Nasal vs. Full Face CPAP Masks: Make The Switch!
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- If you're comfortable using a full-face mask and it works well for you, feel free to continue using it. However, if you find it challenging, try a nasal-style mask, even if you've been labelled a 'mouth breather.' Try using mouth tape while watching this video. If you can comfortably make it through to the end, you'll likely manage to sleep with a nasal mask. When I fitted masks, I didn't initially mention the full-face option-it was a last resort for those struggling with other styles. It can take 2-4 weeks to break the lousy mouth breathing habits, and I've shared some pro tips to help make the switch easier. Cheers
Many companies provide a 30-day mask guarantee, which can work to your advantage. Consider waiting until it's time to replace your full-face mask, and then try a nasal-style mask. If it doesn't suit your needs, you can easily exchange it for a new full-face mask under the guarantee.
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Nick I have been using the Resmed P10. I need a Chinstrap that is not a Torture Device and that absolutely works and just slips off my head.
i'm not a big fan of chin straps bro but Knightsbridge make a quality product. Cheers
This is an incredible video. It should be mandatory for patients who are struggling with a leak. Well done mate.
Cheers Vik, keep up the great work with your channel buddy! You're gonna overtake me soon 😎
No, some have allergies or other reasons their nasal passages are blocked. If I don’t use nasal sprays, it’s game over.
I suppose maybe its possible its very bad… but for me the nasal pillow actually keeps my nose from being congested. When I had covid it kept my nose open all night. Just need to take some sudafed so you start the night not totally blocked solid, and then the flow keeps it open. Also I am on a constant pressure so that helps.
@@Ultrajamz I do use the pillow myself and like it but had to get the heated tube.
Nasal sprays are addictive and overused. I use to use it every day, but finally suffered through 1 week without it and slowly gave it up 100%.
@@sharon94503 I have allergies to dust mites and cats. I have 8 cats. Nasal sprays are here to stay and so are the cats 🐱
@@sharon94503what do you use now when your nose is blocked?
Hey, Nicko, did you know you have a follower who is an ENT surgeon at a hospital in London? I just watched his most recent video, apologizing for his prior video warning against using mouth tape. He featured this video on his screen and said he values you content. His name is Vik Veer.
Oh thanks for the heads up, i'll have to check out the vid. Mouth taping has always been a controversial technique to promote nasal breathing but personally in my 20 years of doing this i've actually never heard from anyone who has had a horror story but heard from thousands who have had much success especially for cpap mouth leak so i'm an advocate but i can understand how it might be dangerous for a percentage of the population. Cheers
@CPAPReviews please tell us what you think of vic veer he, as with you, seems brilliant!!
A piece of Cover Roll tape to keep my mouth closed + Bleep Eclipse “mask” = CPAP success for me !
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Way to go! I would dare to say that all professional snorers are mouth breathers. I know I was. Once I started the CPAP journey I became aware of the fact that I was mouth breathing regularly through the day too!! The term "mouth breather" is not a compliment here in Canada. Open mouth breathing is not compatible with successful CPAP therapy. You will be getting huge leakage numbers. I tried a chinstrap. Your jaw will drop down and back while you sleep, eliminating the promised advantage of the strap. I tried a cervical collar. Looking for taller and firmer models to force my mouth closed. Who wants to sleep with an Elizabethan collar. I am not Henry 8th. Beyond messing with weird hardware I was also cranking face mask straps so tight that it would take till well after lunch for the lines to disappear. Co-workers would question the lines on my face. I told them I flew high altitude reconaissance aircraft overnight. Eventually I tried a P10 nasal pillows mask with mouth tape. Success at last. I was amazed by how small and light the mask was. No face lines. NO HUGE LEAKAGE!!! It took about 3 months for the new habit placing my tongue against the roof of my mouth and keeping the stupid thing closed to become permanent. I could now sleep all night without a collar or strap or tape. Just my nasal pillows mask. I traded up to the P30I. Success is sweet. Now when I travel my Airmini with the P10 mask is all I need. A funny fact. If you breathe through your open mouth long enough your mucus production goes way up and you do end up clogging your nose. Colds, allergies, COVID and anything you might imagine have never stopped me from sleeping every night for 8.75 hours with my pillows mask.
