Pull Guard During a Knife Attack? | Ultimate Self Defense Championship Season 2 Shank Tank Breakdown

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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  День назад +54

    Go check out the Stealth Pen Pro from Atomic Bear at www.theatomicbear.com/hard2hurt

    • @freddysinatra5667
      @freddysinatra5667 День назад

      I think they should do this experiment but with average ppl with some training in different combative... I would love to do this for the educational experience

    • @michaelm9710
      @michaelm9710 День назад

      Grapplers?

    • @Changeiscoming647
      @Changeiscoming647 День назад

      Where did they find you icy Mike ?
      Your just king of the kids lol
      And you ain’t a fighter
      You just run a channel where you give an opinion that you aren’t qualified to give😂

    • @FuryoTokkosho
      @FuryoTokkosho День назад

      @@Changeiscoming647 Ever seen the playlist of IcyMike on his Street Beefz saga?

    • @freddysinatra5667
      @freddysinatra5667 День назад

      @Changeiscoming647 I'm sure icy Mike will crush u in a fight ima og fan been watching him for years
      And alot of his og fans are great fighters are you if not stfu

  • @JordanTeachesJiujitsu
    @JordanTeachesJiujitsu День назад +1087

    I brought shoes, I just forgot them at the fighter airbnb 😅

    • @starmochi9692
      @starmochi9692 День назад +94

      I really didn't expect your tactic during the knife attack sequence. Really smart of you!
      I see loads of memes on Reddit about BJJ guys pulling guard or buttscooting in the face of a knife attack.
      But you ACTUALLY did that, and made it work. Madlad.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +440

      I suppose it's a realistic depiction of what BJJ guys defending themselves would be like though.

    • @saure22
      @saure22 День назад +11

      Doesn’t look pretty but it worked

    • @sugmasigma
      @sugmasigma День назад +16

      @@saure22 it didn’t work… he got killed 3 times

    • @sugmasigma
      @sugmasigma День назад +11

      @@starmochi9692 he died 3 times

  • @jeremyshelton2306
    @jeremyshelton2306 День назад +712

    The biggest takeaway from the USDC so far is that Okinawa is the birthplace of karate.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +181

      He said the thing!

    • @slyphknttdotdotdot637
      @slyphknttdotdotdot637 День назад

      And that the average Australian is not to be fucked with

    • @FuryoTokkosho
      @FuryoTokkosho День назад +9

      So you did not learn that the The Seishin Karate Gi is most comfortable to wear? Maybe we gonna learn in the following episodes

  • @RealRanton
    @RealRanton 23 часа назад +160

    Haha loving your reaction my dude ❤

    • @narc440
      @narc440 20 часов назад +4

      Love you ranton your owned that guy in the shank tank!

    • @OceanDrivez
      @OceanDrivez 13 часов назад

      love u bro

    • @mellonhead9568
      @mellonhead9568 11 часов назад +1

      Thank God they didnt let you edit the USD championship S2 🤣

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  5 часов назад +7

      Change that name to HANDSton

    • @danielteixeira309
      @danielteixeira309 3 часа назад

      Your not a real monk...
      More like drunken master.

  • @nolanfroese9164
    @nolanfroese9164 День назад +305

    The biggest problem with the show was NO ICY MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +116

      Agreed.

    • @EnMiHomeStudio
      @EnMiHomeStudio День назад +12

      ​@@hard2hurt Well, there was a cameo when they showed the atomic bear website. Something is something.

    • @KevinLeeVlog
      @KevinLeeVlog День назад +19

      @@hard2hurtseason 3?

    • @yournumberonepal
      @yournumberonepal День назад +12

      Somewhere out there are some zombies that are hiding in fear from Icy Mike!

    • @TheGPFilmMaker
      @TheGPFilmMaker День назад +4

      Next season they should have @hart2hurt come and do live commentary!

  • @MartialArtsJourney
    @MartialArtsJourney День назад +367

    "The cast was worse"... 😢 Also, flawless Atomic Bear integration in the video 😎 Kudos

    • @ReDuVernay
      @ReDuVernay День назад +74

      To be fair Rokas, you were ALSO part of the first cast, so this is kind of a compliment.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +111

      Told you I am the best at that stuff lol

    • @bensweeney5878
      @bensweeney5878 День назад +28

      To be fair I do think that the choice of fighters is a little bit unbalanced. You got absolute units like Jeff and Natan who CLEARLY have the edge, but the Aussie dude is REALLY showing some promise! I'm glad that Ranton is there (mostly because I've always wanted to see him in action!). However Icy Mike, you should return to the USDC dude! I ended up watching this series specifically because you and Ramsay Dewey were in it!

    • @nickcaffarel4129
      @nickcaffarel4129 День назад

      ​@bensweeney5878 the only good thing about this is that we get to see multiple perspectives in their approach to these situations. as a competition, you're dead right. as a way to study what works and what doesn't, and what WE might struggle with in these situations, it's very valuable.

    • @FuryoTokkosho
      @FuryoTokkosho День назад +7

      @@bensweeney5878 From Physical Stature this cast is more balanced than the last one which had a weigh bigger variety in size of any kind.

  • @mikaelm5367
    @mikaelm5367 День назад +216

    Gotta be honest, IcyMike getting hyped for Ranton's hits was making me grin from ear to ear almost as much as Natan turning into the Terminator.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +53

      It was so good!

