True that for that 4th dimension. Buttkickers rock but I am running AURA Tactile Transducers and they give the best bang (or in this case rumble) for the buck
@@Optimus-Prime-Rib I used an analog Pioneer Full A/V rcvr which had circuit overload protection. Had the volume up a tad too much last summer and the receiver went into 'protect mode' and never came out. In the market for a newer amplifier to run the AURAs
It's pretty cool RAF👍 There's a theater down the street from me and thay have butt kickers installed in all the theater seats. It's a pretty amazing experience.
Great video!!! I just installed some bass shakers in my home theater and I am completely floored with the results. This was far one of the best investments I’ve made so far to my home theater. I have a full Dolby Atmos 7.4.4 setup. I have four 12 inch subwoofers included in my setup. These bass shakers are a must have period. I own the AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducers. I’m using three Emotiva A-100 amplifiers to push 6 bass shakers. Just one bass shaker for each my theater seats.
I took your advice and convinced my wife who by the way doesn’t like you too much for all the money I’ve spent 😀 and had two transducers installed on the bottom of our leather sofa in our theater room. All I have to say is that it has completely transformed our theater room. I have an acoustically transparent screen and have 2 10inch subs behind the screen and the base was pretty good but having these transducers makes it feel like the base is everywhere. Now this coupled with my 295 es and 7.2.4 Atmos setup, I feel like I have a mini Dolby cinema. I want to thank you for making this video because it probably is the single most transformative item in my theater aside from the 4K 295 ES projector and the 133 inch screen. But I have to say that it is an absolute must have. Thanks again my friend.
I built a platform with 2x6's with plywood floor for 4 theater seats. Connected 3 butt kickers to the inside of the platform. Always give first timers a helicopter ride, awesome.
buster brown is there any video online explaining how the platform is done? If not, just a lil explanation/ clarification? So, the platform is just free sanding on floor not screwed into any walls or anything right? I think I’d want to do this so I just want to make sure I do it right once I do.
@@roco9504 Yes free standing, so it's able to vibrate, thus vibrating anything on it. Ive never seen a video, but there are pics on blu ray.com forums of guys as they build them as I have done or google buttkicker platforms pics. 2x6's 16 off center to desired width and length. install r13 insulation between each opening (prevent reverb) 2-4 buttkckers, plywood on top (carpeted)and hard rubber in spots underneath like hockey pucks, very simple. Mine is 12'x7' supporting 4 theatre seats and 3 buttkickers
Hai i am from India i am using the denon 3800 which butt kicker do you recommend for a room size of 12* 13, and which amp to pair along with the butt kickers ☺️
What's up Raf? Great video! I got 8 auro bass shakers in my 4 theater seats I could of just did 4 but I had them already so I just decided to hook them all up and adjust my amp a lower. I absolutely love them they add another dimension to the movie experience. It's funny to hear people react to them. It's cool haven in my setup right now because I only have to cheap polk subs and the shakers make it seem like I'm running a better sub setup. I would recommend buttkicker or auro shakers all day even if you have 5 subs in your room.😃I always love seeing your setup Raf.. Keep up the great work
When I was younger I always used to say, you have to feel the bass, not just hear it... Never knew about the existence of transducers/butt-kickers, I learned about them from my interest in sim racing where people mount butt-kickers to their rig that gets powered by simhub software to get those car vibrations to your rig. So at some point I was wondering what the original use for these butt-kickers was besides sim racing, and when I realized they just work on LFE channels, I decided to buy one and mount it to my sofa. And DAMN!!! It performs, SO GOOD!!! Really strong vibrations, because it's mounted to a metal plate side-mounted to the metal frame underneath the actual sofa, the metal frame was designed to be just for the legs/feet of the sofa. Found out that the way I mounted it, it actually increases the vibrations 😂 It's mounted like this: __butt-kicker__|:[frame] Where the lines are the plate, which is bolted : to the frame. And the butt-kicker actuates a weight up and down, so it functions like it's on a lever which I think increase the vibrations significantly 😂😂😂🤣 though it's also like a reverb effect, a short 5Hz bass sound will shake a little bit longer than intended.
I'm so glad I went for a tactile transducer before investing in upgrading my 5.1 setup to 5.2.2 + Zone2 2.0 A tactile transducer is such an awesome experience, beats any amount of extra speakers!!! 😁 Btw I've been saying butt-kicker but I have an "AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro" Bass shaker, not sure if butt-kicker is also a term for bass shakers or just a brand-name, I've been saying it as a term as it's easy to remember and it really does kick your butt! But it's not from the butt-kicker brand.
