This Chinese Motherboard Shows Intel LIED...
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2019
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When 8th gen Intel Core launched, the need for a new chipset was in doubt from the outset. ONDA certainly doubted it... But did they stop to ask if they should?
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Dear linus,
I'm KENNY, a budget gaming PC builder in HK, and im always working around with chinese MB,
yours was not the most unthinkable chinese MB I've been working with,
chinese MB on LGA1151 are much more then you can imagine,
and actually the one you're playing with was not meant to work with high end CPU like 8700k,
it's meant for budget PC with a i3 8100, g4560, G5400 with ECC REG DDR3 (yes, your board dose support) since they are as cheap as rubbish in China,
the reason you can't get the full power out of your CPU is because you haven't run through your BIOS yet,
all the power control value has to be config manually to make your cpu turbo up in the right way,
if your are not tuning it right, only one of the 6 cores will turbo up to the right speed. thats how you lost your CPU performance,
you can make it right in BIOS or through INTEL XTU.
And about Intel lied....Actually they do, i'm sure what they've done is just changed the microcode the make your MB unable to recognize older CPUs ,
the truth is we've found out all 100,200,300 chipsets can support through all 4 generations of 6,7,8 and 9 with a simple bios MOD,
not only chinese MB can do that, just add in the microcode of the generation of the cpu you want,
even a h110 can perfectly support a 9900k, and a z390 can run a 6700k,
and we've also seen some chinese geeks had a breakthrough to run a Xeon E-2186G on a Z170 motherboard.
The home gaming ITX rig i'm using myself, is using a i7 9700K engineering sample with a ASUS Z170i PRO GAMING,
and it worked just fine with a GTX 1080Ti and DDR4 3000 and even overclockable...
because In HK 100 and 200 MB are dirt cheap, like around US$15~US$20 to get a perfect condition 2nd handed ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI, ASROCK....etc
And also because we HK buyer wont have to pay extra transport fee to get those cheap server retired ECC RAM and cheap CPUs form taobao and aliexpress,
I3 8100 and i5 8400 on a h110 and b150 MB become one of my best choice besides X79 and Lga 1156 to build budget gaming PCs with.
thats why i'm always messing with all those bios adding in the CPU microcode i needed, So I'm pretty sure with this~
you just search online and you can easily find packed microcode module to add into EFI bios,
its just as simple as adding a NVMe support to 2~4 gen MB,
And BTW, almost every DDR3 MB can do ECC REG support too, also a little mod of the BIOS will do....
this deserves top comment/pinned
I'm just commenting in case there are updates on this
Pin this
Linus pin this message when
You really should go to the top. I am looking forward to watch if you make a video about this.
If you do so, please add "Intel Liars" in the title.
I can see why Linus isn’t on good terms with Intel.
He really tries to piss them off lol
@@martinquintana2458 you say that like its a bad thing they were busted lying...
I was just thinking this
that is why i switch to AMD RYZEN
they are straight to the point!
@@jacksonflynnveitch1502 the extra 2fps you get for the extra $300 you pay is clearly worth it...... /s
>whinges about $50 funky motherboard
>drops $8000 cpu
@Silent 93x Linus was just taking the piss. Obviously a $50 part they can dedicate a video to is a good deal.
Is not adout cpu but adoute ddr3 memory
which would still work if configured correctly. It's a bit too tedious to do for Anthony and Linus considering this was meant to be a quick 'fun' video.
"50 dollar so it wasn't that cheap" *he said holding a multi thousand dollar rtx titan*
@@efirizaki5656 taht spellign is so abd
People in comments: We need more Anthony
*Linus makes more videos with Anthony*
People in comments: WE NEED MORE ANTHONY
This isn't even his final Anthony (form)!
We nee more Denis
Anthony died for our sins.. ok not
We need a new brexit... Linus or Anthony 🤘🏼
Anthony deserves a Hug (:
ONDA is actually is reputable affordable motherboard brand in China.
You're probably right, but honestly, it's not because it's not a known international brand that it means it's shit or sketchy, especially considering a 50bucks mobo looks exactly like that
@@gideonschwalbe many brands in China don't care about selling to the rest of the world .....Onda is a good brand
@@gideonschwalbe it is weird, since they're not in China. It's weird in the purest denotation of the word.
I've even seen them make (shit) e-readers and cheapo tablets.
I have an ONDA tablet (V989) that sold pretty well in the west in 2014.
*Intel did an oopsie*
lol, you also just saw UFD tech news?
