the last TRUE survival game [The Long Dark]
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- mostly a rant rather than a review. you get my point
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ABOUT THE GAME: The Long Dark is a thoughtful, exploration-survival experience that challenges solo players to think for themselves as they explore an expansive frozen wilderness in the aftermath of a geomagnetic disaster. There are no zombies -- only you, the cold, and all the threats Mother Nature can muster. The Long Dark is a first-person survival video game developed and published by Hinterland Studios. The player assumes the role of crash-landed bush pilot Will Mackenzie who must survive the frigid Canadian wilderness after a geomagnetic storm. The game received seed financing from the Canada Media Fund, and further funding was secured through a successful Kickstarter campaign in October 2013.
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You said that you feel like the beginning is easier than the long term survival. I am just going to say one word: _INTERLOPER_
N.O.G.O.A
The beginning IS easier. You can at least go somewhere new and find perishable food or perhaps pre-killed carcasses (I leave them for feather farms unless I’m starving to death, they won’t decompose if you don’t interact with the carcass)
So yeah, after a few hundred days all that stuff is probably exhausted unless you saved it for the long term or decorative purposes. Your only source of food is going to be cat tails (region dependent) and hunting And now with Scurvy added to the mix…surviving the long game is the real struggle. And if you’re playing Loper the world also gets Colder the longer you survive (forget where the cap is)
I’ve been playing for a long time.
Loper is a little harder at the start but it’s only because you can’t find a bow or gun lying around, and dont spawn in with matches or a bedroll and have to have a good knowledge of the maps ahead of time)
Another word: misery
you gotta love solo open world survival games
I prefer when it's co-op but i still love them
You do? they're all awful lol
I know one guy managed to survive something like 11,000 days with careful planning
i don't doubt it. You would just need to know the maps down to the last pixel and you would need to be familiar with some of the more exotic mechanics. but for us normal gamers? 100 days is plenty for me
strictly speaking, infinite survival is very possible (one korean youtuber is >11,000 days). I think it technically it has always been possible (mag lens means infinite water, beachcombed metal and birch/maple means infinite bows/arrows and infinite food by extension, fur clothing exists that can be infinitely repaired with pelts and a fishing hook (also infinite) etc.) , but with the recent update to beachcombing that allow much more common and useful items to spawn on beaches such as literal matches, it is much more realistic for even a causal player to technically survive forever even without minmaxing your matches. btw in the early morning the sky is almost always clear (even on hardest weather difficulty) so you can sneak in at least one fire with the mag-lens every day w/o burning a match.
@@ly49nkallo admittedly. i am not great at this game. i won't sit here and pretend i'm a master because i am not. I played a lot when it first came out. and i only just recently played for a bit longer on the newer version. back when i was super invested into the game, surviving for more than a couple hundred days was UNHEARD OF. casual players being able to survive indefinitely is another argument that I don't have great vantage of to tackle. in my experience, playing the game and not watching any guides, allowed me to get a 100 days before i realized the game had become extremely hard because of how i utilized my early resources. i think surviving indefinitely is not super intuitive which is MY FAULT as the player. Had i done more research and planned better I could've lived longer. i just think the way resource management changes as you near the end game is pretty neat! anyways thanks for leaving a comment. i appreciate the insight :)
It’s not careful planning. I seen that guys videos. Isn’t he Korean? All he does is go region to region and kill the bear. And he doesn’t even really hunt. He just abuses the campfire exploit and then passes time. Rinse and repeat. Kinda boring gameplay loop when handled that way. I’d like to see someone reach 11k by actually PLAYING
@@tywasatakenhandle I would suggest watching Zaknafein's videos. He is surviving for 500 days, and has talked about how surviving for a long time is possible. It's honestly very interesting, though he does like to take risks, I'm honestly shocked he hasn't lost his run yet XD.
I love how Ralf once explained the game as "after all, you are not supposed to survive." You will always die, but does it mean you are not supposed to fight for every day? I think it's why TLD inevitably gets harder towards the end - no matter if you face your end on the day 4 or 4000
reminds me most of oxygen not included. PARTICULARLY THE OLDER VERSION OF THE GAME. where your resources were completely finite and the length of your survival was entirely dependent on your ability to maximize your resources. inevitably you go into the long dark.
