Excellent video! D'Antoni definitely changed the modern game, but the originator of this style of ball is Paul Westhead with his "run and gun" offense. Then Don Nelson used a similar offense with Golden State. You gotta have the right personnel for it but it doesn't seem to win championships because the playoffs are also about defense- for all 48 minutes.
I think it's simple. To run the other team's wheels off, you need a deep bench, and about ten guys have to get minutes and touches every game. If not, you're running your own wheels off. And it gets harder and harder the later you go in the season. Then there's not enough left in the tank for a deep playoff run, and your rotation runs short because there are always injuries. I loved watching D'Antoni teams, but I couldn't help noticing his starters usually wound up looking absolutely cooked in elimination games. Opponents would basically just drape themselves on D'Antoni's guys, like "you can go ahead and run the floor, but you'll have to drag me the whole time." Nash got a ton of free throws that way, and he was the best ever from the stripe, but do you remember how gassed and beat up he'd look while taking those? Especially late in playoff series. Just one theory of why that run and gun style tended to fizzle out.
Perfectly said, You hit that one on the head , I hated this guys system, worthless to a title run. Broke so many players that still had good years left.
It's not one "theory". It's one *reason*, and it's the most important one. D'Antoni and other run-and-gun style teams have been doing the same thing and losing the same way since the NBA started. It only works the way you say it could work, and good players are too expensive to keep in the numbers you point out. It could be done in international tournies, but that's about it.
@@MeaCulpa04 Yeah it had good aspects, but it just wasn’t fully sound. That’s why better coaches started scheming it as part of their offense, but not including it as the only thing they used
@ceejezzyes06 I completely agree! People forget how genius of a coach he was especially when playing small ball. Rick Pitino in the 80's helped turn the Knicks around by focusing on the 3 point shot as well.
he almost made steve Blake and Raymond Felton all star and he created Linsinlity. PG is very important in his system. That's why Kobe and Melo never work out
Younger Van Gundy should get some credit for those small ball Orlando teams. They were like 3&D the team, doing it with good but not elite guys, save for Dwight.
SAS ruined this man's reputation and i freaken hate that he talks trash about him every time he talks about him. I don't understand why he hates dantoni. Dantoni was REVOLUTIONARY.
His show is just kinda yelling and drama and hollow theatrics, and tv hosts like him don't seem to care who they trash, as long as it draws a crowd they can sell to advertisers
Real fans know. Those are the same guys that act like Harden wasn't amazing on the rockets. They would Habs won prob 2 chips if not for the KD Warriors
@@xXryanleifursonXx Yeah I was thinking 'who is 'he' and 'him' in these sentences .Anyways ESPN in general is a cesspit when it comes to discussing sports. They turn everything into drama rather than a sport.
He never won a championship because he ignored defense. I laughed when he said he felt vindicated when the Warriors won. Hey Mike, the Warriors were a top 2 defense.
And the rockets were 6.Mike wasn’t a defensive coach this why your coaching staff come in handy.The ultimate reason they lost is inevitable.The cheating ass warriors.
@@goldnarms435 Yeah you're right. The story was always that they were a bad defensive team but they were always objectively a middle of the road to good defensive team. ESPN types like to shout 'bad defensive' but there were always like 15 teams worse at defense.
That's the narrative but it's actually that he didn't take his offense far enough. They don't take many 3s compared to modern teams. Also, Nash was underutilized as a shooter. His fg% was crazy. I think only he and Jordan were the only franchise guards in the modern era hat shot around 50% lifetime. I guess you can throw Baron Davis in there if you consider him a franchise player
2004-05 was also the first season in which handchecking and forearm checking were officially fully enforced. Before that, no other team besides the Jazz could really run the pick and roll, because handchecking mostly dictated where the ball handler could go. That, and the defensive three second rule added a couple years prior, are what really allowed the 7SOL offense to thrive.
I think the "pace and space" revolution would have happened even earlier if the Suns had won a title. It's a copycat league. Teams tend to copy the teams they see have success. Had the Suns broken through, I think you would have seen teams playing like they do now a lot earlier. It took the Warriors winning a title to solidify what the Suns had already set in motion.
Lets not forget Run and Gun was working, Steve Kerr as GM broke it up, then after he got fired he spent all the time learning from his mistake and implented in Warrior which also drafted Curry to perfect the system.
