Lawsuit For Seatbelt Ticket Ended In $200,000
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EDIT: The grade issued to the officer is a means to highlight the fact that the law may be flawed. As I said in the editorial section of this episode, the officer followed the law as it is written, and that alludes to grander problems within Florida's legislation. The real issue here is the language of the law, not the conduct of the officer (in regards to Florida's fleeing statute).
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I would respectfully disagree with your assertion that the law states one must immediately stop. I understand that the case law leans in this direction (at least in fla), but finding a better location has been used (not sure what states) as a successful defense from fleeing charges. The subject also did a pretty good job at communicating that decision.
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*"formerly we suffered from criminals and their crimes, now we suffer from laws and their coward costumed rapist, thug coproach "enforcers"* ..." -
Holds gun in his face and orders him to his knees.
“The reason I’m stopping you today is your seatbelt was undone”
You can't make this stuff up
So many people wouldn't believe it if it wasn't captured on video
If you don’t pull over right way, of course they would pull a gun on you. They don’t know why you’re fleeing. You could be an armed felon. The cop tells him the reason for pulling him over which is what he’s supposed to do. You sound very uneducated.
@@changsterville And you sound like a jackboot thug ..Go live in NJ..You would change your perspective fast.
@@changsterville That's stupid there is no law that says you have to pull over immediately. You are allowed to drive to a place that you aren't obstructing traffic and feel safe. People like you making excuses for bad policing are the reason bad police continues to exist.
Mr. Black gets an A+ for keeping his older car in such great original condition.
You noticed that too? That car was is great condition for as old as it was. I mean dressing that snazzy, gotta have a ride to look good in too.
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I don’t know why I watch these videos, it just gets my blood boiling.
Just watch other clips of cops crying over dead officer that’s always soothing and healing lol. Hating them isn’t a crime yet.
Same but I think everyone should be watching and learning about the huge problem in the US. Also, at first glance at your name I thought it was Mia Khalifa 😂
Same. I realized I have to pace myself and quit when I feel it starting to make my insides heat up.
@@operationlull3742 do you realize how fucked up that is!? Those video's ARE PEOPLE it's not even the same cops from the videos you hate so much! Who the hell raised you to believe it's ok too watch someone mourn AS ENTERTAINMENT! I honestly don't even know what else to say... Do better...
@@JacobJones2148 lol no amount of mockery or laughing at these pigs would equalize the amount of power they have and all the injustices done by these pigs who CHOOSE to be part of a violent enforcement job for the ruling class. Calm down even if I hate these pigs and this country it won’t have an impact on the lives they ruin or the people they beat, kill and rob.
I'm soooo sick of these tyrants saying "get on the ground", "get on your knees" or forcing people down. I'm a tax paying American,politely ask me to place my hands behind my back,in a standing position..FIRST.
If he pulls a gun for a seatbelt charge, I bet he keeps a rocket launcher for red light runners and maybe some C4 for illegal parking.
No, he pulled a gun because the guy wasn't stopping. Not because of the seatbelt.
@@vvrathhps You are right that it wasn't the seat belt, but if driving a couple of unnecessary blocks gets an officer that teed up, I have a few questions about the officers fitness for duty.
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The cop wanted to kill Mr. Black…it was painfully apparent!!
Hey either individual with vision or inability to process thought issues, he pulled the gun because the motorist kept driving for 1 minute with blue lights on. If 1 minute is too much time is disputable but that is the reason... I dont expect you to understand that concept but I do expect you to seek out help.
Cop “You never stopped”
Citizen “Then how the hell are we having this conversation?”
My thoughts when watching this
You never stopped immediately thats is why
@@punchigames1965 so he did stop. Right?
@@punchigames1965 words matter it’s always amazing how when a person says it everyone’s like well he admitted to it. When a cop says something (well you understood what he meant)
I wonder how many Mississippi’s you have to count before it’s fleeing?? I mean, ONE MINUTE gets you a gun to your face! God forbid he turn a corner!
It always blows my mind how quick US cops are to point a gun at someone. It's crazy.
This is ultimately rooted in the fact that almost anyone might be carrying a gun. Cops wouldn't need to be so fearful if we had sensible gun laws.
@@fdm2155 facts
You would too after a few were pointed at YOU/ fired when you stop them
@FDM 215 2nd amendment is reasonable. Everyone has the right to carry. Government shall not infringe on that right.
@@wb1291 The only time a cop should unholster their gun is when there is an imminent lethal threat. The only time they should point their gun at another human being is right before they pull the trigger. The amount of times I've seen US cops pointing their guns at other people willy nilly, when there was no reasonable threat, much less an imminent lethal threat is crazy. There is no excuse for it. If a cop is at the point where they're so terrified from prior experiences that they start pulling out their gun and pointing it at people at unreasonable times, they need to have their badge taken.
The way this officer immediately introduced the word "fleeing" says that this is a tactic they use all the time because they know they can get away with it.
I pray dufour gets it back in spades ... him and the families who trained him to be a RACIST and who joyfully encouraged his behavior. May KARMA strike those he cares about!!
Word are just semantics, you can’t base how someone reacts based on words
@@ellareece4172I don't think the officer was racist he never said anything along the lines of white power.
@@rivernunly1764that’s not the only racism
@@zThaRipper7 you are correct but my argument is when did he say something racist or trying to do anything that "proved" racial superiority
"Sir i pulled you over as you were not wearing a seatbelt and was concerned about your safety which is why i pulled a gun on you" 😑
Ironic right! These psychopaths just don’t see their hypocrisy
The officer tried for over a min to get the guy stop and he didn't. The officer had the gun out incase he tired to get away or attack him
@@MTFL007 It's far easier to judge the officer negatively after the incident. However, as you said, in the moment the unidentified driver was "fleeing" from the police. Fleeing isn't something an innocent person does. That is why the officer expected the worse. i.e. he wouldn't be having dinner with his wife and kids.
Jason G right. Just another example of a video edited which shows the viewer no context; or better yet, edited in a way to better push the narrative they’re wanting. Smh
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging $707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also $717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company is now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.......NOT the victim.