WOW! Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. It really helps to understand 😍
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers
I use both an P30i and N30i.
P30i with the nostril pillows fits best, doesn't leak when I sleep on my side, and is the one I use the most.
N30i is a nasal pillow, but without the individual nostril pillows, and I find it the most comfortable, but can leak if I sleep on my side.
Could never go back to using anything else, so much more comfortable.
And when awake, I tend to be a mouth breather, but no issues when sleeping.
Thanks, I had my eyes on the P30i. I was having the same issue with the N30i leaking when sleeping on my side also nose would get a little stuffy when using it even with extra humidity. Switched to the F30i and seems to work pretty well, but I miss the ability to use my mouth without taking off the mask. So far insurance has been pretty chill with me switching up masks.
Great video. I've been thinking about it for months and even have the nasal pillow mask ready after watching your previous videos but was too scared to try it. You've convinced me enough to switch and am going to give it a go tonight .
That's great Sue! Not sure if you made it to the end of the vid but there's a few tips near the end that can help with the transition. Please report back and let everyone know how you go. Can certainly take a little bit of time and effort so don't be discouraged if the first night is a challenge. Try and go for an hour or two and have the full-face on stand by. Cheers
Thank you so much! I've been using the AirCurve 10 for 4-5 years now. I did well with the N30i until they changed the design and eliminated the hard plastic back side of the mask. The new soft ones just roll right up my face at night. So I tried the P30i on the Pillows settings but it would blow my mouth open and Id have super dry mouth. All my fillings have fallen out!! So I tried the F30I but even with a chin strap, my jaw would fall back and I'd end up with the bottom part of the mask in my mouth and the top part blasting my eyeballs. I watched this video yesterday, used the P30i on full face setting and zero leaks, zero AHI, no dry mouth, no blasted eyeballs, it was glorious! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Edit: I now use a soft cervical collar instead of the chin strap, works much better.
That's wonderful news Toney! You're very welcome. (P.S if use a 19mm tube the airflow will be even softer) Cheers bro. Nicko
I am in the process of switching, perfect timing.
Awesome! Good luck and touch back after a few weeks and let everyone know how you're going. Cheers
Thanks again for the info, Uncle Nicko. Legend!
You're welcome brother
I have worn the nasal mask since the beginning with a Chin Strap. I have narrow nasal passages and even if i am fully clogged, after a few minutes, the nasal passage open up. Way to go.
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience, there are certainly times when it can be challenging but there's a few options for those occasions. There's plenty of nasal sprays that can be used short term that work wonders and also, you could just have a spare full-face if you need it from time to time. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews Sinux Nasal or Flonase
😲 the comparison charts between ff and nasal almost look like a sleep study comparison between before/without cpap and with cpap. That's eye-opening!
Wow, this worked and without mouth tape! Thank you.
So glad to hear it! You're most welcome 😇
Ben, would you normally have to use mouth tape with your previous mask? What makes this product different. Thanks.
Best tips ever, I must say ❤
Anytime, always happy to help. Cheers
Excellent tips for switching. Thank you!
You bet! Thanks for the comment Susan
Suggesting using KT tape to tape the mouth shut as a test is genius. I was surprised to find that I actually can breathe thru my nose, and my APAP doesn’t need to crank up to its max pressure setting when I do. Learning a lot from this channel! Very helpful info.
that's really great to hear! I love it when viewers put some of the tips into practice and report back with positive results. Cheers
Your videos are excellent mate, your insane humour makes them 😂
Thank you my friend. Glad you enjoy the content and the lol's. Cheers
One of your best videos Nicko -so much useful information and great tips. I have never felt comfortable taping my mouth (terrified actually) but I would try kineasology tape as I have used it for my knee and am comfortable with its properties.
Thank you my friend, i'm glad you enjoyed it 🥰
I've been using a nasal mask and taping my mouth for 17 months and I love it. Chinatraps are the worst & never worked for me, besides being uncomfortable & hot. I love the taping method and have never had any issue with this method. Thanks for the info you provide!
Do you tape completely sealed or do you just put a strip perpendicular to your mouth?
