Cheap AliExpress Graphics Cards - SCAM???
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Linus disappointed that he wasn't disappointed.
😂😂😂
Imagine if he was disappointed. "Well there you have it, I'm finally relieved that I'm disappointed!"
The Linus classic
With some luck u can dig some good shit in Chinese market.
OMG, my feel my abdominal muscle grows because I laugh too hard
Make an aliexpress pc build
I second that
i picked up a i7 4790K from aliexpress for $170
x5650 and huanan x58 motherboard would be cool
I already made two hell I still had one when I built the other they are both gone now sadly went the way of the dodo
I actually want this so bad... Maybe for Christmas
Surprise 1: They got the card
Surprise 2: They payed triple digits for the cards
Surprise 3: They worked
Surprise 4: They were legit
Surprise 5: Linus didn’t drop anything
triple digits would mean 9.99 at max, if you mean in the hundreds then 5 digits i guess??????????????????or am i wrong do not take me for real i’m dumb
@@swordcrafted I guess that would depend on where you live. In the US, we generally don't count cents when listing the price or the number of digits. As any amount of money under a dollar is practically useless
Ultrathemeus
I thought it’s given that when someone says “triple digit”, it is automatically above $100
@@swordcrafted That nerd moment
@@janklas7079 which one?
Bought GPU on Aliexpress.
Expect to get scammed.
Didn't get scammed.
Cards works perfectly.
Still being skeptical about everything.
:D
pretty same feel here XD
Likewise, but maybe less if he went more in-depth with it, mainly how thermal works.
It'll work, just not as good
Triggered Feminist I mean, it is basically recycled. But I guess if you can, just swap out the cooler for a better one and it should probably last a while.
TRUE STORY..
2:58 'There's nothing really ELSA'bout it that sets off warning bells.'
No.
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Well Elsa is huge in Japan and Maxsun is huge in Chinese markets, so they ought to be legit.
I used to own an ELSA Gladiac Geforce 2 GTS
The answer is simple lol, the original does not actually cost that much to produce but is sold for way more than it's worth.
R&D my friend, it costs a FUCK TON of money to develop the shit Nvidia develops, it's not all about manufacturing dummy.
John Douglas yeah well then geforce 2 should cost hundreds still
you really don't understand business and logistics do you? they factor the cost of R&D and profit in the price frame for the general expected retail run of a product, which is roughly two years ATM, then a new model comes out because they can do new R&D based on their profit run and we have the next generation.
it's not friken rocket science. ignorance must be pure bliss to some.
if you compare products with inflation and what not in mind, the price of graphics cards hasn't changed bugger all since the first 3d cards came out.
Not to mention other expenses; machinery, dividends, inventory, supplies, uncollectible receivables, logistics (under inventory), staff salaries.
It's not hard to ascertain that some of these people are still flipping burgers in their mid 20s to late 40s, and still wonder why.
it is normal they always do this in the industry first make the cost back off their R&D before they start selling a new product and then make the pattern for that product cheaper and more available for other companies. That goes for nearly all industry their is be it vehicle, pharmaceutical or hardware component.
Spend a lot of time analyzing the heatsink, but I see no temp readings or overclocks. :(
I hope there is a follow up video on this where he has stress tested these parts and put them in actual computers and not just benchmarking devices. I want to see how the cheap cooling methods hold up against extended play time and things as such because if these things actually turn out to be a good idea to buy, this could be a way to show the company that they need to bring in the 5GB cards and people can stop paying so much for cards until the prices drop back down to what they used to be.
kapton tape. to stop the connector being soldered during wave soldering
It's the method every manufacture uses... That's what the tape is designed for.
Sept 2019 update: can now get those same cards for a fraction of the price... 2-3GB for $125, 5-6GB for $210-240 (US prices), not much cheaper than new from reputable sites (and likely more expensive once you add in shipping).
maxxun is actually a well known brand in prc, it has been for decades, mainly focus on low end or budget segment.
edit: it is fairly safe to buy newer gen chinese branded graphics card, if you're not sure, check the brand's website for exact SKU.
edit2: most web cafes in china don't really have very high-end system b/c most of them are serving schoolboys who plays LoL, crossfire etc. only til recently go high-end machine due to Plunkbat.
Yeah I have a maxsun motherboard that was bought in china, and its still functioning normally after 2 years straight use
De Broglie (pronounced De Broy ) was a Belgian guy who theorised and proved that if a wave can act as a particle, a particle can act as a wave and devised the formula: wavelength=Planck's constant (6.63*10^-34)/mass*velocity. Chances are the name is used because something in the GPU uses this concept
2:57 nothing really ELSA-bout it that sets of warning bells.
I've rarely been disappointed by hardware from China (if ever). It's definitely not a scam if your expectations are realistic.
*After i tell you abou-*
Me: *SKIIIIIPPPP*
Edit: Thanks for the likes btw, i can't believe you've done this!
Thats offensive to air coolers..
@@Myrou1 ''Be quiet!'' haha
THE SAME OMG AHAHAHA I LEGIT DID THE SAMW
Carsten Komdeur I would like this but your edit is so cringe, dislike
@@KufLMAO Haters gotta hate i guess.
Got a McDonald’s ad for fries while I’m at work eating McDonald’s fries on my break
De Broglie was a physicist who created the de Broglie hypothesis as part of quantum mechanics. This hypothesis describes the duality between waves and particles.
Why would the Chinese slap a sticker with that name on a cooling fan? Calm down. You're asking too many questions.