    • @monkeyboy275bobo8
      @monkeyboy275bobo8 15 часов назад +14

      Natan in that barfight episode made me realise how fking dangerous a guy who really knows how to fight truly is. Once switched on he just obliterates the entire room within seconds. Apparently pissing off a ufc fighter is something to avoid.

  • @Str8jacket192
    @Str8jacket192 День назад +138

    You should colaborate with Craig and go kickbox some Australian wildlife.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +117

      I think he could probably make videos about mounting televisions and it would be entertaining.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis День назад +7

      The 'roos all register as 'boxers', but the first thing they do is a double-kick to the face. 😅

    • @FuryoTokkosho
      @FuryoTokkosho День назад +2

      yeah craig is now releasing videos on his aussie profile channel, but he seems to indecisive on what direction he should take

    • @cyberserk5614
      @cyberserk5614 14 часов назад +1

      My money is on the crocs and sharks.

    • @danielteixeira309
      @danielteixeira309 3 часа назад

      Yeah manly stuff not filming yourself with your friends doing weird childish "Challenges" some of them do it in their pijamas...
      Yeah mounting tvs and drinking beer manly pijama parties playing fighting not so much little bro

  • @sirbobulous
    @sirbobulous День назад +176

    I respect Jordan for committing to BJJ and trying to solve the problems through the lens of that style rather than falling back on his Muay Thai training. It adds more to the competition to really have the defined differences in people's styles and experimenting in approaches.
    Ranton is extremely valuable to the show I think because he's like a huge number of martial artists out there. People who have trained - potentially trained really hard - in their styles but never trained to fight. And having to convert that training into a practical situation essentially on the fly. And based on the showing here the answer is...swinging hooks at the head.

    • @shirokku3279
      @shirokku3279 День назад +24

      And landing them with devastating effect. Loved seeing Rant-On, after he was Rant-Off for the first few challenges (in his own words lol.)
      A lot of that Shaolin training would lend someone the athleticism and flexibility to have a leg-up when learning other martial arts, but on its own, I am curious what it would actually accomplish in the hands of someone with a mind for violence. We already saw Ranton throwing those hands like a champ, for instance. I wonder how much of that was just what he's naturally capable of, and how much of it was aided by his training.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis День назад +5

      You see that even with martial arts masters vs the Chinese gentleman putting them all to the test (for their own good). They just start swinging haymakers and hooks. Their styles are completely forgotten.

    • @lihchong2267
      @lihchong2267 День назад +5

      ​@@Naptosisthe training isn't forgotten. Kung fu is full of haymaker-like moves. They just make them look cool.

    • @cubefreak123
      @cubefreak123 День назад +6

      @@shirokku3279 I recall Ranton saying he had a "boxing coach" when talking about throwing those punches in the Shank Tank. So it wasn't even his Shaolin training that really helped him there, except possibly for his athleticism. He does seem really open about his style not being great in a fight.

    • @bryanbeattie2606
      @bryanbeattie2606 23 часа назад +2

      Nobody tried a 2 on 1 to the wrist of the knife hand…… they need to install a wrestler in the house

  • @CanadianWolverine
    @CanadianWolverine День назад +132

    That “never mind” when Icy Mike realized what he was saying

    • @michaeldique
      @michaeldique День назад +4

      Classic 😂

    • @B..B.
      @B..B. 21 час назад +1

      The good part is that for a good reader half a word explains all

  • @TheElbowMerchant
    @TheElbowMerchant День назад +87

    Ranton finding his ability to "flip the switch" is one of my favorite moments in USDC season 3 so far! I was cheering just like Icy Mike when that part happened.

    • @thecjwolfpack
      @thecjwolfpack 21 час назад +10

      I saw a comment that said something like "New mythical fighter unlocked: Flicked the Switch Ranton" and it was accurate.

    • @lurkinlittlesquares6691
      @lurkinlittlesquares6691 2 часа назад +1

      ​@@thecjwolfpackit was my comment! love seeing that happen in mma where certain conditions bring out a different side of the fighter, and as a long time fan of Ranton it was amazing to see him throw down

  • @sparrkii
    @sparrkii День назад +107

    I like that they have a "normal guy" in there this year. I would also like some of the attackers to be "normal guys" as well. Of course there are questions of safety and more, but I agree with Mike's take on the knife switching hands. I believe Icy Mike has a video on people focusing on their weapon when they have one. I believe it is highly likely that someone untrained in any form of combat wouldn't think to switch hands.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +45

      It happens about 100x more often in training then outside of training. It happens literally every round in training unless you instruct students not to... and sometimes they still do. In the wild it is extremely rare.

    • @heibk-2019
      @heibk-2019 День назад +26

      But i feel like if they go out of their way to bring a "normal guy" in they should actually bring a normal guy, Craig did martial arts before and literally had fights in prison. Thats not the average guy imo...

