I love how she was introduced as a background character, and not like a foreshadow nor was She introduced right as the arc finished. You slowly learn more about her and you wonder who She is. Gives a bit of realism to the world as not all threats appear after one disappears
I like that they did that, but I also like the idea of Suyin lending her to Team Avatar as a guide around Zaofu, making her heel turn a sting a bit more.
i will say when i saw her introduce herself to korras dad in book 3 I definitely noticed that she had that look of significance. I didn't predict "she is gonna be the big bad of season 4" if I said that i'd be lying if i said i did. but i knew as soon as it zoomed in on her face she would have some significance in book 4 i love your comment though because you are right she very much started as a nobody and became super important like historic figures
She was the only avatar villain that wasn’t going in blind with power alone. She was analytical, a strategic mastermind, and knew of ways to break the enemy. She is in all reality a true villain.
@Toph Beifong Azula was more like a sociopath then anything but she still had the "raw power" mainly and rarely ever showed off her logistical skills. The only moment she did was in all honesty during the Fall of Ba Sing Se which in reality wasn't all that special cause the Dai Li were pretty much only interested in a person with power.
Zaheer, Amon, Unalaq, literally none of the villains go in with power alone except for Ozai and some randoms. All the major villains plan their attacks.
Korra enemies Amon, Unalaaq, Zaheer, and Kuvira where all different benders. Though Amon was a waterbender it was his Non-bending followers that was causing chaos. The Legend of Korra showed there where bad people from all nations
She shows us a LOT more than that. She is what every one of the villains feared: She is a bending tyrant, she destroys the sacred spiritual aspects of the world, she is a fascist who enslaved a nation and allows for no freedom… And beyond that she teaches us about how fascist dictatorships work: The rhetoric and propaganda used, the militarism “might is right “mentality, obsession with “law and order” as an excuse to strip all freedoms and liberties from people, economic control to the point that a few wealthy industrialists have a whole nation working as slaves for their benefit and the only way out of slavery is to join the military cause, the systemic persecution of ethnic minorities, (the guy from the prison camp mentioned the persecution in case you dont remember) and the infinite expansionism that would have led to her needing to conquer the world, crush the nations who would try to intervene, to maintain the empire. And the show even made her giant cannon tank thingee look identical to the Nazi’s model down to the inch. Fascism seems understandable and like “the only option” for some people when a country is in times of chaos and turmoil, but it is NEVER the answer, and we must never listen to or be brainwashed by the Kuvira’s of the world, because they’ll just make things 1000 times worse.
I honestly think everything messed up when they put mechas in the show. That spoiled completely the beautiful martial arts of the previous seasons, and a mecha bigger than the tallest buildings of Republic City is just absurd. I understand the possible lack of funding because of the early end, but Kuvira's empire was perfect for a strong reference to Third Reich, what a pity they couldn't use it better.
@@eren34558 Um, yea. Both she and Jan Varney have ties to UC San Diego. Jan Varney was a cheerleader. Years later, Zelda Williams was on the hip hop dance team.
If only Nickelodeon hadn't cut the budget. Kuvira's origin episode was exactly what we needed and it would have made her redemption arc feel more earned.
Not gonna lie, I didn't really like her all that much as a villain, but I love her as a character. My opinion is probably different if she hadn't been the final challenge
@@whistleking3407 I honestly think that azula didn't have a redemption because it wouldn't fit with her character.. she is too sociopathic and narcissic.
she killed asami sato's father by squishing him like a mosquito and she also almost killed bataar jr. and she also killed those two metal bender guards in the tower by shooting a beam at them like imagine them melting in that beam...
*I was cast aside by my own parents like I meant nothing to them! How could I just stand by and watch the same thing happen to my nation when it needed someone to guide it? - Kuvira explaining to Korra why she usurped power in the Earth Kingdom*
@@naturalinstinct4950 Eh I think Kuvira is perfectly fit to be a ruler given her accomplishments. Kuvira reunified and stablized the EK a feat that only Chin the Great/Conquer only ever accomplished. Kuvira turned her violent, backwards, primitive, lawless Asian-sized homeland that fell into a warring states period rife with banditry, crumbling outdated infrastructure, mass famine, and etc into a rising modernizing superpower that boasted living standards superior to that of the old EK and were quickly approaching that of the most developed countries in the world if not surpassing them entirely. She even nearly managed to restore her homelands historic Pre-Hundred Year War borders. The only issue regarding her rule was her not paying enough attention to how her subordinates were running the reeducation camps.
I think the Earth Kingdom’s monarchy would be perfect and better than any pathetic Republic if, instead of doing what she did, Kuvira forced Wu to marry her and then inserted earthbending genes into the Royal Family. They could use the same strategies as the Fire Nation used: making the Royal Family the strongest earthbenders in the world with royal-only training. A powerful and unrivaled Royal Family equals a powerful and unrivaled country.
@@emperorpalpatine2721 "But that all change when the Earth Nation attack. Only the avatars master of all 4 elements. Only he could stop the ruthless earthbenders! But when the world needed him most, he vanished."
Zelda Williams and Jan Varney are besties in real life, and even have a connection to the same university. Long before Zelda Williams was on the dance team at UC San Diego, Jan Varney was a cheerleader.
@@devinreis5811 I'm sure they'd wish that their characters would be as such in the show. I can actually visualise Korra and Kuvira hanging out together and having the time of their lives.
