Can a USED Tesla do everything a NEW tesla can? | The answer will surprise you!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In this video we discuss if a used Tesla can do all of the same things as a new tesla. For this purpose of this video I will be discussing 2017 Tesla's and newer. We will discuss the features available on used Teslas and compare them to new Teslas.
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I just picked up a used 2018 P100D model s with 55,500 miles on it, full self driving beta and the arachnid 21 inch wheels on it for $42,600. This same car brand new in 2018 retailed at $135,000. Add on the FSD for $15,000 and the wheels for $5,500 and after tax the total cost was over $165,000 and I paid about 1 quarter of that price. I actually prefer my 2018 over a new model s because I absolutely love the sunroof I can open and I really like having a stalk with my blinkers and horn instead of a tiny little button on the steering wheel. I don't think I'm ever going get another car. When the battery on my P100D dies I'll just throw a new one in and keep on rolling in Ludicrous plus mode 😎😎
Congrats on the Tesla and thanks for adding to the conversation. It is a great example of the benefits of buying used. I rented a p100D and those are insanely fun.
@@DrewsReviews2023 Thanks. My prior Tesla was a 100D that I just sold and I was a little skeptical of how much faster the P100D would be compared to my old 100D cause the 100D was really quick, so I took my son out yesterday to test it and OMFG, it was unreal. The g force, I could feel it in my face. It was just like a roller coaster and I only had it in ludicrous + mode. We're going test out the launch mode this weekend and I can't wait.
How reliable has it been thus far?
@auxkiniv1252 extremely. Doing a video in a few weeks in the one year cost
@@auxkiniv1252 I've only had my P100D for about 2 months but already have put over 5,000 miles on it and so far I've had no issues with it at all. I expect some will pop up just like any car, gas or electric but I still have over 3 years left on the battery warrantee so that's really good peace of mind.
I summoned my Model S at work while it was raining a few days ago. Just today I found out someone was watching because he told me that had he not seen my car driving itself to pick me up, he wouldn’t had believed it.
That is awesome! Mine does not do the full summon where it will navigate a parking lot.
Great video! Te EV revolution will really take off as used EVs become more available and affordable. A used Tesla is still nice and still much better than an ICE vehicle.
Thanks for the kind words it means a lot. I agree more will buy once they realize they don’t have to spend 50-80k on a car. Part of why I make these videos to let people know you can buy at a lower price point.
@@DrewsReviews2023 Is what I have been waiting ages for.
Thanks for the feedback!
This is super useful, as someone who is considering the used MS versus new(er) M3. There are so many conflicting opinions, so it's great to see each aspect enumerated.
Glad you find it helpful! Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback!
Different category one is full size sedan the other is mid size compact sedan. One is luxury the other one isn’t. Don’t compare these cars new or used. S is in its own lane
Very good and helpful content. I have a 2017 model s 75 with 90k miles and it still feels like a new car.
My man! Great comparison. I’m considering a used Model S. Appreciate the video.
You have a great cadence for video content. Keep going bro👊🏾
Thanks for the kind words man! Means a lot. Good luck on the hunt! They are fun!
This was so helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment. Means a lot! And thanks for watching.
I picked up my 2018 Tesla Model S 100D, with all premium upgrades, loaded for 32k out the door. I absolutely love it! This is one amazing car and such a joy to drive. I’m wondering though, how did you get a transferable free supercharging from the previous owner? The dealer I bought my 2018 said that the transferable free supercharging is not available for my car. Could you explain in more detail how you have it on your used Model S? My premium connectivity expires in a couple weeks, so im seriously thinking about spending the $9.99/ month for that service. i also want to try the FSD. mine also has the Advanced. Navigation Computer system upgrade. The only upgrade i had installed on my Model S is the retrofit for the CCS adaptor charge capability. This was money well spent. Now i can charge literally anywhere. Great video!!
One of the benefits of buying a new tesla vs used is the utilization of the ev federal tax credit. Depending on your AGI, you can get the full $7500. In certain states, there are additional tax credits/incentives you can claim. Whereas buying a used tesla, you can only claim the used ev tax credit if it was purchased from a dealer. As for state credits, it's possible that used vehicles may not qualify. I do agree that buying a used tesla can actually be a great value, but utilizing the tax credit (if eligible) is a huge help when buying a new EV (in this case a model 3).
Very helpful comparison. I have been comparing a 2020 model 3 rwd and sometimes awd for around 30K with average miles vs new. I haven’t been able to see much differences so the 12K discount is looking very tempting.
The differences really are minimal. Thanks for watching!
30k but you only get some incentive. But new 40k you will get full incentive.. the different is not that big.... also if you buy new one from inventory, there almost 4k off.... I don't see the 12k difference....
