Peter Parker vs Otto Octavius in the movie Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
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I like how Octavius finds out that Peter, as far as he's aware, invented a nanomachine suit and his reaction is basically just "Neat. Anyway, back to the stabbing."
Given Ottos technological Standards that meant for him that Peter finally caught up to his tech level. But Starks AI is a bit more advanced then that hehe He had no way to know just how advanced Stark tech is until the AI took over his Arms
"The power of the sun, in the palm of my hands."
What took Otto likely years of work with millions of dollars of funding, Tony Stark managed to make in less time (give or take,)
with no money,
in a cave,
with a box of scraps.
@@bababooey5402 i think Otto focused more time on the Arms then the Fusion Generator. Heck the Arms alone would make him quickly the Richest person in the World if he would go commercial with them.
Octavius's device had to be more energy dense, maybe even by orders of magnitude. It didn't just fuse a bit of hydrogen together, the machine was intended to cage an entire micro-star that was self-sustaining once activated. I would bet money that Tony would take one look at Otto's machine and call him a crazy son of a bitch for essentially trying to put a star in a box.
He’s a researcher that just designed a machine that constructs nuclear fusion in room temperature and spared the need for vacuum. So yeah, nano suit is not beyond his field of science.
The fact that Doc Ock's character design was from 2004 and still not only holds up, but remains one of the coolest villain designs ever 2 decades later is astounding.
All of the raimi designs pull it off, it's wild. The only changed raimi design in this movie (goblin) was unnecessary but it made sense story wise and made the character a lot better. Great film
@@Jiub_SN Otto didn't have a turtleneck sweater on though
Dr. Octopus has been a comic staple since the 1960s
Venom
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0:49 "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand". Goosebumps when he said that. Childhood me going crazy.
Tell me about it when I heard him first say that I was like no freaking way 😱😱
He said it's gone like he meant it litteraly lol
I was in theaters the first time he said "No! Listen to ME!" and the entire theater went absolutely nuts
My gosh I like fan service but that was a but much
Ironman : mini nuclear reactor
Dr octavio : sun reactor suit
Doc Ock is not without Alfred Molina. He nailed this role in 2004 and again in 2021. That's just amazing!
Correctamundo!
He’s still got it love it it’s like he came right out of spider man 2
Looks like we've got competition😅
1:23 “You think your fancy new suit’s gunna save you?”
*That awkward moment when his fancy new suit saves him*
Ock be like: o-o
You can see that moment, right here 3:47
4:32 (tries to fight Peter while his tentacles are hacked) Gotcha
Tony really still be saving Spidey even in death :')
The MCU equivalent of "let's see you scurry out of this."
I love how Peter laughs as he gains control of Octavius' metal tentacles. Like a child with a new toy.
Right? He deserves to have a laugh after what he's going through!
@@wiinterflowers4277 To me it seemed way too childish, they ruined Ock in this scene. Bluetooth device connected is just too lame
@@emilxert what lame??? It is stark tech, it is miles ahead of anything ock has and he knows it very well himself(Tony made the power source that ock yearned all his life for in a cave with scraps). Of course it can over ride the tentacle ai which is way primitive compared to ai utilized by stark suits.
@@kkp8538 that’s not the point. The way they wrote this scene as Bluetooth connected is lame, they made Ock look like clown or as Goblin said “a lap dog”
@@emilxerttechnically ock is not even a fighter, in a straight up fight Spidey can KO him in one hit even while holding back since he has no protection and is just a regular human. This fight made way more sense than spider-man 2 fights because Spidey never got a chance to get a direct punch in aside from that one kick to chest because he was distracted saving civilians and the only times ock got him was when he was saving others. In spider-man 2, despite it being a good movie it is stupid how ock easily survives multiple close up punches from Spidey back to back to the face with Little to low damage, this fight makes way more sense.
Despite its simplicity, Octavius' suit manages to hold its ground against a suit that encompasses the best of all Tony's inventions. This shows how far Octavius was ahead of his time in his universe
Well the iron spider suit had a lot of good stuff turned off
Because Tony learns from his mistakes
Outside of the spider arms and controlling new tech. The majority of the suits functions were disable. There’s a brief scene before this scene when we look through the helmet. It shows sooo many things offline. Pretty sure Damage control was the cause of this by taking Stark stuff in the beginning
Or it’s plot armor
So advance that it got hacked by Tony's tech easily.
*3:57** - "You're not Peter Parker."*
A line so powerful. The moment when Otto realizes he's not Tobey's Peter (Peter 2).
If I were Peter I would say: "Try flip me up"
When Otto said "You're not Peter Parker from Spider-Man 2 (2004)", I really felt his emotions
No shit genius
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p marvel fan uses simple deductive reasoning
I always thought how can the villains not tell by the tone of their voices behind the mask
“Ma’am you okay, c’mon you can still make your flight”
The fact he was still concerned on her making it to the airport in time is so Spider-Man.
True
This is why it baffles me when people say Tom's portrayal "Isn't Spider-Man"
@@ShadowKamehameha32 Same bro
His tie is in that scene despite having been ripped/damaged when stabbed by Doc Ock.
