careful , specially with V8 ,you need to check engine , head gasket , look for oil leakage , brake & suspension &, worn out tires see previous repair record and so on.. Because they could be used rough you don't wanna get in problem later .. Me personally I would rather buy used Honda / Miata for daily + Hellcat / corvette for fun . ( If I could buy sadly non of these car brands are available in my country 😭 and import tax is 125%)
It’s in my garage! I daily a 2024 ND3 Miata Club and it was an easy choice for me! I am looking hard at the Mazda3 as a replacement for my wife’s 2012 Honda Accord, which is and has been an amazing car!
I'm always looking forward to a video with Jason. He just gets it to the point and never fails to make me laugh. Plus, he always has Randy in as well. What a legend and yet another nice guy.
@@G_WOLF the Elantra N also either had regular gas in it or wasn’t “octane learned”. It only showed 15 psi turbo on both tests and that car can do 20 with 91/93 gas.
Absolutely love what Hyundai’s been doing since 2018-19 with the introduction of the N Series. Never thought I’d ever become a fan of Hyundai but after almost a year of owning one…. Here I am!
The Mazda was not even on my radar until now. That's a properly understated car, I'm sure with a downpipe, intercooler and tune it would be an absolute riot.
Just so you know, lot of people here in the comments mention less-than-optimal gear ratios for a could-be hothatch. Kinda sad to see it being held back by the transmission. I also like the looks of that car, tho. This exact white + black sometimes parks next to my GTI, when the neighbour finds that spot free 🙂. BTW, chiptuned GTI with proper traction control setting is a whole 'nother beast than what we had here. Emissions compliance hits that car hard.
@Nikko780 ThrottleHouse did a drag race with the mazda3 and they couldn't get consistent results with it. Every other race the ecu would pull timing for some reason or another. I'm wary.
Whoaaa u r getting scammed by ur own country company thinking innocent German will buy it thinking they are patriot 😱.same reason why jeeps and ford are so expensive nowadays nearly over 100 k for a rubicon😂and they wonder why their cars sits on lot for 700 +days. We ain't fool.
I think if you make a this well put together, edited and overall enjoyable show, then it shouldn't be a big hassle to convert the units to metric (like the weight of the vehicle). I know that americans tend to think that there is no one else on this planet than them but still, majority uses metric system.
Yep. I don't want the 'what if' situation. The title is fastest cars you can get for $35,000. Several of them don't have a manual available and yet they are here. Bring manual, auto and DCT versions of cars that have them available. If you can also get a Miata under $35K it should have been here too.
@@lazarushernandez5827Miata has 0 straight line speed but is a wonderful car that I’m sure they didn’t want to embarrass that way and skew the message of the Miata.
@@LafemmebearMusic I get that, but in the same vein Jason is going off on the manual transmission. The GR86 has a similar mission as the Miata, yet it's here.
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Track comparison of these cars👀?
At 6:30 The Toyota GR86 is a NA 2.4L horizontally opposed flat-4, not turbo.
Why are you racing with the AC on? Turn it off
Now make a mustang awd safari to get a 911 dakar on budget please
Was there 93 octane on Mazda 3 Turbo?
I’m continually amazed by the cinematography of these shows. Jason getting out of the car at the end of the drag race is pure theater and genius. And who doesn’t love cheap speed. I’ve had half of these as rental cars and honestly they’re lovely.
Yeah I have to admit they do some of the slickest editing I’ve seen on YT.
Fun vid
And as Clarkson says, nothing faster than a rental car!
@@ChrisJackson36 that because a really big insurance company is paying for the production
Hagerty is def pulling out the big guns :)
@@ChrisJackson36 I was looking for this comment, this video is amazing!!! W editing ✅
IS NOBODY GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW IMPRESSIVE SOME OF THESE SHOTS WERE! The vfx is so good that you almost don’t notice how impressive it is.
It's a Hagerty/Cammisa video - we're all used to how insane their videography is at this point haha
If that’s what you like go watch fast and the furious.
shots were excellent but the humour was miserable
how much are you getting paid ?
@@longsleevethong1457 I've already bought my ticket for when it's released in June 2001
Drag races are cool…but you have a full track. I would love to see track comparisons with these cars!
Oooooo. Absolutely!! That would define the entire performance envelope.
Elantra N might eat all of them for breakfast
@@babisotonggg Yup. My guess is from fastest to slowest. Elantra N, GR86, Ecoboost, Mini, GTI, WRX, mazda3 Turbo. The mid pack would be pretty close in times and any of them could switch places with eachother, The Mazda is a great car but not much of a track car.
The N would spank the field. As impressive as it's acceleration is, it's balance, steering and cornering are it's best attributes.
Wait is this a MJR and Cammisa crossover??!!
Yes!!
The production values on these videos are top notch. Absolutely unparalleled. And Jason has outdone himself again. The shot where he steps out of the Elantra during the quarter mile to do a walk and talk as the car continues down the drag strip is jaw-dropping and entertaining. Excellent Stuff!
12:26
"Fun beats speed" is 100% correct!
I bought a used 500 Abarth just before the pandemic when used car prices were sane for exactly this reason. It was the best fun to dollar ratio I could find.
Teslas are the best representation of this
@@Turbyo not even close
@@Turbyo 🤣🤣 not even Hyundai is superior with their EVs better handling, more sporty. Want better quality? Buy German EV
@@Turbyo They are the antithesis of this.
I was completely unaware that you could still buy a new car for under $35k.
