Thank you for this amazing video with the Proline 21. In my mind I enjoyed so much when remember my good times flying a Beech 1900 with that avionics. Happy Landings Captain !
Thanks for the excellent Pro-Line 21 video! I have long felt the Proline 21 is the best "fit" for the KingAir; Better than Proline Fusion, better than Garmin. Heck the older EFIS CRT system was already pretty darn good, but the tubes are heavier and hard to find today, not to mention the better integration of the newer systems with today's GPS/ADS-B enabled environment. Proline 21 brings just the right level of automation to the King, where flying is still partially manual as you have to manage power in all phases of flight. Why did the fuel gauge indicator fall off when Engine 1 Start was engaged?
Hello captain, my name is charles. I am from brazil and, I was invited to fly a King air B200. I found your video and, I decided to watching, to learning or, to make a little idea, How I will operating this kind of aircraft. I am so happy! Thanks
Great video on the Proline. I’m sure many MEI’s disagree with slowing under blue line. If on an approach there is plenty of time to slow after DH or MDA. If VFR there is plenty of time to slow after landing is assured. The past few years have been rough for the King Air safety records and not respecting blue line is the common denominator.
I’ve been out of the King Air since 2018 and I hadn’t heard about crashes lately. I’ve had this discussion before though about blue line. Blue line is a climb speed, not a descent speed. I’ve noticed that schools are teaching to approach at blue line these days but I’m not sure where that came from. In King Air school we were taught to fly it like any big turbo prop, or a jet, and actually fly the proper approach speed. Either way, if you were to lose an engine on approach, and you felt that needed you to make a go around, which you shouldn’t, then you’d continue down and accelerate to blue line. After the king air I flew the 747, and now I’m on the MD-11. Both of these we do the same, when we lose that second engine on final, we accelerate to a climb speed and go around, if necessary, or we just land. Fly safe out there.
No such thing as ground/flight idle in a King air. Just Low and High idle, and its only function is really to increase the idle speed. High idle is usually only used to 1-pull in more air and 2-decerease the amount of time for engine to spool for say a short field landing to get reverse thrust quicker or 3-To start the second engine while on battery. All operations in a king air are normally with Low Idle, however I agree that they should both be in the same position, not one in either or. He could be doing this for a specific reason for this aircraft, maybe a cooling issue in the right engine.
@@JamesWhite-fo9wk thanks for your explanation. I have not yet any King Air experience, only Pilatus Aurcraft. But because of the different spool up times I asked the guy who made the video why he took off like that. I saw in the video he put it on high idle for the second engine start. But for such a video he should watch out for little details like this ;) Blue skies.
I’m sure he probably just forgot to put both condition levers back to low idle being busy talking making a video. There’s no good technical reason to have one engine on high idle and one on low idle.
Question, why do most of the videos of GA aircraft wait until after starting engines to get ATIS and program the flightplan? Is it a battery limitation or just SOP? Coming from an airline perspective, we do all the programming prior to starting engines (but we do have an APU or external power).
Yea Blue line to the numbers or even close to it has never been taught to me thank gawd. I love when I ready people commenting and they never put their qualifications. Like me. Im a solo student of only 200 hours in SEL & MEL piston powered aircraft. Also I’m currently more than 35hours / 3 plus years into a A&P Apprenticeship. It’s my feeling that thinking you know everything is a really dangerous mindset. I’ll bet it’s killed a lot of people . Try to be open minded. Always question yourself and let in information. Yes you may be the smartest guy in the room but if your also the coolest guy in the room…. chicks dig that !
Great video! Got a little bit of right seat time in a C560U, and the FMS was the most difficult thing to learn in the airplane. This video helped refresh my memory on it. Without access to an FMS, do you have an FMS training resource you can recommend? I use Flight Sim a lot so if there is one for that it would be most helpful. Thanks!
The flight simulator programs like x-plane 11 and Microsoft Flight Simulator have airplanes that have FMSs that work pretty much identical to the real FMS whether it’s a proline 21 or Garmin. Also, King Schools online sells courses on Collins proline 21 stuff as well as Garmin.
I love pilots who constantly touch the screens.
Fibally a dude wgo actually knows what the hell he is doing. Very refreshing! Nicely done. Keep up the great work brother. 🤙
Thank you for this amazing video with the Proline 21. In my mind I enjoyed so much when remember my good times flying a Beech 1900 with that avionics. Happy Landings Captain !
I Learned something today thank you for this video my granddad Flew for 50+ years and flew a KA C90B
My company just picked up a B200 with the ProLine panel. This video was very helpful in explaining its functions.
Thank you for making this video. So very helpful for those new to PL21!
Appreciate the video, thank you! Good luck with the new job!!
Nice! I've spent many hours in that plane. Did you find my glasses?
Great details ! Perfect to improve my milviz ka350i skills
What sim has the king air 350i? I’ve been looking for a 350i sim plane for xPlane but haven’t found one yet.
Good stuff! Thanks for posting. 👍
I agree, the dual cue command bars are so much better than v bar. You can always tell who the E jet pilots are because we love that FPA 😂
Thank you for the video
Thanks for the excellent Pro-Line 21 video! I have long felt the Proline 21 is the best "fit" for the KingAir; Better than Proline Fusion, better than Garmin. Heck the older EFIS CRT system was already pretty darn good, but the tubes are heavier and hard to find today, not to mention the better integration of the newer systems with today's GPS/ADS-B enabled environment. Proline 21 brings just the right level of automation to the King, where flying is still partially manual as you have to manage power in all phases of flight. Why did the fuel gauge indicator fall off when Engine 1 Start was engaged?
