When Should You Fight Back During a Robbery?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  Год назад +52

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    • @studytime3461
      @studytime3461 Год назад

      Dude's knifeyboy kung fu antics in the background during the promotional segment were the best thing I've ever seen on your channel... he deserves a watch!

    • @de0509
      @de0509 Год назад

      But you lose the ability to do the "fake-look-at-phone" move when you have a watch

    • @Robin_Is
      @Robin_Is Год назад

      Ok.

    • @pedrdi5608
      @pedrdi5608 Год назад

      Is the level of getting hurt still the same? I could see somebody that comply getting smacked around a bit while in the other 2 situations, especially shooting someone, the injuries escalating.
      If think it's a nice info to have if somebody can get it, what is the "getting hurt" in the statistics used? The % of light, serious, fatal injury or something along those lines could make us even better informed.

    • @mr.guacaswole3033
      @mr.guacaswole3033 Год назад

      Hey mike, you should ask Larry Lawton. He's an ex-professional thief. He's robbed a bunch of people and he has a RUclips channel.

  • @knightandlord
    @knightandlord Год назад +590

    One big takeaway from the interview with Craig: if you choose to fight back, fight a 100%. If you choose to comply, do so a 100%. Going halfway might get you hurt.

    • @ananda_miaoyin
      @ananda_miaoyin Год назад +32

      This is it. All or nothing.

    • @chronischermasturbationssc1027
      @chronischermasturbationssc1027 Год назад +4

      ​@@ananda_miaoyin no more half measurs

    • @ArifRWinandar
      @ArifRWinandar Год назад +33

      Well technically choosing any action might get you hurt anyway, but going halfway gets you hurt even more.

    • @VlogCandyMinus
      @VlogCandyMinus Год назад +13

      To sum it up. COMMIT!

    • @wawawuu1514
      @wawawuu1514 Год назад +4

      Can you meet me half-way? Right at the borderline
      That's where I'm gonna wait, for you

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 Год назад +516

    I can still hear Jeff Chan super upset that everyone else just handed over money. Haha.

    • @KittSpiken
      @KittSpiken Год назад +47

      And then we didn't get to hear his response to Mike kicking it out of his hand!

    • @seetsamolapo5600
      @seetsamolapo5600 Год назад +6

      Jeff probably gave the money. He looks sane 😂

    • @KittSpiken
      @KittSpiken Год назад +11

      @@seetsamolapo5600 watch

    • @dominickcantu9986
      @dominickcantu9986 Год назад +10

      ​@@seetsamolapo5600 nah bro squared up. It was glorious

    • @JulianSloman
      @JulianSloman Год назад +1

      Not everyone did - some got stabbed

  • @mrblaque215
    @mrblaque215 Год назад +273

    My grandfather had pretty good advice for my dad that he passed to me. “If someone pulls a weapon and demands your stuff, pull your wallet out, throw it behind them, and run the opposite way. If they really want your shit, they’ll go after that instead of you.” And it worked for me two times when I was a teenager.

    • @ignacioorozco9919
      @ignacioorozco9919 Год назад +60

      Good advice. Unfortunatelly, I dont think there is a formula that would work 100% of the time. I knew of a woman that wss getting her car robbed and she was shot and killed out of frustration because she threw the car keys behind the robber.

    • @mrblaque215
      @mrblaque215 Год назад +32

      @@ignacioorozco9919 no doubt. Like I said it only worked twice and that’s cause I was on the street, and I had room to escape. The other two times, I was cornered and gave my stuff up and prayed the guy wouldn’t shoot.

    • @ignacioorozco9919
      @ignacioorozco9919 Год назад +20

      @@mrblaque215 what a shitty situation to find yourself in. I have also been held at gunpoint a few times and I just did exactly as I was told. I did gave up all my stuff but I was lucky nothing else happened.

    • @mrblaque215
      @mrblaque215 Год назад +18

      @@ignacioorozco9919 very shitty situation. Unless you’re armed to the teeth and have the opportunity to use your weapons with the element of surprise, you pretty much have to use your head and do whatever you need to survive.

    • @dandee7045
      @dandee7045 Год назад +14

      Haha time for my decoy wallet!!!!

  • @ArifRWinandar
    @ArifRWinandar Год назад +100

    1:41 Mike is so big now that he has a background dancer for his sponsorship segment.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +60

      I said Eric just stand back there and play with the knife... and he did it exactly right lol.

    • @misterkami2
      @misterkami2 Год назад +5

      @@hard2hurt I have to say; I loved this video's content and its message... but that stuff in the background was the icing on the cake. Eric just won the internet today

    • @user-om6if1nv3d
      @user-om6if1nv3d 7 месяцев назад +1

      Pleeease… That’s not just daaaancing: That is interpretative dance ! Give credit to where credit is due!

