Is This Work Station Worth the MONEY $$$$
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2019
- By far the most expensive work station I have ever seen....but then again, I've never seen any job site work stations like this before. Is it for everyone? No. Is it a time saver, money maker, and tool that can make your job site safer? Yes. I can't say I would have ever believed or bought this set up with out trying it first. I would have been very skeptical. However, after having it on site for a couple jobs now, I can safely say, it is worth it. Is it perfect..no. However, I've never had a tool that was perfect. Take all that with a grain of salt. I had no obligation to create this video, but I know a lot of people messaged me about it. Wanting to know if it was worth the money.
I did not show the table saw being used with the work station, because I left my mounting plate at home, however I honestly believe that part of the tool is what I love most. It's the safest, easiest setup I have managed to find for ripping long length lumber out on site by yourself. So if you want to see the table saw in action on the cut hub go follow my instagram where I will undoubtably use it rrbuildings
The professional version I have runs about $4k, for reference.
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What do you guys think? Would this be useful? Is $4k too much for a tool that helps you be more efficient and safer at the same time? For me, if a tool makes me better and quicker....It's a good investment!
That miter saw very impressive
Yes I’m liking it for sure. Battery has excellent run time and powerful.
It looks like a great addition but for that price I would spend a little more and buy a saw gear setup.
Yes it definitely is better then cutting with a skill saw a guy who built a barn for me made a mitre saw station on an old bale wagon he got from a farmer where he could put a whole stack of 2by4 on it with the telehandler, move the wagon to the part of the building he needed the lumber. Youd have to pull a board off the to the front on to the rollers he put on so the board slide very easily then through the mitre saw to the stop he has set up that was pretty neat also
YOUR JUST A TOOL JUNKIE , LIKE ME
For me, the ideas in ruclips.net/user/postUgkxAfqpMLyFn37qcqUl0FAzqkkycQeXqrhP Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
What the heck does that have to do with the cut hub?
For $4k you could buy a low boy trailer and turn it into a cut station.
My first new Toyota Pickup was $4,300
$4,000 for three aluminum saw horses, yeah what a great deal. I’ll stick with my dewalt miter stand and a tape measure
just two inputs -
1) The legs should fold out and lock without needing to bend over to push the lock in, only when folding it up should you have to unlock and saying that, the lock release could be near bottom of the legs inside so your not bending over
2) The aluminium stop only needs one lock to push down, the back side should just hook over the table
just an opinion on the product :)
My suggestion for version 2.0: an additional fence or a rail to keep long lumber parallel to the fence of your mitersaw. And to prevent from falling down. the second idea is a kind of soft-cover, if you cut painted or sensitve material to prevent from scratches.
This is what would keep me from buying it too. I've had stations with full fence and it's key.
Wow, something that makes Festool seem inexpensive.
I was thinking along that line. Festool can buy the company and not have to raise the price?
These kits start at 1500
Everybody is always looking to get the edge in trying to cut cost and be more efficient . Its a product for production on a large scale
That setup is great on so many levels it's amazing. First thing that comes to mind is a safer way to do your job. And do it better, safer, faster, better cuts, less waste. The list goes on. No question it's a great investment. One thing it's the mark of a pro, not a hack. It's a money maker. For you.
It's a really nice system. I'd love to own...
That being said I see this as a 1500$ system. I don't think I'd be comfortable paying much more than that
The fact that this feature video is now a year old, and I have yet to see this used again in the background of any videos since is a good indication of the practicality of this system.
What are you talking about!! We use it every dang job multiple times
They need a lead-in angle for the leg lock button. There should not be a need to press the button to extend the leg. They need to move the leg frame under the table so the stop can be locked all the way to the ends of the tables. There needs to be friction locks on the table connecting tubes instead of fussy spring loaded bullet pins. The stop needs to be one handed instead of two handed. There needs to be a story board stop setup where you can reposition the stop in 3 or 4 of your most common measurements. There needs to be a dolly of some kind. I think most of us agree that cost needs to be pulled out of the unit to get the price back down in line with the competition.
Jerod Matlock you have some good ideas! I hope cut hub reads the comments
It’s perfect for what you are doing. I have never cried later about cost for a set up I love.
I knew I shouldn't have read any of the comments…
Looks like a great system. Thanks for the thorough review.