@@tywasatakenhandle You can actually survive forever in Long Dark, there is a guy that reached day 10 000 out there in community :) nice vid
@@badinq3206 that is incredibly shocking to me. i totally believe you because I can kindof see how it would be possible. but that seems so unreal. was it zaknafein?
@@tywasatakenhandle Not Zaknafein himself but he did a video on 2 guys that got the most days in Long Dark "Surviving Forever in The Long Dark"
Man. Project zomboid is second TRUE survival game.
“the wildlife is not only a threat but the bipolar weather is too” LMAOOO I LOVE THIS VIDEO SM
3:59 bro used his last flare, and the only long term light source he had, to save one bullet XD
did i win any style points at least
@@tywasatakenhandle you did lol
I felt actual physical pain when I saw him do that.
@@Copio2 lol
Bruh, if you play the game, you know that you need to travel like 250KM to find 10 bullets. I am all day and every day saving that bullet unless I'm planning on eating that animal. The only time a bullet is going out is if it is killing something and then feeding me. But, also for future reference, you can actually outrun the wolf. It will stalk you annoyingly for a long time but it won't charge you unless you let it get too close or you have meat on you. Just turn the other way and walk with occasional sprints. It is scary but it works most times.
I love my silent apocalypse been following since the kickstarter, and finally got the chance to start playing in 2017. I have so many hours on this game it has been my top game of the years on PlayStation wrapped multiple times- but you can’t help but love this game
i've been following the game for a while now, back when i couldn't afford a pc i used to watch mathas play through it after school and whatnot. it was this game and don't starve. i was so intrigued by the world you were placed in and the subtle story telling from both games. this game is really solid and i definitely could have spent an hour talking about it, but as long as i can get more people to experience the game for what it is, then that is good enough for me. thank you for commenting :)
I've been playing for over 1k hrs, everything and every tube is different, been trying to get to 500 days, is extremely hard, you get comfortable... you die... can't get enough of it
don't starve has the same sort of loop. Not the multiplayer version. just the base game. right now i'm doing a stalker play through. videos are up to day 5 but im on day 60. starting to feel comfortable lol. lets hope i dont die yet.
Been in the silent apocalypse for years and though, this is maybe the best explanation I've found of what it is to live all that despair.
Thanks.
So some things you messed up is this;
1. Your condition bar. While yes you said don't allow the 4 main meters to drain completely you can survive fairly long with all drained individually. Temperature is the hardest of the bunch as you can die within 10 minutes of hypothermia IRL time. Your condition bar (which is the bar below the 4 meters) will rapidly drain unless you make a fire or find proper shelter. Yes proper shelter not all shelters are made the same and some shelters work against you at times. Fatigue which as you mentioned is the easiest to conquer, you die within like 3 or 4 days in game with it drained as it takes 1% every hour in game or something like that. Thirst is like number 2 to manage not the last. Sure it's easy to over come but you have to CONSTANTLY drink water in this game which makes it a valuable resource and you will die within 2 days of not drinking. Hunger can be used to your advantage at times cuz you can starve yourself enough to make food, and if you're playing on the hardest difficulty you will be starving for the first few weeks in game purposefully (trust me on this one, Interloper is not a joke and resources are rarer than me getting a girlfriend). Allow any of these bars to deplete and yes you will slowly start to die. But the bars can be overcome by the amount of gear you have.
2. Your nitpicks. I get why you don't like the fact you can't just sleep on the ground anywhere but if you understood how fuckin cold the ground is during winter let alone sleeping on snow/ice you would most likely die before you woke up even with the best gear on. Gear becomes more rare because you are using it more throughout your game, but take hope because I can explain some cool things to you. There is this thing called a Milling Machine and there are two locations for them, of which I will keep secret as they are on Wikis and I want people to find them. Anyway, this machine can only be used during the Aurora and can be used to repair tools and weapons (except the bows) with 1 Scrap of Metal each and if I'm not mistaken it can repair broken tools as well (but don't quote me on that as I've never dealt with this issue yet). But to say that the game gets harder "The closer you are to the end" is kinda wrong as hopefully by the time get fully geared with endgame items you won't die unless you mess up completely. Of course I've been playing this game for almost a decade, so my chances of survival are extremely high compared to a new comers first day.