It’s a pewds reference mate ^.^
So many oopsies today!
oopsie doopsie
An Oopsie doopsie
Anthony is such a great guy. Love it! Keep him close and put him in more videos Linus!
was about to say the same, always interesting and pertinent! Love that guy
@@CanoeBoi that's exactly what I thought
more Anthony please, your most knowledgeable employee
What about Ivan tho
He reminds me of Wendell in a way
That board is $9.95 in Hong Kong, greedy American distributor;)
classic
see, hearing that makes me feel bad for the mobo company. if both sides were always honest,
it would only mean profit for all involved. and unfortunately even linus here made a ton of money, showing off that 10 dollar board.
that's the world we live in today. a sick and dying planet for the sake of profit, kind of world.
@@unrealengine1enhanced planet is ok. Humans are f**ked. (c) George Carlin
@@unrealengine1enhanced yeah but that company just got a free 15-minute shout out. Win-win for both Linus and Ando (Undo? Honda? whatever)
but on aliexpress it's freaking 113.48 dollars... imagine being that crazy about something like this... the other h310c ones are 53 - 61 dollars
I wonder how Linus found out about aliexpress and realized it's a goldmine for videos.
the chances of someone coming across aliexpress is like... 1 in 3.8 billion
@@workshop9091 there'd be like 4 users on aliexpress if that were true
moth unless one of the four was a RUclipsr with millions of subscribers O_o r/conspiracytheories
U serious?
@@workshop9091 So I'm 1 out of 3.8 billion? Hell, yeah.
Intel lied, what a surprise...
*surprised pikachu face*
Suomi jeejee
Didn’t they say „could not work“? At least that’s what he said in the beginning.
Some capitalism-driven company lied, what a surprise...
@@MegaFregel will this video show me hacks? Hope so
ONDA, it used to be called ondata, Chinese 昂达.
In fact, this is a very old brand in China. Not in 1st tier but still good.
Oh now i remember where i know the name from! Certainly crossed my path as a manufacturer of OEM components shared by a number of brands, tablets and slim Atom laptops, as i was looking for replacement parts to repair some of my items.
Laughs with my real old onda laptop. Serves me well enough with it's N3450
@@tridiots3681 Do they make laptop???????????? I never heard of that
@@FAhentai yes.
didn't they make the dvd drive for the xbox 360 or something?
DDR3 was used for the first-gen i7-920
DDR3 is being used on the eighth-gen i7-8700k
Wow
ddr3 was also used on the last gen Core2 Duo and Quad series. my HP 8000 had ddr3 and an E8400. and now there are also 9th gen Chinese boards with ddr3.
There were some odd boards in the past. Like LGA775 with DDR1 and AGP.
The difference is that on those older platforms the memory controller was in the board, not the CPU.
so? ddr3 was used for quite a few core 2 series chips. its not terribly slow.
@@eclipsegst9419 775 boards had memory controllers built in to motherboard. There are even DDR4 775 motherboards.
@@staideystalking1850 name?
Linus is the guy that takes an 8k Red, disassemble it and get mad for 50 bucks motherboards LOL
Regardless of how wealthy you become, you'll always want to complain about the price of gas.
it's the "worth" factor we all know the RED cameras shoot professional level. But this is an aliexpress "no name" mobo not exactly a good comparison. He also did complain about the prices and how RED rips off their customers in a rant video
lmao bro I physically laughed out loud.
still a bad comparison his RED cameras will get use and they have a warranty that they have already had chance to use while this motherboard is brand-less from aliexpress without warranty
That thing costed like a hundred grand...
"Intel quality control standards"=
"does it bring us more money?"
"no"
"then is not up to our QC standards!"💸😒
just like nvidia and their "gsync compatible" freesync monitors
Last I checked, Intel was a business and not a charity. They need to make money or not stay in business. I think sometimes it costs more with diminishing returns to go backwards than to just concentrate on going forward? So, YEAH, how dare them want to make money!!
@@kirkb4989 Intel is making lots of money, that argument is invalid
kirkb4989 I see what you are saying but just as "they are a buisness", we are the consumers, and although it may be their goal to make more money, it is our duty to make sure we are getting the best quality for the most reasonable price. The moment we start saying "well, of course Intel is charging high prices and deliberately excluding features, they are a *buisness*", it is this moment where we have failed as consumers as we are simply allowing validation to whatever price they charge. It's like saying "well, of course RAM prices are so high, Samsung has to make money somehow! They are, after all, a *buisness*"
@@kirkb4989 Shady business practices is not the way, they could had backward compatibility like AMD does but obviously with a newer chipset that can take advantages of the new CPU you will have an advantage over using your old Motherboard, obviously you will have a little bit less sales and board partners might not be as happy, but the truth is the truth and hiding it does not make it less of a lie. Intel was taking your money for over 10 years, they sat on their arses and did no deliver real improvements since they did not even needed to, there was no competition, their improvements were minimal at best, and it took AMD to come back with an 8 core CPU that kind of sucked for them to start to really improve and be semi-competitive again... and now.... well now they will see what happens when you get stagnant for so long.