@@haoye2413 To be clear, the Suns team was already older by the time that happened. More realistically, it was Stern’s disgusting rigging that allowed the Spurs to the Finals on 2007. ….and Tim’s dirty ass facial hair. Eugh
Gotta show don Nelson love, if players in the 90s wasn’t against playing differently it would have hit the nba then.. he was trying to get Chris Webber to play center but he wanted to be a power forward
Run TMC was the original run and gun offence. Damn I loved that team as a kid. I thought it lasted longer than it did. Then I tuned out the league for about 15 years and god back into it when I started playing social ball again and I was stunned that the Warriors were suddenly world champs now.
it's not just about the grand philosophy. It's about the details. One could argue Red Auerbach brought the fast offense to the NBA years earlier in Boston.
Speed in basketball has ebbs and flow. It was fast in the 60s, 80s, 2010s and 2020s. It was slow in the 70s, 90s and 2000s. Remember the Showtime Lakers pushed the pace at every chance. The Russell Celtics would run the break off every defensive stop, they only had 5 plays, their offense was predicated on pushing the pace and Russell stopping the other teams offense and outlet pass for the fast break. What D'Antoni introduced was spacing into the NBA. Before him most teams played a 2 in, 3 out offense. Basically 3 players in the 3 point line and 2 outside of the 3 point line. What D'Antoni did was 1 in, 4 out and sometimes 5 out offense. This creates space for players to drive in since it requires defensive players to leave the paint. This in turned created the current offensive explosion. Coaches like Kerr, Nick Nurse, Mike Malone and Joe Mazzzula built upon his concepts.
Before Mike D'antoni... There was Doug Moe from the Denver Nuggets... Don Nelson from the Milwaukee bucks and Golden State Warriors, Paul Westhead from the Los Angeles Lakers... Those coaches started the running gun offenses!
Theres nothing wrong with Dantonis offensive philosophy, but he consistently disregarded defenders in favor of offense. Even the Warriors had Klay, Draymond, & Iggy who could all play top level defense. Who was a great defender under Dantoni? Shawn Marion maybe?
@@goldnarms435 Maybe that was an issue during the Suns era, but you'd think by the Rockets era, they'd have looked at the Warriors and figured out team composition. The difference was that the Warriors had a bunch of two-way players and top defenders while the Rockets had a backcourt famous for playing no defense. What-if with CP3, but he got injured at the worst time.
Coaching style Influencer Larry Brown's defensive Greg Popovic's sharing the ball until a good shot Mike Antoni's High volume Scoring But the lesson from 2000 to 2020 was inspite having the best coaching strategy, it still boils down to having a Super Team to sustain championships. But hey now a new approach is being applied. Having a drafted and developing players wins championships. Building a team around a drafter superstar. And drafting key players and signing role players.
Doug Moe of the '80s Nuggets implemented a run-and-gun offense that took advantage of the altitude; he also unleashed George Gervin's offense on the Spurs and made the ECSF in '78 and the ECF in '79 (when San Antonio was still in the East post-merger). His teams hardly played any defense, though. The influence of the bruising style of the Chuck Daly Pistons and the Pat Riley Knicks/Heat overshadowed offensive innovators like Moe, Don Nelson, and Rick Pitino. The problem with a run-and-gun system is that once adjustments are made over a playoff series, and the game slows down, executing in the halfcourt both on offense and defense becomes critical. The players that allow a team to play fast also become liabilities on defense. Like Jerry Sloan's Utah teams, D'Antoni's teams didn't have an additional gear to ratchet up during the playoffs, and their style of play became quite predictable, thus easier to defend. The league dropped the ball in that 2006-07 Spurs-Suns series, the suspensions on Diaw and Stoudemire should have been heavy fines instead, that changed the complexion of the series. Still, I think the Spurs would have gotten it in seven, both Ginobili and Parker were on a mission even though Stoudemire was a force on offense.
