I'm a Pastor who has Divorced | Unpacked with Relebogile Mabotja - Episode 9 | Season 2
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- We unpack the challenges of being a divorced pastor with well-known author & motivational speaker, Pastor Enoch Phiri.
Studio Guests: Pastor Enock Phiri
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This woman needs a live audience with her talk show, she is so good at it. Watching from the USA 🇺🇸
I totally agree
I agree with you she is good
pastor if u really are sorry regret swallow yo pride and date your wife again and stop trying things that does not support GOD go back to yo family
@@bevankgosietsile5956 you can’t just go in a relationship just to make people happy whilst you’re not happy
Yes she is good. She knows how to follow up on questions and how to pin you aganist the wall whete you cant get away...not with hostility but fencese...
The level is this Pastor’s honesty, openness & heart is WILDLY 🔥🔥🔥🔥
A man that doesn't point fingers to the wife...A courageous man 👏👏👏
# a champion man . Wow.
That is why i love this man
I need some time for your self
We all need everyone
That's what I like about him and also admitting his wrongdoing 👌👌
I love how he focuses on what he did rather than to drag his partner down..he decided to take accountability
I love him for his honesty. The protection order thing sends me ⚰😂😂 If only pastors were this honest. Church would be a better place.
Absolutely
I love how he is so so open and honest. He is really being a human. I see a person transforming person. Keep going Sir
@@ndilekakekana5127 very
Im hooked to this programme, our very own Oprah Winfrey
Oprah is an understatement
Amen it's TRUE, I enjoy the way she asks questions , she flows with the person she is interviewing .
She is our own Oprah indeed and her Shows are addictive and fascinating
Why don't you take them with them where ever you go
May God give this Pastor a Godly woman or restore her marriage
Relebogile's interviewing skill are on another level. She can ask without breaking the train of thought. She goes deep in a subtle way that's not heavy. Great interview
🙌
Mapule, I'm in awe of her hey.
She's excellent! 💯
Thank you 🙏🏾
The question on dating/courting was wow for me. The best Lebz
Indeed. This is to be continued
She is good in her job
I speak reconciliation and restoration in this family. That's my language. With God all things are possible.
Amen.
What God has put together no man can separate,God is a good God and what he created no man can separate
Wow the honesty from Pastor Phiri is a breathe of fresh air...
Yhoooo he is just so honest
i really respect him for his honesty. such a character is very rare nowadays
1.A fool
2. A child
3. A king
Enlightening indeed... Total honesty throughout the whole interview... He real didn't try to be smart... You can tell he was himself
Indeed 😊📌❤️
Best episode by far 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾So candid and honest. Getting a man's opinion about divorce was quite refreshing. Thank you to the Pastor for allowing himself to open up to us. I learned so much from the interview
This is a true man with no ego and Pride.
Are you dating ? Yes or No I'm dead.........😂😂😂😂😂😂
Relebogile you are one of a kind, what I like more about you is that ,
when you ask the questions you are so calm and collected you don't dominate the interview
but you give an interviewee a chance to speak his mind out
Well done you! You are the best ! ❤ all the way from..🇬🇧
You guys are very good in terms of your discussion is a very good one.
He is a very good man of God
You are right about everything.
Yoh I take off my hat for this man. Such honest and authentic conversations and admitting his fault just wow
Same
This is a man who have told himself the truth. I think other divorced men should take counseling from him. I have respect for this man because he admitted his mistakes and he is definitely coming to terms with them.
I understand his position. He comes across as still in love with his ex-wife but as he said, a lot has happened.
Ladies this a real man! He can admit his faults a d mistake! Love his transparency.
And how would you know that?
And you think that what he is saying here is all he truly is? 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Well said my dear...
Massive respect for Pastor Phiri, your honesty and truthfulness resonates to a lot of pastors with failed marriages. Thank you for the show.
So much respect for this pastor, he is very down to earth.
He is super honest and he is speaking highly about his wife. I wish the wife would watch the interview and she could change her mind.
@@godisfaithful9134 that's my wish too
This is a true man of God.
Honesty
Taking responsibility for his mistakes
May they reunite and remarry.
Me too. He's a good man.
Not at all!