The officer don’t even care about the seat belt, he’s just mad the guy didn’t stop right away. It’s always about control with them.
Wrong. Police have to deduce your future actions by the actions alread witnessed and they do this with great caution for their own safety. It happens quite often that cops get shot at by people who have no reason and the cops know that. So if somebody does not pull over it can mean that they are trying to get away - that can indicate that they might be up to no good. A cop cannot read your mind. Follow the instructions.
That's not the law...@@spackomcspack7103
@@juanld87 yeah. @SpackoMcSpack is most likely a cop. They always act like their inept training supersedes law. I wrote my response in a way that the avg low IQ cop won’t understand.
So true deb, most citizens need to know that cops are just REGULAR men and women off the streets put on the force with no type of training and nor type of understanding of the basic laws.
That is why we see so many videos on yt because it seems the chief in every department in every state don't give a chit about their tyrants knowing the law and just rather have them go wild on innocent citizens as in beat, harass, intimidate and be overly agressive. 🤷🏼♂️
@@spackomcspack7103 Quit sucking the blue kool aid.
This happened to me in the 90s before bodycams & cell phones. I was pulled over a half mile from my house, we lived in the country at the time. There were no other houses for miles. I decided to keep driving until I got home like i mentioned earlier it was approximately a half mile. I turned on my hazard lights & kept my speed steady. The second I turned into my drive, the officer litterally jumped out of his car before it even came to a complete stop. He preceeded on going ballistic he started cussing me calling me names & and saying the only places woman should be aloud was the kitchen & bedroom. Then, he proceeded searching me made me shake out my bra & hold it out so he could see my breast. I was scared to death, horrified & humiliated. He put me in hand cuffs & leaned into my body for like 5 minutes it fealt like a lifetime. He told me repeatably he was arresting me for fleeing & i was going to love, love, jail. I started crying & he told me to dry my tears or he would give me somthing to cry about. I seriously thought he was going to rape & kill me that day.. While he was searching my car my husband & brother pulled up. My brother saw me crying & ask me what happend. My husband ask the officer what happened & if he had a warrant to search my vehicle he told my husband he was not searching & that he was simply retreaving my registration...! To tie this up...! After my husband arrived & started questioning him he decided to let me go with a warning. He unhanscuffed me & left. The next time I saw him was in court when i decided to sue him. After the city lost the lawsuit the officer eventually resigned from the department. I received a settlement for $69,000 after attorney fees ect...! After my ordeal I decided to return to college. I received my Bachelors degree in criminal justice & 9 years later, I received my Masters degree in Psychology with a minor in criminal Psychology...! I didnt drive for 2 years after this ordeal & even when i did start driving again i was terrified eveytime I saw an officer.. Something like this does something to a person. It scares them & takes away their since of security & trust...! Unfortunately not alot has changed since ny ordeal, we now have better technology, but police misconduct is still a major problem to this very day...!!!
Dude Jesus Christ, so sorry that happened to you. Glad you got that settlement though
You know what these types of incidents cause. They cause depression, anxiety at the thought of stepping outside of your front door and great mistrust of all public officers. It happened with me and not a day goes by where I don't think of that interaction. It scars you and is imprinted on your brain.
The PTSD is REAL!! He should be suing for $2million minimum!!
100% TRUTH!!! Thank you for posting that.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!! I can't imagine just being a young black man in the US - never mind that they are a profiled target. This poor, dear young man. Terrified to begin with and then treated as less than human. I cannot pray long enough, hard enough or loud enough for physical retribution for his sake against this vile thing.
When seatbelts laws were first enacted, the government said they would NOT be the sole reason for a traffic stop. That didn't last long. It's now used as revenue enhancement.
In Virginia, a driver cannot be pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. If the driver is not wearing a seatbelt while pulled over for an actual infraction, the seatbelt issue can become a citation.
Failing to wear a seat belt, when it is required by law, is reason for a stop. Turn in your RUclips law degree, you failed.
It's for your own safety.😉 But our children's (the future) buses and city buses don't have seatbelts. You right. A way to generate revenue
@Robert Slackware L.O.L.
Depends on the state. In PA, they must pull you over for a different reason
*pulls out gun*
*puts him in handcuffs*
“The reason I’m stopping you is for not having a seatbelt”
And this RUclips channel gave the cop a B? Cop is a F!
That’s how stupid these people are
The reason they stopped him is Pensacola has to pay for a new jail after they blew the last 1 up with and electric fan placed in the doorway of a natural gas leak.
Shit imagine if he was speeding
Pulled out a gun and detained because he fled from a police officer. The police officer had no idea who the driver was or whether the driver had a weapon stashed within reach of the driver's seat. Innocent people do NOT flee from the police.
This man (councilor) has class. You cant buy that. No matter what actions were done to try to humiliate him, the man came out as a class act. Kudos to you.
The officer pulled a gun on someone he wanted to pull over for not wearing a seat belt and pulling over fast enough!He deserves an F! That is DANGEROUS
Exactly.
Mr. Black tells him he’s a counselor; the response is a semi-shocked “you’re a COUNSELOR?!” Yes, officer, they allow that now in this state.
Maybe by counselor, the cop thought he meant lawyer?
I was hoping that he was a lawyer.
Reminds me of City Slickers: "Yesssss... we're black, AND we're dentists."
@@Fister_of_Muppets ? 🤔
Cop probably thought that "conselor" meant that Mr. Black was an attorney.
As scared as I'm sure he was, I was delighted to see him keep denying the cops permission to conduct any search.
Good for him
Scared for what? Cops were 100% in the right. He should get the ticket for the seat belt and be charged with felony evading.
@@XH442 lmao look, a bootlicker
@@XH442 instead he got an apology with a $200,000 tip. 😮💨
@@factsbykidd4765 You can sue for anything doesn't mean he will win. Felony evading is what it's called when you refuse to pull over for police. GL on him getting a dime.
I feel much safer now that he was arrested for not wearing a seat belt
RIGHT😹🤣😂
Your videos are so well done, and so informative. Thank you so much for the time and hard work these videos must take.
