Wanna give a huge thanks to Eric and Chad for everything you guys do for America and the 2A community. Been subbed now for about 3yrs now and am yet to miss an upload.
Same, bought one before that stupid EU law was applied which now restricts semiautomatic guns with overall lengt of below 60cm (2 feet) and mags with a capacity above 10 rounds (... well 10 rounds is 10 rounds) for not fist fired guns (handguns) here in Switzerland. These kind of guns are now "forbidden". However, you still can biy one if you have a special permit, for example if you are a collector or in a club. The GHM9 is an awesome gun and complements my ruger revolvers just fine. Luckily the ammo prices have not (yet) skyrocked in europe so far... Get one as long you can! The only thing is that the early versions known as Gen1 had some issues with shooting hollow point ammo, since this is illegal in Switzerland and therefore was not in scope first I guess. Bid they fixed that with the Gen2, that also is available with AR style lowers which have the bolt release and catch bolt button replaced by a lever above the magazine catch button. Press it down to release the bolt or hold it up to catch it while pulling the charging handle back. However, I prefer the old button style bolt release.
I went way waaaaaayyyyyy back and watched some of the older gun gripe videos my my how times have changed and a lot of things that y'all talked about have definitely come to light I love watching y'all gun gripe and have been watching them for years maybe y'all can do some kinda review/ revisit gun gripe anyways as always great video
I've only had 1 of my original CZ Scorpion mags crack at the feed lips, but it hasn't broken and is still fully functional. I also have several Scorpion steel reinforced mags from the Prepper Gun Shop and those have had several thousand rounds through them without fail. Scorpion mags are far less expensive than most other platforms and are even less expensive (or at least comparable) to the Glock mags. The GHM9 is a sexy gun, but at nearly double the cost to a CZ Scorpion . . . I'm happy with my choice.
Scorpions also blow up, there are tons of post and pictures out there of non-modded scorpions being ticking time bombs. I sold mine and got this. Couldn’t be happier. Plus I can use drum mags just for fun now
I try to steer clear of any kind of clear polymer magazine. They just don't hold up that well. Hopefully Magpul will come out with some compatible magazines for the B&T's.
I had an original 80's Colt R6540 for many years. Definitely, a way inferior platform to anything B&T has produced. The Colt mags made by Metalform were the best, but I would still rather use Glock mags any day, especially if my life was on the line.
@@JR15A2 I have an ar9 with a colt pattern lower already, I’m one of the weird ones that doesn’t like to look of the glock mag carbines so I don’t buy em lol
@@turbohayabusa01 The Glock mags do look a bit off the way they rake to the rear, but at least you never have to worry about rounds erupting from between the feed lips.
I’d thought the GHM9 was smaller than the APC9. Height-wise I’m sure that’s true, but when you showed them side-by-side the APC seems to have a shorter length receiver. I’ll have to keep saving now...
I have a glock 21 mag in .45 it split down whole back. A little duct tape in certain places it works lol. Going to epoxy the crack and put the duct tape back for range only.
I don't get why companies keep trying to push proprietary mags, especially when they are way less quality than existing fan favorites. The market has spoken and all they're doing is driving customers away
Had the B&T APC 9 Pro. The magazines are the worst made magazines for such an expensive firearms. That's why people go with the Glock lowers or Sig P320 lowers.
My GHM9c (with Glock lower) shoots better and more comfortably than my MP5k clone, Scorpion and MPX. Especially as a left handed shooter who shoots everything suppressed.
I really dig mine. However I recently discovered that the pic rail is not the same as an AR upper. The B&T rail is just a smidge wider and thus will not let me mount the new Vortex UH-1 Gen II. I'm hoping to get around this issue once Unity Tactical puts more of their 2.5 FAST mounts back on the market. Or do what IV8888 and MAC did by using the MRO.
@@Vibesave123 Well... kinda, sorta, but not really🤪 I ended up using a Unity Tactical F.A.S.T riser between the UH-1 and the GHM9. But that turned out to be too heavy/awkward for the GHM9. So... I ended up putting the UH-1/riser on my AR and went to a Trijicon MRO atop a Scalarworks LEAP mount for the GHM9. The LEAP is still a "snug" fit but I was able to make it work. Also, that pairing seems to feel better than the bulkier option.
Could I suggest some of the Magpul glock mags be included in the PCC mags test? I like using the Magpul 27rd glock mags in my GHM9-K with glock lower. So far so good.