Debroglie is also a Chinese gpu manufacturer, I have a debroglie gt 640 in some old pc
Also, Nvidia likes to slap some famous physicists names on their products, such as Maxwell, Pascal, and Fermi.
The fact that the "Elsa Debroglie" was legit is shocking to me.
Damn I forgot they had dram shortages in 2018, would rather have that than the gpu shortage going on right now.
4:38 BREAKING NEWS: NVIDIA STOCKS GO DOWN 100% AND ELSA GOES UP 100%
First vid in which he doesn't advertise LTTstore while drinking water.
Debroglie doesn't sound very good? OMG. It's like naming your car TESLA!!
Louis Victor Pierre Raymond de Broglie, duke de Broglie (/dəˈbrɔɪ/; French: [dəbʁɔj][1][2] or [dəbʁœj] (About this sound listen); 15 August 1892 - 19 March 1987)[3] was a French physicist who made groundbreaking contributions to quantum theory. In his 1924 PhD thesis he postulated the wave nature of electrons and suggested that all matter has wave properties. This concept is known as the de Broglie hypothesis, an example of wave-particle duality, and forms a central part of the theory of quantum mechanics.
I was about to say that , debroglies concept in chemistry 😉
I had the exact same reaction when I heard him say that.
unlike "tesla" the name itself is unappealing. just my 2 cents
@@Flamo353 : Depends how excited you get from science names :) I bet a LOT of people didn't know (and still don't know) who Tesla was. They might have heard of the name because Tesla is also a unit but DeBroglie did more for science than Tesla ever did (yup, hard to imagine but still true).
I know what you mean, though ... for the average Joe, DeBroglie sounds unfamiliar, weird, non-marketable ... Is Linus an average Joe, though?
One would argue Linus is on the science side, but hey :)
Yeah hes much less known in pop culture. For the less-than-googling curious out there, his confirmed hypothesis makes it capable of calculating some silly things like the "wavelength" of a moving human! For example, consider a matter waves from a person clenching their butt cheeks and walking *very* rapidly to the nearest toilet. First check out this short and *mind blowing* vid on double slit experiment if you don't know about it already. ruclips.net/video/O81Cilon10M/видео.html . Read more for calculations and brief on de Debroglie equations.
They would moving at a brisk ~4 mph = 1.8 m/s. de Brogliei's duality: _mc_² = _hf_ (c=light speed). Since, _f = c/λ_ with some simple algebra, and replacing c with pant-crapping speed, v, we get _λ = h/mv_ . Substituting in for a 150 lb (68kg; _m_= mass) person and Planck's constant, we get the wavelength of our terrified friend to be: 5.4493×10^-36 meters. For reference, I calculated the wavelength of the fastest recorded speed of a running human (Justin Gatlin- wind aided, not Usain Bolt) and came up with 7.8×10^-37 meters, just an order of magnitude smaller.
For the informed, I recognize that things larger than macromolecules really don't exhibit quantum mechanical effects. This is just a fun calculation that many intro level courses use for problems--sans poo danger.
In the East, especially in China, there are different versions of Nvidia cards, that's why you see the 5gb one. These models aren't listed on the website, and are mostly used for gaming cafes, which are really popular there!!
these kinds of GPU would probably be great to just rip the heatsink components off and get an aftermarket cooler on it for same or little better performance than the "proper" ones
Linus Tech Tips should have an ebay store where they sell the stuff they have. It would keep the warehouse clear. LOL
Would love to see what happens when they order from Wish.
I hope you mean stuff and not staff :P
Nah sell the staff, always cluttering up good GPU space
Dang Auto-Correct. SMH
But if they were selling staff who would you choose? Linus doesn't count because he's the boss of the company and not staff. LOL
I'm betting that a lot of the stuff they have gotten from companies for review can't be sold so they just store it or throw it away.
Elsa has been making graphics cards for years. They just aren't as popular as other companies are. Never had any issues with their stuff.
From what I could understand, Elsa is a mid range graphics card make kinda between Colorful and Maxsun
11/10 acting intro.
It's not that hard to make a good knockoff. If the pcb is assembled by any EMS, the right personnel with have all the specs, from Gerber all the way to the BOM. You can just sell it off and contact another EMS to build it. Shenzhen is pretty much the capital of electronic manufacturing.
5gb 1060 in China 🇨🇳
"A fool and his money", sounds very familiar...
It's not a complete scam, you say? It's not a scam at all! You got far more value for the price that you would have gotten in NA. Why can't you just give it its credit and say it's a good market for purchasing? Oh, because they're Chinese.
I like how Linus just poke the spinning fans with his finger XD
Or, did the fan poke his finger
If ur the only buyer doesn't that ring sirens...make sure he sold a few and check the feedback...
May be the first time I saw China ordered electronics that were not a scam.
D E B R O G L I E
Debroglie tastes like broccoli
Well you forget the warranty also...
When you realize the best tech RUclipsr don't know who DeBrogie is....
He is a famous physicist who proved the dual nature of matter.
Also in Japan they have 5gig editions. I bought one for my old rig from and odd store out in the sticks of Japan.
Probably smuggled from China.
It's called the ali-a express boi!!!
I've got 2 chinese GTX1080s watercooled in SLI. 2years strong
Worth the buy? Maxsun as well?
Update?
The big guys facial expressions are awesome!
