Underrated Weapon Mods and Elitism in DOOM Eternal

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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    Micro Missiles! Destroyer Blade! Microwave Beam! The underrated weapon mods have a place in Doom Eternal.
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  • @underthemayo
    @underthemayo  3 года назад +131

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    • @vargamarioalexan9853
      @vargamarioalexan9853 3 года назад +13

      4 days ago lol the video just came out less than 15 minutes ago

    • @valletas
      @valletas 3 года назад +2

      I would love to see your thoughts on the slayer testament quake mod
      It works like a breed of 2016 and eternal you are going to love it

    • @GoldDirtPie
      @GoldDirtPie 3 года назад

      i love your vids mayo

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +5

      @@GoldDirtPie I love your name.

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +5

      @@valletas I'll get there some day

  • @BishopHavel
    @BishopHavel 3 года назад +1980

    No no I specifically remember King Novic telling me “precision bolt and lock on until it is done”

    • @skeletonnoise6178
      @skeletonnoise6178 3 года назад +201

      Let me also guess he said “You shall be their meat hook”

    • @alexiryo
      @alexiryo 3 года назад +128

      Against all the destroyer blades that Hugo Martin can produce

    • @jacobr7729
      @jacobr7729 3 года назад +121

      "They fear the mark of the rocket-ballista combo!" -Street Prophet

    • @sn1pertoaster
      @sn1pertoaster 3 года назад +33

      super shotgun + arbalest until it is done

    • @YouthRightsRadical
      @YouthRightsRadical 3 года назад +30

      Why are you listening to Mr. "You cannot kill the priests!"? I'll bet you didn't shoot a hole in Mars either.

  • @alphaman03
    @alphaman03 3 года назад +430

    I want to hear Mayo give me life advice in his typical style, like: "So you're at an interview, you go in with a joke to break the ice, you quick swap to talking about your qualifications for an easy combo, then you finish it off with a discussion of your strengths to seal the deal; but the interviewer counters with a question about your weaknesses, so you stun them with a remote discussion of a flaw that's actually a strength, and you go in for the glory kill with an anecdote from a past project."

  • @killian9314
    @killian9314 3 года назад +189

    "I'm not sure mayo isn't directing the game at this point" - Hugo Martin.

    • @abd-qadirgilani8871
      @abd-qadirgilani8871 3 года назад +7

      Wait did he actually say that?

    • @killian9314
      @killian9314 3 года назад +35

      @@abd-qadirgilani8871 yes, in a stream.

    • @placeadrien5566
      @placeadrien5566 3 года назад +28

      That's so cool :D
      Reading this made me happy.
      Congrats to Hugo and Id for making an awesome game, and to Mayo for understanding it

    • @ThatKoukiZ31
      @ThatKoukiZ31 3 года назад +28

      That was so epic when I heard that. Such insanely high praise for the game director to be calling out a fan like that.

    • @killian9314
      @killian9314 3 года назад +21

      @@ThatKoukiZ31 Hugo is the Creative director, he Is the soul of new doom, but the game director is Marty Stratton

  • @hyrumtaylor3581
    @hyrumtaylor3581 3 года назад +107

    Yes, don't make fun of players who play on low levels. Build them up, let's all celebrate this game together.

    • @garrettk7166
      @garrettk7166 3 года назад +14

      Agreed.
      "The UV players of today are the Nightmare & Ultra-Nightmare players of tomorrow" - Hugo Martin
      Same thing can be said about the even lower difficulty :)

    • @hyrumtaylor3581
      @hyrumtaylor3581 3 года назад +4

      @@garrettk7166 100% true, my first playthrough was UV. Now I've beaten base game and DLC UN no cheese

    • @majamystic256
      @majamystic256 3 года назад +3

      @@garrettk7166
      My current playthrough is Ultra Violence (which im going to 100% all secret items, weapon points, suit tokens, sentinel batteries, Empreyran keys for the Unmayker, Secret Enounters, Weapon Mods and Masteries, and stuff on)
      I have started a Nightmare playthrough on the side that ill get back to after I finish the UV one

    • @jethrodark2372
      @jethrodark2372 3 года назад +3

      Most of us only make fun of the people who quit cause they say its to hard on "im too young to die" lets be real if u cant beat Doom on the lowest difficulty the FPS genre isnt for you.

    • @cerealboss425
      @cerealboss425 2 года назад +2

      @@jethrodark2372 lol my very first play through I played on too young to die and I think I died one time it was way way to easy

  • @Jaden-Ring
    @Jaden-Ring 3 года назад +255

    I could listen to mayo talk for hours

    • @joseaparicio2168
      @joseaparicio2168 3 года назад +6

      He dose have a podcast

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 3 года назад +3

      @@joseaparicio2168 i wanna watch it

    • @the_mse
      @the_mse 3 года назад +6

      @@baohweeb6935 then go watch it

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 3 года назад +5

      @@the_mse ok

    • @the_mse
      @the_mse 3 года назад +2

      @@baohweeb6935 D O I T

  • @MystikNoodle
    @MystikNoodle 3 года назад +11

    I am a super casual when it comes to FPS games and I love DOOM Eternal. I bought the game day 1 and also felt that sense of being overwhelmed by all the fighting mechanics and emphasis on resource management. Though I didn't feel the game was too hard, it definitely intimidated this gamer that spends most of his time in sandboxes or RPGs. I would just occasionally play the first few levels over and over to get my fix of bloody demon slaying and that's all I ever wanted from the game. I approach my games differently than a lot of gamers. I like to take my time, so that's how I approached DOOM Eternal. Over this last year I watched videos of people ragging on the Marauders and it put me off on pushing through the main campaign, figuring I would have to get real GUD to beat this game without cheats even on easy mode.
    Then I started watching your videos and any others I could find that didn't sound like a b*tch session about the game, and it reignited my interest in the game. I'm having a blast learning how to meat hook better and just get better at the DOOM dance in general. I'm still at the "Supershotgun/Ballista" or "Supershotgun/Rocket" combo level of game play, but that's enough for this low-tier player to wreck a Marauder when I get him in my sights. Thanks for all the pointers, Mayo! Keep up the good work!