Thing is, you can’t! At least around me
That’s hilarious 😅 But not a pickup truck 😮
You can get new cars for under 20k in the us they just aren't performance cars.
😂😂
yup. Don't be a sheep and listen to the masses.
The production quality is just off the charts. Thank you for giving so many of us car fans something to look forward to.
Thank you for the tribute to Mike. I personally knew him; he was also a member of the Ohio Valley Region PCA. He was a proper petrolhead and Porschephile, and he was one of the most kind, caring and generous individuals I’ve ever come to know. Not only have his products saved us enthusiasts and motorists, but he gave so much back to the community here in Cincinnati. RIP Mike, you will be missed.
As a WRX owner, thank you for getting the launch down. It is not easy to replicate that. Also, that Elantra N is seriously impressive for its price range
Easier after tuned and using launch control
I really wish they'd redesign it (not a fan of the style) and then give it AWD. If they did that, I might seriously consider it for my next car.
Currently own a garage kept 2016 Mustang GT with a dealer installed Roush Phase 2 supercharger (727 HP), and having owned 2 WRXs (2002 and 2013), I am still amazed at how technological advances get these 4 cylinder cars into what was muscle car territory 20 years ago.
@@PocketDrummer Nah videos like these are a testament to how overrated AWD is. They were unable to overcome the parasitic power loss in a drag race (the one thing awd cars are good at). Put these cars on a curvy track and that gap between the wrx and the elantra/mustang gets a lot bigger.
@cameronturnbow8004 then add some snow or rain and the WRX beats them all by miles.
The Mustang going that quickly, and the wild WRX launch puts a smile on my face knowing there are still some cheap thrills to be had.
@@FlyinGato go test drive an Elantra N. You'll be editing that comment
@@nerdneckbrodski731 Agree! I have owned almost all of these at one point and the Elantra is by a mile the most fun you can have for the money.
@@FlyinGato if you want to blow your WRX’s transmission
Keep launching the wrx like that, and I don’t think it’ll be a cheap thrill anymore
@@nerdneckbrodski731 I almost bought one, even considering how bad Hyundai engines are at higher mileage. I didn’t buy it because I have yet to find a Hyundai dealer I would buy from. Honda dealers are better somehow, and I really don’t like Honda dealers.
I have a soft spot for the mazda3 but in every comparison video i've seen it underperforms. Even with all that torque I can't help but think its the transmission and gearing ratio that lets it down. Awesome video as always!
It definitely is. Also, Mazda is probably not completely truthful with the whole more power with premium fuel.
@@paulblack9878 Same, exactly. Even with the turbo, I think Mazda is trying to make it more a budget luxury car than a hot hatch unfortunately. I do think its interior beats every other car here, and exterior every car but the mustang. (Although I am very biased)
@octogintillion ya, the interior and a few other things are probably better. It's more sport luxory than sport. Gotta make tradeoffs to keep it in that price range. They probably decided they couldn't compete with a really cheap/reliable car like the corolla and couldn't make it sportier than say a mustang so their trying to create their own sport luxory at a lower price. Even if its not super fast like it. Has a bit of everything for 33k, fancy, fast and reliable.
@@octogintillion They absolutely are. I love Mazda but their brand direction is caught in a weird duality of trying to have the best driving vehicle in each segment but also not committing to making a performance car apart from the Miata, and defining a Miata as that is a bit of a stretch.
@@lectorj gentle pushback, the starting point of both Mazda3 and Toyota Corolla are within $1,500 of each other MSRP, with the Mazdas naturally aspirated 2.5 making a good bunch more power than Corolla. It's just their range includes another half step up performance wise with the turbo model. Just not a full step to the gr Corolla/ Honda Civic type r/wrx.
But like was covered, I do enjoy my interior when I'm stuck in traffic, And it's not like you can go 95 mph through the twisty mountain roads around me anyway. And if you care about things like blind spot monitoring Mazda has more of those standard than Toyota.
This channel has the best video editor on RUclips. Whoever else is involved in putting these together, you are all doing an incredible job. It’s like watching a marvel movie
The problem is I don't have the discipline to walk into a Ford dealer and say "yes, I want the 4 banger with the base interior." I'm leaving with a 5.0, stupidly bloated interior and a staggering monthly payment for the next 72 months.
hahaha same here (if the mustang and ford still existed where i live)
I'm in the same dilemma
Heck yeah brother
I have never read something more true in my life! Haha
Good. Get the 4 banger with the premium interior then 😂
This is the best edited automobile video I've seen in ages.
Even the reflections on the side of the car while he is walking!
Just blown away!!!
The cars are moving slowly so the effects are done on the cars to make them look like they are driving fast, the blur.
This edit was INSANE guys …. hopping out of the Elantra N while still in a drag race was just max flex mode by your editors.
Great work as always Hagerty!
Now put the RCF up against that Mustang, I’d love to see that matchup.
This^
The best drag racing channel ever. Period ❤🎉
Jason is the reason I bought a GR86, and I absolutely love it. Really hope you got DTS some seat time in that car, I can't believe he hasn't driven one!
I'll take the GR86 just like Jason. Pure driving experience, no turbos, no automatic, FR layout, attainable lightweight sports car, what more do you want.
more power
a roof that goes right back to the bumper and hatchback
power doesn't always make up for driving ability
I test drove it. It is great but needs a touch more power. Even if it just had variable valve timing for a different cam setup it would have made a difference. I couldn't drop my hard earned cash for an engine so boring. A turbo would be perfect.
agreed... in reality most guys will not launch their cars like that many times throughout ownership. having the best balanced car will give more smiles per mile
I see Cammisa, I click the video.