Very quality video Kyle. Great job show how the cuthub is useful and improves efficiency. For framing we have built our own mitersaw stand that work quite well and was less than $50 in lumber. The cut hub looks extremely slick to use but I’m sure I could justify the price of it. Thanks again for showing an innovative product Kyle.
In 15 years installing cabinets, I’ve had enough room on a job site to set something like this up maybe 10 times.
I’m sure there are plenty of exceptions but this is essentially an outdoor setup.
Commercial equipment isn’t cheap especially GOOD commercial equipment. If it saves you time and gives you a better finished product then I think it’s worth it.
Define GOOD. Does it mean a saw table that twists and flexes like the cut hub does just from the pressure applied to lock down the saw stop clamps? For 4k I would expect it to be made of thick enough material that was well fitted enough that it does not twist and flex all over like this thing appears to do.
Great job
Damm you get me every time I wanted to look something up seen your new video 20 min later I forgot what I wanted to look up
Awesome video. Great station! Grew up in Minnesota- this video made me feel cold haha and glad I now live in CA.
Really cool stuff
I hate wasting time this is nothing but efficiency Like everything else to do thanks for sharing
Looks like a fantastic setup.
Cant get into it if they are ashamed to list prices on their website. Saw you
said $4k??? Nope, but thanks for the demo
Keith Grey I agree they should have all their pricing on their site..... they need feedback too I suppose.
Wow that’s an awesome set up. Wish I had that when I was in construction many many years ago they would’ve been so helpful
Perfect 👌👌
It's great for a company with a budget to spend. For a small company it's too expensive. Thanks for demonstration Kyle
It’s a sweet setup. Definitely on the pricey end, but no doubt would pay for itself over time provided it holds up. Good catch trying to butt them against each other. He may have already come out with the workaround. Pretty simple fix IMO. Great Video!
Like the setup!
Great tool! Great review!Not worth $4k too a little guy right out of the gate, however I can see the benefits for production work.I also see this becoming easier and faster for you after using it more.
It’s pricey at $4k !!!! Been a long time since I’ve been in the building trades but I’d say that it would pay dividends for someone who builds in the volume and style that you do. You do a great job with your buildings and with you tool reviews. You and your crew seem like great people.
I would love to see an video on your trailer, and your setup.
Your stop extension is probably for extending between these stations too. Looks like a great time saver for framing.
Love it
I like it....ta for the Vid.
Maybe for 1/5 the cost. For that price I'd be scared to leave for lunch
It's got lot of legs.... It can walk away!
Alvin Norris you leave all your tools out? Someone’s going to walk with a saw way before they pack this thing up and walk
Bring your lunch, then you don't have to leave. ;-) Plus you get back to work faster!
Patrick Houser right... Is this a union gig? Who the hell gets to “leave for lunch”? We give guys 30 mins - enough to eat what they brought and take a short break but not enough to ruin momentum for the day. It takes an hour to get back into a rhythm after an hour long offsite lunch.
Tioga Fretworks personally, most days my guy and I don’t take lunch. We take short water breaks throughout the day. About once a week if it works out I’ll take him to lunch somewhere but otherwise our day is spent working.
Given the size of the buildings these guys build I would say any miter/ cutoff station is a must have. I know this was a demonstration on the gravel but I would set it up once on the building slab until the job was done. Like the other commentors I question the $4k price but good tools made in this country are pricey. If you get what you pay for it is a good deal. When I was a machinest I bought Starrat measuring tools. Not inexpensive but very good.
I have been watching these videos and have been impressed by the sheer efficiency of these guys.
I really like this tool. The price for me is a bit high but im not a pro. I will however make a diy version for myself with some t track and a metal tape rule from fastcap. Awesome tool, Fantastic Idea, outta my budget
I suppose until Version 2 comes out, you could use clamps to hold the sections together. Also that area where the stop can't go, you could use the "safety bar" to extent into that area. Nice video. Seems like a good system. R
4k is way too much for "some tables". I know that the price is high because of the development. You could buy a lot of great stuff for 4k. But for sure, its useful!
Fredrik Milder maybe around 12 Festool systainers or a Kapex and 6 systainers.
Framers done need this set up.
Great tool for professional applications.
Looks best for large scale work , like what you deal with in your big metal clad buildings. Other fence/table/stop systems have advantages for smaller scale and finish work.
If it increases productivity, accuracy, safety and saves time it is worth it for a pro builder. The pro builder/owner is clearly who this tool is being marketed to. I like it. You get what you pay for!