This only further reinforces why I’m not a big fan of Suyin. She’s a massive hypocrite and a narcissist. It’s okay for her to condemn Kuvira for her past mistakes, but wants Lin to forgive her of her own. Bataar Jr. also went down the same dark path, but he gets a pass? Lin’s right. She really hasn’t changed at all.
Now that you bring it up, i remember that too! Definitely narcissistic vibes. Though i wish Toph would have revisited that properly aside from the brief scene she had with Lin where they made amends. Lin followed all of the rules but somehow she gets cast aside? Lin had all the right to go NC with both Toph and Suyin. Suyin definitely had a lot of time on her hands that her traits weren't seen by the rest of her kids. Bataar Jr. saw it all for what it was, I don't blame him for taking the path that he did
Suyin was once a lazy selfish criminal, but she definitely changed a lot and became a loving mother and a successful governor. Just look at Zaofu It's practically a paradise. It's a peaceful city and center for art and scientific learning thanks to the leadership of Suyin. Suyin didn't become a crime lord like Yakone or a brutal dictator like Unalaq.
@@alaljarensi6990 a narcissist doesn't necessarily have to be someone who is like Lady Tremaine from Cinderella. Narcissists will vary in their selfishness. However Suyin definitely played Toph and that's up to Toph if she's willing to revisit that with herself. She redeemed herself with creating a city that caters to Metalbenders, but the fact that she's not willing to revisit her own wrong doings towards Lin and how critical she is of others instead of her own self speaks volumes about her character. Then Lin has to accept the apology at face value for the sake of the balance of the world.
Suyin seems to have treated her more like an apprentice rather than a daughter, but still gave her so much. Suyin gave Kuvira an excellent education, a lavish lifestyle and titled her captain of the guard.
I forgot about Asami's father, that was literally said by her, there's no "Oh it wasn't shown/said that he is dead, so he might as well have survived it" nope
Knowing she was going to be the next villain and having her be introduced in the Red Lotus arc was amazing. “You can call me Kuvira”. And they zoom in on her face. They had this all planned out. One of my favorite moments in the show was when Korra goes to Zaheer searching for answers. He then has to face the consequences of his actions when he learns more about Kuvira, and helps the Avatar reach stability, as he does not like world leaders. Personally, I would’ve LOVED to see Kuvira vs Zaheer. Would’ve been absolutely AMAZING.
Zaheer would embarrass kuvira, kuvira was arrogant, trying to fight the avatar directly, she would have been killed in that first battle if it hadn't been for korra's mental weakness. Zaheer nearly succeeded while kuvira never really had a chance
@@6thgraderfriends for what we see, really depends of fve master behind the element. But seems that Zaheer can fly and take air from people is very dangerous to Kuvira fight against him
An interesting suggestion, though I'd like to take things one step further: let's ask for an anthology series that explores the unseen backstories of the antagonists of both ATLA/LOK eras.
I'm so glad that Kuvira was able to redeem herself. She is one of my favorite antagonist in LOK, because her intentions weren't for herself, as I'd like to think and she genuinely wanted to make things better. The last part made me cry❤️😩 I wish Azula also have a chance for a redemption arc😢
Azula wasted an amazing prime in an asylum I would believe. After her brother Prince Zuko and Master Katara defeated her in the Agni Kai, she was left chained o her floor and sobbing. Zuko would have probably put her in a penal colony prison or asylum. Still, she could have escaped and went on to hide in the wilderness for the res of her days.
"It's over. You're gonna call off your army and surrender" *"No u"* and notice the parallels between her childhood and her Republic City attack. Instead of listening to her parents, she ran off. And instead of surrendering to the Avatar, she ran off...it took a chat with Korra in the Spirit World to realize she's not alone in how she feels
The fact you like 3/4 villains of Korra shows just how amazing the villains were in the show, outside of Azula I place all of the LoK villains (outside Unalaq) above the ATLA villains
14:55 "Which of Kuvira's decisions, do you think had the most impact on her journey?" The one that see yell for help to her rightful mother. If she start able to connect her family, she able to defeat the monster within herself.
She could have made the earth kingdom the modern fire nation if no one had stopped her she might have had the best intentions but she made the wrong approach to achieve said motivation
@@mohabalserafe3795 She made the right decisions initially but lost her way every time she thought she could lose control. She was very bad in reflecting herself and her actions, but she was sooooo young when she did all this...
@triange1304 I honestly hate that they decided to redeem her! In the comics they make it seem that somehow nobody got killed by her actions, which is just unbelievable. Look i wouldn't mind a redemtion arc for her, if they didn't show her blasting that border guard building and the ships with her cannon, there is just no way that nobody got killed by that... Edit: Totally forgot about Asami's father, that was literally said by her, there's no "Oh it wasn't shown/said that he is dead, so he might as well have survived it" nope
She originally appeared as an evil dicatator but her turn around from that point as seen in the comics was the most critical point in her journey alongside her ability to truthfully admit to her all the horrendous crimes she had comitted
Hope they have a mini series and she becomes something like what Bucky/Winter soldier/White wolf was. Her home is attacked and she is called back to action when she is happily living peacefully but fights anyways.
Okay, she move up to A tier on my villain list. I have a soft spot for villain recognizing the error in their ways and redeeming themselves. She wasn't as terrifying like amon or as charismatic like zaheer. And we don't talk about unalaq. But now for me she's more than just a mid tier villain. Just a little bit more than that.
She has less abstract philosophy like those guys have. She was a conqueror that wanted to bring the Earth Kingdom under order, and convinced herself that she was the only person capable of doing so regardless of the cost.
she killed asami sato's father by squishing him like a mosquito and she also almost killed bataar jr. and she also killed those two metal bender guards in the tower by shooting a beam at them like imagine them melting in that beam...
