Traditions PA Pellet Accelerator Flintlock Unboxing and First Impressions | Beginner Muzzleloading

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @dmontrose7446
    @dmontrose7446 17 дней назад +9

    I've had a PA ultralight for several years. Very reliable and accurate. Nice video review!

  • @shadetreemech290
    @shadetreemech290 17 дней назад +6

    There's a lot to like about that firearm. The features that are not listed on the box are long and impressive. For instance, the, the sling swivels, drilled and tapped for a scope, set trigger, all of these things add value to the product. Room for improvement might include the addition of a flint (and leather) and especially "Made in USA." It would be nice. They make a great product, I only wished that we made it.

  • @searchingfor6thgear44
    @searchingfor6thgear44 17 дней назад +4

    Thanks, Ethan! It's nice to see a modern flintlock that will be easy to maintain (No more pulling the barrel, sticking the touch hole end in a bucket of hot soapy water and mopping away). I am very interested in the 100 round work up, when it comes out.

  • @MrPanchoak
    @MrPanchoak 16 дней назад +2

    I have one. I like it better than my very expensive flintlock that I've had for almost 35 years.
    I've not had any issues at all with it.
    Mine came with a stainless touch hole liner, and I've shot it more times than I have my old one by far. Likely used up ten flints. It never misfires unless I fail to clean the frizzen and flint between shots and it does pay to stop the touch hole while loading. But if I do my part, it fires instantly and reliably.
    Don't hesitate but one. I won't sell mine unless to buy an updated one.

  • @Fall_Legends
    @Fall_Legends 16 дней назад +1

    I enjoy all your videos and reviews. I am getting ready to take my Traditions Deer Hunter and Pa Pellet out hunting in a few days here in Pennsylvania. I believe these are great Flintlocks for the price. I have other black powder rifles but these are nice lightweight and easy to clean when I am finished hunting.

  • @morrispate1936
    @morrispate1936 17 дней назад +5

    Looks interesting. Would really love to see a serious review of the Traditions deluxe flintlock Kentucky. 1st impressions, accuracy, etc.

    • @shotcaughtcrop
      @shotcaughtcrop 16 дней назад +1

      Very accurate with PRB and same results with Great Plains conicals. Love the twist rate! Killed my elk this year with it.

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart 17 дней назад +2

    Thanks Ethan! For decades PA has been an anomoly as it relates to muzzleloading hunting laws. Good on Traditions for delivering a hybrid that allows for those wanting to hunt with a Flintlock having a traditional vibe but offering modern features. For the in-line enthusist looking to bridge over to something more traditional, this one is a relatively financially painless option

  • @Miningpastpresentfuture
    @Miningpastpresentfuture 17 дней назад +2

    Thank you Ethan. I am very interested in seeing your first 100 shot impression.

  • @waynerobinson2656
    @waynerobinson2656 17 дней назад +4

    It will be interesting to see how well the ignition system works Ethan in your test.
    With that long flash hole and palletized powder might see some hang-fires…

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  17 дней назад +3

      Yes I’m very intrigued about the long flash hole

    • @josephdipko2547
      @josephdipko2547 16 дней назад +2

      In the original pa pellet, loose powder normally would ignite somewhat fast.. pellets would be a joke in it. Owned one for several years, even managed to bag a few white tails with it. Took more fiddling and messing with than anything else I've seen

    • @mikeclement5383
      @mikeclement5383 11 дней назад

      @@ILoveMuzzleloading I'm not impressed. I can't get mine to fire quick.

  • @Casy-sh4gr
    @Casy-sh4gr 17 дней назад +6

    Always enjoy your videos! I’ve been shooting black powder for over 25 years but only recently acquired my first flint lock. It can be quite expensive (as you know) to purchase true BP so I’ve started making my own with decent results. The only issue I’m having with my Traditions hawken is hang fires. Any pointers?

  • @kirkboswell2575
    @kirkboswell2575 16 дней назад +2

    Traditions PA flintlock is very nice. I like the idea of a flintlock with some "modernizing." As for the 4-F in the pan, that isn't mandatory. The British manual of arms shows priming with the same powder as is used in the main charge. The 4-F recommendation comes down to us from target shooters. It's a touch quicker than other grades, and target shooters have always gone for any small thing that improves their scores. Is 4-F best for the pan? Yes. Is it mandatory? No.

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  16 дней назад +3

      I’ve used 2 and 3F in the pan with great success, I was just reading the Traditions manual in this video

  • @kc6671
    @kc6671 4 дня назад

    Have a Lyman Deerstalker. 1 in 48. Works great. Sights are great. Wood is kinda sucky though. Nothing wrong with buying a modern brush musket. I wouldn’t use a scope with one though that’s dumb. I have a bunch of Ohio flint. Works great.