    • @Mojo32
      @Mojo32 5 месяцев назад

      Yes! 😂

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 5 месяцев назад +1

      Gotta love the contemporary knife kungfu lololol

  • @blackhound89
    @blackhound89 Год назад +103

    I live in Brazil so I dont know how it is in america, but in Brazil, if someone tries to rob you with a knife or a gun, almost 100% of the time the guy who is trying to rob you has at least one more guy waiting just in case, meaning resisting will almost always result in being jumped by at least one more guy so I would say resisting is always th riskier choice, although according to the numbers in this video it looks like it is somehow different in america

    • @soviethammer9111
      @soviethammer9111 Год назад +28

      My Brazilian friend told me the scariest thing you can see in Brazil is "two guys on a motorcycle" . it always ends up poorly lol

    • @bobfaam5215
      @bobfaam5215 Год назад

      @@user-dt8cn9gw9wBrazil too does not have real poverty .
      Brazil is a high income country .

    • @eyfb616
      @eyfb616 Год назад +11

      @@bobfaam5215go to the favela and tell them that

    • @vladimirgertner3960
      @vladimirgertner3960 5 месяцев назад

      In US they might shoot you after they robbed you.

    • @JohnSmith-ct5jd
      @JohnSmith-ct5jd 4 месяца назад +5

      I found it interesting that when the Olympics were held in Brazil, for all of the crime, there were no Islamist terror attacks. Most attributed that to the excellent security. I don't. I attribute it to the fact that apparently, the favelas of Rio were too rough even for ISIS!

  • @iPsychlops
    @iPsychlops Год назад +190

    This is the best self defense video I've ever seen, and your undercover friend is a good person. "Work at a soup kitchen if you're afraid of homeless people" as a therapist, that's the best advice. We can it exposure therapy. Also don't carry a gun if you're not well adjusted. 👏🏽

    • @Raiden4019
      @Raiden4019 Год назад +11

      His name is Craig Douglas (nicknamed "Southnarc"), he's been featured a couple times on this channel but he is considered one of the "big names" in the industry. Specifically, his Extreme Close Quarter Concepts and Edged Weapons Overview courses are probably the best educational resources in the world on being able to draw a gun while fighting another human (who might also be trying to draw their gun, it's also where they do a car scenario based on the experience Craig described), and fighting and controlling someone who has a knife respectively. Guy has a wealth of knowledge and is an overall gem of a human being.

    • @VonRibbitt
      @VonRibbitt Год назад

      As a scammer you mean

    • @raydrexler5868
      @raydrexler5868 Год назад +11

      @@VonRibbitt you should explain that comment if you have information on a scam

    • @BWater-yq3jx
      @BWater-yq3jx Год назад +7

      Yes, my experience of homeless people and other 'street-life' is that they're reasonable and friendly if you are.
      😀
      But, most of these folks are not mentally stable, so if you do something that irks them...
      their mental state can flip real quick. 🤬

    • @Raiden4019
      @Raiden4019 Год назад +1

      @@BWater-yq3jx They definitely fall into the category of people that "won't show you [their] best until you prove you can handle [their] worst", that's for darn sure!

  • @CoolStory-
    @CoolStory- Год назад +141

    After seeing what Mike did in the latest episode of Ultimate Self Defence Championship I'm eagerly awaiting a zombie apocalypse self defence video.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +74

      Yikes... so much to cover.

    • @kevinbihari
      @kevinbihari Год назад +15

      ​@@hard2hurt i feel like you were the most badass one there.
      I also think that as the leader of both groups you took the risk, and in the end it turned out like it did. But because you were alone.
      If it were a 1v1v1v1v1v1 i have no doubts that you'd be the most capable.
      But you also mighy die because some dumb shit like "let's capture one".
      I also fully expected you to arm the civillians and have them as a meat shield

    • @switch4960
      @switch4960 Год назад +3

      I dunno though… head kicks and zombies sounds like an absolute riot. Sure it may seem cheesy on the surface but It could easily turn into a serious discussion almost solely because you love that stiff front kick for creating space, Mike. Choosing where to kick that zombie is life or death…

    • @ZovcDrafts
      @ZovcDrafts Год назад +7

      That episode looked fun, but it seems like Mike's leadership ended up getting everything it touched killed. 🤣

    • @user-om6if1nv3d
      @user-om6if1nv3d 7 месяцев назад

      I’d just watched a video of some Somali guys invading The mayor’s office in Mogadishu. Those guys WHERE zombies. They’ve been shot many times and bled profusely, but continued to go ahead. Drugs turn normal people into zombies! Never forget that !

  • @danguillou713
    @danguillou713 Год назад +43

    I was robbed working the night shift at a convenience store. Now that's a bit different, it's more impersonal than somebody robbing your wallet. They wanted the register, not my own stuff. But I also got this impression that they were trying to be focused and sharp. You know like they were trying to be professional. That actually felt good. The dude in charge kept his distance, told me to open the register, to step back while he pulled the whole tray out and handed it to the other guy across the counter. No crazy eyes or pistol-whipping or anything that'd make me think I'd get shot for no reason. And also no stupid openings that would make me think fighting was an option. Special case, I know. I know people who got beaten and tied to a radiator in the back, and I can only imagine how that must feel. But my robbery, that was easy.

  • @1308lee
    @1308lee Год назад +16

    That was something that speaks volumes that I’ve never heard before and that makes sense beyond anything I’ve heard in "self defence" anything. If you’re being moved to a secondary crime scene it’s always going to be bad news.