    • @theiowasian2676
      @theiowasian2676 День назад +17

      Also, Craig is Australian, basically the automatic equivalent of a jailhouse brawler in America

    • @Live4ThisFishing
      @Live4ThisFishing День назад +6

      @@hard2hurtthe fear of losing the death grip they have on the weapon probably overrides their willingness to attempt to switch hands. Or something like that. 🤷‍♂️

    • @R1NR4N
      @R1NR4N День назад +6

      @@heibk-2019Neither Craig or Rokas has said he had prior martial arts experience. Maybe in your social circle a guy like Craig isn’t considered normal, but working in the trades he is 100% typical. I literally apprenticed under a contractor that would bare knuckle brawl in empty barns when he was my age.
      Edit: My memory on the first statement wasn't fully accurate. My bad.

  • @josephshamosh9577
    @josephshamosh9577 День назад +100

    Mike pissed he didn't get that fighter house

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +87

      We slept on air mattresses in the gym!

    • @DH-fu7bx
      @DH-fu7bx День назад +11

      @@hard2hurt sleeping in the gym is for legends!!!

  • @goncaloalmeida7029
    @goncaloalmeida7029 День назад +59

    In Season 3 I want to see Icy Mike on the aggressors side of the shank tank

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +39

      No thanks... not now that people have figured out the truth lol.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify День назад +10

      @@hard2hurt What if season three has the competitors all out of "self-defense gurus" from youtube, showing off their "systems", giving you a huge opportunity to give a taste of "real life" to them?

    • @monkeyboy275bobo8
      @monkeyboy275bobo8 15 часов назад

      Considering the fact those guys are all twice his size i think thats easier said than done tbh.

    • @olivierlaborde7887
      @olivierlaborde7887 7 часов назад

      bring Steven Segal

    • @lancereece8384
      @lancereece8384 6 часов назад

      @@olivierlaborde7887He doesn’t care about the law. He’s, “Above the Law”

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp День назад +38

    As much as I like all the competitors I have to admit my money's on Craig to win this, he's got that bear in him and he knows when to use it and when to turn it off, I think that's going to go a long way in season 2.

    • @chestermosburger3113
      @chestermosburger3113 4 часа назад

      enoughofyourkoicarp- exactly- as Mike said- guys who do hard physical work every day and not as a sport or hobby are strong as hell, plus he is an Ozzy.

  • @seanvalentinus
    @seanvalentinus День назад +36

    Intro to USDC Season 2 got the same energy as my class in yr 2 saying *”Good-mor-ning-mis-ter-Sprad-brow”* to our teacher

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +9

      For real... where was the director?!

    • @ertiikus
      @ertiikus 15 часов назад +1

      They actually made them stand there and say that lmao

  • @mattwells1036
    @mattwells1036 День назад +35

    Yeah they seem to have some subjective aspects to some of these. Jesse literally hit this guy's chin and they said he won from striking the eyes, Jeff stabs their eyes with a pen, and actually hit the eyehole, and doesn't? Them doling out knockout punch wins seems entirely random and up to the guy running it. Oh and the "random beer drinking guy" isn't just random, he did a little BJJ, and "sporadically" trains at the guy running the championships facility. So we're not looking at an untrained guy either.

    • @bigbywolf5197
      @bigbywolf5197 День назад

      He technically is untrained since he even says that he slacks off

    • @johnluujl
      @johnluujl День назад +6

      He also had his first boxing fight coming up right after USDC and multiple people mentioned he is a former "prison bare knuckle boxing champion"

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 23 часа назад +5

      I think they definitely oversell the "NORMAL" which you could debate whether or not thats ok, but he also definitely isnt like the most consistently trained member

    • @FirstnameLastname-le9hq
      @FirstnameLastname-le9hq 14 часов назад +1

      ​@@bigbywolf5197 That...that isn't how knowledge works. When you learn something, unless you don't even think about it for years, you will always have a pretty good idea of the broad picture.

    • @buttnuttz6119
      @buttnuttz6119 11 часов назад

      @@FirstnameLastname-le9hqmy thoughts exactly lol

  • @yoshipinviset9922
    @yoshipinviset9922 День назад +60

    mike’s return season 3 💯💯

  • @claytonshackleford5088
    @claytonshackleford5088 День назад +21

    They can’t just let mike be the blatant best manliest man fighter man every season… Give that Shaolin monk guy a shot..😂

  • @xaitheng
    @xaitheng День назад +18

    Cheering for Ranton. I'm all about the underdogs and the nice guys.

  • @Starburst7641
    @Starburst7641 День назад +29

    Ranton - that`s my boy!

  • @saure22
    @saure22 День назад +44

    Natan is a scary guy man.

    • @shirokku3279
      @shirokku3279 День назад +7

      In this context, for sure. He seems nice enough in general. He can really turn it on for these challenges, though. The 2nd episode with the bar fight simulations showed his skills beautifully. Everyone coming close enough to strike caught a fist to the face (helmet) the moment they entered striking range and immediately become less motivated to keep going. The same attitude that Mike is talking about for these knife fights - turning the attack back on them. Scary indeed.

    • @saure22
      @saure22 День назад

      @@shirokku3279 yeah, that’s a huge difference between him and even Jeff, who is also a pro but Jeff hyped himself up a little too much in there bar episode and went straight for the fight before trying to calm it. I saw something say he was idf but can’t confirm, him being an 8-2 pro would definitely have them a little worried and then he threw down lol

    • @lihchong2267
      @lihchong2267 День назад +2

      ​@@saure22natan was born in france. Probably a dual french-israeli citizen. Not sure if that would exempt him from the draft but i can't find anything that suggested he was in the idf. He certainly acts like i would expect an idf soldier to.

