That should have been ripped from him in court as soon as he showed it with that stupid smirk-knowing it would hurt the bereaved parents even more…so WHY DIDNT THE JUDGE SAY TAKE HIM OUT AND REMOVE THAT HEINOUS TEESHIRT NOW !!!!! …
Why isn't access to guns restricted to ordinary citizens in this country? In Europe, kids don't shoot up in schools because their fathers don't have arsenals of weapons in their basements. There's something wrong when you can't legally purchase alcohol under the age of 21, but you have no problem to buy an AR-15. Americans' belief that owning a gun is one of their basic rights has its roots in the beginnings of the country, and no one realized that we are in the 21st century and it is completely wrong. In May 2022, the powerful NRA lobby (National Rifle Association) won a lowering of the age to purchase this type of weapon - from 21 to 18 years.
Bro the fault is not what family said. Its just normal to support your own family. Your mother will do the same if you kill 3 peoples or worst than that.
It's a good thing that he was free to wear it because it exposes him for what he is. The community doesn't need to feel sorry for him after this. Let them say and wear what they want. We have to see them for what they are and decide from there.
common sense couldve won here but it didnt: he should wear the shirt, it exposes him for all that he is. He should not have heard the testimonials, he clearly wants to see pain on others, emotional/physical/etc.
I'm a parent so I understand these parents pain, but if you understand the psychology of these psychopaths ..they actually get great pleasure from hearing the pain that they caused. These impact statements just gives these monsters satisfaction...I wouldn't even bother addressing them. Nikolas Cruz in his video he made minutes before the shooting said he can't wait to see and hear the pain of the parents and loved ones. They already know prior to doing what they did...that they're going to die in prison. They just don't care.
@tercsi1 plus, psychopaths and sociopaths have narcissistic personality disorder, all of your infamous serial killers had it: John Wayne Gacy Richard Ramirez Dean Corll Joseph James De'Angelo T.J. Lane Ted Bundy Rodney Alcala H.H. Holmes Nicholas Cruz And many more
not all of these kids were psychos some just needed a parent or teacher to step in and stop the bullying but nobody ever would,if your kid is being bullied you don't tell him to man up and deal with it or he will
@@MsWiccanpriestessyou forgot charles manson brett cowan arthur brown stanley brown Martin bryant ivan milat susan smith & green River scumbag etc lol... or is it just "all white people" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂I feel sorry for the families but this is hilarious when "a black person steals some food or clothing from a store their whole race are profiled/stereotyped we'll take a look at your own kind before judging others
I totally agree with you. I don't think the producers should have mentioned their names for obvious reasons. Additionally I was disturbed to see some of the victims being asked to recount their experience. That cannot be good for mental health, and frankly I couldn't watch more than about a third of the piece. It felt a bit like violence porn.
For TJ Lane, carefully watch his facial expression when he was called a coward. Before that, he had a slight smirk on his face. But when she called his actions cowardly, that smirk was gone.
You can tell by the way his eyes are blinking that he is uncomfortable. He is hearing what everyone is saying and it is bothering him. No matter how strong he builds up his walls, he can't hide his fear.
THAT FIRST PART IS EDITED!!! The killer there is tj lane of “chardon shooting “ the guy whos mad is actually yelling at the parklamd shooter (nicholas cruz)
I hate how these soulless killers have an entire room of police to protect them if someone attempts to jump at them for remorselessly murdering their beloved ones.
@@supercordz bro are u ok man? So if I kill a whole damn town isnt that evil? Are u really gonna compare that shit with the soldiers? Nah man ur so messed up bro
My birth mother drank alcohol and did drugs while pregnant with me yet here I am 44 years old with 0 criminal record and not even a speeding ticket. Stop making excuses for pure evilness.
The beginning sneak peak was CRAZY. Imagine you survive a school shooting, you visit the court to see the murderer’s sentence and they say that the have that killed 17 kids now masturbates to the memory. With a SMILE on his face.
those are two different different clips from two different trials although what he said is disgusting and horrible he was not replying to the person in the first clip 🤔
I was bullied as a kid but I found a way to learn, grow, and not hold in the anger. I'm stronger for it but this is absolutely terrifying seeing these kids.
Compared to the crime the verbal barb was a big nothingburger. Trolls can only hurt you if you set yourself up to be offended in the first place. Why would I give emotional weight to what that person said in the first place? Its just an opportunity for them to take or leave, and in that case the opportunity was left in the dust so-to-speak.
Lots of people get bullied. I think it's easy for people to say 'I did [bad thing] because x or y happened to me'. Ultimately we are conscious beings, if we choose the act we need to own the consequences.
Bullies shouldn't bully. End of story, in my opinion. Eventually people snap. I've got no sympathy for bullies-- and I've never been bullied myself. Actions have consequences. You can't bully someone and expect nothing to happen. Especially in the real world, outside of high school.
@@katieghoul0092ur the only person with a brain fr. Bullying people affect the lives of those forever. I still think of being bullied in ELEMENTARY even. Its insane how people can never sympathise for people who are in pain if they listened maybe things like this wouldn’t happen
This happends because people call their monsters and hate them, it starts with minor things and the ruthlessness and little forgiveness of society drive them to psicological problems. You will not resolve nothing calling their monsters. Just imagine that the hate you could feel to them is the hate they had when killing those people.
@@klaggydowsh1388 No, he did it, not the parents. Everybody has free will to choose. The hardship can make hero or monster, if you punish other than the sinner, you allow the sin, even here with idiotic libtards logic.
wait, how did you know it was the middle finger? i couldn't tell since it was blurred. omg if that's true i would be so offended! thank you censorship! I'm safe from all harm!
In what country do you live in where mental health is an excuse for murder? Do you think they just let you get away with it if you're mentally ill? 😂 Even if you're found "Guilty but mentally ill" or "not guilty by way of insanity" you'll spend most likely the rest of your life in a high security mental institution. You don't just go free
It’s not an excuse, no one is getting away with murder because of having a mental illness. It is a reason, though. It does explain the action. It doesn’t make the action any less horrific or heartbreaking.
Actually once a prisoner was medically dead and then revived a few seconds later. He challenged the life imprisonment order on the ground that he had already died and thus his sentence was over. Resulted in a lot of hassle. Maybe this is to prevent that from happening again.😂
The first guys response was on a different level. No coming back from that. Insane that he killed, wore the shirt, then said that, and added a middle finger on top of it all. No words.
I was a student at the SFISD middle school on May 18th, 2018. At 740am, the school went on lockdown, and about half an hour later, the news of an active gunman at the high school had been spread like wildfire. Now, I have graduated from that exact high school, and still, ITS BEEN 6 ENTIRE YEARS, and the families of the victims, as well as our entire community, have not received deserved justice. He can not claim "mental illness" to a premeditated act that he pursued and then took 10 innocent lives without any remorseful reasoning behind it. I lost a friend 6 years ago.. my classmate lost his older sister 6 years ago.. my neighbor lost her son 6 years ago. That monster is well over "sane enough" to stand trial and receive his rightful punishment. And until he gets the rest of his pathetic life behind bars, the city of Santa Fe and all surrounding areas will not rest peacefully. Until he himself is ripped from his very life among humankind, we will not be tamed of our infuriating hatred. 5/18/18 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@doublesunday1268 It seems you are the dumb one for not getting what he means,be careful with insults as it can be hilariously ironic. He is upset that people often go easy in these teenagers because they view them as too young and people sympathize with them too much.
Teenagers crave more attention beacuse of social media. Also a lot happens with brain development under those years. Weapons being legal to own isnt a good combo
You could maybe hide 20-30 feet of pvc or whatever you could get your hands on in a mattress or something, sneak the piping out in a wheelbarrow or something like that (assuming your work uses wheelbarrows) and quickly assemble a makeshift ladder. People in prison have so much time on their hands it’s crazy. With 1000+ hours of planning, it’s impressive what even the most stupid people can accomplish.
You see why your society never gets better and will never ever get better but worse?? Look at the comment section yall are still so wrapped up in your scientific explanation, to the extent that you're blinded to what causes all this! American society banned the bible, the moment a teacher tries to teach about the love of God he or she looses her job, yall pushed God out and brough the devil in... still no-one sees it...America is a doomed nation!
As a student who was bullied, sexually harassed and didn’t speak up about it for three years, yes it hurt. But never in my life would I ever have so much anger and resentment towards society that I end up taking someone’s life.
No matter how tough TJ acted the fear in his face was obvious. He knows where he’s going and he knows it will be for the rest of his life. Prison will wipe that smirk off his face.
@@augiz261 cos he was too pussy to actually fight 😂 if he didn’t hide behind a gun any one of those victims would’ve left him blubbering in a dumpster, same as how he’s forcing a smirk cos he knows his ugly ass would get torn apart without those officers there
Prison ain’t that bad bro lol I’ve been , you actually nowadays get a tablet to play games on in prison , it’s wild how much stuff they let us have access to in prison
@@TheRealTact it just really really depends so for a case like this they would classify him as what they call G3 and they would put him on what they call 23/1 , 23 hours in his cell one hour out of it alone , to make phone calls or shower, they only people who get beat up and stuff in prison are like child predators and rapist , murder is quite common in prison , I’ve sat in a group of them in a prayer circle in there , I once talked with a guy who had killed his wife and chopped her body up , nobody gave him a hard time and he was a small guy, typically inmates don’t care as much about murder and care more about bullying the child predators
@@officialmwattersonkids who’ve been bullied, the more brutal the bullying the worse the consequences. If they don’t work through it in therapy or by themselves, this is a pretty logical response psychologically speaking. The kids who died had nothing to do with it, but for him that doesn’t matter. He sees all of them as bullies. And that for him, was retaliation against them. In no way I’m excusing this or anything, just explaining.
As a father of 2 little ones, I am scared of sending my children to school when their time comes. Absolutely terrified. This country cares about money too much than the safety of our children and its law abiding citizens.