Good for you, thanks for letting us know
GR86 is my pick. It's got the performance, sporty aesthetic and RWD. All the fun in one package!
It's definitely got the aesthetic and rwd, for sure.
Should’ve done a roll race to see if the Elantra N would beat the Stang
I'm doubtful. higher power and 10-speed automatic are huge advantages.
I'm so curious to see how the DCT Elantra would compare
엘란트라 자동 DCT가 더 빠름
It absolutely would have. Higher trap speed indicates the faster vehicle when traction is taken out of the equation.
@@official_commanderhale965 until the 10-speed blows up 🤣🤣🤣
Hyundai did a fantastic job with the Elantra N, it sounds great, it's fast, Great interior, well done hyundai 👌
I like calling my little Forte GT "Baby N" because it's just a slightly smaller engine in a smaller platform but still crazy fun
Imagine buying a Hyundai sportscar 😅 the world has gone mad literally
@calvinallan2208 well, I have only owned audi in my life, but sometimes we have to admit that other brands can also make nice cars
@@calvinallan2208 the funny part is the stang wouldn't hang if it didn't have the highest power rating, 10-speed auto and the upgraded tire package. All that, yet the mustang would be called a "Sports car."
Hyundai is just really making some waves since the Japanese counterparts sort of gave up on fun and affordable cars.
@@calvinallan2208 - What's wrong with it? The name? If so, then the early 2000s is calling you back home, old fart. 😂
I would LOVE to see the comparison between these cars on the track!
It would be elantra N taking the lead
Crazy how the Mini was quirky and fun in the 2000s and now it's become boring and bloated. Just look at it next to these cars at 1:19, it's anything but miniature.
They've made it better in almost every way except for the plain exterior, $$$, and some say too simple interior, JCW is where it's at.
It got fat. It needs to be on that diet gasoline.
@@dg7438 Yeah, it’s weird how they use a Cooper S and not a JCW when all the other cars are at the top of the spec…
@@dg7438 The current MINI is bigger than the earlier versions but as a driver's vehicle the first generation was much better.
Safety reasons that’s why. You are more likely to die in one of those than a modern one.
9:31 The WRX launch is a crime against clutchmanity got me😂😂
10:36 - The Mazda 3 appears to not be in sport mode - and yes it actually makes a pretty significant difference in this car. The shift points are much more aggressive and it stays in the powerband a lot better. Could probably cut a few tenths of a second if it was in the right mode. in some other drag races here on RUclips, the 3 Turbo sometimes beats the WRX and Golf R in the right conditions. It's just harder to unlock the potential because of all the tech and a relatively clumsy old transmission standing in the way.
huge oversight on their end
That is what I thought too. I've seen several reviews of the Mazda 3 where the reviewer apparently didn't know about sport mode and complained that it felt sluggish. I almost yell at the screen "turn on sport mode!". I wasn't expecting it to do super well, but the torque and AWD should have given it a better start off the line.
@@krudmuphinstudioz the gearbox lets it down. Its soft
@@tellyawhatmate it is a soft box, but that's a good thing. Not for the driving enthusiast but for the daily driver. The Mazda3 is actually pretty excellent at everything except the track stuff and it's one of the best non-ZF gearboxes out there. They drive really well and still give some feedback despite having really softened up for this current generation. That said, I really do wish they had a more 'pure' spec of the 3, with a manual mated to their turbo and AWD driveline.
The times are set after several instrumented tries, before the shots for camera are recorded. Don't trust what you see on the screen to be the exact way they got the times. I'm sure they put every car in the best possible mode. The times they got here are better than advertised by Mazda, and consistent with other publications; even when other testers got slightly better times, it wouldn't have changed the placement in the leaderboard here.
I traded in my ‘21 Mazda 3 Turbo hatch just over a week ago for a ‘24 CT4 V Blackwing. The 3 was a great daily hatch, and given this line up and results, I’d still pick it again. It was the best mix of good enough performance with the closest to luxury interior in the segment. It’s only let down was the transmission, it’s geared to be smoother and give the illusion of a larger engine, so it’s not very sporty despite its engine’s numbers. If Mazda had a manual that could handle the torque, it would completely change the demeanor of the car.
I too have been eyeing the ct4 BW as an eventual replacement for my mazda3 turbo.
But house prices don't seem to be coming down....
A tune CHANGES THE ENTIRETY of these cars. It's unfortunate they use the SUV transmission shifting points but good fuel and a tune have shown consistently 50+ WHP gains. That car is a true sleeper with a proper adjustment
@@fakenews4734I agree, but all of these cars make mad power with a tune, the gti will make 370-400whp with a e85 tune and no hardware, and will beat a brand new 5.0. Elantra N similar deal and wrx, I can’t speak for the ford though.
Why downgrade 😮
@@markcoopers1930 Yeah they aren’t cheap (the car or house). I do miss the 360 camera of the Mazda 3, I’m worried I’m going to beat up the carbon fiber on this. The 3 is optioned so well, you’ve got a great car until you find a Blackwing for yourself.
What a fun group of cars!! Love them all. I am happy to see the oft-forgotten Mini Cooper S show up and hold its own, even if it is happiest on a twisty road, and it was honestly quicker than I expected. However, I am sad to see that it weighs 300+ lbs more than my 2013. I'll be hanging onto my car and its 6-speed manual transmission for as long as I can, but I am glad to see a fun and relatively affordable group of cars tested here (including some other cars that offer a choice of transmission!). Great video, love the humor as always.
