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Est il possible de ''transformer'' un système composé d un x79 et d un Xeon E5 v4 14/22core ( ram , hdd, GPU pce X3 x16 etc ....) En laptop avec batterie (🔋🔋🔋) et avec 2h d'autonome ? Est il possible de faire un fichier pdf (tutorial ) please ? Merci pour la vidéo 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It was rather nice to see a actual decent board from a chinese manufacturer, even mores o to see a board like this, where they put something on there that it wasnt meant to have... but they made it work. (Mostly) Think theyd stick around to do more work? Or will they dissappear into the ether after a few months?
Hey, there are some brazilian youtubers who tested this kit, and they found out how to set the memory xmp correct profiles and all this little things like letting the cpu hold the boost for undefinelied amount of time. But be aware that the mobo heatsink are not the best to that situation. A good youtuber that had made a good amount of testing on this mobo is called Mario Mazotti.
@@robertocuello6669 I've got an old Silverstone SG05 that I currently have a B350 board with a 5600 in it. I want to make a second system that size with one of these boards, and that would require ITX.
For a media PC Intel Stock cooler is enough. If it not enough than you have bad computer case tha no enough air vent or/and you need adjust TDP settings and/or undervolt CPU in MOBO BIOS settings menu.
The Engineering samples are gone so all that is available are units with retail CPUs. That is why the price is so much higher. Looks like the ES models went up to 199 but are now completely out of stock as well.
With how it fairs with multithreaded workloads and its low wattage, this honestly would be an excellent choice for server use, mix this with a HBA card in the PCIe slot and an M.2 2.5Gig or 10 gig lan port. 2 NVMe drives for redundant boot devices and a small case. This is excellent value.
My only concern with that is the listing on aliexpress does mention that some people have troubles with virtualization. Hopefully we will get some more videos on this motherboard and cpu though.
Dawid did a thing on this earlier and I will still say it's worth it for a smaller simpler build that could still be relevant for at least a few years. The GPUs that would work well with this set up should hold up for even longer.
tons of people still use 6th-8th gen intel era as gaming computers today. a few years is a understatement unless theres some massive performance requirement in games that suddenly appear. but it looks like we are still a few years away from that
@@DienerNoUta I do agree. To be quite fair, I have an i7-3770k with an Aorus RTX 2080 and 32gb of 1866 mhz ram. Everything has been overclocked and timings have been tightened. This old rig was made just before "the pandemic."
I purchased the non-ES i7-11800H board that they sell a few days ago, this video has me very excited given that this performance is from the ES version. I originally bought the board for use as a home server, but now I might give it a shot to see how it stacks against my i5-12400 when paired with a 3080. It’s very exciting to see these neat things at these price points.
I also ordered, but in a kit with ram and ssd. I want to give it good cooling and OC it, but they had only with an engineering sample (I9 11900H), i hope they got the multiplier unlocked, or at least the turbo unlock feature.
This was the most natural Jeff has ever been in a video. (IMHO that is) The least amount of "News Anchor Voice" where every end word of a sentence is drawn out way too long with a high inflection. 😉
Just bought one as the start of a Proxmox/OPNsense setup to replace my old i5-3550 Dell Optiplex OPNsense router. Excited to get this in, might make a video on the setup.
What I think? I just bought one in this instant. FYI, my first lab server was builded after your review of a x79 motherboard and, to this day, it's working flawlessly.
1U is such a bad option for anything but the densest racks. It is loud, more expensive (since you have to shoehorn parts into it), hotter, and has less expansion options. There is REALLY no need for 1U stuff in a soho/home rack. 2U, on the other hand, will fit 80mm fans, and can be made cool/quiet on a budget.
Sadly that chip still needs active cooling, that means noise tiny fan... Maybe it can be downclocked and turbo disabled and it would still have a great use case + passiv / indirectly cooled by the 1U case fans.
P.S. DAWID DOES TECH STUFF took out aluminum plate and just hand held a cpu cooler, it actually dropped even more its temps with direct contact to chip and some thermal paste, ill see if i can manage to do that also since well.. its not engineered to be mounted with out the spacer.
I do not know if you will agree with me, but limiting the TDP a bit this seems like would make for a nice NAS motherboard, using Xpenology or TrueNAS. Nowadays motherboards with jasper lake are even more expensive than this, much less capable, I am not sure about efficiency if this combo is properly tuned.
The problem is going to be PCIe lanes at that point. You have to decide between a high-speed networking card or an HBA. You also have no bifurcation support for using a cheap 4x4x4x4 card with 4x NVMe drives.
I just got one of these combos (in March 2024) for $191 total shipped using a $25 Aliexpress coupon. I haven't touched the BIOS and out of the box it's running consistently at 4.1ghz and 78-80 watts in benchmarking. I'm using the Erying CPU cooler and it hasn't gotten above 75C and I've been running this thing full-throttle for a solid half hour. I will continue to test this over the next few weeks. I was planning on using it in an off-site unRAID server/NAS, but if it remains stable, I'm going to feel bad about "wasting" a powerful CPU for such a basic application.
great video! Bought the 11800h version for 135 after I finished watching because the one linked was out of stock and other listings for the 11900h were around 250+ now. Will be a solid little platform and I can't wait to play around with it for a lan rig
@@vincei4252 just get the engineering sample ones, those are the cheap ones and as long as you get the 8c variant you got 4.5 ghz boost. the 6c only goes up to 4.1
Got my i9 11900h ES kit for 150€. Best purchase in a while. I'm running the cpu at 4.8ghz all cores. With the proper confuguration and thermal solutions it's a banger.
I bought an Erying M-ATX 2.6Ghz ES 0000 for $177 back in March 2024. It is an i9 11980HK engineering sample. I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 and it has become my daily driver. It runs on a PICO-ATX power supply with 12V DC power supply or my LiFePO4 battery bank when the power is off. It draws at most 8 amps but usually around 3 amps. My main RYZEN PC died and I never fixed this I just kept rolling. This thing is for real.