Kuvira facing her demons and why she did the things she did would of been an interesting story arc in the animated series. Still one of the best underrated characters in my opinion. 👌👌👌💜✌
Kuvira had the toughest moments in life - from her exile in her family to the exile in Zaofu - she experienced dark points where her evil self originated. But she also had the toughest calls and decisions to make in life, and it led to changes in her life. Her final decision to plea guilty on the final trial and take full charge of her actions, that was the point where she finally redeemed herself, her reputation, her family in Zaofu, to the Beifongs, and to the world.
She is litterally right about everything. Taking command of a disorginazed earth kingdom when nobody wanted to, deposing a weak fool of a king, recapturing land that was stolen after they won the war
I’m still a proponent of her becoming a temporary Team Avatar member in Season 3. Like, Suyin lending her to the team as a liaison. I think that would have made her heel turn in Season 4 a touch more impactful.
I know this is an old comment, but I can’t resist replying because you are so right: it would have been awesome to have her as a temporary member in season 3!
if your looking for more Avatar you should also look at the novels, 2 novels about Kyoshi and 1 about Yangchen so far, they are such awesome books. Rise of Kyoshi is my favorite.
You know, I see a pattern here. Earth Kingdom tries to take over the world, but get stopped by the Avatar. The Fire nation tries the same thing, but get foiled by who? The Avatar. And then the Earth Kingdom make a second attempt to conquer the world, but what happens? The Avatar prevents that from happening a third time. You’d think they would learn by now not to make a power grab of world domination. Because what happens every time? Well, you get the idea.
@@GreatUniter Yeah, and to accomplish that she needed Republic City. Aang and Zuko in the comics we're divided what to do with it. Whether to return it to the Earth Kingdom or not. The Earth King wanted it back. Aang originally wanted to give it back too iirc. It was an issue that was going to eventually come up once the Earth Kingdom was powerful enough to exert its claims.
Kuvira did nothing wrong , she stopped chaos in earth kingdom and later wanted to regain territory of earth kingdom . I never understood why republic city was built in earth kingdom instead of fire nation since you know fire nation was one to start war and not only that but earth kingdom was one that fought the most
Things could've worked out really well if Suyin took charge stablizing Earth Kingdom. She's built to be a General, not a ruler. Just imagine tho, Suyin being the country's charismatic bebevolent leader and she's the attack dog if ppl step out of the line, that's a real world superpower I'm talking! I bet Suyin will have smoother ways talking her way to Wu's decree and a better plan to take Republic City(if the power corrupts her) --such us putting economic sanctions and diplomatic pressures etc, and gets her way through careful maneuvers and manipulation. Which is way more fun to watch than, let's say, brute force.
Still think Zuko has a great redemption arc. DIDNT mai had a similar problem but she just didn’t care? Her parents always shut her down so she rebelled against them as well?
TBH I didn’t or ever saw Kuvira as a villain but as a Hero a Real life Hero who new the world is a harsh place who needs a iron fist to control it. Best character ever and who should have been the Avatar in my opinion
The Legend of Korra had so many great villains, this may be unpopular but I honestly think Kuvira was the best, better than Zaher. Her motive seemed so genuine and real, plus she's a super likable character and has some of the best fight scenes. I REALLY wish she was in the show more
She deposed a King and warlords which it is ironic because they actualy do not have a right neither a power. She united all provinces and people accepted the rule and she restablished the order. Was her rule authoritarian yes but more acceptable than the most. At least she didnt inherited the power she created it.
The video tries to paint Kuvira as callously betraying Bataar Jr when he was captured, but she really did love him; she just weighed his singular life vs the ability to end the war then and there with all her enemies gathered in one place, and decided that she couldn't give up the opportunity even for a loved one.
She was one of the rare things to like in Legend of Korra. Also she is the second obvious proof after Lin that Suyin is a failure for being responsible and being a family member.
Same. Despite people arguing that Toph is the strongest just because she invented it which is a pretty weak reason since there will always come a time when someone will be better and perfect it more like Kuvira did.
@@Vetrarland i always thought that at some point toph would became super weak, because she senses moves and pressure from the earth but what if they'd train to simply just stay perfectly still and create a type of (metal)bending or any bending that'd just didn't need to move, like mind bending. I'd imagine toph being in an insane advantage at some point
So she should be sorry for stopping bandits, spreading the prosperity of Zaofu, and taking back land belonging to the earth kingdom.. I really don't understand why they tried to make her evil. Kuvira was the leader the Earth Kingdom needed after a long line of pompous royals.
Exactly! She was never interested in world domination. She only wanted to restore her country's historic borders and provide it with the standard of living Zaofu has.
@@howiebrown789 Her country fell into a warring states period rife with mass banditry and famine. How do you propose she end a period of immense violence and instability without anyone getting hurt? She went out her way to minimize bloodshed. The protagonists broke international borders as well on mutiple occasions before they even learned she was going to attempt to initiate an operation that would result in the indigenous population regaining stolen territory if she was successful.
She is like an earthbending, more modern version of azula, but the only difference, is that she actually redeemed herself and is striving for a better future, while azula lived the rest of her days alone, being a shell of her former glory.
I really love how TLOK explored villains of literary every other bending style except for fire. A (sort of) Non-bender, Waterbender, Airbender and finally, an Earthbender.
