I was having a really hard time transitioning from 5 to 6 and struggled even on settler difficulty. Your videos have completely turned that around for me! Thank you so much, please keep making them! One topic I'd like to see covered is the basics of settling new cities, what to watch for and avoid.
I agree. I've been having such a hard time. I've played about 6 matches and haven't won a single one. I'm here watching these videos to see if they can help me see what I've been doing wrong.
You should also have noted that barbs now run away if they have almost no health left and that fleeing units are very hard to run down without horses. So if you want to finish off a unit you almost need to think about blocking it with a melee units' ZOC in advance. What I don't know though is what happens to damaged barbs... do they heal next to their camp and then attack you again directly? Do they roam around aimlessly after healing, or what exactly do they do after they are healed up? Otherwise as always an excellent video, you're always a pleasure to listen to you filthy. You talk fast and clearly and people can even understand you on 1.5 and 2.0 video speed. Looking forward to learn from watching your Civ VI MP games.
By the way there seems to be a way to disable the dreaded auto-unit-cycle according to a steam discussion: Go to mydocuments/mygames/civ6/useroptions.txt - it's about line 59: "Does the selection auto cycle to the next available unit? (0 = no, 1 = yes) AutoUnitCycle 1 (set to o)" (simply ctrl F "cycle" and change to 0 from 1. Can't confirm if it works yet though, Civ VI will unlock in 90 min for me acc. to steam.
Barbs would often run away in civ 5 if they were low on HP as well. I've had a few benny hill sequences trying to chase down that last, pesky barbarian to kill it. They still do the suicide thing as well, but not as often as in civ 5.
BTW - currently you can attack and then promote a unit - but only under a certain curcumstance - if the unit has movement points left after attack. (light cavalry can do that as well as ranged units with the promotion that lets them shoot twice a turn) (Right now there is a bug when ranged units with the promotion can shoot twice even if they moved)
informative . I came here wondering how upgrading my archer to have ZOC was a good thing, and I still would prefer something else as a last upgrade, but two potential attacks could be useful I guess. Didn't realize the thing about exp either .
I think all 'melee' units are under the melee class of units. Anti-cavalry, etc. is just their promotion class (spearman have a different promotion tree compared to swordsman). I kinda remember the Devs saying this
Thanks , again, for these guides. You helped make me way too good at Civ 5, already. Now my local friends are moving on to Civ 6, and one of them gifted me the game. Must step up. :)
Interesting. No hard data, but I've gotten the impression that civ scouts are less squishy in Civ VI than they were in V. I've occasionally used them to initiate combat with barbs in cases where I wouldn't have before.
I'd like to weigh in with my experience with barbarians in civ 6: If a barbarian boat is occupying your harbor, you cannot produce or purchase naval units. I assume the same would be true if a barbarian is occupying an encampment, but I've yet to test that. Given how those two districts work very much the same, I find it reasonable to assume this. Said boat also pillaged my harbor (and lighthouse), for seemingly no good reason, it wasn't missing HP or anything.
One maneuver that need emphasis because it is so different from V. I call it the "sidestep". If you start in a zoc, ,you can move sidewards to another zoc hex then still attack or promote. I saw too many instances of people getting trapped by barbs in the let's plays' and losing a unit where a sidestep would probably have saved it.
Holy crap. Thank you! I had no idea barbs couldn't spawn if you or a city-state had sight line on an encampment. So much info on barbs that I had no idea about.
I thought that was what I was saying. If you have sight on an encampment then they wont be able to spawn more units on any tiles that you or a city-state have sight.
FilthyRobot alright. im trying to work this out. if you have sight on an encampment to where it is visible and you can see what is happening, wouldn't there also be tiles that are visible? On those tiles that are in view, an encampment cant spawn a unit?
Imagine an area with no barbs and no encampments. If you don't have sight on that area, a barb encampment can spawn there and start producing barb units. If you do have sight on that area, a barb encampment cannot spawn there. Imagine an existing barb encampment. If you don't have sight on it, a barb unit can spawn there. If you do have sight on it, a barb unit can STILL spawn there.
