Dieseling the Gamo Swarm Magnum .22!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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Finally a video on dieseling a gamo magnum !!
Just found your channel, you’re super creative and you live with passion. Keep at it and I wish you well bro
@William Kocher Thank you very much! I appreciate you.
I cleaned my barrel of my Gen2 and forgot to clean the grim from the breech face because the 10 shot mag plastic was covering it. I shot the next JSB 18gr. pellet into the snow, and it went off like a 22 long rifle powder burner. Less than 500 shots later, it lost over 130 fps and the piston seal was cooked. I found the pellet in the spring time, (I collect them when the snow melts., and it had a perfectly blown up skirt to .300", (2mm bigger than the barrel, the ID of the plastic silencer kept the skirt from blowing apart.)
It ruined the gun. I could not get parts from Gamo, so I bought another gun. I will never let that happen again. You go ahead. But there is no good reason to do it.
I'm confused
@@JVBL1 "dieseling" ruins the guns. Plain and simple.
@@sportosp-0158 yeah. I would think regular maintenance and cleaning your barrel would be good enough.
Great demo. Keep up the good content. You should try lubing the pellets if you want a little more speed and at consistent speeds. But you also need pellets that are consistent in diameter size and weight. But you know this.
Great job! We usually put a drop down the barrel
I have found in dieseling these pellets that you have to make sure that the skirt of appellate is the same diameter every time when you're adding any oils 4D cycling then how long you wait before you pull the trigger cuz sometimes the oil wants the roll-out of the pellet at the back-end some so if you're not timing exactly when you shoot the pellet Soca shooting the pellet at the same time every time and the skirt has to be the same diameter every time and even then you'll have a slight variance but it's more persistent I haven't seen this gentleman size the skirts of any of the pellets
When you are talking about dieseling it is like an engine where you lose power when your fuel to air ratio gets out of balance and the only way to be sure of consistently getting the same amount of oil with a break barrel is to keep the barrel pointing down when you close it. I watched an interesting one that used petroleum jelly which is easier to be consistent. Really liked your video.
@charlesheald1782 Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. And thank you for the comment!
I’ve had several others mention using petroleum jelly. I know it is not good for pellet rifles but I do plan on ding another test with a few other options other than oil. Probably will do that soon.
Very interesting experiment.
Inconsistency of oil volume used is in-built by closing the barrel, especially when you close it from inclinated / vertical to horizontal. There is reason to believe that not all shots have the same amount of oil in the pellet skirt.. Viscocity of oil is a factor but spillage will occur. Dripping oil is never the same volume. . Some oil will flow into the breech area. Some oil residue may remain after the shot, resulting in different volume being burned in the next shot. Also some oil of the previous shot may not be fully burned and build up in the skirt. And there may be build-up of oil between the breech seal and the transfer port. This might be the cause of your screamer shots.
You might minimize these differences by fixing the gun in a clamp iwith the barrel in the vertical position and cock it by moving the rest of the rifle. Not an easy job for the chrono and you need a pellet stop in the ground.
Full clean up of the breech and TP between shots is also in order.
Your method is WAY safer than put oil into the compression chamber, which is bound to burn up the piston seal very quickly and blow the spring up. But even your method will break the main spring soon. Wrecking the gun and your friendship at once is COOL!
My mix is full synthetic 2 stroke oil and diesel fuel. Mixed at a 32 to 1 OIL to FUEL ratio.
Love this rifle
You go ahead and enjoy yourself I'm never doing my Gamo swarm .177 maxxim Gen 2 like this
@Redd Jones It was fun. Won’t repeat it though.
Thats funny as hell using your buddies. 22 haha. Great video
I take a little scoop of vasoline put it in a little bowl and add 10-15 drops of 3in1 then stir it up so you still have that semi thick vasoline and you can just take a Q-tip or point of a knife and take a dab and put it in the pellet cup on the backend, (Same place you put the oil) This is a great mixture for getting shots that break the sound barrier and you don't have to worry about it running out all over because the vasoline is like thick jelly, I usually put a dab in every other pellet in the Gamo 10 RD mag and the difference in speed is crazy also penetration and FPE!!! Caution as doing this to much can destroy rubber seals/rings so do it at your own peril.