Wish we could have seen this arc play out in the animated series. A redemption arc is always a rush of emotions since you get to see a side of the villains you never gave much thought about
I love how she was introduced as a background character, and not like a foreshadow nor was She introduced right as the arc finished. You slowly learn more about her and you wonder who She is.
Gives a bit of realism to the world as not all threats appear after one disappears
And she saved tonraq too.
I like that they did that, but I also like the idea of Suyin lending her to Team Avatar as a guide around Zaofu, making her heel turn a sting a bit more.
i will say when i saw her introduce herself to korras dad in book 3 I definitely noticed that she had that look of significance. I didn't predict "she is gonna be the big bad of season 4" if I said that i'd be lying if i said i did.
but i knew as soon as it zoomed in on her face she would have some significance in book 4
i love your comment though because you are right
she very much started as a nobody and became super important like historic figures
YOU CAN CALL BE KUVIRA
That one was really heavy handed and feels very odd
She was introduced in the dance scene when su yin was introduced.😅
She was the only avatar villain that wasn’t going in blind with power alone. She was analytical, a strategic mastermind, and knew of ways to break the enemy. She is in all reality a true villain.
Facts
@Toph Beifong Azula was more like a sociopath then anything but she still had the "raw power" mainly and rarely ever showed off her logistical skills. The only moment she did was in all honesty during the Fall of Ba Sing Se which in reality wasn't all that special cause the Dai Li were pretty much only interested in a person with power.
Zaheer, Amon, Unalaq, literally none of the villains go in with power alone except for Ozai and some randoms. All the major villains plan their attacks.
@@shrekisthebestfranchiseand5032 this is actual facts, sure, a lot of them HAVE power, but almost all of them rely much more on wit than power
You are not giving Ozai the credit he deserves for all those qualities you just named
Kuvira shows us that every element can threaten every country. Not only firebening.
Korra enemies Amon, Unalaaq, Zaheer, and Kuvira where all different benders. Though Amon was a waterbender it was his Non-bending followers that was causing chaos. The Legend of Korra showed there where bad people from all nations
The earth kingdom did before the fire nation. Kyoshi wasn’t soft like Roku so she ended it expeditiously
@@tolkienblack chin the conqueror
@@tolkienblack kyoshi was a vadass and we love her for it
She shows us a LOT more than that. She is what every one of the villains feared: She is a bending tyrant, she destroys the sacred spiritual aspects of the world, she is a fascist who enslaved a nation and allows for no freedom… And beyond that she teaches us about how fascist dictatorships work:
The rhetoric and propaganda used, the militarism “might is right “mentality, obsession with “law and order” as an excuse to strip all freedoms and liberties
from people, economic control to the point that a few wealthy industrialists have a whole nation working as slaves for their benefit and the only way out of slavery is to join the military cause, the systemic persecution of ethnic minorities, (the guy from the prison camp mentioned the persecution in case you dont remember) and the infinite expansionism that would have led to her needing to conquer the world, crush the nations who would try to intervene, to maintain the empire.
And the show even made her giant cannon tank thingee look identical to the Nazi’s model down to the inch. Fascism seems understandable and like “the only option” for some people when a country is in times of chaos and turmoil, but it is NEVER the answer, and we must never listen to or be brainwashed by the Kuvira’s of the world, because they’ll just make things 1000 times worse.
My girl Kuvira deserves her "Kuvira Alone" episode nickelodeon took away from us.
Was that meant to be in lok s4?
@@manunited1235 yes instead of the episode “remembrances”
Basicly Zuko alone but for her.
Azula needs one too
Yeah your right about that she does deserve Kuvira alone episode
Kuvira proved herself to be the perfect match for Korra in Book 4. I was disappointed that their final battle didn’t last all that long.
I felt that but I really like that they had a heart to heart. That’s what I really wanted in the end!
I honestly think everything messed up when they put mechas in the show. That spoiled completely the beautiful martial arts of the previous seasons, and a mecha bigger than the tallest buildings of Republic City is just absurd. I understand the possible lack of funding because of the early end, but Kuvira's empire was perfect for a strong reference to Third Reich, what a pity they couldn't use it better.
I think the focus of the finale is the avatar feat that korra did that would be remembered for thousands of years. I'm having goosebumps!
I really hate how they put their last battle with a giant mecha robot. Come on, man.
Nope, unavatuu is the perfect match for korra in my opinion.
Zelda Williams did such a great job in voicing Kuvira.
Robin Williams daughter?
@@eren34558 Um, yea. Both she and Jan Varney have ties to UC San Diego. Jan Varney was a cheerleader. Years later, Zelda Williams was on the hip hop dance team.
Yeah her voice acting career should have grown more
@@devinreis5811 source? is it from janet's podcast?
@@claederis People magazine.
If only Nickelodeon hadn't cut the budget. Kuvira's origin episode was exactly what we needed and it would have made her redemption arc feel more earned.
Maybe they cut the budget because all hate towards Korra? :(
@@BabyFrostGiant What hate? The only hate came from a vocal minority. Also, they cut the budget to save money for SpongeBob.
@@BabyFrostGiant Most of that dislike/hate came after it ended I think anyway.
@@vetarlittorf1807 SpongeBob is now pointless
@@Disneyfan82
Yeah, SpongeBob ain't it honestly
Not gonna lie, I didn't really like her all that much as a villain, but I love her as a character. My opinion is probably different if she hadn't been the final challenge
Same
Plus she had a redemption arc……BEFORE AZULA
@@whistleking3407 I honestly think that azula didn't have a redemption because it wouldn't fit with her character.. she is too sociopathic and narcissic.