Right they deserve reconciliation
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H@@hannahcabana5403
I now have great respect for Ps Phiri. You really became vulnerable in this interview and I can see your genuineness. I am a Pastor myself and I can relate
I can so relate. Husband (pastor) divorced me
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When the truth is told there's nothing else to say. I respect such an honest person. No doubt he will find himself
After how much damage because he see himself as a pastor? He was supposed to find himself first before he went anywhere near a pulpit. Part of the interpretation was supposed to reveal his true identity so that he can function effectively as a pastor but for some reason his professor missed that important part of scripture.
It's unfortunate that we are quick to see right and wrong (being judgemental). God is not judgemental, and he advised us all against being judgemental. But he teaches us to truthful all the times. Your truth is forever changing whether you like it or not (pastor or not). When you understand this truth, you will know that we are forever creating ourselves with the new truth. All human beings recreate themselves daily with the new truth, and creation is never ending. In this process we find ourselves
I think the greatest issue here is the inability to balance priorities in family life.every family needs at least enough money to fulfill needs and want of the modern life.but the quest for money to save us from poverty should not destroy our priorities in life and family life.while I admire the honesty of this pastor at the same time I think he fell into the trap of darkness by not balancing his priorities as a family man,pastor and businessman and going over board into the valley of no time for wife and kids.
Wow hayi I salute him ungumzekelo he doesn't blame his wife he's just saying he's the one who was at fault
Pastors are also human hle bathong lets also give them the grace to fall and dust themselves off and go...The Christian walk was not meant to be easy
God want us including the Pastors to be holy as he is holy, not sinners as the devil, we don't have to be half holy and half evil. We must have the mind of Christ not mixed with the mind of the devil.
Well said. Because we expect them to understand us with our own weaknesses
That's not what the bible says a pastor needs to be a man of good standing
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Indeed Gofaone
Her interviewing skills are amazing 🙌🙌, well done.
When he admitted he had Pride🥺🥺❤️❤️❤️❤️uwoah 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
There’s still hope for him and his wife. I hope they find the way back to each other
It is important to ask God to give you a woman who love God first at times she can be in the church and be possessed or have a spiritual husband and the devil will use her to destroy the church
Relebogile is a BEAUTY 😍
Absolutely.
Qwerty
i love how honest he was throughout this interview. Hes a brilliant man.
Love the headscarf Relebogile you look gorgeous
This man is so wise and true to himself. Totally enjoyed this. 👏
This Pastor is all the personality and real life experience that the church needs.
Relebogile you hit it straight.He loves his exwife but didnt know how to love. He needed time with his wife. Thats all she wanted.Pastor Phiri may God guide you.I listened to your sermons and they were powerful.May God bring you back together in love.At least you have really searched and now you know people, know yourself and now live your life.
Ps, when u r ready for marriage again,Re-marry ur wife,at least both of u would be closing an old chapter n opening a new one with ur kids.
That's deep
Wow! What an innocent truthful man of God,God will definitely bless him.
God is happy with Reconciliation with your wife
I agree
A true man and a Leader, not going arround to blame the wife but take full responsibility of his failed married❤️
Gttttt
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nothing as honourable as an honest man. loved this interview
As a twice-ordained female minister, (in the US) let me just say this man is speaking so much truth. The pressure on male preachers to get married is fierce! I can see that he has been hurt and scarred deeply by looking his family and by "the church" its rules and expectations. Men who watch this please note...when your woman/wife says she needs or wants something twice, STOP and attend to it before she says it a 3rd time!!! I would like to know where he is and how he feels about ministry now. I'm praying for him and his family.
First time in my life listening to Pst Phiri. I love his honesty throughout the interview. Wow! amazing interview!
Thank you Pastor for being real and vulnerable. I love how you spoke about healing as a man cause mostly we think healing is only for women. Relebogile I think this particular one needs a part 2. Pastor Phiri has a lot to share and we can also send questions prior to
Part 2 . You are doing an amazing job Sis 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He is very true church members can kill each other'
I CAN NOT imagine the labor for women trying to bring "kings" out of "fools", I hope at the very least they are financially compensated for those projects.
Thanks a lot Rev Phiri for being honest.
