I also use a Kelley Shu in my kit with a D6, and have also drilled an XLR plug into the shell on my gigging kit, and that has been a game changer. It's a great setup for a working drummer!!
I live in the Midwest so cold travels for gigs in the winter season. The standard Home Depot style black rubber floor mats tend to freeze up in the winter months, i.e. you’re not rolling that thing out for at least twenty minutes when you get to the gig. So I bought a gently used commercial quality floor mat from a Cintas guy for 20 bucks. Soft rubber composite that won’t freeze up.
Love this video! I arrived at my optimum sizes too- very similar to yours as well! My is a 20 by 12 bd,12 by 8 rack Tom,and a 14 by 12 Floor Tom. I used to use an old Ludwig Clubdate kit,but then DW put out the Frequent Flyer with the HVLT shells,with lower the fundamental pitch of each drum so,to me,they sound like a size larger on each drum! Then I use ultra lightweight stands,2 amazing crash rides,or the Zildjian Constantinople series in medium to medium low weights. I love the supraphonic snare,or the tama Peter Erskine 4 by 14 wood hybrid model.
Really helpful.I'm preparing my second season of playing with a new wave cover band.Even choosing the right kit for rehearsal can be a headache.Keep more vids comming.I love my Audix D6 also.
A few things I love about the D6: it's relatively inexpensive, it's lightweight, and it has a sound that just says "Kick Drum" without any additional processing - especially on those smaller shows where there's not a FOH tech and the artist is mixing the show themselves. Set it and forget it!
@@DylanWissing thanks for the reply. In that regard I cannot wrap my head around the D112, in the studio though. I play a bass drum with no holes and it's so difficult for me to get a good sound. I use a rm-biv from a bit of distance but I still have to find a mic to put close to the head, and the fet 47 is too expensive for me :)
pretty close to my gig kit.. i build it myself, and it out performs any stock kit I ever tried/took years of experiments with wood and bearing edges). (diameter x depth) 12x8, 15x15, 22x15 (just love that low end wooof it gives me), supra 1964, and a few other snares I carry in my trunk just in case. 4,5 mm shells with re-rings. Weighs close to nothing. Gibraltar flat base stands, but yamaha 700 series hihat and snare stand.. just more flexible and weighs about the same. fun to see another drummers take on it. And Ludwig also sounds awesome. I sometime also bring my 12,14,20 vintage Ludwig Standard kit. Because of the lighter hardware it also weighs a LOT less than a normal Ludwig.
Perfect for working drummer is two sets of the same type drums IE say Ludwig??? A couple of good snare drums, 20+22" bass drums, 12+13" toms and 24+16" floor toms!! Plan ahead and mix and match! Deep modern bass drums? One trick ponies!! Only. Good for rock!!!😊
Thanks for the awesome video, Dylan. Based your experience, what sizes would you recommend if I just have one drum set for gigging AND for recording? (Diameter and depth), playing mostly rock, pop, blues, singer/songwriter stuff, and some jazz standards, nothing too hardcore heavy or bebop. I assume you still recommend the classic maples. Also for snares, if I just have 2 snares (wood tone and metal tone), what sizes and snares would you recommend? I have been struggling with this decision for a long time and I’d appreciate your feedback. Thanks in advance!
I need a blue oyster 16 floor tom export peral black color rings hoops if u can or any 16 floor pearl Blu if it can also need a 22 bass drum hoop for a Catalina gretsh. Thank if u have any thing.
Great way to nerd the setting of the drum set. I just got the Gibraltar Docking Station to get rid of the tripods. I want to make my set a nesting set to make it more portable.
I like the idea I'd down size more to a floor tom bass drum and mount the snare to a boom arm clamped onto the hihat stand with a smaller snare has a vertical mount like a 10 inch shell. That way you carry a smaller amount and smaller size equipment ditch the hardware.
I've been using ONE kit for EVERYTHING for the past 16 years, since I built it in 2006. I made it with custom Tempus fiberglass shells, which have a very wide tuning range, 10-12-14-22 (all standard depths), and a 5.5 x 14 Pearl Sensitone Brass snare. I don't change a thing about it, only the tuning. The notion that you need all different kits for different gigs is really just a crock o'sh_t.
Agreed, especially for the types of gigs I do. If I were on an arena tour, I'd probably bring something more massive, but the fact that almost this entire kit can live in the trunk of my car counts for an awful lot!