@Jonathan Angelo Several others have recommended trying vasoline. Seems like it may be a much better option than oil. Thank you for the comment!
That does make a big difference.
@Matt Yes it definitely did! I’m going to try a few other options in another video soon. Hope to get some better consistency in the shots.
Are you effing crazy, aint that thing powerful enough great video love the content
@Michael Cooper Thank you! I like the “less powerful” swarm whisper better. Much more enjoyable to shoot.
I absolutely love your videos! I have been wanting someone to make a video dieseling this gun very badly for a long time and here it finally is! Thank you so much for making this video!
@Justin Scott Nursing Thank you! I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Go to all the other videos on this topic and look at the comments about guys doing this for 30-40+ years with zero malfunction and the pellet rifles needing zero maintenance.
That 1161fps with a 14.3 rain works out at around 43 ft lbs - absolutely lethal.
@John Francis Yeah, I would imagine that would do some damage.
@@HuntShootLive Mix the 3-1 with petroleum jelly so that the oil doesn't drip out the skirt of the pellet. What's happening is that when you close your barrel, some of the oil leaks out... this variation of fps will not be consistent. Mix a thick batch of the two components and use a very fine syringe 💉 to carefully fill the skirt of the pellet, use razor blade to remove the excess by simply sliding the blade like a putty knife to prevent from etching the skirt. Surely your FPS will be easy more consistent. You're welcome 😊
And this is how airguns will be subjected to the same laws as firearms because when you diesel an airgun it becomes a firearm. Look up the laws. When new laws come out making airguns subject to the same laws as firearms, then what?
I was wondering if a full drop might be to much causing the results to vary so much. I wonder if you would try 0.5 or even 0.25 drops ( They do make syringes that can deliver that size!) if the results would stabilize.
@John Hoag That would definitely be worth trying. I believe the inconsistency is more related to the inability to keep the liquid in the back of the pellet. The second you level the rifle, the liquid begins to drain out. Several have commented that petroleum jelly or vapor rub works well. I plan to try those in a future video. Anything is worth testing though. You don’t know if you don’t try. Thank you for watching and for the comment!
I been deisaling EVERYTHING for years... nothing ever hurt my airguns
On the vigialante hand gun "pettet" you wont blow nothing either and the hammer is so strong it works very good.
Im from Philly... we been making weapons since lil tiny children... yes accuracy may suck sometimes
I have found that Vaseline or wheel bearing grease loaded in the back of the pellets will also diesel the pellet but you still have to use calibers on the skirts of the pellet to keep consistent size that you're using which does make a big difference in consistency
havent tried grease but vaseline works great
Good ole vaseline is what I use and have used it for a long time and have yet to blow out any seals.
The ultimate platform would be: Pre-deisled pellet (made by a savy manufacturer) one that has an oil/petroleum jelly mixture, protected and held in place by a micro film of wax. Then, make the air rifle so it can withstand the pressure. I would like to see 1600 fps with a .22 caliber pellet at 16.5 grams. Put this on a platform with a 12 round magazine, and you got the best selling break barrel/ pellet package on the market. (Yes, pre-deisled pellets. The wax could be a dirivitive of bow wax. Just enough to hold the oil/gel in place.) Charge .50 cents apiece for the pellet. High end price/ high end performance. Your thoughts 🤔🎯
@scottwalmer9248 The reason the don’t beef up the barrel is so it can maintain the qualification of not being a “firearm”. I can’t recall the exact wording but that rule is basically what keeps them as they are durability wise. The premade pellet idea isn’t bad at all but 50 cents a pellet would be a tough sell. You can buy 22lr for 6 cents per round.
The easiest way to diesel your pellets is to get the can of pellets and spray it the whole thing with WD-40 and Vicks Vapor Rub mix that make sure together in the entire can then you don't have to worry about these things pellets individually it works like a charm
You should try light sewing machine oil. One hell of a fire ball. Don't use a catalyst with it though.....