I love the complete insanity and dystopian vibe of pulling a gun on a man, making him get on his knees, handcuffing him and then calmly telling him "Okay sir the reason I pulled you over today was you seemed to not be wearing a seatbelt. Do you have your license, insurance and registration?" It's absurd enough to have happened to Michael Scott on The Office.
gun pulled for fleeing, not seatbelt.
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG 🤣🤣
There is actually something wrong with you.
Be very careful in giving a badge and a gun to somebody who can take your life "legally".
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG 👅 🥾
Pigs will be pigs.
Had a cop pull me over using a bogus "no seatbelt" accusation. I was wearing it the whole time. He said I must have put it on after I pulled over. I gave him my ID and insurance (which he didn't even bother to check) and told him to just write the citation so I could disprove it in court. He asked how I was going to do that because the courts "always take the cop's word". This is when I pointed to the dash cam with the driver view (it was new tech at the time) that had been recording for the last hour. I told him if he tickets me, I'll be admitting it and this conversation into evidence. He gave me back my ID and insurance and told me I was free to go. He didn't even apologize.
I love that story, except for the not apologizing part....
Boom! Ownage. Good job. Waiting for him to bury himself before revealing what REALLY happened.
I just wouldn't mention the dash cam until after he has stood up in Court and sworn on oath that you were not wearing a seat belt. You saved his bacon by telling him about it and he really didn't deserve the favor.
@@c2757 agreed. That would have been awesome lol
Post that if you have it! Put the link in a reply??? :)
This man is so calm. Bet he'd make an excellent counsellor!
I was pulled over for speeding twice and unbuckled my seatbelt to reach in my glovebox to get my registration and insurance since I knew I’d have to give it to the officer. I got an additional ticket both times for “not wearing a seatbelt” when both times I had it on but the officers claimed I wasn’t wearing it since it wasn’t on when they walked up to my car. Both times I told them I just unbuckled it to get my registration and both said, “That’s what everybody says”. After the second time I realized that was a sneaky and trifling tactic they use to give out extra tickets and make more money for the city. So, just a word of advice, keep your seatbelt on through the entire stop.
I don’t blame him for not wanting them to enter his vehicle because you don’t know if they were planting evidence. These are not trust worthy people. 🤷♂️
They could see in it anyways, why didnt he explain why he wasnt comfortable stopping?? Weird
@@andrewchapman5659 I would say he was stressed out and could not think clearly, but this small detail doesn’t take away from the situation as a whole, I think this is troubling. But I do agree, it may have helped but so don’t think these officers really cared
He's at work.
Florida is the state where the cop was caught planting evidence.
@@andrewchapman5659 he did explain if you watched. He said he wanted to stop at a place he felt comfortable and safe
“Get out” “I can’t my seatbelt on” 😂😂
*Understandable, have a nice day.*
@@manuelpatterson8002 That would be the case if the police operated under the law they are supposed to uphold.
Not funny bro
@@jamiewashington1053 it is funny😂😂😂
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Mr. Black, literally said, "let me take my seatbelt off." I'd subpoena the dashcam as well as the bodycam footage.
What is really disturbing to me is that this almost NEVER happens in high income neighborhoods. I have lived in both. When I lived in a low income neighborhood, cops were like nazi militia. Upon moving to higher income neighborhoods, cops are like "your best friend" and you tend to know the one cop by name and have spoken to them a few times, always friendly encounters.
Do you think that might possibly have to do with the level of violent crime and the difference between those two communities in that regard?
I am 2 minutes in and so disgusted by this cop. Pulling him over for a seatbelt infraction and drawing down on him? What the holy hell!
Read the beginning of the article , he fled the seen.
@@patdalager2598 did you not watch the video?
@@QuasiRandomViewer the cop said he drove for 1 minute. The narrator was talking about a different case in which someone drove for 5 minutes.
@@baileywilliams5419 Oops, 5 minutes was from the 7:26 discussion of State vs. Kirer. At 0:53 we are indeed told "Mr. Black continued driving for approximately one minute before pulling over." Thanks for the correction!
@@QuasiRandomViewer yeah its np 👍
This dude must be the best counselor, he’s the most calm person I’ve ever seen
Well done
Ugh this guy is so gentle spirited and didn't deserve this at all!
plus he was at work! lil feller was nervous too
1:00 Does anyone else hear Mr Black state “I got a seatbelt on”. and then reach over to unbuckle the seat belt?
Why then does he get charged for not wearing a seatbelt?
Yeah he reached to unfasten it , you can hear the seatbelt retracting
I did!
it's possible that he fastened the seatbelt after the sirens
@@nonetheless11 lol even if that is true. There is no evidence of that so it's pointless. The law does not and should not work based on assumption.
That’s going to be a disputed fact in the Section 1983 action. It is possible that he was wearing it the entire time and it it is also possible that he buckled it after he saw the sirens. That it is disputed generally helps the reasonable suspicion for the stop to not qualify for a determination of qualified immunity on that particular cause of action (4th Amendment Detainment). However the fleeing statute kind of raises the possibility of qualified immunity or even simply a dismissal on that cause of action since the officer then had reasonable suspicion for the stop and as the statute and litigation of the statute is described in this video that’s going difficult for the plaintiff to challenge a qualified immunity defense. The search of the vehicle is more problematic. Personally I think they should have ticketed him for fleeing and impounded the car and gotten his documents during the inventory. I think the search is the only thing that will survive summary judgment in the sense that was most likely an unlawful search.
I apologize if that’s TMI.
Take away is, always stay remarkably chill and use complete sentences because you are being recorded on their camera and anything you say can use it to be held against them in a court of law!
That COP doesn't deserve being addressed as SIR ?? what a disgraceful so called human being ..
"The reason I'm stopping you today is because you're not wearing a seatbelt. The reason I'm being a jerk about it is you didn't acknowledge my authority and cower before me properly."
Exactly...
So funny as that's exactly what they expect and they get really pissed when you don't acknowledge their authority.
Ironically the video shows the man removing his seatbelt.
On the money
You hit the nail on the head!!!!