thank you for taking the time to type out this very thorough argument. i can tell you're passionate about the game and that's fucking awesome. i'm an avid video game enjoyer. myself. i definitely stressed the importance of the meters almost to a hyperbolic degree. i used their importance to showcase the main gameplay loop in a simple way that is easy for most people to understand. my opinion on what is easiest is definitely just an opinion. i have not taken the time to master the game on interloper and i can see how that would change some things. i think my nitpicks are just that, they're nitpicks. i'd like to see some more freedom in safehouse creation, sleeping anywhere and possibly some more end game content and craftables. i think i've enjoyed the fact that as the game progresses you slowly shift away from the scavenged goods and move towards the crafted gear. i think that transition is really neat. i haven't survived for a super long time like some people so my inclination that the end game is harder could entirely be opinionated as well. it's not something i particularly dislike that's just how i feel about it. anyways. thanks for your time mate, appreciate u :)
if you cant start a fire to melt snow then there is always the option of drinking toilet water, its nothing to be ashamed of, we've all done it
I really like your view about survival games. Btw. there were optimizations like adding scurvy to make the hunger mechanic more interesting or adding advanced cooking which makes the game a lot more fun XD
there are so few survival games that are actually about SURVIVAL. i feel like it's just a tacked on feature or an afterthought. but the long dark is different.
... at the same time!
I absolutely loved how you described the game, the goods and the bad. But man, if this is not a 10/10 game, what is then!
still into my stalker run. day eighty now. it's my go to when i have absolutely nothing to do. what a masterpiece
Hunger, thirst and temperature can drop to zero and you can still save yourself. The problem really is your condition and managing this resource is the real struggle of the game.
i agree, any beginner can easily manage those stats early into the game, it's about doing it consistently for multiple weeks. and i think that's what is so fascinating to me
@@tywasatakenhandle Another survival game that comes close to this intensity, for me, is project zomboid.
@@JudahDavis awh hell yeah, i've been a connoisseur for a long time, very eagerly awaiting b42
@@tywasatakenhandlehell yeah fellow zomboid player
TRUE! bolting a pair of wheels to your dad's legs wouldn't make him a race car. It would make him a motorcycle 😂
motorcycles are soo cool man. and i really want one eventually, but the problem is that everytime i mention this to somebody. they always have a "story" on why i shouldn't lol.
Underrated comment
The Needs are calibrated well with your Condition. Makes them fair and realistic at the same time. If you get 0 hunger you don't die right away you just lose condition in between a couple of minutes, same goes for the other conditions. Condition is basically your health bar. Of course time management is important if you decide to sleep or do some kind of work you lose more condition if any of your Needs are at 0 because those things eat up time. You have to always take care of your Needs and your illnesses before going to sleep or doing something or you lose condition from the time spent on doing task.
The 'keg is about my favorite region. In the fog? Yeah, going back to Mystery Lake.
this game scares me due to the fact that pretty much every resource is finite
The game is truly a survival game, once you learn the meta it gets easier, but still if you choose to play Interloper or worse N.O.G.O.A. than no experience on earth can help you when the game simply decides "F U". You really feel like stranded alone in a frozen wasteland trying to not die every day. It has it's problems of course but that is more in the field of "entertainment value vs realism"; For example IRL cooked meat should be parasite free, IRL you could just make flint and tinder or just use sticks, IRL Climbing one friggin rope don't make you tired like 12hrs of dayjob, IRL if you work hard for long you sweat and that freezes on you causing hypothermia, IRL auroras are there 24/7 no matter the weather or daytime etc. The game is scarry, geomagnetic event auroras suddenly powering electric devices by themselves, glimmer fog electricuting the ground, all that gives this erie sense of unease.
I really enjoy this game. and N.O.G.O.A was a really interesting watch :) i think the best part of this game is just its atmosphere. It feels scary. you realize how alone you are. it's nothing but silence until you come across a wolf in the middle of the wasteland. i'm sure learning the meta would definitely improve my odds but i feel like learning the meta, watching videos and reading the wiki would destroy the mystery and the very tense atmosphere. the howling wind, the cry of a distant wolf, the crunching of ice underneath your boots, the audible silence of the snow falling. It's an extremely eerie game and i like it that way. anyways thanks for coming. appreciate u sharing :)
TLD is the rhe best survival game ever, I play it as a survival expert and it has all elements on survival - elements are your worst enemies and then you need to get shelter and food and it really act like that. Maps and additional content in 2023 and more coming in the next month or two will make it masterpiece
absolutely one of the best i've every played. up there with Zomboid. definitely not the same style as TLD but Oxygen Not Included, Stationeers,(someone recommended it to me and it's really solid) Don't Starve Together, Rimworld(?) are all super awesome games with an emphasis on survival and survival mechanics but i have never played something like The Long Dark, definitely a masterpiece
Look at Stationeers. It's also a true survival game but it's very complex.