Please make more aliexpress videos. THe goldenfir SSDs have been claimed to be faster than evo 850s in benchmarks for half the price.
huh really :/ what is goldenfir SSD :/
Have you tried searching it?
i know whats it, but im not sure about it being faster than the Samsung Evo 850s :/
Back when 1060’s were $400-$500 new lmao
Q1 2021 edit: this aged horribly
Q4 2021 edit: i’m so tired of this comment
Q2 2022 edit: ok it was funny make it stop
@@LazyTacoProductions good shit my guy
@@LazyTacoProductions Press X to scam
@@LazyTacoProductions Judging by how mad you are I can safely assume your full of shit.
The Crypto Currency boom and its eventual collapse where what drove the GPU prices through the roof.
Back when 1060 used to be 150$
Was anyone else hoping he would plug it it and it would come up as a crappier/ older model
Hoping no
Expecting yes
or just catch fire
I was expecting it to blow up
what happened to you spunk
spunk why tf haven’t you uploaded in 2 years?
That ELSA card must have the best cooling on the planet.
Nice
It looks like a offbrand rx480
I see what you did there
Its just missing a spiderman to go with it
Let it go . *Let it go*
"Cheap" also him "It only cost $700"
Am I just to broke to even be watching this video?
it's two years ago bro, now it's much cheaper
@@A173642 no lol
The 1080 didn't change price for years
He said it's cheap cuz at that time, 1080 cost $1000, and what he paid was just $700. Is that clear to you ??
@@A173642 yup
Yes
1060 5GB version, in China we call it 1065, it has 1280 cuda cores same with 1060+6GB (1066), but only 160 bit memory. It is designed for net cafe’ usage. Because it can handle high setting PUBG while the performance of mining decreases dramatically due to less bandwidth of memory. Theoratically it can be only bought through particular channel directly to Nvidia, not for private gamers, but it is China, so...There are lots of 1065s out in the market. Same price with 1060 3GB 192bit(1152cores which we call it 1063), but can deliver better performance. 1066s are more expensive due to bitcoin and other mining usage.
宋欣睿 cool
宋欣睿 thanks for this explanation :D
also 1065 was not commercial unit for a while (at first nvidia actually band anyone who is openly selling it), but u cannot stop the seller anyway.
That is brilliant.
i am confused, whether or not linus is playing the whole "there is no 5GB 1060" part, clearly one of the ltt would take 30 seconds to look up that it exists before buying, hell i knew it, just by following videocardz.com
DAMN, we Chinese failed to scam you this time.
It's a shame.
Kun Dong 🤣🤣😂😂
Its Not bad. He will devlop hybris, so in a short time you Strike back.
lol 铭瑄
lmaaaaao
soon. soon.
AFTER I TELL YOU ABOUT TODA-
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You're giving the sponsor the L. Because the forward 10 seconds button is L.
Bibasik7 "L" ?
Lol, relatable xD
linus stepped up with these ads
Suusi Ke the sponssor doesnt know you skip or not, they sponsor just care about the video views count, and proly they already done pay LTT
so chill out
linus: after i tell you abou-
me: *skips 10 seconds*
linus: ...at the links below.
Stolen
@@johnxy-san2513 how do you steal a comment lmao
@@prycwrn u copied it
yup
lol
watch AliExpress market go through the roof now
GameGabe nah, they are anyway selling more goods than even Amazon(globally). Alixpress is world's largest smartphone selling e-commerce site (by different sellers tho).
Everything is made in China anyways, from iPhones to graphics cards.
AliExpress lets you cut out the middleman, but good luck getting warranty support.
as if AliExpress not a thing already but ok
Aliexpress does have a pretty good customer service tho
May have just made Elsa a household name too
It's not scam if it's scam it will be Ali-AExpress
DankGuy *Ali-A earrape plays*
DankGuy haha dude best comment xD
what? that makes no fucking sense
Good thing I bought it from Ali-baba and used Playpall with protection
I see what you did there
5GB wasn't an accident. It was a deeply researched number to minimize ram while also minimizing slowdowns from caching in modern games. They were really trying to focus in on bang for the buck and lead to a really weird amount of ram :P
in fact, the bus width matches for qgb missing
5/6ths of 192 is 160, as if the configuration is the same but chopped down.
@@Tyler_Nelson I believe this is accurate, due to the way NVidia assigned ram, at least back then. A bank of memory was dedicated to a specific 32-bit section of the total bus. That seems like an inefficient use of bandwidth, but perhaps they striped the memory allocation across all the chips so the full bus is being utilized all the time?
Yes Gtx1060 5g is real. In China we call it Gtx1065. It is a special edition which only sales to Internet cafe.
or not an official
Thanks for confirming WHAT THE FUCKING VIDEO ALREADY DID.
That's a great card name tbh
kreambo1235 Dude don't be an ass
Well it didn't say gtx1065.
Obviously a card named after snow queen Elsa will be a lot cooler.
Cool ;) remark, but ELSA is not the snow queen, it stood for "ELektrische Systeme Aachen" and was founded in a garage in Aachen, Germany
shhh... ;p
Ba-Dum Tsss
They actually produce monitors too, what do you think of that LOL.
Newbies don't know what ELSA is...
Buying graphic cards is for poor. Legends download and install graphic cards.
Heroes don't need to download and install it.. all the process is done automatically :)
That's how I get muh ram.
chuck norris's PC case is empty and not even plugged in and he can still get better benchmark results.
*gets rickrolled
Megalegends processes the graphics in their mind
China has 5GB GTX 1060's for internet/gaming cafés. So it's legit!