Damn! That N fast!
It's also the only one that can do heavy duty tracking out of the factory. It's really a circuit built car which doesn't exist in America no more. This is why Hyundai is so successful overseas with the N series.
its way faster than that mustang around the track while being several thousand cheaper
“WHERE?? WHERE??” ~👮♂️
@@Instanturstoppppppppp you're going to make me buy one
@@InstanturHyundai got destroyed 😂😂😂
The Elantra N is a beast, but it's hard to deny how absurd the EcoBoost is. The loss of the manual in a RWD turbo coupe is sad, but I can't imagine they were making that many sales. The GR86 is always my personal favorite, though.
From what I've seen, they're actually a bit underrated in power on paper. 213~ whp average of nearly 40 cars dyno'd with 15% drivetrain loss points to ~250hp crank. Seeing it struggle to match the turbo torque on launch but catch up as it gets rolling makes sense in that case. I'm glad to see naturally aspirated cars keep up with their turbo counterparts. Makes me wish we could've seen the miata in here as well, as they supposedly get pretty similar times to 60 and the quarter mile.
Great video as always!
I bet if it had stickier tires, it would have been much closer too. That wheelspin killed it in the launch considering how much lighter it is than the other cars.
Miata would have taken last place but yes they should have put it in here.
Edit: Sorry, the Mazda 3 T would have taken last place still given it's issues this day.
@@bearclaw5115 It certainly would have, but would be fun to include it anyway, just to see where it stands. It would have beaten the hypothetical Civic Si that they excluded, but not by a ton.
the elantra N launches pretty poorly stock, its a FWD car vs the RWD EcoBoost, it wheel hops REALLY bad. Swap in stiffer engine mount bushings and you can shave a whole 1 sec on your 0-60, completely removing all wheel hop. Id like to see the comparison vs the EcoBoost then. But at that point its a modified car and you could argue if its a fair comparison or not
(speaking from experience as an Elantra N owner, the stiffer bushings where the single best modification I've done to the car, vastly increases engine response and removes all wheel hop, and shaved 1 second off my tested 0-60)
@@chuukoart3869 those N cars are absurd value for the money. I did notice that wheel hop, so what you say makes sense. Really cool cars.
I have a Veloster N and seeing the Elantra N make it all the way to the end puts a smile on my face
They're the spiritual successors to the Fiesta ST... too bad we dont get the i20 N, or I'd have one
@@dre32pittI would love to have the i20n is the states. It's basically a higher quality (even if only slightly higher) fiesta st.
I have a Veloster N as well and had a similar reaction.
@@dre32pittsame with the i30N. I sure wouldn't mind four normal doors.
I have an Elantra N, they are alot of fun!
12:28 that edit is insane 🔥 thought, execution, acting lol all great
I drive a 21 Mazda 3 turbo awd premium plus. It may not be the fastest in this bunch, but it's quick enough for me. What really sold me was the leather interior, the HUD, the killer sound system, the heated power seats, the soft touch materials everywhere, etc, etc, etc. The cabin is just one sweet-ass place to spend my commute or a long road trip. Anywho, I really like mine.
For the better part of a decade Mazda has been my go to default for suggesting a new car to people. Not the bargain of a Hyundai or the power house in any measure but the interiors are genuinely nice and compared to anyone they are trying the hardest to make a good car.
@@syaieyaMazda is affordable luxury honestly. Their interiors and features are top notch, regardless of price! Excellent cars
@@syaieya You nailed it with those two brands. Hyundai's N line, especially the Elantra, has a stranglehold on affordable performance. But Mazda has its own ideas of what a 'great car' is, and they try their best to produce it. Whether experimenting with rotary motors, or bringing back the roadster, or hiding luxury interiors in 'entry-level' hatchbacks!
They are nice driving and have the best interiors in their class. I passed on the Mazda though because the turbo did not deliver on power or mileage.
@@delbertmcfinklestein8576 I do about 99% city driving, only really doing highway miles on road trips, and I get ~20mpg. Yeah, it's definitely not great.
Seeing eco stang zooming with such handsomeness puts a smile on my face, I’m glad there’s still American cheap speed hanging around
But without a manual, it's dead on arrival. Not that I'm shopping.
@@Joseph_yy the only people that buy them are people who can't afford the V8 or women
@@jeremyburleson6329or old people in sunny states 😂
Oh and young people who are still paying off student loans who want a cool car.
@@JoshuaTootellno one bought the manual sadly.
@JoshuaTootell
I remember back in the day lotta guys switching out their manuals for automatics with B&M quick shifters.
But it was mostly about the street speed and not the driving experience.
In lots of daily traffic a manual can get a bit tiring depending on the vehicle but is much more engaging on open roads and one lane hill country.
Here for the Elantra N. Mine arrives in a few months and I can’t wait🥹
You're going to love it
🕶
Hope you love it, I've got a MT 22 and extremely happy with it.
23 Kona N here- you'll love it. With they had a DCT in this video though it prob would have beaten the ecoboost
Kona N here as well. Super fun car. You’ll love the EN. Was the EN in the video octane learned? One thing Hyundai needs to get rid of and give us full boost!
They never used the NGR button either
Whoever your TD and FX people are, please make sure they are well appreciated, because these videos (Jason Cammisa as well) are so damn good. The best I've seen on the platform.