@@jameslyons9457 i use 2" wide tape, cit it into 3 1/2" strips, and cover my whole mouth. Works great for me, best part is no chin strap!
yes this has been my experience so far! which was surprising to me!
Glad to hear Adrian. Well done mate. Cheers
I use the nasal mask. Have done for 8 years , every night! And it's incredible. I wake up each morning like I've had a hit of coffee 👍
Awesome buddy! Congrats
F&P Solo Nasal mask is fantastic. I was a mouth breather but mostly from habit. You need to remember/remind yourself to breathe via your nose in everyday situations.
That's a fantastic tip that i should have mentioned! Train yourself during the day. Very important
love nicko he’s straight up!
I love you too mate
I have only just started my journey with this and I was told ZERO information about any of this, absolutely NOTHING. They signed me up on a plan, threw some random head mask at me and sent me home with no follow up or anything. I have no idea what I am doing and if I need my machine regularly looked it to see if it is running fine? No clue. Your videos are soooo informative this has helped me a tonne! It's just disgusting that they don't even explain any of this to you or help you at all. Thanks for the information
I agree 100%! Going through the same thing and really frustrated with my DME company.
Hi im new to field of sleep Apnea which im yet to be diagnosed but i have no doubt that i have it as i snore like a freight train, every time i wake up my mouth is dry, and other people have told me that i sound like im choking when i sleep. You're not wrong that my first impressions have been negative before attempting to actually do some research on the topic. Thanks for the tips you give us on different masks and i watched an older video of yours for beginners which should be helpful in the future.
After watching this video, decided no more procrastination and got the nasal resmed one. Its way more comfortable, only had one night, and sleep was terrible, so looks like I have some work to do to get settings right. I left the settings the same as my full face mask, with a bit more pressure added as I wasnt getting the same pressure feeling. Watching video again as i might have missed something
I just started on CPAP a few days ago with a nasal pillow, but I noticed over the first few days that when I was falling asleep, my tongue would slip back, breaking the seal in my mouth. When this happens, the air from the CPAP starts flowing through my lips, which wakes me up. I ordered a full-face mask, so I'm going to try that for a while to see how it goes, but I'm happy to hear any other advice people have for this particular issue.
This happens to me (and all humans) I’ve found that sleeping on my side while holding a pillow between my arms with one end pushed up against my jaw to hold it closed helps. Over time I think my mouth is being retrained to stay out of the breathing equation and let my nose handle it. Like Niko says: your apnea has made you into a mouth breather. So it’ll take a bit of time to relearn how to be a nose breather.
Hi, I watched your videos on the Fisher&Paykel Icon Automatic CPAP, it helped me set it up, as it had been idle for eight years.
I would like to know if there is a complete manual for this machine? Or Video on how to configure the automatic pressure ramp.
Very informative.. I use an amara view full mask with a chin strap and a "Anti-Leak Strap by PAD A CHEEK ". I am a mouth breather, with dry mouth and stomach bloating symptoms. After many years, a second sleep study showed I could lower my pressure from 15 to 11 cmH2O to better control my sleep apnea. Seems to have less leaks now
I have used a nasal mask for 8 years. My metrics are always excellent.
Glad to hear mate, keep up the great work / sleep
I use a nasal mask with memory foam with full mask settings and love it. Mask leak is low also.
I do love those AirTouch cushions
I got my first nasal mask today and I'm excited to try it. I've never been able to breathe through my nose while sleeping but I'm 2 months post-op septoplasty/turbinate reduction/internal valve repair. i've got an internal breathe right strip now 😎
Ohhhhh nice one! Is this like a permanent device?
@@CPAPReviews yes! my doctor used my own cartilage to widen the inside of my nose so it stays open 🙌
How has recovery from the procedure been? My doctor warned me it was a tougher recovery than some anticipate...
@@larryperchick5399 it's funny you say that, I did think it was tougher than I was led to believe. still though, it wasn't terrible and it was probably easier compared to other surgeries. staying on top of the pain by taking pain meds on a schedule helped. I found the internal splints to be uncomfortable and was thrilled to get those removed
@@jenhatton984 Glad you got through it and it wasn't terrible.
you are great 🙋♂️ precios and gold advices 🇮🇹 ciao
Thanks! 😃
Same here I keep my face mask for colds. But if you max out the humidity it clears sinuses in most cases. Loogies always flow and block the nostril facing the pillow. So turn over couple of times. When it flows one side to another it is the best time to drain. Blowing can be cumbersome.