Maybe I'll make a video on it
thats what i was going to say, they do make a 5gb version but only aimed at gaming cafes on china and asia
Tech Dunk --- perhaps they are illegally made --- If so, Nvidia has already sued them for trademark or copyright infringement.
Yeah boy..... your founder overpriced eddition got wrecked by the chinese low budget 1080ti. LeL
Overpriced?
@@ryusei9941 Founder editions are always overpriced because they're early models.
@@gamerdude1246 do they have any benefit vs the normal models
cause they're benefiting all over the world except china, no one wants to learn chinese to buy... since alieexpress became famous now, people are buying on alieexpress instead on amazon if found cheaper.
dude i seen in most benchmarks hwo the founder edition with all drivers and etc gets wrecked by cheaper cards and even lower Mhz cards wrecked it without OC
I wish you'd have dismantled the cards to check out the dies, and i really really wish there had been some data on temps, as well as some testing done on that. Seems like that is really where these cards would differ.
Christian maybe you should watch gamersnexus, they do that sort of in-depth stuff. Linustechtips is more about entertainment with some parts information.
I do watch Gamers Nexus, and i enjoy their content very much. But they haven't done a video like this. LTT has. And so, they really should have done a better job relaying relevant information. This particular info might make up the difference between a purchase, and looking elsewhere, for someone.
Besides, if someone buys the card based on the info given in this video, and then it turns out that it gets hot as hell, guess where they're gonna come to complain? Seems to me those 5 minutes of additional testing, and 30 seconds of showing the info, might be a good investment, rather than risking a large backlash after the fact. :)
Christian if the card doesnt throttle under benchmark, its not going to throttle under games.even if its running at 80-90 thats still within what the chip is designed for, if it does go above 90 it will throttle, so what is there to worry about
You know that temps differ around the world right? So if it's running right up against TJ max (point at which the card will begin to throttle) at LTT headquarters, then there is a very good chance that it'll throttle for someone who is in a slightly warmer environment.
Again, i really wish that thermal delta figures had been shown in this video.
It's generally accepted that you shouldn't run high-performance hardware in temps above about 80 F / 27 C. Or that, if you do, you can expect longevity and performance to suffer as a result. Most computers are designed to run in nice, cool places. The "known good" Founder's Edition cards will already be running just under their maximum thermal tolerance limits when you stress-test them in an air conditioned office. Higher ambient temperature will cause problems with _any_ power hungry graphics card, not just potentially sketchy ones.
It's a scam, Like Tunnelbear the easy VPN service.
Bubba Keith 😂😂😂
Bubba Keith Tunnelbear is a scam ?
I got mine, did it about a month ago. Not a scam, maybe you just don't know how to use a computer.
Sam barber Don't use tunnel bear they got bought by Mc Afee and now they sell your search history and other data to third party.
TheNeurolicious and how does Kaspersky VPN pay for it's bills if people don't pay anything. Are you sure they don't sell your data.
2:59 “There’s nothing really ESLA bout it.”
Snazzy Labs make a hackintosh with it
Snazzy Labs would be interesting to see a video about if it’s possible to build a hackintosh with sketchy parts like this
Snazzy Labs ESLA?
I Snazzy Labs
Nothing Spiderman about it either.........
Just don't buy GPUs on Wish
Don't buy anything on Wish lel
Batty Roshko it’s a wish that you’ll get anything near what you’re expecting.
@@Kyle-ph5hc usb hub's arent gpu's
I just bought coronavirus gpu on wish it was free I just had to pay for the shipping
@@benalexz nah that's not true, just don't buy anything expensive or breakable. Or anything essential
I CAN prononce kurzgesagt, as well as Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, but I'm half Pole, half German.
The tongue breakers nightmare.
Same, it's blyatiful!
First one isn't so hard but how the hell do you say that name?
@@nicholasneyhart396 as a pole myself i struggle to pronounce that xdd
It is probably because I speak German, not polish.
@@nicholasneyhart396 Gregor Brecishcikievitz. Pretty much sure that's how you pronounce that second one. Looks more difficult than it is, since most "z" in polish are actually mute or form a "sh" when paired with an "s". I think.
Towards the end of the video. What do you mean by "not a complete scam"? It's not even a "partial" scam. Linus got exactly what was advertised, functional, not DOA, performs on-par to expectation / similar products. Linus was just unfamiliar with / lacking exposure to the global market / variants.
On the plus side, I'm glad Linus has been doing more reviews on foreign products, such as the video with the Korean domestic LG laptop.
PCUser1024 it's partially a bad idea because of the shitty build quality.
He probably means buying GPUs on AliExpress in general and that's supposed to mean that it's confirmed to not be a scam on a very small sample size (2), but he still doesn't feel confident about this idea.
You dont know how much time it will last
In any case it's not a scam. He got exactly what was advertised and paid for. Longevity, warranty etc are paid extra, like EU has always 2 years warranty, but we buy with a premium.
He got got exactly what was advertised, naturally it's cheaper build quality at the lower price point.
Yet this result was the best outcome for his test and he still claims it's a partial scam. *smh*
Should have drop tested it instead Linus, for that seems more like your field of expertise.
Linus: "Dee-Broge-lee"
Physics students: *crying in french*
my mama said i had to eat debroglie before i could have dessert
Pxsniper you never heard de broglie equation? λ = h/mv
@@thamara2130 sab science ke nhi hai yaha se 😂
@@misery0907 sorry I can’t understand
@@thamara2130 sorry my bad I meant to say everybody didn't studied science here and to make that eqn look easy I wouldn't have expanded momentum 😂
It's pronounced "de-broi". He was a French theoretical physicist who outlined the wave-particle duality theorem of photons in his thesis roughly 100y ago. Very strange as to why such a name slash sticker would be on even a Chinese product.