  • @alexesmeralda1713
    @alexesmeralda1713 2 года назад +1

    I remember the first time i watched this video. I had bought Eternal at a steam sale earlier this year and played non-stop for about 2 days. After that, i decided to check some videos and gameplays to see other people's opinions on this game, and i eventually found your channel. Not only did this introduce me to the amazing community this franchise as a whole has, but also kinda make me love the game more?
    It made me want to replay the levels many times and experiment with all of the tools at my disposal, and eventually found my preferred playstyle, staying on the air, constantly meathooking and pretty much bombing hordes with anything explosive at my disposal. Once i got that figured out, i decided to go from exclusively playing Hurt me plenty/UV to trying out Nightmare.
    Now i have around 375 hours spent and i continue to find new ways to enjoy it.
    What i'm trying to say is, your videos are a blessing for new players trying to understand this game's mechanics and intricacies. They made me be more confindent in my style and ways to handle arenas and big fights, and to just appreciate everything the game has to offer, so thanks a lot for that!

  • @claudealpha2090
    @claudealpha2090 3 года назад +11

    We don't have the time to experiment with different playstyles, because the longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger it becomes.

  • @jonathanbrockway5861
    @jonathanbrockway5861 3 года назад

    Excellent stuff - like many people I have dedicated a serious portion of my life to this game since it came out. The truly glorious part about it is (as Mayo demonstrates perfectly) that you can change it up as much or as little as you please - playing with those mods that we are all dismissed when the game came out has breathed new life into it for me. Mayo once said that game developers rarely care this much about the player experience and the depth of thought and planning but into Doom Eternal is mind-blowing, truly people who clearly love what they do.
    Kudos to Mayo also for his detailed , but entertaining Doom videos, he's definitely inspired me to try a few different strategies - they don't always work but hell, that just makes it all the more fun. The level of dedication to your craft is above and beyond dude, please don't stop okay?😎👍

  • @owlgoddess8534
    @owlgoddess8534 3 года назад +6

    i had no idea people thought micro missiles were bad, they’ve always been one of my favorite mods

    • @jethrodark2372
      @jethrodark2372 3 года назад

      Its really good against a doomhunter it destroys their sled fast with their shield up and u dont have to aim that well to use it, really good if u out of bloodpunch.

    • @owlgoddess8534
      @owlgoddess8534 3 года назад

      @@jethrodark2372 100%, especially combined with super shotgun, it makes that first fight SO much easier

  • @simisonic1741
    @simisonic1741 3 года назад +1

    Dude, never stop making these. I love hearing you talk about this game. Now that I've finally gotten to play it for myself, I'm appreciating what I've learned from these videos so much more.

  • @steinfakinaway6854
    @steinfakinaway6854 3 года назад +5

    The doom dance right?
    Me: uhmm.. y-yes, right

  • @SamuelTrademarked
    @SamuelTrademarked 2 года назад +1

    Personally, my mod list for 2016 and eternal is this
    2016:
    Combat Shotgun: Charged Burst
    Heavy Assault Rifle: Micro Missiles
    Plasma rifle: Stun bomb
    Rocket Launcher: Lock on
    Gauss Cannon: Siege mode (though I only use it for DKSMS)
    Chaingun: Mobile turret.
    Eternal
    Combat Shotgun: Sticky Bombs (Fight me)
    Heavy Cannon: Prec bolt
    Plasma rifle: Microwave Beam
    Rocket Launcher: Lock on burst
    Ballista: Arbalest
    Chaingun: Shield
    Yeah it seems pretty generic. I see a lot more people using Destroyer Blade now. I am a lock on burst worshipper, although I initially tried remote detonation. Rem det feels more like a niche mod for mod.
    I think my playstyle is like a hybrid (ish) of speedrunner and medium level player. I do try to find trigger enemies whenever possible and use some speedrunner strategies for early levels (chainsawing early heavies like in the Mancubus pit or Arachnotrons on hell on earth) and break off into normal play once we're past that. I will intentionally not use the Chainsaw in some arenas so I can easily get a chainsaw on a heavy demon for most of early game (thanks Decino). It helps a lot and fits my playstyle very well.

  • @pinkliongaming8769
    @pinkliongaming8769 Год назад +1

    "Use the Ice Grenade and Unleash Hell"
    It'll be a cold day in Hell when the Doom Slayer is the one, Unleashing Hell!