I realize the defense’s job is to provide a vigorous defense for their client. However, in Nicolas Cruz’s case, the lack of respect these lawyers showed to the court, family of the victims and victims themselves was appalling. I have never seen anything like it. Sickening
Cruz narrowly avoided the death penalty by just one juror. But don't think he's going to have it easy in prison. The Judge who sentenced him also invoked the "Son of Sam Law" on him. This means that not only is he not allowed to make money off of his story, but any money he receives on his books will be garnished to pay his restitution he owes, so he won't be able to buy anything off of the commissary, and will have to rely on the meager rations the prison gives him. He's going to be looking like Gollum when he dies. Also prison inmates typically don't like school shooters and will do everything they can to make his life hell. And before anyone brings up protective custody, in the state of Florida they don't actually have to grant you that.
nobody need to defend it for it beeing real, crying bitches in court wont change that this will happen again, some people want to kill, and it wont stop, not as long we dont change as a society@@kaiman593
As a High School Student, nothing scares me more than that the thought of a student trying to get attention through shooting other students. If there's anything we should take from this, it's that we should NOT be like these monsters. We should take action if we see anything suspicious. We shouldn't back down. We should stand up for it
be grateful for the freedom to buy guns in america, that is the only issue, where I live it don't happen but not because kids arent crazy, just because it's not easy to get guns here
@@Joseph12O yeah, y'know i was not an asshole, maniac or evil in high-school, but i thought everyone else was, and angry and unstable, so really, i understand how many people could possibly commit such atrocities, but there's just one place they actually are given the option
@@ogladaczr.t.3168only in america I see a school and think "oh that's like a prison" they even have guards and have locked doors. We don't have that in europe, we don't need to check in the distance if we see a reflection and think we are back in war.
When someone takes substances such as cocaine whilst a child is in the womb it effects them on a biological level and can cause a multitude of things so I wouldn’t doubt it
He's right though. He's brain works this way, he's a psychopath because of his mother. He shouldn't blame her, but she definitely did a big mistake and has a fault.
@@Frantik775no it wasn't it's one of his many attorneys have you even watched any videos on nick Cruz? I don't think so..... Shame telling not true information! ......
i was in the school shooting with timothy simpkins and it was honestly the most terrifying morning of my life i was so grateful i was able to see my family again that late afternoon. seeing him in this video wasn’t a shock to me but i definitely wasn’t expecting to see him in one of these videos 2 almost 3 years later october 6,2021 changed my life forever.
As hard as it had to be to watch Lane, him being aware and smirking honestly is a good sign. He isn't crazy, he isn't numb to anything. He definitely figured out very quick exactly what he did snd what he is. A monster. Prison tends to give the justice deserved most of the time. That guy wakes up everyday now while those he smirked at have moved on and live their lives.
I was bullied plenty growing up, was raped at age 6, but never did i think gunning people down was gonna make it all "better". Ridiculous excuses from demons
I was raised by my grandma cayse my parents were drug addicts, i have some mental issues and was bullied everyday in school! I cried almost everyday and had like no friends… i didnt harm anyone either
I’m 40, turned 40 in October, I’ve lived with my parents my whole life due to disabilities! I’ve been Bullied my entire life into my adulthood! I’ve fought back every single time, Verbally, and I might of thrown hands once maybe twice in my life! Never did I ever consider becoming a school or workplace shooter! I’m tired of the BS excuses! 🤦♂️
we need to show these videos in schools, we shouldn't play pretend that kids can't do evil things, nor should we pretend that we can't prevent this from ever happening.
Showing this to kids is going to have the opposite effect you seem to think it would. These school shootings would almost never happen if not for the news and social media glorifying it and shoving it in everyone's faces. That's what the news has been doing for every shooting since Columbine, and all it's done is increase the rate at which these things happen.
@@heftyindI hate those two boys, eric and david or whatever, anyone who hurts an innocent bystander with a WEAPON is a oussy, you can’t even use your hands?
The issue is that schools don't tackle bullying. There should be a three warning system... beyond that, you are out of public school system for life. Why should the rest of people suffer from those kids?
@@antbanks415 It's a behavior. How hard is it to deal with one's unethical "behavior". They are cameras all over school (except bathrooms and locker rooms). Play them back and administrate punishments. Assume the first time they don't have an evidence. The parties are called into the office and the affair is investigated. Now those perpetrators will go under the microscope here on after. If you know moving forward your actions will be monitored and future incidents will have consequences, you'll be much less likely to commit them. Second, schools can use these as teaching moments to edify the bullies to become a better version of themselves.
When you don't want to pay taxes to help children with their mental health, you will never be rid of these problems. There is a reason why almost every single one of these videos are from The United States.
Despite these assholes doing the crazy shit they did, most of them probably were bullied. Despite being broken by bullying, some of these guys are still p*ssies deep down
Thats the way. I was bullied 1st grade through grade 12. 9-12 i was just ignored but 1-7 was full of verbal abuse and physical abuse. I knocked out one of them after 7 years of crap, and while i was ignored, i was never bullied again. College was great because i wasnt in a school full of hypocritical Christians
I was bullied and kept getting called a school shooter in middle school. Yes bullying needs to stop but that's not an excuse to hurt people and to enjoy it. They want attention and will do anything for it that's why these shootings continue to happen
The lifestyle is different there.. America teens don't have strong family structure that prevents them from doing stuff like this. Also getting weapons is easier there than in my country in Africa. Weapons arent a way of life for us
Thats why many countries don't allow guns, American said its because people not gun but a teenage would never done such a damage with a knife or any kind of weapons other than a gun or explosive stuff
They're a country with more weapons than people, and a shockingly little amount of human/workers rights. Anyone who isn't a gun waving maniac knows that
Poor Parenting and their Government. In our culture, parents typically wont stop supporting us until finishing college or even after that. Theyll do it as long as they can do it, so we can turnback to them whenever we want to without any pressure, so in turn they will expect help whenever they become older. Judging by most ages of these assholes, its safe to say its the pressure of being left alone out their parent's care. its usually these losers 15-18 who have basically have nothing going with their lives nearing the age where there parents expect them to live their own lives. So with a mentality of having nothing to lose, they do these kinda shit. And as for their government fault, kids can basically get guns everywhere if they look hard enough, because freedom.
Well said I’m not saying that Nick Cruz is innocent he did discussing thing but why what drove him to to that yes he killed a lot of kids innocent kids just because he made a bad decision doesn’t mean that he never got bullied and picked on what if some of the kids he did hurt did really bully him the parents with all do respect I know that’s their children but they don’t know how there kids act at school they think they know but they really don’t know not saying it’s and excuse for him to kill but let’s get to the real bottom of this shit
@LastmanStanding-wy5tx what’s your point still don’t resolve the issue that’s always been there since one of the first school shootings in 99 in columbine it’s always the same thing with these school shooters most of them do look like they were picked on it some form if you went to high school in America you should understand it’s sad that people wana make changes when shit happens but we never get down to the issue is bullying any form you can’t just look at people getting killed then say yea lock him up put him away if thats the only thing we’re doing is just locking them up can we get to the root of the problem and go to theses schools elementary junior high high school staff and parents need to to know what’s going on in the school
Eh that combined with the fact that the consequences are just too small. I’m sorry but none of these received the death penalty for premeditated murder of children… absolutely disgusting. They’re getting well fed, taken care of, and are now famous the rest of their lives. They feed off that. Sick world, weak justice system.
I've been bullied and threatened in my school year's but I never went to the extent of wanting to kill people. I learnt to defend myself in other ways and or ignore it. Most of these cases they should be jailed for life without parole. My condolences to the families who lost there loved ones, God Bless them all!🙏🏻
I never got bullied in high school, I got discriminated by adults because of my learning disability. I was obsessed with satanic stuff, and thoughts of doing curse magic to cause problems on people. I realize demons were just trying to use me for their agenda
I would have been so afraid of you. I knew a kid like that in high school and I was so afraid of him doing something stupid so I just skipped the last day of school.
I'm almost positive they got to the point that they just didn't care anymore. People really forget what brought these people to this point the moment they decide to take action into their own hands. Although before anyone gets any ideas, I do not condone the actions of these individuals because as a person who could have been pushed to this limit I can say I just "Got over it" despite how much I loath other people.
@@PrincessSunbuttOHHHH! HE IS ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE IN THERE! that why tried 2 escape. I’m been there. IT AINT FUN! Your surrounded my other MISERABLE PEOPLE! Imagine being in a cell no bigger than a bathroom and every time someone takes a dump u got 2 smell it. Hours seems like days days seem like weeks and so on. The biggest punishment besides bullying is BOREDOM!
@@PrincessSunbuttthey're foolish because they think they have "nothing left to lose," which is only partially true in their case. I dont think they really considered that being r4ped every day in prison might be worse than getting killed. They don't actually know how much they have to lose, I think. So they act smug because they're used to "soft" (relatively speaking) punishment, being arrested is basically a slap on the wrist and i think these kids actually believe the life sentence is as bad as it'll get.
Im 16 and in highschool and I have never been on a school shooting but i really hope I don't end up being in one. Idk why people just wake up and decide "oh im gonna shoot up a school" but to the parents who's kids died in school shootings: My condolences to you all.
I grew up in the 80s. School shootings didn’t happen or weren’t even heard of. I feel sorry for the young people today. Horrible times to be growing up 👋
The problem is these kids obviously want attention. I know colobine there wasn’t social media, however, they played that that on the news for months. These kids want to be famous anyway they can. Social media makes all of this worse.
@@CheTheDriver If You Were Wrongfully Convicted Of A Crime That You Didnt Do/Commit And Ended Up 🆙 Spending 10 Years In Prison For That Wrongful Conviction Or If You Were Diagnosed With A Terminal Cancer ♋ As A Result Of Your Work Place Negligence Would You Be Bee 🐝 Justified In Murdering Innocent 😇 People To Get Back 🔙 At Society For Those Injustices?.
Why the hell are they allowed to wear shirts, bring sings,do disgusting in the court room without any consequences. Does the system not haul them from jail to court
After they are guilty they don't have many rights left, but there is some sort of floor of respect given to any living human even if they are evil. But that said, I doubt this is allowed to happen most of the time or that there are not consequences.
that's where the US has a problem, their education system is based entirely on bullying. Frats, Soroities, Cheerleaders & ugly girls, quarterbacks & geeks.
no just stop promoting it whatsoever and stop brainwashing kids to want fame. That's what these people seek. They are insane and should not exist with these families. HOW DO YOU DEFEND YOUR KID AFTER THAT? That should tell you something about the parents in these cases...
