Sorceress Makes Some Power On The Dyno!!! - Day 1
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- We're back on the dyno after the Sorceress has gone through a bunch of changes over the last two years. This is how it went...
Thanks to everyone for the support and following along!
Shoutout to
The Sorceress team
Shane Tecklenburg
Ben with @EFIUniversity1
ARP
Manton
M&M Transmissions
Harts Turbo
Jesel
Larry Larson
DSX Tuning
and many more!
See you guys back for days 2 and 3 on the dyno!
This is probably one of the coolest and most informative videos i have seen in a very long time, and that's including actual training seminar videos series, and live presence seminars. Ben and Shane are absolute Jedi Masters when it comes to tuning and development! What a wealth of knowledge you guys have shared here! Can't wait to see the next one!
Ive always wondered when someone is gonna figure out how to log live, analog cylinder pressure rather than calculate it based on fuel and air quantity, density, etc. This is really cool to see! Lots of guys aren't willing to share this kind of info, and i really appreciate you walking through data and not being afraid to be technical. Also love watching Shane work his magic. You need to get on his tail about putting more content on his RUclips.
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Faxxx
Absolutely a killer team around the the Sorceress, has to be the most professional I've seen and yes we are following and supporting from here in Aus. Love your work and the video content is perfect with tech talk.
I love this car
SUPER KOOL to hear all of your detail and information. Especially for us lay people who simply can't do this but have the mind for serious drag racing. Thank you
Thanks for taking us along on this latest journey ! It's great to see the Sorceress making her way back. Thanks Rod 🙂
This is golden! Have always tuned by feel and hearing the engine. More fuel to the middle cylinders for them being hotter. Four banger abd number 3 is the hottest as it’s further from the water pump and has two buddies heating it up, second the same thing then comes the fourth and first cylinders, the coldest of the bunch.
Boy it would be nice to measure exhaust temp and lambda on all of the holes.
This is very interesting stuff!
I really appreciate the emphasis on safety like wearing the fire suit onto the dyno.
Thank you for sharing, fellas. I'm digging the new to me data.
Very, very cool and thanks for the combustion lessons. When you understand the fundamental processes, and have the right data, and SpinTron data, motors like this can create "gobs" (mechanical engineering term) of power and remain happy. You all are awesome - thanks for sharing your journey.
you know how good your video is when a guy wakes up and starts listening while eating toasts , cheese , and chocolate milk !
Ignition event and fuel mixture control for each individual cylinder is an awesome concept,and achievable with today’s electronics.There’s a lot of power to be gained with this application of technology.You guys seem to be onto the future of combustion efficiency and maximum power for racing combinations.I enjoy your scientific approach AND your laboratory.
Very cool to see you guys still getting after it. Car sounds incredible can't wait to see some passes.
That’s awesome Rod great to see your still living the dream!!
Well done too the whole team and Well worth waiting on the comeback. 🎉 exciting times ahead❤
Thanks for another informative video 🍻
Such a wicked video. Love this kind of information. Thank you for sharing. Love from New Zealand as always :)
Thanks for sharing all the data on the car. She sounds very nice
Well done guys!! I've been following you for the last couple of years or so, I'm so pumped to see the talent you have brought together. I love data and this is a tuners wet dream! Hello from New Zealand
what a blessing to be able to even afford this type of work..... and then the talent... ready for tomorrow..
Hi nice to share this kind of tech! I usually joke to my v8 customers in the dyno that a v8 is 8 engines on one crankshaft. looking forward to part 2.
Awesome video thank you !!!!
Hey, this is not nonsense! And the overheard talks about flame fronts and fuel mixtures are golden nuggets of tuning arts. Definitely going to follow where this goes.. Btw, there might be some unwanted turbulence inside both your intake plenum and your fuel rails. These pressure differences can cause the spikes and can be tuned around up to a certain level. Then there's the accuracy of data. When every temperature, gas mixture and pressure value are converted to resistance values and these values then read with a device and converted to a graph, the accumulated heat affects to the calibration of the conversion.