Ok... Maybe you can help me with this. ... I have a Sony audio visual control center with a single subwoofer line out. My subwoofer has a dual line in. I currently have a Y connector to connect it as such. Now how can I take what I have a add an additional connection to connect to my Buttkicker amp with its single line level input? That's where the wheels are falling off for me.
Can the intensity go low enough so it feels like a bass shaker? Just so if playing music it's not too powerful but when playing a game you can increase it
Yes, you can use the subwoofer out of your AVR to the buttkicker amp and get the signal. It's not a sub replacement, but an extension of a subwoofer. Must have in my opinion.
Have you tried the Earthquake shakers? How would you compare the Buttkicker mini vs the Earthquake MQB-1 and the Buttkicker LFE vs the Earthquake Q10B? I've been researching for tactile transducers for a couple months now, will be pulling the trigger this Black Friday, and it looks like it all comes down to these two brands as the best in the biz.
Any suggestion on how to stop random rumble? I noticed my system (exactly like you have) rumbles randomly when all AV is turned off or even in between bass situations. It is so annoying that I stopped using them.
Hey Raf! I looked at getting a setup like yours but found the BKA-1000-M is being re-engineered. Do you know anything about this? Have you had any issues with the current amplifier your have? It's my understanding they had some issue with the amp and are making changes/improvements. On you theater seating you are using the daisy chain wiring?
Hey Terry! I know some of the early model Amps caught on fire! So If It's re engineered then that's a good thing! Yes I'm daisy chaining them to the amp.
so im getting into sim Racing and bought a Buttkicker MiniLFE and a 100w power amp on amazon and it has pbtl. I wired it as i figured positive/ground cable from the unit but it keeps overheating. I have been trying to research all morning to find a solution and i think i need to wire it for pbtl and use that mode to get it to not overheat so fast. I am new to audio but do you think that will work?
Hello. Nice presentation! I have a question. Can one buttkicker with the platform supports two couches ?? im from Greece and they dont sell buttkickers here so after an online search i found a retailer on another country that sells buttkickers. He sells 2 buttkickers 400-1500 watts with the amplifier at the price of 1300+ euro... thats why im asking if one can be placed for 2 couches.... i have 2 rows of seats in my theater... Thanks!
If you don't rubbermount your engine in your car, it get a lot of vibrations. Would it not be the same with this? No rubber under the feet equals more vibrations!?
Hey Raf! Awesome demonstration! My question: Is there a way to cut off frequencies above 20 hz with the Buttkicker? I know the amp says 40 hz and below, but I only want it to play frequencies that my sub can't, so below 20 hz. Is there an option for that in the receiver maybe?
Bro I finally found a bk LFE on sale for just 220 and I installed it right behind my bed frame and it’s like an entire body massager down to the single digits holy f
I have the denon avr 6500h that has two subwoofer outs which I use for my two subs. How would I connect this? How many would you recommend for a 87 inch wide sofa? Does the lfe unit have power?
Okay Raf... Initially, I rulled out the Butt Kickers and was going for a 10-12 sub route.... However, after hearing your comments regarding the Butt Kickers I think I'll rethink that option.... Good info....
Would you recommend any buttkicker product even if I use it with ps4, tv series and music on a common 2 seats sofa? Maybe I wouldn't make full use of its potential... should I settle for a cheaper bundle? Thanks
There is something better than Butt Kickers, DBOX is better as they shack and move. I have butt kickers along with a few DBOX seats that are strictly for myself, son & bitch, and it does add a lot to experience of the movie, much better than just a seat that does nothing. Bad part about these butt kickers is they are working for scenes that have music but not any real action. I mean it feels good, getting a massage but then again it takes away when the action scenes and explosions are happing because they are always working. I mean it is better to have them but that is my view on them. I wish they would make them where they could access the DBOX signals and vibrate on those scenes only. DBOX seats for a full 8 seat theater is going to set you back 90k, reason I only have 4 seats and I got those used and got them for 15k.
I cant wait till i move out so i can start my own home theatre.
Thank you for the Buttkicker demo from THE RAFCAVE! You always deliver great content!
Thanks for watching! 😊
True that for that 4th dimension. Buttkickers rock but I am running AURA Tactile Transducers and they give the best bang (or in this case rumble) for the buck
Which amplifier did you use for your setup? Im looking at one of the Dayton ones
@@Optimus-Prime-Rib I used an analog Pioneer Full A/V rcvr which had circuit overload protection. Had the volume up a tad too much last summer and the receiver went into 'protect mode' and never came out. In the market for a newer amplifier to run the AURAs
It's pretty cool RAF👍
There's a theater down the street from me and thay have butt kickers installed in all the theater seats. It's a pretty amazing experience.