Anthony’s Tech Tips with his quirky assistant Linus
For real
ATT
Linus should do an All-no-name component gaming build... No MSI, No Intel, No AMD, etc. 😂.... without being scammed
Austin Hruskach “without getting scammed” that’s gunna be tough LOL
No Intel, no AMD. So VIA? Probably not.
I did succeed to do that, since I didn't needed a graphics card haha
@@mattykobs yea but xeons are still intel XD
@@nguyenitwindows392 closest they can do are mystery engineering samples of what are otherwise intel or amd cpus
Anthony's screen presence is really coming along. I approve.
@Jazz Fat joke? Seriously?
...okay, I grinned at least. But that's still not what I meant.
Sure it is, he knows his stuff, but he has to close that mouth, it's in dangerous territory
He needs to lose some weight though. I don’t want him dying an early death!
True story. Hope to see more of him
*i too agree*
Linus: 50 bucks?!
Also Linus: entire computer in oil
entire computer in oil isnt stupid, his other jank projects, not so much.
@Universal Link bro i watch youtube at 360p, all the time.
just proving your point
Universal Link with 360p
@Universal Link Filming at 8K makes sense because it gives you a huge buffer for editing and ending at 4k. You can crop stuff out, or pan the video smoothly all in post, since you have so many extra pixels you can cut out.
@Robin Rai
In the latest WAN show Linus says he's going to blow "about a quarter million dollars" to pay for LTX...
Linus: *Scolds Anthony for spending $50 on a mobo for a video*
Also Linus: *Spends $7,000 on a see-through TV for a video*
Which he returned. Linus doesn't pay for most of the stuffs he show.
If this was sponsored by Intel lol
"Intel lied...." Sponsored by Intel
Nah... Linus owns too many AMD shares to not throw shade on Intel.
@@ElectricityTaster hasnt he been sponsored by Intel before
@Intelligence Injection i think Nvidia does actually
Either way, he is a bit disrespectful to his sponsors, when he includes in the video that he can't even remember the name of the company that sponsored him. I certainly wouldn't sponsor him.
@@SwuaveWEB its all about the publicity.
The limitation is not DDR3, 8700K on this board is limited by power (up to 65W maby). 6C cpu can't get full turbo boost on it , you need XTU to remove that limitation (newer bios may also works). If you put an 8100 on it, the performance will be very very close .
True
大师球
False. The power limit of any motherboard can’t be below the cpu’s rated tdp (in this case 95W). Also the 8700K at stock (4.3GHZ all cores) running Cinebench R15 consumes way less power than its rated power of 95W. You only hit 95W when running Prime 95 with AVX2 workload. So, no, the 8700K was not limited by power. There two reasons for the difference in performance. The first is DDR3. The second is that for the Z370 board they had multicore enhancement enabled running the 8700K at 4.7GHz on all cores instead of the stock 4.3GHz.
MCE on with DDR4: 1536 (I have seen with MCE on going up to 1583)
Stock (MCE off) with DDR4: 1430
Stock with DDR3: 1254-1258
大師球
大师球
50 bucks ain't bad for someone who found a good deal on an 1151 CPU to upgrade his PC and doesn't have the budget to upgrade to DDR4 RAM.
I was shopping for my PC in Singapore last year. This motherboard is crazy common in custom PC building shops for low end builds. I'm currently running an i3-9100f on a H110 chipset board, also by this Onda brand, and it's working perfectly fine. Got full performance out of it, and the 1600 mhz RAM I'm using.
6:42 "aaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.......ooooooooooohhhhhhhh"
-Linus 2019
That poor board almost snapped in half when linus popped in the RTX :D
It got RapedTX. Just like us, but by the price. Please, amd, rysen the graphics!
Glad to see linus is trying to help the relationship between him and Intel😂😂
Guess he won't be receiving that free Xeon for his project...
He did quip that he and intel are not on the best of terms at the moment in the 6 workstation one pc build.
Nicholas Beer lol
Was it something more recent than Linus' bitch-fest about X299 that pissed off Intel (like that one about how Intel "killed their own product lineup")?
And it's a really good thing. He doesn't give a F for Intel and show the true about this company instead the lies that blue team told to everyone
Me: Watching LTT
RUclips: Shows ad with Linus as the actor
Morning boss!
bruh
Yeah happens with me a lot
The first time I thought it was some small skit they just made
Best video in a while guys. I really enjoyed the banter while still explaining the technology. Thanks for posting.