"you never stopped" - Yet we are standing here right now.
I thought the same thing when he said that. I really wanted Mr. Black to say "if I never stopped, how are we talking?"
😂🤣😅🤣🤣😂
Same here. You know how police have different definitions for words everyone uses.
I had a state cop threaten to have my car towed for running from them....bear in mind I was pulled over by a city cop at the time. You can imagine how well they took it when I pointed out we wouldn’t be talking if I had ran from them. Naturally I was being “hostile” which became reasonable suspicion to search my car.
Because he isn't having a pedantic argument with an anonymous Internet commenter. He's in police custody after not pulling over for quite a long while. Snarky comments will only harm his cause.
I heard about one case in Florida where a driver slammed on his brakes as soon as a marked police car activated lights and the officer rear-ended the car causing the driver to need medical attention. When it went to court the driver stated that he "only followed the law as written" and was awarded damages for his car and medical.
Cop: "Take off your seatbelt so you can get out of the car so I can arrest you for not wearing a seatbelt."
Mr. Black keep driving for 5 minutes after the sirens is on. There are 5 minute windows to put seatbelt on.
Edit: 1 minutes
@@goodking9799 1 minute
@@goodking9799 in the United States of America, in order to prove someone is guilty, you must have evidence of wrongdoing or a crime occurring. We are not required to prove our innocence to the police and courts. It is their jobs to gather proof and true testimony to prove any one of us guilty of their accusations.
@@goodking9799 you can’t even edit a comment right😂
@@goodking9799 *kept *minute *his *were *were *his
This cop did not deserve a B. He pointed a gun immediately and violated several of his rights
F is cops grade. The city get an F too. Racist cops. Racist Laws.
Yep this guy grads 2 high for the cops. Way 2 high
Audit the audit frequently rates police way too high when they have violated rights like crazy.
Uh… the person refused to stop… that’s not normal…. You people are dumb af really. Totally biased…
you would too if you just pulled a guy over after he didn't stop for the past 5 minutes.
I'm amazed that the driver didn't get killed by the criminals in uniform, as it often is the case.
I got accused of fleeing once. I was 18 or 19, and I got pulled over for speeding. The trooper was driving a mostly unmarked camero back when they drove those.
I drove up beside him thinking that was a nice camero and nothing else. There was traffic all around. He got on my tail and i thought he was going to drive through me. So i was going to get over as soon as i could so he could pass me (thinking this was a regular person in a hurry).
Finally, he sounds his siren and i realize he is a cop/trooper. He didnt have lights on top and the car was mostly unmarked. But he wrote it up like i was trying to flee his camero at 60mph in my sedan.
I always wished i could have asked him in his mind what he thought my plan was to escape his much much faster car while traveling the same speed i had been travelling before. And i also wished i could have asked him why did his car not have lights on top and was barely marked at all? Maybe its design worked. Im much older now but still think about that from time to time and wish i had argued it instead of just paying it. Im sure its the kind of thing i could never have worn then because i was young and he was older so why would a judge have believed me.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the dude literally reached over to remove his seatbealt and said "I got my seatbealt on me" when he was told to step out?
The officers B rating stands for Bastard, or what?
He could have put it on after he saw the cop trying to pull him over. Not saying that’s what happened, just saying lots of people do that.
Stands for B. Itch
if the cop chose to do his initial action and did not call his supervisor he would have been given a D+ most likely. Sometimes just a single action can save a persons career.
@@pauls4522 I think ur right he should get a D+ the+ should be at least 9" or more
If he just left a client, he could be one of those put it on while ya start driving type of people.
"You're a counselor?" Did you hear the surprise in his voice?
He wanted him to say unemployed
He wanted him to say he's a drop out who sells weak ass weed.
Right, “you’re more productive than me?”
@@manuelpatterson8002 lol
The way I the guy is talking, I was surprised to. The dude said "I'm at work" like 100 times. Came off like he was on drugs.
Lesson learned. Pull over immediatlely regardless of safety or any other reasons.
Totally ridiculous situation. Once the cop spoke to the man and saw his reasonable demeanor, they should have let him go. There’s lots of more important stuff they could be doing.
"We need to see your license, registration, and ID."
"Let me go grab it."
"No..."
I had a cop imply I was possibly reaching for a weapon when I TOLD them I was reaching for my ID after they asked me to.
Almost like the entire system is setup to make sure the average person loses.
No seatbelt, drives slowly for 60 seconds
Or
Pulls gun and orders to their knees
*Which ones the criminal again*
You must be thick…. While not stopping, he could have been loading a gun… there are lots of videos of traffic stops where people open fire on the cops.
@@lumpenomewr I've heard better arguements from dying fish, come back when you've got more IQ points then teeth
@@lumpenomewr it’s takes like 3 seconds to load a gun. He could have stopped straight away and still had time to load it
@@lumpenomewr
He won his case
@@lumpenomewr "I'm getting pulled over, better load my gun for the next 60 seconds."(sarcasm)
That was a good one! 🎉🎉🎉
This is so sad. It's freaky when the thin blue line pulls this crap. To arrest and/or put people in these situations for little to no wrongdoing is egregious! It should be a relatively big crime (one with a victim) to arrest someone and put them in a cage, but to put people through these traumatic situations, such as in this situation because the guy didn't pull over fast enough (he wasn't speeding away or trying to evade) is abusing your authority and abusing the grounds for arresting someone.
I was in the UK and the officer walked over to my car, at the lights & simply said....you need to wear your seat belt!! I put it on....off he went!! Simples!!
Yea but if you drove for 1 minute after they put their sirens on in the UK you’re in handcuffs
@@pwners4u not at gun point
@@Juandongduck no but that’s because our police and citizens don’t carry guns, unless the armed police are called for a traffic stop or house raid
I think that the police in the USA have to show that they are working otherwise they will have problems with the boss. This is the only way to explain why so many people are stopped by the police for reasons that are not reasons
@@pwners4u no hour not I've done it many times
So the cop is "concerned" for the guy's safety in not wearing a seatbelt.
Points his gun at the guy.