I hoped the 12th gen version of this thing would be amazing But it seems that there is something wrong and the CPU can't reach the boost clock. The company said they couldn't find a solution for it
Dawid does tech did a review of this as well and couldn't find a way to boost ram speeds. He did however find that it performed better if you removed the heat sink they put on there and used a different cooler. But, finding one to fit it properly is a different task. He ended up just placing an air cooler on and didn't fasten it
I just ordered one. I was looking at getting a modern NUC replace my home server (currently an old 4700MQ laptop) and my gaming / development desktop (currently an AliExpress X99 motherboard & 2640v3), but I've been looking for a more power efficient system that can run all day and perform double duty. This might just be it! The advantage over a NUC is no need to eGPU for gaming purposes, with all of the drawbacks that come with an eGPU setup. At this price (it was listed as 195 euros, but when I checked out it was discounted to 163 euros) it is too good to pass, especially with two ringing endorsements from RUclips channels I trust!
Not only does this board look absolutely sick for gaming but I'm looking at putting together an openWRT router to upgrade my networking setup at some point in the future and the 11800H version is looking cheap and much less power hungry than any older desktop x86 I could get at the price. It seems very doable with a couple of those M.2 NICs and a decent wifi card.
I bought an Erying M-ATX 2.6Ghz ES 0000 for $177 back in March 2024. It is an i9 11980HK engineering sample. I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 and it has become my daily driver. It runs on a PICO-ATX power supply with 12V DC power supply or my LiFePO4 battery bank when the power is off. It draws at most 8 amps but usually around 3 amps. My main RYZEN PC died and I never fixed this I just kept rolling. This thing is for real.
Id like to see more unique chinese ITX boards since chinese manufactures seem pretty invested in ITX cases and cooler designs. ITX board options are always limited even tho ppl will spend insane amounts of money to get the smallest ITX builds possible. Would you also be willing to send the board over to Actually Hardcore Overclocking to do a component mobo analysis?
This board comes with gearmode 2 as default. You can get much higher performance with the right settings. Also worth saying is that Erying post sales is very bad.
Beauregard is easily one of my favorite breweries. I can walk there, but I usually opt to drive because I could never carry that much beer home with me without my vehicle. I'd strongly recommend their ice beers. As for the hardware, I'm wondering if this solution would make a way better emulation setup than my little retropi. And with the prices the Rpi is going for nowadays, little cheap boards like this with integrated CPU start to look very attractive as an alternative.
I did consider the offer the company has relating to these boards. Full details are on the sales pages. Way back in the day, I did run an intel mobile cpu that was known to be compatible with the then cpu socket in use. The one I had, didn't overclock much, It's main advantage was significantly lower power requirements.
I saw some disclaimer on aliexpress that virtualization is problematic (ie. not working) on the engineering sample models. Can you do a video on what's broken? Also, Erying warns about crashes and lock-ups with dedicated GPUs and benchmarking/sysinfo software. I'd be curious to see a video on what the negatives of an ES model are.
This seems like the perfect option to build the speedy little distributed home cluster I always wanted. Compact but actual expansion slots for fast networking unlike mini PCs, low power unlike old server hardware and the fast single core performance of a modern chip. And cheap enough to buy a couple without immediatly going bankrupt.
Interesting. The 'Overclocking Performance Menu' looks identical to the one used by older, unlocked AMI bioses found on Intel laptops. Something tells me this board does indeed use a mobile chipset. *EDIT* Indeed, its the HM570, as per CPUZ
LOL I got one of these just last week, ordered in a month ago on whim, I got the 11980hk, talked to the sales rep and they started to design 12th gen so I might get one of those to
I've heard of 12th gen boards being work in progress, so those could potentially make a great value option for productivity tasks due to the uplift in thread count.
@@Koekje__ got one of those. Borderline useless. Will work perfectly one day, next day doesn't even power up anymore. Need to remove graphics card, clear cmos, try again, not working, try again, push reset together with power button (according to some people) .... nothing works. Go for a coffee, come back 10 minutes later, press power and the thing works. Totally unreliable. Bios is having major stability issues (for example, change the "silent boot" setting to disabled ? Board refuses to start. Erying themselves are a bad joke in terms of support stating "if the board starts, there's no problem". The fact it only gets into a POST "when it feels like it" makes no difference to them. Board also not capable of bios flashing unless using an external programmer. My advise based on personal experience ? Only buy when you have money to burn.
@CraftComputing I gotta say that your optimism on this is quite refreshing whereas others are reactions kinda just make fun or talk trash on these. The point to this video i feel is that you're gaming and having fun at a fraction of the cost of other platforms. Thanx a ton for the video! Keep it coming please....
The G502SE mouse that you are using is *well known* to have crappy switches. The behavior you state is how the switches go bad. Replacing the Omron switches with Kaihl red switches solves the problem. I use that mouse on Linux with USB2 and 500 and 1khz polling rate and it works fine. I use Synergy, and it mirrors the hardware polling rate when remote controlling.
I wish i could try it with Intel XTU to manage manually boost time and max tdp and it somehow should be closer to the desktop variant. Can you try it and do a second video? Because i'm really intrested in buying but i don't wanna blow up my money. Thank you.
just ordered one of these with the VRM upgraded heatsinks Erying offers. Super excited! More videos with this please! I will pair mine with a corsair aio
i love the ridiculous chinese stuff you are able to find. this is too fun. wonder if you can pop that IHS off there and do something like a liquid metal interface, or if it's soldered. really solid little board, very impressed
I so would like a revisit to this motherboard to see if you figured out the XMP settings and overclocking! Love what you do! Thanks for all your hard work!
I have one of those. It's really fun but unfortunately my sample didn't handle higher clocks well, left it stock and removed the power limit and called it a day. Great performance for the price.