So embarrassing , you should not even publish this to the world that you are a divorced pastor .What did you teach the flock? Don't be proud of your theology be proud of God's word. I believe there's something fishy here what did you do to your wife that you dirvorced ? You seem to be very happy even when you relate.How did you speak or fight for those who can't mmmm ....fishy again.
@@daisyngwenya9082 Who are you? So in all that was said in the interview…….you come up with a judgemental rant…..pls sit down. You obviously can not discern honesty.
Wow, what an insightful interview, Pastor was very honest and very true thina bazalwane are very judgemental
Theology dies not mean socially well rounded. I appreciate his honesty. God keep him
I lift my hat to this pastor. He is one in a million. I hope they remarry.
Pls remarry your first wife . Benny Hinn did it. You can too. May God help you
I liked his honesty but I can see where things went wrong. 1. None of them were ready for marriage. 2. She should have gotten a job and try to find her way. 3.They weren't ready for children. They didn't have a plan. Christians are humans but we need to be very careful.
This is by far the best episode ever and i was dreading it Relebogile. Yhe most authentic interview ever. I must commend you for your interviewing skills where people do not feel the need to defend themselves as they do not feel attacked. They freely express themselves. Thanks Mr Phiri for your authenticity, it felt real
I agree with you. I could tell that the Pastor was convicted by the proper questions she asked and I am sure he will work harder to improve himself. Relebogile is the best.
I am following you Relebogile,and you interviewing skills are absolutely
👌👌👌👌
Wow thank you!
I always loved Ps Piri becaI feel his genuine only Ps that I used to watch on TV when I did not attend church now his honesty about his life just put a stamp of my AGEPE love for him.... My God keep on do miracles in your life and you find your feet again.... As for Relebogile well done gal that was a fruitful beautiful interview 😍😍😍😍
King, fool, child Thank you Pastor for being vulnerable in such a platform
If every man…. EVERY PASTOR. Was this honest, life would be easier. Much respect for this man!!
Hi
Pastor Phiri is so inspiring and courageous 🙏🙏🙏❤️
I feel like there’s still hope to save the marriage. They can actually remarry 🤔
I agree.
Me too, I can feel compassion in his voice towards his wife ..
Yes
I agree with you
The bible says you sshould never remarry that which is divorced
I love his honesty, and him not being spiritual about the whole process. As sad as it may be to see someone like him divorce, it is our responsibility to learn from the mistakes of others.
He’s soooo honest 🤌🏾 I love how Relebogile asks questions, she prompts the interviewees to speak
I love His heart..but is seems like he is a theologian pastor..took pastoral because he studied..there is a difference between being called and being theologian..is very good and powerful to study..but the calling of God is not based on where you studied or what you studied..is a covenant based relationship between God and man..many in the bible they didn't have to study first before taking up the call..and then God Himself qualifies you..and take you through the process..spiritual things can't be only studies,have to be revealed..and even people who studied like him also do shenanigans..and mislead people..is not about studying..is about being faithful to your God..and pray that oneday they get back together. Because life can come with some serious temptations..and the grace of jesus is sufficient for him too..i hope the wife heals too.💓
Beautifully written!♥️
i second that.
well said
The proper thing is not to be under all these people and say I am a pastor.That’s why they were asking Jesus who gave you permission to do what you are doing because Jesus never attended their colleges.
You are a good man though May God bless you and forgive you.All you said is very true .As a pastor’s wife sometimes you have to suffer for the sack of protecting the church.Because you don’t want to destroy the church
Yaaaa, this man is true to himself
This man is very honest! May God see into his heart and heal him for real.
Very helpflul
I've been watching your show for a few weeks now, but it was this episode that made me click the subscribe button. I absolutely love your style of questioning, your compassionate spirit, and the authenticity that shines through your conversations with your guests. He was so real, I felt his experience. Maybe because I too am divorced and remarried and want to get divorced again, idk. You have a new subscriber, all the way from Nassau, Bahamas. Great show! Nah, great shows!
Same. I felt it's indecent to consume and not support this channel
@Dulcie Self same here hey.
