The Best Training Method For Improving Martial Arts Skill with Gabriel Varga

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  • Six time world champion ‪@GabrielVargaOfficial‬ explains how to construct a drill that will allow you to take techniques you have learned in class and apply them in sparring and eventually in a fight.
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Комментарии • 234

  • @MMAShredded
    @MMAShredded Год назад +188

    cool video!

    • @jaxcinatovall5073
      @jaxcinatovall5073 Год назад +11

      I love how the self defense championship thing brought all these channels together

    • @niroz6579
      @niroz6579 Год назад

      This is exactly what I asked about when asking about your course . ( trying to understand if it's include this type of progression )

  • @TheElbowMerchant
    @TheElbowMerchant Год назад +174

    I take a lot of what I see on this channel (particularly footwork and distance management) and try to apply it to sparring. I don't always pull it off, but sometimes it works and I'll keep it in my repertoire. I've only improved from sparring against people who are better than me, or sparring at 50% speed and power against everyone else. With all of that said, I never give up on a technique, even if I'm embarrassingly bad at it, until I get somewhat proficient with it.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +68

      Keep grinding. There are shortcuts... but they won't get you as far as the path you're on.

    • @TheElbowMerchant
      @TheElbowMerchant Год назад +9

      @@hard2hurt Will do. Thanks, Mike.

    • @BiggityBoggity8095
      @BiggityBoggity8095 Год назад +4

      @@hard2hurt this is just my opinion and you can feel free to disregard me. But I respectfully disagree with your method of holding people from sparring for 3 months. Part of why Jiu Jitsu schools have better teaching and a culture that’s more conducive to learning is because they encourage sparring ASAP. Regardless of experience levels. This is, IMO, the correct approach. I would be extremely discouraged, saddened, and bored to tears if I joined a gym and knew I wouldn’t be allowed to spar until 3 months in. From my perspective, I should be allowed to spar the moment I pay my monthly fee.
      I simply can’t see a good reason to do that to someone. If they go too hard because they don’t understand yet that sparring isn’t a fight, I’d personally argue they need 1:1 sparring sessions with the coach and the gym enforcers. That way they can be taught control and how to be nice. If that doesn’t work, then you can revoke their sparring privileges. If it’s a situation where your established gym members might go too hard on them in sparring, then I can see why you’d hold a new member back for 3 months. But it would also speak to the culture you’ve built in that gym. Perhaps you’ve encouraged people to go a little too hard without teaching them control.
      I remember my first MT class, I was 12 and my coach threw me in with a heavy weight for sparring. I had no idea what I was doing but I had the time of my life. That experience was so awesome and I knew I wanted to pursue this as a life long passion. Then over time I had to learn that sparring is not a fight and I was schooled by later coaches on how to be controlled and play nice. And after I learned to do that, sparring became even more amazing. IMO, that’s the right move. Push everyone into sparring right away. People that don’t understand how to spar correctly can be isolated and their problems can be solved
      I’d love to pick your brain on this. Why do you do it your way? I want to hear your reasoning, if you’d ever be so kind as to get back to me. Perhaps this would be worthy of its own video.

    • @Ash__Adler
      @Ash__Adler Год назад +8

      ​@@BiggityBoggity8095 One of the problems with sparring early is you don't know enough to actually learn from it, so you're getting beat up (hopefully just metaphorically, assuming you're at a gym with good sparring culture) with very little benefit. My muay thai kru never said anything to me about when I was or wasn't ready for sparring, but I waited for about 3 months of my own volition to give myself time to develop enough foundation to (a) feel like I could keep myself safe defensively and (b) actually process what was happening in order to respond during the round and learn for the longer term. My BJJ coach had me just do grip fighting and situational sparring for the first week or two, then I went into full open sparring. About 2 months in now, I kept getting mounted by one person I worked with yesterday, and when he asked if I had any situational questions, I told him outright that I don't know enough to know what to ask in a useful way.
      In short, sparring experience by itself is not valuable if you aren't learning. It's like doing a workout that gets you tired but doesn't actually improve your S&C (e.g. see all the gyms that have trainees run in circles to warm up 🙃)