I remember this season the Suns we're dominating, it started in the 2004-05 where the suns are the number one team in the NBA Nash was the MVP but they got eliminated in the WCF by the Spurs, then the following season 2005-06 where the lakers choked a 3-1 playoff lead in the first round vs the Suns but eventually they got eliminated by the Dallas in the WCF, Nash won the MVP back to back in that two seasons
I would've loved to see what D'Antoni could've done if he got Iverson when he was in Philly. A complete disaster or a masterpiece,sure thing something fun to watch
He certainly broke the Lakers. Trying to make Pao Gasol a catch and shoot jump shooter and trying to run with an over-the-hill Nash, even though the Lakers had a massive advantage with Gasol and Howard, if used correctly, under the basket, thus able to take some of the pressure off Kobe so he could be even more creative with the ball. Among the worst Laker coaches ever, and that's saying a lot.
People say Don Nelson created Small Ball, the style that MD used so often in the 2000s and later Kerr with the Warriors. Small Ball had been used in the NBA long before Mike did with the Suns.
8:08 finally someone that calls out none of it started or was bc of curry. Even then harden took it further but they'll forget that to glaze Mr superteam
15:42 absolutely love it. Finally some harden praise. Most influential player ever. They'll never accept this. His game is everywhere today. Literally everywhere. Everyone copied him either successfully or not
Probably so. That's the thing with run and gun small ball. When the stakes are high, the other team will just send in bench players to hack them. Rattle the PG's teeth, send him to the line, slow the game down, etc. Even better if it provokes a fight with suspensions. Not a favorable equation for the Suns. The Spurs have to sit Horry, while the Suns lose Stoudemire and Diaw, and now they just don't have the rotation to achieve the required pace. The Suns' scheme was exciting but vulnerable to this kind of sabotage.
@@noisepuppet Spurs weren't afraid to play dirty, using Bowen to rough up the other team's best players. Karma would come years later when Zaza took out Kawhi.
Hakeem in 1994 playoffs IMO was the probably the greatest run in NBA history. He led a 6th seed RoX team in playoffs to beat Stockton, Malone, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, David Robinson, Terry Cummins, and swept #1 seed Penny and Shaq in the Finals. He made it clear he was the best big in the 90s Era and it wasn't close.
No mention on how he couldn’t adapt to the Lakers team with Gasol and 34 years old Kobe plus a banged up Dwight and always injured Nash? Running the same offense was what destroyed the team! He probably learnt this as a harsh lesson by cutting short Kobe’s career and changed a little for the Rockets.
Main difference between DaAntony's Suns and Rockets was the difference betweeh Nash and Harden; The first played for his team, the last played for himself
The problem with this offence is that the margin of error is too small because the lack of defence means when you start missing your shots your opponent won't be. Unless the league completely changes the rules and calls on defence as they have now of course lol
@@gascencio94 I agree, huge Lebron fan but, that team with Z, Larry Hughes as support was just bad. Especially Hughes, he had a Jordan Poole shot selection. They all stood around and just watched Lebron go to work
@@Chrissie-d2n I was watching game footage between theses 2 teams that year and LeBron definitely carried that team the Suns somewhat to a degree contain LeBron though
I mean as much as he did to revolutionize the 7 seconds or less offense and how that changed the Phoenix Suns it genuinely didn't do much for the other aspects of the game. That is why he never won a chip. You cant win a chip if you dont have defense.
This style was fun at the start, but in the long term it has promoted less fundamentals in players and the disrespecting many rules (which the league allows) suchs as constantly carrying the ball. Nowadays, it is extremely rare a player has good low post moves or a good mid-range game. To me, the evolution of this style has made basketball boring as well.
He was great with the Suns and Rockets, and practically he didn’t make the Finals because of Stern in 2007, and then the KD Warriors on 2018. They were already great teams, even if he wasn’t a perfect coach
do a video about all of his rings next!!!! gosh, that will be like a 5 hour video… but would be worth it to see his 27 championships again with that “league changing offense!”
Personally I think D'Antoni deserves more credit than Nash for Phoenix' success, since D'Antoni could even turn Jeremy Lin into "Linsanity" and Harden into an MVP with his system. 2006 MVP should have been Kobe's.
The 3 point shooting was actually steph and the warriors. The pace that teams play at was the suns, tho the warriors get credit for that too. If you listen to Mike or Nash in interviews talking about this team, the one regret you hear from them both is that we didnt shoot enough 3s. Should have went all the way in.