  • @BlakeMcCringleberry
    @BlakeMcCringleberry Год назад +110

    Although the rate of injury may go from 25% to 18% in the comply vs fight back scenario, I wonder if the severity of injury changes as well.
    If the 25% rate of injury is 90% a punch to the gut versus 18% rate of injury being 70% chance of being stabbed in the side, the calculus changes even further.

    • @clawedsimian
      @clawedsimian Год назад +17

      That was my first thought too. Would really like to see the stats on it.

    • @tillburr6799
      @tillburr6799 Год назад +15

      This was making me wonder as well. “Injury” is too vague

    • @chainyrabbit
      @chainyrabbit Год назад +3

      Yeah, type of injury, maybe 25% is a better call

    • @buiux
      @buiux Год назад +7

      i also want to know the numbers of reactions that lead to death vs comply that lead to death os the victim.

    • @fluppet2350
      @fluppet2350 Год назад +10

      Really it should have ended with- Only fight if they look like they are going to attack you anyways or try to take you to another location.
      There are not many other situations where it is a good idea to fight back especially since you are not likely to have hundreds of hours of training in this specific area and if there is more than 1 robber you are completely screwed.

  • @davidkailer5522
    @davidkailer5522 Год назад +130

    I love the series but I think these after-action breakdowns are super valuable and informative

  • @nextphasetkd
    @nextphasetkd Год назад +39

    Your man in the background pulling focus away from the sponsor with his slick knife moves. 😂

  • @anthonycorey5448
    @anthonycorey5448 Год назад +19

    I have heard lots of stories of people in Brazil getting killed by fighting back in a robbery. I was robbed by 3 guys with foot long butcher knives and I raised my hands and let them rob me and walked away. Robbers usually have 2 or 3 guys.

    • @josepetersen7112
      @josepetersen7112 3 месяца назад +4

      The solution is to only move in fire team+ sized elements. They wouldn't have had a chance if you had 3 more good guys and an LMG.
      (That is sarcasm)

  • @marmas5
    @marmas5 Год назад +54

    I’m a police officer that has been in martial arts since I was about 14. I’ve always been attracted to it all. Sport and self defense. However the self defense has always been way more appealing. This video was wildly entertaining to watch. The statistics and real life encounters was great.

    • @therealrantroom
      @therealrantroom Год назад

      As a police officer. What have you seen as more affected with defense on criminals in different situations?

    • @studytime3461
      @studytime3461 Год назад +3

      I am glad to hear that an officer actually trains... often times it is very insulting to a well trained, well intentioned citizen like me to be treated like A child by a man who i could kill 3 ways in 3 seconds... not saying that I have that intention... but police must stop acting like the "real man" to people who have suffered things that would break the officer and cease talking down to people who who make short work of them in either sport or warfare.

  • @lobstereleven4610
    @lobstereleven4610 Год назад +18

    Icy Mike + shivworks + ASP is the most anticipated collab since the Avengers. 😂😂

  • @fireeaglefitnessmartialart935
    @fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 Год назад +44

    My dad told me some of his fight stories including 1 where he was getting mugged. But he grew up a black man in the 70s n 80s and had school fights, bar fights, tried to get into boxing. When he was getting mugged, from behind, he fought back by being smart, slick, and aggressive. He told me this happened after my parents divorced and we were supposed to come visit that weekend. He won that altercation without injury, but it was also a knife, not a gun.

    • @yourworstnightmare1488
      @yourworstnightmare1488 Год назад +2

      cool story bro

    • @dank-bongripper9836
      @dank-bongripper9836 Год назад +1

      He grew up a black man. This implies that he transitioned into a white middle aged guy? Or did it happen naturally? Maybe like this fish species that starts out as female and grows into a male. Can i become less mixed?

  • @kez_the_reaper2657
    @kez_the_reaper2657 Год назад +22

    You can tell you spent a lot of time working with wrestlers, I was really impressed watching the ultimate self defense challenge I didn't know your grappling skills were that good 😊

  • @MMAShredded
    @MMAShredded Год назад +7

    congratulations on 500 k!!!! wooooooo!!! awesome creative advertisement btw

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +1

      Thanks man... race ya to 1 mil!

  • @Tianshanwarrior
    @Tianshanwarrior Год назад +14

    You have NO control of other people's actions. In my youth I experienced two situations on each side of the spectrum. 1. My father and I were robbed at knife point by 4 guys, when in a bus. The guys put 3 knives around his neck. He gave up his ring, and that was the end of it. 2. Two guys followed a young guy on the bus I was in. One took the students' gold necklace, and the other waved a gun around threatening everyone. They got off the bus, which was not moving due to a traffic jam; the one with the gun walked by my window, which was slightly opened, and they shot the victim who was sttanding. There was no reason for that. Luckily, the bullet hit him on the shoulder blade... again, no control

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 Год назад

      the victim that was shot, can you remember if they were looking at the robbers?

    • @Tianshanwarrior
      @Tianshanwarrior Год назад +2

      @@driver3899 everybody was, I think the criminal wanted to teach the victim a lesson for trying to avoid the robbery by getting on the bus

  • @Lacerik
    @Lacerik Год назад +39

    My question about the 25% full compliance versus 18% committed resistance injury rates is whether there was a trend of severity of injury.
    Like you get a 7% reduced injury rate but do you increase your likelihood of that injury being potentially fatal?
    Basically are armed robbers who are resisted more likely to escalate to lethal force than those that are complied with?