Playing as Gorgo, you get a bonus Culture reward for killing any enemy unit with your own units. For this I like to farm barbarian outposts whenever they spawn, so its best to try to preserve these outposts when possible. Your own unit strength and technology become more important for this, so should make a point to emphasize Science, as well as Culture, to gain the best military tech, and government and policies.
I was playing today and had a Barb camp in fog of war that did NOT disappear off the fog after a city-state killed it despite what filthy says. Not sure if this is a difference between something that he noticed during his play on pre-launch build or if there is something extra that you can unlock through Civics. If anyone has clarification on this that would be great.
Thanks a lot for these Filthy! You could be playing but you're thinking about us :) BTW is there anyway to get in an online game with you? Any NQ group expected?
Should zoom into it, takes me a long time to find - if I can find. Also, if you have NOT explored land, I think there is/and should not be notification.
FR- Have been following for about 6 months now, really benefitted from civ5 videos and now relying on you for CIV6. quick question- when I watch your videos you seem to have some mods - are there any that you suggest for civ6?
jesus h christ, who on the dev team thought it was a good idea to put unit XP in the most difficult to find position and make it impossibly tiny? this game is great but still needs SO many UI and InfoAddict tweaks its crazy.
Troy Reinhalter the ui is fucking crap :/ cant even forward swap cities with build menu open because they overlap. really enjoying the game but the barbarians are op early on. if you dont quickly take out the camp they fucking swarm you with horses draining your precious early resources etc also not a fam of the new road/builder system. i like that the improvements are done in a turn but constantly recruiting builders makes micro management far worse. also its nearly impossinle to find the unit list and the unit lists are crap
Lend me your ears, FilthyRobot's youtube audience, for I will tell you what shall befall your great leader. When CIV 6 comes out I will spend an afternoon, possibly two, learning everything there is to know about the game. I will memorize every number, decimal point, strategy and idea behind CIV 6. I will harness my many, many, talents to master every detail. Then, I will challenge Filthy to a 1v1 fight to the death, where ultimately, I will vanquish him on the field of battle. Then I, and only I, will be the new smarty pants king of CIV 6 youtube. As my new followers you may worship me as you did Filthy, more though because I am definitely way more awesome. Don't try and fight it, you will learn to love me. Unguard Filthy! Prepare to cross blades!
The new barbarian system is neat, but it is a little bit ridiculous to have so many barbarians spawning. Even if that makes sure players have a military in the early game, I'd cut the number a little. Now barbarians at least annoy you.
VeteranVandal i completely agree.. in civ 5 the worst you had to worry about in early game was a barbarian warrior or two. Now if you dont quickly take out the camp they swarm you with three fucking horses. While you just have your starting warrior
3choBlast3r I don't mind it. the best way to play seems to be scout into 3 slingers and a warrior anyway, which is enough to deal with anything. Your exploration might have to wait a bit which sucks but it's only a minor annoyance.
I don't get the struggle against barbs, use the military policy for extra combat and simply create maybe 1 or 2 slingers and it's normally enough until you get an extra city, as long as you leave them in strong defensive positions every attack gives a major victory
Hey I want to war the AI, any tips on how to get casus belli for reducing the warmonger? I can't seem to get anything except maybe colonial war against Egypt or Sumeria sometimes. Thanks
Quick question: If you come under zoc of a melee that puts you next to a non zoc ranged unit at the same time, can you use your remaining movement to attack the non zoc ranged, or do you have to use it to attack an enemy who has zoc on you?
Good question. With a ranged unit I'm pretty sure you can attack either unit after moving into a ZOC, but I'm not so sure about a melee unit. Usually the rules seems to be you can't attack if you can't move there, so I'd be surprised if you could attack. Then again if couldn't it might feel incongruent to players, so maybe there is n exception. I'll try it out as soon as I get the opportunity.
It's a different type of limit. Units get their first level up very quickly versus barbs, afterwards they still get experience versus barbs but it is massively reduced. So you could get all your levels from barbs, it would just takes a ton of combats.
Hey FilthyRobot, love ur videos! especially these concise/brief ones, giving general ideas. Any chance you can upload more? I think many people like these more than 4-5 hrs long gameplay... for example if you could talk about the strength and defense bonuses, how they work so people could calculate the chances before actual combat, or maybe just general mid game/late game strategies (how to go for cultural or science victory, how to boost science apart from building campuses universities and libraries, etc), it would be really great.