Those erying boards with mobile 10th/11th gen chips are insane. They have the i9 11th gen board, 16gb of 3200MT/s ram and a nvme drive for like $260 which is a ridiculous value for a quick and dirty general use machine that would just tear through common everyday tasks. I could see these being great bases for very inexpensive but extremely capable gaming rigs. Base clock on the retail 11900h is 2.50GHz according to intel arc btw.
You are better off getting the RAM from Ebay and the NVMe drive(s) from Amazon. I'm looking at 2x16GB of 3200 used for $48. And you can get a 1TB SSD from a top brand for ~$50. So you'd be getting double the ram and quadruple the SSD for the same price.
theres one problem, now that there is good press they will increase prices once orders start comming in. its happened every time a good chinese company sells well on aliexpress
i have been eye balling that board from ali express but i ended up buying a 12900kf ES chip from aliexpress however you have satisfied my thoughts on that 11900h board what did it in the end was i found a used z690 board for 90 bucks if not i would have bought the tigerlake board
I love how the ES version of the board conveniently no longer exists (unless you get the 256 buck combo version) as the reviews go up between you and dawid. Now you can only get the more expensive non ES version of the board for like 220 bucks lol. Typical Chinese bullcrap.
I'm not surprised that between the nearly 900K combined subscribers on our channels, releasing a video on the same product on the same day, that demand suddenly skyrocketed.
@@CraftComputing I hope you're getting your share off of this merchant. They are making a metric shitload of cash from you and Dawid reviewing these products, judging by how fast the sold out after.
You probably got a “golden engineering sample” and that’s nice. I would check in the bios for power limits and just max them out. The memory you can increase to 1.35v and set your speed manually. You can keep XMP enabled and set speed to around 3200MHz or you can just not use XMP…..set your speed…..and use auto timings. Not sure what your CPU voltage was…….but you could try lowering it slightly. Pretty sure you can get more out of this platform. It intrigues me so I think I’ll purchase one for a budget build. Great work my man. Also, I think you should try different beers with every show and critique those also…….happy trails from Canada 😊
It would be very interesting to see how it works on Mac OS, tests, etc., since Ryzens have problems with Mac OS, but if Intel and video are from AMD, maybe this is the best option for working in Mac OS
Excellent video, thank you. But.. you tested it based on stock Windows right? I'd bet money that the USB would work great on a customized install of windows especially after running something like iobit driver booster. Hardware wise, there's no reason USB shouldnt work great for gaming scenarios, that must be some sort of driver glitch.
I've heard these are more of a DTX form factor than mATX. Any word on whether this would fit in a case that accommodates Mini-ITX & Mini-DTX, such as the NR200p?
I saw someone else review this, these systems are going to be incredible value for budget systems as long as the price and supply holds, I mean, there can only be so many laptop engineering samples
We MUST find a way to bypass the 45 watt limit. The all core max frequency should be 4.5 ghz. I got my son a laptop with a 11800h and the all core for it is 4.2. Since his is an Eluktronics Max 17 we can adjust the max CPU draw up to something like 120watts but since it is a fairly thin chassis it is heavily limited by thermals.
From the two or three videos I've seen on this, yours included, and looking at them on ali express and reading through their (very detailed) listings, I have to say I'm impressed, and I'm thrilled to see a chinese company making a solid, and for all intents and purposes, exceptional product, and that it, to all appearances, does not look like it lies about anything or is a scam. Prices are already starting to go up as people jump on these, but hopefully that encourages the company to make more. They've released a great product, sort of out of nowhere!
I just got mine going. It is very quick. I couldn't get integrated graphics working. It would only use a very old default driver. But I will use a graphics card.
Wild question, where do you get these beers? Do you just live close to a local importer or is there a way to buy them online? (I was under assumption there was a shipping issue with alcoholic beverages.) I'd love to get my hands on quite a few of the ones you've showcased, but my local selection is... lacking.
I was thinking it would make a good lab server. You have an IGP. The low power draw would make even a 1U case pretty usable. While it lacks a lot of server features it should still preform pretty well for the price.
I was already going to buy one of these before I watched this review, but now I can't WAIT to get my hands on one! It's funny you mention how overkill your cooling is for this setup, because I'm going to use a Chinese 6-pipe dual tower 115x cooler for mine, which is totally in "diminishing returns" territory, but also only around $25.
Haha, i ordered one as well, it for here and is actually a 92mm fan, not 120, but still works pretty well on the 11900h engineering sample version board
I'm in love with the idea of getting one of these, but which one is the best buy right now? I'm trying to build a gaming rig on a budget, but I'm a bit confused about all the options. Also I saw the review of the RX580. Is that still a good option, or whats the new cheap best GPU? Please link to any recommendations on Aliexpress. I appreciate any help. Thanks. :)
are you still happy with this board? should I buy one? also what do you think about NAS or pfsense server running on a board like that? do they support ECC memory? Thank you in advance pal.
I want to see more of this did you figure all the kinks out 3200mhz ram speed? have you found anymore problems, can you firmware update or have a lack of supported drivers?
you could run games at 1440p or 4K as the higher the resolution, the less CPU is important and GPU starts to matter. Could be interesting to revisit this setup with 4090.
If you like heavy ales come over to UK for a while. The main stream breweries do some great stuff but there are a miriad of smaller breweries as well. A lot of breweries do tours which give you a good grounding into how the stuff is made, plus there may be some taste testing.
Running the I9-11900K here with memory overclocking set at pc3200 which is native for the 11900 btw. 3,5 Ghz is base frequency but memory settings have it running at 4.8 Ghz and single cores boost to 5.2 Ghz. TDP is 125 Watts on this desktop one. Oh man nice price my CPU was $263 lol. I encode though and have liquid cooling.