Maybe it’s just me, but Melo never looked like he was in PEAK shape, same with Luka, Zion and Jokic… Shredded IS THE DIFFERENCE when it comes to being a better shooter over on both sides of the ball
Those Suns teams if they played in the league today with today's rules, i can guarantee they would've won multiple championships. It's just a shame they were ahead of their time and questionable decisions spoiled what could've been.
He never won a championship because of injuries. Chris Paul with Houston, and I am not even start to count with Phoenix. Phoenix probably had only one of two post seasons with Amare and Nash available
It actually wouldnt. It only looks that way because the team the suns would face brought down pace of play for them. the pace of play for them would go way up just due to the fact they are playing faster teams.
Mike DeAntony was one of Kobe Bryant's favorite players while growing up in Italy.
yeah that number 8
those nash, stoud, marion, teams were amazing to watch.
😢But zero rings
He did not win a championship because Robert Horry purposely injured Steve Nash in the playoffs.
that 2007 playoffs still hunts me as an 11 year old boy fully supporting the suns era that time
haunts ???
Just a little hip check lol
@@gregsizemo8143 Let's not forget that both Duncan and Bowen ALSO got off the bench but were not ALSO suspended.
He didn't win a championship cuz it didn't work in the playoffs when things actually count
Little known fact D’Antoni was Kobe’s favorite player in Italy while he was growing up in Milan & that’s why he wore 8
Excellent video! D'Antoni definitely changed the modern game, but the originator of this style of ball is Paul Westhead with his "run and gun" offense. Then Don Nelson used a similar offense with Golden State. You gotta have the right personnel for it but it doesn't seem to win championships because the playoffs are also about defense- for all 48 minutes.
mike d antoni would be great as a coach for the denver nuggets or the sacramento kings they're both offensive heavy team
I think it's simple. To run the other team's wheels off, you need a deep bench, and about ten guys have to get minutes and touches every game. If not, you're running your own wheels off. And it gets harder and harder the later you go in the season. Then there's not enough left in the tank for a deep playoff run, and your rotation runs short because there are always injuries. I loved watching D'Antoni teams, but I couldn't help noticing his starters usually wound up looking absolutely cooked in elimination games. Opponents would basically just drape themselves on D'Antoni's guys, like "you can go ahead and run the floor, but you'll have to drag me the whole time." Nash got a ton of free throws that way, and he was the best ever from the stripe, but do you remember how gassed and beat up he'd look while taking those? Especially late in playoff series. Just one theory of why that run and gun style tended to fizzle out.
Perfectly said, You hit that one on the head , I hated this guys system, worthless to a title run. Broke so many players that still had good years left.
It's not one "theory". It's one *reason*, and it's the most important one. D'Antoni and other run-and-gun style teams have been doing the same thing and losing the same way since the NBA started. It only works the way you say it could work, and good players are too expensive to keep in the numbers you point out. It could be done in international tournies, but that's about it.
Yep. And you can’t just put cardio them, everyone is in the NBA for a reason. You have to actually out scheme theme offensively
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There were two great teams already mentioned in the video?
@@MeaCulpa04
Yeah it had good aspects, but it just wasn’t fully sound. That’s why better coaches started scheming it as part of their offense, but not including it as the only thing they used
Don Nelson actually changed basketball in the 90's. Rick Pitino when he coached the Knicks was way ahead of his time and probably started it.
Yes!! Everyone always forgets that don nelson was one of the first that exploited this small ball mismatch.
@ceejezzyes06 I completely agree! People forget how genius of a coach he was especially when playing small ball. Rick Pitino in the 80's helped turn the Knicks around by focusing on the 3 point shot as well.
he almost made steve Blake and Raymond Felton all star and he created Linsinlity. PG is very important in his system. That's why Kobe and Melo never work out
Younger Van Gundy should get some credit for those small ball Orlando teams. They were like 3&D the team, doing it with good but not elite guys, save for Dwight.
The top C in the game (Dwight Howard), Rashard Lewis (6’10”, 220 lbs) & Hedo Türkoğlu (6’10”, 220 lbs) was a “small ball team”?
D'Antoni brought back the game that the Spurs and Nuggets orginally brought to the NBA in the mid/late 70's and early 80's.
Spurs are angry with Zaza but it was Bruce Bowen who stuck his foot out every time a jumpshot was made. He injured Carter, Kobe, Nash.