3 things - 1) the editing here is outrageously good. 2) the GTI has been out-fun'ed and become the "logical" option 3) So happy these enthusiast cars still exist in the current world of rolling appliances
I picked the elantra N and i have zero regrets. What a great video!
Course you did car casual
Great car with a great sound. Nice choice.
"in search of new head gaskets" -OMG I DIED
FA engines don't have head gasket issues. This is just a regurgitated, unoriginal, comment
@@1Solaceuh oh somebody has a Subaru
@swype.media-9309 I had an STi, I have a new S3 now
@@swype.media-9309 Ive owned several and thought it was hilarious lol
thats my car whenever I take it to the redline.
My Elantra N puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it... Two years later. Hyundai. Unbeatable for fun.
@@michaeldouaihy7200 How’s it holding up? Any issues?
@abdulmuqeet7665 none at all mate. So good. Just hit 40000km and still going strong.
It really is an impressive machine, especially coming from a company that isn't known for performance. If I wasnt a die hard German fanboy I'd consider one lol!
The EB Stang should be called Ford Probe and people will stop complaining about the 4cyl Stang. It's truly a bargain
4 Banger Stanger is still a good nickname
I told my buddies the same thing. Bring back the Probe or the Escort name. Dodge should've brought the Stealth back as well
@@fastlaneflybynot much sweeter than a black Probe GT back in its day
It would be nice if a manual was still available for the EB. I understand that sales were probably much lower for it.
Except that no one's complaining about a 4 cylinder Mustang 😂
It's the EV the tubes are complaining about. Anyone complaining about a 4 cylinder Mustang has never heard of the SVO.
That Elantra N will be my next car
It's too good of a package to deny
Sold my Golf R and bought a 6MT Elantra N in July. Wonderful car.
Gross
@@yuriteixeira5816 you'll literally get made fun by real car enthusiast. I'm already laughing at you and don't even know you. 🤡
@@PaulCataldi-e5c this is the dumbest thing i think i have herd... your trading a more power awd better trans better gas milage and reliability for a N...
@@itsquiwi8780 No the dumbest thing is your misspelling of "Heard"
Never clicked on a video so fast! Love these guys.
Same
Your videos are amazing. It was so great to watch.
In my opinion, it's not just about the 0 to 100 or quarter mile times... for me, fun is smiles/km.
"Each car is available for under 35.000 USD" I feel scammed here in Europe. The base model Golf GTI, which is build literally just 50 miles from my hometown, starts at 45,655 EUR (47,777 USD), the Ford Mustang at 59,000 EUR (62,779 USD), most others are not available here (probably for emission reasons or other regulations).
@@noplan724 Do you remember, not that far back in time, gti was 15k€ (!) cheaper??
In Greece at least, starting price was something like 29,XXX€..
It’s ok bro your life in Europe is probably better than life in the states. Unless you’re rich then it’s different
Same thing in Spain. Crazy
US price doesn't include tax, unlike german prices.
@@SuperGeronimo999no,,bought gr86 for 31k as quoted
I can't believe how quick/fast that 4 banger Mustang is!? Getting mid 20s mpg! 20 years ago, this was close to the Terminators numbers 😳. With the performance pack, some tasty wheels and a tune, i hate to admit it....I'd do it, as much as I love my 5.0 2013 coyote. This is definitely the winner in this group.
Nice job Ford!
Mid 20’s is good? You can get 30 mpg in a V8 LS1 Corvette. Mid 20s is almost attainable in a V8 pickup truck today.
@SuzukiKid400 sorry I should have clarified that's in strictly urban or city driving. Mid 20s in stop and go. Mid to high 30s, highway.
@@SuzukiKid400 yeah for real. I average 20mpg with my awd 5.7 v8 charger that weighs 4500 lbs.
I have a coyote whipple at around 700hp and a 2022 ecoboost. The weight balance on the ecoboost is amazing and it is quick as hell. It is an amazing daily. On highway i can get 32 mpg.
It gets over 30 on the highway, it's mid-20's around town. My girlfriend has the 2024 Ecoboost Premium Performance pack, and it's legitimately quick and handles like its on rails, bang for the buck truly entertaining.
The elantra looks like the fullest package in this line up
FWD 😂😂
@@davidzamora212 And ???? That thing corners like a poor man’s Porsche. I own a 24ELANTRAN and drive my dad‘s 911 all the time. Definitely the best package out of the group.
@@brochschumacher1804 "Drive well for a fwd car." And I suppose you think you think it looks better than every other car here? Please tell me you think that lol
@@1SolaceCope
I would say the Mustang destroying it states otherwise 😂😂
What an absolute knock out of a video! Jason and Hagerty do it again 🔥
My 2025 EN DCT gets no wheel hop using launch control FYI! Without LC, it gets a few hops for sure.
The manual trans ENs have much worse wheel hop.
Its the more practical out the bunch. 4 doors and a useable backseat. With a dual clutch trans, I'm sure its very quick compared to the manual.
@@Shorty15c4007I own one and it is not practical. It’s on summer tires, tight seats, and very stiff ride.
@@devn3813 Yeah, I'm sure the Mustang would be more comfortable and easier to get 4 people in 😂
@ I didn’t say that
In the first race the Elantra N wasn’t even in the N mode 😂
They probably got it octane learned and didn’t dare touch any buttons afterwards.
@aono335 lol on every other channel the gti beats the elantra N
@@mattsmith7379gti is slow than Elantra N but golf R is faster than Elantra N.