@@redemedy8602 It's about the society and the volumes it speaks for itself. Most of the witnesses or "the victims" (especially the children) in the videos were unfazed and a few of them were laughing. That right there should tell you all you need to know about the society you live in. As someone who was bulled and abused, it easily could've been me in the headlines. I have no idea how I wasn't.
Bullying can literally not cause this to happen. You have to be one hell of a loser to kill innocent and unrelated victims thanks to you being a pushover as a kid. The solution to all of this is to fight back. Well, TJ wouldn’t have been able to. A sack of bones and acne can’t harm anyone without a gun, can it? Either way, this is not even close to being able to justify it.
Nikolas Cruz was terrible. I remember when I came home that day and found out about the shooting. I lived pretty close near the school and it still sickens me. I was turning 10 since it was my birthday that day and just coming home to hear about other kids who will forever be their age was just hard.
Its mind boggling to me that a criminal defense lawyer was able to blame a school shooting on mothers drinking during pregnancy. I understand lawyers have a job to do but the blatant lies and misdirection they come up with should be a criminal offence of its own sometimes. Its disrespectful to the court process, extremely belittling to the jury, and most importantly its abhorrent behavior that reaches out of its way to deny justice to the victim and their family. Its painfully obvious that defense lawyers rarely believe the excuses they come up with, so presenting them in court should be considered a malicious act against those seeking justice. You're hired to provide them with a fair trial - that's it, not to lie in court and cheat the system to award guilty people with a light sentence, or to rob the victims of the proper justice they deserve.
Yes that's what I was thinking how can someone with so much brains actually believe the shit she's spouting out of her mouth surely the jury and judge seen right through that crap and for her well if I was the judge I would of taken her licence off her what is this world coming too wow
You DO understand that a lawyer you are supposed to find ANY reason or loophole to break or lessen the charge. Even if they have to resort to statistics or cliche's of even the most miniscuel reasoning. Take a look at Amber Herds lawyer and see for yourself that they grasp at ANY straw they can find to win the case.
That first guy isn't yelling and gesturing at Lane, and saying Lane took the lives of 17 people. He's gesturing and yelling at Nikolas Cruz, who killed 17 people at Parkland's Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. That's why you aren't showing them in the same video, at the same time. How come you publicly lied about this, in your video?
Why are these creatures allowed to have a lawyer? Its fkn obvious that you have commited crime, if its mental health well tough luck, you are going down.
As someone who was bullied growing up, I totally understand many of these, especially because I contemplated the idea on doing something similar to all those who bullied me back then, but to this day I do not know what stopped me and deterred me from doing it. Maybe the voice of intuition or something else? I don’t know, but in the end I scrapped the idea. I fully comprehend being on the border of doing such event. To my defense, I was meant to do it only to those who bullied me, no other innocent or unrelated people would not be affected in any way. I know these situations are divisive to me given the bottom rock I hit decades ago, but I still can't condone these actions. Even after all these years, I am not sure if I did the right thing or not by abandoning the idea, the amount of things I had to endure and the impact on my mental health back then was staggering, to say the least. And I thought back then that I definitely needed to pay them back for all that suffering somehow.
@@JimAndersson-sv8vk Peace, bro. Even after all these years, I still struggle to identify what made me drop the idea. I literally had everything ready the night before the day I decided to do it, but suddenly... I just decided not to move forward with that plan. As you said: 'Shit people will always exist,' but you don't think that in the heat of the moment, and that is especially dangerous for those who really go through with the plan and innocent people get involved. I have zero sympathy for bullies; my concern goes more towards people who had nothing to do with the kid or teenager getting bullied.
That first kid, I don't know whether to hate him infinitely, or just to embrace him, because he redefines messed up on a whole new level beyond belief. To call him a absolute psychopath, monster, and fanatical terrorist would be an understatement, but perhaps he was so broken to the maximum level, that it doesn't matter to him anymore laughing or not, there is no soul there.
Could be true, goes to show you how hate and sadness and anger takes over, some people just learn to control the emotions. But I agree, i don’t know about it.
They do it for the money and because in America it is law that people who are arrested are provided a lawyer during their trial, even if the suspect will be guilty no matter what.
Just a heads up to everyone. These monsters are created a lot of times because of..... kids in school bullying them. So, teach your kids to respect everyone. The best way is to not gossip or judge others on front of your children because kids are the world's biggest copycats. And go to teacher meetings and ask if your kid has conflicts.
How did they even get away with making an 11ft ladder in the first place? I can't imagine something like that is easy to hide, and it can't be made immediately.
My son was murdered, but if my son EVER killed someone purposely... he'd forever be my son, and I'd stand by his side, BUT by God, he'd have to pay for his actions...with no excuses from me. I don't understand these families taking up for and condoning their kids' actions, like the one mother said...He didnt have guns. It was my gun. Well, he picked it up and used it, Mom, landing him where he belongs. In prison.. I'm so sorry to all the parents and families.
I can’t even imagine what those parents felt while in those courtrooms, as well as those kids who survived… if I was a parent of a deceased child, I don’t think there are any amount of officers who could keep me from reaching the killer in the courtroom and ending him myself.
The parents in that situation should also take a lot of the responsibility because it is common knowledge that doing those things result in mental issues for the child, however I do believe that in some cases there is no cure to their illness and it would be safer for people if they were disposed of… not in jail, but you know. GONE.
Hearing the gunfire at the movie theater over this video...gave me immediate goosebumps & I can't begin to imagine the fear in that theater that night. You're simply watching a movie and all hell breaks loose. RIP to all those lost souls.
I’m Canadian and I realize we don’t hear everything on the news from the US but I haven’t even heard 3/4 of these horrible ‘events’ (my knowledge and lack of a better known word to call it right now)! The one kid, Andy, he spoke very maturely and was very articulate with his choice of words! I will in no way ever understand why people, children, do this! I was burned 3-4 degree burns on 60% of my body in grade 3 in 1980 and when I returned to school after a long healing time, I was bullied and beat up since grade 4 right til grade 10! Not one single time in my head did I ever think of doing any of this shit! I didn’t even think or dream of ever hurting any person back for what they did! Not one single time did I even wish anyone dead for what they did! Grade 10 I kinda bloomed and became fun and outgoing and joining school things and going to events and such! I think every single day of what people did to me but I would never ever wish any type of evil or harm on anyone! I guess I’m saying my story because what these people did are not ‘mistakes’ they’re not ‘because mom drank and did drugs when I was in her belly’! I don’t believe in mental health and mental diseases used as defences! I say this because they planned it, they planned what they’ll say even, they made maps ect of the places and they killed themself or tried to so that to me makes it evident that each of these POS knew damn well what they did and what they were doing was wrong! If you know it’s wrong and if you plan you ‘after’ you know the difference between right and wrong so no it’s not mental health and no it’s not mental disease! This blows my mind how anyone could ever try to hurt any other person! This is JMO and I’m pretty sure many will agree with me! Much love and much respect and my heart goes out to every parent, every friend and every relative of someone that was killed by any one of these people who’ve done such evil! 🙏
The human brain is very complex. Under the right circumstances, there are many factors that can lead to a human killing another. I understand your shock and anger at the violence you've seen in these videos. It's natural to feel overwhelmed and seek answers to understand why such tragedies occur. I appreciate you sharing your own story of resilience and choosing compassion despite experiencing pain yourself. While your experience is admirable, it's important to remember that everyone processes trauma and hardship differently. Not everyone has the same resources or support systems to navigate difficult situations. The causes of violence are complex and multifaceted. While planning the crimes and awareness suggest knowledge of right and wrong, it doesn't negate the potential role of mental health issues. These can influence behavior in various ways, including distorted perceptions, impulsivity, or impaired judgment. Instead of seeking singular explanations, it's important to consider the broader context. Socioeconomic factors, social and cultural norms, exposure to violence, and mental health all play a role. I understand your frustration with using mental illness as a "defense," but it's not about excusing violence. It's about understanding the contributing factors and seeking comprehensive solutions. But at the end of the day, those killers must be imprisoned for life or get the death sentence.
@@anasbtrthank you for your words! I truly helped me think of things in a different way! I appreciate and respect the words you chose and your ‘tone’ when speaking to me! Your comment has made me think of so many things in so many different ways! The brain is the most mysterious, complex and yet intriguing organ and it controls thought, memory, emotion, touch, motor skills, vision, breathing, temperature, hunger and every process that regulates our body! I wish I was young again because if I ever had the chance to do a do-over I’d become someone who studies the brain’s neuroanatomy and neuroscience! After reading your comment and truly ‘listening’, so to speak, to you, it gives me even greater interest! Thank you! 🙏
Just to make this clear before saying anything else this doesn't excuse any of the acts especially not those who weren't bullied. But what would you do if you were bullied for years by everyone every attempt to get help was denied or let off having no way of dealing with it. Would you feel remorse after killing those who made you suffer? I don't say that it's right to feel no remorse but would you feel any remorse?
@@venomplays1349I mean what else are they gonna do ? Showing any remorse won’t reduce their sentence by a significant amount (if any), so eh, why show it at all
Bullying has gone on forever, since I was younger, but it’s not until recently that kids think taking a gun to school is the right way to handle things. Where the heck did this come from?
Regardless of whoever it is ,as per lawyer’s profession ethics You must defend you client whatsoever he/she is It’s literally their job Your emotions don’t work in real world courts you fool
No, I doubt that any lawyer has a problem with that. They shouldn't. Defending someone like that is not about being on their side. It means that you make sure that they get a fair sentence, that's the duty of a lawyer. While it's obvious in the cases shown here (it's a rather dramatic RUclips video after all) justice is a complicated thing and mistakes happen. A lot of people sitting in jail being innocent and it's often enough their lawyers who didn't do their job.
I feel for the ones that were bullied. Took it too far and were too weak. When your home life sucks, peers attack you from all angles, and you’re punished if you stick up for yourself... It’s not fair, but be stronger than this
Bullies shouldn't bully. End of story, in my opinion. Eventually people snap. I've got no sympathy for bullies-- and I've never been bullied myself.m. You can't bully someone and expect nothing to happen. Especially in the real world, outside of high school. It's not being "weak".