All these videos make me happy and sad because I live in Commiefornia mfs won't even let us put a 15 rounder on a 10/22 without becoming a registered Felon
I hope that you all can help me. I recently bought a Mossberg 500 in 20 ga. Sweet gun. Now my question is this weapon has an advertising sticker on the side of shoulder stock. How can I remove it without doing any damage to my gun? Thanks for any help and advice you can give. Thanks again and stay safe and shoot straight.
@Iraqveteran8888 Take those expensive but she-iddy poly mags, tape off the transparent round count markings, etc with a small square on the inside and outside so they come out as round count windows, and then fill the cracks with like gorilla or loctite super glue and plasti-dip or better yet, flex seal dip them...watch them become invincible almost to Nokia 3310 level. (Or atleast, they should be slightly better for structural resiliency than they are now and the crack will be covered up.)
Idk why people look down on this guns appearance I think it looks cool as hell
Swiss Thompson
Me too
I think it’s sexy as hell. Also, Grasshopper mice are gangster, lol.
@@OgGotDaAk haha it does have that long receiver over the hand. Good comparison.
I love it soooo much
Wanna give a huge thanks to Eric and Chad for everything you guys do for America and the 2A community. Been subbed now for about 3yrs now and am yet to miss an upload.
Interesting that your the first one to bash any part of the b&t guns. Love the honesty
“Academic Purposes” that’s why I’ve been following for five years!!!
THANK YOU ERIC and CHAD!
Damn why are these companies cheaping out on magazines, they can make a $3000 gun run like a turd. Magazines are so important ...do them right!!!
Agreed, and I thought Cobreak had stopped making mags for other companies, lol!
because capitalism is mostly a shit model
@@zerpblerd5966 oh goody. A brain trust on here to guide us!
@@comiketiger oh goody, another sarcastic ego-driven asshat who can't get past himself
@@zerpblerd5966 commies mostly will get the rope
At this point I’d much rather watch someone shoot their .89 cent pre round 9mm on RUclips than go to the range myself
Times are tuff when IV8888 only shoots one box of ammo. Love the mag test idea. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
I have a GHM9 and I absolutely love it
Same here
Same, bought one before that stupid EU law was applied which now restricts semiautomatic guns with overall lengt of below 60cm (2 feet) and mags with a capacity above 10 rounds (... well 10 rounds is 10 rounds) for not fist fired guns (handguns) here in Switzerland. These kind of guns are now "forbidden". However, you still can biy one if you have a special permit, for example if you are a collector or in a club.
The GHM9 is an awesome gun and complements my ruger revolvers just fine. Luckily the ammo prices have not (yet) skyrocked in europe so far...
Get one as long you can!
The only thing is that the early versions known as Gen1 had some issues with shooting hollow point ammo, since this is illegal in Switzerland and therefore was not in scope first I guess. Bid they fixed that with the Gen2, that also is available with AR style lowers which have the bolt release and catch bolt button replaced by a lever above the magazine catch button. Press it down to release the bolt or hold it up to catch it while pulling the charging handle back. However, I prefer the old button style bolt release.
Love mine too
That clicking sound after each shot.... that put me on
Scorpion mags are picking up steam to be the pcc staple . Excited to see your magazine test.
love how the subtitles say "(Applause)" at 0:28
Ive owned the gun for 2.5 years. Disappointing magazine quality but the gun is dead accurate and built like a dream. Thanks for the review.
The b&t magazines are low quality?
@@thomascaston4644it’s addressed in most of this video they crack easily and do not have any metal reinforcement
I love how they named it the GHM9 which stands for Grasshopper Mouse (which eats Scorpions). Get it? Can you see why they did that?
It also has a little mouse engraved on the inside eating a scorpion :)
@@wheezzl taking a shot at the CZ Scorpion.
Very excited for the magazine showdown!
Love my GHM9. Runs like a rabbit, no failures.
I love how it literally looks like they took their MP9 and stretched it to make a PCC
I went way waaaaaayyyyyy back and watched some of the older gun gripe videos my my how times have changed and a lot of things that y'all talked about have definitely come to light I love watching y'all gun gripe and have been watching them for years maybe y'all can do some kinda review/ revisit gun gripe anyways as always great video
Whatever happened to that Itchica Mag 10 that yall had? Would love to see the stendo on that beast.
I look forward to seeing your magazine test. Keep up the good work.
Keep up the great work Eric and Chad!
My name is Veteran. Iraq Veteran.