Oh and he was in fact wearing his seat belt
the seatbelt is the fake concern excuse
the real concern is for "officer safety" so we see a gun, handcuffs and confrontational cop attitude.
That's their dirty excuses 😤 always
Lord Tony Did you watch the video? The gun and handcuffs were for trying to elude the cop - not the seatbelt infraction. In they end they let him off for the eluding charge although under Florida law they could have charged him because it states he must stop immediately.
@@karagi101- I'll have to remember that "immediately" part. The instant the lights and siren go on I'm stomping that brake pedal to the firewall. The car may refuse to stop immediately, skidding a few yards, so I guess I'll get a gun brandished at me anyway.
Al Grayson Yeah, the narrator did point out it’s a stupid Florida law but Florida’s courts have upheld that immediate means stop now (braking distance doesn’t count).
Wait a darn minute! All of this foolery for a seatbelt violation??? The cop is crazy!!!
Glad you got it bro.
I can't stomach this kind treatment, especially over not wearing a seat belt! Police are arseholes for treating people like this!
That's not the reason why the cop was suspicious of him. He drove around for a full minute instead of pulling right over---that would definitely make me weary if I was a cop wondering what he's been doing / hiding in the car during that time.
Handcuffed!!!! REALLY?????
Some people are unfit to be police. If you give them any bit of power, they WILL abuse it
@@SEANPOL203 The cop had a right to be concerned. They seemed to be in a quiet residential area with little to no traffic, where the driver could've pulled right over, but he didn't. He (slowly) drove around for a whole minute doing / hiding who knows what while the cop likely repeatedly asked him to pull over during that time. That right there is a great way to get the police both upset AND even more suspicious of you.
@@factchecker2719 and this why police are scum in the USA and end up being killed
"You never stopped" and "You could have stopped at any moment"...seems to me he did stop at "any moment" and in particular it was a "moment in which he felt safe to do so".
If i was a cop and asked someone to pull over and they proceeded for another 1 minuet to a street, I'd be expecting to be ambushed.
@@-JonnyBoy- So, you'd stop _immediately,_ regardless of _where_ you were, even if that meant stopping on the roadway (there isn't always a shoulder or other good place to pull "over").
I drove for 60 seconds while the cops tried to pull me over to get to a safer spot since we were in rush hour traffic on the main road. I actually had 3 of them by the time I made it to where I stopped. I at least slowed down and used my hazard lights to acknowledge the cops. I also didn't try opening my door like this idiot driver, I rolled down my windows, and I kept my hands on the wheel so the officers could see them. The cop was pissed at me for continuing to drive but let me go with a warning since I did everything else right.
@@-JonnyBoy- Not to mention he tried opening his door immediately after stopping.
I've seen no statute that suggests you must only pull over once you personally feel safe to do so. It would be unreasonable to write that into a statute, too. Every person fleeing/eluding would attempt that defense, but that's not even the main issue with it. The main issue is that the court cannot reasonably measure whether you felt safe. They could measure whether a reasonable person would feel safe potentially, but that still likely wouldn't absolve Mr. Black of what he did. I'm saying this as someone who, at least morally speaking, finds it justifiable what Mr. Black did, according to his own reasoning.
Atwater v. Lago Vista here in Texas was where a woman had her kids in the car and one of her kids dropped some kind of toy out the open window in a residential section, and so she turned around and was slow-rolling back through to see if she could spot the toy, and had her seatbelt off, and the cop "caught" her and eventually arrested her. She LOST after spending over $100,000 on lawyers arguing up the WRONG arguments. The two supreme court cases of MEYER v. NEBRASKA and NEBBIA v. NEW YORK hold that we have the RIGHT TO BE FREE from Bodily Restraint, until and unless we have either been CONVICTED of a jailable misdemeanor or felony, and until and unless we have been ADJUDICATED mentally unable to care for ourselves or are harmful to others yet not culpable, and thus have to be committed to a mental institution. OTHER THAN THAT, we have the right to be free from bodily restraint. Period. End of story. But the cops are NOT taught these rulings.
I'm a 50yr old black male, there is no excuse for not immediately pulling over once a police car lights you up, it's only going to make things worse, I've been stoped several times by Torrance CA police who have a reputation for being racist I'm very respectfull and have never had a problem.
The pain in the man's eyes is unbearable
He was so disappointed on that police officer
He saw first hand the evils committed by police many had tried to convince him of that he refused to believe. That cop made a believer out of him.
Yes, and then he dealt well with the cops. He not only asserted his rights, he convinced multiple officers that his delay in pulling over was based on legitimate concerns. That takes iron will. He is the example I look up to.
What are you- an ophthalmologist?
He’s probably a very compassionate man because of his chosen profession.
It’s time that we peasants do something more than just complain about these pigs.
I've never seen someone so calm right after a gun was held in his face 👏 well done sir
You can tell he is a good counselor. Much respect
He was too calm
He voice was shaky
👏👏👏
Unfortunately he's probably experienced it before.
i am at the point, i have seen so many of these videos, that i cannot remember which ones i have seen and which not. i am stuck in a loop 😅
It takes 3 cops to give a seat belt ticket.
These days, not wearing a seat belt warrants a gun pointed at you.
That is not why the weapon was drawn. It was drawn because the motorist did not immediately stop as required by law, and was therefore fleeing, which is a felony in Florida. Standard procedure for a felony stop is to approach with weapon drawn.
Wow he read him his rights on a seat belt violation
You have a right to stop at a safe location. The fact that this man is black is why the pig drew his gun
Police are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more likely to get shot at by black men than any other demographic.
@@riner9 bullshit
He literally said "i have my seat belt on" when the officer asks him out of the car. This is our tax money people
May we politely suggest the following de-escalation for remedy?
THE TRUST IS COLLAPSED....in other words, your company is no longer granting them any more credit.