My Gamo actually says to oil the piston and seals and as soon as you go to fire a pellet that is essentially the exact same thing that happens. If it was going to hurt the gun I don't think they would tell you to put the oil in there in the first place.
@Apparition_Unknown I’m not sure if it will damage it or not but its a terrible idea to do it every shot. Consistency is nonexistent. You’d never be able to accurately hit anything small.
@@HuntShootLive o no I don't do it every shot I was just meaning I don't think a few shots will hurt it.
@@Apparition_Unknown I’d say you are correct.
Sir! Great video. But how are the accuracy when you put oil?
Thank you! I didn’t do a group test but the tremendous variance in speed negatively impacts accuracy at longer ranges.
@@HuntShootLive thank you sir!
Use grease to fill up the back of the pellet flush
Oh i was wondering this
I think that even the dropper doesn't have a consistent result because the volume is of the drop of 3-in-1 is not consistent, or the speed of the piston in combination with the volume of the drop of 3-in-1 is not consistent. Assuming that there is a spread of lowest average speed to highest average speed of the non dieseled pellets of around 18 fps, and the average lowest speed gain to the average of the highest speed gain, you're gaining multiples of initial speed of nearly 243 fps to 266 fps. with a minimum average gain of 60 fps. That's pretty good! Maybe my math is wrong. I added all the dieseled speeds and took the average, by dividing by 10 shots. Then I divided by 18. Basically, by dieseling the pellet, if you can stay on target accurately, you can achieve .22 long rifle speeds with a .22 pellet. It kind of defeats the purpose of a suppressed pellet gun, but if your purpose is to achieve more fpe for better stopping power or more penetration and expansion for humanely harvesting a medium sized game animal, you achieved your goal.
Anyway, Thanks again for the interesting video.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
@Ken Fan It is worth noting that I am used to working on loads for long range rifles and need deviation in or very near single digits for 1000 yard shots. I would have to guess the actual spread of the “group” at 100 yards or less with a dieseled pellet wouldn’t be terrible. The inches don’t have time to add up at that short of a distance.
@@HuntShootLive I generally pest and hunt at short distances, usually within 50 yards. I'll bait, trap, or hunt larger game from a perch or blind, but have rarely stalked, and have never taken a shot past 100 yards.
I hope you will continue to post hunting videos and go more in depth with your preparation. I have really enjoyed watching. Especially your Father/Daughter first buck video.
I watch a lot more of the pellet hunting videos recently because my son is getting into shooting and hunting at age 10 and it's a good father/son activity that I don't have to wait for a season to do. It's always open season on rats.
Dieseled pellets probably have their place, but I think it will make more sense to me to just stick to a lighter pellet for faster speed and not risk damaging the pellet gun barrel and moderator, or jeopardizing the shot placement with an unstable flight path. When I first started pellet hunting as a kid my buddies either had a 1377 crosman or a Daisy 880. I didn't have a pellet gun and I don't remember if there were even different weighted pellets.
Today we have so many different pellet types and grain weights that I can afford to keep some pellet guns (my Gamo rifles in .22) specifically for short or long range hunting, and some (my .177 Gamo Varmint, Crosman 1377s, and Benjamin Trail NP pistols) specifically for pesting.
Your videos have been great in terms of practical knowledge and shot placement. And I especially appreciate the fact that you emphasize humane harvesting and following the laws and regulations.
Most importantly, you present hunting with your daughter as a rite of passage and something positive and wholesome. I wish you all the best, and hope to see more of these types of videos.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
@ Ken Fan I just ordered both the Gamo Swarm Mag gen 3i in .177 and the Gamo Arrow PCP in 22. I'm looking forward to alot of new videos including hunts with them!
Try Murray's superior hair treatment contains benzyl alcohol, seems to work when dieseled crossman 22 hollow pt is compared to one that is not when fired using my Raptor whisper, someone with crono should try and let us know results
@P R I’m gonna try a few other components. May add that to my list.