Yep. It was karmatic
SAS ruined this man's reputation and i freaken hate that he talks trash about him every time he talks about him. I don't understand why he hates dantoni. Dantoni was REVOLUTIONARY.
His show is just kinda yelling and drama and hollow theatrics, and tv hosts like him don't seem to care who they trash, as long as it draws a crowd they can sell to advertisers
Real fans know. Those are the same guys that act like Harden wasn't amazing on the rockets. They would Habs won prob 2 chips if not for the KD Warriors
When I read SAS I thought you meant the San Antonio Spurs for a second lol
@@xXryanleifursonXx Yeah I was thinking 'who is 'he' and 'him' in these sentences .Anyways ESPN in general is a cesspit when it comes to discussing sports. They turn everything into drama rather than a sport.
@@Greenfrom3yep harden revolutionized offensive play not curry. Everyone copied harden not curry
He never won a championship because he ignored defense. I laughed when he said he felt vindicated when the Warriors won. Hey Mike, the Warriors were a top 2 defense.
And the rockets were 6.Mike wasn’t a defensive coach this why your coaching staff come in handy.The ultimate reason they lost is inevitable.The cheating ass warriors.
His defenses were typically middle-of-the-road. His 2006-07 for instance they were 13th in defense. Not 2nd, but not "ignored" by any stretch.
@@goldnarms435 Yeah you're right. The story was always that they were a bad defensive team but they were always objectively a middle of the road to good defensive team. ESPN types like to shout 'bad defensive' but there were always like 15 teams worse at defense.
That's the narrative but it's actually that he didn't take his offense far enough. They don't take many 3s compared to modern teams. Also, Nash was underutilized as a shooter. His fg% was crazy. I think only he and Jordan were the only franchise guards in the modern era hat shot around 50% lifetime. I guess you can throw Baron Davis in there if you consider him a franchise player
@@mattvalin1958 #facts
2004-05 was also the first season in which handchecking and forearm checking were officially fully enforced. Before that, no other team besides the Jazz could really run the pick and roll, because handchecking mostly dictated where the ball handler could go. That, and the defensive three second rule added a couple years prior, are what really allowed the 7SOL offense to thrive.
I think the "pace and space" revolution would have happened even earlier if the Suns had won a title. It's a copycat league. Teams tend to copy the teams they see have success. Had the Suns broken through, I think you would have seen teams playing like they do now a lot earlier. It took the Warriors winning a title to solidify what the Suns had already set in motion.
Lets not forget Run and Gun was working, Steve Kerr as GM broke it up, then after he got fired he spent all the time learning from his mistake and implented in Warrior which also drafted Curry to perfect the system.
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To be clear, the Suns team was already older by the time that happened. More realistically, it was Stern’s disgusting rigging that allowed the Spurs to the Finals on 2007.
….and Tim’s dirty ass facial hair. Eugh
Gotta show don Nelson love, if players in the 90s wasn’t against playing differently it would have hit the nba then.. he was trying to get Chris Webber to play center but he wanted to be a power forward
Run TMC was the original run and gun offence. Damn I loved that team as a kid. I thought it lasted longer than it did. Then I tuned out the league for about 15 years and god back into it when I started playing social ball again and I was stunned that the Warriors were suddenly world champs now.
90s and 2000s were the best era of the NBA basketball.
Not really
@@IllMatic97so which era was better?
I’m still Gonna watch it but he wasn’t the first. Maybe don Nelson. Run tmc 2:05
Absolutely love the attention to detail in this video!
Paul Westhead brought the fast offense to the NBA years earlier in Denver.
it's not just about the grand philosophy. It's about the details. One could argue Red Auerbach brought the fast offense to the NBA years earlier in Boston.
The nba was always fast before the. Detroit Bad Boys started to grind everyone/everything down.
Speed in basketball has ebbs and flow. It was fast in the 60s, 80s, 2010s and 2020s. It was slow in the 70s, 90s and 2000s. Remember the Showtime Lakers pushed the pace at every chance. The Russell Celtics would run the break off every defensive stop, they only had 5 plays, their offense was predicated on pushing the pace and Russell stopping the other teams offense and outlet pass for the fast break.