@@mattsmith7379 yeah and let this show that in on those other videos the en isn’t octane learned look what happens when it is lol and the DCT is even faster lol
@@LogoYt-gx9uf the GTI's DSG is also faster. But, not faster than the Elantra N
As a gti owner, I can absolutely attest to the insufferable and unrelenting traction control system. Ironically, it seems to launch better with all season tires simply because they slip, while the summer tires hop which causes traction control to interrupt more aggressively
For the people that kinda looks down on the 4-banger Mustang, remember this: this 4-pot Ecoboost Mustang is FASTER than a Convertible Mustang GT one Mustang generation before, equal to the previous gen coupe GT's 0-60, and annihilates every older "normal" Mustang variants with nothing left on the table to be debated except for engagement (does not include bespoke tuned editions, or stuff like the Terminator, Cobra R, Shelby GT350 and Shelby GT500 befause of course)
That’s why the only Mustang I have from the G6 family is the EB PP I bought 4/15. I sold to my son to buy a GT PP, then a GT350 and then a GT500 CFTP. I sold them all and then bought back the EB PP and have made it a dedicated track car. Overachiever motor and yes the best handling since it has the least weight over the front tires. Wider wheels/tires, larger intercooler, and added an engine oil cooler as heat mitigation is inadequate for track use otherwise. Not as fast as the 5.0s on the straights, however under braking and cornering… ❤
No 4 bangers stangs please 🙏🏾 🤷🏾♀️
And for people like you that think they know it all..😂😂 The Eco Boost Mustangs 2.3L block has its origins from Mazdas L Series block..
@@265justy and what's wrong with that, I ask? You made it sound like that's an issue. An engine's an engine.
Said by a person who likely drives a 10 year old kia@LafemmebearMusic
In a space overflowing with car comparison videos, you guys are a cut above the rest with this incredible writing and cinematography. Fantastic work 👏
I used to own a 2016 EB mustang.
My best time with the 6R80 , not a PP but with grippy tires /93 octn,
0-60: 5.5 sec ,
1/4 mi 13.9 sec at 100.4 mph.
Now it is a full second quicker to 60 mph, and a bit over 1/2 sec quicker to the 1/4 mi. Best Ive seen the new EB trap is 103 mph.
What an improvement!!
@M4B21S88 'how about the people that own the MT versions of these cars and want to see how they compare, say to a Mustang? etc...'
For some reason your reply to me doesn't show up in the comments. My point wasn't an apples to apples comparison, it's that they arbitrarily apply standards/rules at whim, and then ignore them in the next breath.
If a car only has an auto tranny, bring it. I never said rule out the Mustang or any other car because they only make an auto version. I said if a car has both transmissions available (and they have access to both) bring them both.
Remove the doubt in the audiences mind.
I believe the 2016 EB has about 25 less hp than the newest version.
@@montyrainwater5154my 2016 had 310 hp, 320 tq. (93 octane).
2018+ get 350 tq, and a 10R80 transmission. HP hasnt really changed much.
The fact that despite the Elantra N coming in second it was traveling 3 miles faster than the Stang is bananas!
Imagine if there was a roll race between the 2?
@@jonathancolbert6666 also imagine if it was DCT
Weight is weight.
Thing is though that 3mph advantage might get smaller when you remove the wheel hoppy launch. This happens alot in drag races where the car that spins up on launch winds up with a higher trap speed and slower ET. They will be close though.(obviously)
And imagine if there wasn't 0.5sec reaction time difference. Hyundai's launch was awful.
Image of the Mustang has a V8 in it 😂😂😂
@@BruceKent00 that comparison doesn’t make sense
I've never heard of Hagerty outside of RUclips, but they have one hell of a great channel.
Yeah, isn't it kinda bizarre that an insurance company has become one of the best online media sources?
The cinematography and quality of production on this channel is unreal. New favorite car channel.
Wow that eco boost is insanely fast. I did not expect that from the Mustang.
Why not? Most “sports” cars with over 300 HP do mid 4 0-60 and low 13s
@ the weight I guess.
@@19hundoc47even back to the 90s 300hp did low 13s without the advantage of these new automatic transmissions and tire technology we have today.
@@S8ER 90s 300 hp cars didn't generally weigh 3800 lbs.
@@fordgtguy you’re right they were a little lighter. 3400-3500lbs
Cammisamastery! I've always appreciated Jason's insights but the production quality of these Hagerty productions are absolutely fantastic!
I'm actually impressed by the Mini's time. Sure it has a DCT, but its way down on power to still hit 14 seconds.
Same! Maybe under rated! Will look into that.
It must be underrated.
@@mbd501 It's a BMW engine, they're always underrated.
Very surprised by the mini
I always look forward to Jason Cammisa's videos, and he doesn't disappoint. I won't say that I'd even watch a video of him reading a dictionary, simply because he might consider that a challenge and actually do it. That being said, he's one of my most favorite video presenters.
Stronger than expected results for the mini!
@@Zierfishwhat’s the image?
@@GlitterGuru I'll take a shot at your question. In America they've always given off the image of being slightly quirky, cute or nonconventional. Whether or not it's actually true, they seem to have a little more character than other hot hatches. In the city more kinds of people will drive them anyway who may not fit that image; people who may not really care as much about their cars but just want something smaller. I've had a couple and they always make me happy to drive and be around; people are much nicer to me in my R60 Countryman compared with my old Civic Si.