I’m
she killed asami sato's father by squishing him like a mosquito and she also almost killed bataar jr. and she also killed those two metal bender guards in the tower by shooting a beam at them like imagine them melting in that beam...
*I was cast aside by my own parents like I meant nothing to them! How could I just stand by and watch the same thing happen to my nation when it needed someone to guide it? - Kuvira explaining to Korra why she usurped power in the Earth Kingdom*
She's not fit to be a ruler but I do agree Monarchy should be abolished in Earth Kingdom
@@naturalinstinct4950
Eh I think Kuvira is perfectly fit to be a ruler given her accomplishments.
Kuvira reunified and stablized the EK a feat that only Chin the Great/Conquer only ever accomplished. Kuvira turned her violent, backwards, primitive, lawless Asian-sized homeland that fell into a warring states period rife with banditry, crumbling outdated infrastructure, mass famine, and etc into a rising modernizing superpower that boasted living standards superior to that of the old EK and were quickly approaching that of the most developed countries in the world if not surpassing them entirely. She even nearly managed to restore her homelands historic Pre-Hundred Year War borders.
The only issue regarding her rule was her not paying enough attention to how her subordinates were running the reeducation camps.
I think the Earth Kingdom’s monarchy would be perfect and better than any pathetic Republic if, instead of doing what she did, Kuvira forced Wu to marry her and then inserted earthbending genes into the Royal Family. They could use the same strategies as the Fire Nation used: making the Royal Family the strongest earthbenders in the world with royal-only training. A powerful and unrivaled Royal Family equals a powerful and unrivaled country.
@@emperorpalpatine2721 "But that all change when the Earth Nation attack. Only the avatars master of all 4 elements. Only he could stop the ruthless earthbenders! But when the world needed him most, he vanished."
@@Nhatanh0475 Haha, that would make a very nice story.
I honestly think that, had Kuvira never become The Great Uniter, she would've been the sister Korra never had.
Zelda Williams and Jan Varney are besties in real life, and even have a connection to the same university. Long before Zelda Williams was on the dance team at UC San Diego, Jan Varney was a cheerleader.
@@devinreis5811 I'm sure they'd wish that their characters would be as such in the show.
I can actually visualise Korra and Kuvira hanging out together and having the time of their lives.
@@zigzagdoublezee2033 I can imagine their VAs recording their lines together in the same booth in that hypothetical.
I can definitely see that.
I'd rather ship her with Korra instead of Asami. Lol
Baatar Jr: No, she wouldn't!
Kuvira: *Yeah, I would*
Same energy as "Kyoshi didn't yeet Chin!" "Yeah no, I did"
He probably should've told her "Ta-ta" a long time ago.
I think suyin made kuvira a dancer as a way to transition the raw talent and violent tendicies into something more creative
Coincidentally enough, Zelda Williams was on UC San Diego's dance team. Years before, her costar, Jan Varney was a cheerleader at the same university.
This only further reinforces why I’m not a big fan of Suyin. She’s a massive hypocrite and a narcissist. It’s okay for her to condemn Kuvira for her past mistakes, but wants Lin to forgive her of her own. Bataar Jr. also went down the same dark path, but he gets a pass? Lin’s right. She really hasn’t changed at all.
Now that you bring it up, i remember that too!
Definitely narcissistic vibes. Though i wish Toph would have revisited that properly aside from the brief scene she had with Lin where they made amends.
Lin followed all of the rules but somehow she gets cast aside? Lin had all the right to go NC with both Toph and Suyin.
Suyin definitely had a lot of time on her hands that her traits weren't seen by the rest of her kids. Bataar Jr. saw it all for what it was, I don't blame him for taking the path that he did
@@TheStickySpoon I love touph but…….she kinda started all of this😅
Suyin was once a lazy selfish criminal, but she definitely changed a lot and became a loving mother and a successful governor. Just look at Zaofu It's practically a paradise. It's a peaceful city and center for art and scientific learning thanks to the leadership of Suyin. Suyin didn't become a crime lord like Yakone or a brutal dictator like Unalaq.
@@alaljarensi6990 a narcissist doesn't necessarily have to be someone who is like Lady Tremaine from Cinderella. Narcissists will vary in their selfishness.
However Suyin definitely played Toph and that's up to Toph if she's willing to revisit that with herself. She redeemed herself with creating a city that caters to Metalbenders, but the fact that she's not willing to revisit her own wrong doings towards Lin and how critical she is of others instead of her own self speaks volumes about her character.
Then Lin has to accept the apology at face value for the sake of the balance of the world.
@@whistleking3407 Toph definitely needs family therapy. She's reeling from what her parents put her through and it shows between Lin and Suyin.
Her and Suyin have a rocky relationship
Sokka would be proud.
@@exirion2154 *ore* he might start saying more jokes
Suyin seems to have treated her more like an apprentice rather than a daughter, but still gave her so much. Suyin gave Kuvira an excellent education, a lavish lifestyle and titled her captain of the guard.
@@alaljarensi6990 but that’s nothing compared to love. She really reminds me of Azula.
Wow you would steel the joke I thought of!
Hopefully this will be the push to make people like Kuvira more. She was my favorite in Korra.
You want more Dictatorship that rule not a country, but an entire continent?
My favorite will forever be amon
Kuvira was my favorite too
yeah and then i remember that she was a fascist dictator
I forgot about Asami's father, that was literally said by her, there's no "Oh it wasn't shown/said that he is dead, so he might as well have survived it" nope
The best villain is Zaheer, the most powerful was Amon... But my favorite will always be Kuvira.
