That's great! We have them ready to ship out whenever you are ready. We have a Cyber Monday sale going on today with a further discount on the already discounted Hyperpack that includes this exhaust along with our integrated taillight, fender eliminator and undertail closeout.
Dushan Jayathissa how does it sound compared to termi's ? i have a full termi on 1198s n was thinking of the toce for the look. kinda dont like the label toce there but hey
TSTindustries I checked out your website and saw the packaged deal you guys offer. Great stuff 👍 that’s for sure what I’m going with once I pick up the 848
Looking to get a 1098/1198 soon. Love how there are other choices than Termi for these bikes. Akrapovic sounds different and the TOCE has more of a GP SHORTY, mixed with the twin and dry clutch, amazing combo of sound. I think it’s great that every Ducati doesn’t have a TERMI exhaust cause everyone would sound the same
@@FadiSetGo well being Italian and an SBK fan for me Termi is still the best, I'd never put an Akrapovic on a Ducati ..BUT this TOCE sounds amazing and I'd totally get one! Thing is they're not street legal and if you find a cop with a bad day they can take your bike if the exhaust is not legal
I don't want my Ducati to sound like a statement. I want it to make the beautiful booming basso profundo music that Ducatis make so well. That means big cans fed by big (preferably 70 mm) pipes. Small cans don't go boom, and a Ducati should go boom.
Went to install these today on my 848, unable to get the pipes to line up with the fixed hole under the passenger seat to screw it in. Same issue on both sides of the exhaust. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue? The TOCE mid pipes are about 1/2" to long it seems. Tried multiple manipulations of the midpipe and exhaust.
It sounds like you do not have the midpipes bottomed out in the canisters or they are rotated in a way that makes the mount not line up. Please manipulate the rotation of the midpipes within the canisters and on the bikes midpipe, and also make sure that the midpipes are bottomed out in the canisters.
Best looking undertail exhaust especially for the ducatis where most exhausts out there are longer than the tail and bulky. And the sound is godlike...do you ship to Europe?Tell me so..
Ok so question to replace the termi exhaust on 1198 with toce or the arrow exhaust on 848. Both 2011. I like the sound of the arrow more as it has more resonance vs the termi. The termi is actually quieter. How does the toce compare. Let’s assume all are slip ons. Does one need to reflash the ECU for slip ons or is that only full systems?
You should be ok without tuning if doing only slip on. We two videos on our channel demonstrating the sound at standstill, and fly by shots up and down our street. You can get a handle for the sound from those vids. ruclips.net/video/F9k-NHBOqPU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/Ot6eeBnX34U/видео.html
After a proper tune, you can expect a higher peak horsepower and torque due to the freeflow design of this exhaust. A good tune will be needed to make sure you aren't sacrificing torque and getting ripples in the torque curve.
Tino5135 The only thing we worked on for the Streetfighter was a fender eliminator kit. At this point we are unsure if we are going to launch that kit, and if we are going to design any other parts for that bike.
These exhausts come with the baffles installed. The sound depicted in the video is with the baffles installed. When the baffles are removed the sound gets much louder. We took this bike to the track and measured the sound with a dB meter to be 102dB, open throttle, at about 9500 RPM. For homologation most jurisdictions measure the sound at I believe between 5000 and 6000 RPMs with less than full load. This is as in depth as I can get about the sound at this moment.
We will most likely still have this stuff in 2024. As long as there is demand we will still sell the parts. Once demand drops off then we will have to discontinue.
Are you referring to the tail light? The tail light on this bike is a TST Industries unit. If you follow the link below you can find more info on that part tstindustries.com/Ducati-848-1098-1198-All-Years/
We installed our Fender Eliminator in a separate video. Please follow the link below to watch the installation of that product on this bike: ruclips.net/video/Z9d4o2ZU_lw/видео.html
TSTindustries During an accident. Would it not be better to round the edges? You've literally created large hypodermic needles that would gouge tissue out. Like pointed noses on surfboards.
Ducati Drew I think that you are assuming that the tips are ground to a point. In fact the edges meeting the face and wall of the tubes are machines smooth and there is no sharp edge. If you manage to crash your bike in a way that your leathers and/or body make contact with your exhaust you probably will have bigger problems than the exhaust.