  • @et2624
    @et2624 3 года назад +1

    Nice video Mayo 👍🏽
    After beating UN sgn ml on ps4.. I’ve definitely enjoyed utilizing micro missiles and rd a lot more.
    It definitely helps with crowd control

  • @bruh-mo5dh
    @bruh-mo5dh 3 года назад +1

    Intestingly I choose full auto, micro missles,microwave beam, remote detonation and destroyer blade WITHOUT knowing what the hell I was doing

  • @vfps4796
    @vfps4796 Год назад +1

    Still to this day I play Eternal consistently, and still to this day, people give me shit about not playing on nightmare, or not being "good" at the game. When it's your world, you can play the way you want. It doesn't matter what people think. Thank you, Mayo.

    • @ChurlyCheerilee
      @ChurlyCheerilee 5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh hey man, I've been watching your vids. They're great. Screw the haters; play how you want!

  • @ollytherevenant1653
    @ollytherevenant1653 3 года назад

    I used to write off the destroyer blade, but your experimental style encouraged me to try and change things up and I figured out the ice bomb and destroyer blade on a weakened super heavy demon usually eliminates them or gets them close enough to death where I can finish them off. I’m glad you made this video encouraging players to play their own way and not emulate what others are doing, because this game allows a lot of creativity and room for different playstyles and players need to realize to have fun in the ways they like the most and start experimenting.

  • @neotron6490
    @neotron6490 2 года назад

    This vid was very reflective to nerdslayer's "The curse of Meta in MMORPG" video about Elitism and Metagame especially in general. I absolutely already agreed about it too, Playstyle will still always matter more than Build Kitting in the world of action-based video game

  • @whereskentuckybruce8245
    @whereskentuckybruce8245 3 года назад

    I find the microwave beam is useful against single target threats. If there is only one tyrant or baron left and some fodder, you can microwave it with little worry about being killed.

  • @mobzgaming9777
    @mobzgaming9777 3 года назад

    Can we talk about how clockner made use of his entire arsenal back in doom 2016 and looked absolutely epic

  • @Heymian
    @Heymian 3 года назад +1

    I was stuck on The Holt for weeks. Could not get past the part with two Tyrants (one possessed). Then I watched this video. The problem was, I was trying to imitate the play style of a speed runner. Switching my weapons and mods, particularly the charge beam on the plasma rifle, I beat the encounter on the second try.

  • @Gnamut
    @Gnamut 3 года назад

    Let me tell you that, even if I subscribed earlier to your channel thanks to some very useful tutorial videos of yours, this video is the one that not only proves that I was right, but also encourages me more on keep trying more of Doom Eternal, even on HMP, a difficulty mode I was already asuming that was not for me.
    Thank you for your last tip. It makes me feel more comfortable with this game now.

  • @metawolf987
    @metawolf987 3 года назад

    My biggest personal problem while playing Eternal, was stressing about not taking damage. This, combined with the fact that I only play with controller, influenced me to resign to using mainly 2 weapons, instead of utilizing other weapons and mods that might actually be useful in different situations. I only brought out the Sticky Bomb to stagger Cacodemons, and I only brought out the Arbalest to deal max damage to Pain Elementals.
    When I start my next playthrough, I will try to prioritize staying on the move and evading damage, so that I switch to alternate weapons that might be more optimal in different situations. Granted, this will be much more possible to do in the DLCs, because in those, every upgrade will be available at the start. Still, I will try to adopt a more relaxed playstyle during the main campaign as well.

  • @Lakezhealme
    @Lakezhealme 3 года назад

    As a huge fan of the Full Auto, Destroyer Blade and Precision bolt, I gotta say I love your commentary.

  • @MachineMan-mj4gj
    @MachineMan-mj4gj 3 года назад

    My preferred style is basically to dump all of each type of ammo without quickswapping, and using the ice+flamethrower+grenade combo to top myself off for health and armor.

  • @DoomRulz
    @DoomRulz 3 года назад +2

    You're on the ball here! I found myself all the "lame mods" to a far greater extent in TAG than I ever thought to in the base game.

  • @sentienttaco9134
    @sentienttaco9134 3 года назад

    The Destroyer Blade is my favorite weapon mod in the game. I don't get to use it often, but when I do, the gory splatter from that hot wave cutting through a horde is my shit.

  • @Z3rgatul
    @Z3rgatul 3 года назад

    I was feeling myself as good player and was preparing for UN run. Then I watched top players/speedrunners and their crazy PB-RL combo. I was fine with my PB-Ballista for long range, and SS-Ballista for melee range. But I started to learn PB-RL. Now everything is messed up in my mind. I am constantly finding myself pressing random weapons without any combos. Who knows how much hours I need to play more to feel confident again.

  • @PossiblyAnIrishGuy
    @PossiblyAnIrishGuy 3 года назад

    You have eloquently described something that is very difficult to put into words for many players of this game, even reviewers didn't bother trying to think about this. Instead they do what reviewers do and pick minor disagreements and use them as low hanging fruit to save a very well designed game from getting a better recommendation. Thanks Mayo, Hugo and yourself could chat endlessly about the game design philosophy of both this game, Doom 2016 and future expansions/games and it would be a treat.

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +1

      I could probably spend an entire day with him talking game design and doom and movies and STILL have more to discuss.

    • @PossiblyAnIrishGuy
      @PossiblyAnIrishGuy 3 года назад

      @@underthemayo not surprised at all! You got him on that discord call during the community stream not too long ago, here's hoping you can get that chance soon!

  • @mr.bananaman9805
    @mr.bananaman9805 3 года назад

    Honestly, my favorite way to deal with a whiplash doesn't even use mods. Just use a rocket, grenade, rocket combo.

