Brokkolesz There are no radical Islamists at all in South Sudan; the conflict is between the Dinka and Nuer people, who are mostly Christian with a blend of indigenous beliefs. There are virtually no Muslims in South Sudan either. The source of this conflict stems from a power struggle between two former liberation leaders.
***** Actually yes tribalism with spears and stones is less violent than now that guns are introduced. My tribe has always been attacked by another for 90 years, my people did not take it seriously cause it as just small skirmishes,but when guns where introduce it turned into a genocide and drove us out of our area. You don't know anything don't make assumptions.
Most problems in Africa stem from colonialism,lines drawn by Europeans did not reflect ethnic difference.they were force to coexist in a country even though their wars and hatred for each others span hundreds of years.the only way to fix Africa is to redefine nation borders .its like forcing Germans and French men to adopt one unified idenity when they speak different languages and have different culture
More like if France and Germany were forced to together after 500 years of warring.historical enemies die hard esspecially if you are forced to live together for the past 60 years coupled with all types of western expolitation.the key word is forced.its a lack of consideration of historical differences
The European Union is a fine example of warring peoples finding a peaceful coexistence. Since it was settled, Europe was plagued with war between the hostile inhabitants. Many colonial wars and two world wars that circled the globe; wars much more vicious than those shared by the tribes of Africa. However the Europeans were able to put their petty grudges and rivalries aside to uphold peace. Yet, literally over 100,000 years after humans lived in Africa, there is still petty tribal conflict, and there will be for some time. Europe is a convenient culprit, but not to blame.
Petty? don't trivialize until you understand the reasons as to why groups wage wars.and humans still live in Africa fool.Europe has not suffered the same history as such you must consider many factors present and past.alsoeurope isn't exactly the beacon of peace and acceptance in the world esspecially since most western countries wage wars and benefit.you see Europe is only one part of this world judge a people on how much they minimize suffering.Europeans have a hand in much of the atrocities going on in Africa.learn African history as well.study
I. Say study because African history is vast l,many westerners do not know the ancient empires of Africa the peace and wealth that characterized that time.it was was during this time that barbarism was commonplace in Europe.you learn history from one perspective you become ignorant and narrow minded
David jenkins You're right, I really should study the history of Africa more. But it's apparent that the attribution of the troubles of Africa to the fact that it was subjected to colonization isn't a rational argument. Case and point: China. The similarly peaceful nation was carved up, much like Africa, by the Europeans for colonial wealth. Despite the dismemberment of the nation, and the severely debilitating opium epidemic that followed, China is now a world economic leader. Africa, the cradle of humanity, is capable of escaping the rut it is in, but the societies must learn to accept each other and realize that, in tribal warfare, everyone loses.
All I can say is that a lot of countries in the African continent is going to shit real fast. The causes are varied and complicated and cannot be oversimplified to just "corruption" or "religions hostilities" etc. Eitherway, they lose. Thank you Vice for covering this.
its because as news comes in they put it out in these dispatches, they do it this way as opposed to waiting several weeks to get a full story and then put it out, although i do think they could put a little more information into these videos i like how they put out updates on the situations every few days
Huh, This makes me so sad to see Africa like this, When I was born in the middle of the Bosnian Genocide in Zenica, I had to flee as a refuge, And my dad left my mom, And Africa was the only option and I moved to Nigeria then Ghana, Until my mom had enough money to move to a better place, Living in those countries for more then half my life, Has opened me to so many things, I hope Africa can stop wars one day.
That's one of he problems that FOMAC is facing. Some non-rebels and non-FOMAC got a hold of some uniforms and began to go house to house raiding and killing. Really sad situation, but at least France is kind of taking responsibility for Africa unlike all of the other European powers
Lets face it...Africa is semi-doomed as it is right now... The UN needs to make an intervention, militarly. Africa needs a redoot asap so these situations can come to an end
AlanTheBest97 The U.S. should not send troops anywhere. They go for two years and end up staying 10. We go enough oil here. We just for some reason don't fucking use it.
Enjoying these dispatches from current conflicts in Africa. It is important the rest of the world knows. Thanks Vice and please keep doing this valuable reporting.