You can feel free to take your bike to a shop and have them install it but we feel as if our installation video is a huge help for our customers to install it themselves.
Can anybody explain to me why a toce slip-on cost over $1,000 lol. Don't get me wrong my 848 wil sound amazing but s*** it's a f****** slip-on. Awesome sound and look though
Where is his license plate? Gonna get pulled for that,and the extra loud pipe will make him stand out to cops. It ain't a Harley,they love screwing with sport bikes.
We had a go-pro camera mounted in place of the license plate because we were getting a few camera angle shots simultaneously. We know the cops in our town and they know we do videos for our company so they leave us be.
I don't know why you are directing this comment at us. People like this exhaust and they buy it. We put a lot of time, effort and money into making a video that shows these people how to install the parts. Why are we getting flack for the design of something we didn't make?
@@TSTindustries It's a public forum for providing comments...you're being rather 'sensitive', no? It's my opinion on the 'product'...try not to melt. To me, Toce look appropriate on older CBRs, R1s with under tail exhausts. In those apprications, they both look and sound OK. Having owned multiple Ducatis, Arrow/Termis sound/perform best when set up with one can per cylinder and not split (cat removed, complete exhaust system)...pricey but well worth it. Quad Tip Toce 'slip-ons' on an L-Twin Ducati reminds me of teen 'Ricer Boys' putting dual chrome exhaust tips on their stone stock Honda Civic Sedan and thinking that they've 'done something' to 'improve' their car. Hence, my use of the term 'poseur'. It's a rather appropriate analogy imho. Perhaps some may think that a Quad Tip Toce slip on would look great on a 3 cylinder MV Brutale...not me. Hey, to each their own... I hope that this clarifies my original comment for you and that you now 'feel' better and less 'triggered'...Peace.
TSTindustries Don't get me wrong, i love almost all your products and I also very angry because i can't find them here in Italy. For example I would like to buy the tail lights for my 1098S but i can't find them here. The reason for my comment is very simple: your exhaust is incredibly good looking but comparing it with the stock Termignoni Carbon you lose on the sound side. It's a thing for real ducatists: Ducati works incredibly well with Termignoni both on the sound side and the performance side, expecially when paired with a Ducati Corse CU. Said that, the sound at the end of the video is no more the sound of a 1098 (your minimum is also very high, Ducatis usually have to be set very low, even lower than the factory default) with stock Termignoni and for a passionate italian ducatist like me it's important. Kudos for the style but I think the TOCE is better on 4 cylinders bikes. Since I am here, where can i buy the tail lights in Europe?
Carlovfx Thanks for voicing your opinion. Like with any part, there will be people that like the design, and then there will be those that do not. It is incredibly difficult to appeal to everyone, especially a purist. These exhausts typically appeal to people who like to make a lot of noise and be noticed. There is a saying here in the USA (land of the Harley): Loud pipes save lives. We have had requests from several UK based distributors to become our dealer. Unfortunately at this time we prefer to deal direct to the end user so you will not find a local distributor. We can get you set up with one of the taillights and ship it right to your door if you would like. If you are ok going that route then please check out our website.
you mean to tell me 4 little pipes cost almost as much as ohlins suspension unit, which actually has science behind it ? what are you smoking, people, this is 500 $ max
AWESOME LOOKING PIPES!!! looking forward on purchasing them for my DucatiCorse 1198s!
That's great! We have them ready to ship out whenever you are ready. We have a Cyber Monday sale going on today with a further discount on the already discounted Hyperpack that includes this exhaust along with our integrated taillight, fender eliminator and undertail closeout.
Ok thanks!!
+Kerem Karapinar you're welcome
Great vid now i just need the exhaust and the bike.
The sound is seriously loud.It is a monstrous sound. It roars like a lion.
Dushan Jayathissa how does it sound compared to termi's ? i have a full termi on 1198s n was thinking of the toce for the look. kinda dont like the label toce there but hey
and you want it that way so people get out of the way and dont just swerve on you
That exhaust is sick im getting one
Right on! We have plenty in stock ready for immediate delivery.
