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Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 - Judge Mathas
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Honestly, this was the best legacy of Kain game for me. The levels were amazing and so unreal. It was nice to navigate through the cities with humans, and the inclusion of the hylden was fantastic.
Same here. I was 13y old, and I spent hours completing the game, I felt tired I made an hour break, then continued. Loved the game, JudgeMathas may had a point on the combos, yeah aside Batman Arham series the combos were not much, but back then in the 2000s, it was a super game. Altough I would play it anytime. :)
I loud slap this man on the face for his blasphemous words in this video. I wish there was two dislike buttons, really.
Doesn't matter what ppl say. This is canon.
I owned Blood omen 2 on PC and I picked it up randomly and I loved the game it was dark and the story was fine and the boss fights were great. IDC what you say but this game was amazing and I'd come back to this game anytime in 2018
Pretty much.
Does Blood Omen 2 on steam have controller support? Like an Xbox one controller?
I came back to it and holy shit. what a dumpster fire. I used to love the game as a kid, but this has aged POORLY.
@@weshill3051 It should, as it gave me the option to use a controller. I wouldn't recommend the steam version though, as it's badly ported and needs to be made playable via third party software.
I dunno man. I kinda liked this one. It's Legacy of Kain as a Penny Dreadful, whereas the rest were Gothic Romance
Spoilers (for ending of Soul Reaver 2):
At the end of SR2, The Reaver show itself to have a will of its own and tries to consume Raziel. The Reaver is destinied to eat Raziel. Kain shows up and talks about flipping a coin a thousand times and no matter which side it lands on it's always bad... but what if you could make it land on its edge? He pulls the Reaver out of Raziel... thus altering The fate of the Reaver (and Raziel).. and yet again changing the timeline. He then gains the memories of this new timeline and proclaims: "My God! The Hylden! We walked right into their trap!"
Blood Omen 2 is that memory.
Thank you! I’m tired of people saying this game doesn’t make sense story wise.
I mean Amy tried her hardest to make sense of Blood Omen 2 but still it leaves some holes, like how the Hylden Lord was sure he killed Young Kain when he saw Raziel kill the older Kain
Jake Lancaster Belmont because our Kain, even though he gained new memories from BO2, is still a time anomaly: unlike William, killing young Kain would just kill young Kain. Our Kain, the SR1 Kain, would still be around as he is from another timeline.
Bloodfang that's not how it works, there's only one timeline that can only be changed with paradoxes, killing Young Kain would cause a fatal paradox and would definitely kill the older Kain.
The Hylden Lord acknowledges that Kain was murdered by Raziel when he calls them the Scion of Balance, he would have known killing him in Blood Omen 2 would have been fruitless because for him, Kain dies when he's older.
You could make the case he was trying to make a paradox with the reaver and that would be a good plot point but I don't think the Blood Omen 2 team was that clever
Kain didn’t really die though. He came back after his heart was ripped out. The hylden lord would have eventually known that.
I never forgot the fog fatalities...
When the heart still beats in your hand...
Legacy of Kain Defiance actually ties into the events of Blood Omen 2. Namely with Janos Audron.
I personally feel this is one of the best games in the series.
The game was fun, but the story was totally out of place.
Imagine a whole new remastered version of this game. Broo I would die
My intake for the dialogue of this game: how many lines you usually quote from each game?
The answer for BO2 is... 0... And that's a pity
That's because IT IS the best game in the series, best combat, best boss fights, best fucking camera mind you, the story is great I don't see what the fuck people find wrong with it, perhaps its just their incapability of appreciating a great game that blinds them.
@@aloptuleamagnificanton4983 I don't know which version you've played, but after 5 and half hours I deleted this shit. Controls are absolute cancer, animations are stiff making it some attack are unavoidable, non responsive controls..
Combat is repetitive and gets old really fast.
Atsmosphere is great, love the ambient music, Kain is awesome as always and some boss fights are unique.
I had a gamebreaking bug where in the Sarafan's keep I need to MC dude so he can open door for me, but when I MC him, he just repeats the "help me" line and I can't move him. That's what made me mad and I just said fuck this shit.
I can't believe this one is the best in the whole franchise, SR is miles better!
"It gets brushed over with, eh it's broken time lines and whatever - shit gets weird"....So basically Marvel comics.
The worlds in the two Blood Omen games are far more alive than in the rest of the series. In the dead Nosgoth in the first Soul Reaver it makes sense that every living thing is hostile but in SR2 and even more so Defiance the world can feel a bit empty, I guess no one is gonna stop for a chat based on how Kain and Raziel look.