@@ShadowKamehameha32 He's probably the best of the lot..especially playing a young, teen Spiderman.
I love when Doc Ock rips off some of Peter’s nano-machines and they start spreading through his arms, he doesn’t even consider that they might be hacking his tech. Lol. He’s just like, “Oh, new red finish? Nice.” I guess he really is from the early 2000’s.
I think he understood what the tech was fundamentally but underestimated the potential Stark technology (especially the AI) had. His arms have their own intelligence so he didn't expect them to be the victims of a hostile takeover
It’s not just red it’s a little “HOTROD RED”.
@@ohio That's my point. People in the early 00's didn't even think about that possibility. When they saw a pop-up that said "Install this plug-in and double your internet speed!" they believed it, and 2 days later their computer was infected with 200 different kinds of malware. These days, everyone is walking around with aluminum encased wallets because they're worried someone is gonna try to hack the chip in their credit card using scanners.
@@ohio He's a visitor from future Kang's universe.
@@runtergerutscht4401 I was just thinking when I saw this scene in the theater, if he was fighting Iron Man instead, the whole thing probably wouldn't last 10 seconds. Stark could probably take all four villains on and still come out on top easily.
1:49 looks like we got competition
My most favorite Doc Ock quote
Better odds.
Eight against eight! A spider 🕷️ and an octopus 🐙
That arm was like wtf 😂
3:26 One of the best line in this scene to remind us how Genius Octavius was. He knows what’s Nanotech in just a seconds.
He definitely should’ve recognized it but his reaction shouldn’t have been “oh wow Peter this is pretty neat” it should’ve been “How the fuck did you get make this” because the nanotech from his timeline is no where close to what Stark made and from his perspective Peter made this by himself
It was something that Osborn had researched, which Peter 2 wrote a paper on. So it was a thing in that universe. But likely not as advanced as this Peter's suit.
I like how when Peter starts controlling the tentacles with the nanotech in his suit, the movie was mature enough not to do the “quit hitting yourself” thing.
Aww cmon you can’t tell me that wouldn’t of been a little funny 😆
@@connorcmsmith4302 it would have also have fit perfectly with this version of Peter, taunting his enemies enough but not to the point where it’s to much.
Come on that woulda been funny af
*STOP HITTING MY FIST WITH YOUR FACE!*
~Spiderman shattered dimensions.
But it was not mature enough to be so meta about Dr Octopus's name...
Everyone talks how about how great the Peter/Goblin apartment fight is (and it’s great) but this fight rocks too. Brilliant use of the environment, with the fight starting on the bridge, moving onto the road sign and ending underneath the bridge. Having the hostage situation helps raise the stakes and also gives the fight an extra element than just 2 characters smashing each other. Plus the characters actually talk throughout the fight so you still remember these are real people and not just CGI/stunt men.
Lol the bridge you talking about...That's literally the whole package of Spiderman thing.
What bullshit
Actually the part where hostages are put in fights is a means to equalize the fighters, because Ock would have a hard time against Peter if he wasn't distracted constantly.
It's always the same. Hulkbuster Ironman vs Hulk, Avengers vs Ultron in Sokovia, Avengers vs Loki in NY...
Hostages don't raise the stakes, they level the playing field.
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that dumb woman really locked herself in the car. Literally just flip the switch up and open the door. The car was in prefect shape when she was locked, so there's no malfunction excuse.
1:41 I love this part, Doc Ocks line is cold and Peter genuinely sounds threatened
I'm surprised they put that in the movie. That type of seriousness and brutality has been lacking. Even tho I love Tom's spiderman
@@alexotey7035hardly a surprise. Its pg-13 not U
@@BurntBattleBagel lol, and what you don't understand is that line doc Ock said hasn't been really been said in that manor since the same rami spiderman movies. Doesn't matter the rating.
Peter 1 thinks Ock was talking about Zendeya MJ. Ock meant Mary Jane. Peter 2's girlfriend
Tom's Peter thought Ock was talking about Zendeya MJ. But Ock meant Kirsten Dunst's MJ.
I was so excited when Doc ock absorbed the nanotech to upgrade his arms. I thought he was gonna keep the upgrade. Also, I love how he recognizes nano tech even though it doesn't exist in his universe, but he knows it's possible. It shows how smart Otto Octavius is.
Lol his tentacles are also nano tech
Nanotech does exist in his universe.... did you forget Peter's line when he met Norman in Spider-Man 1? "I read your paper on nanotechnology." Also, in _Spider-Man 2_ Octavius mentions he has nanowires running throughout his tentacles.
the most unrealistic thing in this entire movie is how hard it is for her to get out of that car
You'd be surprised how hard things tend to be in a state of panic.
@@TycipreyllThirhe She literally pulls a Peter Griffin, " I locked myself in the car cutaway joke."
My car auto-locks when the key leaves the car. If you try to unlock it from the inside it just re-locks the door. You can still get out if you're fast enough or if you're dexterous enough to hold open the locking mechanism at the same time you open the door, but I'd imagine that would be extremely hard in a life or death situation like this.