Very interesting proposition and great value for the performance available. Tempted to get one of these even with the gamble on the es version being decent. Thanks for sharing with us
I can comeup with many reasons why this is a cool idea. One, I was poor for a good part of my life and had to use a laptop board mounted to a table with a case fan and old intel heatsink, you can get more performance than you think from a mobo, if you need a dual pc setup for streaming and don't have good power in your house, you can run one as the stream pc. Could be a cool solar powered pc for an RV
This is impressive for the money. I just upgraded to an E5-2696v3 ($51) with turbo-unlock (18C/36T, max boost 3.8Ghz) and under CB R15 it scores 2500. However, the TDP is 145W. For less than half the power draw, this hybrid combo is incredible.
@@cena777248 I am using the HuananZhi X99TF (the model with 4 DIMM slots DDR3 & 4 DIMM slots DDR4). I am not overclocking. Rather, using Turbo-Unlock with under-volting. I did this easily by using MiyConst software called Mi899. TurboUnlocking with his software tool is a breeze. I opted to use a -50/-50mV undervolt (custom bios) selected within the Mi899 tool. My system is also scoring well on CB R23, with a multi score of over 20,000 pts. Runs cool, easilt cooled on air (6x6mm pipe, dual 120mm fan CPU cooler) and never exceeds 53C with 20C ambient.
Hi there ; I watched your video on this and had just the place for it. Cant seem to find the many missing PCI drivers and simple communication controller drivers. Did you have any luck with that? Thanks Joe
I’ve been looking at this board for the base of a proxmox home setup to run truenas, pfsense, and a docker server. I wish this had a couple more pcie slots. I’d happily take four 4x pcie slots over the one 16x
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Est il possible de ''transformer'' un système composé d un x79 et d un Xeon E5 v4 14/22core ( ram , hdd, GPU pce X3 x16 etc ....) En laptop avec batterie (🔋🔋🔋) et avec 2h d'autonome ?
Est il possible de faire un fichier pdf (tutorial ) please ?
Merci pour la vidéo 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
intel XTU should help with power limits adjustments
WHY SHOW US SOMETHING WE CANT BUY
It was rather nice to see a actual decent board from a chinese manufacturer, even mores o to see a board like this, where they put something on there that it wasnt meant to have... but they made it work. (Mostly)
Think theyd stick around to do more work? Or will they dissappear into the ether after a few months?
All it needs is decent cooling.. ;-)
Hey, there are some brazilian youtubers who tested this kit, and they found out how to set the memory xmp correct profiles and all this little things like letting the cpu hold the boost for undefinelied amount of time. But be aware that the mobo heatsink are not the best to that situation. A good youtuber that had made a good amount of testing on this mobo is called Mario Mazotti.
I'll give him a look. Thanks!
rn i'm using the i7 variant. and man that chip performs
So how did they change the xmp profiles?
BIOS has A LOT of functions but unfortunately it’s all buried down into several menus. Enabling that OC menu also enables XTU on Windows.
What mounting type is used by that motherboard? I'm thinking in buying one but I don't know which air cooler can I use with it.
These need to come out in the ITX form factor. This would be awesome in a media PC since it won't need a giant cooler.
i had one with a 11800h and those motherboard are around DTX size, i was able to fit the mobo in a mini itx case
@@robertocuello6669 I've got an old Silverstone SG05 that I currently have a B350 board with a 5600 in it. I want to make a second system that size with one of these boards, and that would require ITX.
@@GOPACKERSJT I haven't tried on that specific case, but I tried with a Silverstone sg13 and does not fit in there
For a media PC Intel Stock cooler is enough. If it not enough than you have bad computer case tha no enough air vent or/and you need adjust TDP settings and/or undervolt CPU in MOBO BIOS settings menu.
They just released one with an 12700H
Prices have already went up to $300+. As soon as anyone reviews these things the prices always double or more.
I bought a unit for €219...
It hasn't been delivered yet, it is acaring the crap out of me
The Engineering samples are gone so all that is available are units with retail CPUs. That is why the price is so much higher. Looks like the ES models went up to 199 but are now completely out of stock as well.
@@NScherdin They still have them on Taobao.
Prices already drop again
@@janrozema7650 did it deliver
With how it fairs with multithreaded workloads and its low wattage, this honestly would be an excellent choice for server use, mix this with a HBA card in the PCIe slot and an M.2 2.5Gig or 10 gig lan port. 2 NVMe drives for redundant boot devices and a small case. This is excellent value.
My only concern with that is the listing on aliexpress does mention that some people have troubles with virtualization.
Hopefully we will get some more videos on this motherboard and cpu though.
This thing could also take a fully passive cooler and fit in one of those newer boxy matx cases like the Sama IM01.
I do hope we get a follow up with using this as a server and the possible power draw we could see from a setup like that.
Exactly what I was thinking! Included QSV makes it very appealing for transcoding also!
@@molohov3875 plexelent 🤣🤣
Dawid did a thing on this earlier and I will still say it's worth it for a smaller simpler build that could still be relevant for at least a few years. The GPUs that would work well with this set up should hold up for even longer.
David’s wasn’t the 11900H variant though. Still this combo seems worth it for a cheap gaming build
tons of people still use 6th-8th gen intel era as gaming computers today. a few years is a understatement unless theres some massive performance requirement in games that suddenly appear. but it looks like we are still a few years away from that
"A few years at least". Me playing everything I like with a i7 6700 and Rx6400 at 60fps 1080p
@@DienerNoUta I do agree. To be quite fair, I have an i7-3770k with an Aorus RTX 2080 and 32gb of 1866 mhz ram. Everything has been overclocked and timings have been tightened. This old rig was made just before "the pandemic."
Sadly this went up in price nearly 100% + going out of stock while the non ES versions are even more expensive. Nice video though.