What D'Antoni introduced was spacing into the NBA. Before him most teams played a 2 in, 3 out offense. Basically 3 players in the 3 point line and 2 outside of the 3 point line. What D'Antoni did was 1 in, 4 out and sometimes 5 out offense. This creates space for players to drive in since it requires defensive players to leave the paint. This in turned created the current offensive explosion. Coaches like Kerr, Nick Nurse, Mike Malone and Joe Mazzzula built upon his concepts.
Paul westhead was just catching up to what he wouldn't do in L.A
Sure, but it wasn't coupled with a high volume of 3pt shooting.
I ❤ it, well explained.
Keep doing more meaningful and well documented content and more power to you man...😊👍
Before Mike D'antoni... There was Doug Moe from the Denver Nuggets... Don Nelson from the Milwaukee bucks and Golden State Warriors, Paul Westhead from the Los Angeles Lakers... Those coaches started the running gun offenses!
But don’t forget Red Auerbach who invented the run and gun offense during the Celtics dynasty of the late 1950s to 1960s.
Mike, Dan and Toni is my favorite big 3 of all time!
He made his team great in offense. But his team could not make adjustments for tough games.
Theres nothing wrong with Dantonis offensive philosophy, but he consistently disregarded defenders in favor of offense. Even the Warriors had Klay, Draymond, & Iggy who could all play top level defense.
Who was a great defender under Dantoni? Shawn Marion maybe?
I kinda prefer grit and grind, scoring became valuable and proper clock managment
Raja Bell then limited Kobe. 😂
Marion was an amazing defender. But you are spot on elsewhere. Raja was a good defender too.
Also, player development had to catch up with Danoni's system.
@@goldnarms435 Maybe that was an issue during the Suns era, but you'd think by the Rockets era, they'd have looked at the Warriors and figured out team composition. The difference was that the Warriors had a bunch of two-way players and top defenders while the Rockets had a backcourt famous for playing no defense. What-if with CP3, but he got injured at the worst time.
Do some more research. You will find Don Nelson was doing this way before d'antoni
About time we appreciated Mike D’Antoni!
Coaching style Influencer
Larry Brown's defensive
Greg Popovic's sharing the ball until a good shot
Mike Antoni's High volume Scoring
But the lesson from 2000 to 2020 was inspite having the best coaching strategy, it still boils down to having a Super Team to sustain championships.
But hey now a new approach is being applied. Having a drafted and developing players wins championships. Building a team around a drafter superstar. And drafting key players and signing role players.
Great breakdown. Super interesting
Most revolutionary coach in nba history
Nice video. Please make Steve Kerr next !!
Doug Moe of the '80s Nuggets implemented a run-and-gun offense that took advantage of the altitude; he also unleashed George Gervin's offense on the Spurs and made the ECSF in '78 and the ECF in '79 (when San Antonio was still in the East post-merger). His teams hardly played any defense, though. The influence of the bruising style of the Chuck Daly Pistons and the Pat Riley Knicks/Heat overshadowed offensive innovators like Moe, Don Nelson, and Rick Pitino. The problem with a run-and-gun system is that once adjustments are made over a playoff series, and the game slows down, executing in the halfcourt both on offense and defense becomes critical. The players that allow a team to play fast also become liabilities on defense. Like Jerry Sloan's Utah teams, D'Antoni's teams didn't have an additional gear to ratchet up during the playoffs, and their style of play became quite predictable, thus easier to defend. The league dropped the ball in that 2006-07 Spurs-Suns series, the suspensions on Diaw and Stoudemire should have been heavy fines instead, that changed the complexion of the series. Still, I think the Spurs would have gotten it in seven, both Ginobili and Parker were on a mission even though Stoudemire was a force on offense.
Dantoni stole the idea from Don Nelson
Run TMC
And nellie got it from red
good video but no D'Antoni team ever made the NBA Finals, let alone win a title. That has to count for sth about the systems themselves.
I remember this season the Suns we're dominating, it started in the 2004-05 where the suns are the number one team in the NBA Nash was the MVP but they got eliminated in the WCF by the Spurs, then the following season 2005-06 where the lakers choked a 3-1 playoff lead in the first round vs the Suns but eventually they got eliminated by the Dallas in the WCF, Nash won the MVP back to back in that two seasons
I would've loved to see what D'Antoni could've done if he got Iverson when he was in Philly. A complete disaster or a masterpiece,sure thing something fun to watch
There was a lot of details I never knew about.