I am subscribing also
Wow what an experience I have gain thank Lebo❤
"The church folks are very judgemental " That hit so deep, having been raised in church was I know exactly what you talking about. I don't think I was judged by society the way I was judged in church. I fully understand why when people say they don't wanna go to church coz church people are so messed up, they forget that we are all human, we make mistakes and we have to learn from them
@Relebogile Mabotja this show is an institution every show has lessons. I literally learn something new instead of being stereotypical. As a man and not being able to provide can really shift a lot of focus. This pastor is REAL and that's what we want REALNESS! May your show and yourself grow strength to strength
This is a great interview. I truly applaud Pastor Enoch Phiri for his honesty. Relebogile is such a gem literally binge watching her episodes now.
I love his accountability!
Eish Relebogile yo studio maaan!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Whoever designs it knows the assignment🤞
It's his transparency for me, l had never listened to him, what a great ministration about real life issues
I love this pastor; honest and humble as a child.
I am glad the pastor is not blaming anyone but himself,for neglecting the family.many divorce cases are from being neglected if its not abondonment. Thankyou so much ,I wish many men can learn from this episode. 💯
The church still needs a way to deal with divorce, I went through it, and I was literally treated as an outcast, I still dread the moment! Church can destroy you, ba tla o hurda!!
True. Churches should have doctrine on matters. Look for a church that actually has doctrine.
Absolutely agree
I'm so impressed by this interview. Pastor Phiri truth show his faith and he's a true man of God
He is very honest to himself hope he can get it right in this love thing
Thank you Pastor for being transparent…it takes a lot to admit your mistakes as a pastor and be so open about your personal life. There’s so much for us to learn as Christians l guess, we need to walk in true love…
What an educational session! Thank you pastor for being honest in your talk, I have learnt a lot as a young woman hoping to get married one day 🙌🏽
Oh my God! What a man! He takes full accountability... I respect him. May he completely heal and find love again or even rekindle their marriage 😁🙏🏾
What an introspective man Pastor Enoch Phiri is. I pray wholeness for every part of him that's broken. Thank you, Relebogile for being a great host.
I enjoyed this interview so much! The honesty and the rawness 👏🏽
So true, pastor get married out of pressure..... Sad reality in the church
Your comment is honest. He might have been pressurised to marry but the choice of a partner was absolutely his. They didn't bring that specific woman by force to him, he chose her. Blame shifting is not acknowledgement of your failure. Ignorance of what type of personality temperament was suitable for him led him to his choice and misunderstanding of the needs such a personality led to marriage failure. Let's learn not to blame others for our choices. 💜
If we were to believe in this pressure angle of matters, then we should also acknowledge that the real reason for the breakup was the realization that he actually did not love her hence his refusal to give her his time/love. The second thing here is that he discovered that he was a business man and did not like being a pastor anyway. I think he alluded to that in this interview. He sounded very honest here but some of the things he said makes one to think there are more things than meets the eye here.
🙏Appreciate the level of honesty. So sorry for what the family went through
Just discovered this channel. Truth be told, I'm gonna watch this episode more than tenfold.
I love this pastor. Very sincere and honest. May God perfect all that concerns you sir.
Thanks Pastor, I am a Young Divorced Pastor like u n honesty I really relate to ur story. I only wish My X Wife will allow me to talk to her, not to make up bt to go separate ways in good terms.
No, I think you should be talking to a counselor, especially a trained professional marriage counselor. Not a fellow pastor because pastors (who are mostly men) will only tell the women to stay and endure all the problems in their bad marriage. Seek advice from a trained marriage therapist to get unbiased opinion and protect your privacy from your church elders. Remember this in your next marriage. Good luck
Awuyi!! Sheim P.s. 🤗❣unenyani,maaan I love honesty,thruth,I salute u👊
what a very interesting interview, I hope God restores everything he lost. I have the same problem as him, I focus more on myself and what I am doing more than people who're closer to me.
I like his honesty. And how what he says is very much relatable. I admire his growth!
Wow what an interview, just praying for the King to re unite with the Queen who made him to be this full with wisdom, just loved this show mam keep them coming you are a 🌟
Rele is beautiful bathong yonaaa
Have you noticed that she looks like Anele Mdoda. Love them both💜
@@ThembekaDludlu oh my goodness the first time I saw her I thought it was Anele she just changed her names lol but Google said otherwise 😂😅. They are both beautiful
Too much
Been saying the same thing on this entire interview🙃
Relebogile you are becoming more and more beautiful each year 👌😍
I love how serious you take your work lady....