@@stirfryjedi oh I loved and miss my R56 dearly. I just wanted to know jf there was an image associated with them I didn't know about besides being small and cute 😂
@@GlitterGuru still rocking my 13 clubman… although she’s very modified to be exactly what they were intended to be. I’m extremely disappointed in newer minis. When every other auto manufacturer is upping the power they’ve just decided 225 is enough. 250- 300 is utter perfection with an LSD. R and F series are for nerds… new ones are for dorks.
@@Zierfish The image and the size are two of its strongest points, but yeah, not its not for everyone! Can't really put truck nutz on a Mini. I've had 3 Minis now. Wife says I can't buy any more old Minis haha to much stress in the garage, but fun on the stress. Maybe when the kid is in a forward facing car seat an F56 Cooper S could be in the cards as they have a lot better reliability.
Impressed at the GR86 the most being it’s definitely not meant for drag racing
It makes me feel much better about planning to buy a gr86 BUT....I'm getting it in auto LOL. It's going to be a daily for me, I have a motorcycle for weekend fun
@@REAPEROFTOESI daily a second gen brz with a manual about 250k 5 days a week… it’s always a pleasure to drive l… I also ride btw which is why I got into manual cars
@@REAPEROFTOESew motorcycles wrong channel lol jkjk
@@REAPEROFTOES The Automatic GR86 is noticeably slower than the 6MT GR86 due to having long-ass gear ratios. You'll get some better fuel economy tho LOL
@@rusab5166 250k on your odometer? How?
Elantra N stay doing work
they catch fire/
@@Beezy_Builds stays* stay is past tense
@dark6c159 nope, they don't!
@@dark6c159 I have an EN and am a Toyota fan, and that's funny because I know the GR cars have been catching fires lately while Ns have been around for over 5 years without issues 😅
Too bad they're ugly af
Great stuff as always- cammisa is my perrenial favorite automotive personality but i'm writing to say it tripped me out at 9:56 seeing the shadow of the drone keeping up with the cars..... Wild times we are in.
Insane how fast that base Mustang is now! Great video as always.
People hate on the ecoboost because it's not a massive American V8, but it's pretty good bang-for-buck from what I've seen.
@@raydoherty5419 funny that the engine in the mustang is "most likely" the mazdaspeed turbo engine that they aquired the rights for.
@ I get wanting the noise of the V8 but this is a very quick car.
@@jonander111it is not related tot hat engine at all. Like please do some quick googling it’s not hard to answer questions these days instead of just say passion blurbs lol
@@tizodd6no 4 banger stangs 🙏🏾🤷🏾♀️
This is by far the best car content and automotive journalism of our era. You all are the best!
You know what this channel feels like?? As if they took every feedback from automotive videos and took it into concideration, Bam the ultimate perfect content was born‼️
Robert Sanders... you are the man! Amazing work!
It's crazy that a Type R isn't on this list. Shows how crazy the market has gone.
@@MrLense the worst part is Honda's build quality doesn't match its price range, absolutely crazy times we live in
Elantra n is basically 95% of a type R for much less money.
The FL5 is like over 50k CAD and about 55k here in Europe. Absolutely insane.
It also amazes me that WRX is not far behind Type R even tho it's not a STi or as powerful as the last gen JDM spec (WRX VAG JDM spec has 296 hp and 400 Nm of torque), please Subaru, please release WRX STi for the VB generation
That type r is 50k😭
Awesome video, Power to the people's cars😂❤.
Jason you nailed it with this one, for me Hyundai N is still the hero ❤❤❤
Excellent production quality as usual, and Jason is always fun to watch. I wasn't surprised by the Mazda, I knew the only-adequate 6-speed auto would doom it before a wheel turned.
The production quality is amazing
Hyundai Elantra N would win the roll from 30 mph on up
The Hyundai lost, end of story. Had it been the Mustang GT, the Hyundai wouldn't know which way the Mustang went 😂😂😂
@BruceKent00 The Hyundai would walk the Mustang from any roll speed end of story, and the Mustang lost because it is over $35k so it's disqualified.
@TxChristopher the video is about the quarter mile, the Mustang won, the Hyundai went home crying along with all its fangirls like you.
@@TxChristopherto be fair, hardly any of these cars can be bought for under 35k. (Maybe the mazda3 only).
I guess the benefit of the mustang here is that it’s American built, a more common car vs the others (supply vs demand), thus maybe youll get more incentives from Ford dealers to sell.
You can't get any of these cars in Germany for that price. Not even the Golf. Reimported GTIs are cheaper
How is that possible? Are they build in us or something
Im sorry but that is dumb. It shouldn't be cheaper to get a car made in Germany for less when it has to be brought back into the country.
check the prices for GR86 in the Netherlands... Last time I've checked official price was 65k+ eur
@@Mc_Whitty Taxes? In france, because of the "high" CO2 emissions, GR86 would endure a 55000$ tax (you read it right). Of course it's not sold anymore. Stupid politicians.
Check the power on it and the quallity it is not the same...Vw always makes better home cars then around them Ive bought from Austria the doors inside had so much airbags but where the same packet as mine home..I would say thats it ..why you dont have an R model 310 hp and In Europe has it i talk about mk7 model!
Jason is just the best journalist
I think the elantra N is filling the gap of mitsubishi evo. miss the evo
I honestly hadn't thought about it that way, but it kinda is. If they offered the N in AWD, boy, that would be quite a package.