BO2 gets a lot wrong, but I love how much detail they put into Meridian and the NPCs. I've spent hours in this game just eavesdropping.
This game was Awesome!! I had it for original Xbox and the gameplay was so captivating to me and still is now that I’ve replayed it as an adult. I love the ambiance. It’s so dark and mysterious! Kain FTW!
Yep this is the best game in the series. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. It seems he has some hidden hatred towards this game. It makes literally no sense what this guys is saying the whole video.
I love this game. Played it about 7 times...
This was one of the best game i played and also a game i still remember perfectly. Give it a bit of credit please.
This game has a special place in my heart lol. This was the first game I ever beat all the way thru. I was in like elementary school playing it when I got home from church n shit 😂😂 I want this game to get remastered or something.
Remake!!! Mostly faithful that is. Like definitely keep the story but just fix up the mechanics and overall gameplay a bit. Also the semi tank controls gotta go and get a regular camera. I also want Blood Omen 1 to be remade, kinda like how resident evil 2 was. Imagine transforming into a werewolf in full remade 3d or bats and travel around an open world.
BEST GAME IN SERIES
Blood Omen 2 is an alternate timeline that was roughly generated by the twist at the end of Soul Reaver 2. BO2 was silly but I loved it
It's not an alternative timeline, they don't exist on the Legacy of Kain. The events of Defiance lead directly to Blood Omen 2
Blood Omen 2 was the game that introduced me to the Legacy of Kain series. Holds a special place in my heart! 😊
Well to be fair all of blood omen 2 only takes place in one southern city in nosgoth called meridian while all the other games you travel almost everywhere in nosgoth
This game was truly my first introduction to the Legacy of Kain games. I loved it when I was a kid, although it was one of the only games I had on the Gamecube, so I played it a lot. When I tried Defiance on the Xbox, I fell in love with the story telling style, but never completed it, I got stuck on a level and never came back, (it didn't help the Xbox wasn't mine, and I didn't have access to it often.) But my love for the narration in the games sparked my interest in writing, and many years later, I'm still writing my own stories. Legacy of Kain holds a special place in my heart, even if I never really played them. (One of my biggest regrets that I will hopefully, rectify soon enough.)
Also, didn't they put Vorador in this game, despite the fact that he VERY CLEARLY DIED towards the end of the first Blood Omen?
jesse baruffi While unexplained it's reasoned Vorador made a different choice in the timeline.
"Ressurection". Off-scene ressurection.
On the other hand, Elder Kain "can't die at all" from "normal" means (which I find somewhat questionable).
Technically, Amy Hennig did work "Blood Omen 2"s story into the overarching lore of the series with "Defiance". The timeline of "BO2" was created by Kain's prevention of Raziel's absorption by the Reaver at the end of the game. Kain's revelation in the epilogue is him remembering the events of "BO2" - which were just incorporated into his background. That was the fourth timeline present within the Series. I won't spoil the events of "Defiance" but "BO2"s narrative has a close connection to the final act "Defiance".
Much in the same way as Dark Souls 3 backpeddled to try and make the most out of DS 2's storyline.
1) "Janos Audron must stay dead" - Defiance, Elder Kain.
2) Knowing that you will "save him" from device - BO2, Young Kain.
Nice.
It is either a plothole or non-realized plotline.
Nice, Blood Omen 2! I was waiting for this one. My first LoK game
This video was posted on 4/20 nice 😎
This comment thread has restored my faith in humanity lol I love this game!! It was the best in the series and fit perfectly in to the story. The Hylden were honestly a crucial addition to the story I'd like to think it was a happy little accident
How does it fit in the story when it doesn’t even acknowledge most of it and just throws the first one’s story down the drain? X)
Yep literally the best game in the series. I have no idea what this dude is talking about. This game is a masterpiece.