@@n00bprof82 fair consideration if a person is eligible for the tax credit. In addition to income limits, the sale price used can’t be over $25000 to get the 4K off.
A few weeks ago a 2023 wasn’t 4K off but now that the refresh is coming out soon, depending on your area it can be 38K if you are ok with what’s in inventory.
Well all the information you give it's fine and wonderful correct except for one using your app to set up a service appointment you can only do that if you don't have one at the moment and if you have one right now and you try to change it or get in touch with them to tell them that you cannot make it to your appointment dream on even if you use the phone to give you the running around there's nobody to help you that is my experience it's really annoying and I have a model 3 long range for 2 years now services garbage that's the one you should mention point out to people so they're ready for it!
Very nice video thank you!!!
Thanks for watching and the kind words. Truly means a lot.
Drew, your car looks great! Honest question, do people now assume you are rich? :) Your car looks like new $100K model.
hahaha. I appreciate the kind words. I love the look of the Model S - it is a car I have wanted since 2015, but never had the funds to buy a brand new one. I was so happy to see how much cheaper they are when purchased new.
I have seen someone use a smart summon one time. It was raining very hard and he parked very far away so he used the smart summon which was pretty cool to watch how the tesla navigated though a packed parking lot. He had a tesla model 3 performance. I am planning to buy a tesla model 3 long range very soon. since its going to be my first car it need to be cheaper and good range and quick charging so old model s isn't an option. Though I like the design of the model s over the model 3 but personally i need quicker charging and longer range (atleast near 300 miles)
That is awesome! I have a few use cases of smart summon helping me when my driver side was going to have me step in a puddle, outside of that I dont use it too much. All Teslas are a blast to drive. Congrats on the Model 3 in the near future.
Great video! Looking at a Model S but also wondering if it's worth waiting tell the new year to see if a refresh is announced which would hopefully put more used Model S on the market in my area.
Thanks for the kind words. It’s possible it would put a few more model s on the market. It’s hard to say. The model s has become much more affordable with the increased interest rates pushing the purchase prices down. I think either way you should wait until the exact spec you are looking for shows up.
great video dude thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Means a lot.
Your channel has been a goldmine for my research and have covered all of the points I considered and even more
Last box to check is: which is quieter on the highway?
That means a lot. I appreciate the kind words. What were the core questions you were curious about? I am wanting to make an a-z video that may be about 20 minutes long covering the core questions people are wondering. I have made videos about most of the questions I had, but helpful to hear an outsider perspective. As far as the highway noise question, I am confident the model s is quieter. That said the new 2024 model 3 has been said to be a dramatic improvement in noise reduction.
You get a sub my man made rethink my plans
Glad you found it helpful and appreciate the sub! Means a lot!
Yo drew wanted some advice , found a used MYLR 2021 for 33k and has 25,855 miles do you think it’s worth it ? Also it doesn’t have the matte console it has the glossy one does that make a difference or make it older? Anything helps thanks !!!
Something sounds off on that price. Is it a salvage title? The 2021 typically sell in the upper 30k range
Hi. I don’t know if this is a silly question or not, but for a used Tesla, are you able to get the dealer to go down on the price? I plan on using my own funding with my bank and I’m interested in the out the door price.
Yes they will negotiate at a dealership. Not a stupid question. Thanks for the comment.
I've considered trading my 2019 M3 AWD for an S. The only thing I can't get over is going back to using a key fob. It seems super trivial but I hate carrying keys and I haven't had one since 2019 and can't ever go back. Besides that, I think a 2017-18 Model S is a hell of a bargain.
I have a short on my channel that shows how I use my Apple Watch as a key fob. No more keys.
@@DrewsReviews2023 Thanks! I'll checkit out.
Thanks great video. Will Tesla fix the 2 screen that leak on a 2014 tesla sp85?
Thanks for the feedback! Yes if you upgrade to the mcu 2 it will fix the leak.
Good information 👍
Thanks!
The MS 60D uses a 75kw battery just software limited. It is possible to have this unlocked to the same as the Ms 75D for around 2k.
That is great to know! I was not aware of that. I need to do some YouTubing to see if anyone posted about this unlock. Thanks for watching and for adding to the conversation!
Can you share the link which you used to determine the features of the car based on the VIN?
That can only be found in the tesla app. The dealership will have access to this app. It’s only accessible by the owner at the time.
great vid!
Thanks for the feedback it means a lot!
Someone was telling me about camera upgrades too. New MS will allow you to see camera feed from the phone app. Older MS before 2021 will not. Can anyone confirm this?
I can confirm I cannot see the cameras from my phone on a 2016
@@DrewsReviews2023 appreciate it!!