Good stuff lads!
So so cool. I love people lost in screaming it needs to go to the track for their validation. 😂
This team appear to be loving the journey. I can’t believe the sharing from total heavyweights of knowledge in Shane and Ben. Great attitude from everyone.
That dyno cell is 👌 Hear how quiet 3000hp+ was through the window. That’s nuts.
Spintron versus actual combustion beating and flexing will be interesting comparison on the valve train. I’m guessing it’s rods replacement following these 2 days of testing?
Very , very impressive! Quite a journey . Thanks for sharing. PS: you might want to add anther support to that oil tank.
Bit Wiggly isn’t it? This is the point of being in the dyno. Things you can see before you head down the race track.
Thanks to Rod for sharing the development details so openly, and thanks to both Shane and Ben for patiently explaining what most "tuners" keep to themselves. This is the dream scenario for car nerds. (DSX Mainline Dyno, ground breaking car build, Shane T, and Ben)
Man this was a great video!
Gday just love the content from down under
Looks like the left turbo is in need of a rebuild. Obviously if one needs it, they both need it… 👍
Can’t wait for the wastegates to get priory flow and turn it up even more! 🤘🤘
That sound ohh myyyy sooo fast 🎉🎉🎉😮😮
Excellent.........
It looks like the left side of the motor smokes more on the deceleration and being in the HVAC business the ventilation in the dyno room is impressive. Lot of great information guys thanks for the video.
It’s actually my dyno room… so thanks! We had to get extreme on the ventilation to get approval with the county.
Turbo seal is letting a bit of oil get by. Normal turbo stuffs.
@davesteck766 living the dream of millions.
Great Work
How much power
How much torque
Maximum R P M
Great Car 🚗
Interested to see what times ⏲️ 👀 you get with this BEAST 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I call BS . Rad was puking on those last few runs 👀🤣. Turn it up 🤙😎
Hell yeah
There is something amiss from the left bank (exhust smoke) compaired to the right bank (little smoke).
Even it up & your mint!
20:40 coolant sprays out the rad cap
Did it a couple of times actually yes but good observation
G'day indeed
How did you get that big scar on your arm man ? It looks hardout. Mad video. Love maxxxxxx.
Lot of money and man hours in that ride, it's been around awhile.
Watching some eggheads work can be sooo boring. Their results can be incredible but call me with results. You guys are able to relate to all of us who are intelligent in our own fields and teach us. Tough chore and you get 5 stars.
G'day 😂🇦🇺
Hub dyno module to hold the front end down 😁
FUCK YEAH!!!!! Sorceress Rocks!!!
Very cool! What are you guys using for an encoder input for the combustion analysis software, and how was TDC determined? Prox probe? Motoring the #1 cylinder? Also, with Plex software, are you able to view CA10 and CA90 as well? It would be quite handy if it had enough channels to view coil and injector data as well versus crank angle.
It’s uses the 60-2 crank trigger wheel just like the ECU. Yes you can see CA10 and CA90 and several other values as well.
There are only 8 high speed inputs and they are tied to the pressure transducers, so there are none left for the ignition and injector triggers.
@@TunedbyShaneT Thanks Shane
Could those huge oscillations in the graph be preignition or detonation events?
Is boost creep a problem or planning to run all of it? Seems like it'd be a LOT to lay the turbo's down and back and put the waste gates on the front of the bend it'd create. Freaking awesome build
Sure is not a problem. It only presents a problem on the dyno. Once we are on track we can control the boost using the blow off valve.
are you guys looking at coolant pressure? it was spitting a little bit of water
So, this iteration of the car will be a drag and drive ProMod when complete?
People gave me chit when I told them I run 50 psi in my 272 Buick v6 =1900 hp
I’ll never understand people using a dyno to “pull down” an engine at the end of a run whilst still on the throttle - in no world is an engine making 2400rwhp that’s accelerating in rpm going to stop accelerating, and begin decelerating whilst wide open, so why make it happen on the dyno?