The rear driver's side door was useable for a long time until it got smashed. If she could open and hit the wall with the passenger side door then she could have opened the driver's side door. This is like the joke about the guy who drowned when the pick up truck he was riding in went into a lake. He could not get the tailgate open
From my experience with baby locks it can be surprisingly difficult to leave a car
@2:29 as much as I love the practical effects from Spider-Man 2 we never got to see Ock go full tilt given the limitations at the time. Absolutely love the shot of Ock just demolishing everything
Cgi has it’s own advantages.
Even on the train in SM2 he wasn’t nearly as brutal as here, especially when he whipped Spidey around and smashed him through the bridge
@@the1theonlyg248 he smashed Tobey within the whole subway rails, hit panels head on on full speed and a train at full speed, still came back
CGI may not have the same realistic element of practical effects, but it also has greater flexibility and more unique ways of movement
I love how this Peter doesn't kill his foes, second chances and all that. One of the reasons in the comics his enemies keep on coming back is because he believes they can redeem themselves so he doesn't use his full strength on them, when Doc Ock took over Peter's body he accidentally broke Scorpions jaw ( who is apparently supposed to be physically stronger than Spidey ) and stated that Peter could have killed him with his strength many times over when he had the chance to.
How did Octavius react to learning that? I know he decided to become the Superior Spider-Man, and be better than Peter, but what was his initial reaction? I remember that he was pretty egotistical in the comics, so I can’t imagine that he took learning how much Peter always held back well. That would imply that Peter never took him seriously.
@@coltonwilliams4153 its one of the reasons he tried to be the superior spider man. Because was being a good person since otto lived his life. Although after that point he became narcissistic about being better.
Spiderman cannically is one of the absolute physically strongest Super Heroes. Only beaten by the likes of Superman, Aquaman and a few others. Its fantastic knowing he could easily kill his Opponents but that would mean going down on their Level so he rarely does it :P
@@Y0G0FU You can see some of that in the MCU. When Cap and Bucky fought, they were fairly even physically, Bucky's robot arm might have had a strength advantage. When Bucky fights Spidey, Peter catches that robot arm and is unthreatened by it to the point he was more in awe of the tech than any danger it posed. He just casually overpowered Bucky like some dad wrestling with his 7 year old.
We only see Spider go HAM in the movies like twice. Once when Tobey fought Harry Osborn under the effects of the Venom suit. Second when Tom Holland fought Goblin at the end of this movie. MCU Spider was about to red mist Osborn if he hadn't been stopped.
I had no idea spiders were so strong. Such good luck no bad guy got bitten by that radioactive arachnid.
1:53 Whoever thought about having Peter and Otto fight each other with their back-mounted “arms/legs” deserves praise…
I can only imagine the gratitude in Sam Raimi's heart when he saw this scene for the first time.
He was happy with it
Im sure sam raimi was very proud of this whole scene. Everything about it just screamed early 2000's superhero fighting
No, he wasn’t happy. Because Raimi made films that had cinemas. Jon Watts and MCU only make films written by 5-year-old children who would like to take themselves seriously but thanks to these scenes they become just garbage. not to mention the idiocy of this movie which is just a bunch of bullshit one after another. Childish jokes, just fanservice. Too bad they forgot to write a story. But by now all MCU movies are like that. Only those two crappy Justice League movies come close to this NWH crap
@@enricoturla5644 I think it may have been you who wasn’t happy, not Raimi
You guys are talking like Sam Raimi didn't direct the disaster that doctor strange MoM was
The fact that Doc Ock was able to go toe to toe with the iron spider suit this well really helps to further illustrate how much of a badass Tobey’s Spider-Man was.
I guess. The issue with Doc Ock is that he really shouldn't be able to take a punch. Spiderman is super strong and fast compared to normal humans. Doc Ock has the arms that are strong and fast so they can keep up, but the rest of his body is normal middle-aged academic. If Spiderman punches him in the face or hits him with anything that isn't intercepted by the tentacles, he should get real hurt, real quick. There is a segment in Spiderman 2 where Doc takes one on the jaw from Tobey while they're fighting up the side of a building or something. Ock should have been out like a light or have the tentacles taking over or something. But it was like nothing happened. Knocked me right out of the movie.
Ditto a character like Kingpin who is at the top of baseline human strength, but not super strong. Kingpin needs to beat Peter with strategy or henchmen or something, because he can't go toe-to-toe in a one-on-one. There's at least one scene in the comics where Peter kicks the ever-loving crap out the Kingpin because the Kingpin crossed the line with Peter's family.
@@jeffthebaptist3602 Sure. That’s just one of those things you either can get over or can’t. Suspension of disbelief and all that.
@@iambuhlockay8007 wouldn't be very interesting if they let Spider-Man just beat him up super quick and be done with it
@@jeffthebaptist3602 it was never mentioned in the films but is in the comics that Peter always pulls his punches when fighting human-strength characters like Doc Ock so chances are he's doing the same here.