Nice video mate love the style you use. I have been looking at getting this and watching a lot of videos still not sure if I should get this as I have played a few survival games and never really got into them ( plus I am old 63 and the reactions are not what they used be).
If you don't enjoy survival games this is definitely not for you but, I can tell you that you don't need impeccable reaction time or super precise call of duty champion level aiming. It's a simple premise that I myself can find mostly relaxing (unless in the rare event some bear decides to throw down with me). it's hard but it's also pretty intuitive and easy to learn from your mistakes. there's a lot of time you can totally soak into this game if you've got the time. anywho, thanks for stopping by my friend :)
@@tywasatakenhandle Cheers mate.
@philipgreen8091 I'm saying this as a person with terrible motor control and reflexes - it won't be a big issue. Especially if you tune "accessibility settings" to your needs. Overall, very rarely things there depends on reaction time - it's more of a strategy game than anything. But I totally understand the reservation to buy/try it. You can start with watching other people play (preferably Survival mode - so no spoilers to the story mode in case you will end up trying it for yourself). Here on RUclips players like @Zaknafein have tons of content that aren't edited videos but just the game itself. Even if you'll decide not to play - those can be fun to watch on its own
@@i-will-bite yup i agree with the sentiment that it's a strategy game more than anything. it's all about trading resources for other resources dependent on what you need. also yeah i really enjoy what Zaknafein is doing and i encourage you to look at some of his content. overall the game is super accessible to just about anyone
I think older folk enjoy this game more than younger folk. It's not crazy ADHD driven graphic explosions. It has been called a walking simulator. At 50 y.o. I love this game. Every year when the weather gets cold I fire up TLD and play for the ambiance. Buy it, you might love it like I do. Survival mode all the way, I've never touched story mode.
Great vid. Bump up the audio or compress
roger that soldier. i just need to remember to do it early before I start separating the video into clips lol
youre hilarious dude, love your commentary lmao
I think project zomboid is the second
Good video. I tend to be picky about what I spend $ on, but I'd recommend the Long Dark, but only for the survival mode. It's a success at keeping me interested (exploring the areas) and so far I've only played on the Voyageur level, so Interloper is next, I guess. It's rather like walking through a vast Group Of Seven painting, with really nice occasional music.
However, I hated the story mode game, mostly because of that stupid bear, and how I kept dying over and over, with little chance of success, and the dying process takes too long. So you die, start again, have a few seconds to figure out where the spear is, die, spawn again...lather, rinse, repeat. As with so many games, the developers seem to love putting you into situations that are stupidly, needlessly, pointlessly difficult, to the point where I just quit. I ask myself "why am I doing this? I'm supposed to be having fun, but I'm hating this." Just give us a way to skip those sections, for the love of God.
this is an excellent comment and i think it points out my frustration with some other roguelites and roguelikes. difficulty for the sake of difficulty is exceptionally annoying. sometimes it's an oversight and sometimes it's intentional. I feel like (although completely unrelated) Destiny 2 and Diablo IV have inflated numbers to make the game harder for the sake of making it harder. it's not enjoyable at all. i also hated the story mode. i found it redundant and uninspired but i really enjoy the survival sandbox mode. anyways thanks for stopping in
The Long Dark is great 👍
Nice🎉
MECHANICS BABY GOTTA LEARN THE MECHANI
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MECHANICS
Loved the video man
thank you :) appreciate the words friend
This was a good review, but god please keep your audio levels mastered evenly next time. Nothing sucked more than trying to watch this at night without waking up my gf, having your voice at barely audible levels only to have you suddenly yelling out my speakers. Try listening through it on speakers as well as headphones before rendering / publishing, you can shift the volume a *little* bit for emphasizing certain clips, but if you don't use that *very* sparingly you're going to turn viewers away
I'm sorry downtown ontario, ontario is not a city it's a province, in which I live in the not so lovely city of greater Sudbury where a walk through downtown means you are constantly watching out for needles, luckily downtown is small
to be totally honest i don't know much about Canada. and you're probably totally right i just saw low hanging fruit and went for it lol. i think the west coast of America is much more unsafe and is much more intensely dangerous in my very minimal experience with Canada
@tywasatakenhandle it's okay I liked the review
@@evanrieux668 i'll take what i can get !