Sounds like you are an endorsement king! My go to kit is a '69 Ludwig 3 ply. Built in mufflers, high pitch absorbing mahog/poplar/clear maple shells. lightweight but sturdy '69 Atlas hardware with a Yamaha single brace HH. Supra and Jazz fest snares. Swivo, Speed King, Slingerland Yellow Jacket pedals. Single brace Lud. throne. I play the Hollwood, 4 or 5 pc. depending on gig. Soft bags (more compact) same deal on the rug! Jam block and cow bell clamped to cym. stand next to HH. 3 cym stands max. Lightweight and pretty compact! Most gigs with this, but on swing gigs, I use '48 RK's. 'Use to have 5 kits, now just these two. You are an excellent player! Cheers!
Love it! I'm endorsed by Sabian, Aquarian, Innovative Percussion, TnR Products and ProLogix. Everything on this kit is gear that I've road-tested over the years, and swear by.
@@DylanWissing That is so awesome. You are making you way! Roy Burns was my mentor. Studied all of his stuff sin 1972 when I met him. I was a rudimentary snare champion long ago. Trad. grip, BR, LB fan too. I teach the young'ns now and pick up gigs. I do like 2 felt strips on the BD with no hole. Wood beater. BR style. KA BOOM!! Haha.
@@brianchisnell1548 I can't really imagine a better way to learn than from Roy! That bass drum setup sounds amazing, and you're inspiring me to give it a try...
@@DylanWissing John Bonham was a huge BR fan. Hence, the 26 in. Bass drum, no hole, 2 felt strips. Ludwig drums in the day, were shipped with smooth white heads, no hole, and 2 felt strips! If you listen to motown, the bass drum had a note. Boom, not thud. I love a lively bass drum.
I'm just enough of a working drummer to need to think a bit ahead about whatever might be needed (or go wrong) on my next gig and plan accordingly. I have modified, tweaked and upgraded many of the parts on many Ludwig drums and kits over the years. I love that you address ( and come up with sound solutions ) to many of the challenges working drummers face on actual gigs. THANKS! This is so well produced, informative and thorough. However, I have found that while adding schlepping weight, (which sucks a bit more with every year older I get), 2.3mm drum hoops actually produce a LOWER tone than their thinner vintage-style counterparts. Now I need to retest this! Anyway, thanks for this great video!
Man I love this video, I always hauled a Yamaha stage custom be bop 3 piece and have been using that shu mount for 8+years with a d6 and it worked ok. Just got a Yamaha absolute hybrid maple 6 piece but though I love it , I really want your exact setup I’ve been contemplating exact sizes for so long but didn’t know if they would go well together. Them Ludwig’s are beautiful instruments
Great video and killer playing. Seems like a mixed message though by touting the extra sustain created by those Booty Shaker-type attachments for the snare stand, only to place a heavily dampened snare on it.
As someone who gigged semi-pro cover bands for 14+ years, pretty much 85% of the gear including the Ludwigs is what I used! Great minds think (and play) alike!
Great informative video. I especially like that little trick of putting cloth 'dampers' inside of the toms sure beats putting external damping like moongel or pieces of duct tape on the heads. I have a Sonor 'Bop' kit the toms need new batter heads when I change the heads will try that trick. Like that leather piece too to prevent 'snare bite' on the rack tom..I have a Rogers kit the rack tom has 'snare bite' blemishes will keep that in mind to prevent further damage. Nothing like tips from a regular gigging drummer. Thanks for the great info.
This video actually turned me on to the idea! I'm a big fan of 24, 13, 16 for big rock and roll but it's a lot for small gigs (most gigs). I love the "idea" of 20, 12, 14 but I just can't get into the 14" floor tom. I'm going to order a 20, 12, 15 kit from a local drum maker, I'm super stoked
@@ericskye9790 I bought a 60s MIJ set of shells because I thought they matched a black marble wrap 60s Ludwig 16 x 16 I have had for eons . They didn't match of course , but the 20 x 14 kick , 12 x 8 and 14 x 14 toms just have a really magic sound . I found myself using them a lot more than the WMP Ludwig Super Classic I usually tote around . The footprint is smaller and these days most of my gigs are smaller venues . The toms record really well , but I find myself using the 22 x 14 Super Classic kit for the punch the 20 just doesn't have .
I have a ' 78 14 x 6 1/2 Supra , I bought it 2nd hand to replace one that had been destroyed in a fire . I have had it since the early 80s , and despite having a bunch of other snare drums come and go , it has done literally thousands of gigs with me . Versatile and reliable , if it is a quiet gig , I put a donut on it , if it's a loud one , I take it off ...