@@jeffthebaptist3602 In Spiderman 2 Ock falls off a skyscraper at one point and ends up fine. I'm convinced the avident gave him at least some durability because an ordinary human could never have survived that.
If Peter didn't had the Iron Spider, he would have gotten kill. It completely makes sense, since Octopus was the toughest enemy of the old, wise Tobey
So Bluetooth saved her
Exactly in the comics he even defeated hulk!
Michael Giacchino is a musical genius.
He recreated Danny Elfman's Doc Ock theme from Spider-Man 2 but gave it more of this eerie build-up to when Peter and Otto actually meet face to face.
Agreed themes are everything 🎶
When Peter uses his own mechanical arms, I love how Doc Ock says “looks like we have competition” 😂 it’s just so smooth
The left arm also does not look away from Peter. Almost like the arms themselves are not pleased they aren’t the only ones anymore
Yeah actually the whole point of doc ock is the arms have taken over
@@jacobpharis6466 Oh believe me , I’ve seen all SM movies lol
"This punk thinks he's all that, we'll show him!"
bro the left one was left flabergasted
Right! It’s like they hiss. Super cool small details.
Notice how the "tentacles" are very fast an hit everything with force, but when Peter takes control, they become slow and grab things gently.
I think not being insane or artificial intelligence built for one task and one task only linked to an insane person.
Also the governor chip for Doc Ock's tentacles was damaged. So they hit with too much force and their AI essentially backs up into Octavius's head through the neural link causing Ock's psychosis.
They're connected to Oct's brain and are programmed to move at the speed of his mental reflexes as if they were his literal limbs.
@@TimaeusEXE they also took over his brain cause the chip gto fried by hsi machines energy spike so there contorling him and moveing of there own will with him as the control center rememebr they are talking to him in hsi mind eall4 are diffrent voice in his mind
also peter got control of the tentacles so he might just be trying to be careful
A cool detail is that when the limbs are controlled by Otto, they move around idly even when not being actively used, like real limbs. Even when you’re not doing anything it’s unnatural to be absolutely still. But when Peter’s interface takes over the limbs they freeze stock still except when being actively moved, more robotic like. As it’s not a brain controlling it but a device. Cool attention to detail.
Well, the thing about that is that Otto didn't have control of the tentacles. They just gave him the impression of control. When he does get control of them later in the movie, you see that they act more calmly and almost welcoming.
One big problem is that the only way He would be able to pick anything heavy up in the first places is if the arms themselves generated an upward force equal to or greater than the force of gravity on his body & suit. This is the only possible way it would work, because otherwise anything too heavy will still crush his back. With precision like that, he should be able to fly, but he doesn't. The only other way he would be able to pick heavy things up is if arms were angled like a human arm where the elbow is anchored to thr table during an arm wrestle.
@@JosiahFickinger I mean the arms are attached to a metal brace on his back, so the force generated by the arms would go into the brace, it must be immensely strong to withstand such weight forces and not just collapse and kill him.
Other depictions like in Into the Spiderverse are even worse! Girl Ock’s arm suit doesn’t even have a brace, just a simple suit attached to her that would 100% not dissipate any of the force and would certainly kill her if she lifted anything heavy.
@@princeytron I guess that's true, but the force would still press him into the floor, regardless if there was a back brace. At that point, it won't be the back that collapsed, but everything below. Gravity still works. He would have to have a full-body reinforcement down to his feet in order for it to still work.
@@JosiahFickinger Yeah I agree, I just mean at the very least they have a comic-y “explanation” for why it works. But the physics definitely don’t work. If he lifts anything, the weight goes into his brace, but the brace is still attached to his back, that just means the brace now weighs just as much as whatever he’s lifted, right? And all that pressure is put on his body.
I guess *maybe* if his other arms have lifted him off the ground and are on the floor, the weight could be taken by the lower arms and not directly on his body?
Either way, at the very least it’s a hugely dangerous dice roll every time he tries to do anything that could easily just snap him in half. Or rip the nodes out of his spine in a very violent manner.
But yeah, you’re right, he’d need everything below the brace to be literally indescribable to be able to use the arms effectively.
Especially if he’s actually standing with his feet on the ground. At the very least he usually lifts himself up by his arms when lifting to take some of the weight off, but really he’s gambling heavily with every move he makes.
It is fun reading into the physics behind marvel/DC powers and abilities. Especially the tech-based ones. Cuz with magic and powers and whatnot you can always say “well his ability just negates that consequence” which is boring but fair enough. But the tech based ones are less able to hand-wave away. You really just have to rely on your suspension of disbelief.
And honestly i can do that, even if realistically the arms wouldn’t work as they are shown, I can still enjoy the character and his powers y’kno?
Like for example there are many situations where doc ock jumps rediculous distances and catches himself and just ignores the laws of conservation of momentum!
