THIS IS BRILLIANT! - The Great War: Western Front 2024 Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- The Great War: Western Front has all the makings of a fun, challenging & replayable historical strategy game. Awesome turn based campaigns with deep technology trees, dynamic events and a decent AI with really fun real time battles that are quite similar to Total War.
It's been a year and 3 major updates since the launch of the game in March 2023! So in this video I want to revisit this World War 1 strategy from Petroglyph to see how the game plays today, whether it's improved enough on the issues it launched with and whether it's worth buying & playing in 2024!
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While things can get repetitive, and despite multiplayer campaigns still missing, I still think Great War: The Western Front is really great fun. Hopefully there's more coming with modding support recently released & hopefully some of the issues I've mentioned here get addressed in future updates. What do you think? Is Great War: The Western Front worth playing? Let me know below!
I absolutely adore this game, but after 130 hours some core issues with the game have really started to hold back my enjoyment
1: If you capture an objective, in the next battle you should still hold that objective
2: Executing proper combined arms as the player is far too easy; I shouldn't be able to properly coordinate infantry and artillery day 1
3: There needs to be infantry level squad weapons (rifle grenades, light machine guns, etc.) to enable the suppression of machine guns and other strongpoints rather than artillery being the one to do the job, and infantry should be able to attack other infantry in trenches
3a: Machine guns need to be mobile, if very slow, to allow you to move them as need be, and be a vital part of defending against counter attacks when you capture a trench, giving light machine guns a significant role
4: A lot of maps are either far too shallow to execute proper defense in depth tactics (i.e. a forward tripwire type line, with a secondary main defensive line and 3rd reserve line far to the rear) or too wide for the Pop Cap
5: The building system discourages building barbed wire and bunkers since they take up space you need for trenches (bunkers are too big and barbed wire can't touch trenches)
6: The AI really cannot do combined arms, and just relies on weight of numbers and spamming artillery to get anything done
7: The AI cannot build cohesive trench networks that actually feel difficult to attack and breakthrough
8: Bombers need a nerf; I'm beyond sick of the AI sending in a pair of bombers and wiping out literally every MG and mortar emplacement at the start of every match unless I put up fighters
Last update was Sept 23 a little worrying that theres been no more progress...
The updates for this mod have always been few and far between.
Edit: oh whoops here's me thinking it was the mod for empire lmao.
I think the studio is probably busy doing a command and conquer remaster. If I remember right it's a relatively small studio so they have limited manpower to work on things.
@@HerrLindstrom are you sure that they are working on C&C? As far as I know, the studio is conformed by old C&C devs but EA still has the rights to C&C, so even if they want, I dont think they can develop it. I might be wrong though.
@@dimka9448 I was totally wrong. Petroglyph studio already made the command and conquer remaster (since 2020) well before The Great War: Western Front came out. However I was not wrong on them working on another game. That project is called Earthbreakers
The team knows the community will make it better just like there still alive empire at war game community keeping it alive with mods while they did small patches that is a good ones
id love to see cavalry becasue even in ww1 they still played a large part in how warfare worked
Indeed, their raids were invaluable.
Eh... yes but not in that way. Cavalry weren't the mass charge and formation kind of guys that they were in previous wars. At least not on the western front.
Yes but for the first couple of months. As soon as the Germans started up them Maxim's they weren't anymore
For like half a year. WW1 killed the use of horse warfare.
Tbh they had unused potential
You never fail to deliver. Just this past weekend I was thinking about this game and whether it's a good idea to pick it up yet.
Enjoy ma man! :)
Deffo dont, its awful haha
It's an absolutely hollow and shallow experience marred by overtly simplistic mechanics, core systems, awful path-finding, and terrible unit behavior, just to name a few of its many, many issues. If it's on sale and available for a few bucks then pick it up for sure, otherwise absolutely not. It's a middling game at best via a steep discount and a bad one at worse at full price.
This video makes me wonder if they sponsored it. No one in their right mind would heap this amount of praise on this utter disappointment if that were not the case.
This game had potential but they dropped patching it. AI needed to be more difficult. Strategic decisions needed to have more impact. Etc. Etc. Too bad it probably didn't sell enough.
Very good video! Would love to hear more about the custom campaigns that are being developed too. I bought The Great War: Western Front when it was released but due to my huge backlog of games have not given it the attention it deserves yet, shamefully. I wonder if the developers will create The Great War: Eastern Front at some point in the next few years...now that would be epic.
6/10 is a good conclusion.
One of the most disgustung things are the fact you have to buy new equipment on a map you fight even before as attacker f.e. Trenches remain but not ur MGs or artillery batteries.