This is my first legacy of kain game, playing it on the original xbox. Had to check the series out after seeing defiance at a game store and thinking the name and look of it were pretty cool so I looked up the games and found out they have a dedicated fan base of people that really like them so I decided to try them. I’m probably a quarter of the way through and I have to say the combat with it’s parrying system is pretty challenging and satisfying especially for such an old game. I also haven’t gotten tired of the blood sucking animation yet since it looks so damn cool, doesn’t take too much time and is necessary to fill your health. Now I understand that the first legacy of kain game probably had the best story and narrative and that is what makes the games and that is why I wanted to try them in the first place but I don’t have a ps1 or dreamcast so I have to start with blood omen 2, then soul reaver 2 and then defiance. I watched like a whole synopsis video of 1’s story and it was great and wish I could play it but i’ll see where blood omen 2 goes, it’s obviously much more shallow than the first game’s and soul reaver 1 but I love kain’s design and voice actor, as well as the combat so hopefully it is worth finishing as well as soul reaver 2 and defiance although I hear a lot of hate about defiance. Apparently it is a poor man’s dmc lol. I don’t care i’ll play them for myself and see if I like them. I love the whole vampire ruled fantasy world and kain’s character, all really cool stuff to me. Oh and you are right about the puzzles they are all the same and totally lame, just pulling levers or pushing a box forward like 4 feet lol.
Nevermind I think you’re right, this game kind of sucks lol
Thisis the game I started the legacy of kain series. Got hooked & playedthe rest after
Dude, sick PC game collection. Lords of Magic and Dungeon Keeper 2 bring back such memories.
Psi Ops: The Mindgate Conspiracy. One of my favorite games for the original xbox. Such a cool concept. Sadly it didnt get much attention and no one I know remembers this game. All I remember is an xplay review and the awesome multiplayer arena.
I remember that one, Liked it alot.
This is my favorite legacy of kain game by far and one of my all time favorite games of my childhood
I was so nostalgic for this game six months ago... does not hold up.
I remember a funny glitch related to gaining xp with drinking blood. By the time I reached the hylden world I drainned pretty much all enemies that could be drained in the game. Kain's life bar got maxed out, so with the next blood feast that was supposed to level Kain up , it actually zeroed his life bar. Now that was a suprise no one would expect.
blood omen 2 is a sort of guilty pleasure for me, on one hand i agree with the criticism but on the other hand kain is such a blast to listen to as he one liner his way through the game.Its like the prequel palpatine effect.
You clearly didn't liked it. This game shares the Best thing of legacy of kain series. The dialogue, it is uncanny. I loved the style of this game better than the other entries as well.
Well the context is that it shows what happened with the paradox at the end of Soul Reaver 2. It's only different because the Hylden have taken over and it shows off what the Hylden are like and fleshes them out in a way that I thought was very welcome.
But yeah it did have a lot of flaws to it as well. But I feel like the things that make the game out of place in theme also make perfect sense in the context of the story.
The very best thing about the game is when a power up is a reference to the original game. The mist and the possession being the two I can think of. (Maybe the jump power replaced the jump length of the werewolf form.) Those were really cool, and involved some of my favorite puzzles in the game.
I actually like this game because it gives a sort of final resolution to the series. From what I can tell, this entire story was created by Defiance, with the Pillars being destroyed, the Hylden lord escaping, and a new enemy for young Kain to fight. It all makes sense to me, as Old Kain fills his role as the Scion of Balance by using the Reaver that has absorbed Raziel and all of the other Balance Guardians, which allows him to finally see the Elder God and remove the corruption. And Young Kain fights the now released Hylden (which were released quickly after the events of Blood Omen 1, which I qualify with the fact that Kain reflects on his younger self making the decision to abandon his role as Balance guardian at the end of BO1 towards the end of Defiance when he enters Raziel's timeline), finally eliminating them, as they were trapped by the Pillars before. The Hylden Lord escaping with Janos' body is what created this situation, and this game concludes that.
This game was BOSS, I still have it, I still play it, and don't sleep on Shadow Man 2(ps2) and S.T.A.L.K.E.R(PC)
I loved this game! I wish they made more 😭
I bought this for Xbox back in 2002. It was the first LoK game I played. I still look back and think how rich the game was. The combat was repetitive but it was still satisfying. It is unlike any other game. It was very dark. There was no consequence if you slaughter civilians as they scream in horror.
Simon Templeman's performance was basically the only thing that kept me going through Blood Omen 2. The writing was so weak compared to the other games but I respected that he still gave those lines a decent shot.
It's been a while since I played so my memories are a foggy but I remember being pretty disappointed by the big Hylden reveal. If they had taken the time to develop any memorable Hylden characters with similar care that was taken in the previous games with earlier characters I might have been convinced. It's really unfortunate since the Hylden are supposed to be so important and yet they're not really explored or developed much at all.
This game was badass your trippen.....
To be honestly I liked BO 2 the best
The game has obvious issues, but I still love it and played it nearly 10 times now!