Come on... I'm playing the game in window mode because 2k until this day cannot fix there graphic issues. And then i have to endure barbarian at turn 30 with horseman, crossbow and using circling maneuver on my poor scout with a total of 5 units. This game is way beyond the threshold of balanced. Barbarian empire? Wtf!!! Hordes after hordes.
I was having a really hard time transitioning from 5 to 6 and struggled even on settler difficulty. Your videos have completely turned that around for me! Thank you so much, please keep making them! One topic I'd like to see covered is the basics of settling new cities, what to watch for and avoid.
Thanks!
I agree. I've been having such a hard time. I've played about 6 matches and haven't won a single one. I'm here watching these videos to see if they can help me see what I've been doing wrong.
You should also have noted that barbs now run away if they have almost no health left and that fleeing units are very hard to run down without horses. So if you want to finish off a unit you almost need to think about blocking it with a melee units' ZOC in advance. What I don't know though is what happens to damaged barbs... do they heal next to their camp and then attack you again directly? Do they roam around aimlessly after healing, or what exactly do they do after they are healed up?
Otherwise as always an excellent video, you're always a pleasure to listen to you filthy. You talk fast and clearly and people can even understand you on 1.5 and 2.0 video speed. Looking forward to learn from watching your Civ VI MP games.
By the way there seems to be a way to disable the dreaded auto-unit-cycle according to a steam discussion:
Go to mydocuments/mygames/civ6/useroptions.txt - it's about line 59: "Does the selection auto cycle to the next available unit? (0 = no, 1 = yes) AutoUnitCycle 1 (set to o)" (simply ctrl F "cycle" and change to 0 from 1.
Can't confirm if it works yet though, Civ VI will unlock in 90 min for me acc. to steam.
Barbs would often run away in civ 5 if they were low on HP as well. I've had a few benny hill sequences trying to chase down that last, pesky barbarian to kill it. They still do the suicide thing as well, but not as often as in civ 5.
This must have changed since your patch - while I’ve never seen a barb scout plunder a tile, I have seen it steal my workers.
BTW - currently you can attack and then promote a unit - but only under a certain curcumstance - if the unit has movement points left after attack. (light cavalry can do that as well as ranged units with the promotion that lets them shoot twice a turn)
(Right now there is a bug when ranged units with the promotion can shoot twice even if they moved)
informative . I came here wondering how upgrading my archer to have ZOC was a good thing, and I still would prefer something else as a last upgrade, but two potential attacks could be useful I guess. Didn't realize the thing about exp either .
Great video clear, concise information. You got your self a new sub here keep up the good work
Solid videos. I just bought Civ VI and these have been crucial in making the transition from Civ V. Thanks Filthy!
My pleasure!
i was wishing so much for you to try do the sound of the barbarian campment spawning XD filthyrobot
Thank you very much. You did a wonderful job explaining the concepts!
I think all 'melee' units are under the melee class of units. Anti-cavalry, etc. is just their promotion class (spearman have a different promotion tree compared to swordsman). I kinda remember the Devs saying this
Thanks , again, for these guides. You helped make me way too good at Civ 5, already. Now my local friends are moving on to Civ 6, and one of them gifted me the game. Must step up. :)
Interesting. No hard data, but I've gotten the impression that civ scouts are less squishy in Civ VI than they were in V. I've occasionally used them to initiate combat with barbs in cases where I wouldn't have before.
I'd like to weigh in with my experience with barbarians in civ 6: If a barbarian boat is occupying your harbor, you cannot produce or purchase naval units. I assume the same would be true if a barbarian is occupying an encampment, but I've yet to test that. Given how those two districts work very much the same, I find it reasonable to assume this. Said boat also pillaged my harbor (and lighthouse), for seemingly no good reason, it wasn't missing HP or anything.
One maneuver that need emphasis because it is so different from V. I call it the "sidestep". If you start in a zoc, ,you can move sidewards to another zoc hex then still attack or promote. I saw too many instances of people getting trapped by barbs in the let's plays' and losing a unit where a sidestep would probably have saved it.