    • @BiggityBoggity8095
      @BiggityBoggity8095 Год назад

      @@Ash__Adler I would argue that just as important as the practicality of a routine is how much you enjoy doing it. Unless you’re out here like Marvelous Marvin or Mike Tyson where you have the discipline to force yourself through anything no matter what. But only a select few phenoms are like that. For everyone else like you and me, if it’s not fun, we’re not gonna keep doing it.
      There are exceptions to that rule. A lot of the foot work drills I do, which I learned from Barry Robinson and Icy Mike, I find boring and they make me feel stupid. But I do them anyway because I appreciate the practical application. It’s like eating your vegetables. But the majority of what of what people do should be something they find fun, they look forward to it. For me, sparring is first place, and hitting pads is second.
      I do this not simply to get good at hurting people, but because learning how to hurt people is fun. And if I walk into a gym knowing that I’ll be held back from the most fun thing about this hobby, I’ll probably just do the free trial and never go back. In fact, I think I’d feel genuinely hurt if someone wouldn’t allow me to spar. I’d either read it as an insult or I’d feel like I did something bad to earn their mistrust. I want to spar. And if I can’t do it, then the class is useless to me. There’s no way I’m alone in feeling that way.

  • @BradYaeger
    @BradYaeger Год назад +53

    Part of what makes this type of drilling important as well is if you watch when Gabe feeds Mike some jabs to parry but Mike didn't follow with the kick it wasn't so much that he forgot as it was because he was moving backwards so it was the RIGHT TIME to do the kick so he didn't force the technique . So you are also learning to NOT to do certain things . Helps you realize nothing works 100% of the time .

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +33

      Live drilling does in fact teach you a lot of things that you don't even realize you are learning.

  • @heresjonny666
    @heresjonny666 Год назад +18

    Man, this is so true. It's something we constantly rag on in my HEMA group about too many other groups, who will have a new guy come in and literally kit them up and throw them into sparring on their first day after some appallingly basic introductions to the weapon. It's like NO! Let them learn the basic techniques, and how to be safe, then give them some pressure for those techniques, and THEN go spar.

    • @connorperrett9559
      @connorperrett9559 Год назад

      Sounds like you have more of a fight club than a martial arts club.

  • @jussanoodle
    @jussanoodle Год назад +61

    Hey just want to say, the videos you do on coaching and teaching are some of the best on the platform. You're very real with it all, and deliver it in a digestible manner. As someone who teaches martial arts, and has taught martial arts for a long time, it's always really educating to watch your videos, and I almost always bring something with me in the next lesson I teach. Keep it up!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +9

      Lessons on teaching are so rare... I wish there was more people doing this so that I could learn myself. I have been in some instructor level courses and done some instructor training... but it wasn't very actionable.

    • @Ash__Adler
      @Ash__Adler Год назад +2

      There's definitely a difference between the content from people who think about teaching effectively (e.g. Mike, Gabriel Varga, Joe Valtellini, Jordan Preisinger, Nathan Corbett) compared to people who think they can teach just because they were good fighters (won't name names because I'd rather only give publicity to the people doing it well 🙃).

    • @jussanoodle
      @jussanoodle Год назад

      @@hard2hurt Yeah all the ones I've attended try to hard to be deep and end up saying lots of words that mean nothing when put together. It's refreshing to be able to watch lessons with tangible and applicable methods, and definitely has helped me a lot

  • @Christianguy8
    @Christianguy8 Год назад +12

    When these two collab you know the video is going to be good.

  • @simplysimpinpodcastwiththe1144
    @simplysimpinpodcastwiththe1144 Год назад +32

    Love your content you are always very entertaining and I continue to learn and grow from watching your channel stay awesome icy Mike

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +10

      Thank you! Make sure you are subscribed to Gabriel too... he is the man.

  • @Muscleman09
    @Muscleman09 Год назад +2

    *My first day of Muay Thai I had sparring and got paired with someone with no self control really wish I would of had 3 months to learn*

  • @jacksonmuaythai
    @jacksonmuaythai Год назад +20

    To me, the ‘live drilling’ is sort of like sparring, but one partner is defending and another partner is using a lot of low kicks, or hooks, or etc (and of course at a much slower pace) I like it! Cool video

    • @juanmejiagomez5514
      @juanmejiagomez5514 Год назад +5

      Yeah, I recently started muay thai and the coach has us doing 1 or 2 strikes each but it can be kicks, punches or whatever, and I find it way more enjoyable than standard drilling because it really gets your mind thinking about how to deal with strikes coming your way without losing composure and without suffering unnecessary damage

  • @brauliochavez2231
    @brauliochavez2231 Год назад +1

    7:20 i uploaded a video of a really light sparring because my friend wanted to spar, she is barely begining so i was like mmm maeby learn a bit more ?, so she did, then we spared really light, and i posted some higlights, and the clasic people were like " oooh sure, you suck why are you sparring like that, spar with a true fighter so you get your ass kicked¡"... i think the ego is why people cant spar light or adjust their level to their opponent... and that just dumb.

