Dude, you always go back to m43. You like the lenses, the form factor, and the results you get. No one that matters is going to notice the difference between shots taken on ff vs m43. Enjoy your olympus cameras!
This is why I keep my Sony RX10 IV for travel and family. A 1 inch BSI sensor all in one, 24-600mm eq Zeiss lens f/2.4-4 I can use it one handed when needed and I’ve got all the focal ranges covered in one package. Needs some denoise at higher ISO but everyone is doing that already. Thanks for the video!
Great insights. Thanks for sharing. Been using 2 small primes (Zuiko 17mm F1.8 and Zuiko 45mm F1.8) set up. It’s liberating. Most everyone has their own personal preferences. I’ve narrowed my photography to these two focal lengths and have been happy. Sticking to my guns for consistency across my work. Hopefully. 😅
You suggested the Pany 10-25 f1.7, for travel? It is huge. What you want is something small. I was just on a trip, I had my GX9 + Olympus 17 F1.8, this was on the camera most of the time. I also had the Leica 9mm for very wide. For telephoto I took the Pany 35-100 f4-5.6. Most of the time the weather was sunny, f5.6 was fine. I also took filters, I never used them. This is where I agree completely with you, don't take too much gear. Mostly for travel there is little time to mess about with stuff. Even sometimes I wished I had left the 9mm at home, although I did get some nice pics with it. It was just the changing of lenses becomes a pain. I have tried the Pany 14-140 f3.5-5.6. It is a great lens but I still took my Oly 17mm f1.8 and preferred using it. There is something about the small overall form factor that I like. Of course, each to their own, the important thing is to enjoy taking photos 🙂
Hey, Eric. Had a similar experience a couple of years ago on a two week Vienna trip. Took my trusty Olympus EM5II with a lot of lenses “just in case”. Ended up using the 12-45 pro 80% of the time. The 9mm PL served me well for the occasional interiors and buildings. Night time and low light was served by the 15mm 1.7 which worked great. Never making the same mistake again.
To enjoy the holiday and not let the camera+lens stand in the way of that, I always bring one camera+one fixed focal length. The case is solved⚡️🔥 Have a good summer☀️
I am a hobbyist: I have a FF, with eye detect, but it's big and heavy fast with lenses. For travel where photography will be incidental, I still have an EOS200D (SL2 your market). It has a very OK grip and a built in flash for a bit of pop, which I can CTO gel if I really need. I TRY to restrict myself to two lenses and often enough that's the EF-S 24mm and 55-250. Small light and ''inexpensive''. I keep looking at the OM5/ Lack of grip, no USB-C, fussy menu learning curve that's surely due for change, lowlight with the slow aperture zoom I would actually buy and only OK AF has kept me from pulling the trigger.......It's close when I ask myself what do I really need??? As it stands I am good (I have a few EF-S lenses and know my way around Canon)...
My dream travel combo would be a Sony A7CR and the 24-50 2.8 zoom. Small setup, wide enough and also enough resolution to crop in on the long end to get a bit more reach if needed. If you like shooting wider you could pair with the 16-25 2.8 and you're covered. I'm also a prime guy, but this setup is calling me!
Great video. Just got back from an 18 day trip in Italy took my EM1 Mark 2 with the 9 mm F1.7 Panasonic, Olympus 12-40 f2.8 Pro and Olympus 40-150 kit lens. No problems at all; very small package and an amazing range. The 40-150 kit lens took very sharp detailed images of the high church ceilings when called on. Not surprisingly 70% of the shots were with the 12-40mm pro
For me i take the 12-45 f4 and 20mm f1.4 when traveling with my E-M5iii and it's rare that there's something that I can't get a shot I'm happy with. They have the same filter size and share the same lens caps and hoods. A good compromise compact kit.
I'm also thinking about 20 1.4 to make a travel combo with 12-45 (with my OM5). But it's really hard to find some used one with good price here in EU...
Heading to Italy in July. I picked up a Z7II and will be bringing the 24-120mm F4. Hopefully this will handle most of the use cases. I don't have any other Z lenses at this point. I have a DX 35mm F1.8. Sounds like it might be worth bringing.