@@katieghoul0092 it is weak and very much persists after highschool. You can’t be mad at Uncle Sam for taking half your money, can’t be mad when the woman you married uses state legislature to take your kids, when a marginalized group takes a spotlight to you for cancel culture, police mad your making more money than them or just because they can and forgot their gun wasn’t a taser, your boss makes sure you kiss ass even though you already earned the promotion through hard work and merit. Should people always strive to be the best versions of themselves? Yes. But unfortunately punching down has zero to little repercussions and truthfully gets you a bit more ahead than being the “bigger person”
a psycho? he didnt come to the school with intent to shoot indiscriminately. he killed one person, the person who was beating him. he shouldnt have escalated to pulling a gun but in a country where u have such easy access it isnt insane to do as an act of self defence. 12 years is more than reasonable. calling him a 'school shooter' at all is just wrong. he shot someone in a school, he didnt shoot it up
White kids shoot schools and laugh in court and look blankly into the void. Black kid does it and cries his ass off in regret, faking or not it's more human than any of the others..@@notavailable4596
The fact that he was allowed to wear this shirt in court is repulsive.
That should have been ripped from him in court as soon as he showed it with that stupid smirk-knowing it would hurt the bereaved parents even more…so WHY DIDNT THE JUDGE SAY TAKE HIM OUT AND REMOVE THAT HEINOUS TEESHIRT NOW !!!!! …
He wasn't exactly allowed to... he snuck it in.
He's just utilizing his right to freedom of speech and self expression
Scumbags have rights here in this great country!
@@John-zm5kk Trash like this have no rights.
They won't be smiling when they arrive in an adult prison.
Enter a adult prison....AUTHOR: BEN DOVER
Prison will not change anything People have died and it is over
that why the first one escaped using ladder with his other 2 friends , that sound they have the luxury to make friend and to make plans
its a he* idiot
You know he cried in jail tj lane!
That kid who survived the attack and showed his scar is a trooper peace and love to all the families who suffered loss from these monsters
Also probably has crippling survivors guilt
I hear that criminals inside prison don't like child murderers!! Some have been beaten so severely and some killed!!
Why isn't access to guns restricted to ordinary citizens in this country? In Europe, kids don't shoot up in schools because their fathers don't have arsenals of weapons in their basements. There's something wrong when you can't legally purchase alcohol under the age of 21, but you have no problem to buy an AR-15. Americans' belief that owning a gun is one of their basic rights has its roots in the beginnings of the country, and no one realized that we are in the 21st century and it is completely wrong. In May 2022, the powerful NRA lobby (National Rifle Association) won a lowering of the age to purchase this type of weapon - from 21 to 18 years.
@@AgainstDaOddz meh at school it's pretty easy to exit just don't stay couped up with teachers in the building
666 comments is crazy
I find it crazy how family members always say "he's not a monster"
Definitely denial
Families stick together all the time. They may hate the guy deep inside but the exterior needs to be supportive
Bro the fault is not what family said. Its just normal to support your own family. Your mother will do the same if you kill 3 peoples or worst than that.
No, mine definitely would not do that. And that is correct. Should be no sympathy for such acts.
What can i say.. we live our lives with demons
The fact that he was allowed to wear that shirt and wasn’t gagged is absolutely sickening.
It's a good thing that he was free to wear it because it exposes him for what he is. The community doesn't need to feel sorry for him after this. Let them say and wear what they want. We have to see them for what they are and decide from there.
common sense couldve won here but it didnt: he should wear the shirt, it exposes him for all that he is. He should not have heard the testimonials, he clearly wants to see pain on others, emotional/physical/etc.
It's a shooter, you think they'll show any remorse?
He also escaped from prison somehow 🤪
Why you people saying it exposes who he is lol. He already exposed who he is
I'm a parent so I understand these parents pain, but if you understand the psychology of these psychopaths ..they actually get great pleasure from hearing the pain that they caused. These impact statements just gives these monsters satisfaction...I wouldn't even bother addressing them. Nikolas Cruz in his video he made minutes before the shooting said he can't wait to see and hear the pain of the parents and loved ones. They already know prior to doing what they did...that they're going to die in prison. They just don't care.
@tercsi1 plus, psychopaths and sociopaths have narcissistic personality disorder, all of your infamous serial killers had it:
John Wayne Gacy
Richard Ramirez
Dean Corll
Joseph James De'Angelo
T.J. Lane
Ted Bundy
Rodney Alcala
H.H. Holmes
Nicholas Cruz
And many more
not all of these kids were psychos some just needed a parent or teacher to step in and stop the bullying but nobody ever would,if your kid is being bullied you don't tell him to man up and deal with it or he will
I'm pretty sure they ain't smiling anymore.
@@MsWiccanpriestessyou forgot charles manson brett cowan arthur brown stanley brown Martin bryant ivan milat susan smith & green River scumbag etc lol...
or is it just "all white people" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂I feel sorry for the families but this is hilarious when "a black person steals some food or clothing from a store their whole race are profiled/stereotyped we'll take a look at your own kind before judging others
I totally agree with you. I don't think the producers should have mentioned their names for obvious reasons. Additionally I was disturbed to see some of the victims being asked to recount their experience. That cannot be good for mental health, and frankly I couldn't watch more than about a third of the piece. It felt a bit like violence porn.
For TJ Lane, carefully watch his facial expression when he was called a coward. Before that, he had a slight smirk on his face. But when she called his actions cowardly, that smirk was gone.
3:12
I think that was a pixel glitch, not a change of facial expression
You can tell by the way his eyes are blinking that he is uncomfortable. He is hearing what everyone is saying and it is bothering him. No matter how strong he builds up his walls, he can't hide his fear.
@@zacklande5159 exactly. He was definitely fearful of spending his life in jail by how much he kept on blinking, what a fucking coward.
THAT FIRST PART IS EDITED!!! The killer there is tj lane of “chardon shooting “ the guy whos mad is actually yelling at the parklamd shooter (nicholas cruz)
First guy’s lawyer was like “alright why am I here if his shirt says killer?” 💀
😂😂😂 Lol
He doesn't care as long as he is getting paid, Even if it was the devil himself, he will still defend him for a couple of bucks.
FRFR 😂
I hate how these soulless killers have an entire room of police to protect them if someone attempts to jump at them for remorselessly murdering their beloved ones.
Those police aren’t going to prison with them
That's why he smirking like the btch he is he knows he protected
@@thecomedypilot5894ermm akhuattly it's the law 🤓🤓🤓
@@thecomedypilot5894the law can burn in hell
The law cares more for their safety than they do justice
I hate how people say they arent evil. They killed people... THAT IS EVIL
What about soldiers that kill their enemies? Is that evil or protecting their country?
@@supercordz Geh'head & get back on those meds, babe.
@@supercordzhow dare you compare that to ruthlessly murdering CHILDERN which have done NOTHING to him you’re just as bad as him
@@supercordz bro are u ok man? So if I kill a whole damn town isnt that evil? Are u really gonna compare that shit with the soldiers? Nah man ur so messed up bro
@@supercordzyou must be crazy 😢
My birth mother drank alcohol and did drugs while pregnant with me yet here I am 44 years old with 0 criminal record and not even a speeding ticket. Stop making excuses for pure evilness.
This is no excuse for slime of this kind.
The beginning sneak peak was CRAZY.
Imagine you survive a school shooting, you visit the court to see the murderer’s sentence and they say that the have that killed 17 kids now masturbates to the memory. With a SMILE on his face.
those are two different different clips from two different trials although what he said is disgusting and horrible he was not replying to the person in the first clip 🤔
The guy smiling is the Chardon shooter. And The guy is talking to Nikolas Cruz
6:47
I was bullied as a kid but I found a way to learn, grow, and not hold in the anger. I'm stronger for it but this is absolutely terrifying seeing these kids.
I guess these kids didn't hold in the anger either ;)
I was too. But I had a mother and a father that stood by me , and I did not turn out to be a murderer.
I was bullied too. Mercilessly. I almost lost vision in one eye. I can understand the anger at the bullies. But killing people is never the answer.
@@fenuays9662
But What If The Bullie Came At You With A Knife 🗡️🔪
So yall beter now? no disrespect but whats the point of comparing.
comments looks like a self pat on the shoulder
"Another one bites the dust" Is fucking insane. This man needs 50 life sentences
Compared to the crime the verbal barb was a big nothingburger. Trolls can only hurt you if you set yourself up to be offended in the first place. Why would I give emotional weight to what that person said in the first place? Its just an opportunity for them to take or leave, and in that case the opportunity was left in the dust so-to-speak.
Not as nuts as saying “this same hand that pulled the trigger that killed your son, now masturbates to the memory”
@@ethanlewis1453nick tho he's laughing
1000 life sentence + rape by black inmates
🤣 praise allah
2:00, after he made those comment the judge should’ve said fuck it. You’re getting the death penalty….
why
@@avakinlifeuser6888.
But I don’t think you can give the death penalty to a minor can you? He was 17, wasn’t he?
@@davidforden touché….
@@davidfordenno he was 17
You cant get to the first person by telling him what he did, you get to him by getting in his head attacking his character his insecurities.
I feel bad for kids who get bullied at school, or having abusive parents, but taking your anger out like this is just horrible.
I agree 100% totally
Lots of people get bullied. I think it's easy for people to say 'I did [bad thing] because x or y happened to me'.
Ultimately we are conscious beings, if we choose the act we need to own the consequences.
Bullies shouldn't bully. End of story, in my opinion. Eventually people snap. I've got no sympathy for bullies-- and I've never been bullied myself. Actions have consequences. You can't bully someone and expect nothing to happen. Especially in the real world, outside of high school.
@@katieghoul0092 so if I bullied someone in high school they have the right to murder me?
@@katieghoul0092ur the only person with a brain fr. Bullying people affect the lives of those forever. I still think of being bullied in ELEMENTARY even. Its insane how people can never sympathise for people who are in pain if they listened maybe things like this wouldn’t happen
How could you be insulting the judge when defending such a monster? I’d be giving the middle finger to myself to even allow such defense to happen.
Ha, money is money, even being the one with the gun
This happends because people call their monsters and hate them, it starts with minor things and the ruthlessness and little forgiveness of society drive them to psicological problems. You will not resolve nothing calling their monsters. Just imagine that the hate you could feel to them is the hate they had when killing those people.
@@dahaka55555 society made a monster, then they imprison there work afterwards
stop tripping, the kid got issues, that's all. he just needs understanding.