Yeah, I just checked the link and it's $460CAD+ which could easily get you a modern CPU and motherboard from a local retailer.
what is non es
@@wcg66 The combo with ram and ssd is 395 weird. Is it worth it in your opinion? What would you get for that ammout.
You dodged a bullet.
If you're willing to buy off taobao the price for the boards before USA shipping is 132$
Just so you know, we definitely want to see an update video or 2 on this one 😊
I purchased the non-ES i7-11800H board that they sell a few days ago, this video has me very excited given that this performance is from the ES version. I originally bought the board for use as a home server, but now I might give it a shot to see how it stacks against my i5-12400 when paired with a 3080. It’s very exciting to see these neat things at these price points.
it would be interesting to see after unlimited turbo unlock and XMP if it would bottleneck a 3080. Keep us updated!
I also ordered, but in a kit with ram and ssd. I want to give it good cooling and OC it, but they had only with an engineering sample (I9 11900H), i hope they got the multiplier unlocked, or at least the turbo unlock feature.
ES will stand for Engineering Sample?
Mobile chips on a micro ATX board is a "brilliant" idea for small form factor, low power and heat controllable machines. Love it!
This was the most natural Jeff has ever been in a video. (IMHO that is) The least amount of "News Anchor Voice" where every end word of a sentence is drawn out way too long with a high inflection. 😉
Glad someone else noticed that!
Feels way more natural when he's not hamming it up
Our guy breaking his MSM inflections
100 %
He’s being professional…
You shoulda trusted your wife, my dude.
Currently using one of these boards with a Chinese 6600M as my main computer. Gentoo is snappy. Big upgrade over my FM2+ system.
pile driver? yeah huge leap to go from that to 10nm
Whoa! You were still rocking FM2+? That’s impressive!
@@sinephase Steamroller
@utp216 still usable for shitposting. I do like compilation times being much faster tho
I loved my A8 5600k! 4.2ghz OC all core and held up to my gtx 760 rather well
I just clicked the link for this CPU/MB kit. You said it was $160. It is shown as $325.
nice! dawid made a video about this motherboard today aswell.
but jeff has cool cats
But you didn’t?
Just bought one as the start of a Proxmox/OPNsense setup to replace my old i5-3550 Dell Optiplex OPNsense router. Excited to get this in, might make a video on the setup.
I was able to pick one up before the price doubled! Hopefully this will play nice with unraid.
What I think? I just bought one in this instant.
FYI, my first lab server was builded after your review of a x79 motherboard and, to this day, it's working flawlessly.
Wondering how this would perform as a 1u proxmox node
I was just thinking along the same lines like proxmox, unRAID or xpenology
Same here! Wondering long term stability
1U is such a bad option for anything but the densest racks.
It is loud, more expensive (since you have to shoehorn parts into it), hotter, and has less expansion options.
There is REALLY no need for 1U stuff in a soho/home rack.
2U, on the other hand, will fit 80mm fans, and can be made cool/quiet on a budget.
Sadly that chip still needs active cooling, that means noise tiny fan... Maybe it can be downclocked and turbo disabled and it would still have a great use case + passiv / indirectly cooled by the 1U case fans.
P.S. DAWID DOES TECH STUFF took out aluminum plate and just hand held a cpu cooler, it actually dropped even more its temps with direct contact to chip and some thermal paste, ill see if i can manage to do that also since well.. its not engineered to be mounted with out the spacer.
I do not know if you will agree with me, but limiting the TDP a bit this seems like would make for a nice NAS motherboard, using Xpenology or TrueNAS.
Nowadays motherboards with jasper lake are even more expensive than this, much less capable, I am not sure about efficiency if this combo is properly tuned.
The problem is going to be PCIe lanes at that point.
You have to decide between a high-speed networking card or an HBA.
You also have no bifurcation support for using a cheap 4x4x4x4 card with 4x NVMe drives.
I just got one of these combos (in March 2024) for $191 total shipped using a $25 Aliexpress coupon. I haven't touched the BIOS and out of the box it's running consistently at 4.1ghz and 78-80 watts in benchmarking. I'm using the Erying CPU cooler and it hasn't gotten above 75C and I've been running this thing full-throttle for a solid half hour. I will continue to test this over the next few weeks. I was planning on using it in an off-site unRAID server/NAS, but if it remains stable, I'm going to feel bad about "wasting" a powerful CPU for such a basic application.
great video! Bought the 11800h version for 135 after I finished watching because the one linked was out of stock and other listings for the 11900h were around 250+ now. Will be a solid little platform and I can't wait to play around with it for a lan rig
Link for 135
Way more expensive now.
@@vincei4252 just get the engineering sample ones, those are the cheap ones and as long as you get the 8c variant you got 4.5 ghz boost. the 6c only goes up to 4.1
The 11980HK model is now $317
Managed to find one with an ES of an 11980HK for $180 somehow, gotta wait til it arrives to see if it was a scam or not tho
Got my i9 11900h ES kit for 150€. Best purchase in a while. I'm running the cpu at 4.8ghz all cores. With the proper confuguration and thermal solutions it's a banger.
Hola amigo, en donde lo puedo conseguir a ese precio? gracias de antemano y suerte
@@jonathanp5249 It bought it in December. Since then the price as gone up considerably
I bought an Erying M-ATX 2.6Ghz ES 0000 for $177 back in March 2024. It is an i9 11980HK engineering sample. I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 and it has become my daily driver. It runs on a PICO-ATX power supply with 12V DC power supply or my LiFePO4 battery bank when the power is off. It draws at most 8 amps but usually around 3 amps. My main RYZEN PC died and I never fixed this I just kept rolling. This thing is for real.
I hoped the 12th gen version of this thing would be amazing
But it seems that there is something wrong and the CPU can't reach the boost clock. The company said they couldn't find a solution for it
i heard the same about 11th gen.... and here we are with 11th gen on custom boards
That sucks. 12th and 13th gen mobile chips are a huge improvement over the 11th gen and prior.