So u have to waste ur supply again :/ No logic here.
And like u said, the researchpoints are also damn limited as well.
And this terrible patfinding. Costs you entire squads because the wobble wobble arround trench entrances and becomes shot :/ Or run about open field insteat of using trenches.
This game has a lot of potential but it has still its problems..for a long time already.
It's very good, but needs polish and further development that it doesn't seem likely to get.
I played the demo when it came out and was excited but lost that appeal when it launched. I tried it out and just couldn't enjoy it anymore so I refunded it. I think it's best to get it on sale.
Never thought I'd see former Westwood Studios switch from the base-building formula they are so known for to a Total War formula.
Also... love that you used Battlefield 1 theme, probably the best Battlefield game ever made.
Wish it’d looked more realistic like the Napoleon’s The Great War mod.
Overall I was quite impressed with the game. I would agree that the gameplay can get quite repetitive but I think it captures the feel of the Western Front in WW1. I think it has potential and would give it a 7/10.
I think that the biggest thing is that historical accuracy is winning a bit too much over great gameplay.
I absolutely adore the soundtrack, the art, and they've nailed the atmosphere and gameplay for what it should be being a WW1 game.
Would love to see just more polish or a multiplayer campaign as you said. Not sure if the devs are done with it but a second iteration of this game could do wonders. I sincerely hope they consider this successful enough to keep going or revisit in the future as we need more games like this.
i liked ur presentation sold me on it LoL, but it's at a steep sale of $12 or Victory Edition for $14 Bucks compare to the actual Price Tag. And there's only one other WW1 game i played "Battle of Empires : 1914-1918" maybe others out there but pretty content for what this game offers.
btw - when do we see a Star Wars - Empire at War II? Imagine how cool this could be with the new game mechanics and graphics
The lack of support by the dev stopped me from picking it up. It has potential
Id say the game is very well worth it. A.I is decent compared to current total war, abilities and stuff make sense, overall a fun game.
The major issues are that the devs kinda just up and left the game.
Id say 8/10 overall
Steam has it on sale 55% off....$15.79
I've decided to pull the trigger on it and a few other games before the sale ends Thursday
Seems like it has a ton of potential, but weirdly unfinished. I mean imagine the other theaters that could be added, in addition to the flaws you pointed out here.
I can't find any news from the devs since August 2023, so are they just hush-hush, or did they abandon the game?
I'll probably wait until either the devs offer more support, or the modders really change things up somehow. It definitely has potential though.
its very fun and great with mods, played it last year very often.
EMPIRE AT WAR GROUND EDITION!
Does anyone remember Historyline 1914-1918? In the US also known as The great War.
Actually, I heard this game is lackluster and left for dead....
Um... they DO have map evolution...
how much have you played the game? You can easily find that out just by fighting in the same region twice.
Thats been in the game since launch :/
Is there? I played plenty, there’s some seasonal evolution but map escalation or actual persistence from one battle to the next doesn’t exist yet no? Maybe I’m mistaken
@@TheTerminatorGaming
Definitely mistaken.
On maps where you've already fought (possibly auto resolved as well but I'm unsure) the map will have less grass, more mud, etc.
I think it goes up to like 3 levels per map.
@@spiffygonzales5160I believe you are correct. In my first attack on a region there were buildings between my trenches and the enemy’s. When I attacked the same region a second time the buildings were severely damaged.
What's the maximum amount of machine guns that you can set up in your trenches?@@TheTerminatorGaming
I recall this game being horribly optimized when it launched. I never got far.
The soldier from the thumbnail is from Isonzo - a great WW1 video game, give a shoutout to that game, tsk tsk
this game seems abandoned, the community has made quite alot of similar suggestions to improving the game.. last update was a while ago , it becomes quite boring after a while, quite repetitive, a cool thing would be if you took over trenches and kepted them into the next fight or season
Probably didn’t sell well
Just picked it up in the Spring sale so far not the an esay game to get to grips within the 2hrs return window with a steam product . I would have prefered it to have start from day one of the conflict in 1914 instead only after the Germans advance was stalled by the French , then only after the Race to the Sea and the start of the Trench building.
It would have been nice to see the War of movment and advance become stagnation and slaughter that it became.
So far I find it intresting though I have only managed the training lessons and I really need to go back over some of that.
Hopfully with support and mods it can become a bigger RTS game set in WW1. A war that was total madness in its killing of Men of all the Nation who took part.
Just take Verdun in 1916 somthing like 260.000 Frenchmen killed or wonded for the Germans 230.000 roughly it is said that the Germans lost the War at Verdun in 1916. Saying that it still last almost two more years and those losses just grew bigger and bigger.