He certainly broke the Lakers. Trying to make Pao Gasol a catch and shoot jump shooter and trying to run with an over-the-hill Nash, even though the Lakers had a massive advantage with Gasol and Howard, if used correctly, under the basket, thus able to take some of the pressure off Kobe so he could be even more creative with the ball. Among the worst Laker coaches ever, and that's saying a lot.
It wasn’t good, but don’t act like that team was really fitted well to begin with. He just didn’t do well with it after the fact
Indiana Fever plays this way...
People say Don Nelson created Small Ball, the style that MD used so often in the 2000s and later Kerr with the Warriors. Small Ball had been used in the NBA long before Mike did with the Suns.
Mike D. Anthony: He looks like Pringles Man!
As an ATL HAWKS GUY I FORGOT THAT JOE JOHNSONWAS ON THE SUNS...
THAT DUDE IS NASTY
This video is the best example of recency bias. Don Nelson did this before D'Antoni.
Plus he wasn't that good.....
I THINK IT'S REALLY THE PIECES THAT YOU HAVE AND NOT MUCH ON COACHING
2:13 Cam Thomas
7:51 That's a big collar.
Ppl who didnt live thru this era truly cant appreciate how amazing Steve Nash and the Suns were
Strategy HAD been seen before, for the most part.
Reference "Nelly Ball" and Don Nelson as a coach.
Why do you not have more subs bro
Got robbed from winning in 2007
Robbed Horry
8:08 finally someone that calls out none of it started or was bc of curry. Even then harden took it further but they'll forget that to glaze Mr superteam
15:42 absolutely love it. Finally some harden praise. Most influential player ever. They'll never accept this. His game is everywhere today. Literally everywhere. Everyone copied him either successfully or not
16:02 but compare those guys harden played with to curry's lol. They won't
16:22 yet no one cries about sga today huh. It's always to protect their guys, curry and then hate on anyone that's not their guys, Luka jokic
Let's not forget that both Duncan and Bowen ALSO got off the bench but were not ALSO suspended.
D'antony just put the 3 shot to the run' and gun,Doug moe was the first Genius .
Moe deserves respect. Great call.
they should have won 1.. Horry f'd them up with that nasty hip check on Nash..
Probably so. That's the thing with run and gun small ball. When the stakes are high, the other team will just send in bench players to hack them. Rattle the PG's teeth, send him to the line, slow the game down, etc. Even better if it provokes a fight with suspensions. Not a favorable equation for the Suns. The Spurs have to sit Horry, while the Suns lose Stoudemire and Diaw, and now they just don't have the rotation to achieve the required pace. The Suns' scheme was exciting but vulnerable to this kind of sabotage.
@@noisepuppet Spurs weren't afraid to play dirty, using Bowen to rough up the other team's best players. Karma would come years later when Zaza took out Kawhi.
@@eksentrysytiman I love kawhi. F pop bro. KLaw didn't deserve that. He was ending curry and kds pathetic career that series😢
Hakeem in 1994 playoffs IMO was the probably the greatest run in NBA history. He led a 6th seed RoX team in playoffs to beat Stockton, Malone, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, David Robinson, Terry Cummins, and swept #1 seed Penny and Shaq in the Finals.
He made it clear he was the best big in the 90s Era and it wasn't close.
I believe that was 1995.
How do I turn off the closed captioning on this video?
No mention on how he couldn’t adapt to the Lakers team with Gasol and 34 years old Kobe plus a banged up Dwight and always injured Nash? Running the same offense was what destroyed the team! He probably learnt this as a harsh lesson by cutting short Kobe’s career and changed a little for the Rockets.
Now there’s no fcken defense
That professor that everyone ghosts
It was fun at the time, but now the league is carried away with it. The took the complete D out of D'antoine
Ah yes, Mike No D Antoni.
Main difference between DaAntony's Suns and Rockets was the difference betweeh Nash and Harden; The first played for his team, the last played for himself
The problem with this offence is that the margin of error is too small because the lack of defence means when you start missing your shots your opponent won't be. Unless the league completely changes the rules and calls on defence as they have now of course lol
That Suns Team Would’ve Swept The Cavs In The Finals Too
Would they?