Cheers for the tips raf
@@CPAPReviews enjoy the bush oysters.
I have thick, curly hair that I wear in a bonnet at night. I use the Resmed AirFit F40. I usually pull the bonnet on top of the lower strap so it hangs over in back. Do you think this kind of headgear would work for me?
Nasal masks work great for me results wise, but the nostril chafing...OMG so sore. Any tips or a link to video you've done on skin protection for nasal masks?
I was on CPAP therapy for 10 years with a nasal mask and no problems keeping my mouth shut, then all of a sudden it would continually drop open at night. After struggling with full face mask leaks for a long time, I finally tried taping and it has been a revelation for me.
I just picked up the Solo mask, love the headgear and my leak rates are consistently below 10L/min. The noise is a non-issue for me as I usually turn away from my wife at night and use a white noise machine. I just wish the fit pack came with the wide cushion, or that the sizing tool at least included it. I don't have a big nose at all (I'm a medium in most nasal masks), but I've been needing to use the large cushion because medium is far too narrow and closes off one of my nostrils. My nose isn't quite long enough for the large, so I think I'm going to end up needing the wide one.
G'day Jeff, great to hear you're having success with the Solo! It would cost F&P $1-2 to make a cushion so it boggles the mind why the don't include the wide!?
So good. I purchased the SOLO and loved it . I can't seem to get enough air tho the 2nd night. Tried to find the 19mm heated ClimateAir hose. Is the one with the oxy (which would be great) always 19mm?
Yes that's correct. If you can't get enough air you can always increase your min pressure level. Cheers
Deviated septum matters, in Phoenix my nose would clear like 6 minutes in Minnesota takes two hours to clear. I cannot wait that long to fall asleep. I use full face mask in MN.
Hypertonic saline before bed (I use approx 2% saline) though a Neti pot or navage can shrink nasal membranes and allow easier nose breathing, always use distilled water
Absolutely! Part of my nightly ritual. Loooovvvvveeee it
I’m new to CPAP therapy and I have the AirSense11 auto set. The VA prescribed it to me with a Philips Dreamwear nasal cushion mask and then I ordered the P30i and the N30i but recently I keep waking up with my mask above my nose and on my forehead sometimes so I ordered the F30i to see if the extra strap keep it where it’s supposed to be. I need to message them to see if the Solo mask is available yet at the VA.
I'm always down to try a new mask if it means better sleep. Will have to get OSCAR and figure it out first so I can track how I'm doing on a nasal pillow. Thanks for the advice uncle Nico!
Or even better, SleepHQ.com 😉. Cheers mate
I switched to nasal about 3 months ago and everything is so much better. Less leak, lower AHI, better sleep. I use a chin strap and mouth tape together.
Awesome! Congrats bro
Very helpful content as usual. I was given the Airfit F30 by the hospital and I bloody hate it and get constant leaks. I tried the P10 nasal pillows mask but that irritated under my nose and was actually painful. Just ordered the N20 nasal mask and fingers crossed this will turn out to be the mask for me
Awesome mate, if you don't have much luck with the N20 then check out the bleep eclipse. I do like the n20 though so i think you'll enjoy it. Have a good one. Cheers
@@CPAPReviews thanks and I love the channel 👍The N20 has been excellent so far
I still wear a full face large Vitera for the last 2 years with Kino tape on mouth (Cheap ass hostage tape). Have tried N20 with foam and new solo but felt like I was suffocating with same settings as FF. (Maybe need to try EPR but using wrong machine to do it (Autoset doesn't have it). Have never been able to get used to nasal and don’t have no need for FF but feels good breathing wise. I run straight CPAP mode on 11cm and current setup works well and AHIs are very low. Only have to manage leaks.
Hi Nick, was that snot in the chamber in the nasal cleaning machine? Could you link to it please, I never knew they existed.