BTW der8auer already did a Video about that. He was able to run a 9900k (9th Gen) on a Z270 (7th Gen) Board. By simply taping certain Pins. The only downside is that the Amps per Pin rises and MAY degrade the CPU a bit faster. But he also was able to OC the 9th Gen CPU to 5GHz like normal. But still Intel lied.
@@MrMatthewb9876 That isn't the point, the point is it COULD have been easily cross compatible and intel didn't so they could rake in more cash
@@MrMatthewb9876 Well the mainboard could simple disable/ignore those and it would work PERFECTLY fine. 9900k is an extreme example, but a 8700k would run without any danger on older chipsets, the amount of amps per pin would be withint safety limits, also long term.
@@cptcrogge Which is probably a breach of contract for motherboard manufacturers.
@@myownsite Not, if Intel allowed it.
I was about to mention the der8auer video but figured someone would've already done it lol
📂 INTEL
└📁Good Deals
└⚠️ *This folder is empty*
very clever, i love it
How long have you been waiting to use that one 😂
@@dubklanky9035 I just save my comments to .txt and recycle them when needed xD
But yea I originally posted this 4 mounts ago
Oh no no
@@dubklanky9035
Just wait for something Intel titled. Another day another Intel sinkhole. I think the next bad ass telescope will find "intel inside" in the next black hole discovered.
Chinese Gamers:Is the new generationCPU still using LGA1151?
Intel:Yes.
Chinese Gamers:Z170 YES!
Intel:F**K
U mean Nissan z170
@@l2m773 No,I mean z170 motherboard,it's for 6th gen intel core series
@@l2m773 that doesn't exist lol
@@aretard7995 oh lol yeah my bad
It's great coming back to these videos after so many years. But one thing I noticed right off the bat is the lack of VRM cooling, which would offer significantly less performance due to throttling. Not sure if this was truly the case when comparing both scores, but to my knowledge that would make a rather sizeable difference.
At least its just a cheap board, perfect for i3's and stuff
your initial test was running on a mobo with factory overclocks. for comparison an all core 5Ghz overclock will get about 1650. it was performing quite normally in the $50 mobo
First
Wussup ma ngga
I love you
This is what I thought too, not the RAM clocks.
When are we going to get csgo on a slot 1 Pentium 3 benchmarked?
Your buddy Anthony there should do more tests and reviews on his own. He knows his stuff and has a great voice for it. Also he knows where to plug in the HDMI cable
Clearly knows more than that Linus fellow. This is the first video of Linus that I've watched and holy crap I am not impressed with his lack of basic hardware knowledge. His amazement over a mini-itx form factor is just silly. Bet the guy hasn't even heard of BTX or any of the others...
ToolofSociety you’re not serious, are you?
@@ripstick2217 Completely serious I had a hard time watching him because he just kept making dumb comments about the motherboard. Jumpers were a standard thing on all motherboards for decades and he can't even understand that simple concept. As stated earlier he also doesn't understand there are different form factors out there when he was making his comparison. It's superficial, stupid and irrelevant to the subject at hand.
@@ripstick2217 he is serious 😂 aye, makes for a good laugh though. I guess everyone who hasn't watched LTT more than once doesn't know that linus likes to act like an idiot just for the hell of it.
@@lunartigersora4690 I expected actual useful information on a channel that calls itself a tech channel. Not "Omg it's small and uses jumpers wtfmate???". Like I said this was my first video of his and I can see it's not worth my time if this is as technical as he gets.
I'm old enough to remember when intel didn't change sockets every tick so you could run multiple generations of intel CPUs in the same socket. Intel's mindset has changed since then. If Intel had it's way you would buy motherboards with a CPU already soldered in.
Somehow you tricked me into watching 15 minutes worth of video about a product I will never buy. Maybe that helps explain your 8.6 million subs.
So... Why you watched it?
@@mrgame4 So...Why you type this?
Now he has 9M subs.....
update late 2019 9.81m
10m
I want to see Linus attempt a full chinese PC build. Chinese CPU, GPU, Motherboard, RAM, case/fans, everything.
already did that, literally assembled it in the street of bejing if i remember (with strangeparts participation)
@@smlkat It was Huaqiangbei (華強北), which is in Shenzhen.
@@xueming1994 ... That's a lot of subtitles in the top. Are they channel/sponsor messages or something? No way all that is the audio transcription.
@@CRiley-zx1ws They are called "bullet comments". They can be disabled via a button below the video.
@@deepseer can i get a english speaking china man from ebay cheaper than just buying a msi mobo
Linus exposes Intel
Does this mean no more free and early access Hardware. 😲
He drops 100G's for servers like they're nothing. He can afford dem prices.