@@HuntShootLive its cheap, consistency like Vaseline but with benzyl alcohol and stays in pellet cone without running like oils do.
Hey make a quick video on how to de-cock this thing and how to properly place silicon oil if applicable in the transfer port or whatever it’s called. Awesome channel
@dironizareyes596 Im not sure about the oil question but the only way I'm aware of to decock it is to shoot it. You can shoot it without a pellet in it to decock it if you prefer not to waste a pellet.
@@HuntShootLive apparently on some break barrels you can decock it by folding the break motion to the max then while holding the barrel as u would to break it “prepare for the barrel to fling back quickly “ you then pull the trigger then gently guiding the barrel back to position “make sure u don’t let the barrel swing and hit u in the face “ I’ve seen others do this with other break barrel rifles. I though would prefer to just shoot it with a pellet. Don’t ever shoot it without a pellet, the quick empty discharge could damage some kind of seal . That pellet being pushed out cushions the piston, without the pellet the motion is more violent. I was losing about 200fps or so from my other magnum and I think it might has been because of dry firing it.
I’ve never tried it personally on the magnum kinda scared to do so. Don’t wanna damage anything but I might try it on the swarm first. I think this decocking would apply in a situation for eg where maybe your cleaning the barrel at night and after your done you don’t want to leave or forget about it being loaded, so instead you can decock it right there, instead of going outside and cracking a pop outside idk . If it could safely be decocked why not . Don’t think it mentions that in the manual I would do some research first
Some say ignition spray and canola oil mix makes the best stuff
I watched some videos on this year's ago. It definitely picks up the speed. The question is why? Is it a better seal or actually igniting, or both? Try it with a none combustible liquid. Water maybe????
@Shootin’ with Uncle Dan Hey Uncle D! Water is a great idea. I may have to try that. I’m not so sure about the ignition theory. I also wondered if it’s not just increased pressure due to the liquid making a better seal.
The high compression starts the combustion process with anything that will light under high compression,---just like a diesel engine with no spark plug. I think it is actually making a pellet gun into a firearm, (a useless one), because a firearm is defined as using a substance that burns for the pressure increase behind the projectile.
If you don't want to hit your targets and possibly break your gun, this is a great idea.
@@EarthSurferUSA makes sense
you have to put a few drops of diesel in front of the gas piston, it will work like a diesel engine, the pressure heats the air which will ignite the diesel and give so more extra power to the pellet
@@Ezekiel903 - You know what works better? If you replace this gun with a firearm. And save this one for squirrels.
Oh, it's combustion 💥 all right. Just like in a diesel 💥 engine. You will burn up your piston seal and if you have a spring piston rifle, you stand a great chance of breaking your main spring.
Airgunners should be more interested in how accurate your rifle is, not how much you can wreck it. If this sounds negative, it's because you're going to get people that really can't afford to wreck the air rifles and they're going to do so, because they're going to think it looks cool because you did it.
Curious, is this the one that says 1300 fps on the box? If so why would 1100-1200 hurt the seals
@sonnybonowig7538 Very good question. I just uploaded a new video, dieseling with vasoline and vapor rub and I spoke about your statement.
You could hear that power crack of the mini explosion,. It's quite a power surge in velocity
@Mr Kipple It certainly is!
I found when weighed the pellets are inconsistent in weight ,finding 5 as close as you can and adding bore butter ( black powder lube) added a couple hundred feet per second,but nothing like your results
@grasshoppercrews1296 Some have mentioned petroleum jelly. I guess bore butter may provide similar results.
That loud cracking sound isn't from combustion or pressure. The sound is the pellet breaking the sound barrier and moving faster than the speed of sound.
@Bao Pham It definitely sounds a little more like a rimfire rifle.
It r really does. Impressive that you did this with a .22. I've only done this with .177 and chronographed a 400fps gain.
exactly
I guess I'm lucky. I have a Beeman springer that I've been dieseling for twenty years with chest rub. Haven't blown anything yet. It still shoots great.
Chest rub is a good one.lol.🤠
My Gamo actually says to put oil in the piston and seals often and when you fire it it does this so I'm pretty sure they are built to handle it I've never met anyone that blew one out doing it.