  • @necromancer0616
    @necromancer0616 Год назад +5

    It's all about the READS! Add to that tequnique and turning those things into an automatic "go-to" is what sets fighters appart from one another. Also I think @hard2hurt, Mike you should do a video on how to counter the "Rush Down" in a street fight, because that's a very common attack tactic when faced with an attacker or several attackers in a street situation.

    • @necromancer0616
      @necromancer0616 Год назад +1

      @Busy right now It's funny you say that... I usualy find people who say those kinds of things are exactly what they say like, "Your full of shit!". Apparently you've never been in a gang or lived on the hard side of life. Learn to use you brain isnstead of your mouth!

  • @bunklypeppz
    @bunklypeppz Год назад +4

    I really like the idea behind this. I always find it a little frustrating when I'm training striking or grappling with people who have a fair amount of experience and they only want to do "drills" that just involve repeatedly throwing combinations on mitts without any competitive aspect or potential for failure.
    Doing totally compliant technique drills is fine for people who are just looking to get a workout or if you're just learning the technique, but too many people have this idea that just practicing a punching combination or a submission on a compliant partner over and over is the way you improve and I honestly feel like that type of training has almost no impact on your ability to use the techniques for real; in some cases it can make you worse, because without the risk of failure or being countered, you can easily develop habits that make those pitfalls more likely to occur.
    I think it's ideal to practice drills that you will initially fail at more often than succeeding, like the jab/leg kick one you do here at the start. I get the impression that a lot of people just assume it's a bad drill or it's not worth doing if they try it 10 times and fail 5 or more of those times, but in reality, that should be the kind of things that encourages you to practice more until you can pull it off more frequently. The benefit of that type of training is that you can try hard and fail often without getting hurt, which is not always the case in sparring and certainly not the case in a real fight. If you can't embrace the risk of failure, you're probably never going to find the ability to succeed.

    • @jonathanlochridge9462
      @jonathanlochridge9462 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, I personally am thinking a bit that for striking bagwork is probably mostly superior to completely compliant technique drills.
      The only thing it might help you do better is judge distance, maybe? Which is so is valuable?
      Although, this better type of drill where each person has a specific goal or set of things they are trying to do and repeat. Looks amazing. I wish my current teacher was good enough and knew enough about teaching to do that sort of thing, I have been looking for a better teacher.
      My current one knows a lot about the body and is a licensed nutritionist as well, so they have been able to tell me a lot about the physiology of stuff, but I don't even know if they have actually been in a fight/tournament although they have done it awhile, there just aren't many people arround where I am though.
      So they have said some stuff I think is useful though. Actual lessons are like mostly padwork or like shadowboxing occasionally a little heavy bag work.
      I know I am not ready for actual sparring though in this.
      (I did used to do like hema sparring and such though in the past.)

  • @S7ilgar
    @S7ilgar Год назад +2

    So happy to see my experience confirmed, I thought it was me who wasn't gifted for Martial Arts. We didn't do live drills in my dojo, neither in my Boxing club. I noticed this gap between drills and sparrings and what I did is focusing on one single thing I wanted to improve/restitute during my sparrings. I remembered it was working. Stupidly, I didn't do it on a systematic basis hence my not very impressive progress.

  • @NJFraney
    @NJFraney Год назад +1

    It’s okay to run through it super slow the first couple of tries to understand what it is you’re doing but then you should definitely be moving around and live drilling very soon after. We say “don’t be a fish” in our gym. Meaning don’t just stand there and let them hit you. Play defense and move make them apply the combo or move where they see an opening.

  • @mjjohn7715
    @mjjohn7715 Год назад +2

    I'm going to watch all of Mike's videos with Gabriel

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative Год назад +1

    Chuck Norris can tie his shoes with his feet.

  • @chadwithautism
    @chadwithautism Год назад +1

    The problem is that people tend to teach the fundamentals along with these sequenced drills without letting their fighters understand the underlying rudiments as to why certain techniques are even deemed fundamentals to begin with. As weird as your techniques may look or develop to become, as long as they don't break the fundamental rudiments of whatever the fundamentals of your art is or implies, it will more or less find its way to work. In the end it really comes down to the individual, and as much as things are black and white inside the ring, talent really shouldn't be seen as black and white.