    • @smackssmacks1306
      @smackssmacks1306 Год назад +16

      That statistic is pretty useless on it's own. There are far too many unknown factors.
      Were they crying and making a fuzz? Complying but being too slow? Mouthing off? Did the robber have a bias against them? Does age factor in? Race? Were they handing over things of high enough perceived value? What motivated the robber into the situation in the first place? Etc, etc, and so on and so on.
      A "gangsta" who wants to rob the preppy kid who took the wrong street home from school is very different from the meth-head with withdrawals who is desperate for $50 for their next fix.

    • @DagarCoH
      @DagarCoH Год назад +8

      Had to scroll waaaaay too deep down to finally find someone who stated the REAL question here...

    • @Buphido
      @Buphido Год назад +7

      Yeah, I was honestly kinda upset with the statistic being brought up the way it was. Not only was the type of injury way too vague, it also didn’t mention death at all, despite the fact that that is the ONLY real statistic of consequence here. This paints an entirely misleading picture imo.

    • @g3intel
      @g3intel 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Buphido I wouldn't say that's the only real statistic of consequence given how many points there are on the spectrum of head and spinal injuries between "harmless" and "dead", many of which are still a far far far far worse quality of life

  • @alwaystraining54
    @alwaystraining54 Год назад +183

    I lost my dad to an armed robbery when I was a year old. He chose to fight back and he lost. It wasn’t a knife, but a single 25 cal bullet to the temple.

    • @de0509
      @de0509 Год назад +84

      Im with the opinion that for self defense, being in an armed society is tactically advantageous. But its strategically disadvantageous to be in that armed society. Im from a third world country where guns are illegal to own. Guns went underground (obviously) and only became the worry of gangs and police. Almost no one is risking their neck at the gallows for petty crime with small money. Civilians dont have to worry about guns used on them. So for low profile cases, its at most just knives or machetes. And that can be mitigated by a random plastic chair, or a table, or a plank. Its easy to understand that criminals just dont want to deal with all that. Thats why our robberies are in the form of snatch thefts instead of gunpoint robberies. As a civilian, I think better lose a handbag and only able to watch it go, than dying to a finger twitch by some robber high on adrenaline. Comparing stats on nationmaster it says that the murder rate per capita in the USA is 83% more than mine. Btw have I mentioned my country is a third world country?

    • @4xdblack
      @4xdblack Год назад +3

      ​@@de0509 mind sharing which country?

    • @de0509
      @de0509 Год назад +64

      @@4xdblack oh sure. Im from Malaysia. We have among the strictest gun laws. Civilians know that criminals most probably dont have guns, so we know we always have a chance. Cops know we civilians probably dont have guns so theyre not on edge 24/7. Still pigs whereever they are on earth, but they dont treat us like a threat. We dont have cases where people get shot for reaching for ID, or getting shot for talking on the phone. Im not against the American 2nd amendment. I enjoy what american gun culture bring to the world. Plus, theres no way to reverse it. But theres pros and cons in everything. The only good reason to have guns is as a way to threaten corrupt governments. No more no less. The cons of it is, then, everyone gets a gun, even if theyre scummy.

    • @4xdblack
      @4xdblack Год назад +8

      @@de0509 thanks for sharing!

    • @Thomas116-m2n
      @Thomas116-m2n Год назад +14

      @@de0509 The criminals also know that most people DON'T have firearms so they are easier targets.

  • @meddem7060
    @meddem7060 Год назад +29

    My best friend lost both his arms during an arm robbery.

    • @bullzebub
      @bullzebub Год назад +15

      he should have legged it.

    • @joaovictorsalesgomes1614
      @joaovictorsalesgomes1614 Год назад +1

      how?

    • @anon2034
      @anon2034 11 месяцев назад

      Shot?

    • @yharim180
      @yharim180 9 месяцев назад

      @anon2034 couldn’t’ve been. Robber was un armed. Probably not for long, after, though.

    • @letsdothis9063
      @letsdothis9063 5 месяцев назад

      Were they strong arms?

  • @Austin-ho2cg
    @Austin-ho2cg Год назад +56

    Cool to see you making a video about this. I remember taking krav maga back in the day and they would always say to just give them your wallet if they want that but the gun/knife defenses were only for if you felt like they were going to kill you anyway.
    I couldn't help but always think "okay but how do I know??"
    Great stuff as always

    • @kinbolluck476
      @kinbolluck476 Год назад

      I WNANA A

    • @jamielondon6436
      @jamielondon6436 Год назад +7

      Frankly, even if you don't have the kind of life experiences like these guys do, you still will have lots of experience with people. So, trust your gut. It's pretty much the single best piece of self-defence advice there is.

    • @laraballard7125
      @laraballard7125 Год назад +11

      @@jamielondon6436 There's a book by Gavin de Becker called the Gift of Fear that says more or less this: In a time of extreme stress, your fear instinct will cause your subconscious mind to assess and formulate a plan of action faster than your conscious mind can process it. He says just let that instinct guide you; don't overthink it or try to second-guess it, worry whether you're "overreacting" or being rude, etc.

