I like the idea of using carbon tow as just a surface layer on parts that don't need the strength of forged carbon. You get the look of forged carbon without the mold and workholding complexity, and also on a real carbon part.
(Forged carbon is less strong than regular twills, it is just beneficial in cost for production, and offers more compatibility for awkward shapes especially on smaller parts. It's also lighter for the same volume so it's good for non-structural or partially-structural parts that don't need the extreme properties of regular CF)
@@icehawk3442 forged carbon can be weaker or stronger than twill or weave, depending on use case and manufacturing. The randomly oriented strands are incredible for small, densely packed, complex shapes. Not so much for large, thin, or flat pieces, where the benefit of long, continuous fibers would be apparent. Forged carbon is made by throughly wetting the fibers, and curing under high pressures (some sort of mold and clamp system, usually. This squeezes excess resin out, and packs the fibers more tightly together. The purpose of resin is to transfer load from one fiber to the next. Therefore the less space between fibers, the less the strength of the resin comes into play, resulting in an overall stronger part. Tightly packed, randomly oriented fiber also significantly reduces the concern of delamination.
You're talking about two different things. First there's the wet laminate version, (where you...as you say, wet out the fibers then clamp molds together) then there's the real stuff (SMC and BMC) that's made in a multiple piece mold, and is a prepreg system that is pressed together in a heated platen press. Even SMC/BMC is *almost* as strong as woven fiber (both prepreg). However, SMC and BMC are being used in structural automotive applications now as well. @@g45h96
You sir are a wizard. My only critique would have been to leave the embossed M and stripes in place but maybe it would have made the process more difficult. Still, great work.
Beautiful. I'll be trying this method for the panels on my sled project. Love how you taped the tool and overlayed it with plastic instead of shoving the whole thing into a huge bag. thanks for sharing. 👍.
Not sure if you have had a chance to use one but the oscillating multi-tools from Dewalt etc. work wonders at cutting fiberglass and carbon fiber and kick up a ton less dust than the grinder and cutoff wheels. I have not done a forged carbon project yet, this makes me want to give it a shot.
@@нэймюзер Ну да это точно . У него такой своеобразный юмор))) ,я всегда прикалываюсь с его видео . Молодец . Вообще у него там много приколов в роликах .
Oh wow, I've been taking CF for granted. What a journey 👏 So glad there are ppl like you out there but I'm gonna have to just cough up the money instead lol it's faster 😆
I would've recommended fi ish sanding with your palm, it's a malable surface. We use to wet and finish sand with our hands , that way it allows a more equal pressure.
First of all : it's amazing. I ve subscribed and watch a lot of video of this kind, because i'm drawing plans for a custom model. It has a lot of small-size parts, like the one in this video. Here is my question : What kind of syringe are you using ? Looks like some special-clothes bag vaccum. I was considering buying a electrical vaccum pump but your solutions seems to work very well. What negative pressure can you achieve with this syringe ? I can't see the figures on the gauge. Thank You and keep it up !
Can you show how you do it with the mold for hollow bodies with a hole, for example a balloon with a hole. i know a stupid example, but i'm facing such a challenge right now, and i have no plan how i should start there, or how i should accomplish it, it should also be in such a flaked carbon. Very great video!
Cover across the hole from the back side with some card covered in aluminum foil tape, wax and fillet that with non drying clay. Then just treat it like there is no hole.
Oh I started itching just by looking at him cutting the mold with a cutoff wheel. Used to spray laminate boats for a living one time in my life. Don’t miss that at all. Even ones breathing smelled like resin and gelcoat despite wearing a mask. That is not actually forged carbon, you would need two mold halves to press the carbon to get the desired composition. But anyway good looking part!
This video just confirmed I'll save my time and buy one.
I'm waiting when you'll start to make carbon body panels like fenders, hood, doors :D
@Joe cure a corner at a time 😂
@Joe 15hours with heatgun? :V
Hell yeah
lol that would be cool!
This isn't carbon fiber to begin with so it'll probably be a long time.
Your demonstration method is more effective than most and your video editing techniques make your tutorials more interesting and enjoyable.
dont add stupid free music to these
@@techtrip8942 he could add slow background music like Carboncitizens they are made for automotive creaters to use for free
I like the idea of using carbon tow as just a surface layer on parts that don't need the strength of forged carbon. You get the look of forged carbon without the mold and workholding complexity, and also on a real carbon part.