    • @saure22
      @saure22 День назад

      @@lihchong2267 I also tried to find out more but all I saw is that he moved to Isreal as a toddler. Can’t remember where I saw it tho.

    • @saure22
      @saure22 День назад

      @@lihchong2267 Yeah I couldn’t find anything about it either, just saw a comment saying that, maybe true or not but all I could find out was an mma instructor before becoming pro. It’s something someone said online so we’ll never know unless he speaks about it.

  • @rickgraham7641
    @rickgraham7641 День назад +30

    I predict the most controversial thing from season 2 will be Craig's level of training/experience.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +21

      It's definitely up for discussion.

    • @sirbobulous
      @sirbobulous День назад +4

      I suspect if he was just some random guy with no training or experience then he'd not really be in the social circle to get pulled into the USDC. And if he were then he'd lack the confidence to take time of work to take part.

    • @aliberkozderya3112
      @aliberkozderya3112 День назад +25

      ​@@sirbobulous They have explicitly acknowledged that Craig does have a considerable amount of training. He is nicknamed ''regular guy'' because he represents someone who does martial arts as a hobby, not as a job. Compare to pro mma fighters and kung-fu monks, he is pretty regular.

    • @shirokku3279
      @shirokku3279 День назад +7

      @@aliberkozderya3112 Thanks, this is I feel not made clear enough, but he does indeed have some training. It's mentioned that he has a job and life outside of martial arts, with only some training. And most of what he's capable of (in terms of martial arts) looks like what you'd find in any dabbler. There's a decent percentage of people like that. Martial Arts are a common enough way that some people get some exercise, even if they don't do anything with those skills beyond the immediate value that training gives them as exercise.
      That was me as a teen, for instance. Never took it anywhere, just used kickboxing training as a way to maintain fitness. It had the added benefit of desensitizing my shins a little, so I don't completely wipe out when I bump them against the coffee table. :D

    • @aliberkozderya3112
      @aliberkozderya3112 День назад +1

      @@shirokku3279 hahah :D is there a way to get that conditioning for my little toes?

  • @GrantREllis
    @GrantREllis День назад +19

    All I know is when it comes to ZOMBIE defense your performance will NEVER be topped.

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative День назад +15

    Rokas should have got Mike to do commentary! LOL

  • @JaimeAGB-pt4xl
    @JaimeAGB-pt4xl День назад +9

    I love how the S1 members reacting to S2 seem salty 😂😂😂....
    I do miss Mike and I hope there is a Redemption Season 💪🏻👍🏻

  • @OneNvrKnoz
    @OneNvrKnoz День назад +9

    Natan is frightening! His skills are undeniably crisp and clean, and he’s strong and huge. When he “flips the switch” bodies really do hit the floor

  • @toomanydogs1527
    @toomanydogs1527 День назад +9

    Problem is that dudes who train get a sense of false confidence, mainly because they eventually have the ability to start toying with less experienced people. Problem is that mostly, you train to fight in a certain way, against someone who is also fighting in a similar fashion. That leads to the exact same results as a boxing match between a boxer and a grappler, and a grappling match between a grappler and a boxer. If you are unable to anticipate how a potentially lethal attack is going to be executed, you won't win.
    People need to train a bit out of the box more. Games like grappling for control over a knife, or boxing a dude trying to hit you with a pool noodle or something. Keep it real fellas.

    • @strwman5
      @strwman5 19 часов назад

      If compared to street situations I think even style versus style is not realistic. Good chance whoever you encounter (that has bad intentions) both of you will be clueless how the other is prepared. When you see videos ":Kung Fu vs Judo, etc" both sides knew what the other was trained in and had some idea of what was going to happen.

  • @ipawilzon
    @ipawilzon День назад +36

    bjj black belt: "i'll reveal my plan later..."
    as he lays on his side prepping to work off his back... in his head: "no one is going see this coming. haha!"
    in reality... everyone knew what was coming...

  • @fonzievarata607
    @fonzievarata607 День назад +7

    You guys were clearly the trial run. Been watch Seth's reaction vids too, and his reaction to thr fighter house did not disappoint. 😂😂😂

  • @DovOW
    @DovOW День назад +12

    alright mike time to oil up in your first challenge

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +7

      That's not a bad plan.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis День назад

      @@hard2hurt The olive oil bottle makes a decent improvised 'bonker/poker' too, once the attacker sees you're done lathering up, and attacks. 😅

    • @badart3204
      @badart3204 День назад

      @@Naptosisever seen cops try to catch those guys? It’s low key legit if you somehow were in a scenario that allowed you to oil up

  • @sullyb23511
    @sullyb23511 День назад +8

    If you haven't figured it out, people, if Mike roasts you then he'll eventually become your best friend. Rokas and Jesse are prime examples of this. Watch Mike and Ranton collaborate soon, even though there is no reason for it seeing as Ranton is mostly a gaming RUclipsr.

    • @apc9714
      @apc9714 10 часов назад

      He is such a good friend with sensei Seth that it keeps roasting him all the time

  • @newtypehuman
    @newtypehuman День назад +10

    No one wins against a knife sparring like this simply because your not allowed to k.o him and punch him full force . But he is allowed to stab you. Not simulate pain from being hit inThe face . But if he stabs you your sposed to be ( i am dead ) its like Fighting a Boss with infinite hp .