Gone are the days of building stands, stools and nonsense. So awesome!
For siders I could see this, but when I'm building a structure I'm usually mobile with saw in hand. A Finnish guy works on flat ground where he can use a pod to hold up long pieces. Even if I had this I'm not sure it would be a good fit for me. I have made a plywoood table and a few extended pieces to hold up my work piece for use with the miter and table saws
lay the square on your board and use it to guide the saw. perfect cut every time.
I am going to see about buying one.
I just hit the big five-oh. I recently bought a DWX723. When my buds see it, they remind me I'm old. This thing looks nice, but too nice for me.
It needs an easier to read scale and multiple flip up but sturdy stop blocks. That way you could lock in multiple measurements for faster production.
I can do the exact same thing with my $200 DeWalt miter saw stand. I do it every day, I'm a trim Carpenter.
your parents must be so proud
I've found a chinese knock off brand ($100 CDN) mitre saw stand with pull out arms, wheels and a friggin power bar. I've thrown it in and out of my van every day for the last 5 years, and only replaced one 60 cent washer. hell, I could get a work van for $4000USD
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4000 lmao 🤣
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i really do like the idea and concept hopefully in few more years price will drop i would definitely be interested
Michael Dokmanian agree
Being only a two man operation $4k is a BIG investment.
At every build we setup our cut station made from wood . I design it to tear down and assemble in about 30min we don't disassemble every day. It stays under a pull out canopy which is attached to the side of my 20-foot trailer that comes out about 20 ft
Whoa. Pricey.
This would be awesome for siding! Any lap siding, would be perfect on this Cut Hub cut station! We cut the same number many times.
Awesome video as always Kyle!
Dude for $4 k it would want to frame the bloody building for me!!! No way!!!
Not efficient in this case at all. Moving lumber is an additional step. Stupid. This would be a good system for siding guys doing LP
Andrew Renner but pulling a tape and marking for every board when you’re making the same board isn’t efficient either. Like he said, it’s a trade-off one way verses the other. The benefit here is the exact length and square ends every time.
Personally for me I install a lot of tongue and groove ceilings. We use a miter saw anyhow to get the job done, so this would be better for my guy’s efficiency.
@@Gottesacker86 with a few 2x4s and 1x6s and the insert from a tape measure you could have the same set up for a couple of hundred dollars or less
pearse mcaleese without the ability to compact it as much. You’re right though.
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I have Fastcap's Best Fence Pro 4. It isn't as durable as the cuthub appears to be but it's gobs cheaper and has an accurate stop that goes right up to the blade. Plus they have new fences without the rear vertical part. Super nice.
I was thinking the same thing about the lock when you put them together, until version 2.0 comes out I would just throw a clamp or two on there, that would keep the two together and it’s always good to have clamps around anyway
I would love to own this miter saw system. The price just seems a little steep i would of never imagined to be that much but besides the price seems like a real innovative product.
I may have to see how much one of these run... I like the setup.
Add a 24 inch guide/template/measuring stick, attached somewhere on the framework so you can zero your mitre saw EXACTLY EACH TIME.........BUT thinking about it, you have to zero everything according to the tape measure you are using that day, be wary of using a dinged tape measure you dropped later in the day or you doing the cuts while your work colleague is shouting out the measurements using a different tape measure, without checking they are giving the same measurement's, other than that any tool that makes you time and money and life easier is worth a look, great review
I like it . it only needs a spacer plate to go over the bars like the table saw lock it .
The biggest thing people are missing is that we don't all make straight cuts on every board. I rarely build pitched foods with straight walls. Stop blocks allow me to square one end then cut an angle on the other side very quickly and accurately. Same goes for super long tji and engineered studs and lvl. If you are building anything other than cookie cutters and especially if you do it in remote places like me, a proper workstations is key. No reason you can't swap out the mitre saw for a cold metal saw if you do all the trades like me. Then move it into your home shop. I still think at this price it needs a full fence though.
I used to think Festool stands were overpriced until I saw this one! Thanks for demonstrating it but it’s a stand with a kinda, sorta, sometimes ruler/stop built in (with an extension that was a truly horrible afterthought). I made my own stand and I agree the efficiency is good, but in my opinion this unit was not well designed. A system with flip stops that can be left set at common measurements and flipped down as required is a whole level higher efficiency. That’s not possible with this unit. Kudos to the guy for giving it a go, but no, this is not a US$4K product. Sorry.