Man!!!!!!!. The exhaust sounds like a roaring lion!!!!!. Those exhaust look so cool ,and the sound of the exhaust is monstrously mean .
Dushan Jayathissa They sure do sound great. The sound makes the bike very intimidating.
Damn. These weren’t available when I had this Ducati in 2014. Now I may buy one again and this is sick
Well...we actually released this product in 2014 after working on the design and tooling all of 2013 and 2014
TSTindustries I checked out your website and saw the packaged deal you guys offer. Great stuff 👍 that’s for sure what I’m going with once I pick up the 848
guys dont just sound good but looks fantastic well done
***** yeah from the stuff seen off them yeah they are ace
awesome video on fitting and sounds epic
Ducati will be my next bike ! I love the sound the design and the "prestige" ... but it's expensive :(
Wish these were street legal in Italy, always wanted a Toce :'(
Looking to get a 1098/1198 soon. Love how there are other choices than Termi for these bikes. Akrapovic sounds different and the TOCE has more of a GP SHORTY, mixed with the twin and dry clutch, amazing combo of sound. I think it’s great that every Ducati doesn’t have a TERMI exhaust cause everyone would sound the same
@@FadiSetGo well being Italian and an SBK fan for me Termi is still the best, I'd never put an Akrapovic on a Ducati ..BUT this TOCE sounds amazing and I'd totally get one! Thing is they're not street legal and if you find a cop with a bad day they can take your bike if the exhaust is not legal
@@agoniavr are you sure that are not legal? How can we proof?
@@giuseppeverde9975 they don't come with the EU homologation paper so unfortunately these can't be used on the Streets in Italy :/
what you're telling me is anyone can just walk uP & steal your exhaust system while the bike is unattended😂😂
And your wheels, your rearsets, and many other parts....but why would they?
Great looking...and sounding product..
I don't want my Ducati to sound like a statement. I want it to make the beautiful booming basso profundo music that Ducatis make so well. That means big cans fed by big (preferably 70 mm) pipes. Small cans don't go boom, and a Ducati should go boom.
Nice
Hi!! I love the exhaust! Where i can get it ??
We used to sell it through our web store tstindustries.com but recently stopped. You can still get them straight from Toceperformance.com
Any work to the ecu?
can i just know can you install a passenger ped on the ducati 848
Passenger pegs are OEM equipment on the 848. Our bike just had them removed.
Yahet💋❤
Is this exhaust approved in italy?
You would have to check with your local authorities before making a purchase.
👍👍
Thanks
that shit look sick af bro
Are these exhausts still sold today?
Yes
Went to install these today on my 848, unable to get the pipes to line up with the fixed hole under the passenger seat to screw it in. Same issue on both sides of the exhaust. Wondering if anyone else has had this issue? The TOCE mid pipes are about 1/2" to long it seems. Tried multiple manipulations of the midpipe and exhaust.
It sounds like you do not have the midpipes bottomed out in the canisters or they are rotated in a way that makes the mount not line up. Please manipulate the rotation of the midpipes within the canisters and on the bikes midpipe, and also make sure that the midpipes are bottomed out in the canisters.
TSTindustries are the midpipes for the 08-13 848 the same as 07-11 1098/1198?
Yes they are.
Atreaux just got the same problem on my 848
Best looking undertail exhaust especially for the ducatis where most exhausts out there are longer than the tail and bulky.
And the sound is godlike...do you ship to Europe?Tell me so..
we ship to most locations in Europe.
Piękny dźwięk
Ano tak. Dziekujemy. A jak sie tylna lampa podoba? To jest lampa naszej produkcji ktura Polak zaprojektowal.
Ok so question to replace the termi exhaust on 1198 with toce or the arrow exhaust on 848. Both 2011. I like the sound of the arrow more as it has more resonance vs the termi. The termi is actually quieter. How does the toce compare. Let’s assume all are slip ons. Does one need to reflash the ECU for slip ons or is that only full systems?