  • @jeffcox2446
    @jeffcox2446 16 дней назад +1

    Love mine harvested a few deer with it shoots great would highly recommend it

  • @benbauman108
    @benbauman108 15 дней назад

    Thanks for the video, I’m thinking about picking one up since I’m from PA.. would love to see the range video first! Thanks great video!

  • @larryalexander4833
    @larryalexander4833 17 дней назад

    Ive thought of buying one of these but due to traditions quality issues with thier flintlock actions i was very hesitant. But as a basic hunting rifle to get into the flintlock rifle. I was interested. Good to see this video series and test thanks . A blessed and Merry Christ. mas to you and everyone ✝️🙏

  • @sheepdog7528
    @sheepdog7528 14 дней назад

    Loved mine very much. Had an explosion while shooting at a bear. Lost most hearing in left ear but no other injuries.

  • @Uncle_Anthoni
    @Uncle_Anthoni 8 дней назад

    Looking forward to the range session

  • @thomasozminkowski2589
    @thomasozminkowski2589 17 дней назад

    Thanks fir the introduction to the PA.

  • @jamespugh
    @jamespugh 16 дней назад

    Thank you. Seen a tradishion flintlock in shop I think was 300 or so older style with fiber optic sights and plastic stock. Next to it was lyman 54cal Hawken for 325 or so heavy gun but double set trigger. Had a 50cal flitlock was a left hand made for 225 or so felt in the was amazing but left handed. Also had a T/c but was crazy priced up.

  • @RuneCarverLLC
    @RuneCarverLLC 17 дней назад +1

    Excellent review! 👍👍👍

  • @Keith-r5l
    @Keith-r5l 17 дней назад +1

    Ethan, just remember in PA. There are no scopes in the late season. But it looks good for early doe only.

  • @4280blkpowder
    @4280blkpowder 15 дней назад

    Nice to see them targeting the Pennsylvania hunting seasons but definitely not what I would want

  • @gregorybrown4062
    @gregorybrown4062 17 дней назад

    I Love having a easily removed breach plug on my PA pellet Flintlock
    It makes removing dry balls fast easy and unembarrassing

  • @victortuten4399
    @victortuten4399 17 дней назад +1

    The main advantage to me of brass is it doesn't rust. I don't have to be as particular in my drying my jags before putting them away when I'm out in the field. I am curious as to how well this will work with pellets...I can't get my flinchlock to fire with 777 or pyrodex and this will fire with pellets??

  • @jettv3491
    @jettv3491 9 дней назад

    Whatever happened to Thompson? They were the best. Never had any issues. Great guns

  • @StevenMMan
    @StevenMMan 17 дней назад

    So a bit information for you. Pedersoli's .54 caliber Jeager has a 1n27" twist. The bore diameter is slightly smaller, so my bullet sizing is .533.
    Mountain man

  • @gisconstruction1977
    @gisconstruction1977 17 дней назад +1

    There's a couple more things that should have been mentioned, If you are using pellets you need to fill the touch hole with 4f and they actually make the barrel with the same specs as a smokeless barrel. THAT doesn't mean to try and use smokeless powder just means they go by the same standards as smokeless, always use real black powder in a flintlock if you can find it. other than that the only other thing is is that they made the lock a lot stronger. HAPPY HUNTING AND GOOD LUCK THIS LATE SEASON.

  • @nathannero9338
    @nathannero9338 17 дней назад +3

    I would just like to find an inline with wood stock.

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  17 дней назад +6

      Woodman Arms or an old TC encore

    • @cams.3102
      @cams.3102 17 дней назад +2

      Boyd’s makes some stuff for the CVA inlines. Don’t have any experience with it though

    • @craigkowalczyk3516
      @craigkowalczyk3516 16 дней назад +1

      Or knight.

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  16 дней назад

      Do they do non-laminates?

    • @craigkowalczyk3516
      @craigkowalczyk3516 16 дней назад +1

      @@nathannero9338 good point. I think they only do laminate stocks now. I believe the walnut are no longer.

  • @frankbarcio1316
    @frankbarcio1316 15 дней назад

    Just bought this model. What kind of sabot would you recommend for deer hunting? Have you found any good loads with hunting ammo?