This was my favorite in the series. Fuck all you critics. I love the entire series too.
I loved this game
I can see most of the comments here are nostalgia based.
I've just today played this for the first time ever (being a SR fan, I wanted to try this) and I 100% agree with the video. Even gonna be more harsh, controls and animations are absolute cancer. My main killer why I didn't finish this.
Which sucks, I'm really dissapointed, I was expecting it to be on par with SR.
The game introduces the Hylden, which is the most important part of the story, as well as the cliffhanger at the end of Soul Reaver 2, it feels like so many people hate this game because it's popular to, without actually playing it
This just makes me wanna start up Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines...
9:58 Pinocchio voice
Blood omen 2 is my favorite one lmao I actually started to replay it haha
I disagree that the voice acting isn’t good in this. Vorador and Janos Audron’s voice actors perform about as good as before. I’d say Uma’s is good as well. The dialogue is weaker, though. I also disagree that what happens isn’t important. In many ways, the ending to this game is the ending to the series. Or at least the closest it’s come to one. You kill the Hylden lord who was a key figure in Defiance that operated behind the scenes. Defiance and this game are set in the fourth and final timeline, and the events of Defiance are actually set before this.
This is the one I grew up with but god some boss fights kicked my ass as a child especially the one when killed gives you the beserk ability
Idc about the story or timeline of this series…I care about gameplay, which this one’s is objectively the best.
Did you beat the game though?
BO2 is my favorite game in the series with Defiance below it.
You said it should have been an original I.P. well alot of the developers in Blood Omen 2 where working on Sega Dreamcast version of Chakan, a follow up to Chakan: The Forever Man on the Sega Genesis. Unfortunately it was cancelled due to the failure and short life span of the Dreamcast, if you look at the history of Chakan on the Dreamcast and its concept art, you will it looks very similar to Blood Omen 2, it would have been better if they would have done that instead of shoe-horning a Legacy of Kain game in to it.
BO2 is guilty of absolutely everything, but I still kind of love it. 😂 The story's a mess, the character designs are downright insulting, but the world and level design is fantastic, even though it maybe belongs in a different game. It's *exactly* what I would expect of Kain's edgy teenage phase.
The best Legacy of Kain game period. Absolutely amazing adventure. Man this review is about some hatred that you have towards this game and it's not about the game at all. I will have to dislike this video. Your 50 different baby voices confirms this. It seems this is only about critique and no constructive though or any appreciation for the beautiful world and amazing details. Not to mention the epic story, voice acting and how nit it all reviews it self. I am playing this in 2023 in 4K and it's breath taking. The longer I listen to your narrative in this video the more I want to slap you on the face man.
You might like the Legscy of Kain retrospective by YourFavoriteSon. He goes over every game and their history and while he points out flaws in this game he still gives it all the praise it deserves as well. Great video
This game reviewed bad but I remember loving it
Loved your review! Why aren't you uploading anymore?
BO2 and BO1 are my favorite in the LoK saga.Such good games.Never was a huge fan of the Soul Reaver games.
From Alternative Ending comment made by some fan
"They surely wanted to make simple game so they "cut in design" as much stuff as possible to make the game simple..."
Also, the camera in Defiance will get you screaming. Pin the comment if it is one hell of a control... *HELL*
If you played Blood Omen 2 first it's probably your favorite....it was my first.
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System. I remember liking it, but never wanting to replay it for some reason.
I see war wind and war wind 2 on your shelf :o Review pls!
I loved this game man
THANK YOU!!! I just found you Judge and binged your LOK videos and i wa slike oh man hope i dont wsit long for BO2, and i see this notification!
I liked this game. I thought it was fun. Just sayin.
I remember a game on pc like this were you could beat up a chicken on a rope
Another cautionary tale about _not_ putting your B-Team on a popular series sequel (Silent Hill, Dark Souls.. looking at you!)
In answer to your question Mathas, *Battle Arena Toshinden.* I bought every game in the series and can't remember a thing about it.
The fun things is, this was my first Legacy of Kain game and I quite enjoyed it :D , but defiance was the best XD and I played soul reavers only after defiance
I thought the game was really good. Back in the day I didn't get Bored or tired of anything? I never beat the game sadly my PS2 crapped out. I'm pretty sure I was close to the end. But hey, that's what RUclips is for you can just look at the ending of the game. LOL
The game I've played but don't remember jack about is Gauntlet Legends. Just a good beat early beat em up
I agree with you regarding the "puzzles"... I never called them puzzles myself.