Yeah I've had similar realizations too. My 20-70f4 on my A7Cr or the 12-45f4 on my OM5. I never take both cameras, but when I take either one somewhere they do 99% of what I want. I love primes as much as the next guy but I hate changing lenses more than I like bokeh.
@@ericrjennings I like both for different reasons. I alternate carry them. Going back and forth for whatever reason makes me appreciate each in their own way. I get very different results from each that aren't as simple as "same shot with a different sensor size" that I can't quite quantify. Sony when I absolutely must have maximum keepers, and the Oly when I'm less concerned about the results and just enjoying the process.
@@ericrjennings Also the Om5 w/12-45 is EDC kit. Goes in my "man purse" basically everywhere. The A7CR and that lens are compact, but not nearly as light in my shoulder bag. Lets me get a lot of shots I'd never take otherwise. I refuse to use my phone.
killer combo on the A7CR maybe add a 40 2.5 just in case, you got most everything covered. That's what I'm taking on my next trip, except I'll add in a 85 1.8 for a specific reason.
I just bought a MFT camera with two zoom lenses. The zoom is important, especially for mountainous regions where a wide lens flattens things out too much. The camera body is BIG though (Panasonic G9). Maybe I’ll get something smaller later, for travel.
Think the ricoh GR 3 for me has negated my need for a zoom. Can stick a 50mm or 90mm on my dedicated body (currently an m240) and always have the range I need with a small amount of gear. Last year I did bring a fuji with the 16-80 interrailing which worked really well too, think a m43 zoom would be better due to being more compact
Whilst I’ve been thinking of this video for a few days.. my canon r5 is without a doubt the best camera I own. Since sigma announced it was making apsc lenses for Canon the idea of a Canon R7 and I suspect an R7ii in the near future might just be a perfect camera system for both of us.
Really surprised you didn't like the Q2. It's literally the perfect travel camera for cities (stills only). The user experience is great, it's simple, and fairly tidy. I brought it along with me to London a few months ago along with my A7RV/24-70GMii combo and the Q2 captured 90% of my favorite shots. To be fair the images I did snag with the A7RV were amazing though. I now have the A7Cii w/ 20-70 + Q2 + Pocket 3 for my travel kit - it's perfect for my needs. You might prefer the A7CR for the extra resolution. I'm seriously considering selling some of my bigger FF bodies because I just don't use them enough. The new A7C models are the same size as Sony's APS-C 6700. I've tried M43, but have been disappointed in the past with the image quality, especially in low light. I feel like I test out a bunch of gear vicariously through you 🤣🤣 - thank you!! (Oh, and it's def time to shave the stache, it's gettin' creepy)
I’ve had the Q2 in my cart like 8X … and the monochrome…. In fact it might be there now… As far as the Sony A7Cii goes, I can’t stand the fake shutter sound for EFCS. Otherwise that’s the perfect option.
@@ericrjennings Oh, I def agree about the EFCS. I use the A7Cii primarily for video and just a few stills when I need something wider or tighter than what Q2 can do. When I need a camera to just get out of the way and let me capture some images, nothing beats the Q2. LOVE the monochrome version, but the colors are just so tasty on Leica - it would be a shame not to capture them. You can always convert to B&W in post. You can buy a used Q2 for ~$3k which is a MUCH better value than the $6k you were looking at a year ago.
It's fun watching you go through the same evolution as myself. Last week, I commented on comparing the Sony A7CR to OM system size wise. Since then I've talked myself down to the Sony 28-60 f4.5-6.0 kit lens with one small fast prime. I have that lens already and it is very good, I don't care what the forum comments say about kit lenses. With 60mp, I can crop the crap out of that little guy and get 90-100mm no problem. It's a journey, isn't it?
@@ericrjennings LOL, I've never understood the issue with EFCS. I'm a stills only guy and could never see a difference. I just figured it would reduce shutter wear. Shows what I know.
9mm is a great lens for wide too and tiny. 12-40 during the day and 20mm for dinners. 75mm for street portraits. Oly has you covered in many many ways. M4/3 is a wonderful world.
Just got back from France. G9ii 12-35 with 35-100 in my back pocket. I was super happy. Totally agree with everything here, including being grossed out by my own moustache.