How do you find out if a model s has the free super charging since all 2017 don’t have that feature
I have a short on my channel that shows exactly where to look and what to click. Should be what you need. Hope that helps!
No sunroof is actually a good thing, construction wise :D.
That may be true, but I very much enjoy mine.
@@DrewsReviews2023 I do too, but then no one expects that he will have to roll in his car during his lifetime.
what is the year when all of the "new" stuff on your list was added? 2022? 2023? 2020?
Depends on what model you are looking at. The model s didn’t get its update until 2021 I believe
Hey man, I really want to support your channel and its clear you made this video in response to my response... If your vehicle works for you, thats cool brotha.. but the comparisons made in this video are biased and the chart doesnt match up.. Comparing an S to the base model 3 and Y is apples and oranges.. they have two completely different target audiences.. its like comparing an older benz to a newer subaru wrx... maybe youll want to change the title to "Can a USED Tesla model S do everything a NEW model 3 can?" (The answer is still no lol)
.. well... since this video was for me.. here I go... 🤣
Heres where I disagree with your video:
1. You gave a "check" to "phone used as key without opening app" to the used tesla, but yours cannot
2. You gave a "check" to smart summon, but yours cannot
3. You didnt mention that you have to pay the $15k in order to retrofit your old Model S with those cameras for FSD and if your model S was made in Q1 of 2017 you will also have to pay to have the computer upgraded (and in some ares Tesla has refused to perform this upgrade).
4. You mentioned that the old S and the newer models perform the same functionality of FSD regardless of cameras and hardware.. this is incorrect your model S does not handle these situations the same and hardware is the biggest key factor (Look up the difference between AP, EAP, and FSD).. but if you are going to pay the $15k + whatever Tesla is charging today to upgrade the hardware.. then this statement will hold true...
5. You didnt explain that you cannot take long distance road trips in your model S (you can drive any model 3 long range or performance from end of canada to the other end without issue)
6. The newer teslas charge twice as fast (you brushed this off, but because you cant take long trips, you wont understand how much of a convenience this truly is)
7. You didnt mention that the new Teslas come with heat pumps and their range isnt affected by cold climates much at all while your old S will barely make it to the grocery store if it ever sees the cold (joking.. kinda...you live in florida, so no biggie for you on this one)
8. Panel gaps... (Those old model S are notorious for having the worst panel gaps out of all the models for some reason... Its where all the jokes come from.. I will bet you 2 cups of coffee yours definitely has them too lol.. heres a 2023 model S long range with horrible gaps 3 minutes into the video ruclips.net/video/GNcjg1smE8M/видео.html)
9. The responsiveness of the older S console is noticeably slower than newer model teslas
10. Saying the new Teslas do not have a sunroof (This statement is true, but I think you should tell people why)(I bet you dont even use yours much)
11. No custom light shows for your old S... (This is so fun.. I make my own and download others for free all the time all the time.. its cool to see peoples faces when your car is dancing to more than that basic song and even syncing with another teslas)
12. (This was the deal breaker for me) Next to 0 aftermarket community... There arent even aftermarket taillight options for the S 😞
13. $10 a month for premium connectivity (Yeah, I agree with you that this sucks, I think $5 a month is more than fair.. however.. you know the part in the video where you said "I recently got an update to make my Spotify more responsive?' lol well the irony... this is where that money goes (youre welcome).. to application updates just like that one.
Where I agree with you:
1. FSD is a joke... (Ive had it for two and a half years and got it back when it was $10k, Im on HW 3.0 and even with all the updates.. the damn car will still brake for no reason on the freeway)
2. The smart summon feature is a joke and still doesnt work.. (Ive embarrassingly used it in parking lots and the car acts like a scared kitten and will just stop trying all together)
3. The smart summon feature is really a joke.. The forward and backwards function sucks just moving the car in and out my garage.. it will stop for no reason and you have to start again sometimes multiple times (I honestly have very little faith in this and I assure you it is not worth the $15k Elon is charging especially when Ive seen KIAs perform this function better).