  • @hiimzdeny__2878
    @hiimzdeny__2878 3 года назад

    I was using Micro Missiles through entire fight with Icon of Sin on my UN run, along with Shield mod for Chaingun. These two were my lifesavers, especially the shield. Firstly I was hardly against the Shield mod, because I was used to Mobile Turret from 2016, but in Eternal I found it a bit useless, so I gave a try to Shield and now I can't imagine my playthrough without it.

  • @pradeepdungdung4379
    @pradeepdungdung4379 3 года назад

    I must say I love your opinion on not relying on meta but on what suits and feels comfortable for you..... I think this can be applied to every competitive game

  • @theguywhoasked1298
    @theguywhoasked1298 3 года назад

    Me listening to the things the microwave beam also does: I don’t know that, I didn’t know that, I DIDN’T KNOW THAT.

  • @loganzister9344
    @loganzister9344 8 месяцев назад

    I didn’t see this video, and I wish I could’ve a little while back. You’ve opened my eyes to more combos just like the murader says lol

  • @vamsigagjew1535
    @vamsigagjew1535 3 года назад

    I remember watching one of your videos and I was like i should try out this weapon swapping business. Never went back

  • @snorelax5271
    @snorelax5271 3 года назад

    Blood fueled rune also makes you move faster when charging the destroyer blade mod, some runes may actually have an impact on how weapon mods work

  • @Ro-fw3lc
    @Ro-fw3lc 3 года назад

    I fucks with that microwave beam off the start,I always used it to check hp so I didn't waste much

  • @canazonepapino2727
    @canazonepapino2727 3 года назад

    That's a problem I kept on getting through when I play other games, it's like I'm obligated to use the same weapons and tactics over and over or I will be in a massive disadvantage. Especially in halo, although I like the aesthetic, I don't like the fact that I had to either use the battle rifle and peek corners or get destroyed by people using the same strategy.

  • @harsh5424-wastaken
    @harsh5424-wastaken 3 года назад

    My play style usually goes like "Yeah, take this demon punk! That's ri-.. oh no my health is 5 WHERE ARE THE DAMN HEALTH PACKS AND ZOMBIES HELP WHY IS MY DASH RECHARGING SO SLOW" but I'm getting pretty comfortable in that play style!

  • @bludstaynd7999
    @bludstaynd7999 3 года назад

    Bloodpunch -> Cybermancubus -> Turret mod = Satisfying

  • @_cabbs_7304
    @_cabbs_7304 3 года назад

    My personal combo for larger demons
    Charged Arbilest shot
    Rocket
    Spray of plasma gun/ micro missiles
    Super shotgun

  • @maxburrill6192
    @maxburrill6192 3 года назад

    Micro missiles with the primary charger are actually the most fucking ridiculous thing in this game.

  • @GSXRlntensity
    @GSXRlntensity 3 года назад

    Well said Mayo. I very much appreciate your content. I’m a new follower of yours, and think your analysis could be applied to so many other situations as well. Keep up the great work.

  • @pocketglove
    @pocketglove 3 года назад +3

    How is the comment 4 days ago?

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад

      I pin the comment when I upload and the schedule release.

  • @MartianBuddy
    @MartianBuddy 8 месяцев назад

    That’s I made my ultra nightmare “guide” I’m no fast swapper or comboer, not my style or fun.

  • @AhmadFauzi-pd2tb
    @AhmadFauzi-pd2tb 3 года назад

    I prefer micromissile over PB because I love playing with no HUD at all , no crosshair and classic weapon pose, just as simple as that..

  • @mkv2718
    @mkv2718 3 года назад

    i feel ok about using the microwave beam in my 1st run thru. also precision shot over micro missiles and the shield over the turret mode on the chain gun. that shield was great when a marauder was just getting irritating. no one liked them at first...

  • @HeyKyle
    @HeyKyle 3 года назад +1

    The Spicy Demons Battlemode community and some of its players (Tomatrix and the Destroyer Blade mod) have been showcasing some of these underrated weapon mods since the start of the games lifespan. I think it’s important to say that, and I’m not trying to sound like I know more. (You know that’s not my intention ❤️)

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +1

      This! A lot of great stuff has come from the battlemode community since early days, with people just plugging their ears.

    • @HeyKyle
      @HeyKyle 3 года назад

      @@underthemayo Well now they know! Great video! 🙏

  • @Phynellius
    @Phynellius 3 года назад

    I kind of like precision bolt/ballista quick swaps personally because you can strip weak points off and it makes me have to aim more carefully

  • @Memeamyoto621
    @Memeamyoto621 3 года назад

    Chain gun main. Right here that's all I need. Just wish I could have 500 rounds or 300 and not share with heavy cannon. They both obviously have different bullets

  • @juancho650
    @juancho650 3 года назад

    Ngl when I first saw people doing those crazy weapon combos I thought maybe this game is not for me bc people made it look like some kind of game only people on mlg is capable to deal with, that not even in normal could be playable for me, I don't suck at fps but these people really overwhelmed me

  • @Greyco12
    @Greyco12 3 года назад

    I'm wondering why the microwave beam was under rated. The only time i used the plasma gun was to kill heavy enemies with the beam

  • @ethanlong4670
    @ethanlong4670 3 года назад

    I loved the microwave beam since the beginning. I'm decent at the game too. I can play on Nightmare and die only a few times. I play on console though so my experience is probably different than others.