    • @Bonaventurax
      @Bonaventurax Год назад +1

      ​@jamielondon6436 I agree on that. Just wanted to remind you on the movement to a secondary crime scene. That's what I heard a lot and at that point I would say compliance is not your best bet.

  • @kdb678able
    @kdb678able Год назад +5

    Your talk with Craig Douglas should be required watching for every person.

  • @TDCIYB77
    @TDCIYB77 Год назад +5

    Great to see the GOAT John on the channel!

  • @sesimie
    @sesimie Год назад +10

    This is lifesaving stuff Mike. Very needed!

  • @BWater-yq3jx
    @BWater-yq3jx Год назад +3

    Yes, good catch on the stats.
    Always gotta be aware of associated factors and correlation vs causation.
    VERY likely that people who fight back have a strong mindset &/or relevant training.

  • @janitor1165
    @janitor1165 Год назад +4

    I really like the idea of putting effort into being more socially adjusted. Too many people are trying to become living weapons before developing themselves as people so they know how to properly apply that power.

  • @namenamenamename7224
    @namenamenamename7224 Год назад +47

    Hardest mf in the room's advice on armed robberies: "Volunteer at a soup kitchen". Excellent vid.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +10

      That's a great takeaway.

  • @911Ranger1
    @911Ranger1 Год назад +1

    Dudeeeeee!!!! Seeing this crossover with John from ASP is so awesome. Two of my favorite channels, but didn't realize you two ever collabed!

  • @The_Stickle_Cell
    @The_Stickle_Cell Год назад +8

    Don't worry Mike, that little girl had it coming!

  • @mattwalewangko
    @mattwalewangko Год назад +14

    "...or rescuing the president's daughter, like the bad dude that you are." 😂 NOT MIKE CALLING OUT THE LEON COSPLAYERS (ME) 😭🤣

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer 2 месяца назад

      Or it's a reference to the 1988 Data East arcade game "Bad Dudes vs. Dragon Ninja."

  • @staysafemartialarts
    @staysafemartialarts Год назад +4

    Great insight and options for controlling the weapon. We played around with this in class this week

  • @thesadanimations
    @thesadanimations Год назад +10

    Just watched the third episode (spoilers below obv)
    The zombie survival was your episode, you were badass. Some stuff looked like scenes out of an action movie, especially when you got your solo run after merking your teammates like that- not gonna lie you reminded me a lot of the Last Ronin Mikey

  • @etincg82
    @etincg82 Год назад +2

    Thank you for linking up with Active Self Protection. You 2 are my favorite channels

  • @gw1357
    @gw1357 Год назад +7

    That Bad Dudes reference was rad.
    I didn't think the knife kick was a fluke at all. I have a saying with my guys -- "strike your way into and out of every clinch."
    Great discussion with Craig Douglas. The idea that you should have to work a soup kitchen before you're allowed to carry a gun (while probably not constitutional) is a really good one.

  • @MgelikaXevi
    @MgelikaXevi Год назад +1

    great insights!
    the fighting against knife in a friendly sparring usually is very different to real life scenario tho. In sparring , when you are "attacker" you know, that this "knife" is literally useless, so there is no need to really fight for it or to build your whole strategy around it.
    In real life that knife is life and death question for both parties, last thing to lose, last thing to give up. Unless they don`t really want to use it, which is also a case in some scenarios.

  • @zachkennedy5677
    @zachkennedy5677 Год назад +2

    I love this video. Very informative!
    I have been subbed to ASP for a long time, never missing a video. Recently this year I started watching H2H. Glad you and John got connected.
    You guys have made me want to make a career of it and help spread the awareness to more people. It’s a new idea and I haven’t much background in it but give me a few years… my community needs an indoor shooting range and I think a firearms school, shooting range, and a gym/grappling gym all in one facility would be a pretty sweet option for people who really want to commit to being prepared for self defense encounters.

  • @RobertAgarHutton
    @RobertAgarHutton Год назад +6

    Really good video, great content - Always good to hear professionals giving their opinion based on experience. By the way, that doesn't mean that every professional will have worthwhile things to say FOR YOU, your own circumstances as a civilian are different in terms of training and probably in terms of potential risk.
    As to the difficult question of Comply vs Resist. For years I've taught that 'Everything is situational' by which I mean that every situation is unique and you should have as much training in different scenarios as possible, but even then reality is nothing like practice for 99.9% of people and attacks. However I do TOTALLY agree with the warning about second location - on that one the evidence clearly shows that complying with an attacker's 'request' to go somewhere else is NOT NOT NOT something that is a good idea to go along with.
    Secondly, I say that whatever you do, irrespective of the outcome, you are doing the best you can in the moment and you should respect yourself for that. And assuming you survive (irrespective of any trauma or injuries you may suffer) then you did the right thing and you should congratulate yourself move on (and yes, I know that's one of those glib things that's easy to say but damn difficult to do).
    As they used to say in 'Hill Street Blues' - "Be careful out there". :)

  • @NPonlamuangsri
    @NPonlamuangsri Год назад +1

    ASP and H2H is the crossover we all needed!

  • @ben-arte8936
    @ben-arte8936 Год назад +12

    Craig Douglas is a breath of fresh air in the community

  • @BlakeMcCringleberry
    @BlakeMcCringleberry Год назад +3

    That kung fu knife technique going on in the background is *chef's kiss*

  • @switch4960
    @switch4960 Год назад +5

    I’m fairly certain that knife fighting over sponsored goods is a scout badge.