You should be ok without tuning if doing only slip on. We two videos on our channel demonstrating the sound at standstill, and fly by shots up and down our street. You can get a handle for the sound from those vids.
ruclips.net/video/F9k-NHBOqPU/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Ot6eeBnX34U/видео.html
Can you please sir make one video on No. Plate fitting with Toce exhaust. Sir
Super
sounds nice!!!! :)
thanks
Is there any technical benefits?
After a proper tune, you can expect a higher peak horsepower and torque due to the freeflow design of this exhaust. A good tune will be needed to make sure you aren't sacrificing torque and getting ripples in the torque curve.
Donde puedo comprar ese escape?
you Guys got something for a Ducati streetfighter?
Tino5135 The only thing we worked on for the Streetfighter was a fender eliminator kit. At this point we are unsure if we are going to launch that kit, and if we are going to design any other parts for that bike.
Tried to install today the pipes where every difficult to play around with. Any advice on how to maybe loosen them a bit?
RR Randy If your installation is presenting challenges please call our customer service line and we will help you out.
What about for the Ducati Monster 796?
Does this exhaust have db-killers as well? This one is amazing, but I guess in Germany they will not be allowed like this..
These exhausts come with the baffles installed. The sound depicted in the video is with the baffles installed. When the baffles are removed the sound gets much louder. We took this bike to the track and measured the sound with a dB meter to be 102dB, open throttle, at about 9500 RPM. For homologation most jurisdictions measure the sound at I believe between 5000 and 6000 RPMs with less than full load. This is as in depth as I can get about the sound at this moment.
TSTindustries Thank you for your quick response, really appreciate it. Keep up the good work!
Are these louder than Termignoni?
Yes it is louder and raspier
You guys Makin these in like 2024? Probably will get the bike by then I dunno
I absolutely love all the stuff you guys put out for it
We will most likely still have this stuff in 2024. As long as there is demand we will still sell the parts. Once demand drops off then we will have to discontinue.
Nothing for the streetfighter 848? :^(
not at the moment
It would be amazing if there was :( there would be at least 2 customers haha
what kind of backlights are those?
Are you referring to the tail light? The tail light on this bike is a TST Industries unit. If you follow the link below you can find more info on that part
tstindustries.com/Ducati-848-1098-1198-All-Years/
WOLLLL, gostaria de ser representante de sua marca aqui no brasil,
Sorry, at the moment we do not ship to Brasil
8:00
Cuenta esta el precio de los escapes
you can see the pricing here: tstindustries.com/Toce-T-Slash-Exhaust-Ducati-848-1098-1198.html
Can u fit this in Yamaha r6 . 2014 model 😨
Unfortunately no you cannot.
TSTindustries I thaught u won't reply bt u did . Thank u 😊 . Love from Nepal ❤
It sounds and looks amazing; but what about the license plate?
We installed our Fender Eliminator in a separate video. Please follow the link below to watch the installation of that product on this bike:
ruclips.net/video/Z9d4o2ZU_lw/видео.html
Nice sounding exhaust but you couldnt have waited for the poor blokes pimple to go down?
I might have to buy one of these exhausts.
Those pipes would shred leather. Safety?
Ducati Drew I do not know what you are getting at. When does leather come in contact with the exhaust?
TSTindustries During an accident. Would it not be better to round the edges? You've literally created large hypodermic needles that would gouge tissue out. Like pointed noses on surfboards.
Ducati Drew I think that you are assuming that the tips are ground to a point. In fact the edges meeting the face and wall of the tubes are machines smooth and there is no sharp edge. If you manage to crash your bike in a way that your leathers and/or body make contact with your exhaust you probably will have bigger problems than the exhaust.
TSTindustries Touche'. Just had portion of my calf gouged out on an ATC..very unpleasant.
So like do I literally have to install these myself cause I don't want to mess up my bike and I'd rather take it to a shop and where a pro can install
You can feel free to take your bike to a shop and have them install it but we feel as if our installation video is a huge help for our customers to install it themselves.
TSTindustries yes and ik that's why you do the videos but Im just asking incase I don't have the video and with my luck I might mess up still
As if my 1198 doesn't make my ears cry enough!!
it doesnt have v4. but it sounds like a v4
Nothing comes close to Termignoni
Mv agusta have a similar stock exhaust and sounds better.