Still this is just a game.
Got it for 14 dollars haven’t played it yet but I think it will be good 👍
Any updates on this in the past 6 months? Looks intriguing but has that potential pitfall of always being able to beat the AI. Thanks.
nope.
"Now i Found A Game Me And My Older Brother Might Just Like...Thanks Anyway."(asking price maybe sauer...)
TL;DR THIS IS NOT A TOTAL WAR GAME.
This game is NOT a Total War game for many reasons. It lacks to scope and scale of a Total War game, it lacks the historical accuracies and variety that Total War games have. You can't manage cities and the economy, there are no agents or individuals you can use to influence the campaign. Pretty much all the units in the game share the same stats regardless of nation. You end up fighting the same battles over and over and over again. It becomes a bore fairly quickly. We've seen a lack of updates from the devs. No modding support for the community who would actually fix this game. I was very excited to see a WWI RTS game coming out and it ended up being a dud.
Have you been paid to do this review? It had a lot of potential but what we got was not what was described. You can't say this game is brilliant 😢
Haha I was not paid no. Its brilliant I think in many ways but as I said in the review there are areas where it needs polish and refinement. Stability being a prime example. Its the best of what’s out there for WW1
Gotta disagree. Played the game since it's come out. It's great.
@@TheTerminatorGaming I love your channel btw, big supporter :)
The animations are shocking, all the units have the same animations when leaving or entering a trench, some units fight, others freeze and just stand there waiting for the next 1 on 1 combat. The battles look repetitive and boring. The artwork is poor, the mechanics are poor.
The game had monumental amounts of potential and I was monitoring it from early on, but upon release it was a right mess.
Very samey and very repetative. I would price the game at £10. I think that would be fair for the content.
Keep making vids pal, always enjoy them :)
@@TheTerminatorGamingdo you play men of war series? I think Battle of Empires is pretty good. It's basically like Men of War Assault Squad 2 but in WW1.
Have you played Supreme Ruler the Great War?
I love how you used music from Battlefield 1, such a good game
Ngl, I mainly listened to that sweet BF1 soundtrack.
Kidding! Great vid as always mate
It's a pity they used such a cartoony aesthetic. It looks like a mobile game - realism would've made the game super cool.
I would have bought it if the devs had sticked to it...
I want this
Good job.
I wanted to like this game but there is just this weird feel to it. I can't put my finger on it but it has a mobile game feeling. It's like they wanted to have the possibility of a mobile game.
I never bought this game becuse as far as i've seem in other review's the strategic campaign Lacks Depth. I mean, theres no manpower resource? So yours and enemys division will always have soldiers? That kills the point of the attrition warfare. Also wheres ammo? If you encicle the enemy and them attack you fight a battle the same way if they were not encircled? I could pass having to attack the same trenches evem if i won a previus battle, but with those BIG red flags this game does not attract my attention...
Command and conquer you said....
Title is a little misleading. Might wanna change it brochacho.
there are people that play dota 2 and league of legend ... so it's not repetitive ....
It pains me to say it, but this game is on the verge of becoming an abandonware. Devs have been almost non existent on the forums and their website since months now.
This is brilliant! 6/10, haha.
Repetitive and tedious. Not worth the effort.
Bf1 music lol
Gamers ask for realism. game devs GIVE realism. Gamers complain. nobody wants a game where you need to shit once a day and your feet heart
Amateurs study logistics etc etc…..
"when playing a defensive battle, arty is incredibly overpowered"...no. That's THE POINT. It is basically a game that doesn't "balance". I shouldn't be able to kill a guy with 2 .45 rounds but I need 8 AK rounds b/c of "balance". This is a WWI game. It was a stupid war. Arty and MGs were king. If you get caught out in the open you die. If you remove this reality to make it more "game fun" then you remove the entire purpose of its existence. This game serves a niche fan-base, but for those of us who love it...we love it b/c if I send an assault w/o properly suppressing the enemy arty, I'm gonna lose the assault force. Cuz that's facts.
It's an absolutely hollow and shallow experience marred by overtly simplistic mechanics, core systems, awful path-finding, and terrible unit behavior, just to name a few of its many, many issues. If it's on sale and available for a few bucks then pick it up for sure, otherwise absolutely not. It's a middling game at best via a steep discount and a bad one at worse at full price.
This video makes me wonder if they sponsored it. No one in their right mind would heap this amount of praise on this utter disappointment if that were not the case.
Just bored of all these WWI and WWII games man when the squel coming out to WWII? Been almost 100 years wtf.
looks shitty