I see you have iron sides on your Gamo Swarm Magnum .22 ? Is this Gen 2? Because Gen 3 doesn't come with. If you put it on yourself can you give us a link where to buy iron sights PLEASE
@mariusneumayer4419 It is a gen 2 and came with iron sights.
Gotta use Vaseline because it doesn't run out of the pellet skirt and the power is incredible!!!!!
In my Beeman Duel Cal Break Barrel Rifle in 22Cal and 177Cal the 22Cal is doing around 1300 FPS with the Vaseline and with slugs you can seat the pellet and then put Vaseline behind it and enjoy the amazing power and by the way the Hornets 22Cal are very accurate when deiseling with Vaseline!!!!!!
@HAE777 Vapor rub works way better than vasoline. Check out the review I did...
ruclips.net/video/OouxXnKGu4o/видео.html
Try petroleum jelly.. I think it will stick around so you can load 'em up in the clip then click them off normal.. Seems to work for other diesel guns.
@markhall3434 I believe you are right. I’ve got another video planned soon. Will try it then.
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@@sonnybonowig7538 I’d say that would work.
You have to use Grease like axle grease or Vaseline to get it consistency
@Ty Cook I believe I’m going to do a video using Vaseline.
I been deisaling EVERYTHING for years... nothing ever hurt my airguns
On the vigialante hand gun "pettet" you wont blow nothing either and the hammer is so strong it works very good.
Im from Philly... we been making weapons since lil tiny children... yes accuracy may suck sometimes... anyway ,theyr cheap
@jonnymak1079 Yeah, no harm to mine yet. Check out my air rifle playlist if you haven't already. At this point, I've dieseled with vapor rub, gasoline, diesel, and gun powder.
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@@HuntShootLive nice
I mix vapor rub vaseline and w.d. 40
Hows the gun powder workiing out and how???? !!!!???
I wanna try :)
@jonnymak1079
Here is the video with gun powder...
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Vapor Rub has been the best thing I've tried so far.
@@HuntShootLive THANKS!!!
Ill watch it now :)
@@HuntShootLive Good day, I am a new member, first, to succeed in a group shot, stay below the speed of sound (1100 fps) ideally 975/1000 feet seconds to avoid vibration when approaching the sound barrier, and never exceed it if you want to remain stable...2nd, used the heaviest grain possible but boosting it with vapo rub or other, (which does not leak) used the exact quantity at all times of your fuel in a very precise way, to remain below the speed of sound and maintain your stability...important...if you use the heaviest pellet possible combined with your vape rub or other, your stopping power will be at maximum capacity (over 55/60 feet/ pound) if your pellet is heavy enough and it loses its precision, do you understand? then, by filtering your pellets, make sure that there are no defects on the pellet and in particular on the skirt, and clean them (remove any lead or other impurities) and dry them properly before applying the fuel ( vapo rub or other.) ballistics is an exact science (I have been reloading ammunition for 40 years). The idea for my advice is to get as close as possible to the sound barrier (without crossing it) with the heaviest projectile possible to increase the stopping power while maintaining good precision for hunting. a single pellet with this recipe should be enough to kill your animal the first time (lethal) without making it suffer unnecessarily... let me know for your future results Have a nice day.
Dieseling is forced combustion through quick compression. If theres a small amount of pentrol or alcohol substance in between the piston and the pellet, the compression from the piston (if stong enough) causes ignition and therefore more outward propelling of the pellet. You end up seeing and smelling smoke sooo..why would you think its anything else?
@Micheal313 I am well aware now. This was my first time dieseling anything and had basically zero investigation into it. I thought maybe the liquid was providing an improved seal and increasing efficiency. At this point, I have filmed videos dieseling with petroleum jelly, vapor rub, gasoline, actual diesel, and even gunpowder. So, very well aware of what goes on now. Check out my playlists. All those videos are there. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Hatsan break barrel carnivore goes from 550 fps to 710 fps when I did this ❤
try petroleum jelly. It will blow your mind. Just a q-tip in the cup of a pellet
@Tim Oliver I am definitely going to try that!
air gun Maintenance recommend using Silicone oil once every 500 to 1000 shots , that will automatically detonate, I believe this is the proper way. If anyone else knows a better way I’d rather not get The dieseling effect.