If the policeman is not lawfully investigating the crime on behalf of the male/female victim and is entering YOUR company jurisdiction without you summonsing them, then would it not be advisable to be politely placing YOUR public-servants/trustees under your notification that your company is charging $707 per hour/part-there-of for YOUR company time and also $717 for YOUR company performance?....and that any further communicating (verbal) and/ or corresponding (written) with your company, is with them accepting the terms & conditions of the commercial contract IN THE PRIVATE (the cop and their CHIEF and their POLICE UNION is now with PERSONAL liability.... because Notice-to-Agent-is-Notice-to-Principal....and also through JOINDER....and they also lose their qualified immunity)
This way, you are NOT resisting/refusing to obey/comply with their orders/demands/policy /questions, but instead, you are now willing to perform WITH THE CONDITION that payment is with your company immediately, because you have NO CONFIDENCE with them administrating YOUR company trust!
THE PUBLIC TRUST IS COLLAPSED...Why is YOUR company issuing them extra credit! Are YOU not the executor and the beneficiary of YOUR trust?...making them the trustees, whom are with their fiduciary obligation and duty-of-care to be NOT causing you injury nor damage nor loss nor harm.
Is THEIR job YOUR job? Is THEIR company policy YOUR company policy?
not unless and until they are PAYING for your company time & performance
THE CONSTRUCTIVE TRUST IS COLLAPSED...YOUR company is no longer performing free-of-charge!
You may be willing to pursue the matter through the small-claims-court and/or through arbitration which is held in-the-private because PUBLIC court is only for the PUBLIC servant.
YOUR TRUST FUND IS NOW WITH RESTORATION....YOUR company is now making money from every encounter with YOUR public-servants because the days of doing something with your trustees for free are over.
PS-Be the BUSINESS man with the public-servants.....NOT the victim.
Please be directing your city/county council by letter to implement immediate police cut-backs because of the appalling waste of resources.
@@mccabeianenator look at countries without police or corrupt police. notice they're all ran by the mafia. do you want that where you live? back in late 80 and early 90's it was ran by gangs. look at the police change that happened to put the gangs in hiding.
@@jetah50 the mafia doesn't randomly pull over and harass innocent people for no reason.
@@andrewroberts1123 instead they harass shop owners, and local businesses.
@@mccabeianenator [The masses are not ready for the truth @mccabeianenator.]
point a gun for seat belt get that cop in jail
Pull over where? If there is no shoulder or place to pull off the road should you stop in the lane still on the road?
Please keep us updated on the law suit
I live 40 miles from this location and travel through Pensacola regularly . It's my experience that Police don't usually pull guns on seat belt violators unless they are Black !! This Officer seemed to think he had hit the jack pot with this stop . I'm truly surprised that he didn't arbitrarily search the vehicle without permission ! I hope the young man is successful in his Lawsuit !!
Well that's not anecdotal at all. Such statements do zero to help. So just don't make them.
Freedom of speech. Don’t listen to comments against it.
@@Mark-sn6kh neither is yours
@@Mark-sn6kh yours sucked a lot more!!!
I've visited Florida a few times, my folks go there during the winter months. There are plenty of elderly people in their area. I witnessed a person drive for a few minutes before they realized the lights and sirens were on behind them. After they pulled over, the police officer casually walked up to the car. The law with regards to evasion is obviously not practiced uniformly thought the state. There is no provision on the books for elderly drivers who have no clue what's going while being pulled over. The video that was released does not show how long the officer behind the vehicle, when he turned his lights or siren on or any radio communication. It will be interesting to see how this case plays out when all the facts are laid bare. There are certainly many more facts regarding this traffic stop that are not yet on public record. The fact that a lawyer is taking this on as a case leads me to side with you Mr. Griswold regarding this matter.
"You never stopped" While he has the guy handcuffed in front of his patrol car without having to wreck or PIT maneuver his vehicle, the guy is literally pulled over and stopped without "fleeing", cop just wanted any reason to add more charges..
This is what I mean about Florida Police Officer's. They are very Corrupt.
Same thing happen to me in SOBE ( south bch ) in Miami . The lit me up on 7th and Ocean drive and was surprise that I did not "pull" over immediately. Anybody who does not know ocean drive, your not pulling over anywhere with a big truck on ocean drive at a 8pm Saturday night.
I had 7 cop respond by cars, bike and on foot.
;(
The guy drove for at least a whole minute before stopping. If it is unsafe to stop there, the police officer has a PA and can instruct you to pull into the next parking lot/side street. Fleeing, by definition, is moving away from someone or something. So if you are signaled by police, signal your turn and slow to a stop within 200 ft.
Low IQ cop.
Being pulled over for just a seat belt needs to end. It is not for your protection it’s a money grab and opportunity to infringe upon your rights.
How does the police get a B when he had no right to search the car.
This went good because he remained calm and did not become agitated, even in the wrong being calm can save you.
Agreed.. maybe it was his training as a counselor... he's probably been in a lot of crazy situations and could keep his cool
Yes, he says this every video...
This is why i tell by black brothers to remain calm and in control when dealing with cops, Even when you are in the right. Know your rights, state them assertively and confidently but not aggressively. And after all of that if a police still wanna fuq up at his job, let him. Why are you stopping him? It’s your duty to let him fuq up. Just make sure to get it on camera and sue him in court.
Maroxa LosesWeight u r simply dead wrong. The problem is cops shooting people just because they get butthurt.
I agree but sometimes it still dose work out
The way USA police treat people is unbelievable 😂
you can't say every cop is bad you can cherry pick but your point is invalid
it is their job to intimidate
Remember these people are former slaves . Remember the USA police culture was born out of slave catching !
@@secretmessage9130
True not every cop
But 99% of the pigs are unbelievably below average intelligence, and rotten to core
Dude. Watch Brazilian cops and then you can write that comment lol
“You never stopped” he says, while talking to him after he stopped
This young man knows his right. End of conversation with officers, officers cámara man it’s your only witness in court.
My friend has just started her time in the academy. I figured she'd get a kick out of your channel so I shared a video with her the other day. She is obsessed. I believe she's watched every video in your library so far. Anywho, just thought youd like to know... There's a good chance your work is going to help shape at least one Pittsburgh police officer into being a better cop. She's already the most decent person I know... But as we all know, power corrupts. As for me, as dramatic as this sounds, I think your channel should be mandatory for all police training. What better way to learn the right and wrong way to do your job than seeing it first hand. Keep making videos dude, and we'll keep watching
Change always start with one person.