Like remember the train scene from SM2? Where he leaps from the super fast train onto a building and just… lands on a building, utterly fine. Even if the train was stationary, the leap itself was huge and fast, stopping that quick would do untold damage to his squishy meat suit even if the arms and brace would withstand the pressures. And with the train moving at immense speeds? Not only the momentum of the leap itself but the fact that he’s going from moving at god knows how fast to immediately stopping. Those forces together would have sheered him in half no question. But he just shrugs it off.
It’s almost like these tech based heros get a certain kind of plot-based invulnerability. Like Iron Man. He can be hit with tremendous forces and be completely fine. And it’s just explained by “oh his suit is super high tech and can protect him” but physical laws of momentum still exist! If he’s going at ludicrous speeds and suddenly stops by being hit, sure the suit itself could withstand it, but his squishy meat self would be thrown against the inside of the suit and turned into paste! It requires legit sci-fi inertia dampeners or something.
But again, suspension of disbelief. I can ignore the fact that realistically it wouldn’t work if it makes a good story/character.
The only times I get genuinely annoyed is when the writers make the rules and character but then break their own rules and set character motivations, then there’s no excuse really.
3:13 "I promise I've got this all under control."
*proceeds to take control of Doc Ock's arms*
Peter, you're a hero...its almost like people don't know he helped fight Thanos and saved the universe, lol.
They don’t, it’s shown in ffh that the mainstream media only celebrated the deceased like ironman, cap(technically not dead but you get the point) and vision.
Acutally all Spider did in the 2 Movies (Directly against Thanos)
Was Kick him around until Thanos Grabbed him down, and try to pull the Gauntlet.
In Endgame He just protected the Gauntlet.
@@Samuello2024 bro he still helped tho and he wasn't recognized by the world
they are not the audience like us. their context is a lot more limited and can be deceived
@@barisbal7782 in wandavision, somehow they knew that Wanda was about to beat Thanos and captain marvel also nearly defeated Thanos
Look at his amazing multitasking skills. He fights, analyzes, and rescues all at once! Peter Parker is awesome
🔥🔥
This is the most Spider-Man thing I've seen Spider-Man do in his times beings Spider-Man ever
1:44 was a epic scene
Agreed
The "fancy new suit" really did save him 😅
Exactly
The fact the film was better than I thought it was going to be is amazing, I was expecting a wild movie, and they delivered just that.
It's a meaty piece of entertainment, many layers deep the enjoyment can go. I can attest to a truly awesome reaction in the theater, people were captivated. Comic films have room to grow and be something even the most cynical couldn't have seen coming.
One of the best things about this dude is that he never takes credit for himself when he uploads something. He always respects us, the audience, and he is always full of energy in his videos. Keep up the hard work!!! ❤❤
Layers of fan services. Thus is not a meaty or deeply movie.
Nah it’s a pretty rushed movie that clearly needed saving from Covid so they brought in nostalgic cameos to replace the lack of a movie. The entire premise is absolutely idiotic, especially after what they’ve all gone through.
@@TheSCPStudio yeesh, talk about a party-killer
Definitely blew my expectations away. I just watched this movie like a week ago and was surprised that I slept on it so long. Can't really be blamed with every marvel movie getting called "#1 in the world" and then it's just another sharted out marvel phase 4 flick.. this movie might have been a fan service, but it went above and beyond to do things right
Omg love his cute laugh when Peter knows he's in control 😂😂😂
4:17-4:21 😆
It's basically 2018 nanotechnology vs. 2004 nanotechnology.
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Doc Oc: *Sees Spider-Man’s 4 Arms*
Doc Oc: “We got competition!”
Hey, better odds. Eight against eight. A spider 🕷️ and an octopus. 🐙
I like how the movie appreciates how strong doc ock is. He had Peter in checkmate
If wasnt for the nanotecnology suit, Peter would die penetrated in his chest. Iron mas saved again Peters life
@@williansantos1919to be fair, he was busy saving people at the same time.
@@turbotrup96 doesn't matter kkkk
Iron man saved his ass again.
@@williansantos1919 And Aunt May saved Maguire's...
@@turbotrup96 klkklkkk no. Its diferent. Tobey probably would have his spider sense. Holland spider is a kid afraid of everything. A weak spider by the way. Always needing stark technology
I love how he was the very first villain shown off. Technically goblin was by the bomb in the trailer but when the first trailer dropped, I thought this was another Doc Ock in Tom Holland’s universe played by the same actor from the 2004 movie and that he’d be the main villain of the movie. But then the second trailer dropped and Strange explained how the spell brings in people from other universes so that’s when I got hyped. And then when watching the actual movie, when I heard Doc say “the power of the sun in the palm of my hand,” “you’re not Peter Parker” and telling strange that he knew a Peter Parker as spider man but it wasn’t Tom, that’s when I knew they brought back the same character from 2004 & that got me excited to see Tobey’s return. good stuff, this movie is a love letter to all spider man fans, absolute masterpiece
I knew since Alfred Molina said that he would be digitally younger, that it was the same version of the spider man 2 movie
I still remember how hyped everyone was when Doc Ock said "Hello Peter" in the first trailer
I ain’t reading this shit
While I love NWH I still really want them in the MCU at least Norman and maybe even a sinister six
"You're not Peter Parker" drove my wife and I crazy when the 2nd trailer came out, best phrase of 2021
I love how it's all fun and games until Doc threatens his girlfriend, then Peter is like "alright I'm kicking your ass now"
He still got beat up. Only toby mcguire is strong enough to beat doc oc.