As a confirmed mouth breather, and a user of an FF mask for the entire 20-odd years of using CPAP I would LOVE to try and make the change. I'm going to have to watch this brilliant video again as there was just so much information to take in.
Love your enthusiasm Nick!
Hey buddy, yeah that's what a sinus rinse does, it clears all the snot out so you have a nice clean house before bed. It's great for congestion. That one is called 'Navage' - cpap.review/navage . I've done a few vids on it if you wanna search my channel. Cheers
Remember with the cold weather approaching to adjust your tube temp and humidity levels. I didn't and have a head cold due to blowing ice cold air up my nose all night. Also could you link the pre-cut kinesiology strips please?
I'm eagerly awaiting the Solo to be released in Canada/North America.
When I wear a full mask, it’s a medium. How would I determine what size nasal cushion? I no longer see a sleep study dr, so I would buy this on my own.
Hi Nic, Thanks for the video. When will the F&P Nova micro nasal mask, that you were wearing in the video, be available for sale in Australia?
I imagine our cousins across the pond will release it here after some initial testing in Canada and NZ. cheers
I'll take the "bulky" mask. I just swapped to the Dreamwear, very good mask. AHI down from 5-10 to 0.5-2
I find the full face mask very effective and comfortable, I was used to wearing full face breathing apparatus in the fire service so not an issue plus I am clean shaven so no leakage or build up of moisture (saliva) around the seal.
DS 2…DME always sent larger tubes with the DS1 and I never had “motor mouth” lips, but now they insist on the 12mm tubing with the DS2 recall replacement. I have had horrible dry mouth since receiving this horrible machine…and my lips make the motor mouth sound. I never related the tubing size as the cause of my issue. So I’ve been taping my lips vertically to stop this…chin strap was painful. 6-8 hrs of taped lips is actually changing the shape of my lips. Am I analyzing this correctly?
Do you have a Sleep HQ branch / affiliate in South Africa? I learn so much from you.
Question: I have the AirTouch F20 and it causes puffy bags under my eyes - any advice would be appreciated, especially if it's humorous! :)
What do you think of the Resmed nasal masks talked about below?
I used nasal mask - I have no problems and very comfortable
Airfit N30i for me! I use Ayre inside my nose and aloe gel around my nostrils, which I allow to dry for 2-3 minutes before putting on the cradle. This seems to seal it to my nose well. I am a restless sleeper & all my scores are 99-100 with less that 1 AHI, started with 51! I Love My Cpap! ❤️
Can you believe the leak rates in the video? Bananas. I use f30i and my leak rate is less than 5 always. Most nights it's zero.
I had a really hard time being compliant with the full mask and the smaller full mask. At first, the nasal was hard because I knew if I opened my mouth, it would be uncomfortable. Once I was able to mentally get past that, I've become 100% compliant, so definitely give nasal a try if you have been on the fence!
That's really great to hear and great work persisting as i know it's hard work
The rotating connection on the top for the tube leaks a lot aswel, is that the normal way it is designed?
Hi, what is the name of the nasal mask that you use at the beginning of the video?
what about jaw drop thou Nicko? That's a problem jason has I believe.
really great long form video mate. I thought we didn't think much of EPR thou?
OK, as a new pro member to SleepHQ, I certainly do appreciate all the info and knowledge I have gained from the vids and chat in the community. I have a F&P Evora, the most comfortable full face I have found in my 13 years of CPAP. I don't like the full face, discomfortable on a number of planes, but I do sleep notably better on the CPAP than not, so I have forced myself to tolorate it. My experience with the providers has been poor at best, and I have gained and used the knowledge, far more than all my providers combined, on SleepHQ vids, and community to make some adjustments, over the past two weeks, I have had better sleep than the past 14 years of using CPAP. I do have a problem breathing through my nose. Having watched this vid closely several times< I have come to some conclusions. I may be a mouth breather by bad habit. The tips Nicko gave may very well make using a nasal possible. The prior nasal I was given does not work for me as I was NEVER fitted, given any use instructions or told about pressure and or temp and humidity changes. Thanks Nicko for this and all the other important vids that give us great info we can use for better sleep. Keep them coming!!