Groovy vid. I been playing my 1959 Broadkaster Special Custom for 45 years. 18 x 22 deep canon bass, 14 flr, 8x6.5 10x 6.5, and my 1951 Roundbadge Progressive Jazz Snare. Nothing comes close, destroys every other kit I have seen heard or tried. Just immacculate. Funk, Soul, Jazz, Ska, Beatnik, blues, rock, punk, not one element of my kit needds changing or altering for any kind of gig. COVID never effected my playing sched thankfully, still riding 5 gigs a week, 2 studio and 3 road/local gigs no sweat
"I'm sorry, but the band is still too loud". I really felt that one.
I guess you've played that same gig, too...
It's gigs like that where you wonder why they even bothered to bring in a live band.
Love this video series, thanks for sharing!
I also use a Kelley Shu in my kit with a D6, and have also drilled an XLR plug into the shell on my gigging kit, and that has been a game changer. It's a great setup for a working drummer!!
I live in the Midwest so cold travels for gigs in the winter season. The standard Home Depot style black rubber floor mats tend to freeze up in the winter months, i.e. you’re not rolling that thing out for at least twenty minutes when you get to the gig. So I bought a gently used commercial quality floor mat from a Cintas guy for 20 bucks. Soft rubber composite that won’t freeze up.
That was terrific! And drummers...if you haven't watched Part 2, don't miss it.
I don’t know. I coulda used more cowbell.
One of the best drum gear videos I've seen. Thanks!
Love this video! I arrived at my optimum sizes too- very similar to yours as well! My is a 20 by 12 bd,12 by 8 rack Tom,and a 14 by 12 Floor Tom. I used to use an old Ludwig Clubdate kit,but then DW put out the Frequent Flyer with the HVLT shells,with lower the fundamental pitch of each drum so,to me,they sound like a size larger on each drum! Then I use ultra lightweight stands,2 amazing crash rides,or the Zildjian Constantinople series in medium to medium low weights. I love the supraphonic snare,or the tama Peter Erskine 4 by 14 wood hybrid model.
Really helpful.I'm preparing my second season of playing with a new wave cover band.Even choosing the right kit for rehearsal can be a headache.Keep more vids comming.I love my Audix D6 also.
Great audio-friendly mod on the kick, which sounds great btw. Never had a love for that audix mic but it might say it sounds great on your kit. Ciao!
A few things I love about the D6: it's relatively inexpensive, it's lightweight, and it has a sound that just says "Kick Drum" without any additional processing - especially on those smaller shows where there's not a FOH tech and the artist is mixing the show themselves. Set it and forget it!
@@DylanWissing thanks for the reply. In that regard I cannot wrap my head around the D112, in the studio though. I play a bass drum with no holes and it's so difficult for me to get a good sound. I use a rm-biv from a bit of distance but I still have to find a mic to put close to the head, and the fet 47 is too expensive for me :)
@@robertopistolesi2735 FET 47 is definitely too expensive for me, too, if that's any comfort!
pretty close to my gig kit.. i build it myself, and it out performs any stock kit I ever tried/took years of experiments with wood and bearing edges). (diameter x depth) 12x8, 15x15, 22x15 (just love that low end wooof it gives me), supra 1964, and a few other snares I carry in my trunk just in case. 4,5 mm shells with re-rings. Weighs close to nothing. Gibraltar flat base stands, but yamaha 700 series hihat and snare stand.. just more flexible and weighs about the same.
fun to see another drummers take on it. And Ludwig also sounds awesome. I sometime also bring my 12,14,20 vintage Ludwig Standard kit. Because of the lighter hardware it also weighs a LOT less than a normal Ludwig.
Perfect for working drummer is two sets of the same type drums IE say Ludwig??? A couple of good snare drums, 20+22" bass drums, 12+13" toms and 24+16" floor toms!! Plan ahead and mix and match! Deep modern bass drums? One trick ponies!! Only. Good for rock!!!😊
Is the Aquarian Hi Frequency still available? Sounds like a great head, but having a hard time finding it out there. Thanks!
Thanks for the awesome video, Dylan. Based your experience, what sizes would you recommend if I just have one drum set for gigging AND for recording? (Diameter and depth), playing mostly rock, pop, blues, singer/songwriter stuff, and some jazz standards, nothing too hardcore heavy or bebop. I assume you still recommend the classic maples. Also for snares, if I just have 2 snares (wood tone and metal tone), what sizes and snares would you recommend? I have been struggling with this decision for a long time and I’d appreciate your feedback. Thanks in advance!