  • @kaoskronostyche9939
    @kaoskronostyche9939 Год назад +1

    "It is not always or never." Excellent. "Sell your certainty and buy bewilderment." - Rumi.
    Both are excellent advice in so many situations. New to this channel. Seems like good place. See you again. Cheers! And thank you. Liked.

  • @Macreadysshack
    @Macreadysshack 7 месяцев назад

    I love the message of becoming better adjusted as a critical part of self defense.

  • @OldBadger1
    @OldBadger1 9 месяцев назад

    H2H . That is literally the only knife defense that I have found to work . Great job.!!

  • @IronMongoose1
    @IronMongoose1 Год назад

    I love this video so much.
    Dude basically channels Karl Tanswell... textbook... Correia and Douglas make appearances. This is the best thing ever.

  • @alexd4066
    @alexd4066 Год назад

    This is my favorite fighting channel Mike’s hysterical

  • @drfronkensteen9205
    @drfronkensteen9205 Год назад +11

    I was accosted once and asked for money. (No weapon presented) I don’t know what it was but like the officer’s story I felt like something was off. I just started talking to myself at the top of my lungs like I was nuts and the guy backed off immediately.

  • @steviek1980
    @steviek1980 Год назад

    What a great, immersive, educational, and complete explanation…it was great to see you and ASP on the same screen!!!

  • @tomnaughadie
    @tomnaughadie Год назад +1

    I knew you'd be great in the zombie apocalypse episode, but it was even cooler than I thought it would be.
    You should make a Kung fu movie.

  • @lulospawn
    @lulospawn Год назад

    Oooh I've been waiting for some time to see you and John in the same screen. That's so cool.

  • @stevenalexander6033
    @stevenalexander6033 Год назад +1

    Favorite thing from episode 2 is mike kicking a knife out of dude's hand... when he was the one who is most skeptical of being able to... even if it was just luck and circumstance..

  • @davidchesher3933
    @davidchesher3933 3 месяца назад

    Best 4th Wall Break for Product Placement EVER!!!

  • @12Tommywest
    @12Tommywest Год назад

    Another good line by you . Rizz short for charisma. Never thought of it. mind blown!

  • @corteslacut
    @corteslacut Год назад +5

    The knife kata on the background 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @GlitchyRijndael
    @GlitchyRijndael Год назад +2

    Request, do a follow up video on this addressing the “throw the wallet away” advice

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 Год назад

      Yeah thats a great idea
      I suspect its worthwhile though because its what CIA operatives and SF commonly do

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative Год назад +3

    Yeah man, Did everyone copy Ramsey Dewey or what? LOL Dude in the background doin Katas while you sell the watch was hilarious!

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Год назад +1

      We didn't know what the people before us did.

    • @BMO_Creative
      @BMO_Creative Год назад

      @@hard2hurt Cool! Oh, And you kicked the crap out of that padded knife guy! He didn't want any more of you! LOL

  • @vyderka
    @vyderka Год назад +2

    One of the best or just the best of your videos, and since in my view your channel is one of the best self defense ones it makes it one of the best videos on YT.. :D
    What I like about your explanations is that usually you don't give a definitive answer but provide a background to find different solutions in different circumstances.
    Oh, and you were and are totally wrong about expandable batons :D

  • @carltonbauheimer
    @carltonbauheimer Год назад

    Solid.
    And best sponsor transition ever

  • @colinparnell3029
    @colinparnell3029 Год назад +2

    There's a youtuber by the name of jay Williams, reformed ex con, maybe see if he can point you to someone for a viewpoint on being the aggressor, also his view on confrontations in prison might be helpful. But I love your vids, keep up the great work!!

  • @MisterBrowning
    @MisterBrowning Год назад

    im like 5 seconds into his ad for the watches, having never even thought about the existence of a tactical watch and im already thinking... man i gotta get me a tactical watch

  • @GlitchyRijndael
    @GlitchyRijndael Год назад

    Great video bro. Easily one of your best ones yet. I’m already sharing this with all my buddies

  • @KeithCasper
    @KeithCasper Год назад

    I really appreciate this interview. This shows wisdom and emotional intelligence.

  • @charlescollier7217
    @charlescollier7217 Год назад +2

    "Stop thinking, 'always and never."" This right here.

  • @modernchow
    @modernchow Год назад

    that last question would be very interesting to hear more about

  • @kathleenwrightson8230
    @kathleenwrightson8230 Год назад

    Half mill. I'm truly impressed. Super proud of your hard work.

  • @miesvaillanykyisyytta3252
    @miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Год назад +4

    I think the internet has saved a lot of young men from being stabbed or shot. What I mean by this is that I'm barely old enough to remember the time before online access was prevalent and people would watch movies of action heroes saying smug lines when they had a gun to their head. Then they would judo flip the bad guy on his face and catch their weapon. Of course in real life it's not so smooth but the 15 year old me would probably have felt confident about going against a knife because that's what I saw in the movies and at a certain age you feel immortal.