G'day James, thanks for your membership mate! Your comment made my day. I'll keep making them if you keep watching them and it's great to hear they are making a difference. Cheers
Curious there is a survey/input from folks here on positive feedback(if your a mouth sleeper) and now going to Nasal with less/better results?
Where do you get your distilled water in Australia? I have had a really hard time to find any for NSW
Thanks for sharing a great video. Hope little on is growing quickly.❤❤💥👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Is this the actual sort of data that my respirologist has access to? I know I can upload to SleepHQ, but I'm lost when it comes to trying to read the data there.
Nice to know about nasal. Would be really helpful to have a presentation or links to what really works keeping the mouth closed. I've been through several chin straps, most of which have miserable fit and mostly mishape the head and do little to keep mouth closed. Some yourubers ballyhoo mouth tape or jaw lockers, but that seems very dangerous to me as you cannot cough or clear mouth with those.
I had to switch from P30I nasal to F40 due to mouth leaks. I never had a mouth leak problem with the P30i until I lost 70 pounds. If I tape my mouth the leaks went away of course but its a mess and most of the tapes I've tried leave adhesive residue The F40 leak rate was 0 last night and runs about 4-9 on average. I much prefer the P30i Its way more comfortable.
Niggt and day.. wish i could have those after stata!
Great video Nicko, are there any criteria where you would say stick with the full face, I wear the Dreamwear full face, boy would I love to go back to the swift fx 😂.
Glad you enjoyed it mate. I would say stick with a full face mask if you've tried everything else and can't get it to work. FF is a last resort in my book and i would rarely fit them. Only if the patient was at the end of the rope would i offer them a FF
Wow so much great info I will listen to it again tomorrow. Thanks so much
Wonderful!
What’s the link to the Solo with Nasal Prongs?
hey when will sleephq be available for löwenstein prisma smart max?
Are you gonna do a full review of the F40?
THE MAIN reason that the pressures are lower on a nasal mask has to do with the fact a FFM is strapped down around the chin area... so when someones goes to sleep and loses their Jaws ,muscle tone it pushes their whole anatomy in their mouth backwards and requires more pressure to compensate for this, same as a Chin strap thats strapped down and the angle is on the back of the head not the Top...
Hope this helps...
I was on the F30 but had leaking and mask sealing problems where I needed to adjust the straps every few nights which affected the leaks because it was hard to get a good mask seal so I switched to the F40. I honestly think that both are very similar. Except that with the F40 , I feel it's lighter on the face and my leaking improved and it's easier to get a good mask seal and I'm getting better numbers with the F40 as far as leaking and the mask seal. One of the issues with the F40 is that getting the cushion replacements is taking a long time to receive I think because it's the newest mask and parts are not that available
I have a deviated septum in my nose and it blocks when I lay down. I use a full face mask but would love to use a nasal mask as I feel claustrophobic in the full face mask. I have anxiety and wouldn't be able to tape my mouth or use chin strap. And concerned that my nose will block. Any ideas.
I was a full nose mask when I started, not over the mouth. Then tried the nasal pillows, and it took just fine. Never turned back. Not a huge change compared to a full face one mind you, but it stays sealed a lot better, due to less places for it to leak
Thanks for sharing your experience mate. Cheers
I was always told since I have allergies, to use a full face mask. I'd love to get of it. I'll give it a try.
Yeah i think that's probably the take home message from the video! Most people are making these assumptions without putting in the effort to trial nasal pap therapy. Please report back once you do. Cheers
I switched to a nasal pillow and have been using it for a week. I did really well, my leak rates went to zero. The only setback was when I got sick but I think that's to be expected. I tried to order the F&P solo but couldn't find my prescription to complete the order.
What if you’re always congested at nighttime? It gets really bad when lying down. The only thing that I can breath well with is alfrin, which is bad for you.
Can anyone recommend a good mask for when your blocked up/sick and can't use a nasal mask?
I had crazy leakage with the nasal pillow mask I used, and virtually none with the dreamwear full face mask, so the exact opposite of what you showed. I also love having the hose connect on top of my head instead of the front.
G'day mate, likely mouth leak with the pillows (this counts as unintentional leak) Cheers
I could never use full face, and now have converted the wife to nasal as well. No more face rash. And yes. I suffer nose being blocked a lot, but it's still better to use nasal.