My AMC Dolby Cinema has them too. 😀👍🏽
Great video!!!
I just installed some bass shakers in my home theater and I am completely floored with the results. This was far one of the best investments I’ve made so far to my home theater. I have a full Dolby Atmos 7.4.4 setup. I have four 12 inch subwoofers included in my setup. These bass shakers are a must have period. I own the AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducers. I’m using three Emotiva A-100 amplifiers to push 6 bass shakers. Just one bass shaker for each my theater seats.
Damn That’s Badass
You Know I Have A Home Theater 🎭
My Self In Las Vegas
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I’m Thinking 🤔 About
Putting In Butt Kicker’s / Bass Shaker’s
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I took your advice and convinced my wife who by the way doesn’t like you too much for all the money I’ve spent 😀 and had two transducers installed on the bottom of our leather sofa in our theater room. All I have to say is that it has completely transformed our theater room. I have an acoustically transparent screen and have 2 10inch subs behind the screen and the base was pretty good but having these transducers makes it feel like the base is everywhere. Now this coupled with my 295 es and 7.2.4 Atmos setup, I feel like I have a mini Dolby cinema. I want to thank you for making this video because it probably is the single most transformative item in my theater aside from the 4K 295 ES projector and the 133 inch screen. But I have to say that it is an absolute must have. Thanks again my friend.
This Is amazing. 👏🏽❤️😊
You made a very helpful video for 2022 I am going to purchase one for my wife she never heard of it
🙂👍🏽
Great home theater talk let’s keep this series going
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🙂
I built a platform with 2x6's with plywood floor for 4 theater seats. Connected 3 butt kickers to the inside of the platform. Always give first timers a helicopter ride, awesome.
buster brown is there any video online explaining how the platform is done? If not, just a lil explanation/ clarification?
So, the platform is just free sanding on floor not screwed into any walls or anything right?
I think I’d want to do this so I just want to make sure I do it right once I do.
@@roco9504 Yes free standing, so it's able to vibrate, thus vibrating anything on it. Ive never seen a video, but there are pics on blu ray.com forums of guys as they build them as I have done or google buttkicker platforms pics. 2x6's 16 off center to desired width and length. install r13 insulation between each opening (prevent reverb) 2-4 buttkckers, plywood on top (carpeted)and hard rubber in spots underneath like hockey pucks, very simple. Mine is 12'x7' supporting 4 theatre seats and 3 buttkickers
Hai i am from India i am using the denon 3800 which butt kicker do you recommend for a room size of 12* 13, and which amp to pair along with the butt kickers ☺️
Hi, go the full LFE Butt kicker absolutely. You'll be glad. 🙂👍🏽
What's up Raf? Great video! I got 8 auro bass shakers in my 4 theater seats I could of just did 4 but I had them already so I just decided to hook them all up and adjust my amp a lower. I absolutely love them they add another dimension to the movie experience. It's funny to hear people react to them. It's cool haven in my setup right now because I only have to cheap polk subs and the shakers make it seem like I'm running a better sub setup. I would recommend buttkicker or auro shakers all day even if you have 5 subs in your room.😃I always love seeing your setup Raf.. Keep up the great work
Awesome! Glad you have some! They're great! 😀👍🏽
Yep u not kidding. I discovered Buttkickers back in late 90's Disney had the Ultimate home theater at Epcot and I've been shaking since then Lol
When I was younger I always used to say, you have to feel the bass, not just hear it... Never knew about the existence of transducers/butt-kickers, I learned about them from my interest in sim racing where people mount butt-kickers to their rig that gets powered by simhub software to get those car vibrations to your rig.
So at some point I was wondering what the original use for these butt-kickers was besides sim racing, and when I realized they just work on LFE channels, I decided to buy one and mount it to my sofa.
And DAMN!!! It performs, SO GOOD!!!
Really strong vibrations, because it's mounted to a metal plate side-mounted to the metal frame underneath the actual sofa, the metal frame was designed to be just for the legs/feet of the sofa. Found out that the way I mounted it, it actually increases the vibrations 😂
It's mounted like this:
__butt-kicker__|:[frame]
Where the lines are the plate, which is bolted : to the frame.
And the butt-kicker actuates a weight up and down, so it functions like it's on a lever which I think increase the vibrations significantly 😂😂😂🤣 though it's also like a reverb effect, a short 5Hz bass sound will shake a little bit longer than intended.