It's actually pronounced "Bruhy"
@@ronanvialon7695
Nope, de Broglie is indeed pronounced debroi
@@paulitique7818 Hum... Absolutly not, are you French ? De Broglie would be pronounced De breuil
@@ronanvialon7695 pronounced xylophone
@@thenetgamer2 Woaw never seen such a perfect prononciation
I think Anthony's really cool, I wish we saw him more often
Agreed, anyone other than Dennis! That guy is beyond extremely annoying!
I agree, we need to see him more in videos.
he reminds me a lot of andy on conan haha
Nah he won’t ever fit in frame lol 📽🎥📸
DMN lol
there is a 1060 with 5gb its not for NA markets
true and 1053 also true!
fuck you
I posted this before he re discussed it, although it would have been nice if he was informed at the start of the video just in case some people don't watch until the end. (also the 3gb model is nothing like this 5gb model, the 3gb model is for all markets and it is a very fishy product probably so nvidia can farm the pascal architecture more. Nvidia is becoming a very nasty company be careful with these large corperations.
HetShotNet thank God her (or his?) comment got deleted
Was there a bad comment? if there was and you replied F*** you to it you will look a bit bad in the comments without any visible reason.
De Broglie 1:10
Actually pronounced as "De Broy"
And we were taught, "learn to say it properly or else the people of the West will laugh at you"
Pcm students only
@@ayushkulkarni3867 definitely 😆😂
Update the graphics card directly
ruclips.net/video/UvvLq7FK5WE/видео.html
The coincidence makes that today we have learnt about this guy at school 😂
@@TheBrickagon XD Best of luck for Boards!
@4:02 The tape on the SLI connectors is called Kapton tape.
It is used in electronics manufacturing for various reasons due to its ability to withstand high temperatures.
I honestly don't know why they put it on there to begin with, but I assume someone accidently left it on there.
Usually Kapton tape is used for one of these reasons:
1. Preventing solder pads from corroding from heat (the pads in the video are gold-plated tho, so this is unnecessary here).
2. Preventing liquid solder to stick to the pad (which is not the case here since wave soldering is way too coarse for a GPU).
3. Something else which probably only made sense during manufacturing.
Kapton is put on to prevent gold fingers from being damaged during manufacturing, either due to scratching or accidental solder landing on it from wave/selective/SMT processes.
Oh wow, that makes sense.
Thanks for the response!
An Excellent avatar.
I got here late. . Good call 😉
you are right.
And Linus can just remove that and be happy.
(hopefully he will not plug a bridge on top of the tape)
Seems like this is not a scam! It is working very well......Cool!
The Devil is in the details.. I got a "960" from wish that was a modded 550ti
yeah if it wasn't a scam it's pretty much luck. there are tons of videos of people buying dirt cheap vid cards from china that end up being heavily (and poorly) disguised really old cards.
well, the difference is, if you are buying a 100$ 1080, you'll get a modded 550 ti, if you are buying close to real price (-15%) it's likely to be the real deal with cheap construction.
Buying a $100 1080 is not even a SCAM, you are just a scammy person. ;-))
Mum Blic yes but the few of those "MUST WATCH ALIEXPRESS SCAM" videos I watched are just about this kind of stuff, or even 1$ (enter a contest to win a) ps4. Obviously it won't be a legit one.
de Broglie ( pronounced Day-Broye) is the name of a physicist who was famous for defining the wavelength of particles in a quantum mechanical sense, known as the de Broglie wavelength. It is defined as planck's constant divided by the momentum of the particle. I don't know what any of this has to do with graphics cards, but regardless...
to be fair nVidia names their microarchitectures after physicists: Tesla, Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell, Pascal, Volta. I guess they thought it would be cool to do the same
Alelau18 point taken
Alelau18 The next series is codenamed Turing, a computer scientist.
Turing is a silent joke to piss off VP Pense... (I can do conspiracy theories too)
7:51 i like how it says "Death in internet cafes"
*Deaths
@@nayemsohaill3131 and?
@@nayemsohaill3131 k
2:57 "Nothing really ELSAbout it"
you just gonna take that?
noice. what a fucking cat tho
Aw, was hoping to find Aliexpress links haha
es.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20180524193347&SearchText=gtx+1060
es.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20180524193525&SearchText=gtx+1080
1080:
www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-EMS-GPU-GTX1080-8GD5X-TOP-Graphic-Card-GDDR-5X-PCI-E-X16-3-0-Video/32861782621.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_5722815_10342_10547_10343_10340_10341_10548_5722915_5722615_10696_10084_10083_10618_10139_10307_5722715_5711215_10059_308_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5711315_5722515_10621_10620_10814_10815,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_4&algo_expid=5999e2cc-1585-470f-9c06-e58aa22ea157-4&algo_pvid=5999e2cc-1585-470f-9c06-e58aa22ea157&transAbTest=ae803_1&priceBeautifyAB=0
Ya me too😂😂
ehhhh the prices are not even cheap enough to warrant the fact that you #1 will have to wait god knows how long for it to arrived, #2 it might not ever arrive, #3 has no warranty, #4 could blow up at any moment.
checkout the sales history, someone from Canada bought it lol
why you just dont download a new gpu?