  • @thor498
    @thor498 Год назад +1

    This is technical sparring

  • @StrangerThing369
    @StrangerThing369 Год назад +3

    yes!

  • @megamanx766
    @megamanx766 Год назад +3

    Watching you from the past few years has taught me to be more flexible and open-minded about fighting. I was limiting myself from capitalizing on opportunities by being too rigid about techniques and you made me realize how impractical it is.

  • @christophervelez1561
    @christophervelez1561 Год назад +1

    Icy Mike can you do a break down of what this concept looks like in wrestling or bjj? I tend to get 1 of 2 reactions from my students when I try to implement something like this either I get the guy who is a limp noodle or the stiff as a board which breaks the drill. Do you have any advice on how to better introduce this concept? I've tried the (show me what 50% looks like) which my students will do that part well but when the execution of the technique happens they either collapse or give too much resistance in that phase of the technique.
    In theory I thought it could be easier than how you show it in striking due to the fact that the you can literally feel your partner. This channel is a gold mine for me btw. I love the fact that you do breakdowns like this. I also am rooting for you in the ultimate self defense championship!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +2

      Unfortunately I don't have enough grappling expertise... but grappling schools are really bad about this too.

  • @Gun.Barrel
    @Gun.Barrel Год назад +1

    It was Eisenhower who said Planning is essential, but plans are useless. Mean, planning or drilling is important, but the plan will be useless in the actual engagement. Fights are chaotic because you forget that you can not make your opponent's plans for him or her. Sun Tzu, "Know your enemy"

  • @crazymike1706
    @crazymike1706 Год назад

    Culture and audience plays a role. For example, In Thailand, the pad holders sweep and kick back, that would never be acceptable in a commercial kickboxing gym

  • @AllweHaveIsTime
    @AllweHaveIsTime 6 дней назад

    My current gym does live drilling and i only now can appreciate how much better i am compared to the last gym i trained at

  • @alexandertheok5649
    @alexandertheok5649 Год назад +7

    I went to a gym that actually spars from day 1 but it's light and chill sparring. When pros train w each other they go harder, but when it's with a newbie and a pro or newbie v newbie it's always light.
    And I have to say it helped me get better pretty fast

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад

      Better at what?

    • @alexandertheok5649
      @alexandertheok5649 Год назад +2

      @@hard2hurt
      Applying techniques we drill that day in actual sparring, I suppose? Both combos, footwork and grappling (and also helped a lot to smoothen my transition between striking and grappling). Though truth is we also do live drills (usually we do regular drills, then live drills, then light sparring, in a 90 minute session)

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +4

      You're better at applying them in light and chill sparring. That is very different than applying them in any other context. It is different in type, not amount. It is akin to teachers teaching you how to pass the tests they created, rather than teach you how to _do the thing_.
      I train very regularly with several guys who are very good in light sparring. They look like experts, but wilt instantly and completely when given real pressure. Not only are they not ready, they are barely any more ready than a person with no training.

    • @alexandertheok5649
      @alexandertheok5649 Год назад +1

      @@hard2hurt
      That's probably correct, I never thought of it this way.
      I'm moving gyms (irrespective of this, it's because I'm moving towns), but assuming my new gym will be similar, what would you advise to fill those gaps?
      I assume that hard sparring will come once I get to a certain degree of experience, but besides that is there anything you'd recommend?

  • @manuelschmoller2884
    @manuelschmoller2884 8 месяцев назад

    Just like it should be.
    First learn the move, then slowly and gradually increase the load (in this case by adding different shit to it, in weightlifting it would be to add plates... But the overall principle stays the same.)
    Awesome work guys!

  • @rickjack78
    @rickjack78 8 месяцев назад

    This makes me feel better about my boxing gym. This is how we drill with adding complexity and movement with resistance.
    And, I was disappointed the coach wouldn't let me spare at first. He actually said he'd let me know when I could spar depending on how much I practiced and improved rather than a set time limit.
    We only spar hard with visiting gyms which is often enough, but they keep it safe and matched correctly.
    I've heard this is more common with boxing gyms. Is that true?

  • @barrettdowell3985
    @barrettdowell3985 Год назад

    I saw the lights from the car skipping across the back wall and thought someone was hotboxing your studio 😂😂😂

  • @panoss2362
    @panoss2362 10 месяцев назад

    Hey , im new to kickboxing (im training for 3 months) and my coach put me to spar a brown belt... The guy was hard sparring me and yesterday got my ear swollen as hell. Should I move to another gym or shoul I tell my coach first?