100% i missed on the Evo back in 2009 and got an e92 and when i saw the Elantra and heard it knew that i wont be making this mistake so i bought it two weeks back and really impressed. Corolla/Yaris are of GTIs and Golf R
Currently own an evo 8 and a 2025 gr corolla. They are kin to each other virtually in every way. The gr corolla is a true evo successor with it being one of the most raw cars out of the box. Wrx has become way too neutered since 15 MY
Yeah, no. Very different breeds. The GRolla is closest to a modern Evo.
@@acerimmer8338 agreed.
9:28 I know Jason cringed when he heard himself say “clutchmanity” 😂
I believe the Miata is very close to the BRZ/GR86.
@davepaturno4290 They should have had a MX5 here too.
@autochatter Agreed
The Miata with LSD is $5k+ more than GR86 which puts it over $35k
I loooove you sound tests, you let us hear not only the engine but the starting motor, this is sublime, love your channel
Wow that Ecoboost is quick. And for a few bucks more you can have a Mustang GT. Very impressed with the Ford.
by "a few more bucks" you mean $10,000?
@@yimpyoi9808 right!! Its no longer a “few grand” more.
Or Buy used V8 for same price..
@@xninja2369 exactly. for $30k you can get tons of used v8 cars that will probably have more power than a new mustang gt and actually be able to put it down.
@@yimpyoi9808 But you need to super careful , specially with V8 ,you need to check engine , head gasket , look for oil leakage , brake & suspension &, worn out tires see previous repair record and so on..
Because they could be used rough you don't wanna get in problem later ..
Me personally I would rather buy used Honda / Miata for daily + Hellcat / corvette for fun .
( If I could buy sadly non of these car brands are available in my country 😭 and import tax is 125%)
Hagerty better hold on to Jason Camisa for dear life because he is the only thing keeping this brand relevant
Where is the only sportcar I would buy for under 35k ? Miata !
It’s in my garage! I daily a 2024 ND3 Miata Club and it was an easy choice for me! I am looking hard at the Mazda3 as a replacement for my wife’s 2012 Honda Accord, which is and has been an amazing car!
I'm always looking forward to a video with Jason. He just gets it to the point and never fails to make me laugh. Plus, he always has Randy in as well. What a legend and yet another nice guy.
14:25 - Elantra N would definitely give the mustang a run for its money with a dct
Yea, and give that Ford ecoboost a little tune and the results are the same. Ford built a awesome affordable Mustang that's for sure
@@G_WOLF the Elantra N also either had regular gas in it or wasn’t “octane learned”. It only showed 15 psi turbo on both tests and that car can do 20 with 91/93 gas.
"...heading out in search of new head gaskets" ☠️😂☠️
Crazy an ecoboost mustang is as fast as a mid 2000s super car
Absolutely love what Hyundai’s been doing since 2018-19 with the introduction of the N Series.
Never thought I’d ever become a fan of Hyundai but after almost a year of owning one…. Here I am!
Let's go Hyundai!! Proud owner of an i30 Fastback N line here. No I don't wanna feed a full blown N model
You should, the N is a blast
@Droolboy Elantra N is surprisingly economical at 60mph highway speeds (36mpg) only does 31mpg at 85mph highway though.
LOL that fart sound when shoving Randy back into the mustang 11:25
The Mazda was not even on my radar until now. That's a properly understated car, I'm sure with a downpipe, intercooler and tune it would be an absolute riot.
Just so you know, lot of people here in the comments mention less-than-optimal gear ratios for a could-be hothatch. Kinda sad to see it being held back by the transmission. I also like the looks of that car, tho. This exact white + black sometimes parks next to my GTI, when the neighbour finds that spot free 🙂.
BTW, chiptuned GTI with proper traction control setting is a whole 'nother beast than what we had here. Emissions compliance hits that car hard.
@Nikko780 ThrottleHouse did a drag race with the mazda3 and they couldn't get consistent results with it. Every other race the ecu would pull timing for some reason or another. I'm wary.
Reminded me of the old 80s Car and Driver issues I used to consume when I was growing up. Loved this!
He can definitely convert car fans into car AC's ... beautifully put together piece of art
Air conditioners? anti christ? alternating currents?
12:13 money shot
The price of a new GTI in Germany is $51,000. 1:58
Whoaaa u r getting scammed by ur own country company thinking innocent German will buy it thinking they are patriot 😱.same reason why jeeps and ford are so expensive nowadays nearly over 100 k for a rubicon😂and they wonder why their cars sits on lot for 700 +days. We ain't fool.
prices in north america are posted before tax.
$100 000 в России. Трехлетний с пробегом из Кореи 🌚
My local US dealer had them listed in the mid 40s
Jason, you're one of the best! Love the way you guys present everything. Keep them coming !
I think if you make a this well put together, edited and overall enjoyable show, then it shouldn't be a big hassle to convert the units to metric (like the weight of the vehicle). I know that americans tend to think that there is no one else on this planet than them but still, majority uses metric system.
I wish they would have had DCT and DSG cars too and also done roll races.
Yep. I don't want the 'what if' situation.
The title is fastest cars you can get for $35,000. Several of them don't have a manual available and yet they are here. Bring manual, auto and DCT versions of cars that have them available.
If you can also get a Miata under $35K it should have been here too.
@@lazarushernandez5827Miata has 0 straight line speed but is a wonderful car that I’m sure they didn’t want to embarrass that way and skew the message of the Miata.
@@LafemmebearMusic I get that, but in the same vein Jason is going off on the manual transmission. The GR86 has a similar mission as the Miata, yet it's here.
3:50 race of fart machines😂💀
Great videos! I love the breakdown on what happened and why! Keep 'em comin'!