@@klaggydowsh1388 No, he did it, not the parents. Everybody has free will to choose. The hardship can make hero or monster, if you punish other than the sinner, you allow the sin, even here with idiotic libtards logic.
0:40 What is the point of censoring the middle finger? It's not like we are watching a video of killers that murdered kids..
wait, how did you know it was the middle finger? i couldn't tell since it was blurred. omg if that's true i would be so offended! thank you censorship! I'm safe from all harm!
RUclips policy
Indeed, but that's just RUclips. Their team bans channels and videos because of the smallest things, and people dont want to lose their channels.
It's cus of youtube who is she/them💀
@badkitty5065 bro what its just the middle finger💀
“The villains can’t be that bad.”
The villains:
Villains aren't born they are made.
Someone acted violent to someone and that someone acted even more violent to someone else.
Nah these are not villains they are better, these are devil
Mental health shouldn't be an excuse for murder
you sure?
In what country do you live in where mental health is an excuse for murder? Do you think they just let you get away with it if you're mentally ill? 😂 Even if you're found "Guilty but mentally ill" or "not guilty by way of insanity" you'll spend most likely the rest of your life in a high security mental institution. You don't just go free
@@Fishstickmemes69420yeah
It’s not an excuse, no one is getting away with murder because of having a mental illness. It is a reason, though. It does explain the action. It doesn’t make the action any less horrific or heartbreaking.
As soon as u hurt someone else i dnt care how mad u r
As a Kindergarten teacher.....I listen to this video.......I visualize the faces of my students.....How could anyone intentionally harm a child?
Yeah, it is the most disgusting and repulsive thing I have ever heard.
It truly is heartbreaking I have nothing but disgust for these creatures. My blood is boiling watching this.
Idk this is disgusting
They’re psychopaths, it’s unbelievable
by being constantly bullied for years and seeing nobody caring, maybe
as a student this makes my stomach curdle. im so sorry for anyone who has experienced this, no one should ever go through this.
Don’t pick on your classmates
@@Itsnotmyname1172 real. don’t pick on the quiet kid 🥷🔫
You don't complain about the last of us turning them into clickers! Or about what u do in gta 5
HUH ?@@dumann9142
@@Itsnotmyname1172I remember that was the Valentine's Day school Massacre Dr Phil tried to get some background history he had guests on the show
i cannot explain how disgusted i am to these type of monsters. i COULD NEVER forgive a disgusting act like this.
God will who cares about ur forgoveness people suffer before it turn them into this society is cruel
judge: I sentence you to 12 life sentences and 3,318 years
prisoner: yeah man, like if i lived that long
😂😂😂
Actually once a prisoner was medically dead and then revived a few seconds later. He challenged the life imprisonment order on the ground that he had already died and thus his sentence was over. Resulted in a lot of hassle. Maybe this is to prevent that from happening again.😂
they do that so there is no chance of release
😂😂😂😊
Still pointless@@randonamedboosh
The first guys response was on a different level. No coming back from that. Insane that he killed, wore the shirt, then said that, and added a middle finger on top of it all. No words.
Exactly I had no words after how he responded
He’s on new level of hell in a few years
It was planned and rehearsed. He stumbled when he said it too. His attitude is far from remorseful, of course, but he's also not very bright
I was a student at the SFISD middle school on May 18th, 2018. At 740am, the school went on lockdown, and about half an hour later, the news of an active gunman at the high school had been spread like wildfire.
Now, I have graduated from that exact high school, and still, ITS BEEN 6 ENTIRE YEARS, and the families of the victims, as well as our entire community, have not received deserved justice. He can not claim "mental illness" to a premeditated act that he pursued and then took 10 innocent lives without any remorseful reasoning behind it.
I lost a friend 6 years ago.. my classmate lost his older sister 6 years ago.. my neighbor lost her son 6 years ago.
That monster is well over "sane enough" to stand trial and receive his rightful punishment. And until he gets the rest of his pathetic life behind bars, the city of Santa Fe and all surrounding areas will not rest peacefully. Until he himself is ripped from his very life among humankind, we will not be tamed of our infuriating hatred.
5/18/18
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I'm sorry you had to go through that. These monsters don't deserve to share the same oxygen as their victims
Why does he look like Sid from Toy Story😂😂💀
True💀
Whom?
What's even more crazy is the fact that the people who committed these crimes are teenagers.
I never see or treat them as "little children" like some of your gringos do. To me teenagers are young adults, capable of many things..
Little children as in anyone around 4-12. @@doublesunday1268
@@doublesunday1268 It seems you are the dumb one for not getting what he means,be careful with insults as it can be hilariously ironic. He is upset that people often go easy in these teenagers because they view them as too young and people sympathize with them too much.
Mexico
Teenagers crave more attention beacuse of social media. Also a lot happens with brain development under those years. Weapons being legal to own isnt a good combo
How could they build a 12' ladder with out anyone noticing them? how dumb is the prison staff?
11’*
Maybe it was kinda like a clothed ladder
10
You could maybe hide 20-30 feet of pvc or whatever you could get your hands on in a mattress or something, sneak the piping out in a wheelbarrow or something like that (assuming your work uses wheelbarrows) and quickly assemble a makeshift ladder. People in prison have so much time on their hands it’s crazy. With 1000+ hours of planning, it’s impressive what even the most stupid people can accomplish.
never been to prison have you?@@RextheDinoGD
The first coward that gave the finger is probably gonna have hell of a time in prison.
Without doubt!
Most likely become some T bags bitch boy holding T bag trouser pocket. Lol
He’s been in prison for 12 years, there is no “gonna” 😂
@@ghostwaterjones5187 wonder how hes doing.
no “probably” WILL.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here..
That lawyer that showed the middle finger and laughed should be disbarred
You see why your society never gets better and will never ever get better but worse?? Look at the comment section yall are still so wrapped up in your scientific explanation, to the extent that you're blinded to what causes all this! American society banned the bible, the moment a teacher tries to teach about the love of God he or she looses her job, yall pushed God out and brough the devil in... still no-one sees it...America is a doomed nation!
Who did he show finger to, ,
As a student who was bullied, sexually harassed and didn’t speak up about it for three years, yes it hurt. But never in my life would I ever have so much anger and resentment towards society that I end up taking someone’s life.
Can’t really believe comments these days
Did you just snitch on yourself for being a school shooter 🤦
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@@justyouraverageyoutuber5218can you not read
Are you dum?@@justyouraverageyoutuber5218
No matter how tough TJ acted the fear in his face was obvious. He knows where he’s going and he knows it will be for the rest of his life. Prison will wipe that smirk off his face.
I want to know more about him though... I want to know why he decided to bring a gun, and shoot those specific people.
@@augiz261 cos he was too pussy to actually fight 😂 if he didn’t hide behind a gun any one of those victims would’ve left him blubbering in a dumpster, same as how he’s forcing a smirk cos he knows his ugly ass would get torn apart without those officers there
Prison ain’t that bad bro lol I’ve been , you actually nowadays get a tablet to play games on in prison , it’s wild how much stuff they let us have access to in prison
@@komahowe4443it depends on what you did. They’d find out he took the lives of multiple innocents and the inmates would make him their B$&
@@TheRealTact it just really really depends so for a case like this they would classify him as what they call G3 and they would put him on what they call 23/1 , 23 hours in his cell one hour out of it alone , to make phone calls or shower, they only people who get beat up and stuff in prison are like child predators and rapist , murder is quite common in prison , I’ve sat in a group of them in a prayer circle in there , I once talked with a guy who had killed his wife and chopped her body up , nobody gave him a hard time and he was a small guy, typically inmates don’t care as much about murder and care more about bullying the child predators
This is what happens when you punish kids for defending themselves from bullies.
Agreed.
That's where this comes from?
Someone explain the correlation here?
I think he is trying to say some kids resort to shooting bc of bullying @@lIllIlIIllII
@@officialmwattersonkids who’ve been bullied, the more brutal the bullying the worse the consequences. If they don’t work through it in therapy or by themselves, this is a pretty logical response psychologically speaking. The kids who died had nothing to do with it, but for him that doesn’t matter. He sees all of them as bullies. And that for him, was retaliation against them. In no way I’m excusing this or anything, just explaining.
As a father of 2 little ones, I am scared of sending my children to school when their time comes. Absolutely terrified. This country cares about money too much than the safety of our children and its law abiding citizens.
Blame Republican gunnuts
@@drivethruabortion280blame democrats who keep pushing for schools to be “gun free zones”
Home school
Move to Europe
@@romystumpy1197 europe is a 💩 country, no
I realize the defense’s job is to provide a vigorous defense for their client. However, in Nicolas Cruz’s case, the lack of respect these lawyers showed to the court, family of the victims and victims themselves was appalling. I have never seen anything like it. Sickening
That defense attorney better hope she never gets in range of any of the victim's families.
The fact that a school shooter* can kill almost 20 people and still be alive is crazy
My thought too
Cruz narrowly avoided the death penalty by just one juror. But don't think he's going to have it easy in prison.
The Judge who sentenced him also invoked the "Son of Sam Law" on him. This means that not only is he not allowed to make money off of his story, but any money he receives on his books will be garnished to pay his restitution he owes, so he won't be able to buy anything off of the commissary, and will have to rely on the meager rations the prison gives him. He's going to be looking like Gollum when he dies.
Also prison inmates typically don't like school shooters and will do everything they can to make his life hell. And before anyone brings up protective custody, in the state of Florida they don't actually have to grant you that.
@859foh they'll have to ALL answer to God one day.
“He spared the students he liked”
That’s why you never make enemies people.
where?
Facts. Not trying to defend manslaughter, but if you treat someone like shit, better prepare for the worse when they decide to get revenge.
but where?
@@kaiman593
nobody need to defend it for it beeing real, crying bitches in court wont change that this will happen again, some people want to kill, and it wont stop, not as long we dont change as a society@@kaiman593
@@kaiman593agree
As a High School Student, nothing scares me more than that the thought of a student trying to get attention through shooting other students. If there's anything we should take from this, it's that we should NOT be like these monsters. We should take action if we see anything suspicious. We shouldn't back down. We should stand up for it
be grateful for the freedom to buy guns in america, that is the only issue, where I live it don't happen but not because kids arent crazy, just because it's not easy to get guns here
@@Joseph12O yeah, y'know i was not an asshole, maniac or evil in high-school, but i thought everyone else was, and angry and unstable, so really, i understand how many people could possibly commit such atrocities, but there's just one place they actually are given the option
@@ogladaczr.t.3168only in america I see a school and think "oh that's like a prison" they even have guards and have locked doors. We don't have that in europe, we don't need to check in the distance if we see a reflection and think we are back in war.