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Hello captain, my name is charles. I am from brazil and, I was invited to fly a King air B200. I found your video and, I decided to watching, to learning or, to make a little idea, How I will operating this kind of aircraft. I am so happy! Thanks
Good stuff. Flew a C90A with a King 900 (pre EFIS84). Flying the ProLine would be nice. Maybe someday... Thanks for the vid, good sir 🤙🏽
Nice video , thx for posting . I learned A LOT
Very helpful, thank you, I was looking for something just like this.
Great video on the Proline. I’m sure many MEI’s disagree with slowing under blue line. If on an approach there is plenty of time to slow after DH or MDA. If VFR there is plenty of time to slow after landing is assured. The past few years have been rough for the King Air safety records and not respecting blue line is the common denominator.
I’ve been out of the King Air since 2018 and I hadn’t heard about crashes lately. I’ve had this discussion before though about blue line. Blue line is a climb speed, not a descent speed. I’ve noticed that schools are teaching to approach at blue line these days but I’m not sure where that came from. In King Air school we were taught to fly it like any big turbo prop, or a jet, and actually fly the proper approach speed. Either way, if you were to lose an engine on approach, and you felt that needed you to make a go around, which you shouldn’t, then you’d continue down and accelerate to blue line.
After the king air I flew the 747, and now I’m on the MD-11. Both of these we do the same, when we lose that second engine on final, we accelerate to a climb speed and go around, if necessary, or we just land.
Fly safe out there.
@@theflyingstones6840 Went from a King Air to the 74? Now *there's* a bit of an adjustment, being in the nosebleed seats..
Very nice. I learned a lot.
Why did you take-off with LH Condition Lever in Ground Idle and RH Condition Lever in Hi/Flight Idle?
No such thing as ground/flight idle in a King air. Just Low and High idle, and its only function is really to increase the idle speed. High idle is usually only used to 1-pull in more air and 2-decerease the amount of time for engine to spool for say a short field landing to get reverse thrust quicker or 3-To start the second engine while on battery.
All operations in a king air are normally with Low Idle, however I agree that they should both be in the same position, not one in either or. He could be doing this for a specific reason for this aircraft, maybe a cooling issue in the right engine.
@@JamesWhite-fo9wk thanks for your explanation. I have not yet any King Air experience, only Pilatus Aurcraft.
But because of the different spool up times I asked the guy who made the video why he took off like that. I saw in the video he put it on high idle for the second engine start. But for such a video he should watch out for little details like this ;)
Blue skies.
I’m sure he probably just forgot to put both condition levers back to low idle being busy talking making a video. There’s no good technical reason to have one engine on high idle and one on low idle.
Good catch. Looks like I forgot. This video was shot in 2017 so who knows.
Is there no more switch of the right geni befor start engine nr1?
Question, why do most of the videos of GA aircraft wait until after starting engines to get ATIS and program the flightplan? Is it a battery limitation or just SOP? Coming from an airline perspective, we do all the programming prior to starting engines (but we do have an APU or external power).
Perfect video, great information
Thanks for posting!
You should no cross start with the running engine with gen on till 10% on starting other side.
is it ok for the 2nd engine starter/generator to be put under stress to start engine 1 from 0 rpm?
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Yea Blue line to the numbers or even close to it has never been taught to me thank gawd.
I love when I ready people commenting and they never put their qualifications. Like me. Im a solo student of only 200 hours in SEL & MEL piston powered aircraft. Also I’m currently more than 35hours / 3 plus years into a A&P Apprenticeship.
It’s my feeling that thinking you know everything is a really dangerous mindset. I’ll bet it’s killed a lot of people . Try to be open minded. Always question yourself and let in information. Yes you may be the smartest guy in the room but if your also the coolest guy in the room…. chicks dig that !
Hi, how does this aircraft flies asymmetrically ie when the left or critical engine fails? Is it easier than a Navajo or deadlier?
The king air does very well in a single-engine situation. The Navajo is pretty benign, however, it doesn't climb very well on one engine.
Not bad...the rudder boost system works pretty well and the 350i has enough power to climb on one engine decently down low.
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Great video! Got a little bit of right seat time in a C560U, and the FMS was the most difficult thing to learn in the airplane. This video helped refresh my memory on it. Without access to an FMS, do you have an FMS training resource you can recommend? I use Flight Sim a lot so if there is one for that it would be most helpful. Thanks!
The flight simulator programs like x-plane 11 and Microsoft Flight Simulator have airplanes that have FMSs that work pretty much identical to the real FMS whether it’s a proline 21 or Garmin. Also, King Schools online sells courses on Collins proline 21 stuff as well as Garmin.
@@mxcollin95 Thanks!
It uses the same callouts as Boeing aircraft except it misses the 2500, 1000, 400, and 300 callouts.
I know this area. 😊
Hellva pilot
That was fun
Where is the turn coordinator on proline 21?
It's on the video at 7:59
That's the turn coordinator, my question it's about the turn rate. Wich you usually use for coordinated turns..(2 min for 360°)
bad footage/recording
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