Amon or unavaatu
@@weshal5732 your right.
How is Amon more powerful than unavaatu?
@@arlainecarinugan3703 He isn’t more powerful than UnaVaatu, Base Unalaaq would’ve been weaker than Amon though
@@arlainecarinugan3703 He isn’t more powerful than UnaVaatu, Base Unalaaq would’ve been weaker than Amon though
Knowing she was going to be the next villain and having her be introduced in the Red Lotus arc was amazing.
“You can call me Kuvira”. And they zoom in on her face. They had this all planned out.
One of my favorite moments in the show was when Korra goes to Zaheer searching for answers. He then has to face the consequences of his actions when he learns more about Kuvira, and helps the Avatar reach stability, as he does not like world leaders.
Personally, I would’ve LOVED to see Kuvira vs Zaheer. Would’ve been absolutely AMAZING.
Zaheer would embarrass kuvira, kuvira was arrogant, trying to fight the avatar directly, she would have been killed in that first battle if it hadn't been for korra's mental weakness. Zaheer nearly succeeded while kuvira never really had a chance
Interesting fight. Both are prodigies. They should animate it. Kuvira could negate his flight with her metal sheets. Earth beats air.
@@jessegoodman9462 Or, in other words, rock beats airbender. Lol.
@@6thgraderfriends for what we see, really depends of fve master behind the element. But seems that Zaheer can fly and take air from people is very dangerous to Kuvira fight against him
You know who would really embarrasse Kuvira? Ming-Hua. Can't restrain hands mage of water
I hope they adapt her backstory into a miniseries
An interesting suggestion, though I'd like to take things one step further: let's ask for an anthology series that explores the unseen backstories of the antagonists of both ATLA/LOK eras.
An anthology series kind of like what Star Wars did with Tales of the Jedi would be cool
I'm so glad that Kuvira was able to redeem herself. She is one of my favorite antagonist in LOK, because her intentions weren't for herself, as I'd like to think and she genuinely wanted to make things better. The last part made me cry❤️😩 I wish Azula also have a chance for a redemption arc😢
Azula wasted an amazing prime in an asylum I would believe. After her brother Prince Zuko and Master Katara defeated her in the Agni Kai, she was left chained o her floor and sobbing. Zuko would have probably put her in a penal colony prison or asylum. Still, she could have escaped and went on to hide in the wilderness for the res of her days.
"It's over. You're gonna call off your army and surrender"
*"No u"*
and notice the parallels between her childhood and her Republic City attack. Instead of listening to her parents, she ran off. And instead of surrendering to the Avatar, she ran off...it took a chat with Korra in the Spirit World to realize she's not alone in how she feels
Sense when did u watch this show
Kuvira is one of my favorite LoK Villains along with Amon and Zaheer.
Personally my favourite was Amon
The fact you like 3/4 villains of Korra shows just how amazing the villains were in the show, outside of Azula I place all of the LoK villains (outside Unalaq) above the ATLA villains
I really love kuvira. She is my favourite character in LOK
Wish she wasn't a villain
Well she's not anymore.
The fact she's a villain is the best thing about her just wish she hadn't invaded the metal clan or betrayed her fiance
14:55 "Which of Kuvira's decisions, do you think had the most impact on her journey?"
The one that see yell for help to her rightful mother. If she start able to connect her family, she able to defeat the monster within herself.
I’m really glad they decided to redeem Kuvira. Her motivations actually made sense and she just took an extreme approach to her initial idea
She could have made the earth kingdom the modern fire nation if no one had stopped her she might have had the best intentions but she made the wrong approach to achieve said motivation
@@mohabalserafe3795 She made the right decisions initially but lost her way every time she thought she could lose control. She was very bad in reflecting herself and her actions, but she was sooooo young when she did all this...
@triange1304 I honestly hate that they decided to redeem her! In the comics they make it seem that somehow nobody got killed by her actions, which is just unbelievable. Look i wouldn't mind a redemtion arc for her, if they didn't show her blasting that border guard building and the ships with her cannon, there is just no way that nobody got killed by that... Edit: Totally forgot about Asami's father, that was literally said by her, there's no "Oh it wasn't shown/said that he is dead, so he might as well have survived it" nope
She originally appeared as an evil dicatator but her turn around from that point as seen in the comics was the most critical point in her journey alongside her ability to truthfully admit to her all the horrendous crimes she had comitted
I wanna see kuvira's 3 years rise to power
Are we going to avoid the fact that kuvira is basically adopted by suyin and was going to marry her adopted brother.
I have been trying to tell everyone I know but no one will listen
Lol well
I didn't see no adoption papers. Case closed. 👍
It's not a big deal.. Suyin adopted Kuvira when she's a kid not a baby
Like she was raised with him as a brother doing sibling activities like isn't that questionable?
Hope they have a mini series and she becomes something like what Bucky/Winter soldier/White wolf was. Her home is attacked and she is called back to action when she is happily living peacefully but fights anyways.
Girl version of Winter Soldier
Okay, she move up to A tier on my villain list. I have a soft spot for villain recognizing the error in their ways and redeeming themselves. She wasn't as terrifying like amon or as charismatic like zaheer. And we don't talk about unalaq. But now for me she's more than just a mid tier villain. Just a little bit more than that.
She has less abstract philosophy like those guys have. She was a conqueror that wanted to bring the Earth Kingdom under order, and convinced herself that she was the only person capable of doing so regardless of the cost.