Thank you for sharing this video. I really like this weapon. I like the one you did on the HK UMP 40 and I'm gonna get one of those.
As always, another good video.
It reminds me of a modern 1928 thompson, It would look good with a thompson stock and vertical grip. But you would have to sbr it.
favorite channel
This is like an orchestra...with Guns 💪🏼!
I've only had 1 of my original CZ Scorpion mags crack at the feed lips, but it hasn't broken and is still fully functional. I also have several Scorpion steel reinforced mags from the Prepper Gun Shop and those have had several thousand rounds through them without fail. Scorpion mags are far less expensive than most other platforms and are even less expensive (or at least comparable) to the Glock mags.
The GHM9 is a sexy gun, but at nearly double the cost to a CZ Scorpion . . . I'm happy with my choice.
Scorpions also blow up, there are tons of post and pictures out there of non-modded scorpions being ticking time bombs. I sold mine and got this. Couldn’t be happier. Plus I can use drum mags just for fun now
Enjoyed the video thanks for giving the price points
I do not see any B&T triggers at Aim Surplus at all, did you get a prototype or something?
I try to steer clear of any kind of clear polymer magazine. They just don't hold up that well. Hopefully Magpul will come out with some compatible magazines for the B&T's.
Thanks, Rick
Great idea about the mag testing Eric! Really liking that model from B&T! There quality is usually stellar! Stay safe and God bless 🇺🇸☠️🇺🇸!!!!
Excellent job, Liked & Subscribed.
NICE JOB ON THE VIDEO ERIC!!
Have been wanting one for quite some time. Someone needs to make a colt mag lower!
I had an original 80's Colt R6540 for many years. Definitely, a way inferior platform to anything B&T has produced. The Colt mags made by Metalform were the best, but I would still rather use Glock mags any day, especially if my life was on the line.
@@JR15A2 I have an ar9 with a colt pattern lower already, I’m one of the weird ones that doesn’t like to look of the glock mag carbines so I don’t buy em lol
@@turbohayabusa01 The Glock mags do look a bit off the way they rake to the rear, but at least you never have to worry about rounds erupting from between the feed lips.
How about a Scorpion mag lower? 😁
Save yourself $700 and just buy a scorpion.
CMMG All Day but love yall vids
Guys so have they fix the magazine issue since then? I would like one but I don’t want to invest 1600 and the magazine is not so good
Just get the glock lower, runs everything. Admittedly doesn't look as cool, but take hollows like nothin (at least the latest gen)
Plinktastic!!
good to know you had to cut down the foregrip you have on it. I was looking to use the angled grip like that myself
I’d thought the GHM9 was smaller than the APC9. Height-wise I’m sure that’s true, but when you showed them side-by-side the APC seems to have a shorter length receiver. I’ll have to keep saving now...
Or not, now that I’ve got to the part of the video where you talk about the magazine’s fragility.
I’m glad this wasn’t no Trashbog
I have a glock 21 mag in .45 it split down whole back. A little duct tape in certain places it works lol. Going to epoxy the crack and put the duct tape back for range only.
When you test mags can you run a magpul scorpion magazine?
I don't get why companies keep trying to push proprietary mags, especially when they are way less quality than existing fan favorites. The market has spoken and all they're doing is driving customers away
Woohoo Jacob... Keep it going buddy.
Maybe get a two part epoxy to fix that crack, seems like it'll keep on going though
Thank you for the video.
Cool piece
I have the APC9 and 45 pro. I run my APC9 with an omega 9k as well and the recoil impulse suppressed is amazing. I would love to shoot one full auto
I appreciate the video I plan on purchasing however since this video was made three years ago, have they improved on their magazines thank you
Awesome gun definitely would like one 👍
Top 5 best carry rounds for 2021! Scarce ammo edition! Please.
Hollow points are still widely available. They have always been more expensive. That's just part of the life
Where are they available? Seriously?
Had the B&T APC 9 Pro. The magazines are the worst made magazines for such an expensive firearms. That's why people go with the Glock lowers or Sig P320 lowers.
My GHM9c (with Glock lower) shoots better and more comfortably than my MP5k clone, Scorpion and MPX. Especially as a left handed shooter who shoots everything suppressed.
As a fellow lefty, i need to see more comments like this. Bout to get the ghm 45
That just looks sick
Good information.
PCCs were so fun until 9mm starting costing the same as 5.56
Not anymore. 9 is about 60 cents, and 5.56 is still 90 cents per round
Would be helpful to see disassembly and internal parts.