I'm so glad I went for a tactile transducer before investing in upgrading my 5.1 setup to 5.2.2 + Zone2 2.0
A tactile transducer is such an awesome experience, beats any amount of extra speakers!!! 😁
Btw I've been saying butt-kicker but I have an "AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro" Bass shaker, not sure if butt-kicker is also a term for bass shakers or just a brand-name, I've been saying it as a term as it's easy to remember and it really does kick your butt! But it's not from the butt-kicker brand.
Ok... Maybe you can help me with this. ... I have a Sony audio visual control center with a single subwoofer line out. My subwoofer has a dual line in. I currently have a Y connector to connect it as such. Now how can I take what I have a add an additional connection to connect to my Buttkicker amp with its single line level input? That's where the wheels are falling off for me.
Ha, easy. Get a y-adapter male 2 female from your Sony lfe output. 😉
Can the intensity go low enough so it feels like a bass shaker? Just so if playing music it's not too powerful but when playing a game you can increase it
Yes, you can change the intensity on the amplifier.
Thanks - great video and showcasing of the buttkickers - also absolutely loved the choice of movie for the effects :D
might half to look into some after I get my room redone
👍🏽
Do you think buttkicker would work without subwoofer? I think my main speakers can go down to 40hz, but currently no sub
Yes, you can use the subwoofer out of your AVR to the buttkicker amp and get the signal. It's not a sub replacement, but an extension of a subwoofer. Must have in my opinion.
Nice 👍🏻 I was looking at this Dayton audio SA1000 would this work with the buttkickers ?
Any high powered amp can work with Buttkicker LFEs, just need speaker wire to them and a sub signal. 👍🏽
@@TheRafcave thanks I’ll let you know how it goes when you set it up !
@@ccheg.v.6407 how did it go?
@@chopshop523 this really works ,it shakes the hell out of my theater seats 😂 ! No joke .
how do you prevent the buttkicker from rattling the other parts of your gaming chair that you don't want it to?
Placement is key. You also have to secure anything that might shake or rattle.
Have you tried the Earthquake shakers? How would you compare the Buttkicker mini vs the Earthquake MQB-1 and the Buttkicker LFE vs the Earthquake Q10B? I've been researching for tactile transducers for a couple months now, will be pulling the trigger this Black Friday, and it looks like it all comes down to these two brands as the best in the biz.
All I know Is Buttkickers. They've been great.
Great Video.
How many would you recommend for 6 theatre seats?
Thanks, 4 minimum. 2 for front row 2 for back row. 👍🏽
Any suggestion on how to stop random rumble? I noticed my system (exactly like you have) rumbles randomly when all AV is turned off or even in between bass situations. It is so annoying that I stopped using them.
Is that a hum or what?
Hey Raf! I looked at getting a setup like yours but found the BKA-1000-M is being re-engineered. Do you know anything about this? Have you had any issues with the current amplifier your have? It's my understanding they had some issue with the amp and are making changes/improvements.
On you theater seating you are using the daisy chain wiring?
Hey Terry! I know some of the early model Amps caught on fire! So If It's re engineered then that's a good thing! Yes I'm daisy chaining them to the amp.
so im getting into sim Racing and bought a Buttkicker MiniLFE and a 100w power amp on amazon and it has pbtl. I wired it as i figured positive/ground cable from the unit but it keeps overheating. I have been trying to research all morning to find a solution and i think i need to wire it for pbtl and use that mode to get it to not overheat so fast. I am new to audio but do you think that will work?
I would contact buttkicker support
Hello. Nice presentation! I have a question. Can one buttkicker with the platform supports two couches ?? im from Greece and they dont sell buttkickers here so after an online search i found a retailer on another country that sells buttkickers. He sells 2 buttkickers 400-1500 watts with the amplifier at the price of 1300+ euro... thats why im asking if one can be placed for 2 couches.... i have 2 rows of seats in my theater... Thanks!
If you put a large wood board under both couches and attached one buttkicker you can feel something.
If you don't rubbermount your engine in your car, it get a lot of vibrations.
Would it not be the same with this?
No rubber under the feet equals more vibrations!?
I use rubber isolators under the feet of my seats to improve the rumble.
Is it good for apartments setting. If I’m on the second floor, how much noise will it cause to neighbor below?
It doesn't make noise, It vibrates your chair so only you feel It. 👍🏽
THE RAFCAVE nice! Ok I’ll place a order ASAP!
First time I tried this at a theater was John Wick 3 and I felt like I waw gonna die
Every gunshot your feeling it! 😄👍🏽
As always RAF stunning video with lots of cool information to take it fantastic stuff RAF ...Buttkickers a must..cooool.:-)
Thanks Trev!
Thank you Raf! Which would you recommend for a bed?