@@IllMatic97 without a doubt
@@gascencio94 I agree, huge Lebron fan but, that team with Z, Larry Hughes as support was just bad. Especially Hughes, he had a Jordan Poole shot selection. They all stood around and just watched Lebron go to work
@@Chrissie-d2n I was watching game footage between theses 2 teams that year and LeBron definitely carried that team the Suns somewhat to a degree contain LeBron though
I mean as much as he did to revolutionize the 7 seconds or less offense and how that changed the Phoenix Suns it genuinely didn't do much for the other aspects of the game. That is why he never won a chip. You cant win a chip if you dont have defense.
If the Spurs didn’t cause those suspensions, Nash and DAntoni would be legends.
This style was fun at the start, but in the long term it has promoted less fundamentals in players and the disrespecting many rules (which the league allows) suchs as constantly carrying the ball. Nowadays, it is extremely rare a player has good low post moves or a good mid-range game. To me, the evolution of this style has made basketball boring as well.
8:20 not only did they NOT make the finals they got knocked out the first round and his record as a head coach is horrible
Right? I’ve never seen such glazing in a RUclips video
He was great with the Suns and Rockets, and practically he didn’t make the Finals because of Stern in 2007, and then the KD Warriors on 2018. They were already great teams, even if he wasn’t a perfect coach
The future of the NBA is the ALL STAR game with non stop 3's.
Man who knew D'Antoni had dad lore
how I wish that in the Future Nash will go back to phoenix to coach and win a title.
do a video about all of his rings next!!!! gosh, that will be like a 5 hour video… but would be worth it to see his 27 championships again with that “league changing offense!”
Now if only the Indiana Fever can run this scheme
The aggro vs the control, damn SPURS :/
Golden State was able to do that because Mark Jackson had them down defensively before they opened up the offense.
He's like Joe Mazzulla but without the charisma and defensive scheme on his system.
Don Nelson started this shit
Wish Mike was still coaching nowadays instead of someone like doc rivers
He should be in the HOF
Personally I think D'Antoni deserves more credit than Nash for Phoenix' success, since D'Antoni could even turn Jeremy Lin into "Linsanity" and Harden into an MVP with his system. 2006 MVP should have been Kobe's.
He was robbed of a Championship cause of a weird rule that got Boris Diaw and Amare suspended when Robert Horry hip checked Nash
Like it or not, this man started what is NBA today. Heavy on 3pt shooting.
The 3 point shooting was actually steph and the warriors. The pace that teams play at was the suns, tho the warriors get credit for that too. If you listen to Mike or Nash in interviews talking about this team, the one regret you hear from them both is that we didnt shoot enough 3s. Should have went all the way in.
What he did was a LOT More than just bring 3 points shooting my friend.
@@swaymcthunder1219see these guys right here have no brain. Literally lying to glaze Steph LMAO. This guy doesn't even know history
Something mentioned in this video is incorrect.
Maybe it’s just me, but Melo never looked like he was in PEAK shape, same with Luka, Zion and Jokic… Shredded IS THE DIFFERENCE when it comes to being a better shooter over on both sides of the ball
Nonetheless, Pop and SA Spurs got their numbers.
Flash and flair are fans' consolations for not winning it all.
If it wasn't for Timmy they'd have at least 2 chips
Don Nelson came before this.
Those Suns teams if they played in the league today with today's rules, i can guarantee they would've won multiple championships. It's just a shame they were ahead of their time and questionable decisions spoiled what could've been.
“Greg Popovich, one of the GOATs of all time.”
🤔
if you didn’t win a championship, you ain’t dominate a damn thing!
So, he reverted to 1960's basketball.
They key to that whole offense was AMARI WAS SO DAM ATHLETIC he was was 6'10 and DOMINATING TIM DUNCAN
He never won a championship because of injuries. Chris Paul with Houston, and I am not even start to count with Phoenix. Phoenix probably had only one of two post seasons with Amare and Nash available
It's simple, you build plays around the strengths of your players or you build players around your plays. Guess which one he chose and failed at.
The funny thing is that those running and gunning suns would be last in pace in todays nba.
It actually wouldnt. It only looks that way because the team the suns would face brought down pace of play for them. the pace of play for them would go way up just due to the fact they are playing faster teams.
Ask yourself this. Would Nash be a HOFer with out Dantoni?
He's got the right system but needs tall players.
Small Ball Rockets Days
what if, mike Dántoni coach Luka?