All we can do as of right now is pray for everyone there and let god help these people. I may be 15 but that doesn't mean I don't have common sense like a bunch of idiots joking and laughing at this. PLEASE lord watch over all of these people and help them in every way you can.
all we can and will do is eat burgers and drink cola and let our internet wise man, warrior,hero ect. say some random stuff for thumbs ups then back 2 relaxing and not giving a shit about anything..... trust me im the same
p3tr0l If you read clearly it I said as of right now. And you will be surprised how much affective it is. You may not believe but god loves all including non believers.
The real reason why this is going on in the South Sudan is not because of oil, its because the current president refuses to re-run for presidency on the up coming election and says that there will be "No election" in 2015 and his term will end in 2019, so the Vice President refused to follow that and his faction revolted and it later turned into to this nonsense. Other influence are to be accounted as well.
If peace finds Africa, the cows will fly to Europe or the Middle East and hopefully not over the Atlantic or Indian depending on if their ability to fly is peace dependent cause they'll turn into shark food.
"In order to restore confidence, the army's general staff decided to send Vice by helicopter to the Bora frontline." Hey, dinosaur media, did they even bother to call you?
hello im an a south Sudanese so i think i have to enlighten some of the vice viewers here 1. this is not a tribal conflict. 2. this is not a war as it is only happening in 1 town bor , you see the rebels used to be part of the army but after an attempted coup as the president salva kiir claims, then they ran from the capital city juba into the wilderness unless the rebels surrender soon they will be virtually all destroyed. i mean they really aren't a threat to the nation except in jongeli and unity state
Tragically Africa could accomplish so much more if they worked together. It is in everyone's interest to avoid such conflicts. Yet time and time again petty political power struggles and religion get in the way of progress.
The assertion that the conflict is between Dinka and Nuer ethnic groups is not 100% true; if you take a closer look on both sides of the conflict; you would realize that on the rebel side; it’s overwhelmingly Nuer ethnic group; but on the government side; it’s all ethnic groups of South Sudan including Nuer. It seems as if the conflict is between Dinka and Nuer only to people who know less about South Sudan because Dinka are the majority and happened to be the ones in control of the government!
Great, seeing a few comments with the "OH THIS IS PROPAGANDA" bullshit. How? How? This isn't making me think one side is the good guys and the other is the bad guys.
I'm not one for weapons very much, but I kinda want to by myself an AK-47 (Kalashnikov). It's such a beautiful instrument. Does anyone know if Ak-47's are sold in the US?
vice pls ffs stop ur new marketing scheme of putting out trailers and calling them dispatches JUST to increase ur fuckin video and commercial count...pisses ur viewers off trust me
billzmahjal the government side mainly Dinka ethnic group Roman Catholic the rebels side mainly Nuer people ethnic group christian Presbyterian Church their leader Riek Machar Vice President of South Sudan
no honour amongst thieves. South sudan rebels used to be North Sudan army they defected and decided to create their own state. Now they are being attacked by rebels. LOL
get no food in south Sudan people have a lot of many driving v 8 call them self v i p in s Sudan dam i hat this shirt when i see my people crying oh god save as
What's up with all this mini clips jus show the hole thing this shit is real important information not a movie coming soon. looks like you're trying to glorify it, you Americans SMH
Very interesting and informative video. Thanks VICE!
this is sad, a new African country now already at war , is it because of the oil
It is much more difficult than that. Much more.
Brokkolesz There are no radical Islamists at all in South Sudan; the conflict is between the Dinka and Nuer people, who are mostly Christian with a blend of indigenous beliefs. There are virtually no Muslims in South Sudan either. The source of this conflict stems from a power struggle between two former liberation leaders.
Brokkolesz
typical inept sub-human waste. The conflict is tribal and not religious you fucking loser.
*****
wow did you come up with all that by yourself?? You're a big boy aren't you
*****
Actually yes tribalism with spears and stones is less violent than now that guns are introduced. My tribe has always been attacked by another for 90 years, my people did not take it seriously cause it as just small skirmishes,but when guns where introduce it turned into a genocide and drove us out of our area. You don't know anything don't make assumptions.