All i want a dang gun. F'kin wolves man. just bought the game yesterday lol and already want to pull my air out
3:25 NOOOB! Just kill rabbits with stone. The caveman way.
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Sons of the Forest, hello?
Yes long dark very good game
playing it right now as i type this comment
@@tywasatakenhandle me too
I am day 27 cooking wolf meat in fishing hut in mystery lake a personal record for me in interloper
❤
Love this game cant stop stealing wolf kills armed with stones, i do die al lot though but worth when it worksout
throwing rocks at bunnies gotta be the funniest thing in the world idk why. maybe i'm a psycho.
@@tywasatakenhandle nothing wrong with it, unless it jumps up as u get there what happens a lot, I like trying to get them from a distance
😂😂😂 dome a moose with a .38
Omg I peed
This is so funny
The Long Dark is PEAK survival games. I hate survival games that force you to build mansions. I'm like is this even survival anymore if I'm living in a souped up mansion in the mountains. It's just vacation at this point. If you take shelter you take shelter in a beat up old abandoned factory or in a goddamn cave. Enough with the build shit thing. Do you know how much energy, smarts and materials you really need to build those things?
Green Hell does it good with the nutritional needs but it still plagued with the build your mansion disease.
I was here pre 1k subs LETS GO
:) happy to have u
This video is saying the truth
Except for pros who can kill bears by day 3
@@lizardskin111-of3pt true, unfortunately i'm a turbo pussy
No its not. Though it is a really well made one.
I haven't found a refined survival game yet. and the biggest titles i've found have been relatively horrible and not very polished. I thought stranded deep was a disaster, the forest was extremely tedious and clunky and green hell is just an abomination (just a few examples). most games ive found have just some tacked on survival element like hunger. but it's never something you have to genuinely worry about. this is the only game i've played where survival is the ONLY objective and the core gameplay loop revolves around that only objective. I'm sure there are games like that out there, i've just yet to find them unfortunately.
@@tywasatakenhandle thats fair. Its a great game.
@@tywasatakenhandle project zomboid is another where survival is the goal. Its even more detailed, in that you can over eat and get fat or not exercise and lose strength, etc. There are a couple out there. I love TLD however. I stopped playing though when one of their updates corrupted my main survival save. I had hundreds of days and was not wanting to start it all over. Still a good game tho.
@@tywasatakenhandle dont starve is another good one, its pretty hard.
@@nathanburgett1599 i have like 800 hours in the franchise, absolutely love that game
The forest is better tho
Debatable.
Go Interloper or go home.
true but i'm unfortunately a raging coward
A true survival game would allow spears, sling shots, atlatls, binoculars, bow saws, bungee pits and flint. You get lost? Drop a stick. It always points N. A couple thoughts on this "true survival game". It is set in nowhere Canada. How many sq miles in all those maps? And there are just two guns (and no liquor)? LMFAO Flowing waterfalls in sub-zero weather? SMH Breaking ice in sub-zero weather (maybe)? Thawed snow that never refreezes? Steaks laying on the snow that don't freeze? Just some of the unrealistic things you'll find in this fantasy "survival game". The horizontal placement menu is a mess - no wrap - selection should be by double click no matter what slot it appears in - mouse wheel won't move it - what a waste of time for the player "who is trying to survive"
first and foremost i don't think this is realistic. i think it is a semi-realistic survival simulator created with intent to entertain casual gamers. and as such it is crafted to reduce a perceived monotony to the largest audience so it can sell well as a video game. with that being said this is one of the only refined semi-realistic survival games I (personally) have played. I do agree that more items and tools should be able to be crafted and i think it's rather silly and limiting that you can't customize a safehouse to your liking. it'd be sick as hell to mount a deer on my door. there are a lot of problems with the game but regardless i think this is was a unique experience that not many other titles can share. Accordingly, i will enjoy it until another title satisfies this niche genre. Until then, hopefully i don't get goal kicked by a fucking bear.
cheers
@@tywasatakenhandle A creative team could work a lot of the tools I listed into the various difficulty levels that already exist. There is no excuse for that menu. Pure laziness!
Somebody couldn't make it more than five days and is super bitter about it.
@@Copio2 You comment drips with social media disease.
@@donnanorth7324 Cope harder