  • @hipotonomous
    @hipotonomous Год назад

    I've heard this called honesty in training, and it's a real problem, not just in "traditional martial arts", but probably moreso.
    Compliant drills are useful in the very beginning. You need to get the body mechanics and feel what it's like to execute properly maybe a couple of times. After that, okay what's a good counter? What's a good reaction to that? Drill it so each partner can feel both sides.
    Then, what's nest? Or what happens if you miss the first reaction? Drill those.
    After all that, partners should just the drill flow. Maybe there's a scripted setup. But go where it takes you. Let students find reactions that work for them.
    Teach techniques. Drill the techniques. But add layers until it's all but freeform. That's how you build real muscle memory.

  • @uros2321
    @uros2321 Год назад

    Hello Mike, since I don't have a Gabriel Varga in my gym could you also show how to improve martial arts skills without Gabriel Varga, thank you.

  • @IHateHandleNames
    @IHateHandleNames Год назад +16

    This is a great video. I feel like this is desperately needed in grappling schools. I got so tired of "ok let's practice a technique 3 times each, then we are gonna roll".

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +12

      You mean how every bjj school class that's ever been taught is run?

  • @henrylewis5539
    @henrylewis5539 Год назад +4

    Your videos on these subjects make me grateful for the gym I go to. I feel very lucky to have found such a good one. My coach does things like what you are talking about here, and he is a humble and approachable guy as well. Meaning if you made a video on something we have not done, I could show it to him and he would be willing to try it out.
    Great video Icy Mike, you always put out great information.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +3

      I can assure you that he is a rare type.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад

      Great! You are indeed very lucky and right to be grateful

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад +1

      Great! You are indeed very lucky and right to be grateful

  • @simonbut8062
    @simonbut8062 2 месяца назад

    I trained Rattachai Muay Thai for a month when I went to Thailand
    Whenever I did one on ones , the coach spent the entire hour teaching me maybe two or three techniques or sequences and then live drilling them by making me read which technique I should use based on which offense he used

  • @nebojsabulatovic8899
    @nebojsabulatovic8899 Год назад

    Totaly true. Been training for 2mo. They badly needed a man for spar. And I was not able to trow more than 2,3 normal punches. Rest was who knows what techique and style. Not to mention I was exausted.

  • @Eric-bl8lp
    @Eric-bl8lp Год назад

    You could add this to your shadowboxing as well. Obviously you should be visualizing that you actually have an opponent especially when practicing your defense, so you can defend different techniques and then from there imagine they throw that technique

  • @nightshade7240
    @nightshade7240 Год назад

    Sparring should be drilling as much as it is combat. Sparring is just drilling where you throw in variables but you can't throw variables at new practitioners because they panic. I've found that's really the most important thing for new people getting hit for the first time, to reduce the level of panic. It's also true for intermediate practitioners as well. They mess up and they feel flummoxed but in a real fight, you don't have time to entertain of dwell on the mistakes, you just have to drill to fight that urge to need to stop and reflect or commiserate with yourself when making mistakes.
    Fighting is about who adapts from their mistakes most effectively. Drilling is about learning how to fight the need to pause or be distracted by what you perceive as you having done wrong. Imperfect fighting where you adapt well is more effective than technically perfect fighting done ineffectively. At the end of the day even the top level martial artists are constantly making mistakes.

  • @ThousandTimesNo
    @ThousandTimesNo Год назад

    First big mistake appears when You think You know what are You doing. - that's my experience not only in martial arts but in life too.

  • @PeterRSCFF
    @PeterRSCFF 5 месяцев назад

    It is critical to find sparring partners that know how to keep you in that state between comfortable and panic. There is a certain level of discomfort/cognitive load where you learn so fast and it sinks in deep. You need really good partners to spend a lot of time there.
    I like to talk about as a spectrum of composure.

  • @boarhead5573
    @boarhead5573 8 месяцев назад

    Interesting. I am a drummer training kick boxing right now and what you teach here is so similiar to learning improvising on an instrument.
    If you learn a new pattern, drilling it to death will not help.
    In order to use it freely you have to put it into the environment you want to use it in.
    In my case, songs, jams...all that stuff.

  • @tchaliz4925
    @tchaliz4925 Год назад

    So many senseïs should adopt these ideas about sparring! They do not and the guys run to the next muaythai or kickboxing gym to finally learn how to fight.