Thanks for reminding me, lemme download some ram as well
Μην μου πεις το εννοείς 😂😂
@@andreasbustan6695 nai re mia titan rtx katevasa xthes apo to steam
@@markosgamergr2306 ωραίος εγώ θα κατεβάσω μια rtx 2080 sli δεν έχω αρκετό ssd για μια titan
@@andreasbustan6695 afou tha einai sli kalo
Once upon a time there was a premium brand for graphic cards. The name was ELSA. Now it's a no name brand from China. As time goes by...
no name brand
*NANI!*
When was that time?
Tappajaav Up to about 2000 or so. The Gladiac was very famous. ELSA was something like PNY now. And in Japan it's still a well known brand.
The Wheel of Time turns and ages come and pass leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again. In one such Age, called the 90s by some, an age long past, an age yet to come, a wind rose in the heatsinks of ELSA. The wind was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time, but it was _a_ beginning.
china number one!!!!
To me, the main concern about buying somewhat expensive stuff from AliExpress, is it being seized by customs. I don't know in other countries, here in Spain it may happen
And in Greece too.
Main concern here in the UK too, have to pay ridiculous fees for things shipped from China if customs check it.
They rarely do check though and 90% of the time you're getting things for bargain prices. I got a legit rog strix 1080ti 6gb card for £350 when it retails for around £700 here.
Completely justified due to chinese business tactics
I have been buying inexpensive stuff from AliExpress and dealextreme for years, and never happened to me, but I am talking about items up to 15€, generally much less, I wouldn't even bother trying to recover them from customs given the case. A different story is a graphics card, smartphone or similar, then you are screwed.
Hal likely in your country you don't have to pay customs for products under certain price. In my country the limit is 22 euro. Beyond that amount I'd expect stuff to always get stuck in customs when coming from China
GTX 1060 5GB is actually real Nvidia card, but it's only for asian market and it's supposed to be used in Chinese internet cafes. You can Google it quite easily. It was announced at the end of the year 2017.
EDIT: OK, it's being said in the video. I just commented too early :)
Just because it’s affordable and made in China doesn’t mean it’s a scam.
Bless Nvidia and their transparency and clear choice for consumers with their GPP and their GT 1030 with GDDR5 or DDR4 versions, their GTX 1050 2GB and new 3GB version, and the GTX1060 3GB, 6GB and 5GB version.
It's almost like as if you can see which version of the card you're buying by looking at the specs. It's really a non issue for people using common sense. Also, it's good for filling up the market in a shortage situation. I can't believe people can't get that fact in their head. Like, why throw away the PCBs that don't make the spec?
TessellatedGuy Right. Its like saying a car manufacturer is intransparent, because they are selling the same car with different engines.
They advertise the lower RAM but not the rest of the lower specs. If they are going to weaken the card and have a lower cuda core count. And just make it look cheaper by advertising a lower RAM. Dont call it the same card.
Its like buying a car with a different engine. But oh it also has 3 year old wheels and it needs to be alllinged. But pay attention to the one thing in the big bold font.
+DayVideo Actually, that's almost exactly what car manufacturers do, lower spec cars have lower spec other things, they mostly only advertise what mostly matters to most people, like the engine, or leather seats or something. There's literally nothing wrong with that UNLESS they DON'T reveal that the tires are smaller or are worse in some way or the engine makes less torque. In our case, nvidia did reveal the less cuda core count in their own official site, scroll down and you'll easily find it. Just because it's slightly different doesn't mean the whole thing should be called something else. If that were the case we would be seeing lower spec variants of a Camry be called something completely different. That's just not how it works and it would only make things worse.
AMD fanboy detected.
I had a girlfriend many years ago whose best friend's name was Debroglie
killaken2000
Was just about to comment this. I've studied Debroglies laws.
colorless, wow man you must at least be doing highschool physics.
What's a girlfriend?
I had a girlfriend many years ago too 😔
hmm , very interesting, tell me more
There's actually a 5GB 1060 built for gaming cafes in china or somewhere in case Linus didn't know. 😂I actually heard that way back a long time ago in a video. This comment was made 3 mins into the video . He did find out finally .
Good save bro.
Thank you for saving me from watching the whole video where he clearly mentions this fact
That's true.they already available on taobao,the cheapest 1060 right now
My first thought when he said 5GB was "Ah, a China-Only model." There are, in fact, a lot of manufacturers who will basically sell to 2 whole different markets with different prices, standards, etc, and China is among the leaders there when it comes to computers and technology. I've seen 5GB and 7GB video cards more than once that people assumed were fake, but turned out in the end to just be models not meant to be shipped or sold outside of mainland China. Makes it really easy to identify them in customer support cases (as in you get none, even if it's using real parts). Basically, from what the test results showed, these are the rejects, or "B bin" cards from manufacturers, being slightly modified for resale in certain markets where they will never be held liable for anything that happens after they sell those parts to an OEM.
In those cases that I've seen, like here, they bought them off AliExpress. Linus paid $725 for a video card that likely cost the reseller less than $300 (around 2000 Yuan is likely from what I've found, but only found locally, not online, as they're not legal to export usually) at a local shop to buy AND ship, and ended up with something you were never intended to be aware of, let alone receive, as we are not part of that target market. The thing they usually find is exactly in line with what Linus found - cheap, low quality cooling systems and power management. You can bet that if Linus ran an actual stress test or 24hr burntest on either of those cards, he'd have much different results as the capacitors started to overheat and die or the GPU itself start to deball from the board due to extreme overheating, much like the original Xbox 360.