(Forged carbon is less strong than regular twills, it is just beneficial in cost for production, and offers more compatibility for awkward shapes especially on smaller parts. It's also lighter for the same volume so it's good for non-structural or partially-structural parts that don't need the extreme properties of regular CF)
@@icehawk3442 forged carbon can be weaker or stronger than twill or weave, depending on use case and manufacturing. The randomly oriented strands are incredible for small, densely packed, complex shapes. Not so much for large, thin, or flat pieces, where the benefit of long, continuous fibers would be apparent. Forged carbon is made by throughly wetting the fibers, and curing under high pressures (some sort of mold and clamp system, usually. This squeezes excess resin out, and packs the fibers more tightly together. The purpose of resin is to transfer load from one fiber to the next. Therefore the less space between fibers, the less the strength of the resin comes into play, resulting in an overall stronger part. Tightly packed, randomly oriented fiber also significantly reduces the concern of delamination.
You're talking about two different things. First there's the wet laminate version, (where you...as you say, wet out the fibers then clamp molds together) then there's the real stuff (SMC and BMC) that's made in a multiple piece mold, and is a prepreg system that is pressed together in a heated platen press. Even SMC/BMC is *almost* as strong as woven fiber (both prepreg). However, SMC and BMC are being used in structural automotive applications now as well. @@g45h96
@@icehawk3442 EXACTLY - The term "forged" is a misnomer & contradiction
I love watching it come to life when you spray the clear.
What is the weight difference??? Why not show how it looks on the engine compared to stock?
진짜 열정과 노력, 재능까지...정말 멋져요!! 카본이 비싼데에는 다 이유가 있었군요!!
You should use transparent gelcoat as first layer, it will save you the process of giving one hand of epoxy at the end
You sir are a wizard. My only critique would have been to leave the embossed M and stripes in place but maybe it would have made the process more difficult. Still, great work.
Naw its not really any harder all the same steps basically
Probably would have made demolding harder@@taylorjones5370
the most straight forward video I've come across
와 미쳤다 나도 대학다닐동안 혼자서 거푸집 만들려고 노력했는데 진짜 디테일이 미쳤다 난 저런 작업 방법은 생각도 못했어 미쳤다
이분영상보면 시행착오가 많아서 ㅋㅋ
Seeing the amount of work I think stock cover is the way to go for me :D
Very happy to see you post again. It’s been a while. Can’t wait for the next one!
Beautiful. I'll be trying this method for the panels on my sled project. Love how you taped the tool and overlayed it with plastic instead of shoving the whole thing into a huge bag. thanks for sharing. 👍.
I've used this method a lot and still getting used to it... nice piece, would have been good to see it fitted on the actual car.
the king has blessed us with more content, all hail the king!!!
Not sure if you have had a chance to use one but the oscillating multi-tools from Dewalt etc. work wonders at cutting fiberglass and carbon fiber and kick up a ton less dust than the grinder and cutoff wheels.
I have not done a forged carbon project yet, this makes me want to give it a shot.
I dont think there is any difference in cutting normal Cabon Fiber or Forged Carbon.
Yeah agree, I use one of those tools and a water spray to keep dust down.
Finally someone understood how to edit!!
Great skills overall tho.
Keep following what you love.
Thanks for this Vid!
that's dedication dude. very impressive
Im in love with your channel
I love carbon fiber so much that i can make all what i have in carbon fiber e.g. all of my car parts that are removable
I love the CAD construction part most. Clicking sound remembers me to my own construction in CAD - also could be Sound of playing Diablo 2
Ну наконец то ,я уже соскучился за видео роликами ! Как всегда в своем духе с юмором ))) ,приятно смотреть и поучительно 👋👍
Вроде и без слов, а улабнуть заставляет)))))
@@нэймюзер Ну да это точно . У него такой своеобразный юмор))) ,я всегда прикалываюсь с его видео . Молодец . Вообще у него там много приколов в роликах .
@@ОлегДёготь единственное не хватает салфеток анимешных))
@@TemuchD Это точно ))
Amazing workmanship, I dip my hat to you sir
Love these videos, no words necessary
Amazing job. I see why real CF parts are so expensive....time and labor.
本当に凄い! 素晴らしい技術とセンス! 尊敬しかない。
beautiful and wholesome tutorial.
Oh c'mon Mr! We need more of your masterpieces on video! More! 😀
thank you so much for not adding music or talking
Beautiful! I want to do a bunch of stuff in my upcoming build but idk that I have the time or patience to do it. Looks incredible!
дуже крто! дивився на роботу американців то просто жесть)) ти чувак профі!
Why did you remove the logos?
Bei dem Aufwand wird die Abdeckung teurer als das Auto ❕🇩🇪
This is pure po0rn! So satisfying to watch!
Can't wait for you to make widener for your car!
오랫만에 올리셨네요~~👍👍👍👍👍
How many hours was the process from start to finish with this?