Have you ever used one of the Olympus epl cameras? No viewfinder but real small when paired with the m43 pancake lenses. If you already have the bigger “nicer” m43 body the epl line makes for a nice tiny travel setup. They are also (relatively) cheap if you get one of the slightly older ones.
I take a m43 14-140mm f3.5 zoom and a 14mm f2.5 prime when I travel. I don't need a fast zoom because I'm probably shooting it outside in daylight. I switch to the 14 when light is low, but I'm shooting up close anyway. I dont even take the 14 walking around in daylight. It's in my bag at the hotel. And I've never thought a photo was spoiled by too little bokeh. You can fake it in the editing if you can't stand it.
@@ericrjennings The Nikkor 24-85mm is surprisingly good, is small and lightweight, plus it has VR. You could consider it as travel setup should you stick with the D780
Dude, you always go back to m43. You like the lenses, the form factor, and the results you get. No one that matters is going to notice the difference between shots taken on ff vs m43. Enjoy your olympus cameras!
Totally agree with all of this. M43 is my favorite travel format because it can cover every instance with 2 lenses
For city trips you should consider the Oly 8-25mm together with the 45mm 1.8. Difficult to get it smaller and lighter by same quality and versatility.
Insightful stuff, Eric! Really nice shots too 👏
I agree. I like to keep things simple when on vacation. M6 and 35 Cron is all I need.
This is why I keep my Sony RX10 IV for travel and family. A 1 inch BSI sensor all in one, 24-600mm eq Zeiss lens f/2.4-4 I can use it one handed when needed and I’ve got all the focal ranges covered in one package. Needs some denoise at higher ISO but everyone is doing that already. Thanks for the video!
I’m back to M43 after trying every single brand.
I was fear of the small sensor before I change to om-1 now with the 12-100 f4 is the most versatile thing I can have
Great insights. Thanks for sharing. Been using 2 small primes (Zuiko 17mm F1.8 and Zuiko 45mm F1.8) set up. It’s liberating. Most everyone has their own personal preferences. I’ve narrowed my photography to these two focal lengths and have been happy. Sticking to my guns for consistency across my work. Hopefully. 😅
You suggested the Pany 10-25 f1.7, for travel? It is huge. What you want is something small.
I was just on a trip, I had my GX9 + Olympus 17 F1.8, this was on the camera most of the time. I also had the Leica 9mm for very wide. For telephoto I took the Pany 35-100 f4-5.6. Most of the time the weather was sunny, f5.6 was fine.
I also took filters, I never used them. This is where I agree completely with you, don't take too much gear. Mostly for travel there is little time to mess about with stuff. Even sometimes I wished I had left the 9mm at home, although I did get some nice pics with it. It was just the changing of lenses becomes a pain.
I have tried the Pany 14-140 f3.5-5.6. It is a great lens but I still took my Oly 17mm f1.8 and preferred using it. There is something about the small overall form factor that I like. Of course, each to their own, the important thing is to enjoy taking photos 🙂
Hey, Eric. Had a similar experience a couple of years ago on a two week Vienna trip. Took my trusty Olympus EM5II with a lot of lenses “just in case”.
Ended up using the 12-45 pro 80% of the time. The 9mm PL served me well for the occasional interiors and buildings. Night time and low light was served by the 15mm 1.7 which worked great. Never making the same mistake again.
Even better combo is 14-150mm + 9mm + one fast prime (20mm 1.4 or 15mm 1.7 or 25mm 1.4), so 3 lenses that cover everything. Cheers
To enjoy the holiday and not let the camera+lens stand in the way of that, I always bring one camera+one fixed focal length.
The case is solved⚡️🔥
Have a good summer☀️
I am a hobbyist: I have a FF, with eye detect, but it's big and heavy fast with lenses. For travel where photography will be incidental, I still have an EOS200D (SL2 your market). It has a very OK grip and a built in flash for a bit of pop, which I can CTO gel if I really need. I TRY to restrict myself to two lenses and often enough that's the EF-S 24mm and 55-250. Small light and ''inexpensive''. I keep looking at the OM5/ Lack of grip, no USB-C, fussy menu learning curve that's surely due for change, lowlight with the slow aperture zoom I would actually buy and only OK AF has kept me from pulling the trigger.......It's close when I ask myself what do I really need??? As it stands I am good (I have a few EF-S lenses and know my way around Canon)...