Of course it will makes the pellet go faster. But you have no control over fps so you won't have any accuracy or repeatability. I also damaged the piston seal of one of these gun by dieseling accidentally, and you can't get parts from Gamo. Have to go through a licensed firearms dealer, (and it is legally a firearm with dieseling as it is using a burning propellant), and good luck finding one that will order your parts. I ended up just buying a second gun. There is no accuracy and it can hurt your gun.
There is no good reason to do this. None.
Except 3 in 1 is not combustible, nor flammable.
Can you compare it with the.177?
@JVBL1 I wish I had access to the .177 but I do not.
With experience u get better performance w/accuracy & FPS when the barrel itself is dieseled instead've the actual pellet
Try Petroleum Jelly, its a little more consistent. Its what I used to use when I was a kid doing this.
@mike61704 Thanks for watching and for the reply! Check out my air rifle playlist. I have videos dieseling with petroleum jelly, vapor rub, gasoline, diesel, and gunpowder.
If u want consistency use wd40...open the tin spray in the wd40,close the tin,then lightly shake to distibute evenly...enjoy
@donte ward Thanks for the tip!
Try using Vaseline, that oil just runs everywhere, and pools-up here-n-there, Vaseline or Vic's vapo-rub will give you more consistent numbers, I never heard of using runny oil for dieseling a pellet-gun, lol.
Hard to be precise with this. I think you’d need to use a cleaning pellet between every dieseled shot. 🤷♂️
@Bayou Flats That would definitely help get the residual oil out.
I diesel my Crosman F4 rifle with this mixture of Vicks Vapor Rub and WD-40 that thing will literally penetrate steel pins from my cooking cabinet I meant to say still skillets the diesel Vicks Vapor Rub and WD-40 cause that pellet to go through Steel if you have a 30 caliber pellet gun in diesel it will go through a car door
@Jamil-ei9rz Vapor rub was the best I’ve tried in other videos other than gunpowder.
My hatson 125,with 14grain pellet hit 1200fps.
Does this have any negative effects on the gun
@onlinetoughguy7530 It is supposed to be terrible for them. Causing damage to the seals.
is it Safe ? i have the wiehrach hw50s does it hurt the Gun ?
@user-oo4dy7ox3w It didn’t harm this gun. I’ve read others say it does but never anyone who says it actually happened to their rifle. Just people repeating the theory. Now, that doesn’t mean I know it won’t harm your pellet rifle. I can just say it didn’t harm the one in this video and I couldn’t find where anyone said it actually did harm their air rifle.
I promise the way Gamo increasing power in their air guns by next two years nobody need to diesel anymore
i personaly put vasaline and it works way better
@ShadowCalvin Check out my air rifle playlist. I've dieseled with vasoline, vapor rub, gasoline, diesel, and gun powder.
best is petroleum jelly .... these oil came out of the pellets while pulling the trigger.
@mytube3639 Thanks for watching and for the reply! Check out my air rifle playlist. I have videos dieseling with petroleum jelly, vapor rub, gasoline, diesel, and gunpowder.
That's fast, but is it accurate?
Well in vasaline its... PETROLIUM... easy enuff ;)
A great example of the dieseling concept !
However, by using the
3 and 1 product will not give you a consistent result, due to when you are closing the breach, and becoming horizontal, you are losing an inconsistent amount of oil from each shot fired !
There by, your result is varying some.
A far more consistent result will come from utilizing a level amount of
"Vaseline" petroleum jelly in the skirt of the pellet, giving you a consistent level in each round, even though you have turned each shot to be horizontal in order to fire each round, which will give you a much better evaluation of the dieseling concept !
( of course, this process is NOT recommended by ANY airgun manufacturer ) !