It means he deffinately will Get a new xeon for his 100 000$ PC
anthony is such a relaxed guy, i like him.
Me too! His experience and technical knowledge is also amazing!
He should have his own video's maybe a lighter version of Buildzoid?
He knows random stuff and has a lot experience
He is me when I am older
@@timrattenbury5321 Anthony is a Networking guy like me. Except he works for LMS and I work at an IT Department.
His voice is so calming, perfect for explaining tech things !
@@Joshe505reborn TBH, Anthony is clearly a knowledgeable and evidently, a good guy...But for his own health's sake, he should consider losing some pounds. Too much weight is a bad thing for his future health, trust me as I lost my Dad to a heart attack at 45 due to weight issues, it's not a good thing for anyone, himself and family included.
Intel: We don't have enough intel to make it work.
China: It works. Who said it can't?
Customers: (Point at Intel)
Intel: Oopsie!
How nasty does Intel have to be as a company before people even CONSIDER purchasing AMD products?
They have such a long and storied history of patent trolling, antitrust, buying benchmarks etc. They fight technical competition with marketing and lawsuits. Just look at the Athlon64 vs The Pentium 4. The Athlon was technically superior, but Intel won through mindshare and backroom deals. AMD beat Intel to 64 bit, multicore AND the 1ghz barrier, but still couldn't compete with Intel's marketing machine. Shameful.
Intel is, and always has been a nasty, anti-technology company that doesn't deserve your money.
I haven't bought an Intel CPU chip since 1996. All of my current and previous builds were AMD and Cyrix (RIP) CPU. :)
Intel getting the big IBM deal when Motorola had the best processors of the time was a bit of a question mark too.
now they should test every single motherboard and see if intel really lied
oh wait
Thats how Intel had done business, since the 90s, i recall.
Have you learned nothing from windows vs linux? You can't win the market vs evil with a technically inferior product.
Why bother with this? Everyone knows SouljaBoards are the future as they can use both Intel and AMD CPUs and you can download as much RAM as you wish.
INTEEEL?!?!?
With SouljaGraphics™ in it. Runs every game at a min. 420 fps
What is this soulja thing ?
@Hexo2000 yeah but where does it originated ?
@@watchme9463 With Soulja Boy buying thousands of cheap Chinese knockoff consoles and reselling them as SouljaGame™ at a higher price.
*onda mobo joined the chat*
*Intel left the chat*
I like this type of videos you make . For me iys interesting to see how older components run on newer one and newer on old . BTW did you benchmark the 7700k ?
Love the aspect ratio, first saw Michael Fischer do this and I hope Google builds the aspect zoom option into the desktop website like they have into the iOS/android app. Not having black bars on a laptop or desktop would be a cool option that we've had on mobile and would probably promote more RUclipsrs to think about whether they should move to an alternative aspect ratio based on their viewers average choice of consumption device.
Do they give you guys usage statistics to that degree? Like 80% of your user base watches on 16:9, 10% on 3:2, 5% on 18:9 3% on 19:9, 2% on others?
You know someone's getting exposed when Anthony walks in
Why do so many have this guy with sunglasses as profile picture?!?
its the deus ex protagonist , i noticed the same too , i think its a malware that makes us see users that have x pic as that character , lay off the porn
oh yeah yeah
@@juanme555 dammit, I knew something was off with the cat site I go to regularly..
@@j0nk0movies I came here to seriously ask this. Any video I watch has at least 1 of these.
WHAT?! Anthony is evolving?!
Never seen Anthony this cool, relaxed and natural on screen. Dude has gained the confidence and I'm so happy he's a true LTT character now.
PROTIP: Just shit on Linus for anything he does wrong and the audience will love you.
GuvernorDave basically lol
not reely...
@@whiteeyedshadow8423 "reely"
He is no longer Anthony.. His evolved name is Antonio..
@@whosmyth1c no...i dont appreciate anyone shitting on anyone
That broken search at 10:53 cracked me up so much. And here I thought it was just me...
And now my 4th gen intel mobile CPU was transplanted to a desktop motherboard. And I use adapter to put LPDDR3 onto regular DDR3 socket. It's quite funny to see a M-ATX case saying that it has a mobile CPU and desktop GPU at the same time, with RAM type being SODIMM.
Lying is one of Intel's fundamental values
No, overheating is
@@ForNoReason1000 how? I had so many Intel CPUs and never had issues
@@bluethefur1496 *Cough* Pentium 4
@@itIsI988 Cough ruclips.net/video/06MYYB9bl70/видео.html
So many people posting unrelated videos, let me post a good one:
ruclips.net/video/osSMJRyxG0k/видео.html
Every time Linus stabs a screen with his fingers I die a little inside
hahaha I know.