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  14 дней назад

      Traditions recommends their MZX, but they also retail them so that makes sense. I’ll be testing different ones this winter

  • @ericpennington6530
    @ericpennington6530 17 дней назад +2

    Hey Ethan, i just ordered my first ever kit, i went with the Traditions Kentucky long rifle, it says the stock is walnut finished hardwood?? What the heck does that mean lol?! Do you have any idea what kind of wood ill be working with? I saw online some guys say its beech, some guys say its walnut, id just like to know what my stock is made out of. Thanks bud.

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 17 дней назад +4

      Typically they are beech, they stain them to look like walnut. Nothing wrong with the beach n if you want to add some flare it usually cuts n carves pretty nice. The only problem I personally ever had was i didnt like the idea of the 2 piece stock. Sometimes the wood grain is completely different n they take stain differently, sometimes they go together very nicely. It must just depend on the batch. My son just got the same from Midway and i was very impressed with the kit he received. That aside those things just shoot hands down n the barrels are very good quality.
      Hope you love yours.

    • @KR-hg8be
      @KR-hg8be 17 дней назад +2

      European beech. A lot of people malign it as inferior because it's esthetically plain but it's a wonderful wood to work with, very consistent and straight grain that doesn't warp and twist badly with the seasons.
      I've had my kit gun for about 8 years now and I really like it.

    • @ericpennington6530
      @ericpennington6530 13 дней назад

      ​@@jacobwilbert1018thank you Jacob. I appreciate the reply.

    • @ericpennington6530
      @ericpennington6530 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@KR-hg8bethanks bud.

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  12 дней назад +1

      Hi Eric, like the other guys said, beech is very common, but I have seen what I call "Turkish Walnut" be used in the kits built by InvestArm. It's very similar in structure to walnut, and stains very similarly.
      If the wood is "white", it's likely beech. If it's a brown it could be a turkish walnut.

  • @adamofmass520
    @adamofmass520 3 дня назад

    Anyone know what size the Flint is or where to get replacements/spares?

  • @ClaytonGambrel
    @ClaytonGambrel 17 дней назад +3

    I have the breakup color one, ive been shooting roundball for a while before I got this as my 1st flintlock. Got a deer on the 1st sitting with her

  • @rickywagner3551
    @rickywagner3551 17 дней назад

    The metal ramrods that I had failed me. Prefer to use fiber/poly types . But I do use a metal range rod when plinking sometimes.

  • @billyp333
    @billyp333 15 дней назад

    Thank you

  • @toddvanhorn1886
    @toddvanhorn1886 16 дней назад +1

    Had one few yrs back....IMO. it was a POS, could never get to hit same place twice. After banging my head on the wall for two yrs i saved my pennies and bought and built a Kibbler...

    • @rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594
      @rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 13 дней назад

      Traditionally, "Traditions" flintlocks were well known for ignition problems .
      My one buddy said, "They can't ann be that bad" ...
      ... he found out !

  • @HawkenHorse
    @HawkenHorse 16 дней назад

    Flints: if it sparks it barks!

  • @craneguru66
    @craneguru66 17 дней назад

    How much powder is everyone using in their flintlocks?
    I have a Lyman deerstalker .50 cal and I’m using 90 grains of FF.
    Someone recently told me anything over 60 grains is just wasting powder. ?

    • @54cal54
      @54cal54 17 дней назад +7

      Let your barrel tell you how much you need.
      Work up the ladder and see what is most accurate, try different patch thicknesses, projectiles , powder etc.

    • @craneguru66
      @craneguru66 17 дней назад

      @
      That’s a good idea. I’ll have to go get some supplies. All I have is .490 round balls and pillow tick patches that are all the same thickness.

    • @stevenhorden1113
      @stevenhorden1113 17 дней назад

      Good video Ethan. I have a traditions flintlock mountain rifle and really like it.

    • @KR-hg8be
      @KR-hg8be 17 дней назад +2

      There is a weird obsession I've noticed with a lot of BP shooters to use the absolute wimpiest load they can possibly get by with to save powder. At 90gr your still not to the point of diminishing returns on velocity that I've seen charted out about 120-150gr for a 50 cal.

    • @shotcaughtcrop
      @shotcaughtcrop 16 дней назад

      Depends… how much lead you throwing? 75 grains is recommended for PRB but if you’re using conicals/more lead then up the BP amount.

  • @jaybird4610
    @jaybird4610 17 дней назад

    I would toss some anti-seize on the treads of that plug.