    • @juanmejiagomez5514
      @juanmejiagomez5514 День назад +5

      Except Natan who literally ko’d a guy

    • @newtypehuman
      @newtypehuman День назад +1

      @@juanmejiagomez5514 in the gym your thinking of your sparring partner safety .

    • @Sensei_Frog
      @Sensei_Frog День назад +2

      I also feel like a lot of the time they don’t use enough force with the knife, like they’re getting like 11 stabs in a second but they wouldn’t do much damage

  • @szymszyn6714
    @szymszyn6714 День назад +6

    I don't know if that's 100% sure but Rokas said on his stream that Craig is not the 100% regular guy because he had some bare knuckle fights in prison. That's even more fun watching him rn haha

  • @andrewf6111
    @andrewf6111 День назад +6

    Also yes i think they did jeff chan dirty with that pen strike and also the headkick he graciously pulled.

  • @G-Lenno
    @G-Lenno День назад +11

    Did they ever teach you to "pull guard" during a knife attack as a patrol officer/SWAT Icy Mike? I'm curious if MP curriculum is similar to the civilian curriculum in that regard.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +14

      It was the first thing I thought... but then I dismissed it as too ridiculous.

    • @G-Lenno
      @G-Lenno День назад +2

      I remember the first time I saw it taught to me at the MP school I thought the same thing ​@@hard2hurt until I tested it like in USDC. Thanks for the response, always a pleasure to watch and learn from your videos sir.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify День назад +1

      @@G-Lenno I'm not speaking on defence of pulling guard or any specific technique or mindset, so don't take this the wrong way.
      MP and officers/SWAT etc have very different goals than civilians in basically every situation, and that alone already presents a HUGE gap in possible curriculums. I've got no envy to their position, and am thankful for the role they take, for sure.
      btw, this is based on my very limited personal experience, which comprises of taking part in a few "ride-along"/COP as a volunteering civilian (an experience I absolutely recommend)

    • @Devin-GemCap
      @Devin-GemCap День назад +2

      @@hard2hurt It's funny I have very little experience with martial arts and when I watched season one I thought just dropping to your back would work but I second-guessed myself because no one actually did it, later when Ramsey Dewy did his review on season1 he said he thought later about what would happen if someone just pulled guard.

    • @gel.blaster.j7943
      @gel.blaster.j7943 День назад

      ​@hard2hurt what about going to the ground to draw your weapon. Like Doug Marcaida vs instructor Zero

  • @lawrenceprunty6132
    @lawrenceprunty6132 День назад +5

    That's what I had to say about it, that Jeff should have gotten that point with the atomic bear pen. It is what it is though, and Rokas addressed it nicely.

  • @tuerkefechi
    @tuerkefechi День назад +4

    You had the Zombie-Apocalypse, come on 😂👍🏼😄 and to be fair: he did not pull Guard, he layed down and upkicked. And the Shaolin who never punched someone, he had two in Punch knockout rounds 😂 many surprises, my favorite is the regular Joe 😂

  • @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop
    @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop День назад +8

    Craig is such a legend. I want him to win so bad.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +6

      I have a feeling a lot of people feel this way.

    • @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop
      @KatoCoyoteCombatWorkshop День назад +2

      There are a lot of people who say they'll fight anytime, anywhere, but very few who will sign up for this with a week's notice and with a competitor pedigree like UFC and ONE fighters. My man is the Dan Ige of the USDC.

  • @TinyTitian
    @TinyTitian 23 часа назад +4

    Accidentally almost giving viking blood eagle tutorials on RUclips is crazy.

  • @tjm9565
    @tjm9565 День назад +5

    My friend's brother inlaw survived a knife attack doing EXACTLY what the JJ guy did (lie on his back). He fell on his back and used his legs way less professionally - 100% untrained. He ended up in hospital from the cuts and stabs, but survived.

    • @101289teutonicguy
      @101289teutonicguy День назад

      1 observation is not a method. It "worked" twice on the show too. Knife survability has more to do with how long it takes to get to the hospital than how well you fight in a lot of cases.

    • @tjm9565
      @tjm9565 23 часа назад

      @@101289teutonicguy It worked twice on the show and at least once in real-life...AND as a Piper Knife System instructor, I'd agree with you.

  • @jasonpoilovs4903
    @jasonpoilovs4903 День назад +6

    My biggest takeaway is how tough the “regular Joe” is. That Aussie guy is no joke!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +11

      Those quotation marks are important.

    • @subratadhar7698
      @subratadhar7698 День назад +3

      @@hard2hurt he is certainly not a regular dude. He understands distance and angles well.

    • @colorfulbleeding
      @colorfulbleeding День назад +4

      he is friend with the production crew and is one of their self deense trainer for kids.

  • @popovski4385
    @popovski4385 День назад +3

    For anyone that doesn't know, the Kung Fu guy (ranton) is seriously the funniest video game reviewer on the platform. 100% recommend anyone check him out

  • @Gustavo_Nagel
    @Gustavo_Nagel День назад +3

    Jiujiteiros is how we brazilians call the Jiujitsu praticioneers, and is actually right.