It's like watching a cooking video where the cook spits on the dough or something like that
I have one of these... kinda. Bought a pre-built i3-9100f PC and didn't realize 'till later that it was running on DDR3 on a H110 when I was wondering why it only performed 2/3rds as fast.
I could smell those boards when you did the compare... I thought I was having a stroke 🙈
Meanwhile AMD commit to supporting their AM4 socket for multiple generations with full backwards compatibility
laughs at intel in AM2+ DDR2 790FX mobo supporting everything from 1-core Sempron to 6-core Phenom and 38 PCIe lines
giggles along with you while running my fx 8 core at 5ghz and posting cinebench scores better than most 3770ks.... go team red
r/ayymd
*laughs in hyperthreading
ooh im really looking forward for my upgrade of the Ryzen 1600 XD
Do we have a ''normal'' mAtx mobo which we can compare it to?
''pulls out a ROG Strix 200+ euro motherboard''
"windows is good" xD
I love Anthony, if he's in the thumbnail, I click so fast. More Anthony please! He is such a wizard.
He’s the guy you think of when the computer says the wizard is installing software
Interesting... Just a little comment about the ad at the end : we can't even know how the case looks like since you only show its back panel along close-up captures.. lol
Build a whole PC out of these weird Chinese things. That socket-adapted mobile CPU in this board, some random Chinese 4.75GB GPU ... Would be fun to see
please? i would love that so much
Onda isn't even that weird for being a Chinese brand... It's been there for ages, and not considered "cheapest" because Colorful is a thing.
@@FlameRat_YehLon not the brand - I'm talking about the product as being weird. Because... It is. It's pretty far out of official specs for an H310 chipset.
@@mjsvitek Well... TBH it looks more like a motherboard for HTPC rather than gaming PC, as it's small and got only barebone amount of expandability.
@@jimmypuppo3965 IKR !! If I remember correctly, some Chinese company was making a whole case out of tempered glass and acrylic... that'd be awesome
Big Company
Well you can't....
Some Chinese Guy
>hold my rice bowl...
14:23 what if i skipped to the end? WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, LINUS?
ha, O man you got me to LOL with that nice cut to Anthony's "Windows is good" comment after Linus's buildup of complaining about the Cortana search. Good editing!
Let's see what intel did the last few years to screw over their costumers:
- Intel thermally sabotaged their chips before finally going back to a soldered chip in the 9th gen. Sabotaged because you could get up to 20°C decrease by delidding 8th gen CPUs.
- we were soled the same 14nm chip with some minor improvements over the last 4 generations. I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for AMD we would still have 4 Core i5 Chips.
- Intel lied to us about compatibility of the 6th-9th gen chips, forcing us to buy new boards. Look at Der8auer's recent video where he checked how much voltage a pin could take.
- Intel 9th gen i7 chips have less hyper threads than the 8th gen version only so they could justify the i9 chip at a ridiculous price.
- non K version of intel's lineup have a lot of OC potential but they forbid the board manufacturers to unlock it (look for skylake non K OC)
westcliff23 9th gen cpu like 9900k and 9980xe are soldered.but intel using some cheap material to solder it so
=>unable to delid it
=>thermal throttling still exist
@@thanhanle3879 buildzoid been talking about that solder thing. the main problem isn't the solder itself but heat density.
Intel has been using shitty TIM for awhile now, really since ivybridge/3xxx parts. They've also been kings of arbitrary performance paywalls.
They got away with it because AMD couldn't compete with bulldozer and now that they're getting bested by Ryzen all over their markets they're having a hard time making anything compelling. Also, Intel's 10nm fabs really suck still, so we're not going to see them best the 7nm Ryzen parts any time soon, which is why we've seen their power density go through the roof with the 8 and 9th gen parts. They have no choice because AMD's 1st gen 7nm parts are already getting more clock per watt and it's only going to get better from here.
They also fucked AMD with legal fees, after paying off system manufacturers, not to use AMD, back when AMD held all performance crowns.
It’s the basic money making strategy. Intel and many other tech companies have always been doing this to force us, the consumers, to buy their new products which makes us think the older hardware is obsolete...