  • @vg-zy4rb
    @vg-zy4rb 16 дней назад

    Got a left hand one of these for my wife everything works fine but the trigger pull is outrageously heavy if anyone can point me in the direction of a way to lighten the trigger pull it would be much appreciated

    • @ILoveMuzzleloading
      @ILoveMuzzleloading  16 дней назад

      Have you taken the lock out? On the Deer hunter there is an adjustment screw in the inside of the lock

  • @roberttolley5055
    @roberttolley5055 3 дня назад

    Buddy whats meàning pa pellet

  • @larrycaro1333
    @larrycaro1333 17 дней назад

    Cool

  • @marcoaurelio296
    @marcoaurelio296 17 дней назад

    Excellent unboxing and review. But the translation of the title to Spanish is not quite exactly. "Acelerador de perdigones" means "Shot accelerator". And, clearly, this is not a shotgun. Greetings from Argentina.

  • @williamlifsey8209
    @williamlifsey8209 17 дней назад +1

    I have the deer hunter and it doesn’t work over half the time. Sent it back twice and still doesn’t work

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 17 дней назад

      My pap left us one n it doesnt work either. Maybe they worked it out

    • @francishaeusler7879
      @francishaeusler7879 9 дней назад

      I am 79 and have been shooting flintlocks since 1972. If you don't have access to black powder, I can guarantee you will have problems. Pyrodex, triple 7 and pellets require a high temperature to ignite. They are usually fine in percussion guns but don't cut it in flintlock applications. Get some black powder. Problem 2 is the vent hole. Most are undersized even on custom guns. The minimum opening should be 1/16". I do a lot of offhand target shooting and I open my vent hole up to a number 46 drill bit. If you are exclusively hunting a number 43 drill bit will work fine but you may have some powder grains fall out the vent during loading. Number 3 is having a good flint. I prefer the gray English flintlock or the amber French flint. The machined flintlock suck. Number 4 is the Frizzen. If your not getting good sparking, the Frizzen may be soft and will need to be re-hardened. Start with real black powder and work from there. Best of luck - flintlocks are a ton of fun.

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 9 дней назад

      @francishaeusler7879
      Right, but the whole deal with this particular rifle is that its a flintlock "made" to work with pyrodex or pellets.

    • @francishaeusler7879
      @francishaeusler7879 9 дней назад

      @@jacobwilbert1018 I feel your pain. Unfortunately flintlocks do not produce the temperature to ignite pellets, pyrodex or triple 7. Black powder ignites at a relatively low temperature around 470 degrees. The rifle is probably a decent gun, you just will never get to enjoy it. I purchase all my black powder from Back Creek Gun Shop in Winchester,VA. You can have it shipped via UPS directly to your home address. A shipping fee and a HAZ MAT fee is charged. I assume there are distributors on your end of the country as well. I know it probably sucks not being able to use the pellets, but get yourself some black powder and start enjoying that rifle. HAPPY NEW YEAR to you.

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 9 дней назад

      @francishaeusler7879
      It doesnt suck for me, I only use blackpowder. I understand, we are in 100% agreement. I think we are making the same point, it doesnt work. We have had hundreds of years to figure this out, there are no short cuts or better way. The better way was repeating cartidge arms lol. We tried many things that didnt last. Flintlocks still work when used AS INTENDED. 😯

  • @swamprat9018
    @swamprat9018 17 дней назад

    🌄

  • @neo31451
    @neo31451 16 дней назад

    How far do u shoot it, do you us conical bullets? Anyone put an optic on it. I am not a traditional guy. No time for that, looking for more days hunting.

  • @slawomirk1169
    @slawomirk1169 17 дней назад

    Since when is substitute recommended for a flintlock? It was always a big no no. Especially with the long fire channel in the bridge plug.

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 17 дней назад

      Its for people that dont shoot flintlocks. They made an entire new platform that has had several different versions trying to get it to work. Its a great idea but its still never gonna work as well, be as fast or reliable as a normal flintlock with black powder.
      This is for people that only touch a flintlock for the flintlock deer season and dont want to deal with what comes along with the territory.
      N thats ok. Im not insinuating its good or bad or anything.

    • @Ostenjager
      @Ostenjager 15 дней назад

      So, wait. I just realized that this is a flintlock designed to use black powder substitutes.
      Holy sh!t. 😳

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 15 дней назад

      @Ostenjager
      Yea that was the context when people were saying to just get a real one. Not because its a Traditions or not historically correct. They offer several normal bp models that work just fine

    • @slawomirk1169
      @slawomirk1169 15 дней назад

      I’d like to see test shooting with this one using substitutes. It will not work anyway.

    • @jacobwilbert1018
      @jacobwilbert1018 15 дней назад

      @slawomirk1169
      Ethans gonna run it, we will see. They sell it as a pellet rifle, i have never seen them work with pellets.