I mean... One of the most intelligent saga I had play now thinks I'm stupid?
Great intro!
The problem with Blood Omen 2 other than it was developed by another team is the fact is a clunky mash of two canceled games (Chakan and Sirens), that's why is so far apart from the other games.
I like blood omen 2 at the same time I hated it, The game wasn't polished enough needed more work, the movement was very stiff and the combat terrible, the art work gross! but the there were other parts I liked
I replayed Dragon Age II during easter. Before I replayed it I didn't remember anything except Hawke.
Is that game playable now ? When I tried quest items would not spawn and you would have to reload and older save or be stuck forever.
it was the best game I played ever
Mathis forgot to play Nosgoth. 😭
Great video!
I've played a lot of forgettable games (good ol' C=64 times) but my most memorable one (is that even a thing?) is definitely Silver. A friend of mine lent it to me saying that it was supposedly a "Final Fantasy killer". FF being one of my favorite series of all time, I was quite eager to give Silver a go. Well, a killer game it wasn't. I played through it in one sitting and pretty much forgot everything about it by the end of the day.
this game is in my top 10. willing to go to hell for it.
Haha, those tutorials "Hold Autoface to lock on" .... excuse me, where's the Autoface button?? - "Hold Block to Block" ... well no shit, sherlock
Yeah well what do you expect when it’s coming from a vampire? Do you want her to say hold “B” or hold “Right Trigger” ? That doesn’t sound very vampirish to me.. that would be silly. They put the buttons on the screen to show you what to press after she says it so it’s not like they don’t show you what to press.
@@stevenvargas4800 yeah, if it's a tutorial that says "hold... To..." they might as well, cause it's still silly in terms of immersion
I loved this game when it came out. Going back it's such a clunky game. Still, lack of vampire games that are good and all that
hehe, "Marathon"...more like travel across the world for 120 days or something
I played this one game once but forgot what it was.
Renee Auber??? (I can't remember how to spell his last name) Odo from Deep Space Nine is pretty good in the voice acting.
I only ever played this game in the blood omen/soul reaver, and that may paint my opinion but I loved this game, and nearly disagree with everything that mathas says besides the blood animations. I loved the story the combat and looking at it from the time it came out I think it was fantastic.
It had some first person parts.
This is how I found Kain so I'm sorry but this is my only favorite. I don't like sould reaver much. So I feel your kinda wrong on this one. This is the best game of all time.
I don't even remember the name of it but the newest Harvest Moon It's on PC and it's awful
Castlevania lords of shadow 2 kinda reminds me of this game. Lol
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't this the first 3D game in the series? Makes sense why they'd play it safe and story and plot would be unoriginal
Nope, it's the third 3D game in the series and its story is laughably simple, whereas all other games have a story that can be rightfully called shakespearian. But it was also made by another developer and started as a sequel to the Genesis game Chakan: The Forever Man.
Are you related to Rick Moranis?
buoyed (boyed) from buoyant.
From Industrial Quarter on, (Canyons, Eternal Prison, and the Device)levels all have some interesting puzzles (involving explosions and time manipulation) that combine the powers you end up receiving.
I also quite dug some of the NPC conversations, if you actually snuck around to eavesdrop. They do some interesting world-building there, but there`s like 0 focus on that.
It has a few interesting ideas, and having replayed it last year, the Device is some really Gigeresque stuff; but lack of a story really hurts it. It`s still the weakest in the series, but ionno. I`m really not a fan of Soul Reaver 2`s corridor design after SR21 and that combat was.... ugh. So BO2 always gains some points by gameplay comparison from me. SR2 has the spectacular STORY though, which is what LoK is really all about, so that always wins out.
It`s always hard talking about LoK`s gameplay, because every single game does something different. Darksiders was the dark Gothic action/adventure series that really filled that niche when LoK went away, and there hasn't really been anything like it since.
What game I played that I find forgettable? I don't know, I forgot.
I found Skyrim forgettable. The game was so bland and casual compared to Morrowind which was simply an excellent Roleplaying Game. I cant even remember the Skyrim story, nor can I remember anything interesting. Sure, being dragonborn was 'cool', but The game was so flat and boring, so generic that it kinda hurt to play. That's pretty much all I can remember of it, whereas with Morrowind I could go on for hours and hours.
Dark Cloud 2. I remember the first game dearly. I still count it among my favorite games. All I remember of 2 though is something about fighting on top of a train and disappointment. I'm not even sure I finished it...