Can anybody explain to me why a toce slip-on cost over $1,000 lol. Don't get me wrong my 848 wil sound amazing but s*** it's a f****** slip-on. Awesome sound and look though
Sounds good but dont like the look
I love the look
I find it looks stupid with giant mufflers hanging off the back
Wanna be MV
Where is his license plate? Gonna get pulled for that,and the extra loud pipe will make him stand out to cops. It ain't a Harley,they love screwing with sport bikes.
We had a go-pro camera mounted in place of the license plate because we were getting a few camera angle shots simultaneously. We know the cops in our town and they know we do videos for our company so they leave us be.
Wow...4 exhaust tips from a 2 cylinder bike.
Well, poseurs gonna pose. Dat's for true!
I don't know why you are directing this comment at us. People like this exhaust and they buy it. We put a lot of time, effort and money into making a video that shows these people how to install the parts. Why are we getting flack for the design of something we didn't make?
Also, 4 cylinder bikes usually have one exhaust tip so what exactly are you trying to prove?
@@TSTindustries It's a public forum for providing comments...you're being rather 'sensitive', no? It's my opinion on the 'product'...try not to melt.
To me, Toce look appropriate on older CBRs, R1s with under tail exhausts. In those apprications, they both look and sound OK.
Having owned multiple Ducatis, Arrow/Termis sound/perform best when set up with one can per cylinder and not split (cat removed, complete exhaust system)...pricey but well worth it.
Quad Tip Toce 'slip-ons' on an L-Twin Ducati reminds me of teen 'Ricer Boys' putting dual chrome exhaust tips on their stone stock Honda Civic Sedan and thinking that they've 'done something' to 'improve' their car. Hence, my use of the term 'poseur'. It's a rather appropriate analogy imho.
Perhaps some may think that a Quad Tip Toce slip on would look great on a 3 cylinder MV Brutale...not me. Hey, to each their own...
I hope that this clarifies my original comment for you and that you now 'feel' better and less 'triggered'...Peace.
Dj m
Alhamdulillah :)
compliments, it now sounds like a scooter :|
Carlovfx I want to see these scooters you ride that sound like this.
TSTindustries Don't get me wrong, i love almost all your products and I also very angry because i can't find them here in Italy. For example I would like to buy the tail lights for my 1098S but i can't find them here.
The reason for my comment is very simple: your exhaust is incredibly good looking but comparing it with the stock Termignoni Carbon you lose on the sound side.
It's a thing for real ducatists: Ducati works incredibly well with Termignoni both on the sound side and the performance side, expecially when paired with a Ducati Corse CU.
Said that, the sound at the end of the video is no more the sound of a 1098 (your minimum is also very high, Ducatis usually have to be set very low, even lower than the factory default) with stock Termignoni and for a passionate italian ducatist like me it's important.
Kudos for the style but I think the TOCE is better on 4 cylinders bikes.
Since I am here, where can i buy the tail lights in Europe?
Carlovfx Thanks for voicing your opinion. Like with any part, there will be people that like the design, and then there will be those that do not. It is incredibly difficult to appeal to everyone, especially a purist. These exhausts typically appeal to people who like to make a lot of noise and be noticed. There is a saying here in the USA (land of the Harley): Loud pipes save lives.
We have had requests from several UK based distributors to become our dealer. Unfortunately at this time we prefer to deal direct to the end user so you will not find a local distributor. We can get you set up with one of the taillights and ship it right to your door if you would like. If you are ok going that route then please check out our website.
TSTindustries going to your website right now to shop for taillights, but i am afraid of shipping costs from USA :/
We keep the costs reasonable. Please also consider that you will likely have to pay VAT and duties.
These don't belong on a Ducati. Toce, loved by those that pimp, stretch, lower and ride in straight lines....
you mean to tell me 4 little pipes cost almost as much as ohlins suspension unit, which actually has science behind it ? what are you smoking, people, this is 500 $ max
Tell that to the manufacturer, bud. We simply retail them.
LOL a statement of pure Junk
greenmarine5 What are you referring to, the flow of the instructions in the video, the production quality, or just the parts?
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