The one I use for my couch. The Buttkicker simulation with the mounting kit.
What other amp can we use to power 4 of these buttkickers and still have access to low frequency?
Look at Crestron Amps
Hi, It's possible to connect this system to a sound bar home theater system like a Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2?
If your soundbar has a subwoofer out yes.
Cool
Hey Raf! Awesome demonstration! My question: Is there a way to cut off frequencies above 20 hz with the Buttkicker? I know the amp says 40 hz and below, but I only want it to play frequencies that my sub can't, so below 20 hz. Is there an option for that in the receiver maybe?
Thanks but only the amp can only cut the crossover to the indicated hz. They're may be a different device to cut the frequency of the LFE...
You can use a miniDSP if you want to cutt off lower than what the amplifier can do.
Awesome video Raf! How does this one compare to the mini lfe?
Hey Pasta, the LFE's are 4 times the power of the mini! 👍🏽😉
Bro I finally found a bk LFE on sale for just 220 and I installed it right behind my bed frame and it’s like an entire body massager down to the single digits holy f
Ha ha! Welcome to the Buttkicker Experience! 😄👍🏽
I’ve had some since 2008…but haven’t used it since 2011…It’s just in a box because I don’t have a system with an amplifier
Get It working man!
@@TheRafcave I don’t think it’s going to work, but im going to call Sonos tech support on Monday to try and figure this out
Do you like your lfe or your advance more?
I'm very happy now
I have the buttkicker advance ,I wondering if it worth to upgrade with a buttkicker lfe?
@@764bastien The advance is a smaller buttkickers. Not as powerful as this. But It will still give you a rumble.
I have the denon avr 6500h that has two subwoofer outs which I use for my two subs. How would I connect this? How many would you recommend for a 87 inch wide sofa? Does the lfe unit have power?
You could get a Y-Splitter for one of the sub outs. Two kickers would be enough. Yes the Buttkicker amp would provide the power to them.
I currently have wired but kickers and they are great. Now I’m looking for wireless Bluetooth but kickers any suggestions anyone. Thanks
Do you need one of those amplifiers, or can you just go straight from the buttkicker to the AVR sub out?
They need lots of power to work, so yeah they really need a powerful amp.
Okay Raf... Initially, I rulled out the Butt Kickers and was going for a 10-12 sub route.... However, after hearing your comments regarding the Butt Kickers I think I'll rethink that option.... Good info....
Your welcome. 🙂
Would you recommend any buttkicker product even if I use it with ps4, tv series and music on a common 2 seats sofa? Maybe I wouldn't make full use of its potential...
should I settle for a cheaper bundle?
Thanks
Any buttkicker added to any seat makes a big difference!
@@TheRafcave have you noticed some deadzones on certain low frequencies responses on the buttkicker mini? I read about that in some comments around
@@Unclog_my_gamecat_backlog My crossover stops at 40hz. It's just low lfe stuff.
Dude I have so many subs it shakes the seat and your nose
I do too! But I want a extra shake. 😄
Too bad they can’t deliver this kit @ the $500 price point anymore. Their new amp by itself is $600
Inflation times. 😕🤷🏽♂️
I have one for Pc chair not that great I like svs subs yeah more money but worth every penny 😬 I want to try 5hz one
I just got my 4k player, I got the lg ubk90 for $199
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Tactile transducer.... not TACTICAL transducer. Tactile means you can "feel" it. Tactical means something else. haha
Well tactical sounds more explosive lol. Thanks thou. 👍🏽
@@TheRafcave 🤣🤣🤣 True. Transducers do amplify explosions.
@@frankvee 😄👌🏾
Like always awesome video. would love individual links to items if possible
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@@TheRafcave your the best 👍🏾
the amp is shit. went through 2
Mines been good for 9 years now. 🙂👍🏽
Did you try a different amp?
There is something better than Butt Kickers, DBOX is better as they shack and move.
I have butt kickers along with a few DBOX seats that are strictly for myself, son & bitch, and it does add a lot to experience of the movie, much better than just a seat that does nothing.
Bad part about these butt kickers is they are working for scenes that have music but not any real action. I mean it feels good, getting a massage but then again it takes away when the action scenes and explosions are happing because they are always working. I mean it is better to have them but that is my view on them. I wish they would make them where they could access the DBOX signals and vibrate on those scenes only.
DBOX seats for a full 8 seat theater is going to set you back 90k, reason I only have 4 seats and I got those used and got them for 15k.
Common man. Buttkickers are a fraction of the cost of d box.
Такая хрень дом разрушит. В многоквартирке такое вобще недопустимо.
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