Holy crap. Thank you! I had no idea barbs couldn't spawn if you or a city-state had sight line on an encampment. So much info on barbs that I had no idea about.
It's not sight on an encampment. It's an encampment can't spawn where your (or other civs/cs) units have sight.
I thought that was what I was saying. If you have sight on an encampment then they wont be able to spawn more units on any tiles that you or a city-state have sight.
Kungfu fishstick Again. No. Having sight on an encampment doesn't change anything. Having sight on a tile stops an encampment from spawning there.
FilthyRobot alright. im trying to work this out. if you have sight on an encampment to where it is visible and you can see what is happening, wouldn't there also be tiles that are visible? On those tiles that are in view, an encampment cant spawn a unit?
Imagine an area with no barbs and no encampments. If you don't have sight on that area, a barb encampment can spawn there and start producing barb units. If you do have sight on that area, a barb encampment cannot spawn there.
Imagine an existing barb encampment. If you don't have sight on it, a barb unit can spawn there. If you do have sight on it, a barb unit can STILL spawn there.
Thank you! Quite thoroughly and well explained ^___^
Playing as Gorgo, you get a bonus Culture reward for killing any enemy unit with your own units. For this I like to farm barbarian outposts whenever they spawn, so its best to try to preserve these outposts when possible. Your own unit strength and technology become more important for this, so should make a point to emphasize Science, as well as Culture, to gain the best military tech, and government and policies.
More of these videos please!
why doesn't filthy pronounce any of the "R"s in "Warrior"? :)
Haha I've always noticed that as well
He is minmaxing his consonants.
upvoted
Because Woyas.
I was playing today and had a Barb camp in fog of war that did NOT disappear off the fog after a city-state killed it despite what filthy says. Not sure if this is a difference between something that he noticed during his play on pre-launch build or if there is something extra that you can unlock through Civics. If anyone has clarification on this that would be great.
Sounds like a bug.
Thanks a lot for these Filthy! You could be playing but you're thinking about us :)
BTW is there anyway to get in an online game with you? Any NQ group expected?
Barbarian scouts WILL attack your builders, settlers, & cities if you kill their home encampment.They kinda just fill with rage and kamikaze your civ.
I knew all of that but good for new players
Should zoom into it, takes me a long time to find - if I can find. Also, if you have NOT explored land, I think there is/and should not be notification.
FR- Have been following for about 6 months now, really benefitted from civ5 videos and now relying on you for CIV6.
quick question- when I watch your videos you seem to have some mods - are there any that you suggest for civ6?
Soon, but not yet.
Big changes to recon units/AI and barbs. after recent patch. Far more aggressive, and can even kill a warrior.
jesus h christ, who on the dev team thought it was a good idea to put unit XP in the most difficult to find position and make it impossibly tiny? this game is great but still needs SO many UI and InfoAddict tweaks its crazy.
Troy Reinhalter the ui is fucking crap :/ cant even forward swap cities with build menu open because they overlap. really enjoying the game but the barbarians are op early on. if you dont quickly take out the camp they fucking swarm you with horses draining your precious early resources etc also not a fam of the new road/builder system. i like that the improvements are done in a turn but constantly recruiting builders makes micro management far worse. also its nearly impossinle to find the unit list and the unit lists are crap
Lend me your ears, FilthyRobot's youtube audience, for I will tell you what shall befall your great leader. When CIV 6 comes out I will spend an afternoon, possibly two, learning everything there is to know about the game. I will memorize every number, decimal point, strategy and idea behind CIV 6. I will harness my many, many, talents to master every detail. Then, I will challenge Filthy to a 1v1 fight to the death, where ultimately, I will vanquish him on the field of battle. Then I, and only I, will be the new smarty pants king of CIV 6 youtube. As my new followers you may worship me as you did Filthy, more though because I am definitely way more awesome. Don't try and fight it, you will learn to love me. Unguard Filthy! Prepare to cross blades!
Good luck with the b8 m8.
It's a joke m8, don't h8 and instiga8.
@@mandu9520 then two years passed and you failed miserably in all areas, including not even getting civ 6.