We don’t talk about Unalaq no no no! 😂
I think Zaheer is the best villain but IMO Kuvira was more charismatic than him.
she killed asami sato's father by squishing him like a mosquito and she also almost killed bataar jr. and she also killed those two metal bender guards in the tower by shooting a beam at them like imagine them melting in that beam...
@@TioC-L-S Those are just on screen. She conquered an entire continent which definitely would have caused many thousands of deaths.
"We know you broke the vase, Kuvira. Admit it"
"No! I didn't do anything!"
*"Amazing, every word of what you just said...was wrong"*
1:30 That is a very nice foreshadowing of Kuvira's relationship with Korra in season 4.
Kuvira facing her demons and why she did the things she did would of been an interesting story arc in the animated series. Still one of the best underrated characters in my opinion. 👌👌👌💜✌
Love how Kuvira fights like an Air Bender, light on her feet and precise with her metal bending. Oppose to typical Earth Benders.
Kuvira had the toughest moments in life - from her exile in her family to the exile in Zaofu - she experienced dark points where her evil self originated. But she also had the toughest calls and decisions to make in life, and it led to changes in her life. Her final decision to plea guilty on the final trial and take full charge of her actions, that was the point where she finally redeemed herself, her reputation, her family in Zaofu, to the Beifongs, and to the world.
A legendary line: you give metal benders a bad name
She is litterally right about everything.
Taking command of a disorginazed earth kingdom when nobody wanted to, deposing a weak fool of a king, recapturing land that was stolen after they won the war
And very trustful building a mega Tank and Super mecha suit, far more than enough for taking down Republic city.
Kuvira vs Korra a really great match. I was happy in the end Korra was able to convince Kuvira to surrender
"Rocky Childhood"
I see what you did.
I’m still a proponent of her becoming a temporary Team Avatar member in Season 3. Like, Suyin lending her to the team as a liaison. I think that would have made her heel turn in Season 4 a touch more impactful.
I know this is an old comment, but I can’t resist replying because you are so right: it would have been awesome to have her as a temporary member in season 3!
i didn't like the 1 season villain type deal with Lok so I think this would've helped smooth into Kuvira's season.
2:10 that reminds of Zosin who also wanted to spread the advances of the Firenation. At least, that is how he justified his actions.
sooo Kuvira was raised as Suyin's daughter but then was engaged to Suyin's son? 👀
what are you doing stepbro?
I don't think suyin approved of this
To this day I still hope that someday, someone will make the originally planned backstory episode.
I remember simping Kuvira she was an interesting villain. And I miss avatar series , I might buy the comics.
Not a comic reader but I loved the comics, definitely recommend buying them!
if your looking for more Avatar you should also look at the novels, 2 novels about Kyoshi and 1 about Yangchen so far, they are such awesome books. Rise of Kyoshi is my favorite.
You know, I see a pattern here. Earth Kingdom tries to take over the world, but get stopped by the Avatar. The Fire nation tries the same thing, but get foiled by who? The Avatar. And then the Earth Kingdom make a second attempt to conquer the world, but what happens? The Avatar prevents that from happening a third time. You’d think they would learn by now not to make a power grab of world domination. Because what happens every time? Well, you get the idea.
To be fair, the fire nation and the earth kingdom ALMOST succeeded, so I can see why they would try over and over again
cause they having a large population and army @@ky5059
Hey countries and corrupt people in don't learn in real life either
Kuvira wasn't intrested in conquering the world. She was only interested in restoring her country's pre-Fire Nation imperialism borders.
@@GreatUniter Yeah, and to accomplish that she needed Republic City. Aang and Zuko in the comics we're divided what to do with it. Whether to return it to the Earth Kingdom or not. The Earth King wanted it back. Aang originally wanted to give it back too iirc. It was an issue that was going to eventually come up once the Earth Kingdom was powerful enough to exert its claims.
Kuvira did nothing wrong , she stopped chaos in earth kingdom and later wanted to regain territory of earth kingdom . I never understood why republic city was built in earth kingdom instead of fire nation since you know fire nation was one to start war and not only that but earth kingdom was one that fought the most
Because of the fire nation colonies in the earth kingdom, thats what became republic city
Kuvira is definitely my favourite character. In the whole Lok series, actually even beats Toph
She is the second villain that I wanted the most to win. The first is Azula.
Omg kuvira is like my favorite character besides Korra
Ty for doing da video
Things could've worked out really well if Suyin took charge stablizing Earth Kingdom. She's built to be a General, not a ruler. Just imagine tho, Suyin being the country's charismatic bebevolent leader and she's the attack dog if ppl step out of the line, that's a real world superpower I'm talking! I bet Suyin will have smoother ways talking her way to Wu's decree and a better plan to take Republic City(if the power corrupts her) --such us putting economic sanctions and diplomatic pressures etc, and gets her way through careful maneuvers and manipulation. Which is way more fun to watch than, let's say, brute force.
This is the kind of redemption I wish Azula had gotten
wait. suyin adopted her and then she got engaged to suyin’s son? 🤨
Just another stepsibling story :P
Kuvira: Stepbrother!? I'm stuck!
Why tho kuvira why
Still think Zuko has a great redemption arc. DIDNT mai had a similar problem but she just didn’t care? Her parents always shut her down so she rebelled against them as well?