This shit is making me wonder if I could jam an i9-9900K into my Z170 mobo :)
@@devilsoffspring5519 unforunately no, but you might be able to get away with an i7 9700K. Sorry I went AMD I did not feel like getting fucked in the ass by intel. Instead of listening to keyboard warriors on online forums. I did my reasearch for what I wanted in a CPU and went AMD. Not trying to sound like a dick just saying.
and here I am with a Q9550 and 6gigs of ddr2 ram Gskill on a pc built in 2010 running window 10 64 bit pro and using a evga 1030 gt too cheap/poor too go get a i7 and DDR4 hmm I need linus too pimp my PC
I upgrade my pc at least every 4 years. unless there is some magical tech advancement. I upgrade my case never unless I want a new case. my Dell XPS which came with a core 2 quad lasted me 7 years. I kept the hard drives, PSU, all fans, but had to get another sealed water cooling as it wasn't compatible with the 4th gen i5. I also upgraded the gfx to a gtx 780. was a cheap upgrade. then upgraded to 8th gen i7, the reason for the upgrades isn't because the hardware is obsolete, because it isn't. my girlfriend uses her i5 4670k for gaming and it works perfectly with a gtx 1080. If I was only gaming, then I would have still been on the i5 system but doing spec FX calls for more power to be more productive. also rocking a mac pro 2012 for most video work. if most of my workflow was in 4k I would probably upgrade to a newer Mac. no need to upgrade every year.
When they said, in sync
"1333, yeah"
They're such a dynamic duo lol
13:19: I can go to 8 cores on my motherboard from 2009 I bought in 2016, though to be fair it is a dual CPU server motherboard.
I love Anthony. Please have him in more videos!
Yeah, I love his undercooled mic drops. He should get his own show on LMG
He's fluffy.
+1
I like Anthony too... but everytime I look at him I think: Staypuff Marshmellow man.
He is just so pure.
Intel Intel Intel...... Ur just giving AMD a better look....
So what if AMD is better
@@userrrrrru It isnt for everything
Yet... Ryzen 2 might change that.
@@factstrumpfeelings3061 All AMD needs is either better IPC or clockspeeds to destroy intel. Based off of the CES presentation, with what seemed to be their mid range chip engineering sample, it looks like they did both.
@@watersnortmoment3734 INCOMING PREMIUM COSTS.
@@watersnortmoment3734 As skelath said costs will increse and we dont know to what end yet. We need to wait until launch to see if its better.
Great review, I would love to see a review of a pair of Chinese boards. They use unconventional sockets and it could be a way to save money on a build. There's a socket 1356 motherboard that can use an E5 2470 v2 (10 core 20 thread), and a socket G34 that can use Opteron 6386 SE (16 core).
6:43 He went from Aaaeyyyyy to Oooooooo very quickly 😂😂😂😂
He did it. I laughed it because it
Wait is he really getting mad at 50 bucks?
50 bucks for a motherboard is cheap, and i'm a cheap ass so yeah. Not sure what he's getting his panties in a twist about. From the guy who makes a 100k computer. Like what?!
@@youtubasoarus Yeah I don't know if it's a joke or not? Considering he compares it to a normal ATX board that is like 300 USD
@@youtubasoarus I love Linus but he's a bit weird about money/prices/worth sometimes.
I think he got mad because it's from China.
@@esuelle it's not weird he said it right in the video the reason he thinks its not a great deal is that you lose half the features of boards that cost 10 or 20 more... it's not about not being as good as the 300 dollar board that's just a test bench, its about what that board competes with...
More weird Chinese tech, this is like crack to me.
More interesting too
Yea I love experimental shit
Aliexpress have become the source of inspirations
@Fuert Neigt How much does China pay you to shill on their oppressive behalf?
msi and asus are chinese and many more
6:06 Linus imitating The Count. Okay lol. :D
Anthony seems like a chill, cool to hang out with dude. He reminds me of some of my friends from college.
I do wonder when the Aliexpress sponsor will happen
Delivery for said sponsorship with take months lol
@@BrettAnderson3 or maybe not select free china mail delivery? other mail providers ships withing 3-7 days
hassan nawaz it adds 200 dollar shipping lmO
Intel wants to know your location.
For a computer repair shop it's an excellent piece of tech to test used CPU's. I'll be looking at grabbing a couple - thx for the tip :)
Complaining about a 50 dollar mb ..... Should see how much pc tech costs in the UK lol
Ikr!
I guess Taran just got another stream deck?
Or 20...50...100
Well, the last one for the Ad spot was claimed by Taran.
Intel Intel
Yes papa?
Misinforming consumers?
No papa!
Telling lies?
No papa!
Use the Chinese Motherboard.
Ha ha ha!
Oh yeah yeah
Nice !!
Quality comment
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Fa11 ROFL!
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who goes "aahhh ahhh ahhh" when counting 😂😂
Those were/are common boards for use with J1900 low power soldered on Intel processors. They just used a 1151 socket instead of the solder patch.
Intel: *Maniacal laughter*
I'm the second to comment of a Justin Y. Comment....