Smart and wise
My dream travel combo would be a Sony A7CR and the 24-50 2.8 zoom. Small setup, wide enough and also enough resolution to crop in on the long end to get a bit more reach if needed. If you like shooting wider you could pair with the 16-25 2.8 and you're covered. I'm also a prime guy, but this setup is calling me!
Great video. Just got back from an 18 day trip in Italy took my EM1 Mark 2 with the 9 mm F1.7 Panasonic, Olympus 12-40 f2.8 Pro and Olympus 40-150 kit lens. No problems at all; very small package and an amazing range. The 40-150 kit lens took very sharp detailed images of the high church ceilings when called on. Not surprisingly 70% of the shots were with the 12-40mm pro
For me i take the 12-45 f4 and 20mm f1.4 when traveling with my E-M5iii and it's rare that there's something that I can't get a shot I'm happy with. They have the same filter size and share the same lens caps and hoods. A good compromise compact kit.
I'm also thinking about 20 1.4 to make a travel combo with 12-45 (with my OM5). But it's really hard to find some used one with good price here in EU...
Heading to Italy in July. I picked up a Z7II and will be bringing the 24-120mm F4. Hopefully this will handle most of the use cases. I don't have any other Z lenses at this point. I have a DX 35mm F1.8. Sounds like it might be worth bringing.
Just use that 24-120. Spectacular lens and will do it for you
I think I’d take the X100V or X-T3 with a 18-55 on a similar trip.
Agreed. Maybe the Nikon 24-120 would have been a good kit?
Yeah I've had similar realizations too. My 20-70f4 on my A7Cr or the 12-45f4 on my OM5. I never take both cameras, but when I take either one somewhere they do 99% of what I want.
I love primes as much as the next guy but I hate changing lenses more than I like bokeh.
Exactly. Your Sony combo is a gas causing combo for me. It makes m4/3 make no sense outside the fact I simply like Oly
@@ericrjennings I like both for different reasons. I alternate carry them. Going back and forth for whatever reason makes me appreciate each in their own way. I get very different results from each that aren't as simple as "same shot with a different sensor size" that I can't quite quantify. Sony when I absolutely must have maximum keepers, and the Oly when I'm less concerned about the results and just enjoying the process.
@@ericrjennings Also the Om5 w/12-45 is EDC kit. Goes in my "man purse" basically everywhere. The A7CR and that lens are compact, but not nearly as light in my shoulder bag. Lets me get a lot of shots I'd never take otherwise. I refuse to use my phone.
killer combo on the A7CR maybe add a 40 2.5 just in case, you got most everything covered. That's what I'm taking on my next trip, except I'll add in a 85 1.8 for a specific reason.
I just bought a MFT camera with two zoom lenses. The zoom is important, especially for mountainous regions where a wide lens flattens things out too much. The camera body is BIG though (Panasonic G9). Maybe I’ll get something smaller later, for travel.
M43 has great travel cameras. You should have taken the OM5 with the pancake kit lens... way smaller and you get more in focus- perfect.
totally agree
Think the ricoh GR 3 for me has negated my need for a zoom. Can stick a 50mm or 90mm on my dedicated body (currently an m240) and always have the range I need with a small amount of gear. Last year I did bring a fuji with the 16-80 interrailing which worked really well too, think a m43 zoom would be better due to being more compact
M43 is new full. Lovely pics, seems like the loud music kills them a bit. A 12 mm on M43 for street / traveling is a nice choice.
Whilst I’ve been thinking of this video for a few days.. my canon r5 is without a doubt the best camera I own. Since sigma announced it was making apsc lenses for Canon the idea of a Canon R7 and I suspect an R7ii in the near future might just be a perfect camera system for both of us.