  • @angeld5780
    @angeld5780 День назад +4

    If You can't pull guard without shoes against a knife attack then You can't fight

    • @takubutung1717
      @takubutung1717 23 часа назад

      They are forgetting.. knife can be thrown too..and dodging that while laying down, not possible

  • @jakefairley6993
    @jakefairley6993 День назад +12

    Pulling guard is so dumb, it'll protect your organs... sure, but once your legs are sliced up you are left immobilized and bleeding to death

    • @sirbobulous
      @sirbobulous День назад +5

      In the context of preventing a life ending injury within 20 seconds it worked fine, the logic is sound enough - keeping his vitals further away and putting non-vital blocks between him and the knife.
      But he got slashed up badly every time and without a 20 second timer he'd just die a couple seconds later than if he hadn't pulled guard.

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis День назад

      And it presents a perfect opportunity to jab at the femorals IRL.

    • @Goiaba308
      @Goiaba308 День назад

      It's dumb imo. Prevents from running and having escape routes and if the guy target your legs he is still winning

    • @putinski666
      @putinski666 19 часов назад

      Going batshit aggressive and striking fear is probably the best answer to knife defense. The running away part seems iffy, not everyone's gonna outrun a motivated killer and it leaves your lungs and spine vulnerable.

    • @jakefairley6993
      @jakefairley6993 18 часов назад

      @@putinski666 100%, Craig and Ranton said it best "you're gonna get stabbed regardless"

  • @17grrls23
    @17grrls23 День назад +3

    1. watch USDC.
    2. watch Sensei Seth’s reaction.
    3. watch Icy Mike’s reaction.
    this is what i call good evening.

    • @prgnify
      @prgnify День назад +1

      I also recommend Ranton's watchalong with Rokas.

  • @llengsuch3426
    @llengsuch3426 День назад +2

    Ha-ha-ha! Great commentary. I'm rooting for Jeff because he seems to be getting shafted by the judges IMHO. Plus I hate underdogs. Joking - they all seem likeable chaps.

  • @kaischreurs2488
    @kaischreurs2488 День назад +2

    6:37 I'd imagine it also depends on what you're wearing, if you're in shorts your legs are gonna get cut to ribbons, if you're wearing more resiliant pants (like leather biker pants or something) they can still get through them if they try obviously but that should still lower the likelyhood of them hitting the most important parts.

  • @t0ss
    @t0ss День назад +4

    The knife scoring can be improved a ton still, but it’s just such a hard thing to simulate right now. A few major points you might cover…
    What will disable a random stranger with a knife can vary between strangers. The liver kick is a great example, but how many times would the knife attackers have broken noses etc?
    How many of these slashes and stabs disabled major tendons and muscles and our fighters wouldn’t have made it 10 more seconds?
    Pulling guard really highlights this IMHO. Jordan got a slice across the back of his hamstring that would have stop his guard multiple times.
    Knives constantly get stuck in bone or other issues that fuck up weapon retention, the hand swaps and grips the Western Combative folks do would be much harder if this was wet.
    I think a paradox of the shank tank is that the only way to truly stop a knife attack, with or WITHOUT a blade, is max damage as efficiently as possible. The knife folks have a handicap in their favor every time IMO
    I have a Sayoc seminar this weekend, maybe I’ll change my opinion. But I think the shank tank is maybe 70% accurate

    • @t0ss
      @t0ss День назад +2

      Side note as a bjj lover, leave it to the BJJ guy to exploit the rules and stall

    • @t0ss
      @t0ss День назад +2

      Final in my pointless string, they need to get better at pointing or retroactively adjusting when they change rules. The bar fight challenge had a moment I was a bit annoyed by.
      1 person was accused of excessive force for some aggro but another didn’t get that docked from them after literally pen murdering.
      I get that the pen is a free point, but in this context in particular it felt cheap

    • @lusitancenturion
      @lusitancenturion День назад +2

      ​@@t0ssyeah, that part of the pen striking vital organs in a bar altercation being seen as a good thing kinda lost me. Only explanation was that the pen was a sponsor of the event (and of this video as well btw)

  • @KodiakCombat
    @KodiakCombat День назад +2

    Mike, thanks for being part of the OG group. You did great and this one is better because of what you brought as an OG.

  • @zeroblade6599
    @zeroblade6599 День назад +2

    Pulling guard is probably way more effective wearing stilletto heels

  • @TheLuconic
    @TheLuconic День назад +2

    Well to me, they learned a lot of what they did wrong with season one and made improvements for future competitors. So yea, I would be angry too, but I’d say you and the rest of season one made huge strides that made the people see what they were doing wrong. And made it better and safer even for more fighters to want to come back for more.

  • @bolieve603
    @bolieve603 День назад +2

    If the good guy had a gun Jordan would have been the only one who could have gotten a draw off. That's how that technique is usually taught, not unarmed vs armed.

  • @mrslaughter4448
    @mrslaughter4448 День назад +2

    Lol I love your reaction of it all!
    Analyzing what works in a knife attack you explained well

  • @inigofreed4373
    @inigofreed4373 День назад +2

    didn't the beer drinking regular guy work as a bouncer at one point? maybe I'm wrong.