Hear hear
Thanks for sharing that. Best of luck to your friend. I'm sure she will make a great officer. Cheers!
I've been saying this for a few months. These and many other auditors should be part of LEO's continuation training.
Think cities have liability insurance for police. What would be interesting is if someone talked to the insurance company and then they made the cops watch these videos.
Since I've started watching this channel, I've said this should be shown to officers regularly. And they should have to take tests regarding the videos. It's also helpful for me and other private citizens. I've learned so much!
"B" no way being pulled out of your car at gun point for not wearing a seatbelt. Give it the 60 year old white lady test. Would she have been pulled at gun point for a seat belt and not pulling over in one minute? Stop excusing the bad actions of police. Searching his car handcuffed with no threat and a seatbelt ticket when I saw him take it off?
@B737FLY The law for both are the same so they both should be treated the same. You know that proven guilty thing...
He was at gunpoint for fleeing from a police officer. The same thing would apply to an elderly woman. It is for the safety of the police officer. An innocent person does NOT flee from the police.
I too saw him take the seat belt off. Older vehicles did not have a shoulder belt. Not sure if this one did?
LOL, Have you seen the 60 year old lady that they hauled out of the car and tased? I think that was over a broken tail light. She got smart with the cop. Said for the most part - F you. I don't have to do squat. He said yea you do. You're getting a ticket! She fled, was apprehended and tased the B!
@B737FLY For the record I was pulled out and had a shot gun pressed to my head. The fact that I was a Navy Petty Officer is what saved my ass. Unfortunately you missed the point. The old lady would not have been looked at close enough to even notice the seat belt. Which by the way was on and locked as you can see when he did pull over. He should not have been pulled over in the first place every thing following the unlawful pull over was a crime.
He doesn't consent to a search. He doesn't need to then give you an explanation.
I got pulled over for doing a rolling stop about 3 years ago. Didn't see the officer's lights because my car's back window is small and I was unfortunately suffering from some slight sleep deprivation that morning. He didn't have his weapon drawn but he had his gun unholstered and his hand on it when he approached. I had NO idea he was behind me until he activated his siren. Wrote me the biggest ticket he could and called for 3 cars of backup. I was scared out of my mind. I tried fighting it in court, hoping the prosecutor would give me a deal for a lesser charge but they wanted to stick it to me and it took forever for the points to fall off. They really go on a power trip if you fail to pull over right away.
Over a seatbelt? What a lazy petty bully with a badge. Terrible law enforcement. Is it any wonder so many people hate the police?
How can you give that cop a B for drawing a deadly weapon on him without ANY proof that he was armed?
If the driver started opening the door without being told to do so then it was totally justified. We'll never know since the audio didn't start until after he started opening the door. Had he sat in his seat with his hands at 10&2 on the steering wheel then this probably would have been a relatively chill stop.
@@JoeMac1983 Not true. There's no way they would've done this to a white person.
He doesn’t need proof. The fact the the driver didn’t stop immediately is reason enough to approach the vehicle with gun drawn.
Because he didn’t stop for a whole minute.
Mechanic - So you don’t want any police?
The reason he accused him from fleeing was to have a reason to arrest or search.
why do you think he was so eager to search or arrest him? do you think they get bonus pay for searching or arresting a black guy? c'mon, most cops don't go looking for trouble out of thin air, they just want to get home at the end of their shift like anybody else. yea, i assume so sadists do that, but most do not.
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG yeah they do. The police are power tripping trash. You are extremely naive. They always attempt to escalate traffic stops into greater more serious chargers if they can and if they feel like they can get away with it. So what's it feel like to be bootlicking scum exactly? What do you get from that?
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG Probably wanted to get to his arrest quota
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG why do you think most ppl become cops? 😂it’s just a power thing if someone makes you mad and you have hella power over them wouldn’t it make you feel good to ruin their life if ur a sociopath. I only respect the vets who become cops because they actually have a purpose in it. ppl who wanna become cops for their first job or career are weird power trippin ppl.
@@DaveDepilot-KFRG Actually thats exactly what they do
remember that kids: if you get pulled over, stop immediately where you are.... doesnt matter if it is in the middle of an interstate or in rush hour traffic
I was stopped by Miami Beach police in 2014 for no reason , they got me out if my car they fully searched me and my vehicle without even ask for permission then let me go !!!!
I wished I knew my right at that time as I do now .
Thank you guys for educating us
What car u was drivin
@@ELLABandz4o4 Chevy impala 2000
Officer said he pulled him over for not wearing a seatbelt, gun drawn, orders him out, and you can clearly see and hear the driver tell the officer he has his seatbelt on and watch him undo it to get out of the car and he gets a B? You missed this one by a mile.
It irritates me to no end to see that cops are still getting away with this crap based on their (the cops) racial prejudices . I have no doubt he would not have done this to a white man .
he would have done worse to a white man in the post George Floyd America, and that is backed up by empirical data on police stops.
Spot on and this is the usual lies people have come to expect from police, this was racial, it sickens me as a white person to see this totally biased version of justice coming the filth, they keep earning the hate and hopefully these videos are going to be there undoing.
@@welcometoorefuge Yeah, us white people don't get abused lol.
@@welcometoorefuge has nothing to do with race. White people are actually abused by police at a disproportionately high rate compared to their level of crime. Black people are abused at a disproportionately low rate compared to their level of crime. It is a simple case of people with little to no training being given absolute power over other people and using it to satisfy their own egos
That man had his seat belt on and the officer lied about the seat belt. The officer gets an F.
I had to watch that part again, you can see the shoulder belt move before he got out of the car. The cop put his car in park after he opened the door so he was rather excited on cuffing the counsellor.
@@steveboverie9432 @ 1:03 the cop repeats get out of the vehicle...guy says i have my seat belt on..reaches over and unlatches it
@@mattf49006 I had a hard time seeing the seat belt but seeing it move showed that he was wearing the seat belt.
F-
He could have easily put his seatbelt on while he was still driving. Didn't think of that?