I need a blue oyster 16 floor tom export peral black color rings hoops if u can or any 16 floor pearl Blu if it can also need a 22 bass drum hoop for a Catalina gretsh. Thank if u have any thing.
Lol. I have a '66 supra that I always tell people it's a year younger than me! 😂 great video bud! 🥁🥁🥁
Great way to nerd the setting of the drum set. I just got the Gibraltar Docking Station to get rid of the tripods. I want to make my set a nesting set to make it more portable.
I like the idea I'd down size more to a floor tom bass drum and mount the snare to a boom arm clamped onto the hihat stand with a smaller snare has a vertical mount like a 10 inch shell. That way you carry a smaller amount and smaller size equipment ditch the hardware.
15" toms are making a comeback! I use mine for a mini-kick as well.
Are you local to the twin cities? I have a collection of 60's blue sparkle Ludwig drums I play myself
Nope, I'm in Hoboken, New Jersey. But I love the Twin Cities Hoop Protect!
I've been using ONE kit for EVERYTHING for the past 16 years, since I built it in 2006. I made it with custom Tempus fiberglass shells, which have a very wide tuning range, 10-12-14-22 (all standard depths), and a 5.5 x 14 Pearl Sensitone Brass snare. I don't change a thing about it, only the tuning.
The notion that you need all different kits for different gigs is really just a crock o'sh_t.
Agreed, especially for the types of gigs I do. If I were on an arena tour, I'd probably bring something more massive, but the fact that almost this entire kit can live in the trunk of my car counts for an awful lot!
@@DylanWissing I drive a Honda Civic. My Rule Of Thumb is, if it doesn't fit, it doesn't go.
@@jrfrondelli2023 Love it! Plus, bandmates probably don't want a bunch of drums clogging up their stage space anyhow.
Awesome video. So cool seeing all these "tricks of the trade" from a working musician.
Great video. Thank you.
Sounds like you are an endorsement king! My go to kit is a '69 Ludwig 3 ply. Built in mufflers, high pitch absorbing mahog/poplar/clear maple shells. lightweight but sturdy '69 Atlas hardware with a Yamaha single brace HH. Supra and Jazz fest snares. Swivo, Speed King, Slingerland Yellow Jacket pedals. Single brace Lud. throne. I play the Hollwood, 4 or 5 pc. depending on gig. Soft bags (more compact) same deal on the rug! Jam block and cow bell clamped to cym. stand next to HH. 3 cym stands max. Lightweight and pretty compact! Most gigs with this, but on swing gigs, I use '48 RK's. 'Use to have 5 kits, now just these two. You are an excellent player! Cheers!
Love it! I'm endorsed by Sabian, Aquarian, Innovative Percussion, TnR Products and ProLogix. Everything on this kit is gear that I've road-tested over the years, and swear by.
@@DylanWissing That is so awesome. You are making you way! Roy Burns was my mentor. Studied all of his stuff sin 1972 when I met him. I was a rudimentary snare champion long ago. Trad. grip, BR, LB fan too. I teach the young'ns now and pick up gigs. I do like 2 felt strips on the BD with no hole. Wood beater. BR style. KA BOOM!! Haha.
@@brianchisnell1548 I can't really imagine a better way to learn than from Roy! That bass drum setup sounds amazing, and you're inspiring me to give it a try...
@@DylanWissing John Bonham was a huge BR fan. Hence, the 26 in. Bass drum, no hole, 2 felt strips. Ludwig drums in the day, were shipped with smooth white heads, no hole, and 2 felt strips! If you listen to motown, the bass drum had a note. Boom, not thud. I love a lively bass drum.
Informative and entertaining video! Excellent audio quality. Can I ask where did you find the leather tom protector? That one looks perfect.
It's called the Nomo Finish Protector. Not sure if they are still available, but they work exactly as they should if you can find one.
I'm just enough of a working drummer to need to think a bit ahead about whatever might be needed (or go wrong) on my next gig and plan accordingly. I have modified, tweaked and upgraded many of the parts on many Ludwig drums and kits over the years. I love that you address ( and come up with sound solutions ) to many of the challenges working drummers face on actual gigs. THANKS! This is so well produced, informative and thorough. However, I have found that while adding schlepping weight, (which sucks a bit more with every year older I get), 2.3mm drum hoops actually produce a LOWER tone than their thinner vintage-style counterparts. Now I need to retest this! Anyway, thanks for this great video!