This is the highlight of my 2019! 😎😎😎
@@marlmyster seems like u have no life.
Omg the real Justin Y I subbed to u J btw
hello again
Get away
The -cake- motherboard is a lie
Spongebob SquarePants i still want portal 3 :(
@@Mac-tw3zu valve can't count to 3 so that unfortunately will never happen
@@bobbobingson3710 Ok, they should give us Portal 4 then.
Only 90's kids get this reference.
the most popular reasonable priced gaming setup in China here now is X79, E5-2670v2 with server R.ECC RAM i think. the 100 series BIOS mods for 8 gen is fairly common but not that cheap enough though
They should just make one like some of the old ddr2 and ddr3 boars but with 8 dims for ddr3 and ddr4, 4 each.... be spectacular.... As long as they went in HARD on mode bios for overclocking and stability.... HECK, Maybe an overclock for the average cpu (silicone) of each that fit to go higher then most companies..... Super Micro making non k cpus overclock was also a nice FEAT and a "FEAT" at that....
Reality:
"DDR3 Is for peasants" - Intel
it is though
poor people life
i still use ddr2
good old DDR 1 times, my grandma remembers
reality check intel stocks are shit. enjoy your lies!
Back in the day I had an i5 2nd gen and when my mobo died it was hard to find one to replace it, having a motherboard that around that can support old and new CPUs sounds like a amazing idea to keep older machines running
I wish that Linus would do a video showing off the BIOS mod for Z170 and Z270 that grants them the Coffee Lake microcodes, enabling those motherboards to run Coffee Lake. Yes, this has actually been done by many people and the steps are well documented!
I was awaiting the Doug score at the end, before ad.
Has Anthony lost weight? He's looking really well and comes across much more confident on-screen :)
I love that dude.
He is a swole boy, but a good boy.
This is actually the first video I've seen him in, but he seems like a really chill dude who knows what he's talking about. I'd definitely like to see him in more videos
Yeah, he knows his stuff with research and experience.
Of all people in LMG, he’s the only one that’d use a soldering iron instead of angle grinder when he needs to get rid of a DVI connector
Hate to say it but I was thinking he had put on weight. By the looks of him I doubt it’s just over eating. Probably some uncontrollable health issue. Just my opinion though.
Glad to see my DDR3 is relevant again...
DDR was awesome back in my days like 2002
You will likely damage your CPU's IMC using DDR3
@@churchseraphim1380 Nah. 1.5V is safe and I don't think 1.65V would do too much harm (not recommending above 1.5V tho)
That StreamDeck thing looks a lot like the Optimus Mini Six designed by Art Lebedev in Moscow years ago.
What's onda board?
Now they need one that also has DDR4 lanes too
S. Smith when 1151 was first launched to the market，some strange boards appeared in Taobao，which have both DDR4 supported and DDR3 supported，in that I didn’t buy this kind of product , I just learned about it from the description of the goods, they seem to have 2 DDR3 lanes and 2 DDR4 lanes .
Linus complaining about a $50 motherboard... Drops and breaks a $10,000 CPU.
Or how he fears bricking the 9900k . Linus in a nutshell
And makes a 100k computer. :/
"out comes the officially supported 8700K and in goes the unsupported 7700K" ... these gangsters.
you think $50 for a motherboard is expensive?
For one with almost nothing on it, yeah. You can get a better board for cheaper, so it's overpriced *for what it is*.
Can you get a $50 motherboard that will run a 9900K tho? @@Recreatorify
@@sheik124 If you have 9900K, will you buy 50 USD mobo? :D
@@corwinblack4072 speak proper English thanks
@@sheik124 If its just to "run", then maybe. Definitely wouldnt try OC. Something from eBay most likely. And it would need to be tweaked to actually run at that 95W TDP.
IN china we also enable a lot board Z170\270 chipset runs i5-8600 or lower AND make some board runs i7-8700 or higher.(Althougt those boards only support control 4 cores in UEFI .)
This says a lot about society. And yet, we live in one.
@@kiyoponnn no u
Lmao
@@kiyoponnn who the fuck pissed in your cereal?
@@keithscott9219 not another Keith, hows the flat earth infiltration going
@@u1tim822 good I will destroy every last normie I'm 6 foot 5 I will crush them all
Chinese >>> Shows [someone] lied
Excuse me what the
餅子
I searched 餅子 and all I got was pictures of pastries
@@eric4946 so basically "what the pastry."
饼子？ pancake？
@@yerlan0716 okay changed to "what the pancake."
You need to be a 105% slav king to understood this
"Either it will work, and it will be oh amazing, or there will be a fire" - Classic!
yooooo why didnt you show that cinebench r15 score?