So I found that as I drift off my mouth would open slightly (also pushed from within) and the air would rush out of my mouth creating great discomfort, essentially a leak. How do keep your mouth tightly closed?
What about (high) pressure induced hypopneas and centrals though?
I started with the fisher and paykel evora just on the nose kept feeling like my nose would get clogged and it kept moving to where I couldn't breath. Got a full face evora and huge difference. Just started cpap due to my job dont want it but forced to.
Been a mouth breather my whole life even before I had sleep apnea. I tried a nasal pillow in a sleep study, it was hard to breath because of my allergies and it's always hard to breath through my nose.
Hey buddy, imagine this: You've been scribbling with your left hand for a decade, and then suddenly, someone slaps a pen in your right hand and demands a Shakespearean sonnet. That's a bit of a head-scratcher, right? Well, that's what it's like for folks stepping into the clinic for the first time. They walk in clueless, and bam-a nasal mask is strapped on their face. Of course, it feels like blowing up a balloon with a straw. It's their very first rodeo exhaling against something that fights back! I bet you can do it if you give yourself 2 weeks. Cheers
Which nasal mask is a good one for a gentlemen with a slightly bigger honker on his face?
I have been using a CPAP since the mid 90's. I have tried almost every configuration of masks. They all were uncomfortable and leaked into my eyes until I went nasal pillow. I love the NuancePro Gel Frame.
Glad to hear it mate, yeah i like the shallow profile of those pillows but i find those gel components pop out of the frame? Do you find that?
@@CPAPReviews , never had that problem with my model of nasal pillow.
The main problem I had was deciding between a medium size or a large size.
I have a couple of NuancePro, send me an address and I will send you one. I'm in Texas
Does anyone know where I can get the nasal pillows for the H&P Solo. The link provided only has the cusions.
Full face masks are harder to seal. I have been using the nasal pillows for years. I have an old machine. I need to get a new one. I didn't know they have a ring to track Blood 02. My apple watch tracks it. I only issue with the nasal masks is when I have nasal congestion.
I can’t get an active ongoing seal when breathing via the full face mask via the nose and mouth if I am going to wear it might as well go on holiday to Australia and go scuba diving
The section with the nasal is not heated like my tubing. Consequently I get a lot of rain out. Almost waterboarded! Never had this problem with masks
I am very blessed to have my CPAP machine and the treatment, but my Airsense 10 also continues to cook the water chamber after the water runs dry......one never forgets that highly toxic taste and smell that lingers. Hopefully Resmed will design an auto shut off for the water heater plate when the chamber runs dry.
I’d love to do a nasal mask but I have problems with sinus allergies some times and I cannot breathe through the nostrils. 👃
I much, much prefer a full face mask. I have tried two different nasal masks and find them very uncomfortable--put simply, I have a large nose and I can't get a nasal mask that fits; the mask closes off part of my nasal passages, making it difficult to breathe. Nasal pillow masks are even more uncomfortable--I cannot sleep with something up my nose. Once I got past the first month of therapy and figured out how to adjust my mask properly (it did take some experimentation), I have never has major problems with leaks. Been doing therapy for two years wirh no problems.
cant use a nassel mask have bad sinus . . My resmed 10 and f30i leakage most night are 8 to 12. been told cant use nassel mask bad sinus . what do you guys think .
I I use the v-com with my F20 airtouch and f40.
Hey Gary, if you have a spare moment can you please complete my F40 Feedback form? cpap.review/airfit-f40-feedback . I'm tyring to get to 100 responses (currently at 74) before i release my full mask review. Cheers mate. Much appreciated
I'm looking forward to trying out a nasal mask once my sinuses heal from septoplasty.
I am a bit concerned though as I've got this other weird thing where smelling stuff causes my nerves to go apeshit and constrict, leading to sinus migraines.
Well that and remembering the second I woke up from surgery wherein they'd forgotten to put an oxygen mask on me, despite mentioning CPAP use, and absolutely killing myself trying to take that first inhale after waking up from anesthesia with my nose completely stuffed with stitches, blood, gore and what I can only describe as a significant portion of an especially salty ocean.