Actually, Linus, you might want to get back in touch with Stranger Parts and see if he can find one or both of those same exact boxes at a local shop over there in Shenzhen, and get a more precise idea what the markup might actually be on those specific ones. I'm sure there are others like me who are curious.
Man imagine graphics cards being in stock.
Yeah the thing is we have to imagine
Gtx 1060 5Gb card is made officially by Nividia, the purpose of this card is to provide a budget graphics card for the Internet cafe, the ability of Bitcoin mining is cut on this card so the price will be stable. The overall gaming ability of the 5Gb 1060 is very similar to the 6Gb 1060. When this card was first launched, it was not allowed to be sold to normal customers, but people in China always get some special sources that can get this card from. So the 1060 5Gb became the best! budget card in the market due to its gaming ability and lower price. However, the 1065 u get doesn’t have a formal package and doesn’t have nividia warranty. The most popular gtx 1065 on the market is from Gigabyte and Colorful. If u are in China, gtx 1060 5Gb is still my first recommendation.
我發現這幫傻逼老外，沒見過世面就瞎逼逼，自以爲是專業，那種蔑視的口吻真是令人噁心！
how much does this GTX 1060 5Gb cost?
Hircine $190～$200
ikit luk 我哪有瞎bb哼、生气了呢
@@wangxiaoyang2594 awesome
As far as I know, there are graphics cards on eBay (and probably also on AliExpress), where the boxes are just labelled "GRAPHICS CARD", and they are older and lower end graphics cards that have had their firmware modified to trick the system into thinking they are newer cards. YT user "PhilsComputerLab" has done a few videos on that.
It's very easy, I tricked my friend by doing this exact thing. All you need is a vBIOS editing software and simply change the product ID to whatever you like. I changed my GTX 780 Lightning to a 980 Ti Lightning, which only 10 in the world were made and they look pretty similar when installed. I fooled him good.
edit: I DID NOT SELL IT TO HIM. I just told him I got one and showed it to him in my PC with GPU-Z open. I'm not the scum of the earth guys.
as long as he isnt trying to sell it or make money off it I dont see the issue
When he then tries to bios flash it, its bricked.
well int he end all will show up in games benchmarks wont lie
but the benchmark showed its potential
From watching your video, it doesn't seem like a scam at all. Just some poorer quality heatsinks reflected in the price. You just decided it was a scam from the get go, and trying so hard to prove it. Even at the end you were saying "not quite a scam" implying you're still being scammed in some way. You just got a cheaper variant, but you decided it was a scam because you're used to the premium variants sold in the western markets.
What you did miss a chance on is actually doing something useful like measuring temperature performances on those heatsinks and fans and comparing it to the expensive premium heatsinks from the western markets. Obviously it would not be as good, but what's important is that you can use the data to predict whether the cheaper ones are fit for purpose over the lifetime of the card. The heatsinks included might not be the pinnicle of engineering but they might do a well enough job for the purpose. Or maybe they don't. But you could test it and that'll be useful information for everybody..
alot of these seller are scam especially on ebay. they edit the cards firmware so your PC thinks its an high end card when it's really some old 9500gt.
So....the part of the heatsink that wasnt attached to anything and didnt really seem to help with cooling, and the plastic backplate that tried to imitate a metal backplate, those things are not scammy at all, huh?
Clearly these cards are made to look convincingly high quality in pictures, but when you get them on your hands, you can see they are pieces of crap.
Yes its not outright a scam. But its still sketchy at best.
Yeah the title is what one would call clickbait.
Morpheas bad design on the cooler maybe but there's nothing sketchy let alone "scammy". Do you even know what those words even mean. There's no outright scam, there's not even any partial scam. He bought a cheap 1080, he got a cheap 1080
Morpheas I see someone havent lived in asia... everything looks cheap, unless you want to throw in a bunch of money for a "premium brand", which, spoilers, is not considered cool.
DeBroglie was a scientist who can up with the De Broglie Theorem, where Wavelength = Planks constant / momentum, proving particles can act like a wave
You're meaning the connection between the aluminum and plastic? The heating transfer
Mohammed Alssamra'ey no, quite literally that name was the name of a scientist.
you forget 'n'
I don't think I would consider a price considerably over MSRP "Cheap"...
The 1060 6GB was actually very close to the MSRP of the GTX 1080.
matt what about elsa? will u test it too?
I'm subbed to you
Tech By Matt yo dude here on Bulgaria you can find all sorts of the GTX 1080 (Palit version) for $760 and the gpu prices of the other cards haven't gone up by a lot (roughly $30-40). Even the 1070ti is near MSRP
Savage Duck21 But the MSRP for a GTX 1080 is $599...pretty significant difference between $600 and $760. I actually helped a friend pick one up (MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X to be specific) a couple weeks ago for UNDER MSRP at $560.
aboot
shottysteve upload you snail
shottysteve your still alive!
Hi
Wait a second is that my boy shottysteve?
Must be Canadian
DO MORE ALI EXPRESS VIDEOS! i live in iceland and for me at least it costs alot to have to pay tolls and shipping from amazon. I have always been a bit sketchy about buying from ali express since they have some REALLY cheap stuff compared to other websites but this video actually gave me hope and il most likely test the waters myself.
steel crusher I order many items since 2016, all items I buy is legit
steel crusher Amazon includes import fees, Ali does not. That's why it's cheaper. Just be prepared to have customs seize your stuff occasionally.