My final 2 cents: Im going to start off with this... Its clear you bought the S for a "look" or a type of "prestige." And I agree that it LOOKS better than the 3 (I prefer the look of the S over my catfish any day lol and it is my strong opinion that the model Y is the most hideous looking EV ever created so far, but to say that the old S is better than a new 3... thats a stretch... its like comparing an old Dell computer to a new Ibuypower PC and saying the dell is better because it consumes less power 🤦♂... its just not better... Before I bought my 2018 P3D- in early 2021 I compared and drove and older (2016) S and the 3. I was surprised that the S really felt old inside compared to the 3. And with me standing 6'5" I was also surprised that the S felt like I had the same interior space as the 3 even though on the outside the S looks much bigger... My final conclusion was clear and hasnt changed... I would take a used long range or performance model 3 with that lovely motor and battery warranty over a pre-refreshed model S or X any day of the week. You are losing out on so many tech features and quality of life improvements just to save $10 a month? I prefer the faster car, with more tech, more range, more customization options, and more warranty. And with me being a "car guy," not having any aftermarket options on the S is still a dealbreaker for me today.. I really enjoy tinkering on my cars (if you couldnt tell) and with the S just not having the options to allow you to step out of the box is the reason I dont even want a Plaid today... but thats just me. But again, Im glad you enjoy your car, and happy you have something reliable, cheap to drive, and embrace the future like the rest of us. Continue to be great.
Although I do think you are a cool dude, I did not make this video for you. I made it because I felt like it would be informative for people looking at Teslas, but since you did take the time to type up a response and I appreciate you taking the time - I did want to respond.
Phone as Key - As I mentioned I can go completely without a key fob as long as I use my apple watch or open my phone. So the phone can work as a key - it cannot work as a key without using an apple watch or opening the app first though.
2017 Model S can use Smart Summon - Mine is a 2016, which is why I opened the video mentioning the whole way through that 2017 or newer models have this feature.
My 2016 cannot be upgraded for FSD, but again 2017 models can use FSD. In the whole video I speak about 2017 and only show my 2016 at the beginning when I was explaining the model I purchased.
Long road trips can easily be taken in old Teslas. I bought mine in Atlanta and only stopped 2 times during a 6 hour drive. They road trip just fine.
I did mention that new teslas charge twice as fast and specifically mentioned old cap at 150kw.
The responsiveness of the older S console is noticeably slower than newer model teslas - After driving models with MCU2 and the brand new teslas I honestly don't notice much of a difference at all. Must just be for me personally.
10. I use my Tesla Sunroof every weekend and have had no problems with it. Will update the chanel if it ever breaks.
I do wish there was a bigger aftermarket community, but I hope now that they are cheaper in the used market more mods will come. As I mentioned in a comment to you - your Tesla is awesome looking. Would love to do a front and rear kit on the S.
Regarding your 2 cents - Thats the beautiful thing about Teslas as I mentioned before - they are all fun. Secondly, I am not saying the S is better - but I have had many of my friends have misperceptions about ModelS that they are too expensive. And I want to bring more awareness for people to buy to car they like the look of best vs the price they can afford. I want more people to realize that regardless of the Tesla you like (including the model 3) if you buy it used you can save a ton of money AND have the same features as all the others.
@@DrewsReviews2023 Awesome stuff. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I think youre on to something. Carry on good sir 🖖
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Thanks for the comment!
Good thing I don’t use Spotify😂😂
One thing left out of the comparison is that a car with 50,000 miles on it is a car with 50,000 miles on it. While the motor and battery may still be *almost* as good as new, the shocks, bushings, tie rods, drive shafts, weather seals, all bolts and nuts, seats, carpets, etc. will have 50,000 miles of wear and loosening-up on them. No 50,000 mile car is as tight as a new one. Will that used Model S be tighter and more solid than an new Kia of Chevy? Maybe. Will it be within 3 light years of a brand new Tesla? No.
Thanks for the insight.
Used model 3 with 100 thousand miles under 18 grand worth it
Dang under 18k! That sounds very affordable.
@@DrewsReviews2023 2019 with 100 to 115 thousand miles. Or it's a Chevy bolt EV with 10 thousand miles for 17 thousand
@thinerj1 depends on what you are trying to accomplish. What are you looking for in your ev?
What a new Tesla can not do is bankrupt you with a $20k dead battery. I still think used Tesla’s are great but that’s genuinely my biggest concern with teslas close to the end, or out of, their battery warranty.
No thanks. I shouldn't need a mortgage to buy a people mover...
Totally understand realistically the cheapest you can find teslas is around 25k
you dont need to pay for premium connectivity lmao there's this crazy invention called Bluetooth audio which just plays the music when you get in. or if you are not shit with technology you can create a Samsung routine that turns on your mobile hotspot when you get near to the car and turns it off when you get out of the car automatically so therefore you will have the "premium connectivity" features
another reason to consider the new tesla would be the painfully slow intel atom in the old ones over the new ryzen chips
to be fair i would probably consider a used model S (along as its not older than 2019) over a new 3 and Y.
Those are good points. The bluetooth will do the trick quite well, I just personally prefer to not use my phone at all while driving - now that it is all built into the car. As for the slow chips - I did not personally notice a huge difference in the various Tesla models I drove - but certainly if you get back into a 2013 model S the difference is extreme. Thanks for adding to the conversation and good points!