Lets be real: The only reason Peter won was due to his nanotech. Without it, he would have been a goner. Really drives home that Tobeys villains are on a whole other level
Iron bitch jr. Never stood a chance
Bro Peter fought Thanos. I think he would find a way
@@silversauceran technically, Thanos was a tie only with "healthy" Thor/Captain Marvel. In terms of one by one fight, Tobey's (or even Andrew's) spiderman is much better than Tom's
I agree, this doc ock was closer to killing Toms spidey than he was closer to killing Tobeys spidey.
@@Lousfwtobey spidey got hands bro 😂
3:24 For a minute I wondered why the Nanobots didn't fix the spot on the suit like it would've with Tony, but then I remembered Tony had Nanobots in his reactor
Oh YES!
it was lacking enough nanobots. u can see the nanobots from his mask take over the hole in his chest
I just noticed the license plate says "63A5M-3." A clear reference to Doc Ock's first appearance in 1963, Amazing Spider-Man #3.
Neat detail!
Amazing Fantasy or Amazing Spiderman? just wondering
@@ZhaoYun320 Amazing Spider-Man.
@@ZhaoYun320 Amazing Fantasy is the book Spider-Man first appeared in. He was the 15th issue. After that book he got his own series and took the Amazing title along with him. Think of Amazing Fantasy as like a pilot for The Amazing Spider-Man comics.
No you didnt notice bro. You saw a video about it lmfaoo
The only times Ock was able to gain the upper hand and tag or wrap up Peter was when he was distracted helping civilians. When he was focused on Ock he was able to match him blow for blow. Of course “arms vs arms” fight was made on purpose here, but Peter showed great SKILLS and the Iron Suit doesn’t increase his strenght or speed. Also...he pulled his punches. Unlike against Goblin in the final fight lol
TBF in that Goblin Fight, May did inject an Antidote that sorta made Goblin a bit weaker, I guess.
@@SMEARGLEX75 Peter pulled punches thru this whole fight cuz while his physical str isnt the same level as Tobey or Andrew he still could knock Goblins head off if he really wanted to. Bro was conflicted the whole movie
@@SMEARGLEX75 the antidote was not complete so i don't think it even did anything
@@sauce6746 lots of people don't know that with his full strength, Peter could decapitate every person he punches.
For context look up Sebas vs. The Six Fingers. That's what would happen to Peter's villains if he fought at full power.
@@Akaritomi Why u tellin me to look up stuff I already know what he capable of lol
1:40 And with this one threat, we see Spider-Man angry for the first time in the trilogy.
I love that the arms each have a individual personality like the top right one is the main alpha arm while top left is the one who kills the enemy and the bottom two transports Otto
I love how a mischievous tone of the Spider-Man theme starts playing when Peter is in control.
Strangely Spider-Man in the comics once befriended the Loki in the comics. They’re both mischievous tricksters who don’t fit in with every one else.
0:39 HESSSS BACKKKKKKKKK!!!!!
Mad Scientist with Tentacles Returns
I've never been a fan of the Iron Spider suit but putting it up against Doc Ock was a smart creative decision. 1:44 that shot us clean asf
Couldn’t agree more on that
4:29 I like how doc ock tried to swung at him with his own arms. In the 2004 film, I never saw him swung once against spiderman
And that's a bad thing how?
@@Breadloaf-kr4gi they never said it was a bad thing??
@@idostuff1803 I just think it's a very misleading and pointless observation. In the extended cut he hit Spider-Man twice
He did, at least in the extended cut. He swung at him when they fought on the wall after he robbed the bank and when Spiderman tried putting him in a sleeper hold/ choked him out during the train fight, elbowed him to break free.
I love how whoever ends up fighting against Stark Technology, Ironman's tech instantly proves to be far superior 4:20 🤣
That's what you get for being an insanely rich billionaire and a genius scientist. Doc Ock and Nourman just don't have that kind of budget
@@ak47epic94 Norman had a massive corporation. As for Doc Ock, he was funded my Henry Osborn. Also, Tony Stark build his first suit in a cave.
I mean, Ottos' tentacles are 2004 tech going against 2018 tech.
Norman and Ock's creations are equally impressive knowing that they came from 2002 and 2004, especially doc ock. If those arms existed in real life, it would be a magnificent first step in robotics.
@@wurmrave6831 what do you mean first step? It would be revolutionary! The first technology to achieve neural connection faster than Elon Musk!
“Peter, you’re a hero”…….he helped saved the entire freakn universe, AND ONLY NOW YOU SAY THAT.
4:35 in a perfect world -
Peter: I'm gonna crush your head now.
I'm glad Alfred Molina got more screen time. I think he was the most charismatic villain of the post 2000 Spider-Man movies, followed by Willem Dafoe.