Yes i am aware but getting free shipping to iceland is basically impossible from amazon unlike ali express.
You guys should do a follow-up episode in 3-6 months to see if these cards are still preforming well, because this legit seems too good to be true.
Yeah would be cool if they ran a bit of torture testing on them and followed up.
it's only a 15% discount for a cheaply made card, especially if you don't pay import tax, it seems legit.
I mean he could just test the thermals right now since he's got the card. These seem like legit licensed boards from nvidia, the main factor seems like they've putting in a cheaper cooling solution.
That 5GB GTX1060 model has been sold in China for several months. I've never heard of any large-scale quality problems. They are designed for (even some low-end) net cafes, and they are expected to work under some really harsh environment.
What do you mean too good to be true? They bought the GTX 1080 from Aliexpress for $720. There's been several GTX 1080 on sale on /r/buildapcsales for $500-580. The price they paid is stupid bad.
Linus you need to do a full memory test, a lot of Chinese companies are screwing with the bios on these scam cards to SHOW the memory that's not their, games report a memory quantity that really doesn't exist so can cause crashing or huge slowdown once the memory is filled
*not there
Really no need to since the benchmarks were so close to the genuine card baselines. It would have been obvious there that the memory was tweaked.
AwesomeVindicator they indeed run tests in games and also a synthetic performance test at 4:37
AwesomeVindicator ii
In China u can buy a 5gb gtx 1060 edition edit: i mean a real 5gb edition with real 5 gigs
Theoretically, if the PCB on the Aliexpress 1080 is the same, you could rip the cooling off and liquid cool it, making it a more affordable and equally as good solution for those who are looking for a 1080 that they will be liquid cooling. Interesting...
I'm telling ya these are pcbs from namebrand manufacturing plants that were considered subpar and sold off to a "recycling" company to be assembled and sold. This is quite possibly a legit 1080.
no warranty though, idk if liquid cooling voids waranty?(in that case it would make sense)
It does, Thomas. And that was exactly my thought, you are going to void warranty anyways, so just get a cheap one like this and save some bucks.
Release of 5gb version was in basically every tech newspaper sometime ago, no idea how he or many in this comment section didnt know about it
There is a 5GB GTX 1060. It was made from the 1060 6GB that had dead memory modules on them. These 5GB cards can not be bought publicly and are only sold to Chinese Internet gaming cafés.
...he just said that
There is a 5GB GTX 1060. It was made from the 1060 6GB that had dead memory modules on them. These 5GB cards can not be bought publicly and are only sold to Chinese Internet gaming cafés.
There is a 5GB GTX 1060. It was made from the 1060 6GB that had dead memory modules on them. These 5GB cards can not be bought publicly and are only sold to Chinese Internet gaming cafés.
There is a 5GB GTX 1060. It was made from the 1060 6GB that had dead memory modules on them. These 5GB cards can not be bought publicly and are only sold to Chinese Internet gaming cafés.
There is a 5GB GTX 1060. It was made from the 1060 6GB that had dead memory modules on them. These 5GB cards can not be bought publicly and are only sold to Chinese Internet gaming cafés.
Careful: Aliexpress (in contrast to eBay) does not include import tax from far eastern countries. Prepare to pick up & pay for your stuff at customs. Better look for grey import deals on eBay that were shipped by the dealer to a "nearby" location beforehand and then sent to you without the need to pay for customs!
They often straight up lie on the label about what's in the box so you won't have to pay taxes. Where I live, we need to pay taxes over imported goods from China that are more expensive than €22. When you order something, they will just put on the box that it costs less than that (and that it's dangerous to mail the package after it's been opened).
Worked multiple times for me :)
DSP Most the time you won't get hit by Customs, if you do it won't be for much money, usually phones are marked as a $5 MP3 Player or 'Gift'
I purchased a phone and it said mp3 player...
Well, not all sellers on Aliexpress know about this trick and some dont seem to care.
In my case: I bought 2 LED lights which were not on the european market yet via the official manufacturers account on Ali from China. They did not attach ANY information to the box and I had to pay my 19% taxes at the German customs where the item was held. They forced me to give them the original payment details + the original invoice so I wouldnt lie about the price.
If I want to buy cheap electronics, I will never rely on Ali anymore - I'll buy through eBay sellers which sell stuff from other EU countries which were "secretly" imported from China.
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That how I get all my products from the US. Import them and lie about the price!
"It's not a complete scam" -- what do you mean, it's not a scam at all. :) You got perfectly fit and working cards for the price.
I imagine overclocking and extended use won't be as good as a brand card
Perfectly fit and working cards for how long, though? Those cheap heatsinks and poor overall build quality will probably give you a card with a limited lifespan. This may be fine for an internet cafe, where burning out cards and replacing them with upgraded ones at predictable intervals is just a capital equipment cost. It's not fine for the consumer market where people actually expect some longevity. There's a reason at least one of these cards was only intended for internet cafes. Buying sketchy shit, even if it works today, is almost always shows itself to be a sketchy deal in the long run.
Well, you can buy an "OCV" version of a GTX 1060 with sketchy cooling on "normal" non-Chinese eshops. You are paying less for same performance but worse build quality, that is not a scam, that is getting what you pay for. GPUs are not used for decades anyways.
Winston Deleon that’s why the price is low, right?
Winston Deleon omg, paying less price but require a higher quality product, over wise it would be a scam. What the actually fk. Wait let me sue bmw first because my s series is not as good as 7 series, scam!