Really surprised you didn't like the Q2. It's literally the perfect travel camera for cities (stills only). The user experience is great, it's simple, and fairly tidy. I brought it along with me to London a few months ago along with my A7RV/24-70GMii combo and the Q2 captured 90% of my favorite shots. To be fair the images I did snag with the A7RV were amazing though. I now have the A7Cii w/ 20-70 + Q2 + Pocket 3 for my travel kit - it's perfect for my needs. You might prefer the A7CR for the extra resolution. I'm seriously considering selling some of my bigger FF bodies because I just don't use them enough. The new A7C models are the same size as Sony's APS-C 6700. I've tried M43, but have been disappointed in the past with the image quality, especially in low light. I feel like I test out a bunch of gear vicariously through you 🤣🤣 - thank you!! (Oh, and it's def time to shave the stache, it's gettin' creepy)
I’ve had the Q2 in my cart like 8X … and the monochrome…. In fact it might be there now…
As far as the Sony A7Cii goes, I can’t stand the fake shutter sound for EFCS. Otherwise that’s the perfect option.
@@ericrjennings Oh, I def agree about the EFCS. I use the A7Cii primarily for video and just a few stills when I need something wider or tighter than what Q2 can do. When I need a camera to just get out of the way and let me capture some images, nothing beats the Q2. LOVE the monochrome version, but the colors are just so tasty on Leica - it would be a shame not to capture them. You can always convert to B&W in post. You can buy a used Q2 for ~$3k which is a MUCH better value than the $6k you were looking at a year ago.
It's fun watching you go through the same evolution as myself. Last week, I commented on comparing the Sony A7CR to OM system size wise. Since then I've talked myself down to the Sony 28-60 f4.5-6.0 kit lens with one small fast prime. I have that lens already and it is very good, I don't care what the forum comments say about kit lenses. With 60mp, I can crop the crap out of that little guy and get 90-100mm no problem. It's a journey, isn't it?
Yes it is. My only issue with the A7C cameras is it’s EFCS only.
@@ericrjennings LOL, I've never understood the issue with EFCS. I'm a stills only guy and could never see a difference. I just figured it would reduce shutter wear. Shows what I know.
@j16m02 it just sounds like garbage and I’m an aesthetics guy
Good to see someone else appreciating that small flash for Olympus. I pretty much just keep it on the camera.
9mm is a great lens for wide too and tiny. 12-40 during the day and 20mm for dinners. 75mm for street portraits. Oly has you covered in many many ways. M4/3 is a wonderful world.
Belles vues de Provins! J'espère que ça vous a plu, photos réussies, bravo.
Just got back from France. G9ii 12-35 with 35-100 in my back pocket. I was super happy. Totally agree with everything here, including being grossed out by my own moustache.
But you still have the Stache? Why can’t I shave it? What’s wrong with me?
@@ericrjennings hahahaha, I ditched mine but I left it for my passport photo so it would still be lurking around.
I own a Nikon D750 (FF) and a Fuji (APS-C). Then I bought a Leica Q3 (FF, 60 Mpx). Never used the other camera's again since.
This might be my next purchase
Have you ever used one of the Olympus epl cameras? No viewfinder but real small when paired with the m43 pancake lenses. If you already have the bigger “nicer” m43 body the epl line makes for a nice tiny travel setup. They are also (relatively) cheap if you get one of the slightly older ones.
Never used one
@@ericrjennings it makes for a nice pocketable setup for travel. Or you can take a couple extra lenses in a real small bag
I love my Nikon, but I miss the fun of Olympus, just may jump back in a small way. I just wish I felt better about the future of OM Systems.
This was so helpful 😮❤
You crack me up!!
Never seen a good photo narrower than f1.2
Glad to hear you're ditching the 'porn stache.' 😁
I can’t take myself serious anymore
I think you look great whatever you do. The pictures you crafted in France are fantastic.
I take a m43 14-140mm f3.5 zoom and a 14mm f2.5 prime when I travel. I don't need a fast zoom because I'm probably shooting it outside in daylight. I switch to the 14 when light is low, but I'm shooting up close anyway. I dont even take the 14 walking around in daylight. It's in my bag at the hotel. And I've never thought a photo was spoiled by too little bokeh. You can fake it in the editing if you can't stand it.
Sounds more like you made bad lens choices than a bad body choice.
Well not really. The body dictates that I want the primes because a 24-70/2.8 on the d780 would be huge.
@@ericrjennings fair enough.
@@ericrjennings The Nikkor 24-85mm is surprisingly good, is small and lightweight, plus it has VR. You could consider it as travel setup should you stick with the D780