You are assuming ALL risks related to this procedure to yourself, and to the gun you are experimenting with ) !
And may cause catastrophic failure to the gun, or potential physical injury to yourself as a result of !!!
@quadsman11 Thank you for the comment! I would like to try vasoline. Others have also mentioned vapor rub.
@@HuntShootLive
Yep !
Vaporub will give you the same consistent shots as Vasoline,
The heavy viscosity will hold it's position in the pellet skirt when you return the breech to it's horizontal firing position !
No two drops of oil are the same = therefore - the minute fluctuations of volume of oil will affect the speed. The fact is dieseling works. Many videos have proven this fact. Even bullets fluctuate in velocity from one round to the next. A drop of oil will not blow up your rifle, it is too small to do that and it does not rate in the category of gun powder.
@stevespanos75 Dieseling with gun powder won't blow it up either. I just did that video about a month ago. I also have videos dieseling with gasoline, diesel, vapor rub, and petroleum jelly. None seem to have harmed my air rifle.
I use literally used motor oil straight down the barrel 😂...it works longer &40 percent more power..
Mix the 3-1 with petroleum jelly so that the oil doesn't drip out the skirt of the pellet. What's happening is that when you close your barrel, some of the oil leaks out... this variation of fps will not be consistent. Mix a thick batch of the two components and use a very fine syringe 💉 to carefully fill the skirt of the pellet, use razor blade to remove the excess by simply sliding the blade like a putty knife to prevent from etching the skirt. Surely your FPS will be easy more consistent. You're welcome 😊
@WILLIEBEATZ ProDuctionZ I find it much easier to just use my .223 centerfire. Haha!
I dont recommend dieseling but if you do....😂 use a squeeze tube of carmex it works well ..😊
I got 1030 with a 11.75 grain
@@Steve0885 Thats pretty dang good.
I tuned my swarm magnum and then deiseled it and I got 1832 fps with a 14.3gr Crosman premier.
@Deane Shaftoe Thats getting up there!
@@HuntShootLive Amazing FPS but the light diablo style pellet is not accurate. I have moved to a heavier more slug-like pellet and have been getting great results. The tuning of the Gamo was the key to getting a better and more consistent performance increase. It was fun experimenting.
@Deane Shaftoe Yes. I believe the heavier pellets do much better. I suppose that is due to the speed.
You say you have modified your rifle and with deseling you got 1832fps🤯 speed with 14.3grains🤔, so tell me what modification you have done? Because i also have a channel that i test with my Modified Rifle (G MAGNUM 1250 IGT MACH1 5.5CAL) with 180 gas-ram / and 4.5mm Chamber Hole with theard... Click on the icon next to my comment, a photo of a Glock pistol appears, enter my channel and see my tests. Also with the patent the thread i thought of making 2 year ago, which worked! Putting a bigger gas-ram 180bar, you don't need to use deseling. What i pay attention to and maintain every 150 shots is to grease the chamber with the appropriate grease, and this is because the gas-ram 180bar i have put in it hits with a lot of force. After all, you said 1832fps, i thing you are exaggerating🤔 otherwise make a video, tell us the Modification you have made and show us in action what you say.
You have to use 100% silicone oil with a gas ram air rifle lol spring piston petroleum products😟
It's a lot easier to fill back up pellet with Vaseline
@donaldmanor2567 Yes it definitely is. Check out my air rifle playlist. I’ve dieseled with vasoline, vapor rub, gunpowder, gas and real diesel.
I have to save money to buy my gun's,I would not do anything to hurt them. I'm all about accuracy.
@henryturley7088 Check out my air rifle playlist. I’ve got all kinds of different tests with the swarm magnum .22 and .177. There are definitely pellets it prefers more than others.
Bro use Vaseline it doesn't fall from the pellet skirt
@Sandeep Kumar I have heard of using Vaseline. Will probably have to give that a try.
You were not aiming at a target to find out how accurate the dieseling was.
@Robert Weatherholt I’m sure it was all over the place just like the velocity. Not good for the gun to diesel it so I have zero plans of doing that again. Just curious if I could get consistent velocity and what the velocity would be. No consistency so even if it wasn’t harmful for the gun I wouldn’t be interested in doing it again.