Dawid does tech did a review of this as well and couldn't find a way to boost ram speeds. He did however find that it performed better if you removed the heat sink they put on there and used a different cooler. But, finding one to fit it properly is a different task. He ended up just placing an air cooler on and didn't fasten it
I just ordered one.
I was looking at getting a modern NUC replace my home server (currently an old 4700MQ laptop) and my gaming / development desktop (currently an AliExpress X99 motherboard & 2640v3), but I've been looking for a more power efficient system that can run all day and perform double duty.
This might just be it! The advantage over a NUC is no need to eGPU for gaming purposes, with all of the drawbacks that come with an eGPU setup.
At this price (it was listed as 195 euros, but when I checked out it was discounted to 163 euros) it is too good to pass, especially with two ringing endorsements from RUclips channels I trust!
How is it can you just update me im thinking of buying 1 is it worth it
The mobo is out of stock already.... I guess it wasn't very popular
Not only does this board look absolutely sick for gaming but I'm looking at putting together an openWRT router to upgrade my networking setup at some point in the future and the 11800H version is looking cheap and much less power hungry than any older desktop x86 I could get at the price. It seems very doable with a couple of those M.2 NICs and a decent wifi card.
The issue is that now is nowhere to be found under 380€
Nice adding the Silicon Power A55 1tb. Fantastic value SSD I run in my Proxmox server for storage.
$45 for 1TB with SLC Cache. It's insane!
I bought an Erying M-ATX 2.6Ghz ES 0000 for $177 back in March 2024. It is an i9 11980HK engineering sample. I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition 6 and it has become my daily driver. It runs on a PICO-ATX power supply with 12V DC power supply or my LiFePO4 battery bank when the power is off. It draws at most 8 amps but usually around 3 amps. My main RYZEN PC died and I never fixed this I just kept rolling. This thing is for real.
Id like to see more unique chinese ITX boards since chinese manufactures seem pretty invested in ITX cases and cooler designs. ITX board options are always limited even tho ppl will spend insane amounts of money to get the smallest ITX builds possible. Would you also be willing to send the board over to Actually Hardcore Overclocking to do a component mobo analysis?
This board comes with gearmode 2 as default. You can get much higher performance with the right settings. Also worth saying is that Erying post sales is very bad.
Beauregard is easily one of my favorite breweries. I can walk there, but I usually opt to drive because I could never carry that much beer home with me without my vehicle. I'd strongly recommend their ice beers.
As for the hardware, I'm wondering if this solution would make a way better emulation setup than my little retropi. And with the prices the Rpi is going for nowadays, little cheap boards like this with integrated CPU start to look very attractive as an alternative.
I did consider the offer the company has relating to these boards. Full details are on the sales pages. Way back in the day, I did run an intel mobile cpu that was known to be compatible with the then cpu socket in use. The one I had, didn't overclock much, It's main advantage was significantly lower power requirements.
I saw some disclaimer on aliexpress that virtualization is problematic (ie. not working) on the engineering sample models. Can you do a video on what's broken? Also, Erying warns about crashes and lock-ups with dedicated GPUs and benchmarking/sysinfo software. I'd be curious to see a video on what the negatives of an ES model are.
It's nicely presented E-waste best thing for those ES CPUs is a crusher.
This seems like the perfect option to build the speedy little distributed home cluster I always wanted. Compact but actual expansion slots for fast networking unlike mini PCs, low power unlike old server hardware and the fast single core performance of a modern chip. And cheap enough to buy a couple without immediatly going bankrupt.
Interesting. The 'Overclocking Performance Menu' looks identical to the one used by older, unlocked AMI bioses found on Intel laptops. Something tells me this board does indeed use a mobile chipset. *EDIT* Indeed, its the HM570, as per CPUZ
LOL I got one of these just last week, ordered in a month ago on whim, I got the 11980hk, talked to the sales rep and they started to design 12th gen so I might get one of those to
I've heard of 12th gen boards being work in progress, so those could potentially make a great value option for productivity tasks due to the uplift in thread count.
Erying currently sells the 12700h model as well. It's priced at 223$ before USA shipping
Will they fry up less
@@Koekje__ got one of those. Borderline useless. Will work perfectly one day, next day doesn't even power up anymore. Need to remove graphics card, clear cmos, try again, not working, try again, push reset together with power button (according to some people) .... nothing works. Go for a coffee, come back 10 minutes later, press power and the thing works. Totally unreliable. Bios is having major stability issues (for example, change the "silent boot" setting to disabled ? Board refuses to start. Erying themselves are a bad joke in terms of support stating "if the board starts, there's no problem". The fact it only gets into a POST "when it feels like it" makes no difference to them. Board also not capable of bios flashing unless using an external programmer. My advise based on personal experience ? Only buy when you have money to burn.
Please do a virtualization video with this motherboard!
To me it shows a $320 price. It looks they raised the price x2.
Supply and demand.
@CraftComputing I gotta say that your optimism on this is quite refreshing whereas others are reactions kinda just make fun or talk trash on these. The point to this video i feel is that you're gaming and having fun at a fraction of the cost of other platforms. Thanx a ton for the video! Keep it coming please....
Amazing value ☺️
Gotta give one of these a review phil
The G502SE mouse that you are using is *well known* to have crappy switches. The behavior you state is how the switches go bad. Replacing the Omron switches with Kaihl red switches solves the problem. I use that mouse on Linux with USB2 and 500 and 1khz polling rate and it works fine. I use Synergy, and it mirrors the hardware polling rate when remote controlling.
I purchased one of these boards as a server upgrade. Runs incredibly well and is extremely efficient
what do you run on your server with this board? do you VM?
Do you use virtualisation?
how long have you had it for? I'm worried I'll get bad luck and the board will fail?
@@otacon4065 Make sure it's have good cooling and it will last a long time I guess.