  • @NemoVir
    @NemoVir 13 дней назад

    I’m sorry, who is the manufacturer of this rifle? 😂

  • @alvinalldred-eg7ns
    @alvinalldred-eg7ns 13 дней назад

    Don’t like the cheap trigger guard preferably the long older looking trigger guard this is a deal breaker for me

  • @dennismcatee1313
    @dennismcatee1313 9 дней назад

    Drilled and tapped for a scope on a flintlock. Only my opinion, but if you want a scope don't go with a flintlock.

  • @leonardzydowicz3480
    @leonardzydowicz3480 16 дней назад

    Good luck hiding how much priming powder with pellets you have to use.

  • @adkennedy0352
    @adkennedy0352 17 дней назад

    Just my 2 cents when it comes to twist rates, 1-48 is the weirdest in my experience. For my guns with 1-48 barrels, round ball won’t group with more than 65 grains and conical a need at minimum 85. If you know you want round ball buy a slower 1-60 gun. If you want to use conicals for hunting, try to find a faster 1-28 gun. Even the faster twists will shoot round ball reasonably well but you will have to use a smaller charge of powder, around 50 grains for a .50 caliber.

    • @shotcaughtcrop
      @shotcaughtcrop 16 дней назад

      Huh?? 1:48 IS the in-between twist. Manufactured guns do this to accommodate both PRB and conicals. You suggesting two guns with different twists isn’t helpful at all. The twist rate is much more a factor than grain amount.

    • @MTLeadSlanger
      @MTLeadSlanger 16 дней назад

      @@shotcaughtcropHe obviously knows the effect of twist rates, he just did a whole write up. I’ve experienced what he’s saying. The hybrid, or “in between” twists have a tendency to be picky.
      They will shoot PRB and conicals, yes, however, the faster the twist, the lower your charge for PRB will usually be. You don’t want to overspin those balls. For example, my 1:66 twist likes 80gr of FFF while my 1:32 (weird one I know), likes only 60gr FFF. And the opposite for conicals. The 1:66 wants a HEAVY charge, while a faster twist will usually act nicely with moderate charges.
      He’s just saying that hybrid twists aren’t great at either, so you should figure out what you want to shoot and pick a rifle that accommodates that.

  • @bigtrucklittlerv7969
    @bigtrucklittlerv7969 17 дней назад

    BS flintlock just to market to flint hunting. #FDJT

  • @improman1
    @improman1 17 дней назад

    soft steel barrels good luck

  • @fromthefarmvideos6411
    @fromthefarmvideos6411 17 дней назад +1

    Lost me at Made in Spain.....

    • @MTLeadSlanger
      @MTLeadSlanger 16 дней назад

      I’ve shot lots of Spanish made rifles that shot perfectly fine. Do I prefer my custom guns? Yeah. But is it nice to have a decent shooter less than 1/4 the cost? Sure is.

  • @olskool3967
    @olskool3967 17 дней назад +11

    if you are thinking about a flintlock, get a real one!

    • @RuneCarverLLC
      @RuneCarverLLC 17 дней назад +13

      It is a real one, it's not fake in any way, it's not plastic and meets all the states hunting laws where it can be used... it's just modernized as has been the common practice that brought us to the current designs.

    • @DavidHBurkart
      @DavidHBurkart 17 дней назад +6

      The cost may be prohibitive to many looking to check out authentic replica flintlock rifles. This is a way to introduce others to the sport without breaking their bank account

    • @olskool3967
      @olskool3967 17 дней назад

      well, the thing is save your money up to get a good representation of a period correct one. you will be way more satisfied in the end,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    • @m73m95
      @m73m95 17 дней назад +3

      ​@@olskool3967 What do you recommend? And, other than aesthetics, what are the advantages of getting one that just "look" period correct, vs this one that might not look pleasing, but I'm sure works just fine?

    • @Ostenjager
      @Ostenjager 17 дней назад +10

      Comments like this serve to dissuade people from getting into muzzleloading in the first place. There is no shame in buying a production rifle. If that shooter then decides that they enjoy shooting flintlocks, then they can set aside funds for something fancier. Besides, if you do something stupid with a production gun (say, improper cleaning and storage), then at least you’re not harming a more expensive gun.

  • @jacobwilbert1018
    @jacobwilbert1018 17 дней назад

    Im excited to see your range review. People are very hot n cold on if these things work. My families example does not but this is a different model.
    I would like to see them work it out and how it compares to a BP flintlock.
    😬🫣👍👍