I got it mixed up in the video, @ofra8191 corrected my error. Bang PD wanted MHJ to created a girl group (new jeans) to overtake Aespa as competition. Not step down so they can thrive. My mistake.
That is a very interesting situation indeed. But I really just want these adults to figure it out. I don’t like to see new jeans or illit going through this kind of undo stress.
@@bonbon6.235 I agree completely. Let them file their lawsuits and work it out. The music industry is full of stealing in any country, not just Korea. Let the poor kids work and have their dreams fulfilled. ✨
You got a lot of you're information wrong.... first of all, Min Hee Jin (MHJ) has no leg to stand on accusing anyone of copying New Jeans (NJ) when it's been proven recently that they are a carbon copy of a Mexican 90s girl group called Jeans, and I mean a complete copy, same styling, used the same shots in MVs, same font, same album names etc. they copied EVERYTHING, NJ's director even admitted to it. Illit might have take A LOT of inspiration from NJ, but they don't come CLOSE to the level of copy paste that NJ did. and the very little that WASN'T copied from Jeans, can be traced to several first gen kpop girl groups, like S.E.S. She doesn't even deserve to SAY the word plagiarism unless it's to confess. second, the Aespa thing. He didn't want them to thrive, it's the complete opposite, they were competition, he hired MHJ with the direct order to create a girl group that would "CRUSH Aespa" and she agreed to it, she's just as at fault in this, and in this case, SM has nothing to do with anything except that both of the idiots involved wanted to destroy them. and Hybe rarely allows their idols to do ANYTHING with anyone outside of HYBE, so that's not specific to NJ. Now, I'm not a fan of HYBE and it's CEO, but between him and MHJ, I'd preferer all underage idols and trainees to be with him and not with her. At least HE doesn't have a KNOWN and WELL DOCUMENTED history of p*dophilic behaivior and tendencies. that women is SICK and shouldn't be in the vicinity, let alone in control, of ANY minors. After what she did to Minho and Taemin, she should have been blocked from ever working again. both of them, as well as Minho's mom, still can't look at the Sherlock album. I don't think any underage person should debut, in fact, I ACTIVELY avoid listening to ANY group that currently has any underage members in it, but if they're going to debut anyway, the LEAST they can do is make sure that people like HER are not allowed anywhere near them and not allowed to make any decision concerning them. besides that, MHJ's text messages were exposed where both she AND her staff where TRASH TALKING the NJ girls, calling them fat, untalented and more and saying that ALL their success is just because of MHJ. That women is HORRIBLE. but the girls AND their parents are COMPLETELY brainwashed by MHJ and they do whatever she tells them to do. I, personally, feel that an adult idol has the right to choose their own faith, if they choose to sign their lives to a company, it's their choice, as you said, at this point, they know what they're signing up for. underage idols, on the other hand, don't have the mental maturity to make decisions like this, especially the really young ones, and that's why I actively choose not to support groups that currently have underage members. if every person that complains on the internet about how wrong it is to debut minors did the same instead of buying their albums and streaming their music, it would hurt what the companies value most, their money, and they'd change their ways and debut older idols. But, as it currently stands, they see the complaints but those same people who cry in the comment sections turn right around and mass stream and mass buy and line the companies pockets, and they know that the complaints don't matter, that debuting minors brings more attention that causes more sales and so they do it more.
Thank you for the aespa correction. I was really confused why he would want another group from a different company to thrive. It makes more sense that he wanted them for competition. And I didn’t know new jeans was a copy of another group, albeit that makes a lot of sense considering K-pop in general is a copy. I’m fully with you about debuting minors, especially knowing everything they go through up to that point, it’s heinous. I do remember those photos from Sherlock as well, MHJ is a weird woman for doing any of that, I too was very confused seeing those photos for the first time. I personally don’t trust either of them, Bang PD or MHJ. I’m solely worried about the girls in this, they are the ones that are truly suffering.