#much respect
I know a very powerful man of God who did not go to Bible school. He doesn’t rely on a human being to teach him the mysteries of God. No single human being can do that. How are you taught God mysteries? It’s God himself who reveals. Holly Spirit is our teacher, our advocate. I have learnt very little from most pastors. Their teachings are not motivated my the holly spirit.
Honesty in Pst Phiri, i like the way he protects his wife, no apportioning of blame, but taking all his blame. What an example of truth
This Pastor gets a 💯 from me. His honest, he is accountable. Love this 💕
i love this man's honesty and perspective about relationships, marriage, divorce
Absolutely. One's truth will have to be told regardless. I usually emphasize that marriage is a dual-faced venture. It can offer pain or sweetness, depending on the parties involved. It therefore should be approached with maximum caution when aiming to get into it,
I love the honesty of this man
A Pastor is led by Holy Spirit for the rest of his/her life, not by your theology degree.
Yes , but you need to know the scriptures. Correct interpretation is essential to test the spirits!
@@patrickcannell2258 I have heard alot of preachers with degrees and PhDs wrongly interpret scripture. I do not have a degree or diploma in theology but interpretation of scripture is good. I attended a theology college but deregistered because I did not agree with certain interpretation of scripture.
So genuinely, honesty and passionately open about his situation-this man of clothes.
May God have mercy on him and give him complete healing!
Love the Pastor’s honesty…God will help him and restore his family.
Haha dead by "Are You dating?"
"Yes or No" haha 😆 Both of You Guys, Your sense of humor is on another level 🤣
Why do i have a feeling him and the ex-wife will get back together and remarry??? It may not be now but later in life.
Got that feeling too! How I pray they do
My prayer too🤫😭😭😭😭
Praise God I agree with you let us pray for this
@@ritavisser2710 yes I'm in. May God of impossibilities do it for them. Amen
@@wamellebako4899 Amen God bless please Jesus
Wise words. WE need to change the way we train Pastors. We need to include other courses in the curriculum. When i returned to South Africa in 2004 after many years doing ministry in other nations, i realised the importance of having other qualifications. I studied IT Engineering. Apart from Ministerial and Pastoral qualifications, I am Internationally certified as a Network and IT Security Engineer and a Data Recovery Professional.
Bible Colleges need to add a component of other courses into the curriculum. It is imperative.
I really admire this man's courage and honesty!
I know Pastors that did not go study theology. I mean people that had been taught by the Holy Spirit and live as such. They have planted churches, evangelise and conduct discipleship.
You right.
I have not been able to stop watching this lady since the first time I stumbled on her program
Owww Pastor Phiri much love and your honesty and transparency was so relevant for me,,,,may you heal and hope you find love ❤❤
Relebogile is so smart, she's so spontaneous with the questions n she ask things we really want to know.... Just subcribed n set on the notification bell💃💃💃💃
The fact that he doesn't point fingers at his ex wife and actually acknowledging his mistakes says alot about him ...Pastor recollect yourself and remarry your wife now you know a way better to make your marriage work ...God bless you Pastor ....nna tota ke maketse it's a first to hear monna a ipona phoso and a amogela gore o phoso this gender ena le pride kkana😂😂😂
Ausi waka thank you for this interview. You are doing well mara i wish you could have allowed the conversation to flow seamlessly so that Ntate Phiri can narrative his story. Great show and channel ausi waka.
Relebogile ngwanešu, you are perfectly poised hle. I'm really taking notes from you. You are a well of knowledge - you come on the job with so much research and you come correct.🔥
I'm binging on this channel as we speak, just for you. 🥰
Wow i love u 4 being dis honest, am so reassured to hear from u dat man has inside being of being a fool, child n king.
the honesty!!! I give this man 100% respect!!! 🤣🤣🤣 the part where he said "bengimthuka"
He's a sweet man ,he wont hurt a fly...just life lessons
Except hurt his wife
I'm a divorcee and I agree that healing is a process and not an event. Wow
Its a process indeed.
Me I don't know whether I'm married or not. It's like my healing can take a lifetime.
@@paultoday610 you can only appreciate a process once you go through it. That is the only time you will know how you heal.
This pastor is so real n I think he really needed to work to assist the family. However money 💰 can mess family.