  • @phillskinner8671
    @phillskinner8671 Год назад +1

    SOLID advice here

  • @Deniz-ep9so
    @Deniz-ep9so Год назад

    can I consider Live drilling as for example in light sparring me trying to perform a certain technique ( Side step after combo for example ) while my partner freestyles ??

  • @stefan-c2m
    @stefan-c2m 17 дней назад

    im gonna start using this idea of sligtly mixing something related in to the thing ur drilling into my bag work and shadow boxing as a go to thing to do. thanks

  • @kurylko8493
    @kurylko8493 Год назад

    I always have aim to try something in open sparing, even if I can smoke the dude I decide i will for example backdown couple times and try to check hook few times during rounds, next day I decide i have in mind 2-3 setups to the liver and I try to execute them not for all cost but i will try, sometimes i even tell them to watch out for it coz im gone try it, even then if they know i land it anyway few times.sometime my sparring partners even ask me whats going on coz i screwd up whole round trying something and then the next round thing clicks and they are like damn thats shit sneaky xD

  • @vanillacakez2586
    @vanillacakez2586 Год назад

    Tang Soo do, eh? I don't remember Chuck Norris sucking

  • @jacobstromburg5803
    @jacobstromburg5803 Год назад

    It all comes down to coaches trying to do too much and talk to much and instruct too much instead of knowing the fundamentals and ensuring the fighters keep the fundamentals.

  • @rabbitshady499
    @rabbitshady499 Год назад

    People who get into martial arts because they watch ufc or whatever, usually tend to try and identify their style before learning anything, so they stay in what they think is their comfort zone, and they never learn anything. If u have an ego when sparring, u won't improve, and am talking from my experience because a few years ago i was a complete beginner but i still considered myself better than the other beginners, which is partially true because i had a bag at home and i practiced on it 😂, i thought i was better and i kept sparring beginners and i out boxed all of them, then i started sparring better guys and i realized i wasn't shit, i was just a little bit better than noobs, that's where i began to improve.

  • @mattlawyer3245
    @mattlawyer3245 Год назад

    I think sparing should start on day one, but I also think that 99% of all sparing should be light contact.

  • @nicolaslugo9357
    @nicolaslugo9357 Год назад +1

    I was worried that i would have to come to the comments to defend my gym, but it turns out that this is what we already do! The class sizes are small (at least in the mornings) so it allows for us to focus more on things like live drilling. We did start sparring after about 2 months, but all of my classmates are chill and my coach is very adamant about making sure we go light.

  • @catstudent1
    @catstudent1 Год назад

    My boxing couch had me spar in the first month. But he only allowed us to use the jab. Then later on in training he added the straight. So he made it at my beginner pace

  • @9usuck0
    @9usuck0 Год назад

    Thank you Mike, those gyms are always hypocrites.

  • @warrioratthewall1969
    @warrioratthewall1969 Год назад

    Without live drilling...youre just dancing.

  • @steviek1980
    @steviek1980 Год назад

    It’s like progressive overloading, adding a little each time

  • @sovcast8760
    @sovcast8760 Год назад

    Couldn't agree more! I remember doing one step and three step "sparring", almost useless.

  • @altermellion6984
    @altermellion6984 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this video.
    Most of the savate club I've been training at, this is the usual way to train.
    There is a topic if the day, and it goes from work in isolation to sparring, with adding different unknown elements along the way, sparring being the highest level of unknown.
    It is very effective indeed.
    Thanks again guys!

  • @valmendez84
    @valmendez84 Год назад

    Good way to phrase it so I can sell it better to the people who bitch about doing exercises they need but dislike, or bitch when they look foolish, thanks 😊

  • @DavidSharpMSc
    @DavidSharpMSc Год назад

    The junior needs to practice learning and the senior needs to practice teaching.

  • @ashtar3876
    @ashtar3876 Год назад

    Lol one time the entire hour of class was live drilling, for example them doing combinations on you and trying to find a time to clinch and knee. not as fun as i imagined lol but i did see that my offence sucks

  • @DaveJos
    @DaveJos Год назад

    My gym we do lite sparring and body work sparring for beginners

  • @Errzman
    @Errzman Год назад +1

    God damn it Mike! If you keep making these kinds of videos, I'm not going to be able to train anywhere! 😩
    Seriously though, thank you so much for sharing your perspective with the world like this. Been really helping me improve my training.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад

      Lol don't be too hard on your coaches.