The new barbarian system is neat, but it is a little bit ridiculous to have so many barbarians spawning. Even if that makes sure players have a military in the early game, I'd cut the number a little. Now barbarians at least annoy you.
VeteranVandal i completely agree.. in civ 5 the worst you had to worry about in early game was a barbarian warrior or two. Now if you dont quickly take out the camp they swarm you with three fucking horses. While you just have your starting warrior
3choBlast3r I don't mind it. the best way to play seems to be scout into 3 slingers and a warrior anyway, which is enough to deal with anything. Your exploration might have to wait a bit which sucks but it's only a minor annoyance.
VeteranVandal so that u folks dont wonderrush the game lul
I don't get the struggle against barbs, use the military policy for extra combat and simply create maybe 1 or 2 slingers and it's normally enough until you get an extra city, as long as you leave them in strong defensive positions every attack gives a major victory
I am going to crush family game nights on the PlayStation now!
Zone of control is very important to take city's
Hey I want to war the AI, any tips on how to get casus belli for reducing the warmonger? I can't seem to get anything except maybe colonial war against Egypt or Sumeria sometimes. Thanks
7:32 lol, you said doodoo.
instead of level 1 to 2, make it level 0 to level 1. computers start at 0 too. @11:10
So what exactly does the Marksmans Promotion named "Exercise Zone of Control" do?
Jaquass so that the range unit has zoc(range does not have zoc before, as he stated on the first topic)
Quick question: If you come under zoc of a melee that puts you next to a non zoc ranged unit at the same time, can you use your remaining movement to attack the non zoc ranged, or do you have to use it to attack an enemy who has zoc on you?
Good question. With a ranged unit I'm pretty sure you can attack either unit after moving into a ZOC, but I'm not so sure about a melee unit. Usually the rules seems to be you can't attack if you can't move there, so I'd be surprised if you could attack. Then again if couldn't it might feel incongruent to players, so maybe there is n exception. I'll try it out as soon as I get the opportunity.
Look at 1:50 this video. He could have attacked either target.
After the Aussie patch they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you still lose all of your movements points if you move from a hex with an adjacent enemy unit to another hex next to that unit?
0:50, zone of control was the mechanic that made units use their movement points when moving next to enemy units.
Kinda unrelated but what is Appeal ? Is it something thats related to Tourism ?
It affects tourism and how much housing you get from neighborhoods.
Why havent you produced more Civ 6 content?
Are units still limited on how much XP they can get from fighting barbs or can units get all their promotions from barb combat?
It's a different type of limit. Units get their first level up very quickly versus barbs, afterwards they still get experience versus barbs but it is massively reduced. So you could get all your levels from barbs, it would just takes a ton of combats.
I think it is a better system, but still I'm not sure how impactful that is in MP.
Hey FilthyRobot,
love ur videos! especially these concise/brief ones, giving general ideas. Any chance you can upload more? I think many people like these more than 4-5 hrs long gameplay...
for example if you could talk about the strength and defense bonuses, how they work so people could calculate the chances before actual combat, or maybe just general mid game/late game strategies (how to go for cultural or science victory, how to boost science apart from building campuses universities and libraries, etc), it would be really great.
sorry bro, video 3 seconds too short - you failed xD
nevertheless - great video! :)
7:33 doo-doo
Sorry, I had too-too :x
Man you look so much like that guy who did the "gardening on salvia" and "driving on salvia" etc videos! Was that you? 😂😂😂 You also sound like him!
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umm yes they WILL pillage your tiles, they will steal your settlers and builders.
Come on... I'm playing the game in window mode because 2k until this day cannot fix there graphic issues. And then i have to endure barbarian at turn 30 with horseman, crossbow and using circling maneuver on my poor scout with a total of 5 units. This game is way beyond the threshold of balanced. Barbarian empire? Wtf!!! Hordes after hordes.
Ha! 13 minutes and 35 seconds! So much for 10 to 12 minutes! Have you no shame sir?!
lol
WRONG AGAIN!!!!
Barbariand do capture your workers.
Thats the third time I am screwed because I listen to you
scouts don't, every other barb does.