Try dieseling with some nitro race fuel and see what happens
@micky mondo I bet it works but I’ll probably not subject it to any more abuse!
I don't know taking a chance to ruin your gun and then turning it from an air rifle to a firearm legality although in a survival situation you may need more power
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@Siy Gfy Thank you!
he’s destroying his buddies gun 😂
@obama9143 The gun is fine. This was over a year ago. No ill affect.
Vaseline instead of oil will give any rifle a 200 fps boost.
@johnnybbgunner2136 A lot of people have said to use vasoline.
It does not run out of the skirt like oil does.
dieseling can damage or blow out your seals,, petroleum products should not be near any of it/them
I haven't found any that did. I think it just causes a perfect seal there by making better back pressure not blowing up like gun powder. its made for the back pressure. If it was going to blow it would've the forth shot
I will not use wd 40
@YELLOWHAMMER SUWAKE petroleum products weaken and slowly cause damage, it's not an instant thing, it's your property, do what you want
@@woofman4796 what about pellet oil?
@YELLOWHAMMER SUWAKE that is a good question, when I clean mine, I use non petroleum based silicone, liquid, I think pellet gun oil is just for lubricating the linkage and such, your seal may last a billion shots or fail under 100 if you keep dieseling it, it depends on the quality of the seal, I have 3 Gamo rifles, 1 hatsan and 1 weihrauch, the seal in the weihrauch is the best
some folks use vaseline, it won't run out of the pellet
Yeah you gotta burn the gas off
Think your using to much oil just a little bit on a q-tip just a slightly get the skirt just a smear wet
@SteveSiwak-sv8sd I tested several other way better options for dieseling. Check out my air rifle playlist.
Take a q-tip with some Vaseline places easy no mess
@Shane Dirden I do plan on giving that a try.
Use vaseline?
Several others have recommended Vaseline. I will try that.
In a survival situation where you only need 10 shots for 10 deer.
@Jacob Green With the correct pellet, it would probably do that just fine.
@@HuntShootLive The correct pellet.... thats a video all in itself.
@@scinanisern9845 I really like the penetration of the hornets but the shoot erratically in my rifle.
@@HuntShootLive Yah... I noticed they tend to have a mind of their own. I will be searching for a pellet soon. Im new to air rifles. Ordered a Mag 3, it will arrive one day. Im coming from a 30-06, made my own ammo. I know a rifle and the ammo can be explored for weight and power to find a sweet spot. I was wondering if there is a weight of hornet which can bring the group together more.
Use Vics vaporub
@Tab Fabiani I may have to give that a try!
Same as woof man you will fry your O rings and ruin the gun too late . Sorry Pete.
@Steve Bbbbi Thankfully it still works well. I won’t be using it for any more of those tests though!
I got 1400 fps with a mixture of vassoline and rubbing alcohol...packed into back of pellets
@A B I may have to give that a try!
Like your video on shooting a fresh deer head
@Ty Cook Thank you! That was a fun video to make.
Vaccine stays in the pellet and at least will be consistent in the charge.
@Ella Craddock I do plan on doing a follow up with different options including vasoline.
Nice backstop on the 2'nd part!
I'm done after that.
@David Gifford Sr. 100 acres of private property with a mountain on the other side of those trees. Perfect backstop. Thanks for watching!
@@HuntShootLive You cannot see beyond the leaves !
@@davidgiffordsr.930 Its my property and there is a hill there. I suppose it is possible a trespasser could be walking on the side of the bank on my property randomly up on the side of the mountain where my land is.
I diesel mine with 3 drops of 3in1 in the hole the air comes from it last 2 shots... 2nd shot is faster
Go to the range and see what happens
@zachthomas184 Random shot placement and frustration happens.
Use vaseline and load up the mag
Vegetable oil
No I'm pretty sure it's true dieseling.
@clovenbeast5183 I’m not sure what your statement is in response to.
Should try real Diesel.