  • @alexisvicentoficial1469
    @alexisvicentoficial1469 2 года назад

    For my experience. I say The Micro Missiles Is a Better mod for me, and i know Alot More people Prefer the Precision Bolt, but Just like the Remote-Detonation It can actually serve a good source of use. Although of course. I still use the Precision Bolt with it.

  • @CoolkiddVids
    @CoolkiddVids 3 года назад +1

    The fighting game analogies were all too accurate, people in the FGC could really use a lot of the words in this video too

  • @furb246
    @furb246 3 года назад

    I agree wholeheartedly with the general sentiment that different mods are tailored to different playstyles, and that people should use what compliments their style. I really dislike the idea of just following along and using what's "best," however, it has to be said that some mods are used less than others not because of snobbish elitism, but rather due to straight up mechanical issues. Microwave beam is a great mod and I envoy using it, but I straight up don't use vanilla microwave beam because sadly it's completely unreliable. Half the time it can't find a target right in front of me, and the other half the time it breaks randomly for no discernable reason. Whatever enjoyment I would have gotten from using the mod in a clutch, stylish, and personal way is replaced with anger for it not functioning mechanically on the most basic of levels. Similarly, some fodder enemies at random points in the base game are completely and entirely immune to remote detonation damage (I unloaded 10 into 3 zombies in ARC complex one time, no joke, and sadly this isn't even a rare occurrence). A big component to using a mod like remote det is getting a faulter, but Hell Knights for instance are known to only faulter when it suits them. I think a big part of the meta isn't just using "the best" weapons and mods, but using the weapons and mods that most often work as advertised and can be relied on. The longer you play the game, the more you start to know how things should behave, and the more you start to notice when they don't behave the way they're supposed to. That's why I think people with high play times tend to gravitate towards the meta weapons. It's not only because they're "better," it's because they work, which sadly isn't the case across the board.
    Note: this isn't the case for every unused mod, but there's a direct correlation I think with how reliable a mod is and how often its utilized. And yes, I do realize that lock on burst is just as unreliable with what it locks onto as remote det, but that's why people just PB rocket now.

    • @norrecvizharan1177
      @norrecvizharan1177 3 года назад

      How does the microwave beam break? I've never had that happen to me personally, though I can sorta relate to the difficulties of aiming it at groups of enemies. But really, it's best to just either briefly stunlock big guys, or focus on little guys with it. Not sure what to say about remote detonation either, other than maybe the blast radius is deceptively small (they did say that the large part that falters does no damage, after all, and can make it seem much bigger than it actually is). I've put in nearly 300 hours myself, and haven't had either mod glitch out on me.

  • @asailioss
    @asailioss 3 года назад

    I honestly didn't know that the destroyer blade was being crapped on. It's been part of my arsenal since doom eternal came out. Filthy casual here lol.

  • @maxwellmegagamer8535
    @maxwellmegagamer8535 3 года назад

    Bunny hopping while charging destroyer blade

  • @terrorsDomain
    @terrorsDomain Год назад

    Destroyer Blade Tech Now Existing:🗿🗿🗿

  • @skyhisurvivor4724
    @skyhisurvivor4724 3 года назад

    I almost exclusively use SSG and minigun mobile turret and beat Super Gore Nest on Nightmare faster than someone who played meta, I also am a crack addict.

  • @samwayne8961
    @samwayne8961 2 года назад

    i love the unmakyr. its a super heavy killer.

  • @williams8977
    @williams8977 3 года назад

    Sticky Bomb x Precision Scope 🔥

  • @jamesford2192
    @jamesford2192 3 года назад

    You should do an in-depth video like this on runes. I already know my favorites but just to hear your sweet sweet voice

  • @CreativeUsernameHere-r1k
    @CreativeUsernameHere-r1k 3 года назад +1

    Doom Eternal zhe game that advocates divercity like no other XD

  • @mrsspawn1532
    @mrsspawn1532 3 года назад

    Every time I watch your videos I want to go play some Doom and adapt my playstyle!

  • @pigsauce4150
    @pigsauce4150 3 года назад

    I just got ancient gods and I have never used the full auto mod so much in my life. I beat the Marauder with the full auto combo. I play on Xbox

  • @sulle8943
    @sulle8943 3 года назад

    Ok that's awesome, good video. But now to the one million dollar question: Is micro missiles and microwave beam useful in BM tho? ;D

  • @XBucefaloX
    @XBucefaloX 3 года назад

    AMEN. And this applies in every other game.

  • @Magemo7
    @Magemo7 3 года назад

    Yes . But the fact is the level designers adapted the dlcs and mastery levels to pro players. For instance by creating maps where you always need to stay in the air forcing you to be effective with super shotgun balista combo. The fact weapon swap cancelling animation is now in loading screens indicates they recommend players to use weapon swaps. It's just un advice but I felt I had to watch pro-player in order to defeat mastery level. I can't get pass through the small room at the end of Taras Nabad when the Totem spawns by playing doom-dance

  • @Milkra
    @Milkra 3 года назад

    You’re telling me king novik didn’t tell me to use super shotgun and ballista until it is done?

  • @MUZZLEFLASHER10O10
    @MUZZLEFLASHER10O10 3 года назад

    Mayo, my g, have you played Star Wars: Bounty Hunter? It's not like Doom Eternal in a superficial way, and it's a bit aged, but I was playing it on ps4 some time ago and I couldn't help but think that it would be interesting to get to know your opinion about it, it's definitely a challenge and it has a LOT of combat and platforming, also it's a retro game with some nice, intrincate map designs.