@@ogladaczr.t.3168 nobody really needs that, but changing things now would be useless anyway
Then do not create these monsters
6:28 trying to blame his mother for his actions 20 years after being born is the weirdest defence I've ever heard
it’s literally always the parent’s fault
low iq inability to understand time makes it worse and not better
When someone takes substances such as cocaine whilst a child is in the womb it effects them on a biological level and can cause a multitude of things so I wouldn’t doubt it
@@user-hm9ik6xq5n not really
He's right though.
He's brain works this way, he's a psychopath because of his mother. He shouldn't blame her, but she definitely did a big mistake and has a fault.
"You needed an AR15 to do that because otherwise Joaquin would have beaten the sh!t out of you!"
😂I FELT THAT!🎤👋💯
Yeah, agreed, just not with the laughing emoji
ik. Ignorant. I can't see any humor in this.
why u laughing retard
Joaquin can no longer beat the shit out of him. Gotta respect the quiet kid.
@@szhou8813i agree
Yep, that’s why the de*th penalty should never be outlawed
I think it should only be given to those who have done terrible things and the court is certain of it
The penalty is immoral period
A lawyer flipping people off. Sooo professional.
If you're referring to the Nikolas Cruz (2nd video) it's the child's mother. Terrible family...
Dang thank you for correcting me then. Still terrible yes.@@Frantik775
Wait, what?! Nikolas and his brother were adopted and their adoptive parents both passed away! So who's the parent there?!
@@Frantik775no it wasn't it's one of his many attorneys have you even watched any videos on nick Cruz? I don't think so..... Shame telling not true information!
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@@Frantik775 it's Tamara L Curtis. She got an admonishment from the Bar for this act.
i was in the school shooting with timothy simpkins and it was honestly the most terrifying morning of my life i was so grateful i was able to see my family again that late afternoon. seeing him in this video wasn’t a shock to me but i definitely wasn’t expecting to see him in one of these videos 2 almost 3 years later october 6,2021 changed my life forever.
u lying dawg stop telling this bs on the interent ain't nobody biting dat shit
Thank you for talking about it yesterday. Very challenging. God bless You and your family
I am so sorry for you and you are so brave ❤❤❤❤
I’m so sorry, I could never imagine that. Stay strong.
OK 👍
I can’t imagine being a defense attorney for a killer like this. .
That's why you better call Saul.
@@m97polskagood way of bringing down this joke 😂
Womp Womp, u was prolly a bully jackass, Y ask y school shooters retaliate?
Their eyes are filled with evil
As hard as it had to be to watch Lane, him being aware and smirking honestly is a good sign. He isn't crazy, he isn't numb to anything. He definitely figured out very quick exactly what he did snd what he is. A monster. Prison tends to give the justice deserved most of the time. That guy wakes up everyday now while those he smirked at have moved on and live their lives.
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Nope in their minds they achieved something and he is alive. Others not. Hardship prison just makes him stronger. Thats why they do it.
@@ImadZeryouh so he enjoys being raped every night? Doubt it. I personally don't think that was on his mind when he did what he did.
@@angkangkr
Dont think one can move on from the lose of a child….
I was bullied plenty growing up, was raped at age 6, but never did i think gunning people down was gonna make it all "better". Ridiculous excuses from demons
I was raised by my grandma cayse my parents were drug addicts, i have some mental issues and was bullied everyday in school! I cried almost everyday and had like no friends… i didnt harm anyone either
Hey I hope you are doing better, drink some water, get rest, go treat yourself ❤
Hope your life is better now and things are good I hate to hear your pain be well life is cruel sometimes
I bet nobody wants a similar experience during life
I’m 40, turned 40 in October, I’ve lived with my parents my whole life due to disabilities! I’ve been Bullied my entire life into my adulthood! I’ve fought back every single time, Verbally, and I might of thrown hands once maybe twice in my life! Never did I ever consider becoming a school or workplace shooter! I’m tired of the BS excuses! 🤦♂️
we need to show these videos in schools, we shouldn't play pretend that kids can't do evil things, nor should we pretend that we can't prevent this from ever happening.
how would that discourage it?
Showing this to kids is going to have the opposite effect you seem to think it would. These school shootings would almost never happen if not for the news and social media glorifying it and shoving it in everyone's faces. That's what the news has been doing for every shooting since Columbine, and all it's done is increase the rate at which these things happen.
This shit literaly happens only in the US of A :D It is totally preventable.
@@heftyindI hate those two boys, eric and david or whatever, anyone who hurts an innocent bystander with a WEAPON is a oussy, you can’t even use your hands?
@@prosra not only, but generally
Each day i feel lucky to go to chool in the uk.
God bless all the families of victims involved
The issue is that schools don't tackle bullying. There should be a three warning system... beyond that, you are out of public school system for life. Why should the rest of people suffer from those kids?
This is true. But bullying can be hard to prove. But I do agree that bullying is a huge problem. Hell. Even adults bully each other
@@antbanks415 It's a behavior. How hard is it to deal with one's unethical "behavior". They are cameras all over school (except bathrooms and locker rooms). Play them back and administrate punishments. Assume the first time they don't have an evidence. The parties are called into the office and the affair is investigated. Now those perpetrators will go under the microscope here on after. If you know moving forward your actions will be monitored and future incidents will have consequences, you'll be much less likely to commit them. Second, schools can use these as teaching moments to edify the bullies to become a better version of themselves.
When you don't want to pay taxes to help children with their mental health, you will never be rid of these problems. There is a reason why almost every single one of these videos are from The United States.
Despite these assholes doing the crazy shit they did, most of them probably were bullied. Despite being broken by bullying, some of these guys are still p*ssies deep down
Because they didnt help...
I been bullied but i stood up to my bullies untill i wasnt bullied. Bullies hate to be confronted.
Thats the way. I was bullied 1st grade through grade 12. 9-12 i was just ignored but 1-7 was full of verbal abuse and physical abuse. I knocked out one of them after 7 years of crap, and while i was ignored, i was never bullied again. College was great because i wasnt in a school full of hypocritical Christians
So did they, just with a gun
bullied hate to be offed too. "bullies hate this trick"
I was bullied and kept getting called a school shooter in middle school. Yes bullying needs to stop but that's not an excuse to hurt people and to enjoy it. They want attention and will do anything for it that's why these shootings continue to happen
No you weren't. You wish you had that much attention. You dream of being noticed.
@@hellinterface6721 how would you know buddy? were you there with them?
@@hellinterface6721 Mature
@@hellinterface6721Reported
@@hellinterface6721 i agree with you bro ignore these bitches
As a non American citizen i want to know why they do this?
Cuz they are mentally sick thats why
The lifestyle is different there.. America teens don't have strong family structure that prevents them from doing stuff like this. Also getting weapons is easier there than in my country in Africa. Weapons arent a way of life for us
Thats why many countries don't allow guns, American said its because people not gun but a teenage would never done such a damage with a knife or any kind of weapons other than a gun or explosive stuff
They're a country with more weapons than people, and a shockingly little amount of human/workers rights. Anyone who isn't a gun waving maniac knows that
Poor Parenting and their Government. In our culture, parents typically wont stop supporting us until finishing college or even after that. Theyll do it as long as they can do it, so we can turnback to them whenever we want to without any pressure, so in turn they will expect help whenever they become older.
Judging by most ages of these assholes, its safe to say its the pressure of being left alone out their parent's care. its usually these losers 15-18 who have basically have nothing going with their lives nearing the age where there parents expect them to live their own lives. So with a mentality of having nothing to lose, they do these kinda shit. And as for their government fault, kids can basically get guns everywhere if they look hard enough, because freedom.
Bullying can push kids over the edge, hate creates more hate.
Well said I’m not saying that Nick Cruz is innocent he did discussing thing but why what drove him to to that yes he killed a lot of kids innocent kids just because he made a bad decision doesn’t mean that he never got bullied and picked on what if some of the kids he did hurt did really bully him the parents with all do respect I know that’s their children but they don’t know how there kids act at school they think they know but they really don’t know not saying it’s and excuse for him to kill but let’s get to the real bottom of this shit
@@eriktrevino6115 yeah, I’m not saying what he did was right but there’s gotta be a reason these kids are lashing out like this.
@LastmanStanding-wy5tx what’s your point still don’t resolve the issue that’s always been there since one of the first school shootings in 99 in columbine it’s always the same thing with these school shooters most of them do look like they were picked on it some form if you went to high school in America you should understand it’s sad that people wana make changes when shit happens but we never get down to the issue is bullying any form you can’t just look at people getting killed then say yea lock him up put him away if thats the only thing we’re doing is just locking them up can we get to the root of the problem and go to theses schools elementary junior high high school staff and parents need to to know what’s going on in the school
Dont parents teach their kids to tell them what happens no matter what? Its absoutely the fault of the shooter
Eh that combined with the fact that the consequences are just too small. I’m sorry but none of these received the death penalty for premeditated murder of children… absolutely disgusting. They’re getting well fed, taken care of, and are now famous the rest of their lives. They feed off that. Sick world, weak justice system.
I'm a kid and seeing this wants to make me home schooled
These thumbnails are so disrespectful.
That's the point,they get you to click.
They’re so dogshit
@@battlemaster525I swear if parents jumped to attack killers, I would be the slowest cop ever 😂😂😂
@@Vegeta_ultra_ego-v2u Fair enough,but you could get in trouble if it's obvious.
@@battlemaster525 Yeah you're right about that
I've been bullied and threatened in my school year's but I never went to the extent of wanting to kill people. I learnt to defend myself in other ways and or ignore it. Most of these cases they should be jailed for life without parole. My condolences to the families who lost there loved ones, God Bless them all!🙏🏻
I never got bullied in high school, I got discriminated by adults because of my learning disability. I was obsessed with satanic stuff, and thoughts of doing curse magic to cause problems on people. I realize demons were just trying to use me for their agenda
I would have been so afraid of you. I knew a kid like that in high school and I was so afraid of him doing something stupid so I just skipped the last day of school.
damn, good for you for learning self defense in other ways
@ballsinyourjaws4479 No idea why you would be, it's only self defense.