Azula and Kuvira are the best villains in the franchise
"I knew you were weak" immediately became Fire Lord with VERY little hesitation lol
Wow that's an interesting story. I thought Kuvira was a pretty cool character. The scene where her and Su fight on the train is great
TBH I didn’t or ever saw Kuvira as a villain but as a Hero a Real life Hero who new the world is a harsh place who needs a iron fist to control it. Best character ever and who should have been the Avatar in my opinion
The Legend of Korra had so many great villains, this may be unpopular but I honestly think Kuvira was the best, better than Zaher. Her motive seemed so genuine and real, plus she's a super likable character and has some of the best fight scenes. I REALLY wish she was in the show more
so basically she got a redemtion arc even when She's basically metal bending Mussolini
I absolutely LOVE Kuvira ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
My boyfriend wanted to marry the actress that voiced her: Zelda Williams. It was before we were dating.
She deposed a King and warlords which it is ironic because they actualy do not have a right neither a power. She united all provinces and people accepted the rule and she restablished the order. Was her rule authoritarian yes but more acceptable than the most. At least she didnt inherited the power she created it.
How did I miss that kuvira was adopted by Sue? I feel like I knew that but didn't KNOW that (I.e make the connection)
to be fair, it was only very briefly mentioned in the last season (I think)
Ok...i'm gonna watch the comics of Legend of Korra right now , i loved the comics of Aang
The first part is really teenage fanfic cheesy writing. But the quality picks up.
I remember watching the show on tv. I knew she was going to be a problem when they introduced her. Very Hollywood and foreshadowing.
The moment she turned her super weapon against Batar Jr., I only was like:"Noo way!"
That moment blew my mind
The video tries to paint Kuvira as callously betraying Bataar Jr when he was captured, but she really did love him; she just weighed his singular life vs the ability to end the war then and there with all her enemies gathered in one place, and decided that she couldn't give up the opportunity even for a loved one.
Am I the only one who felt like Suyin had a lot to do with Kuviras problems?
Nope.
Yup and actually did something about her nation
The Kuvira origin story episode - Avatar's greatest tragedy
well after book 4 I was gonna say "I can fix her".....buuuuuut I guess she fixed herself. I love her char
2:05 that sounds familiar, “cough” Sozin
She was one of the rare things to like in Legend of Korra. Also she is the second obvious proof after Lin that Suyin is a failure for being responsible and being a family member.
Hey ! the - "Now its over" line was also used by ming hua in her final battle
Kuvira is the 2nd strongest metal bender apart from the avatar to me
Same. Despite people arguing that Toph is the strongest just because she invented it which is a pretty weak reason since there will always come a time when someone will be better and perfect it more like Kuvira did.
@@Vetrarland i always thought that at some point toph would became super weak, because she senses moves and pressure from the earth but what if they'd train to simply just stay perfectly still and create a type of (metal)bending or any bending that'd just didn't need to move, like mind bending. I'd imagine toph being in an insane advantage at some point
So she should be sorry for stopping bandits, spreading the prosperity of Zaofu, and taking back land belonging to the earth kingdom.. I really don't understand why they tried to make her evil. Kuvira was the leader the Earth Kingdom needed after a long line of pompous royals.
Thank you! I agree
Exactly! She was never interested in world domination. She only wanted to restore her country's historic borders and provide it with the standard of living Zaofu has.
@@GreatUniter bro...she hurt 1000s of people. Began a military dictatorship. Broke international borders. And other things
@@howiebrown789
Her country fell into a warring states period rife with mass banditry and famine. How do you propose she end a period of immense violence and instability without anyone getting hurt? She went out her way to minimize bloodshed.
The protagonists broke international borders as well on mutiple occasions before they even learned she was going to attempt to initiate an operation that would result in the indigenous population regaining stolen territory if she was successful.
@@GreatUniter regaining that territory through the pain and suffering of people? She promised to give power up but didnt
Whoa. Toph, kuvira and suyin fighting together is crazy...
Kuvira is the best villian of LoK
Nah. Amon is
Kuvira = Chin the Conqueror reincarnation
Chin the Conqueror that looks like Kyoshi lol…plus has the orphan origin 😅
Well that was a fun history lesson.
Kuvira is my Favorite character in the Lok series. Proudly done by the creators
We needed this, thank you 🙏
They say she didn't deserve a redemption arc but I still enjoyed it
Kuvira is my favorite TLOK character
Had no idea Kuvira has been through so much. 😥
Feel so bad for her
Imagine how powerful Kuvira would be if she was a bloodbender
Then she would have ended up like Amon
We already have Amon
Hold on, kuvira was adopted by su but then went on to get engaged with su’s actual son. That just seems weird to me
Kuvira’s definitely my second favorite avatar villain after Azula
Ruins of the Empire is an elite graphic novel
She is like an earthbending, more modern version of azula, but the only difference, is that she actually redeemed herself and is striving for a better future, while azula lived the rest of her days alone, being a shell of her former glory.
As soon she said, “you can call me kuvira” I’m like, “oh no… something bad is about to happen “
This is a really great show.
I really love how TLOK explored villains of literary every other bending style except for fire.
A (sort of) Non-bender, Waterbender, Airbender and finally, an Earthbender.
Wish we could have seen this arc play out in the animated series. A redemption arc is always a rush of emotions since you get to see a side of the villains you never gave much thought about
When curing the brainwashing I thought they would turn to Varrick and we could hear “do the thing” one last time :(
She's like an earth version of Azula😮🙌
From a dictator who had Zaofu under her control to being a prisoner and being at the mercy of Suyin Beifong
I loved it!
Does anyone have the urge to scream in pain whenever you see brainwashed Asami, Mako and bolin? I do
She and Amon both deserved more than one season each.
Kuvira reminds me a bit of the moustache man
She’s hot.
yes
Ugh.🤦🏿♂️
My favorite villain next to the Firelord himself.