I was impressed by how well organized this relatively new country's army was in the video.
It's because they weren't trained for just 3 hours like the Malian Army.
This guy is one of my favorite reporters. He always gets sent to the shittiest locations.
its a choice they give you, your not forced but reporters get paid more in conflict zones
it's crazy that vice puts this much effort into documenting something so high risk and so interesting to only come out with short 2 minute dispatches
Most problems in Africa stem from colonialism,lines drawn by Europeans did not reflect ethnic difference.they were force to coexist in a country even though their wars and hatred for each others span hundreds of years.the only way to fix Africa is to redefine nation borders .its like forcing Germans and French men to adopt one unified idenity when they speak different languages and have different culture
More like if France and Germany were forced to together after 500 years of warring.historical enemies die hard esspecially if you are forced to live together for the past 60 years coupled with all types of western expolitation.the key word is forced.its a lack of consideration of historical differences
The European Union is a fine example of warring peoples finding a peaceful coexistence. Since it was settled, Europe was plagued with war between the hostile inhabitants. Many colonial wars and two world wars that circled the globe; wars much more vicious than those shared by the tribes of Africa. However the Europeans were able to put their petty grudges and rivalries aside to uphold peace. Yet, literally over 100,000 years after humans lived in Africa, there is still petty tribal conflict, and there will be for some time. Europe is a convenient culprit, but not to blame.
Petty? don't trivialize until you understand the reasons as to why groups wage wars.and humans still live in Africa fool.Europe has not suffered the same history as such you must consider many factors present and past.alsoeurope isn't exactly the beacon of peace and acceptance in the world esspecially since most western countries wage wars and benefit.you see Europe is only one part of this world judge a people on how much they minimize suffering.Europeans have a hand in much of the atrocities going on in Africa.learn African history as well.study
I. Say study because African history is vast l,many westerners do not know the ancient empires of Africa the peace and wealth that characterized that time.it was was during this time that barbarism was commonplace in Europe.you learn history from one perspective you become ignorant and narrow minded
David jenkins You're right, I really should study the history of Africa more. But it's apparent that the attribution of the troubles of Africa to the fact that it was subjected to colonization isn't a rational argument. Case and point: China. The similarly peaceful nation was carved up, much like Africa, by the Europeans for colonial wealth. Despite the dismemberment of the nation, and the severely debilitating opium epidemic that followed, China is now a world economic leader. Africa, the cradle of humanity, is capable of escaping the rut it is in, but the societies must learn to accept each other and realize that, in tribal warfare, everyone loses.
That reporter is SO GOOD in conflict zones! More of him please, VICE! (though it would be better if he had no conflict zone to even report about :/)
All I can say is that a lot of countries in the African continent is going to shit real fast. The causes are varied and complicated and cannot be oversimplified to just "corruption" or "religions hostilities" etc.
Eitherway, they lose. Thank you Vice for covering this.
***** watch?v=TY2DKzastu8
Thank you so much fella for being there facing all this hardship in order to report it to the world. Good luck !!!
Why don't you put entire documentary in one video instead for going with few "Dispatches" :(
its because as news comes in they put it out in these dispatches, they do it this way as opposed to waiting several weeks to get a full story and then put it out, although i do think they could put a little more information into these videos i like how they put out updates on the situations every few days
"How far was the battle from here" "99 miles" so VICE writes 9 miles to make it seem more precarious, pathetic, VICE used to be kickass
I blame George Clooney
Huh, This makes me so sad to see Africa like this, When I was born in the middle of the Bosnian Genocide in Zenica, I had to flee as a refuge, And my dad left my mom, And Africa was the only option and I moved to Nigeria then Ghana, Until my mom had enough money to move to a better place, Living in those countries for more then half my life, Has opened me to so many things, I hope Africa can stop wars one day.
Thanks so much for reporting! I especially like these smaller videos, because I realize that they are as current as possible, and thats REAL news!
Every time I watch these kind of videos I can't help but think it's a movie but then I realize that it's real and get a really bad feeling.
I'm going to keep following this story, thanks vice
1:48 I love how chill this guy is...