@@ClockSolver not sure if you're being sarcastic or genuine.
I bet Lane lost his smug smirk shortly after arriving at the prison.
I'm almost positive they got to the point that they just didn't care anymore.
People really forget what brought these people to this point the moment they decide to take action into their own hands.
Although before anyone gets any ideas, I do not condone the actions of these individuals because as a person who could have been pushed to this limit I can say I just "Got over it" despite how much I loath other people.
@@PrincessSunbuttOHHHH! HE IS ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE IN THERE! that why tried 2 escape. I’m been there. IT AINT FUN! Your surrounded my other MISERABLE PEOPLE! Imagine being in a cell no bigger than a bathroom and every time someone takes a dump u got 2 smell it. Hours seems like days days seem like weeks and so on. The biggest punishment besides bullying is BOREDOM!
@@PrincessSunbuttdon’t remind of their NASTY FOOD!🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I bet he will be Bubbas boy toy.
@@PrincessSunbuttthey're foolish because they think they have "nothing left to lose," which is only partially true in their case.
I dont think they really considered that being r4ped every day in prison might be worse than getting killed.
They don't actually know how much they have to lose, I think. So they act smug because they're used to "soft" (relatively speaking) punishment, being arrested is basically a slap on the wrist and i think these kids actually believe the life sentence is as bad as it'll get.
The dude straight up said “if I’m not locked up I’ll do it again” and they still give him the possibility of parole dude what 😂😂
Im 16 and in highschool and I have never been on a school shooting but i really hope I don't end up being in one. Idk why people just wake up and decide "oh im gonna shoot up a school" but to the parents who's kids died in school shootings:
My condolences to you all.
It's because they are victims of bullying potentially like people such as yourself that can't see that that
I grew up in the 80s. School shootings didn’t happen or weren’t even heard of. I feel sorry for the young people today. Horrible times to be growing up 👋
They're trying to take away the 2nd Amendment.
That’s so true. I was in middle school when the Colorado shooting happened and it was unheard of!
I don’t live in America and it still isn’t a thing
The problem is these kids obviously want attention. I know colobine there wasn’t social media, however, they played that that on the news for months. These kids want to be famous anyway they can. Social media makes all of this worse.
Only on America
The justice system is way too soft in this country!😡😡
Soft and sick. But still biased.
@@CheTheDriver
If You Were Wrongfully Convicted Of A Crime That You Didnt Do/Commit And Ended Up 🆙 Spending 10 Years In Prison For That Wrongful Conviction Or If You Were Diagnosed With A Terminal Cancer ♋ As A Result Of Your Work Place Negligence Would You Be Bee 🐝 Justified In Murdering Innocent 😇 People To Get Back 🔙 At Society For Those Injustices?.
In the Uk, the justice system is just as bad. 🤦♂️
@@UKSKIDS
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This is so frustrating when people say that they are a good kid and not evil, like they know what they’re doing as a teenager and they know it’s wrong
Ein Hauch von Tül.
As a student in middle school, this scares me
Do not be scared, have faith in God that he will protect you no matter what, He loves you and cares about you!
Amen
@@AndrewSM01What do you think happened to all those students who prayed to god and got shot and killed regardless?
@@AndrewSM01”Thoughts and Prayers” have never saved anyone
Just be kind and be observant, I'm genuinely sorry this even has to be considered for you, that is understandably scary.
My condolences to the parents and friends of those kids. Rest in Peace
yooooo is that the grape duck in ur pfp ?????????
@@AZOOZ4A It is the grape duck
Lemonade stand
lemonade
Get this man some grapes
That father is in crazy denial - your son shot and killed 10 people! He’s a murderer.
Why the hell are they allowed to wear shirts, bring sings,do disgusting in the court room without any consequences. Does the system not haul them from jail to court
After they are guilty they don't have many rights left, but there is some sort of floor of respect given to any living human even if they are evil. But that said, I doubt this is allowed to happen most of the time or that there are not consequences.
@ethanlewis1453 You'd be surprised what rights they have.
Those Innocent People May They’re Souls Rest In Peace 🕊️🙏🏽
Womp womp
@@blackbanjo45 What You Saying That Too People Dying ?
@@siarriacox2965 Yes
@@blackbanjo45 Lol God Got Plans For You So I’m Not About To Waste My Time on You .. Be Blessed And Comment Some Where Else .
Teach your kids not to bully others. Maybe that will decrease the occurrence of these events.
that's where the US has a problem, their education system is based entirely on bullying. Frats, Soroities, Cheerleaders & ugly girls, quarterbacks & geeks.
no just stop promoting it whatsoever and stop brainwashing kids to want fame. That's what these people seek. They are insane and should not exist with these families. HOW DO YOU DEFEND YOUR KID AFTER THAT? That should tell you something about the parents in these cases...
@@redemedy8602 It's about the society and the volumes it speaks for itself.
Most of the witnesses or "the victims" (especially the children) in the videos were unfazed and a few of them were laughing. That right there should tell you all you need to know about the society you live in.
As someone who was bulled and abused, it easily could've been me in the headlines. I have no idea how I wasn't.
Bullying can literally not cause this to happen. You have to be one hell of a loser to kill innocent and unrelated victims thanks to you being a pushover as a kid. The solution to all of this is to fight back. Well, TJ wouldn’t have been able to. A sack of bones and acne can’t harm anyone without a gun, can it? Either way, this is not even close to being able to justify it.
people who do this are bullies
Nikolas Cruz was terrible. I remember when I came home that day and found out about the shooting. I lived pretty close near the school and it still sickens me. I was turning 10 since it was my birthday that day and just coming home to hear about other kids who will forever be their age was just hard.
Its mind boggling to me that a criminal defense lawyer was able to blame a school shooting on mothers drinking during pregnancy. I understand lawyers have a job to do but the blatant lies and misdirection they come up with should be a criminal offence of its own sometimes. Its disrespectful to the court process, extremely belittling to the jury, and most importantly its abhorrent behavior that reaches out of its way to deny justice to the victim and their family. Its painfully obvious that defense lawyers rarely believe the excuses they come up with, so presenting them in court should be considered a malicious act against those seeking justice. You're hired to provide them with a fair trial - that's it, not to lie in court and cheat the system to award guilty people with a light sentence, or to rob the victims of the proper justice they deserve.
Yes that's what I was thinking how can someone with so much brains actually believe the shit she's spouting out of her mouth surely the jury and judge seen right through that crap and for her well if I was the judge I would of taken her licence off her what is this world coming too wow
That's so true.
Money if very popular with these people
Yep disgusting, SO DON'T blame the killer blame the mother. Smh
You DO understand that a lawyer you are supposed to find ANY reason or loophole to break or lessen the charge. Even if they have to resort to statistics or cliche's of even the most miniscuel reasoning. Take a look at Amber Herds lawyer and see for yourself that they grasp at ANY straw they can find to win the case.
That first guy isn't yelling and gesturing at Lane, and saying Lane took the lives of 17 people. He's gesturing and yelling at Nikolas Cruz, who killed 17 people at Parkland's Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. That's why you aren't showing them in the same video, at the same time. How come you publicly lied about this, in your video?
Lmao did that hurt your feelings? 😂
@@dubsackbenny6779 - Well, he's not lying. The content creator does what he can to shamelessly get views. Look at the very misleading thumbnail.
24:06 If someone in my family committed a school shooting, that "unconditional love" gets tossed out the window.
Then by definition, your love is not unconditional. That’s something sort of how that word works. If you have any conditions, it’s not unconditional.
Why are these creatures allowed to have a lawyer? Its fkn obvious that you have commited crime, if its mental health well tough luck, you are going down.
As someone who was bullied growing up, I totally understand many of these, especially because I contemplated the idea on doing something similar to all those who bullied me back then, but to this day I do not know what stopped me and deterred me from doing it. Maybe the voice of intuition or something else? I don’t know, but in the end I scrapped the idea. I fully comprehend being on the border of doing such event. To my defense, I was meant to do it only to those who bullied me, no other innocent or unrelated people would not be affected in any way.
I know these situations are divisive to me given the bottom rock I hit decades ago, but I still can't condone these actions. Even after all these years, I am not sure if I did the right thing or not by abandoning the idea, the amount of things I had to endure and the impact on my mental health back then was staggering, to say the least. And I thought back then that I definitely needed to pay them back for all that suffering somehow.
Had the same idea when I was younger..but thinking about it now, not worth it. Shit people will always exist anyways. Peace bro
@@JimAndersson-sv8vk Peace, bro. Even after all these years, I still struggle to identify what made me drop the idea. I literally had everything ready the night before the day I decided to do it, but suddenly... I just decided not to move forward with that plan.
As you said: 'Shit people will always exist,' but you don't think that in the heat of the moment, and that is especially dangerous for those who really go through with the plan and innocent people get involved. I have zero sympathy for bullies; my concern goes more towards people who had nothing to do with the kid or teenager getting bullied.
@@ChrisPTY507 Yes exactly..and being in control of your anger makes you more powerful. Massive success is the best revenge on bullies
@@JimAndersson-sv8vk Agreed. Success is the best revenge! Thank you for your insight.
They just never understood the wonderful gamer you were.
Now this is the definition that you should 'never bully the quiet kid' or else it end up school shooting everywhere
🤣
Is that supposed to be an excuse? All these happens as a result of bad parenting
That first guy looked like Sid Phillips from Toy Story.
The lawyers who have the audacity to defend such criminals are more of a criminal than these criminals
Lol, hope u don't get a defendant
They have to! It’s a right by law in any civilised country. It’s not always about if they want to.
That first kid, I don't know whether to hate him infinitely, or just to embrace him, because he redefines messed up on a whole new level beyond belief. To call him a absolute psychopath, monster, and fanatical terrorist would be an understatement, but perhaps he was so broken to the maximum level, that it doesn't matter to him anymore laughing or not, there is no soul there.
Could be true, goes to show you how hate and sadness and anger takes over, some people just learn to control the emotions. But I agree, i don’t know about it.
How can someone defend these monsters
Money...........#moneyrootofevil
They do it for the money and because in America it is law that people who are arrested are provided a lawyer during their trial, even if the suspect will be guilty no matter what.