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +1

      I haven't. Never paid much attention to star wars. But I'm open to trying anything.

  • @fanman6568
    @fanman6568 3 года назад

    One question about the flame thrower. Do you know how to tell the distance or reach the flamethrower will hit an enemy? This one question might be a video self when you think about it.

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад

      You just get a feel for it. Its like super shotgun range.

  • @chrispych1ps
    @chrispych1ps 3 года назад +1

    Just curious, how is SSG+PB stronger than SSG+Ballista at close range? Does it switch faster?

    • @norrecvizharan1177
      @norrecvizharan1177 3 года назад +1

      I believe so. It's either that or it's the fact that it typically gets a lotta bonus damage on specific spots (particularly the head) that does it. It's much tougher to pull off as a result, but is likely quite rewarding if your aim is great.

  • @advictoriams
    @advictoriams 3 года назад

    I've been experimenting with more combos. Which honestly, has made me experiment more in other games.
    There's no one way to play, and I love that.
    Don't worry about elitists, man. We get a lot of them in the Fallout 76 community (Bloodied build elitists are the worst, especially to players like me who are more specifically into combo styles and legendaries)
    Kabal is my MK main because speed and throws are my particular style in that game.

  • @billisdog5813
    @billisdog5813 3 года назад

    Great video, Mayo. The rules are strict within Doom Eternal, but the scope for interpretation and improvisation within those rules is great.

  • @ordog4344
    @ordog4344 3 года назад

    THNX Mayo...got my 1st ever game PC ever! I come from 30 years of console gaming

  • @tatoruso
    @tatoruso 3 года назад +1

    Beautifully said! Elitists are extremely boring!

  • @dustbustr91
    @dustbustr91 3 года назад

    yeah totally. when someone says i suck, i just cry and stop playing. there is no way i can use that to push and get better. everyone should be like unicorns and rainbows and blow each other.

  • @monsterzero9238
    @monsterzero9238 3 года назад

    One of the most important lessons I learned is that there is no such thing as a useless mod.

  • @lucifersam01
    @lucifersam01 3 года назад +628

    Following most of your tips on Doom Eternal lead me to accomplish something I didn't even know I could do : finish Doom 2016, Doom Eternal and the fucking DLC in nightmare difficulties. You would have asked me just a few month ago and I would have say "nah, nightmare is too hard for me, I just want some fun", but now I got gud, so gud in fact that I'm having fun ONLY in nightmare difficulty now! It's very rewarding to see how my gameplay got very intense and funnier than before simply by mastering the quick swapping weapons and have a real use of my whole arsenal, something I thought was just completely out of my league!
    Thank you for that!

    • @the_mse
      @the_mse 3 года назад +15

      That same thing happened to me! But with allstin because he made a video that was encouraging low players to challenge them selves and I went to nightmare and I made a slaughterhouse it was amazing and now I have done the super gore nest master level on ultra nightmare well now I do it for fun because the lack of master levels but the game is fun and I’ll get the dlc soon and I’ll do the dlc on ultra nightmare wish me luck! And good luck with your ultra nightmare stuff it’s gonna be hard.

    • @ChoseDeath
      @ChoseDeath 3 года назад +4

      Same here. Still don't have the gumption for Ultra Nightmare on PS4, but I am much closer! This channel and Cynic The Original have really helped me love these games all the more, as well as the confidence to play, and win, on Nightmare.

    • @the_mse
      @the_mse 3 года назад +3

      @@ChoseDeath I’m on ps4 too! I feel like the base campaign’s ultra nightmare isn’t fun for me so I won’t do it the dlc I will do on ultra nightmare tho

    • @ChoseDeath
      @ChoseDeath 3 года назад +1

      @@the_mse Maybe I should start with that? That's not a bad idea amigo. Do you play any multiplayer per chance?

    • @kingdomkey2397
      @kingdomkey2397 3 года назад +1

      That is awesome!!! Good job!

  • @Mattkanuch
    @Mattkanuch 3 года назад +655

    Iam just happy that Mayo is part of the Doom community, thats all...

    • @KulveTarothsNightGown
      @KulveTarothsNightGown 3 года назад +30

      not only is he apart of it, hugo himself has joined streams. i think him allstin and cynic are the doom holy trinity 🤣

    • @Sergioiafrate
      @Sergioiafrate 3 года назад +8

      Agreed, he keeps bringing more and more to the community.

    • @nokkzie
      @nokkzie 3 года назад +3

      Amén.

  • @remnantgaming716
    @remnantgaming716 3 года назад +386

    You’re seriously underrated as a content creator man. There’s real value here for people who aren’t even DOOM Eternal fans

    • @underthemayo
      @underthemayo  3 года назад +74

      I'll have a video on that next month. About how doom Eternal applies to all games.

    • @remnantgaming716
      @remnantgaming716 3 года назад +5

      @@underthemayo I look forward to it. Keep up the good work mate!

    • @Drekromancer
      @Drekromancer 3 года назад +11

      Hear, hear. Mayo, you are a man of good faith and integrity - and I value your commitment to being a positive part of this community. Not enough people recognize the responsibility that comes with having a platform, but you consistently demonstrate the ability to handle it with style and grace. Every time I see one of your videos, I see an earnest, thoughtful man, contributing to a wonderful community that he helped to build. Keep up the good work.