Uniforms seem to vary. How do they know who's on who's side if they all have uniform of different nations.
From what I've seen the rebels mostly wear normal clothes with masks similar to what you see the Taliban wearing.
That's one of he problems that FOMAC is facing. Some non-rebels and non-FOMAC got a hold of some uniforms and began to go house to house raiding and killing. Really sad situation, but at least France is kind of taking responsibility for Africa unlike all of the other European powers
It's just the same old story with countries that find oil , they have some sort of conflict then the USA get involved and take the oil
This video has nothing to do with the U.S so please shut the fuck up!
Lets face it...Africa is semi-doomed as it is right now... The UN needs to make an intervention, militarly. Africa needs a redoot asap so these situations can come to an end
The UN can suck a dick
EvolutionOfNothing1 Yeah that's mature.
MRMolbreka1 He is not far wrong. UN sucks, what's a military if it can't even fight due to all its biblical number of rule of engagement chapters.
Then send in the marines!! lol, at least america would be doing something useful and get some oil as a consolating gift,
AlanTheBest97 The U.S. should not send troops anywhere. They go for two years and end up staying 10. We go enough oil here. We just for some reason don't fucking use it.
Enjoying these dispatches from current conflicts in Africa. It is important the rest of the world knows. Thanks Vice and please keep doing this valuable reporting.
Would be nice if some more background of the conflict was included in the video.
All we can do as of right now is pray for everyone there and let god help these people. I may be 15 but that doesn't mean I don't have common sense like a bunch of idiots joking and laughing at this. PLEASE lord watch over all of these people and help them in every way you can.
"All we can do as of right now is pray for everyone there and let god help these people"
So you're basically suggesting we do nothing.
You obviously don't have common sense if you think your god is going to help in anyway. Praying isn't going to help anyone.
all we can and will do is eat burgers and drink cola and let our internet wise man, warrior,hero ect. say some random stuff for thumbs ups then back 2 relaxing and not giving a shit about anything..... trust me im the same
p3tr0l
I was going to say something similar, or more crude, but you hit the nail on the head so well. I think I'll pray instead.
p3tr0l If you read clearly it I said as of right now. And you will be surprised how much affective it is. You may not believe but god loves all including non believers.
man im so addicted to this channel!!!
thanks
Incredibly brave journalist to travel in these conditions. Thank You ! And good luck.
FINALLY, some real Vice videos
when does the rest come out!
Props to this reporter i really like him, he did a very good job on the Rojava story and also on this one. hope to see him some more on Vice.
Vice is back!
The real reason why this is going on in the South Sudan is not because of oil, its because the current president refuses to re-run for presidency on the up coming election and says that there will be "No election" in 2015 and his term will end in 2019, so the Vice President refused to follow that and his faction revolted and it later turned into to this nonsense. Other influence are to be accounted as well.
Unfortunately that general died in the ambush of Pariak. He was a brave soldier may his soul rest in peace.
This the stuff I like to see
If peace finds Africa, the cows will fly to Europe or the Middle East and hopefully not over the Atlantic or Indian depending on if their ability to fly is peace dependent cause they'll turn into shark food.
good video, where can i see more context to the whole affair?
"In order to restore confidence, the army's general staff decided to send Vice by helicopter to the Bora frontline."
Hey, dinosaur media, did they even bother to call you?
Please keep more coming from South Sudan. I follow with keen interest.
Good job guys.
99* miles. Not 9.
This video is far too short.
I really hope South Sudan does well. I mean its such a new country. And already in gulped by war.
Cool vid !
The said the nuer attaked them first they did. The reason
Why I know is because I'm nuer and I was in Sudan when it started 1985
hello im an a south Sudanese so i think i have to enlighten some of the vice viewers here 1. this is not a tribal conflict. 2. this is not a war as it is only happening in 1 town bor , you see the rebels used to be part of the army but after an attempted coup as the president salva kiir claims, then they ran from the capital city juba into the wilderness unless the rebels surrender soon they will be virtually all destroyed. i mean they really aren't a threat to the nation except in jongeli and unity state
I was always a big fan of Vice, but this guy has the biggest balls.