  • @MartialArtUK
    @MartialArtUK День назад +2

    We been doing this since the 2000s, really surprised these guys with their grades and fame are new too this . And the tactical pen? Steel pen is fine as taught by uk special forces. Actually any pen is fine no one likes being stabbed in the neck with a bic. Breaking a knee first kick works getting your Achilles cut is dumb people don't recover from that.

  • @slingshotmcoy
    @slingshotmcoy День назад +2

    They will stab you.
    The goal is to make them think twice before stabbing you again.

  • @Topkoality69
    @Topkoality69 День назад +2

    Whooaaaa put some respect on Jordan’s name he’s insane at jiu jitsu even has some MMA fights he’s no slouch

  • @AWolfism
    @AWolfism День назад +4

    Would love to see your reaction to the bar fights.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +14

      They were awesome. React over lol.

    • @lancereece8384
      @lancereece8384 5 часов назад

      @@hard2hurt
      You aren’t going to react to each episode? I went and looked on your platform and this is the only one. Your breakdowns are entertaining and meaningful. When some of the others react they may have something poignant to say, but you are a goldmine. I enjoyed your feedback on this Mike.

  • @dvg36
    @dvg36 День назад +2

    Natan's back kick to shut his attacker down was bad ass

  • @matthewk320
    @matthewk320 День назад +2

    they did jeff wrong. he made 4 points there

  • @TheAtomicBear
    @TheAtomicBear Час назад +1

    Amazing video Mike like always! I have to agree with you about Jeff Chan's hit to the mask. A badly scratched eye would definitely give you time to destroy the attacker.

  • @Aro2001
    @Aro2001 День назад +2

    The moment the Icy Mike spotted Jeff utilizing the pen, he felt Jeff should've gotten points from it. As did a large portion of the commenters. Then when he saw Jesse Enkamp get points from the eye strike. Yup. The commenters agreed though they seemed a bit more heated about it. I completely missed the part about Ranton saying the pulling guard was content. He's not wrong but he didn't have say it.
    🤣

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  День назад +2

      He put a little crack in the fourth wall with that one.

  • @amcconnell6730
    @amcconnell6730 День назад +2

    Craig-jitsu for the win. :D When just being Australian is considered a martial art.

  • @Cysubtor_8vb
    @Cysubtor_8vb День назад +2

    There was actually a 20ft rule study done with defense experts that had the logic that dropping to the ground is beneficial against a charging knifemen... when you have a gun.
    In their scenario, the quick elevation change is to give you time and space to pull and fire as the assailant suddenly have to adjust to having to get past your legs and strike downwards. Not the biggest window of opportunity, but possibly just enough of a delay to successfully pull before getting stabbed.

    • @kdb678able
      @kdb678able 20 часов назад

      Maybe Season 3 will be sponsored by Glock and we'll see how it plays out!

  • @JeffreyOller
    @JeffreyOller 7 часов назад +1

    If I'm wearing work boots and canvas work pants, I would absolutely pull guard against a knife. No way you're cutting through canvas pants, and if you're gonna get stabbed, better in the legs. Only issue is if the attacker has friends. You have to have the situational awareness to decide which is more dangerous, getting kicked by a friend of your attacker, or the knife in front of you.

  • @thetropicalraven4426
    @thetropicalraven4426 День назад +2

    "who's attacking who"
    Natan is a beast

  • @WyteChinpira
    @WyteChinpira День назад +3

    Mike I honestly think the best self defence against a knife attack is being a good boxer, and going tippy tappy, Once they are knocked out its OVER, instead of grappling you have to fight for the knife as you get stabbed...

    • @takubutung1717
      @takubutung1717 23 часа назад

      Yeah. I can see that. but if the attacker is trained, it's hard to say

    • @WyteChinpira
      @WyteChinpira 22 часа назад +1

      @@takubutung1717 Most trained fighters are not gonna pull out a knife in a street fight.

    • @strwman5
      @strwman5 19 часов назад

      Speaking of which, anyone know of footage of a spontaneous fight breaking out between two trained dudes (or women)? Everything I find is untrained vs trained or untrained vs untrained. Only time I seen trained vs trained go after it it was a "challenge match" type situation.

    • @sharpshooter9407
      @sharpshooter9407 4 часа назад

      Except most knife attacks, the attacker only presents the knife when they are in stabbing/grappling range. So being in boxing range isnt always a viable option

  • @TheReaperOfChess
    @TheReaperOfChess 22 часа назад +1

    Jeff chan got a good head kick too... but pulled it
    .. he should jave scored there AND the face stab... they need to do a recount dude

  • @mbazzanella6400
    @mbazzanella6400 12 часов назад +1

    This new Season of USDC is incredible, but one of my favorite moments from Season 1 was Icy Mike kicking the knife out of a guy's hand- that was badass as fuck

  • @AlvaroArredondo-ir6iv
    @AlvaroArredondo-ir6iv 17 часов назад +1

    Thanks for this post, Mike! 7:23 I can see how pulling guard could work since it was demonstrated here. I also thought of, “what if you fell for some reason?” Which can happen in a knife attack, right? Being barefoot could also happen if it was a burglar wielding a knife who broke into your home, or if you were at the beach (like Venice, CA) and some crackhead comes at you with something sharp and you fall. All hypothetical but the USDC is a great way to see potential ways of self-defense.