Is no one else gonna talk about how the professor wasn't smart enough to simply open the other door
It actually takes training to keep a level head in a life or death situation, that is why people get trampled to death in building fires rather than exiting the building quickly but in a orderly fashion. I have had to go through this myself for various trainings as various event organizers since when something major happens those in charge need to be in charge. It is also why at accidents most eye witness accounts are inaccurate since the adrenaline messes with the memory in the heat of the moment.
Or climb to driver seat if the doors were locked from front consol
@@robertsissco2439 It doesnt take training it takes common sense lmao 🤣
@@sauce6746 Normally in situations like this, you would not have the most clear common sense as your heart starts to beats faster and your whole body starts shaking. You will feel danger and worry that something might happen to you. That's what happens to most people especially if it's their first time experiencing a situation like that. Some people are born with strong mental capabilities though.
You say it's common sense since you're not in the situation. And that is why you think more clearly than the person experiencing the situation in the movie.
You'll be surprised by how fight flight or freeze response can do to people
I think it’s great that the writer’s let Peter have a little fun with the nanotechnology hacking Doc Ock’s own tech because we often forget that Peter is still, in fact, a kid. He’s a high school student,
(if I’m not mistaken he’s like 17 or at least recently turned 18 when these events take place) so even though he’s been in a lot of battles and hard situations, he’s still a boy. Yeah Tom Holland irl is in his 20s but the character of Peter Parker in this universe is still just a kid.
what a great feeling u have to get ur internet stuck at 2:49 ☺🦶
I love Tom’s delivery on the “Agh! I am so confused right now!”
Love the way Peter laughs as he uses Doc Ock's arms as a shadow puppet.
A perfect Peter Parker moment
Like kid getting a new toy.
This spiderman sucks, it’s too childish, the stories of this MCU are written by a 4 years old children but you fans of MCU are trained to find the good where there is not.
@@enricoturla5644 would you like to expand on what you mean by childish? I’d be interested in hearing your opinion
@@sherminatoranalysis3429 All you have to do is watch all the Holland movies he plays Spiderman in and you know it. If you want I’ll give you an example:" Let’s go cure some ass". But explain to me what the fuck humor is? That’s what I mean by childish humor. But if you’re a MCU fan you can’t understand, because MCU fans are trained to find good where there isn’t
4:24 I liked it how much Spider-Man controlling the mechanic arms from doctor octopus 🐙 from nanotechnology.
"Hello, Peter."
"Wait, didn't you get impaled by the Hovitos?"
"... what!?"
1:04
Holy sh*t, spiderman is so strong his arms stopped a two ton car and the car had to move vertically because of the momentum.. 👍
3:27 nanomachines, son!
they harden at the response to physical-
Oh wait, it got yoinked.
YOU CAN'T HURT ME, JACK.
They fix the weaknesses of earlier suits in respons to Tony getting stabbed through the belly
@@ccelite3782 You can't hurt me, peter
I still remember the day i saw this in the theatre, once in a lifetime moment, the crowd was just amazing!
4:38 I don’t know why but I just love they way Doc Ock shouts “HEY!” at Peter 😂
Doc Oct is so fire in this scene i dont care what anyone has to say 😂
Interesting that Otto is familiar with some of the technology from Peter's suit, my guess he was probably researching a lot of it, Otto really is one of his universe' best minds.
I love the scene right after this where peter hears “it’s morbin time” and a million bats fly in followed Dr Michael Morbius
One of the best things about this dude is that he never takes credit for himself when he uploads something. He always respects us, the audience, and he is always full of energy in his videos. Keep up the hard work!!! ❤❤
@@supagreatman2826 yes morbius was the best scene and this is totally not a attention seeking robot
@@batmanwithprep yeah but your comment definitely looks like it wants attention
@@supagreatman2826 never heard of Morbius?
@@supagreatman2826 Yes that is the purpose of commenting
I love it when Doctor Otto Octavius broke through the concrete road and his four robotic arms ascended him as he uttered the following lines, “it’s ockin time”
Thai movie had so much potential !! The final fight was so dumb and childish the villains weren’t sinister enough!
Agreed. Raimi films are superior.
Not sinister enough? What you call green goblin Killing aunt may ? Go to sleep kid
@@dragonww8979 yea that was good!! But the other villains remained weak !!!
@@backtothe80s97 electro was so strong in movie to he faced all spidermen together
"This body slam brought to you by UPS." 1:35
What I love most about this fight is that Peter never lands a punch on Octavius (aside from a dismount kick that didn't do any real damage). Showed he was more than capable of keeping up with Peter's spider abilities, forcing Peter to think outside of the box and get a little lucky in the end haha
Thing is, Octopus shouldn't be ABLE to take any of Peter's punches in the 1st place, since he is just a normal, unathletic dude.
This is what has always bothered me about Spiderman 2. I mean, sure, the fight scenes were intense, but they didn't make much sense, especially when Peter was becoming angrier as he kept on fighting, which means he was holding back less and less.