    • @remnantgaming716
      @remnantgaming716 3 года назад +1

      @TwistedGamer I rewatched the video with your critisicm in mind and I honestly couldn't find any point in the video where it applies. Can you point out what exactly Mayo said that is "preachy" to you?
      I also found no mention of 2016, let alone any statements that could be considered "demeaning", so please, show me what lead you to come to that conclusion.
      Edit: I did find one mention of 2016 at the very start of the video, but I didn't notice any others. And I certainly don't see how what Mayo said at the start demeans 2016. Please help me out to understand what you meant by that.

  • @linkofhyrule6543
    @linkofhyrule6543 3 года назад +300

    I love it when i have enough time to charge up the destroyer blade and seeing it insta killing multiple demons

    • @SlayerOmair
      @SlayerOmair 3 года назад +24

      same feeling my dude. I love that mod

    • @shmekelfreckles8157
      @shmekelfreckles8157 3 года назад +21

      Yeah, how tf it’s even underrated?

    • @SlayerOmair
      @SlayerOmair 3 года назад +32

      @@shmekelfreckles8157 not a lot of people use it. they're too afraid of the scary charge up time ooooooooooo. that's how. I don't understand it either.
      maybe not everyone is as badass as we are in this thread lmao.

    • @shmekelfreckles8157
      @shmekelfreckles8157 3 года назад +19

      @@SlayerOmair I also sucked at it at first, but then you start to combo it with nades and charge it in the air.

    • @heneedsomemilk655
      @heneedsomemilk655 3 года назад +14

      Grenades/Ice Bomb+charged-up Destroyer Blade is the best way to deal with the cloaked Whiplashes.
      I swear, this mod is addictive once you know how to use it.

  • @mastergame1311
    @mastergame1311 3 года назад +528

    "What makes you a good player is understanding your playstyle and using the tools that help that playstyle and finding success in it".
    Truer words have never been spoken.

    • @squxshyy
      @squxshyy 3 года назад +15

      I bet there’s a player out that can outplay us with a guitar hero guitar and pedals

    • @nailotsot
      @nailotsot 3 года назад +8

      @@squxshyy someone actually played with a guitar hero controller for a vid, but of course he was not very good

    • @squxshyy
      @squxshyy 3 года назад +6

      @@nailotsot give him time he’ll be decent lol

    • @nailotsot
      @nailotsot 3 года назад +9

      @@squxshyy to be fair he did finish the game with just a fucking guitar.

    • @nailotsot
      @nailotsot 3 года назад +7

      But he still played like a game journalist, except he actually had a brain

  • @Allstin
    @Allstin 3 года назад +367

    If someone asked, “I have 10 minutes and want to watch my first Under The Mayo video, what should I watch?”
    This is it, chief.

    • @lumeras115
      @lumeras115 3 года назад

      Yes, it is!

    • @Disapointed_Luigi
      @Disapointed_Luigi 3 года назад +4

      Well guess what? This is the first videos i watched of him and im subbing.

    • @GraniteFaun
      @GraniteFaun 3 года назад +1

      Same, I've heard the name of that channel some time ago. I like having seen this as my first video and it's true, they pulled off a game where you can nicely vary your playstyle.

  • @CharlieFillmore
    @CharlieFillmore 3 года назад +585

    "I've never seen anybody more thorough than [Mayo]" - Hugo Martin
    Mayo is like a blessing to Doom honestly

    • @DarthSateus
      @DarthSateus 3 года назад +32

      "I'm not sure Mayo's not directing the game"

    • @Cicero760
      @Cicero760 3 года назад +2

      slow clap

    • @ccshinaberry
      @ccshinaberry 3 года назад +19

      @@smugplush mayo is eternals decino

    • @ihatecommunism9958
      @ihatecommunism9958 3 года назад +9

      He actually watches some of his streams and joins the chat sometimes, right?

    • @Cicero760
      @Cicero760 3 года назад +9

      @@ihatecommunism9958 the only name more american then that is need oil69

  • @JohnCena-iq3tg
    @JohnCena-iq3tg 3 года назад +155

    On the subject of wepon mods if you use the equipment fiend rune and miss your flame belch if you have the flaming meat hook it will count as a kill with the flame belch and will help recharge it

    • @SpiffoGaming
      @SpiffoGaming 3 года назад +7

      Holy cow. Thanks man!

    • @SkaalKesh
      @SkaalKesh 3 года назад +3

      I did not know that. Time for some experimentation!

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 3 года назад +4

      I always knew that rune was op

    • @TheChocoboRacer
      @TheChocoboRacer 3 года назад +1

      @@ghoulbuster1 its always op and a top level mod, even on the DLC

    • @jellelliott
      @jellelliott 3 года назад +1

      I'm surprised more people don't use equipment fiend, I literally have never taken it off, I like spamming equipment and always having something ready other than guns

  • @960456
    @960456 3 года назад +70

    When you pair Ice Bomb, Flame Belch, a crowd of demons and Destroyer Blade, it's better than a glory kill

  • @aidenramsey2174
    @aidenramsey2174 3 года назад +52

    Back when I first play the game never fought I'll be doing all this crazy stuff it's awesome😎👍

  • @circuitanimatesspiderfang99
    @circuitanimatesspiderfang99 3 года назад +27

    I like how most people are talking about like oh this and that like this weapon combo and this mod combo is the best but No one is talking about Mod switching mid combat are use it a lot and to be honest it save my skin many many times

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 3 года назад +1

      I'm currently doing an unfavored mods run to better acclimate myself to things like Micro Missiles and the Energy Shield (also Ice Bomb only cuz I prefer Frags), and when I'm done with that I'm gonna hone my mod switching and grenade toggling until I'm using all my possible options at any given moment.