  • @timm285
    @timm285 Год назад

    Great video but I think you should let Gabriel talk more next time.

  • @SoutheyHedda-h3s
    @SoutheyHedda-h3s 27 дней назад

    Brown Donna Lewis Lisa Lopez Cynthia

  • @jasonwang7028
    @jasonwang7028 9 месяцев назад

    A lot of fencing coaches use live drill to teach stuff funnily enough.

  • @jeffreydani8616
    @jeffreydani8616 7 месяцев назад

    Motion causes motion. It all starts with either you or the opponent.

  • @baldieman64
    @baldieman64 Год назад +1

    Same with all those Aikido and Hapkido techniques.
    People learn the basic form, then they might make it more flowery and fancy, but they almost never do the work to make it functional.
    That means training it in sparring, recognising the reference points where a technique is available, making the entry, applying kasushi to disrupt his pattern of movement to create a moment and then applying the technique.
    Oh and then there are all the options for when he stuffs the technique, which will happen more often than not.

    • @AmarzzAelin
      @AmarzzAelin Год назад

      I practice in a system of nihon jujutsu and, even if we do different ways of randori and kumite (just sometimes this last one), I find very interesting this idea of a middle point between the kata and the different kinds of randori/sparring. The idea of to give, for example, opportunities to your mate for execute waki gatame, or o soto gari, but with another attacks from uke involved, and a medium and controlled level of resistance. I think this idea is 100% applicable to lots of martial arts.

  • @Human-dr7kr
    @Human-dr7kr Год назад

    This is exactly how I practice in tekken 7 so I don’t know why I didn’t think to do it irl lol.

  • @joelmcdaniel2343
    @joelmcdaniel2343 Год назад

    Iam in Statesville NC were y'all located?

  • @markzuckerberg3128
    @markzuckerberg3128 Год назад

    So for grappling, I guess do more positional sparring.

  • @alexd4066
    @alexd4066 Год назад

    Best fighting RUclips channel

  • @jestfullgremblim8002
    @jestfullgremblim8002 Год назад

    Yeah, this is very true.
    That's exactly how i teach

  • @oxitocin7718
    @oxitocin7718 Год назад

    that would be my goddamn coach
    shit gotta change gyms again

  • @mra2424
    @mra2424 Год назад +4

    Muscle memory by drilling then being able to apply that in sparring/fighting

  • @hvyduty1220
    @hvyduty1220 Год назад

    We always raised the speed and hardness of strikes.

  • @SynergyGamingTV
    @SynergyGamingTV Год назад

    I'm so close to booking a flight from Calgary, Alberta to come and train!! Would be awesome to get in there and meet all these fighters from various styles; and champion fighters! SO AWESOME!!

  • @Jenjak
    @Jenjak Год назад

    "invest in loss" is one of the best lesson I got from taichi Chuan.
    Before you succeed you must accept to suck and take the risk to fail while trying to do things properly.

  • @andy101971
    @andy101971 Год назад

    Great advice thank you.

  • @alexdow8042
    @alexdow8042 Год назад

    Great drill, top coaching

  • @SimonSays314
    @SimonSays314 Год назад

    So right about the live drilling

  • @cruxcoregaming1831
    @cruxcoregaming1831 Год назад

    In psychology, we know of that phenomenon of what happens in training and what happens in love as Social Facilitation. However social facilitation states that when you’re practicing alone versus performing in front of people, the feeling of being evaluated makes people perform well with well practiced things we are good at (a familiar action) and perform bad with not well practiced or complex actions.
    Soooooo in fighting, practice->sparring and sparring->fighting will both show different levels of the effect of social facilitation.

    • @cruxcoregaming1831
      @cruxcoregaming1831 Год назад

      And so practice helps with sparring, but you need to spar to put what you learned in practice into sparring. Same thing with live fights and sparring

  • @shelbyyoungfitness2716
    @shelbyyoungfitness2716 Год назад +4

    Love this method! We call it "the trigger". Usually a specific attack from the coach/partner to Trigger the counter attack or combo we've been working on. Gradually adding more and more variables. One of the biggest things I think newer students struggle with is understanding that you don't have to do the thing every single time, but learning to wait until you've found the right distance and angle to land successfully. Thanks again Mike and Gabriel for the awesome video!