Such a cool combo! And awesome tech, CA50 is such a cool data to use.
My shop needs this combustion data, how can I get it for single cylinder engine dyno use only?
Man that looked like it was pushing coolant out the radiator cap? Pretty sure y all log coolant pressure?
It was indeed - stay tuned
Do u add weight to balance ⚖️ car middle steering wheel helps balance ⚖️
Obviously it's an art piece but my only deal with that is even if I had the money is it practical? When not if, but when something breaks, you could be waiting quite some time.
No problem just buy it again 😂 these guys have money so they can afford to build the same engine twice
What type of air to fuel ratios do you shoot for? Compression ratio and fuel used? Im wanting to tune vehicles for a living, but I'm just wondering how changing motor dimensions changed compression, and what AFRs you are trying to hit and why?
The engine as tested is 8:1 we are targeting 3.8:1 Air Fuel using Methanol.
@TunedbyShaneT this may be too broad of a question, but how do you know what AFRs your shooting for? Is there a base math equation or is this based on what's happening inside cylinder from data?
@@blakeengland7784 well we have experience from running the engine previously and we know what we need to run on track to keep the engine alive. From there we adjust upward and downward to find best power. That gives us the answer so if we find ourselves in need of extra power at the possible expense of engine damage, we know where to go.
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do every promod team have to go threw this of a long process . or is there something about your combo that requires it?
Curiosity. We are not using the “standard” components that most pro mod teams use and therefore are set off on our own development path
What's the bore spacing on that block? Looks pretty big.
5.3 inches
Water is coming out of the radiator when you back off the power could be a crash if you were on a track
ur going to need a complete motor rebuild by time you leave the dyno hub....I wish I had that kind of FU money LMAO
What Timing
I love the keyboard “experts” that have ZERO skin in the game talking shit.🤣
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Dyno Queen
What’s the name of that combustion software?
Plex
Can I ask why you guys are not reading any of the spark plugs at all? When watching FuelTech, Steve Morris, Noonan, Nelson Racing Engines and several of the other big companies that are checking them out every few hits? Not trying to bash anyone at all just trying to ask questions.
We were looking at them also it’s just not depicted in the video.
is that a SMX BLOCK
No
Will we ever see this car on a drag and drive?
If that becomes a goal worth achieving, then yes.
LFG
I race
I love the car as far as how fast it is and the ingenuity that went in but Jesus man that thing is so ugly ..
Only about 1k hp from Steve Morris wagon....lmfao
Dumb comment
What's Steve's fast pass again?
Pretty sure it starts with a 6?
What's this car run again?
Definitely starts with 5.
Laugh all you want. The slip is true measure not the dyno
Think you'll find this car has been faster than Tom Bailey too, you know Steve's fastest customer.
@jdoe9518 one car is carbon fiber pro mod. One car is factory body with factory glass
@@ryanhale8013 what's your point?
Both cars are drag and drive.
Surely that 1k HP should be faster? LMFAO
Um is Tom's car all steel with glass? Think you'll find it's carbon/lexan... LMFAO
First, they weren’t going for max horsepower in this video and I’m a huge Steve Morris fan. This was meant to teach you something not to have a dick measuring contest with someone else’s engine. When you have a vehicle that makes 3k horsepower then post it. I highly doubt Steve would be on here bragging about his engine so maybe you shouldn’t be.
1200 hp is not very impressive😮
Bro u didn't even watch the entire vid and commented that
It made a lot of coolant pressure on the 3400 hp run. Pushed a lot of water out of the radiator cap , that would put you into the wall.
I don’t understand why you don’t dry deck the block of the heads and run, coolant separately through them and let the head gasket only seal combustion. Then it would have nothing to do with water. It’ll save your car and the paint on the Gard rails.
horrible camera work , when someone is explaining something technical & pointing to a screen you should be filming the screen/monitor rather than the person explaining it.
I really am no wiser for watching this. WOFTAM
Hell yes