I got it mixed up in the video, @ofra8191 corrected my error. Bang PD wanted MHJ to created a girl group (new jeans) to overtake Aespa as competition. Not step down so they can thrive. My mistake.
It's such a difficult question isn't it - where does inspiration end and copying begin...
That is a very interesting situation indeed. But I really just want these adults to figure it out. I don’t like to see new jeans or illit going through this kind of undo stress.
@@bonbon6.235 I agree completely. Let them file their lawsuits and work it out. The music industry is full of stealing in any country, not just Korea. Let the poor kids work and have their dreams fulfilled. ✨
You got a lot of you're information wrong.... first of all, Min Hee Jin (MHJ) has no leg to stand on accusing anyone of copying New Jeans (NJ) when it's been proven recently that they are a carbon copy of a Mexican 90s girl group called Jeans, and I mean a complete copy, same styling, used the same shots in MVs, same font, same album names etc. they copied EVERYTHING, NJ's director even admitted to it. Illit might have take A LOT of inspiration from NJ, but they don't come CLOSE to the level of copy paste that NJ did. and the very little that WASN'T copied from Jeans, can be traced to several first gen kpop girl groups, like S.E.S. She doesn't even deserve to SAY the word plagiarism unless it's to confess.
second, the Aespa thing. He didn't want them to thrive, it's the complete opposite, they were competition, he hired MHJ with the direct order to create a girl group that would "CRUSH Aespa" and she agreed to it, she's just as at fault in this, and in this case, SM has nothing to do with anything except that both of the idiots involved wanted to destroy them. and Hybe rarely allows their idols to do ANYTHING with anyone outside of HYBE, so that's not specific to NJ.
Now, I'm not a fan of HYBE and it's CEO, but between him and MHJ, I'd preferer all underage idols and trainees to be with him and not with her. At least HE doesn't have a KNOWN and WELL DOCUMENTED history of p*dophilic behaivior and tendencies. that women is SICK and shouldn't be in the vicinity, let alone in control, of ANY minors. After what she did to Minho and Taemin, she should have been blocked from ever working again. both of them, as well as Minho's mom, still can't look at the Sherlock album. I don't think any underage person should debut, in fact, I ACTIVELY avoid listening to ANY group that currently has any underage members in it, but if they're going to debut anyway, the LEAST they can do is make sure that people like HER are not allowed anywhere near them and not allowed to make any decision concerning them.
besides that, MHJ's text messages were exposed where both she AND her staff where TRASH TALKING the NJ girls, calling them fat, untalented and more and saying that ALL their success is just because of MHJ. That women is HORRIBLE. but the girls AND their parents are COMPLETELY brainwashed by MHJ and they do whatever she tells them to do.
I, personally, feel that an adult idol has the right to choose their own faith, if they choose to sign their lives to a company, it's their choice, as you said, at this point, they know what they're signing up for. underage idols, on the other hand, don't have the mental maturity to make decisions like this, especially the really young ones, and that's why I actively choose not to support groups that currently have underage members. if every person that complains on the internet about how wrong it is to debut minors did the same instead of buying their albums and streaming their music, it would hurt what the companies value most, their money, and they'd change their ways and debut older idols. But, as it currently stands, they see the complaints but those same people who cry in the comment sections turn right around and mass stream and mass buy and line the companies pockets, and they know that the complaints don't matter, that debuting minors brings more attention that causes more sales and so they do it more.
Thank you for the aespa correction. I was really confused why he would want another group from a different company to thrive. It makes more sense that he wanted them for competition. And I didn’t know new jeans was a copy of another group, albeit that makes a lot of sense considering K-pop in general is a copy. I’m fully with you about debuting minors, especially knowing everything they go through up to that point, it’s heinous. I do remember those photos from Sherlock as well, MHJ is a weird woman for doing any of that, I too was very confused seeing those photos for the first time. I personally don’t trust either of them, Bang PD or MHJ. I’m solely worried about the girls in this, they are the ones that are truly suffering.