  • @SweetSpotGuitar
    @SweetSpotGuitar 23 часа назад +1

    ....oh, and the Jiu Jitsu guy too... Savage, bro. And hilarious. Coming from a guy who does Jiu Jitsu (but did Tae Kwon Do at a McDojo awhile back, too).

  • @FacteriaPhage
    @FacteriaPhage 21 час назад +1

    I think something to pay attention to in the pulling guard scenario is the red paint. In this scenario, pulling guarding worked because it's a game. There was red paint behind his knee and across the backs of both thighs. The thighs could have cut the hamstrings. The one might the knee would have absolutely cut the ligaments there. So, within a few seconds, his legs would have been next to nonfunctional. He would have been on his back, bleeding out, and unable to move his legs effectively.
    But for this game, it was a great strategy. There's nothing wrong with operating within the parameters of the game. So kudos to that. Game vs reality, very different outcome (obviously)

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 17 часов назад +1

    Up kicks plus putting your head and chest as far away as possible is...understandable. Just saying.

  • @mmurmurjohnson2368
    @mmurmurjohnson2368 22 часа назад +1

    I'll say it again, scrambling on your back for either your knife or your opponent's is exactly the context where Ju Jitsu was created from

  • @junkjouster
    @junkjouster День назад +1

    Its crazy how Ju Jitsu has turned a corner and now people are questioning and openly disliking it in these ways. Strange how ideas change and morph over time growth is confusing.

  • @rodagoose
    @rodagoose 21 час назад +1

    That was some A+ commentary. I enjoyed this as much as watching the actual USDC episode.

  • @ehellsword2
    @ehellsword2 День назад +1

    Damn. every original actor is salty. Ramsey I get but damn lol.
    Not unjustified but that's just funny.

  • @NomdePlume337
    @NomdePlume337 День назад +1

    I think it was in a community post but Rokas did acknowledge that Jeff’s pen stab to the eye should’ve been a fight stopper

  • @MrSphandor
    @MrSphandor День назад +1

    Normal dude is a badass I'm not picking any bar fights in Australia. Natans kick though that was special.

  • @bruhmoment-yt2zp
    @bruhmoment-yt2zp День назад +1

    I need you and ranton to collab youre both personifications of the devil and angel on my shoulder. Sorry mike youre not the angel either 😂

  • @TT-mb6rz
    @TT-mb6rz 13 часов назад +1

    Legs have the biggest artery, if you go to ground and offer legs to a knife I think is not a smart move

  • @TheStacheIsEvil
    @TheStacheIsEvil День назад +1

    "oh and there's a jiujitsu guy too"
    this killed me 😂
    apparently the jiujitsu guy is also a muay thai guy

  • @bigheadrhino
    @bigheadrhino День назад +1

    Jeff’s first two rounds could have scored for him. Pen to eye and the left high kick to temple.

  • @ddstanfield9259
    @ddstanfield9259 20 часов назад +1

    The pulling guard is how the Missouri dept of corrections teaches knife defense

  • @Valchrist1313
    @Valchrist1313 День назад +1

    To be fair, even a femoral artery slash isn't absolutely worse than any other wound standing, like a chest puncture.
    At least a femoral artery bleed is something you can theoretically stem yourself if you carried a tourniquet.
    A defense like that would only be better in confined places like a hallway or between two cars.

  • @killzinshadows3767
    @killzinshadows3767 День назад +1

    I wish you would have showed more Ranton's match. He killed it.

  • @danielteixeira309
    @danielteixeira309 День назад +6

    Pulling guard surviving for longer but femoral artery exists

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 23 часа назад +1

    Ranton is such a laid-back guy that seeing him lock in like that was a surprise

  • @katalystkravmaga
    @katalystkravmaga День назад +1

    Interesting to see this. My Krav Maga instructor advocates for falling to the ground and doing exactly this as a last ditch resort. Distance between you and the blade even for a moment can save your life.

  • @mykolatheprogramer
    @mykolatheprogramer День назад +1

    Natan is true warrior. I hope he’ll win. But Craig is cool dude too 😁

  • @EnricoMello-d7m
    @EnricoMello-d7m День назад +1

    Immediately liked the video on the Jeff Chan fun fact 😂 wth

  • @wojciechsawicki4733
    @wojciechsawicki4733 День назад +1

    why are you hating on Jordan so hard? Or is that just layered sarcasm

  • @ThePhillyDz
    @ThePhillyDz День назад +1

    "No way. THIS is content"
    Wise words

  • @Ron_Shavit
    @Ron_Shavit 8 часов назад +1

    Great Breakdown, Thank you!

  • @binnieb173
    @binnieb173 22 часа назад +1

    This is my favorite nerd community.

  • @LittleIAO
    @LittleIAO День назад +1

    Did you review episodes 1 & 2? If you did I didn't see! Would be fun!

  • @emobuddha
    @emobuddha 22 часа назад +1

    Been training BJJ for 10 years and never would’ve thought to pull guard and saw him do it and my mind was blown

    • @lancereece8384
      @lancereece8384 4 часа назад

      Interesting comment. Thanks for sharing. What do you think of the results?

  • @jimpavlidis5915
    @jimpavlidis5915 День назад +1

    I'm all for the bjj slander 😂