3 minutes? What the heck?
too bad this new country is already at war, i know several Sudanese in the states and they are the kindest most loving people...
Poor little people
that roussinos guy is such a BADASS!
Tragically Africa could accomplish so much more if they worked together. It is in everyone's interest to avoid such conflicts. Yet time and time again petty political power struggles and religion get in the way of progress.
Stop milking views and upload 1 video please. Or just trailer then video
The assertion that the conflict is between Dinka and Nuer ethnic groups is not 100% true; if you take a closer look on both sides of the conflict; you would realize that on the rebel side; it’s overwhelmingly Nuer ethnic group; but on the government side; it’s all ethnic groups of South Sudan including Nuer.
It seems as if the conflict is between Dinka and Nuer only to people who know less about South Sudan because Dinka are the majority and happened to be the ones in control of the government!
Great, seeing a few comments with the "OH THIS IS PROPAGANDA" bullshit. How? How? This isn't making me think one side is the good guys and the other is the bad guys.
I only think of the first mission of Black Ops 2 when I watch this.
LMAO
I appreciate your reports Vice, but I worry about your journalists, these are very dangerous areas at very dangerous times. Stay safe guys!
UR BOI BANGS IS FROM SUDAN MAY HE TAKE THEM 2 DA MOVIES
whose this journalist I would really like to know?
ربنا يعينكم
great video, can the next one be longer.
Stop with dispatches and make full videos again
Brave reporter for getting in any motor vehicle let alone a helicopter with these mongrels.
"no problem at all" haha :~)
I heard 99 miles from here ,wow, vice just stop...
I'm not one for weapons very much, but I kinda want to by myself an AK-47 (Kalashnikov). It's such a beautiful instrument. Does anyone know if Ak-47's are sold in the US?
i think its time for the NATO to intervene, the French foreign Legion are strong enough to handle Mali on there own
Thanks for uploading this 2 minutes video...... 2 fuvking minutes vice... 2 fucking minutes......
0:36 PEACE BROTHA!!
Did the general die?
vice pls ffs stop ur new marketing scheme of putting out trailers and calling them dispatches JUST to increase ur fuckin video and commercial count...pisses ur viewers off trust me
These videos are too fuckin short!
i heard all the rebel forces escaped to the EU
this is like black ops2 the first mission but then i remember its real
This is a damn shame. Or brothers in the mother land is fighting over two religions that were given to them.
Africa home of the modern crusade this Christians vs Muslims thing is getting out of hand in Africa...And nobodies speaking about it!!
in South Sudan both side are Christians
You sure?
billzmahjal the government side mainly Dinka ethnic group Roman Catholic the rebels side mainly Nuer people ethnic group christian Presbyterian Church their leader Riek Machar Vice President of South Sudan
I read its about ethnic tribes and who the british favored but my comment was about the whole continent
but you acting like its not becoming an issue
Don't go embedded!
Wow.
An american JROTC student could set up a more disciplined fighting force. this is a disgrace. They cant even kill people properly.
Stupid war.
Thank Chevron for coming violence.
Mali style shenanigans inbound!
They don't train for 3 hours like the Malians.
I MUST PROTECT UR BOY BANGZ
Just another day in Africa.
oh shit what now africa already have enough problems
We better invade it could be a national security threat to the Unitied States....lol!!
Colonism was better for Africa in the long run though :/
no honour amongst thieves. South sudan rebels used to be North Sudan army they defected and decided to create their own state. Now they are being attacked by rebels. LOL
Wow
Another African conflict. Didn't see that coming. /sarcasm
get no food in south Sudan people have a lot of many driving v 8 call them self v i p in s Sudan dam i hat this shirt when i see my people crying oh god save as
What's up with all this mini clips jus show the hole thing this shit is real important information not a movie coming soon. looks like you're trying to glorify it, you Americans SMH
this so said neighbors cant get along,and all of this is for the sake of religion! hypocritsy!!! When will they learn war no more Isaiah 1:1-3
amrika and their propaganda machine VICE
Everything here is done for western video
shit is coming out there
that is one sexy helicopter
WW3