Crazy... I've been looking for something like this but for our rebar cutter..
Hey Kyle love your channel but I have one question for you. Everything you explain about the Cut Hub sounds great except the price of course....all your initial cuts are being referenced off an assumed perfectly square milled end? I never assume that anything is square from the lumber supplier? Any reason your not starting with a perfect square cut that you mill?
Worth mentioning to everyone else... this is the largest most exclusive cut hun package called the "contractors package" there are smaller panchages that don't include all 3.
You’re the best
thats a well organise trailer
Not for me, even if I was still framing full time. Good call on the locking together function. Its range is clearly compromised by the lack of that feature. I like the concept but also see room for improvement, especially at the price point. I like the adjustable legs but feel they could be improved for a more accurate surface. Would also like to see more of a back fence. perhaps even on board level vials.
Hey Kyle. You could use a couple of clamps to lock the butted ends together before v2 comes out.
Frank Taccetta thanks I agree. I just wish it was already In there
You could fix the not locking at 48 inches with 5 minutes and a 1/4 inch drill bit
I know for sure tho ill be getting one of those martinez squares soon hopefully theyll be getting some instock been checking theyre website theyve been out of the stock.
that's a killer unit and I love how firm and stable it is. I currently use the Ridgid big assed heavy cart on wheels for my Dewalt 780 and I bet it weighs as much as that entire set up. I hate that I have 2 spindly four foot arms to hold up my work and once cut the work falls to the ground. I especially like the table saw out table. Curious if it would work with my Dewalt table saw cart.
For the time and effort, build yourself a Paulk Total Station workbench. I'm glad I did!
Definitely a great investment!
We use 2/4 built saw horses that we’ve had for well over a year.. 4 to 6 pairs of saw horses and all built from scrap wood or horses from the house before. I know everyone’s different but I couldn’t even imagine.
A few things:
1: I cannot believe how warm it was last winter. We had a similar situation in PA., and shortly after that warm spell it snowed heavily and froze and the temp dropped below zero F. You had an ideal winter job site there!
2: I would've liked to see the Cut Hub set up with those wooden outriggers that Dave Jessop brought to you. I could see how they would be very useful when you were stacking your cut lumber for your windows and balancing them on the one metal horse.
3: You didn't show any detailed footage of how the miter saw is first mated to the Cut Hub saw platform. That would be neat to see.
4: One neat thing that Concord Carpenter / Toolbox Buzz did when they reviewed Milwaukee's smaller prefab miter saw horse, they showed how the saw station platform included a small indentation for retaining small items like a pencil or razor-blade knife. Robilard suggested Milwaukee improve this tray-within-a-tray by magnetizing it. Cut Hub should do something similar with their "2.0". ruclips.net/video/aRiHi_KlWRY/видео.html
5: Dave Jessop & Co. could always team up with Red Oxx from MT. Both made in MT., both premium in their niche, both would appeal to rugged, on-the-road contractors.
6: This is going to sound a little silly at first, but please stop and think: This Cut Hub with two wooden outriggers would make a great on-site table for viewing blueprints as well as for lunch breaks and other table applications. All that would be needed is a pair of benches. If there were a way to clamp down a blueprint (or shade umbrella/tent) to the table, this would be very useful for a variety of applications, both job site and otherwise.
7: I hope all those components a durable and hold up a long time.
8: In your job trailer, you used the shipping boxes for storage. That's a minor, though significant, selling point. What was that box you stacked the cordless saw on top of? Was that part of the boxing as well?
All great ideas and yes the entire shipping containers doubled as storage in the trailer
When the sections are pushed together tight you could add a locking block to the legs using the available slot in each. Maybe a couple of carriage bolts and wing nuts and an aluminum piece cut to size.
Very cool setup. Absolutely would be useful, more accurate and a time saver. 4k is a hard pill to swallow though.
It’s a cool miter station design .
can you also extend and adjust each of the legs if the ground is not very level?
I think it’s awesome and I’m definitely not against spending money on tools but that is a hefty price. I was gonna guess around $1500.
When disassembling the three tables consider flipping the table your folding the legs down onto the remaining table, then you are not bent over working on the ground except for the last table.
The festool system does the exact same thing with the wings and has good stops and is way cheaper with the saw included.
yes but does it have a table saw outfeed built in as well as tons of extra storage on removable wings?