Cops are constantly questioning citizens for being in the parking lot of a closed business. I have tried to research this topic for the commonwealth of PA. In said commonwealth, can police officers while on duty sit in a closed business parking lot and do they need the permission of the property owner to do so?
COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY, WHERE DO THEY FIND THESE PEOPLE AND IS THIS AN EXAMPLE OF (A CULTURE OF CORRUPTION)
Cop- “Get out of the vehicle now”
Guy- “I have my seatbelt on”
*takes it off*
Cop- “I’m stopping you for not having a seatbelt on”
🤦🏾♂️
Exactly what I noticed. That should make the stop invalid.
Yet he gave him a b!🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
yea that minute that he was driving before he actually pulled over, that was him putting on his seat belt. Jeez every black person now that gets pulled over can just pull the race card. I was pulled over recently by a spanish cop and he gave me a seatbelt ticket. Was he being racist? Do i get to sue him court because he was a different race than me?? Holy christ the stupidity today.
@@stus2159 literally the most stupid comment I’ve ever read in this entire comment thread of this video.
Simple solution: as soon as the lights flash on, slam on your breaks with all your strength, then after they smash into you, sue the officer for following at an unsafe distance, and causing whiplash...they can't defend against this, because they should have reasonably expected the vehicle to stop immediately after they turned on their lights.
I feel that would either work really well or you'd be laughed out of court
Love it.
no shit, florida's legislature and supreme court are failing its citizens in this instance.
LOL I love it
Nice!
This is beyond words
I never got the stop right away thing when the test to get ur license says u can slowdown, turn ur hazards and wait till ur somewhere safe to pull over
*The officer gets an "F" for pulling his weapon and for ordering the guy out the car. There is a thing called discretion.*
Exactly!!! B for pulling a gun over a seatbelt?!? Are you kidding me??
I 👍 agree
Gun was pulled for fleeing, not for a seatbelt. When cops engage in a pursuit, they are trained to stop the vehicle under a gun point because there is a high probability of a weapon being inside of a car. The speed of a vehicle is NOT important. I know it looks stupid, but if the guy had a gun, it wouldn't look stupid. Cops were actually very polite and professional during this interaction, I've watched the whole body-cam footage as well, you can find it somewhere.
I don't know how many of these videos you've watched, but the editors would never give the officer that high of a mark for gun being pulled, unless it was completely lawful in that situation.
I disagree. When someone appears to be fleeing from the cops they are FAR more dangerous than your standard pull over. In this case the cop did the right thing.
@@perasima6533 He didn't flee , that's speeding away. WOW!!! It's his right to feel safe. Had no weapon , posed no weapon. Fleeing is not ever stopping. The world is in trouble if people use your logic.
"I don't consent to any searches *because I have no way to 'prove my innocence' if you plant evidence."*
I'm gonna say F for pulling his gun and having it pointed at him for no real reason
At the point of not pulling over it is considered a felony stop like always. Felony stop means guns drawn.
Of something is stupid as just not pulling over a felony. It should be a misdemeanor. No one wants a freaking felony on their record.
@@adjcsee4476 If you are saying there should be a difference between "failure to stop" and "fleeing", sure. But making fleeing a misdemeanor would be a disaster.
@@g1mmedatdome284 oh I agree with you. There should be a difference between the two.
In the military: we are taught the "Deadly Force Triangle" since more than likely we will have to do armed watches at entry points, pier security, topside rover, etc.
We also run drills about once or twice a week where the deadly force triangle and levels are explained to us. We simulate armed intruder, forced entry, suspicious package, etc. And believe it or not, most often, people don't unholster their (wooden) weapons for these drills. Because it doesn't meant the requirements for the Deadly Force Triangle.
We are given such a strict mindset of when it is ok to draw your weapon. We are told that once you draw your weapon, you intend to use it. You point your weapon, you intend to use it. There are no warning shots, it is a matter of life and death, the protection of self and others, or a danger to the public.
And it's just horrifying that law enforcement don't seem to get that. In fact, it seems like they are taught that going for your weapon and pointing it at someone is your first option while still giving verbal commands.
Any person with basic firearm experience and safety knows that's a bad fucking idea.
They brandish their weapon with such carelessness that it makes me think no officer should ever be armed with a deadly weapon because they are just looking for a reason to use it.
Looks to me like the officer pointed his weapon at a non threat.
That’s pretty normal unfortunately
Non threat? I could name several things he could have done while continuing to drive to become a threat.
@@Rich-yj4ub Lmao, you racists will make up and condone anything huh?
@@Rich-yj4ub he has every right to pull over where he feels safe. It's actually encouraged. He never fled nor eluded. Suck it slow pig lover
@@Rich-yj4ub Key words "to become a threat" Your words. There is no reason to point the weapon at him. The cop could have just as easily held at the low ready. I have done enough force on force to understand why. Maybe you need to do some more.
I cant understand why the officer used handcuffs in the first place.
I don't know if this is true in all states.
In some jurisdictions it is legal to turn on your emergency flashers to acknowledge that you're aware of being pulled over while you continue driving and looking for a safe place to stop.
“You never stopped” talking to the guy who literally pulled over and stopped.
Yeah, what was he thinking 🤣. I think he said it twice.
To be fair,
I imagine he felt stressed though after following this man for a minute wondering if something bad might happen.... Even though I despise many cops, they aren't robots, and it can be a very dangerous job. My respect to any cop who is doing it right and I hope the rest get fired ASAP!
@@FreedomExperiment not a single one is doing it right though so I think you're crazy
@@GetCarelessNonsense! as someone who has been falsely convicted of a crime I can assure you the only thing that has been said that is crazy, is what you said. Police are absolutely necessary, otherwise there is chaos, wise up
@@FreedomExperiment Armed citizens are absolutely necessary, then we wouldn't really need cops.
@@scottmerrow7617 What about when some armed citizen kills another person wrongfully..?
I understand the current system of policing in America is terrible but that doesn't mean that we don't need some form of police. The police obviously need a massive and sweeping overhaul of all systems in the US at minimum for sure