How you manage not to mess up your floor is beyond me
Brilliant job. Iv done lots of parts aswell. Like skinning and vacuum bag to this Lots of work but looks good
I did a coffee table too
When you did the table did you use a vacuum or just brush and roller? How'd it come up?
What's PVA that u applied 3 times?
Great video. Cool edit
О да мужик!! Я понимаю эту боль, когда не отходит жертвенная ткань. Настрадался я с ней. Теперь использую перфорированную пленку, отходит шикарно!!
great work, really enjoyed it :)
Wow wow wow 🎉🎉🎉😮😮😮 the best !!!!!!!
Beau travail ! 🇨🇵😎👍
Fantastic work, as always, well done 👍
Endlich mal wieder ein Video ❤
Wow, I would love to do this to my airbox and cover for my Mercedes-Benz.
차에 껴있는거도 보고 싶은데 아쉽습니다 ㅎㅎㅎ 역시 대단하세요
Complimenti! Ottimo lavoro!
Beautiful work
Oh wow, I've been taking CF for granted. What a journey 👏 So glad there are ppl like you out there but I'm gonna have to just cough up the money instead lol it's faster 😆
It's absolutely beautiful!
But is that worth it?
Looks amazing. Huge effort though
Amazing job buddy! Looks great
Dude that was dope af!! Awesome! Thank you for giving me more tools to succeed once I’m outta prison!
Omg thats allllooooot of work 😱😱😱
I would've recommended fi ish sanding with your palm, it's a malable surface. We use to wet and finish sand with our hands , that way it allows a more equal pressure.
Learning fusion360 comes in clutch when making cf parts for sure.
My god this channel is slap happy
진짜 정성이 대단합니다!!!
Whyyyyyy god a Manual vacuum Pump?!?! ahahahahahaha
EXCELENT job!
Awesome I’m working on a carbon fiber roof for a Polaris RZR
thats a ton of work man but excellent results
Brilliant, how much work you need to do simple panel. Always it looks much easier than in real life. Thx
영상.기다렸습니다😊
First of all : it's amazing. I ve subscribed and watch a lot of video of this kind, because i'm drawing plans for a custom model. It has a lot of small-size parts, like the one in this video.
Here is my question : What kind of syringe are you using ? Looks like some special-clothes bag vaccum. I was considering buying a electrical vaccum pump but your solutions seems to work very well. What negative pressure can you achieve with this syringe ? I can't see the figures on the gauge.
Thank You and keep it up !
Very nice final result but what about showing it installed on the car? 👍👍
열에 의한 수축또는 변형에 대한 부분이 궁금합니다
Awesome job
Good job. Amazing!!!
점 점 더 기술력이 상당해지네요 ㄷㄷ
What is PVA?
I’ll teach you something, type “what is PVA, carbon” in google or your favourite search engine
오랜만에 영상 좋아요!! 👍
Can you please post the weight comparison of the final part and the plastic original?
No show off of the motor at the end?? ... So, looks gorgeous.. but does it fit?
WOW, amazing job!
love it, great video
C’est un sacré boulot. Ça prend un temps fou et ça coûte cher en matos, non?
Tu vends combien une pièce comme celle là?
Amazing!! Looks complicated af thi
Fantastic work, now where can I get a bucket of chopped carbon like yours?
Your video is great... thanks for sharing... but I do not ask how many hours you spent on this part....
Is the process same for side skirts?
where did you bought all products??
how it sounds ? louder then normal plastic ?
Good work bro...nice...
What? No pics on car lol...outstanding job
Would you tell what is PVA for?
Pva helps removing from mold
Sware down this little engine cover got sanded down more than most painters sand an entire house 😂 top job!
Can you show how you do it with the mold for hollow bodies with a hole, for example a balloon with a hole. i know a stupid example, but i'm facing such a challenge right now, and i have no plan how i should start there, or how i should accomplish it, it should also be in such a flaked carbon. Very great video!
Cover across the hole from the back side with some card covered in aluminum foil tape, wax and fillet that with non drying clay. Then just treat it like there is no hole.
Oh I started itching just by looking at him cutting the mold with a cutoff wheel. Used to spray laminate boats for a living one time in my life. Don’t miss that at all. Even ones breathing smelled like resin and gelcoat despite wearing a mask.
That is not actually forged carbon, you would need two mold halves to press the carbon to get the desired composition. But anyway good looking part!
you are so sharp
do you do any side small jobs? im VERY interested
Boss what oven do you have ?
That's beautiful!
오랜ㅇ산에 영상올라왓네요.
Looking gd my friend!
hello great work. I have a question, what is pva? Greetings and thank you
Super top ta pièce en carbone 🙏
Why you remove the BMW logo and M Power logo? difficult to mold? the carbon don't get inside the grooves?
How important is it that you smash tins together and just generally be aggressive with cups etc?