Man I love this video, I always hauled a Yamaha stage custom be bop 3 piece and have been using that shu mount for 8+years with a d6 and it worked ok. Just got a Yamaha absolute hybrid maple 6 piece but though I love it , I really want your exact setup I’ve been contemplating exact sizes for so long but didn’t know if they would go well together. Them Ludwig’s are beautiful instruments
Great video and killer playing. Seems like a mixed message though by touting the extra sustain created by those Booty Shaker-type attachments for the snare stand, only to place a heavily dampened snare on it.
As someone who gigged semi-pro cover bands for 14+ years, pretty much 85% of the gear including the Ludwigs is what I used! Great minds think (and play) alike!
Great informative video. I especially like that little trick of putting cloth 'dampers' inside of the toms sure beats putting external damping like moongel or pieces of duct tape on the heads. I have a Sonor 'Bop' kit the toms need new batter heads when I change the heads will try that trick. Like that leather piece too to prevent 'snare bite' on the rack tom..I have a Rogers kit the rack tom has 'snare bite' blemishes will keep that in mind to prevent further damage. Nothing like tips from a regular gigging drummer. Thanks for the great info.
I thought you were a GMS guy?
Never heard that there is 15” floor tom available. Sounds really good too. Not too ping, not to dry.
This video actually turned me on to the idea! I'm a big fan of 24, 13, 16 for big rock and roll but it's a lot for small gigs (most gigs). I love the "idea" of 20, 12, 14 but I just can't get into the 14" floor tom. I'm going to order a 20, 12, 15 kit from a local drum maker, I'm super stoked
@@ericskye9790 I bought a 60s MIJ set of shells because I thought they matched a black marble wrap 60s Ludwig 16 x 16 I have had for eons . They didn't match of course , but the 20 x 14 kick , 12 x 8 and 14 x 14 toms just have a really magic sound . I found myself using them a lot more than the WMP Ludwig Super Classic I usually tote around . The footprint is smaller and these days most of my gigs are smaller venues . The toms record really well , but I find myself using the 22 x 14 Super Classic kit for the punch the 20 just doesn't have .
Those drums are very versatile. I have 2 60s Ludwig’s and I love them
Love it! 🥁
I laughed out loud at the singer songwriter section…so true…
Love it! When I was a kid I wanted a piccolo snare just for that Spin Doctor's fill 😅
That's a darn compelling snare drum sound, isn't it? Badass!
Just watched both parts,excellent!
It's the costume changes for me. Bravo!
Fun video! Thanks
Was kenny aronoff the teacher you referred to?
Yup!
Just had a feeling. Thats awesome
Excellent and detailed video, thank you!
1:18 I wasn't expecting that 🤣
Thanks for the info 😃👍🤙🤙
Super cool video, very informative! Thanks for the work you put in!
0:58 "Two Princess" 😉
👍Well put together
Love that there was no brand loyalty here, just all things that work for you. Nice!
𝐩𝓻Ỗ𝓂Ø𝓈Ｍ
I have a ' 78 14 x 6 1/2 Supra , I bought it 2nd hand to replace one that had been destroyed in a fire . I have had it since the early 80s , and despite having a bunch of other snare drums come and go , it has done literally thousands of gigs with me . Versatile and reliable , if it is a quiet gig , I put a donut on it , if it's a loud one , I take it off ...
Groovy vid. I been playing my 1959 Broadkaster Special Custom for 45 years. 18 x 22 deep canon bass, 14 flr, 8x6.5 10x 6.5, and my 1951 Roundbadge Progressive Jazz Snare. Nothing comes close, destroys every other kit I have seen heard or tried. Just immacculate. Funk, Soul, Jazz, Ska, Beatnik, blues, rock, punk, not one element of my kit needds changing or altering for any kind of gig. COVID never effected my playing sched thankfully, still riding 5 gigs a week, 2 studio and 3 road/local gigs no sweat
“…Ludwig worked with me…?” So, um…how do the rest of us do that exactly? 🫤
Go to any Ludwig dealer! They'll help you make exactly what you want.
@@DylanWissing Can I get them to make a hammered brass snare w/imperial lugs…that I can afford?? I’m guessing not. 😒
@@terrydrums if you happen to find two of them that fit your description and don't need the second drum, I'm in!