Watching you set up and take down this stand, reminds me of how much I hate my Ryobi miter saw stand that I paid $100 for. I was thinking that I could make a very similar stand that I would probably also hate, by buying 2 more of those stands and making a few minor alterations. I would have less than $400 into a stand that would be muck cheaper than 4 grand! The thing I hate most about my stand is the fact that you have to bend over so much to fold the legs in and out, and the fact that it doesn't have wheels like every other stand.
If you can get the Festool Kapex (a clearly superior saw) and Stand and extensions with 5ft support and 8ft material stops out each side for considerably less then just these stands, you know its unreasonably overpriced.
You can easily build additional support extensions for a $100.
There’s considerably less then $1000 worth of Aluminum there so how much money you make with it doesn’t justify its cost, that’s not how you price tools
There’s also other fence systems that do exactly this for much less with 1/2 the bulk and much less setup time.
For me efficient and safety is high. well worth the money for those reasons...
nice. metabo gave you some free stuff to try out. nice. wicked.
Nice rig...but....too low for me. I see the adjustable legs. Probably could pre-set the height and leave it. Another but....noticed at tear down not much room between the feet of the legs in the folded position, that would prevent the pre setting of the leg height for different job sites.
Should have used the Milwaukee saw...would have matched the red on the hub. Lol
What weight are the horses(benches) rated at?. Could use as a impromptu scaffold.
Keep up the great craftsmanship
Greg
Nice for Finish,...... for frame I'd want rollers for easy feedin off the bunk, or just cut multiples on the bunk.
When builders get to your level, they fabricate in a shop. The girts and purlins are alot cheaper when bought by the truckload. Have a laborer cut and drill in bulk inside the shop and store them for future jobs.
Hey Kyle, I can see for a post framer or exterior guy with long stock I can see this being the cats whistle, I'm also willing to pay more for a usa made product, id be interested to see a cost comparison between a commercial made unit, realising there is no comparison in capabilities. Tough to figure out the payoff of a unit, $4k seems a touch high but not out of the ball park.
This is definitely for a rough carpenter. I'm a finish carp and so far Fastcap's Best Fence is the best for what I do.
The double cam on the stop block looks cumbersome. The button needing to be pushed to open the legs is unnecessary. Nice product, in theory, but needs to be simplified to be really efficient. I'd consider this a prototype. In a few years this could be a really nice product. Price needs to be significantly cheaper too.
def version 1.0
Hello, Coming from 40 years experience as a Carpenter the majority doing finish Carpentry, this saw station does have it's place especially if you are an "Owner Operator and hire out regularly.. I have several work stations and if I could go through a "do over" in life(starting in the Trades) I would do a few hings a little differently and would consider this Saw Station...
It is a little too big for most Finnish Carpentry needs(indoors)... Greg
Crazy money for that. I’ll take the 20 minutes to make a couple saw horses out of 2x4s that cost me $10
You should pick up the bundle of wood with the skid steer and position it where you can just slide them on to the table to cut.
Save walking time, especially on those rocks.
Great work as usual.
Might bump into the $4k stand. We can't have that happen..
skliros we demoed one of the early “sawgear” jobsite digital stops. It was destroyed in minutes by banging 2x12s into it. This looks a lot more rugged, but still... it had better be bulletproof and this looks like it might well be.
I’m not taking anything away from the guy that designed this, he has obviously invested a lot in this BUT if he truly comes from a framing background how the hell does he design a product with a fence (which is his favourite part) that can’t cut an 8foot length. That has to be the most common cut ever made. “Framing some 8ft walls today boys, let me just get my 4K mitersaw stand out and I’ll show you how it’s done. Oh wait, 10ft ceilings it is”
Miter Saw is an old idea because has just about 1 ft cut and cannot be used on boards. It shall be retired. I invented a "Parallel Guided Power Saw" which can be seen on you tube under this name. My saw can cut up to 18 ft or more. Look at my saw and let me know what you think. My saw may replaced miter saw, table saw, and router table. It can carry also grinders, drills press, hand saw and more.
First, you provide a lot of content and explanation in your videos. Thank you for that. You set this station up left handed. Why. It seems that a right handed set up would be better for your crew and avoid the dreaded cross handling of a miter saw. Is this available with the equipment that you were provided? Maybe you could provide an explanation in another video. Otherwise, except for leveling, set up looks great. I have the money, I just need the justification for a non commercial junkie who is a tool freak! LOL. Thanks again.