Because of 💵 and 💰.
They aren’t doing it out of their morals, it’s the money. Doubt they actually believe what they are saying.
Money and the constitution (6th amendment)
Just a heads up to everyone.
These monsters are created a lot of times because of.....
kids in school bullying them. So, teach your kids to respect everyone. The best way is to not gossip or judge others on front of your children because kids are the world's biggest copycats. And go to teacher meetings and ask if your kid has conflicts.
Well, i got bullied too... But still no fucking excuse to do this kind of shit...
@@DeMaster1985 not everyone handles being bullied the same way obviously.
@@DeMaster1985not everyone has the same mentality bro
Grow up
Random victim blamey BS. I got bullied so bad I dropped out at 14. Never once wanted to kill another kid. Just myself (over that now)
How did they even get away with making an 11ft ladder in the first place? I can't imagine something like that is easy to hide, and it can't be made immediately.
My son was murdered, but if my son EVER killed someone purposely... he'd forever be my son, and I'd stand by his side, BUT by God, he'd have to pay for his actions...with no excuses from me. I don't understand these families taking up for and condoning their kids' actions, like the one mother said...He didnt have guns. It was my gun. Well, he picked it up and used it, Mom, landing him where he belongs. In prison..
I'm so sorry to all the parents and families.
I'm so so sorry for your lose. Big hugs. May god bless you and your family.
Well, as you noticed, it was a certain demographic of people who try to downplay this type of $4!t.
Well, as you noticed, it was a certain demographic of people who try to downplay this type of $4!t.
Well, as you noticed, it was a certain demographic of people who try to downplay this type of $4!t.
They always do.
I can’t even imagine what those parents felt while in those courtrooms, as well as those kids who survived… if I was a parent of a deceased child, I don’t think there are any amount of officers who could keep me from reaching the killer in the courtroom and ending him myself.
Funfact: It's legal in Germany to escape the prision and you can only be charged for the vandalism you have done while escaping. 0.0
doesnt matter we re also a sick country
THE FACT THAT LADY WAS BLAMING THE PARENTS DRINKING FOR HIM TURING OUT THAT WAY? ARE YOU KIDDING?
The parents in that situation should also take a lot of the responsibility because it is common knowledge that doing those things result in mental issues for the child, however I do believe that in some cases there is no cure to their illness and it would be safer for people if they were disposed of… not in jail, but you know. GONE.
It’s a huge factor, though yes doesn’t fully excuse it a single bit
She has a point but its still not an excuse
Hearing the gunfire at the movie theater over this video...gave me immediate goosebumps & I can't begin to imagine the fear in that theater that night. You're simply watching a movie and all hell breaks loose. RIP to all those lost souls.
I’m Canadian and I realize we don’t hear everything on the news from the US but I haven’t even heard 3/4 of these horrible ‘events’ (my knowledge and lack of a better known word to call it right now)! The one kid, Andy, he spoke very maturely and was very articulate with his choice of words! I will in no way ever understand why people, children, do this! I was burned 3-4 degree burns on 60% of my body in grade 3 in 1980 and when I returned to school after a long healing time, I was bullied and beat up since grade 4 right til grade 10! Not one single time in my head did I ever think of doing any of this shit! I didn’t even think or dream of ever hurting any person back for what they did! Not one single time did I even wish anyone dead for what they did! Grade 10 I kinda bloomed and became fun and outgoing and joining school things and going to events and such! I think every single day of what people did to me but I would never ever wish any type of evil or harm on anyone! I guess I’m saying my story because what these people did are not ‘mistakes’ they’re not ‘because mom drank and did drugs when I was in her belly’! I don’t believe in mental health and mental diseases used as defences! I say this because they planned it, they planned what they’ll say even, they made maps ect of the places and they killed themself or tried to so that to me makes it evident that each of these POS knew damn well what they did and what they were doing was wrong! If you know it’s wrong and if you plan you ‘after’ you know the difference between right and wrong so no it’s not mental health and no it’s not mental disease! This blows my mind how anyone could ever try to hurt any other person! This is JMO and I’m pretty sure many will agree with me! Much love and much respect and my heart goes out to every parent, every friend and every relative of someone that was killed by any one of these people who’ve done such evil! 🙏
The human brain is very complex. Under the right circumstances, there are many factors that can lead to a human killing another. I understand your shock and anger at the violence you've seen in these videos. It's natural to feel overwhelmed and seek answers to understand why such tragedies occur. I appreciate you sharing your own story of resilience and choosing compassion despite experiencing pain yourself.
While your experience is admirable, it's important to remember that everyone processes trauma and hardship differently. Not everyone has the same resources or support systems to navigate difficult situations.
The causes of violence are complex and multifaceted. While planning the crimes and awareness suggest knowledge of right and wrong, it doesn't negate the potential role of mental health issues. These can influence behavior in various ways, including distorted perceptions, impulsivity, or impaired judgment.
Instead of seeking singular explanations, it's important to consider the broader context. Socioeconomic factors, social and cultural norms, exposure to violence, and mental health all play a role.
I understand your frustration with using mental illness as a "defense," but it's not about excusing violence. It's about understanding the contributing factors and seeking comprehensive solutions. But at the end of the day, those killers must be imprisoned for life or get the death sentence.
@@anasbtr Did ChatGPT write this? The writing style seems like it.
@@sarthakmohanty997holy fuck it really does lmfao
@@anasbtrthank you for your words! I truly helped me think of things in a different way! I appreciate and respect the words you chose and your ‘tone’ when speaking to me! Your comment has made me think of so many things in so many different ways! The brain is the most mysterious, complex and yet intriguing organ and it controls thought, memory, emotion, touch, motor skills, vision, breathing, temperature, hunger and every process that regulates our body! I wish I was young again because if I ever had the chance to do a do-over I’d become someone who studies the brain’s neuroanatomy and neuroscience! After reading your comment and truly ‘listening’, so to speak, to you, it gives me even greater interest! Thank you! 🙏
@@sarthakmohanty997what is ‘CHATGPT’?
TJ’s face changed rapidly when he was called cowardly
The Fact that these people show no remorse is pure evil
*calls Venom
@@MegaToonzNetwork what
Just to make this clear before saying anything else this doesn't excuse any of the acts especially not those who weren't bullied.
But what would you do if you were bullied for years by everyone every attempt to get help was denied or let off having no way of dealing with it. Would you feel remorse after killing those who made you suffer? I don't say that it's right to feel no remorse but would you feel any remorse?
Welcome to Satan and his demons.
@@venomplays1349I mean what else are they gonna do ? Showing any remorse won’t reduce their sentence by a significant amount (if any), so eh, why show it at all
Attempted murder and killing 10 or 20 people IS COMPLETE DIFFERENT.
So of course you not gonna get the same sentence
bros pulling battle royale numbers
@@Erik-1idkLets fucking gooo good one
Sky Bouche the white kid in ocala, FL still got a 30 year sentence & didn’t kill anyone. He wounded a kid with a shotgun.
Bullying has gone on forever, since I was younger, but it’s not until recently that kids think taking a gun to school is the right way to handle things. Where the heck did this come from?
Its not just recently. I remember this going on when I was a teen in the 90's. The 90's werent exactly yesterday.
that’s because guns have easier to access than ever before
Where did it come from? From the history of mankind it is clear that it is much easier to control people when people are in fear.
@@ShockResistorIt happened in the UK back in 1985. We got rid of the guns and it never happened again. Simples 👍🏻
They are too lazy to learn physical self-defense. And they are very weak as people, so they have to use a firearm
They don't last very long in prison. Once the inmates find out there, they don't last very long
I feel bad for the people who have to be their lawyers. They probably hate it.
Money is money. All lawyers go to hell as they say
@@Cumlet Hell isn't real anyway lol
Doing your responsibility will not lead you to hell you clown
Regardless of whoever it is ,as per lawyer’s profession ethics
You must defend you client whatsoever he/she is
It’s literally their job
Your emotions don’t work in real world courts you fool
No, I doubt that any lawyer has a problem with that. They shouldn't. Defending someone like that is not about being on their side. It means that you make sure that they get a fair sentence, that's the duty of a lawyer.
While it's obvious in the cases shown here (it's a rather dramatic RUclips video after all) justice is a complicated thing and mistakes happen. A lot of people sitting in jail being innocent and it's often enough their lawyers who didn't do their job.
I still cannot believe the victims families held their composure....
The first dude looks like fricking Sid from Toy Story 💀💀💀💀
I feel for the ones that were bullied. Took it too far and were too weak.
When your home life sucks, peers attack you from all angles, and you’re punished if you stick up for yourself... It’s not fair, but be stronger than this
Bullies shouldn't bully. End of story, in my opinion. Eventually people snap. I've got no sympathy for bullies-- and I've never been bullied myself.m. You can't bully someone and expect nothing to happen. Especially in the real world, outside of high school. It's not being "weak".
@@katieghoul0092 it is weak and very much persists after highschool. You can’t be mad at Uncle Sam for taking half your money, can’t be mad when the woman you married uses state legislature to take your kids, when a marginalized group takes a spotlight to you for cancel culture, police mad your making more money than them or just because they can and forgot their gun wasn’t a taser, your boss makes sure you kiss ass even though you already earned the promotion through hard work and merit.
Should people always strive to be the best versions of themselves? Yes. But unfortunately punching down has zero to little repercussions and truthfully gets you a bit more ahead than being the “bigger person”
@@brantmorse1900 None of those examples are bullying. My original comment was in regards to bullying.
@@katieghoul0092 how not?
@@brantmorse1900You think paying taxes is a form of bullying?
Timothy only got 12 years? that's way too light of a sentence for being a psycho.
a psycho? he didnt come to the school with intent to shoot indiscriminately. he killed one person, the person who was beating him. he shouldnt have escalated to pulling a gun but in a country where u have such easy access it isnt insane to do as an act of self defence. 12 years is more than reasonable. calling him a 'school shooter' at all is just wrong. he shot someone in a school, he didnt shoot it up
You know exactly why he only got 12 years.
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@@GeeSedan Yup.
Disgusting double standard, right?
White kids shoot schools and laugh in court and look blankly into the void. Black kid does it and cries his ass off in regret, faking or not it's more human than any of the others..@@notavailable4596