Do you know any place that has the folding charging-handle in stock? I can't find one anywhere.
B&T got pistol with stock, make video about that, it is pretty unique
I really dig mine. However I recently discovered that the pic rail is not the same as an AR upper. The B&T rail is just a smidge wider and thus will not let me mount the new Vortex UH-1 Gen II. I'm hoping to get around this issue once Unity Tactical puts more of their 2.5 FAST mounts back on the market. Or do what IV8888 and MAC did by using the MRO.
Ever figure it out? Wanted to throw that same sight on mine and didnt even realize the rails werent the same. Thanks
@@Vibesave123 Well... kinda, sorta, but not really🤪 I ended up using a Unity Tactical F.A.S.T riser between the UH-1 and the GHM9. But that turned out to be too heavy/awkward for the GHM9. So... I ended up putting the UH-1/riser on my AR and went to a Trijicon MRO atop a Scalarworks LEAP mount for the GHM9. The LEAP is still a "snug" fit but I was able to make it work. Also, that pairing seems to feel better than the bulkier option.
Could I suggest some of the Magpul glock mags be included in the PCC mags test? I like using the Magpul 27rd glock mags in my GHM9-K with glock lower. So far so good.
i had 3 mags crack from storage as well. 100%, a gen 2 mag is needed. Or someone needs to make aftermarket mags for the B&T
At this point I don't know which costs more: the gun or the ammo!
Should do a new review with the pro model that has the glock lower ;)
mine is stovepiping constantly right now....trying to get a response from B&T
With the surefire placement I thought the silencer was a round new eccentric can.
Mr. Eric, which should I buy the APC 9 with Glock lower or GHM9 with Glock lower? Thx boo
I'd go with the GHM9 with a glock lower. It'll be a slightly cheaper
I had trouble with feeding 115gr aluminum blazer 9mm
Please do a magazine tortured test
All these videos make me happy and sad because I live in Commiefornia mfs won't even let us put a 15 rounder on a 10/22 without becoming a registered Felon
That's exactly what complacency and refusing to act will earn ya. Enjoy!
Come to Florida and vote red.
@@NoNo_IStay I'm sure Dominion and Smartmatic had nothing to do with this development over the years.
Henry 22lr has the 15 round tube legal for you in commieland.
You should move
Have you ever done a meltdown video with a sub 2000
Cool tool
I hope that you all can help me. I recently bought a Mossberg 500 in 20 ga. Sweet gun. Now my question is this weapon has an advertising sticker on the side of shoulder stock. How can I remove it without doing any damage to my gun?
Thanks for any help and advice you can give.
Thanks again and stay safe and shoot straight.
Cz scorpion carbine cheaper PCC and the magazines are cheap and reliable also . Plus magpul makes 35 rd mags
I'd love to see it with the Sig lower.
Hey, what aftermarket trigger did you have in yours? I assume this is AR15 compatible?
When is the lwrc smg-9 coming out?
Was this filmed in the same range that FPS Russia used back in the day?
Looks familiar!
FPS Russia filmed in NE Georgia whereas iV8888 films south of Atlanta I believe.
@Cav Trooper 19D thanks for confirming chief!
GHM9...your title is not right lol
Love this gun!
I thought that wasn't right as well. Good catch
where did you purchase the suppressor from ?
Keep in mind that this is a Gen 1 GHM9.
Does anybody know who manufactures that cheek rest for the telescoping stock?
I’m looking for that as well.
Still waiting on the glock lower video!
isn't he Tyler Hoover's mechanics?
What is the name of the AFG on the GHM9?
Is there a gun like that chambered in. 45 acp?
where did you get the sweatshirt?
Glock and P320 mags are the way to go.
Try the Magpul Glock mags in your test.
@Iraqveteran8888 Take those expensive but she-iddy poly mags, tape off the transparent round count markings, etc with a small square on the inside and outside so they come out as round count windows, and then fill the cracks with like gorilla or loctite super glue and plasti-dip or better yet, flex seal dip them...watch them become invincible almost to Nokia 3310 level. (Or atleast, they should be slightly better for structural resiliency than they are now and the crack will be covered up.)
Test the mpx mags too
So many PCC's to choose
this is an extremely fun gun to shoot, it only likes glock mags tho.
I want one!!!!!
Where can you find that brace
I feel like this is what the glock carbine is going to look like
Test some AK-V mags too, plz
Which brace is this?