    • @driver3899
      @driver3899 Год назад +2

      now we have a lot of smug content creators that will tell you one weird trick that does much the same thing

  • @Cryley
    @Cryley Год назад

    This might be the best video you've ever made mike!

  • @miguelcregogarcia6451
    @miguelcregogarcia6451 Год назад +19

    They ‘ve tried to rob me several times and I believe that the best thing you can do for self defense is train “ANYTHING” that keeps you outside of fishy places and focused.
    1st time; at the entrance of an arcade. Tried to rob my phone, but they desisted ( I guess there were a lot of witnesses and they idiots. I complied with that one…but still got to keep my stuff.
    2nd time; on my way to college through a “shortcut”, 2 18 yo gipsy kids tried to rob me while their “big 30yo brothers checked up on them”… one got his hand inside my pocket and tried to take my phone out.
    Grabbed his hand and managed to distract him until someone from a nearby built threatened to call the cops and they let me go un harmed and with all my stuff.
    3rd time; A bunch of bastards decided to rob me and a guy I had met in a bar( he clearly had some nasty business with them), They got him to go outside and tried to convince me of going, I was having a drink, so I gave it to the guy that was trying to get me outside while I asked for another 2 drinks… he rushed the drink and tried to push me outside, to which I handed him the next one, and the the next, (we talk about a tube glass of whiskey), after the 3 cups in 10 seconds, he decided to leave 😂 and I stayed safe for the night.
    4th time; I was in a bar with a friend and a guy tried to touch me and kiss me. I pushed him away and contours to drink my beer… next thing I remember Is waking up in my bed. Called my friend and he confirmed that everything was ok, he had taken me home, but clearly I had been drugged with mean intentions.
    5th time; 5 big ass bastards surrounded me and asked “ what time is it” and took my phone ( another reason to have a watch); but it was so old that they gave it back ( they almost give me some money as they left 😂.
    Form all those situations, ALL could have been avoided if I would have not been in those places.
    There are bad people everywhere, but it is best to keep yourself as far from them as you can.

    • @Debiruman1666
      @Debiruman1666 Год назад +2

      That's I pretty much always say, the two main thing to learn in self-defence are :
      1°) Avoid notoriously fishy places if you don't have serious business here, especially late, and if you have no real choice, don't carry anything of valor, or avoid looking like a walking cash-machine, or avoid doing stupid things, like wearing a shirt of the wrong team at the wrong place (I'm french, here you should NEVER wear a Paris Saint-Germain football/soccer team shirt if you go to Marseille, it can get you in real trouble).
      2°) The first thing you should train in self-defence is being able to sprint at full speed for about one or two minutes... agressors are usually lazy, they don't expect or want things to get difficult for them, if you manage to escape and run away, it's unlikely that they'll run after you for more than a minute or two, especially if it makes them stepping out of their safety zone.
      Bonus 3°) Never respond to some nobody calling you just sitting there in the street, waiting for who knows what (especially if they are a bunch of nobodies)... especially if you're not somewhere familiar, if they want to know what's the time, a cigarette or a dime, they won't need you anyway, and as it is said in this video, and it's a very important thing, NEVER follow someone fishy into another "quieter" place, even if you already know you're being in an agression, once you're in the spider's web, you're dead, it's better to get a couple of punches and kicks in plain sight, if it happens, than taking the risk of much worse where nobody can see, hear or help you... as I mentioned earlier, most agressors are lazy... and cowards, most of the time they won't insist if things don't turn the way they wanted, they want an easy job, if they feel like you can give them quite a hard time, they most likely won't insist.

  • @wooden2621
    @wooden2621 Год назад +11

    Back in like 2019 I got robbed at gunpoint by 3 dudes in a pickup truck in broad daylight, in front of an elementary school. Long story short I gave them the backpack I was wearing which luckily didn't have much in it. Afterwards when word spread about it some of my friends/people I knew would say things like "nah i wouldn't have given them anything" or "see this is why you need a gun". A sentiment I also see in the comments and just in general online.
    I think one thing people dont realize is how fast these situations unfold, and how often the cards are stacked against you. Even with the power of hindsight that let me pick up on some of the cues before the robbery, there wasn't much I could do to avoid that. They were in a truck, I was on foot in the suburbs with no immediate escape routes. They had 3 dudes with guns, so even if I was armed the chances are I lose that exchange. And once they actually decided to pull up, it was like less than a 5 second ordeal to give them my stuff before they were gone.

  • @Jedi_Jed
    @Jedi_Jed Год назад

    Oh I love it. This definitely not what we used to learn. It’s really cool how the world is getting to the truly effective stuff.

  • @toririn-co7ym
    @toririn-co7ym Год назад +5

    Ive been into a sharp weapon situation multiple times already luckily i got out alive not fighting back is a smart tactic

    • @ZovcDrafts
      @ZovcDrafts Год назад +1

      75% is great odds for gambling.

  • @syne5738
    @syne5738 Год назад +14

    As someone who has been stabbed. If you genuinely feel like you’re being threatened, and have the competency to jump. Jump and jump hard.
    Bright side is, even if you get poked once, you’ll beat the brakes off em in the end

  • @malkomalkavian
    @malkomalkavian Год назад +1

    Another creative and thoughtful video, thank you :)

  • @philipschinetsky
    @philipschinetsky Год назад

    Fantastic video man. I love doing agility ladder work but this has me looking at it a new way with trying to keep the small motion stuff in mind

  • @ashleysanford8645
    @ashleysanford8645 3 месяца назад +1

    That's interesting to see two older ex cops talking about problems with memories in sh00ting situations. And yet you see other cops beating the hell out of a victim because they can't remember something perfectly instantly every time!! ZERO empathy for regular people!