  • @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
    @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168 Год назад

    This reminds me of the thought I had heard before that if you are drilling, it is the job of the person feeding the action to let their partner succeed 60-80% of the time. Otherwise your just wasting both of your time.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад

      That is a very good way to put it. With timing drills, very often the person _being countered_ has to make sure the timing is right... that is a hard thing for people to understand.

  • @mancoantoniogaming
    @mancoantoniogaming Год назад

    that Gray Maynard sure is wise

  • @ehukai2003
    @ehukai2003 Год назад

    Anyone who argues with you about this stuff is just being ridiculous. Epsecially when you consider the company you keep (all these fighters and trainers) and when you consider the fact that while you're AT LEAST a decent fighter, you're primarily a coach/trainer/gym owner. I appreciate your stuff and can appreciate when you have a difference of opinion because you back it up and allow for nuance in the end. So thank you.

  • @gabriele4635
    @gabriele4635 Год назад

    Hey, I have a question

  • @unrealkinoart
    @unrealkinoart Год назад +1

    Your explanation is clear but I think especially for novices first you have to do drill it so that you don't think about it and after you can implement other distracting punches and kicks

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад

      So... what we said in the video?

    • @unrealkinoart
      @unrealkinoart Год назад

      @@hard2hurt yes, I wrote the comment while watching the video. Don't punch me sorry😅

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад

      You're forgiven.

    • @unrealkinoart
      @unrealkinoart Год назад

      @@hard2hurt 🙏

  • @vishnuramesh350
    @vishnuramesh350 Год назад

    The elite martial artists on RUclips really share useful information. Thank you Mike, Gabe, Shane, Seth, Jeff, Steven Wonderboy, and many more that I'm unable to recall.

  • @jezah8142
    @jezah8142 Год назад

    Have you ever done an analysis of the Paul vunak method? Specifically the RAT system of self defence?

  • @esgrimaxativa5175
    @esgrimaxativa5175 Год назад

    THIS!!!! antagonistic drills are the way to grow specific skills quickly. Your particular example is semi antagonistic as one guy isn't trying to "win" his part rather than act kind of how a fencing coach would, by guiding the student and making it always a little more difficult to achieve a specific technique. Pure antagonistic drills are ones where each partner is trying to win with some specific technique which might or might not be the same for each one.

  • @crazygreek6341
    @crazygreek6341 Год назад

    That's some stuff I really appreciated with one of my BJJ coaches, he always said drill it first with no restistance, then 10% then 20% and so on, so you would get a feel first for a move, then you make it more difficult, and you do it often, so that you can hit it later in sparring. More people need to drill that way. I try to make it kinda the same with my partner in striking class, but some people are just meat head bonobos ngl, so it's way easier when an instructor tells you to go harder and really drill.
    Great video btw

  • @EnFyr
    @EnFyr Год назад

    It's chess not checkers.

  • @kahtanalobaidi1550
    @kahtanalobaidi1550 Год назад

    Hit the pads drill the takedowns and submissions and spar with a goal like takedown defense/ offense or jab or switch hitting. Ur coach should tell you the goal or you should tell ur partner the plan. Although I’ll admit my grappling offense is trash because I get punished hard on any attempt against brown belts and wrestlers.

  • @BogalaSawundiris
    @BogalaSawundiris Год назад

    If Coach Varga is the calm Zen Master archetype of fighter, then where does Icy Mike Fall into as a fighter archetype ????????????????????

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io Год назад

      Spastic Source of Wisdom.
      Like a skinnier white Buddha on Red Bull.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +1

      Monster... but yeah.

  • @LukeD91
    @LukeD91 Год назад

    We do this kind of thing in my karate class. We "drill" certain techniques in 'easy' sparring situations. Good content Mike 👌

  • @gordonshumway9765
    @gordonshumway9765 9 месяцев назад

    That’s one of your best videos. I will implement this method in our training. It sounds like the missing piece to close the gap between the training with a complying partner and sparring.

  • @vyderka
    @vyderka Год назад

    I've no idea who that dude with no hair and shiny skull is, but he's sure gonna make progress fast learning from such a beast like Gabriel :D

  • @matthewmillette9898
    @matthewmillette9898 2 месяца назад

    Varga power!!!

  • @bennyc409
    @bennyc409 Год назад

    Top video fellas!

  • @ThousandTimesNo
    @ThousandTimesNo Год назад

    This is why i train boxing... In sparrings we exactly try to do what we were practicing on compliant training, just with element of positioning and surprise.

  • @pangopod2969
    @pangopod2969 Год назад

    I was missing that, thx