I wish i could try it with Intel XTU to manage manually boost time and max tdp and it somehow should be closer to the desktop variant. Can you try it and do a second video? Because i'm really intrested in buying but i don't wanna blow up my money. Thank you.
The 11980HK was 192$ now its like 300$... I missed out
$329 now
Damn it was that cheap for the 11980? I REALLY missed out then :(
just ordered one of these with the VRM upgraded heatsinks Erying offers. Super excited! More videos with this please! I will pair mine with a corsair aio
This is VERY cool! I love these whacky motherboards
I definitely wasn't expecting 4.5GHz boost in games!
Great video!!! I did the HP Z440 build you showed a few months ago. I will be building this one too!! Keep up the great work!!
i love the ridiculous chinese stuff you are able to find. this is too fun. wonder if you can pop that IHS off there and do something like a liquid metal interface, or if it's soldered. really solid little board, very impressed
also love the weird/crazy/ridiculous aliexpress purchases.
dawid does tech stuff got an i7 of the same board, and did direct die cooling.
@@LordFader but no proper mount, as you have to go old school with spacers and such to mount a cooler properly
dawid did a review and it's just normal thermal paste under it
You can buy the sockets and cpu unmounted, but are warned about the challenges of soldering the tiny BGA,
I so would like a revisit to this motherboard to see if you figured out the XMP settings and overclocking! Love what you do! Thanks for all your hard work!
I got one, I did find where to set the XMP1 profile on it but haven't messed much with overclocking as I don't know what I'm doing
Such motherboard is already a success here in Brazil. We might be poor, but we know where we put our money.
Hello Linux guy
@@MarioMazzotti Mario, você por aqui.
@@pedrohqb I am everywhere
@@MarioMazzotti Indeed, not only in the closet.
@@pedrohqb I don't think English speaking people will understand the closet thingy..... It is unfortunate actually, but okay...
I have one of those. It's really fun but unfortunately my sample didn't handle higher clocks well, left it stock and removed the power limit and called it a day. Great performance for the price.
Those erying boards with mobile 10th/11th gen chips are insane. They have the i9 11th gen board, 16gb of 3200MT/s ram and a nvme drive for like $260 which is a ridiculous value for a quick and dirty general use machine that would just tear through common everyday tasks. I could see these being great bases for very inexpensive but extremely capable gaming rigs. Base clock on the retail 11900h is 2.50GHz according to intel arc btw.
You are better off getting the RAM from Ebay and the NVMe drive(s) from Amazon.
I'm looking at 2x16GB of 3200 used for $48.
And you can get a 1TB SSD from a top brand for ~$50.
So you'd be getting double the ram and quadruple the SSD for the same price.
theres one problem, now that there is good press they will increase prices once orders start comming in.
its happened every time a good chinese company sells well on aliexpress
What Intel arc? Arc GPUs?
i have been eye balling that board from ali express but i ended up buying a 12900kf ES chip from aliexpress however you have satisfied my thoughts on that 11900h board what did it in the end was i found a used z690 board for 90 bucks if not i would have bought the tigerlake board
I love how the ES version of the board conveniently no longer exists (unless you get the 256 buck combo version) as the reviews go up between you and dawid. Now you can only get the more expensive non ES version of the board for like 220 bucks lol. Typical Chinese bullcrap.
I'm not surprised that between the nearly 900K combined subscribers on our channels, releasing a video on the same product on the same day, that demand suddenly skyrocketed.
@@CraftComputing I hope you're getting your share off of this merchant. They are making a metric shitload of cash from you and Dawid reviewing these products, judging by how fast the sold out after.
You probably got a “golden engineering sample” and that’s nice. I would check in the bios for power limits and just max them out. The memory you can increase to 1.35v and set your speed manually. You can keep XMP enabled and set speed to around 3200MHz or you can just not use XMP…..set your speed…..and use auto timings. Not sure what your CPU voltage was…….but you could try lowering it slightly. Pretty sure you can get more out of this platform. It intrigues me so I think I’ll purchase one for a budget build. Great work my man. Also, I think you should try different beers with every show and critique those also…….happy trails from Canada 😊
A motherboard from China..... Hard PASS thumbs WAY down
Get over yourself.
It would be very interesting to see how it works on Mac OS, tests, etc., since Ryzens have problems with Mac OS, but if Intel and video are from AMD, maybe this is the best option for working in Mac OS
Excellent video, thank you. But.. you tested it based on stock Windows right? I'd bet money that the USB would work great on a customized install of windows especially after running something like iobit driver booster. Hardware wise, there's no reason USB shouldnt work great for gaming scenarios, that must be some sort of driver glitch.
I've heard these are more of a DTX form factor than mATX. Any word on whether this would fit in a case that accommodates Mini-ITX & Mini-DTX, such as the NR200p?
This same chip was on the on Asus ROG zephyrus M16 2021, the hole laptop was sold nearly $2000 😅
I saw someone else review this, these systems are going to be incredible value for budget systems as long as the price and supply holds, I mean, there can only be so many laptop engineering samples
I saw dawid took a look at their i7 variant and I was like what about the i9k. Thanks for taking a look at the i9 variant.
People like you make RUclips a priceless platform! Thank you so much for the info!
The deal-breaker for me is that none of these boards support Windows sleep mode. This has been noted on their Chinese Taobao store listings.
We MUST find a way to bypass the 45 watt limit. The all core max frequency should be 4.5 ghz. I got my son a laptop with a 11800h and the all core for it is 4.2. Since his is an Eluktronics Max 17 we can adjust the max CPU draw up to something like 120watts but since it is a fairly thin chassis it is heavily limited by thermals.
From the two or three videos I've seen on this, yours included, and looking at them on ali express and reading through their (very detailed) listings, I have to say I'm impressed, and I'm thrilled to see a chinese company making a solid, and for all intents and purposes, exceptional product, and that it, to all appearances, does not look like it lies about anything or is a scam.