  • @thedenseone6443
    @thedenseone6443 3 года назад +126

    Moral of the story: Doom Eternal has a place for pretty much everyone, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise

    • @Finnisher_DAD
      @Finnisher_DAD 3 года назад +11

      Yes! Play it your way (and on the difficulty you feel comfortable).

    • @SRGIProductions
      @SRGIProductions 3 года назад +3

      *Looks at GManLives*

    • @thedenseone6443
      @thedenseone6443 3 года назад +2

      @@SRGIProductions I don’t know who that is

    • @SRGIProductions
      @SRGIProductions 3 года назад +11

      @@thedenseone6443 Best you don't, sonny jim.

    • @SalesmanWave
      @SalesmanWave 3 года назад +2

      @@thedenseone6443 a bad youtube reviewer

  • @krick_mufc9291
    @krick_mufc9291 3 года назад +43

    I'd love mayo to spend a bit of time playing eternal on console and then give us his thoughts on viable strategies/weapon combos. I'm sure plenty of mayo/console fans would love that!

    • @bhopirl4552
      @bhopirl4552 3 года назад +8

      Well you can do basically any combos he already listed just not as fast. Hes done videos on micromissiles, full auto.. those work well on controller because they don’t require fast switching or precision aim

    • @ringo7395
      @ringo7395 3 года назад +5

      Console is not too different from PC, just a teeny bit slower. You can still quickswap but it isn't as fast as you'd have to open the wheel for a split second to go to the next weapon, but its still possible.

    • @infinitedeath1384
      @infinitedeath1384 3 года назад +6

      @@ringo7395 Yes but that costs your accuracy, since you use the analog stick you aim with to choose what weapon you want. On mouse and keyboard, all the weapons can be bound to whatever key you want, and whilst you are switching weapons, you still have full control over aim with the mouse. It is far more viable to just do ballista/ssg, pb/rocket and ballista/pb on console, rather than going ballista/pb/rocket, since that would require using the wheel to switch weapons.

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 3 года назад

      As a pc player who tried a campaign using a gamepad, basically any sustained-fire mod is great--Full Auto, Micro Missiles, Mobile Turret. Hell, you don't even need to quickswap to kill things well. You can stay on SSG or rocket launcher for several seconds and kill them just fine.
      Oh, and Microwave Beam is always great to hold a problematic enemy in place with to let you get your bearings.

  • @StronkiTube
    @StronkiTube 3 года назад +41

    It's a sad reality that whenever a new game with a high skill ceiling comes along, there will be plenty of elitists who will only, and ONLY want everyone to play in only the most efficient and meta way possible.
    And videogames aren't the only thing that suffer from elitists sadly. :/

    • @TehCakeIzALie1
      @TehCakeIzALie1 3 года назад +4

      It doesn't even need a high skill ceiling. They're doing it to Blaseball now ffs

  • @joarsturve7103
    @joarsturve7103 3 года назад +52

    This video kinda feels like old Mayo content, like in the beggining of Eternal and I kinda feel nostalgic about it. As always I'm really thankful for your contribution to the DOOM community.

  • @kyrilevangelista6687
    @kyrilevangelista6687 3 года назад +38

    New Mayo upload + a plate full of snacks = hella good time

    • @stephenmacdonald5597
      @stephenmacdonald5597 3 года назад +7

      New Mayo upload + a plate full of snacks + coffee = a 10 minute bathroom break

    • @raywez1771
      @raywez1771 3 года назад

      Wich Snacks?

  • @ultmateragnarok8376
    @ultmateragnarok8376 3 года назад +47

    I don't know how the destroyer blade went under the radar for so many. You have to charge arbalest as well, and destroyer blade is like a miniature BFG shot.

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 3 года назад +9

      Too slow. Many players are at a high state of panic for a lack of a better word. Standing still or not being able to move around as fast as possible is nerve racking which is why I seldom use it myself.

    • @Mythical444
      @Mythical444 3 года назад +2

      @@alastor8091 that’s why it’s best to charge it when you’re in mid air or using a jump pad

    • @Demonstormlord
      @Demonstormlord 3 года назад +6

      Once mastered, Arbalest lets you skip the charge up time after the first shot if you hit your target, that contributed a lot to its popularity.

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 3 года назад

      @@Demonstormlord do you use it for anything other than fliers? Honestly can't tell if the charge time is worth it against anything that's not a meatball and I like Pain Elementals so I like to fight them for a little longer than 3 Arbalest shots.

    • @Demonstormlord
      @Demonstormlord 3 года назад +1

      @@alastor8091 I'm not very good, but some people used it against Marauders for more damaging combos. I also used it a lot in battle mode.

  • @crow.p828
    @crow.p828 3 года назад +15

    Yo my playstyle is just meathooking onto every demon and blasting them with the super shotgun

  • @NINJAxBACON
    @NINJAxBACON 3 года назад +19

    Reminds me of when smash ultimate first came out. The whole world was crying that king k rool was the best character in the game. That fool ain't even top 30 now