@@turbotrup96 I agree. What makes Spider-Man villains scary is that their tech is able to keep up with Spider-Man's powers. It was nice to see them respect that in this film. No disrespect to Spider-Man 2 ofc
Still my favorite spiderman villain. I love how the actor brought him back exactly as if it still were 2004. This movie is great fanservice.
And it's great that the writers committed to making him speak the same way he would've back in the day.
Peter saying EVERONE GET OFF THE BRIGED he being a good hero
The last great movie in the MCU
I really wish there were more live action Doc Ock fights, they're always so so good
Once he saw the face he was like "what the heck? Who's this Spiderman I've been fighting with? It's not the same Spiderman I fought with in the past"
Aliens? Avengers?
Peter what are you talking about, I'm about to throw a car at you.
"What did you say?" Is the best line in this movie!
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The Number 1 thing that I love about Dr. Octopus the best is that he is a guy with a very good storyline. Who is really fish out of Water and getting to know what the MCU World is Like.
3:59🤣🤣🤣
I love Peter starts fighting harder when Doc threatens MJ. It’s like: *protective boyfriend mode activate*
Yep. Otto unintentionally provoked the wrong Peter Parker too.
Doc ock:I underestimated u
Peter: yea u rlly underestimated me😂
Yeah, the theater was roaring when he turned Ock's tentacles against him.
I like how people argue that the way Doc Ock lost was lame when he was going toe to toe with iron spider beforehand and tossing cars like they were toys before almost straight up stabbing Peter. Peter does hold back when fighting people, but I'd like to point out throughout the whole fight Peter only got a chance to punch Doc once 1:56 and he was too slow. The rest of the time he is blocking and dodging for his life. Otto is from barely out of the 90s New York, wireless was a pretty new thing even if the super hero world has AI and super strength serums, so him not considering bluetooth exists is both smart and really funny. Plus he actually didn't know he was in a more advanced universe, so he/and the arms AI heavily influencing his actions, probably assumed he was familiar with the nano tech.
I think we can assume the world of Spider-man 2 is a bit more advanced giving how he's rocking AI arms that while bleeding tech, are still far more advanced then anything we got now. Their 90's was probably our 2010s.
They had nano tech in Ramiverse. It’s mentioned a few times and I believe even the arms are mentioned to have nano tech. Prolly why they bonded so easily with peters tech. I’d still argue that AI that can control a human is more advanced then the AI in peters suit. Tony needed the mind stone to get sentient AI.
@@strenuousspider9525 they more like influence Ock, he isn’t fully controlled as in the final scene in S2 he regains control. It’s based on his own will. He never understood his own importance and was ridden with guilt over killing his wife on accident. So the AI could easily influence him because he had no willpower to fight back.
Until Peter told him his true value. In this universe they fix the regulator though.
This is my favorite scene, loved the fight & interaction.
This is literally my favorite fight in whole MCU lol.
Even better than the one with TWS on the freeway?
@@danielanderson8322 yes
My favorite Spider Man movie villain, I was so happy to see him! Alfred Molina is such a good actor.
When Otto has full control on the mech arms - white
When the mech arms control Otto - red
When stark tech have control over Otto's mech arms - blue.
These details MCU gave us is so much awesome
I'm starting to wonder who controls them if the eyes are green.
@@jaredruff9823Green goblin
Ah yeah. I remember this. The hype was real
0:37 there he is
0:50 didn’t he destroy it himself tho
1:54 brh
4:24 lol yep
Well it wasn't that long ago. It's not like this movie came out 20 years ago.
0:06 Why are you running? 🫴
I do not talk enough about how the Iron Spider suit is the single best designed costume, functionally and visually, ever.
Personally, I love this movie to bits.But there will be very long time before I come back to this movie.It will most likely when the sequel comes out or Peter can reunite with his friends because the ending was so heartbroken for me.
Some people think Toms spiderman is a mixture of the previous two spidermen. With this knowledge, it's cool how this fight scene is literally a mixture of the past two spiderman. You have doc oc from Tobey's spider man, with the bridge scene from the amazing spider man
This is a lot of fun to watch after Across the Spider Verse
This video have over 6 million yet I can only see 2 comments, what is going on?
They get wiped every so often, to keep shit from taken down
@@gigaus0 💀
That’s how smart Stark is. Even Dr. Ock was surprised by the nano tech.
Pay in kind this 20 years more advanced than Ock is used to
she could of just got out of the other door
Right? Cant she just unlock the door manually?
Movies logic
Maybe the childproof lock was on
Hmmm maybe
It had the locks and even so she would be caught in the middle of spidey and doc ock fighting so I’m sure no one would want that
“The power of the sun in the palm of my hand.”
“You, know I’m something of a scientist myself.”
OMG, the nostalgia!!
Spider-Man - Spidey vs. Green Goblin
Spider-Man 2 - Spidey vs. Doc Ock Train Fight
Spider-Man No Way Home - Spidey vs. Doc Ock Bridge Fight.
My Favorite's.
This is the kind of games I love
I can’t tell you how much I cried/laughed when I saw Otto Octavius his arms pop-up what a legend what a guy