Prices are already starting to go up as people jump on these, but hopefully that encourages the company to make more. They've released a great product, sort of out of nowhere!
I just got mine going. It is very quick. I couldn't get integrated graphics working. It would only use a very old default driver. But I will use a graphics card.
need a follow-up video using it as a server
Wild question, where do you get these beers? Do you just live close to a local importer or is there a way to buy them online? (I was under assumption there was a shipping issue with alcoholic beverages.) I'd love to get my hands on quite a few of the ones you've showcased, but my local selection is... lacking.
I was thinking it would make a good lab server. You have an IGP. The low power draw would make even a 1U case pretty usable. While it lacks a lot of server features it should still preform pretty well for the price.
I was already going to buy one of these before I watched this review, but now I can't WAIT to get my hands on one! It's funny you mention how overkill your cooling is for this setup, because I'm going to use a Chinese 6-pipe dual tower 115x cooler for mine, which is totally in "diminishing returns" territory, but also only around $25.
Haha, i ordered one as well, it for here and is actually a 92mm fan, not 120, but still works pretty well on the 11900h engineering sample version board
Probably can run that passivly
I'm in love with the idea of getting one of these, but which one is the best buy right now?
I'm trying to build a gaming rig on a budget, but I'm a bit confused about all the options.
Also I saw the review of the RX580. Is that still a good option, or whats the new cheap best GPU?
Please link to any recommendations on Aliexpress.
I appreciate any help. Thanks. :)
are you still happy with this board? should I buy one? also what do you think about NAS or pfsense server running on a board like that? do they support ECC memory? Thank you in advance pal.
Wow, Viewed yesterday and ordered immediately, so glad I did as today the ES variant is out of stock. Thanks
They did come back in stock, price increased 10% and all gone again (were ￡159.45 GBP, then restocked @ ￡172.53) still sold out
Excellent board, and price/performance ratio. What about powerr usage though (sorry, but in the UK, it does matter)
if you can tighten timings it may be worth getting a crucial 3200 JDEC kit for this
I was thinking the same thing.
I want to see more of this did you figure all the kinks out 3200mhz ram speed? have you found anymore problems, can you firmware update or have a lack of supported drivers?
you could run games at 1440p or 4K as the higher the resolution, the less CPU is important and GPU starts to matter. Could be interesting to revisit this setup with 4090.
Price has gone up like crazy, i'm not able to find this for less than 250
309 euro's, thats a hell lot more than 165$.
The first link you provided is not a 11900h but a 11800h.
Nice video and review!
I looked up the price and a 12700h board cost just 1600 cny which is 230 usd, you cab biuld a budget 20 thread workstation with it
If you like heavy ales come over to UK for a while. The main stream breweries do some great stuff but there are a miriad of smaller breweries as well. A lot of breweries do tours which give you a good grounding into how the stuff is made, plus there may be some taste testing.
Running the I9-11900K here with memory overclocking set at pc3200 which is native for the 11900 btw. 3,5 Ghz is base frequency but memory settings have it running at 4.8 Ghz and single cores boost to 5.2 Ghz. TDP is 125 Watts on this desktop one. Oh man nice price my CPU was $263 lol. I encode though and have liquid cooling.
Very interesting proposition and great value for the performance available. Tempted to get one of these even with the gamble on the es version being decent. Thanks for sharing with us
I can comeup with many reasons why this is a cool idea. One, I was poor for a good part of my life and had to use a laptop board mounted to a table with a case fan and old intel heatsink, you can get more performance than you think from a mobo, if you need a dual pc setup for streaming and don't have good power in your house, you can run one as the stream pc. Could be a cool solar powered pc for an RV
try using the Ultimate power plan itll lock the cpu at max and ignore turbo limits
....aaaaaand, the price doubled.
I'll have to do some digging. This is a fantastic price:power:performance ratio for building out a k8s cluster.
This is impressive for the money. I just upgraded to an E5-2696v3 ($51) with turbo-unlock (18C/36T, max boost 3.8Ghz) and under CB R15 it scores 2500. However, the TDP is 145W. For less than half the power draw, this hybrid combo is incredible.
What motherboard you are using and how you overclocked it?
@@cena777248 I am using the HuananZhi X99TF (the model with 4 DIMM slots DDR3 & 4 DIMM slots DDR4). I am not overclocking. Rather, using Turbo-Unlock with under-volting. I did this easily by using MiyConst software called Mi899. TurboUnlocking with his software tool is a breeze. I opted to use a -50/-50mV undervolt (custom bios) selected within the Mi899 tool. My system is also scoring well on CB R23, with a multi score of over 20,000 pts. Runs cool, easilt cooled on air (6x6mm pipe, dual 120mm fan CPU cooler) and never exceeds 53C with 20C ambient.
Hi there ;
I watched your video on this and had just the place for it.
Cant seem to find the many missing PCI drivers and simple communication controller drivers.
Did you have any luck with that?
Thanks
Joe
I wish it was ITX form factor. It will be a great for SFF PC since high end Low profile coolers are enough to cool the CPU.
I actually want that. And also why do I suddenly feel like the price and availability is about to both skyrocket and disappear
Do you need a video card for this? Can you use straight from the HDMI or displayport?
You can, though the one I received had internal graphics disabled by default so you may need to borrow a GPU just to enable them
And... Prices have skyrocketed 🚀
I’ve been looking at this board for the base of a proxmox home setup to run truenas, pfsense, and a docker server. I wish this had a couple more pcie slots. I’d happily take four 4x pcie slots over the one 16x
Honestly couldn't resist, with it's low power this will replace a couple of my homelab proxmox servers, thanks!
Sold out fast,
Went to Aliexpress added the board to my card and by the time I got to the payment window it was sold out. :-(