  • @coreymbonge9532
    @coreymbonge9532 Год назад

    lmao.. it was so hard for me to follow the ad with dude in the background doing ninja moves 😂

  • @Highimdadtwo
    @Highimdadtwo Год назад +1

    One important thing: You can prevent it from happening to begin with. Situational awareness, and social/emotional intelligence.

  • @HienNguyen-vs2rj
    @HienNguyen-vs2rj Год назад +12

    The BJS study referenced is a little more nuanced than what red polo guy quoted. The study separates armed robberies into muggings (surprise attack) and confrontational robberies (threat issued). Victims who found back against confrontational robbers armed w/ handguns were more likely to get injured than if they didn't fight back. I don't want people to get the false idea that they are less likely to get hurt if they fight back against someone with a gun.

    • @Dan-cl8gh
      @Dan-cl8gh 4 месяца назад

      Interesting you said this because that’s what my intuition told me if you broke this down further there’s a lot more nuance to it and that nuance might show to comply in certain situations and maybe fighting back in other scenarios and recognizing which scenario you’re in.

  • @yukiminsan
    @yukiminsan Год назад

    GOAT ad transition

  • @tomgarcia7992
    @tomgarcia7992 Год назад

    Awesome content. I love the collaborations

  • @eugenekillian8807
    @eugenekillian8807 Год назад

    This was a terrific vid and it was made 100x better by Eric doing the Bruce Lee stuff in the background while you were promoting the watch haha

  • @OldBadger1
    @OldBadger1 9 месяцев назад +1

    Mindset. If you train real hard in CQC, your mind is geared to fight. Hard to give up your stuff, even against a knife.

  • @navy80to04
    @navy80to04 Год назад

    One of the best RUclips videos

  • @enriquespangenberg1934
    @enriquespangenberg1934 Год назад

    One of your best videos ever. Congrats

  • @JamesMBC
    @JamesMBC Год назад

    Cool getin John Correia's take! And what a great marketing technique to have his business logo tattoed.
    Maybe Icy Mike shoud get an RKM tattoo? I think forhead is best for maximum brand awareness, but forearm seems good enough.

  • @bobkantor4695
    @bobkantor4695 Год назад

    Tim Larkin, in his wonderful book titled, "When Violence is the Answer", offers a simple guideline to the question. He suggests that if you have the time to consider whether or not to resist, then you probably should not (UNLESS the perp is trying to move you to another location.) I.e., if you are not under attack, don't resist. BUT, if you no longer have time to think about it bc you are being attacked, then go for massive damage right away with no holding back. As others have stated, even this is not an "always or never" situation". It's just a general guideline. Tim's book goes into much more depth on the question.

  • @NaClSandwich
    @NaClSandwich Год назад

    This was a really high quality video. Thanks.

  • @jonathana1572
    @jonathana1572 Год назад +3

    Lets go Icy Mike!

  • @jotapedonoso4696
    @jotapedonoso4696 Год назад

    1:54 IS this a Resident Evil 4 reference Mike? If it is, along with your role in the zombie self defense episode, then you've crowned yourselft as my favorite and most funny martial arts youtuber lmao

  • @raydrexler5868
    @raydrexler5868 Год назад

    Gonna werk into the training scenarios that the attacker may or may not use their weapon. I think the tells will be the same even in training. Help students get a feel for reading the body language and voice. As always, killer content. Be safe

  • @therealrantroom
    @therealrantroom Год назад

    Its always variable with situations plus male / female ect. But either way I appreciate you discussing different situations because alot of 'defense channels' base it on only one situation defending that makes them look successful yet sometimes you shouldn't defend.

  • @sirrivet9557
    @sirrivet9557 Год назад +2

    Adding to the wait your turn thing, I know a friend who was held at knifepoint (dont want to disclose details but it was not a robbery) and had their attacker sit on them. Their attacker set down the knife for a second, as soon as they did that they flipped their attacker over and beat the shit out of them before running out of the house. If they fully complied I'm not sure if they'd still be alive. Likewise if they fought right away well... knowing them theyd be alive but with a few more scars on their body. So yeah be smart

  • @silvereaglexi3888
    @silvereaglexi3888 3 месяца назад

    You should get in touch with Spanian for the "someone that's robbed more people than anyone you know" part.

  • @antant06
    @antant06 Год назад

    One of your best videos ever. Thank you!

  • @NPonlamuangsri
    @NPonlamuangsri Год назад

    I’d love to see you review Craig’s Clinch Pick too!

  • @Boomerhikes
    @Boomerhikes Год назад +1

    I've been robbed several times (late night pizza shop life) complied once fought twice.. I only regret the complied. They went on to hurt elderly people with their next robbery.

  • @yesmhm69
    @yesmhm69 3 месяца назад +1

    6:29
    "You ever rob anybody? "
    *hesitation*
    "No"
    X for doubt 👀