"Bridgerton" Costumes Are A Historical Mess, But They Kinda Work
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2021
- forgot to mention that I focus - as always - on women's clothing here, but @pinsenttailoring should drop his review soon! also check out @Costuming_Drama 's interesting video about issues within the show: • Why Bridgerton is Prob...
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copying the description here cause no one reads it: forgot to mention that I focus - as always - on women's clothing here, but Pinsent Tailoring should drop his review soon! also check out Costuming Drama's interesting video about some of the issues within the show: ruclips.net/video/9XQxFcRfWSc/видео.html&
yes yes yes
I love you mememom
Thank you
We luv u meme mum xD
Can you do how to tell the difference in fashion by the decades for the 18th century?
Bridgerton is totally a fanfic. They literally have the fake-relationship-trope in it
@Ruoshui Liu pardon?
Yes, I loved it. The pop song instrumental covers actually kinda worked. Like they took inspiration from the period and just made their own little world with it and it was never meant to be accurate, it was just a very trope-y show to enjoy and I think they made it work.
"Gross" is by far not strong enough in this case.
Anyway, has any of you read the books and can, thus tell me if this is how the books are written? Or were they written like real Regency and the tv series changed that?! Thanks in advance for the answer!
@@andis7187 I personally hated the music. Like they couldn't come up with something more creative, and just took modern pop songs and covered them in string quartet. There were even some shots of someone playing an instrument that was nowhere to be heard in the actual music. I don't know. It kind of infuriated me 😅. Glad others enjoyed it I guess.
@@yoyoheads same. The covers were awful.
They literally played a Billie Eilish song in one of the episodes. I don't think they are concerned with historical accuracy at all. 😂
And ariana grande, taylor swift and shawn mendes. Yeah this is all fantasy
@@fountainofheaven3547 Imagine them dancing to melanie martinez
@@k1iic_ drama club/highschool sweethearts can totally see it
Remind me of that Marie-Antoinette movie.
They played everyone's song lmao
I'm kinda waiting for the time when Karolina finally snaps and makes her own historically accurate movie LOL.
Same😂😂
I'd be in it gladly
Oh if only I had the money to fund it...
I would watch it
History be like
I feel like Bridgerton is an alternate universe with less racism, more dainty clothes and where beloved 2020s pop songs were released 200 years early
And that’s way better imo! I loved it
Yep😂
Thats exactly it. Bridgerton is taking history as inspiration but has heavy fantasy. If it were accurate, most of the individuals who are not pale in complexion would never be in fancy dress or at any fancy event during that time.
Fr great
It is an alternate universe but that doesn't mean the costume design is beyond criticism. Karolina makes some very good points here. Specially because the whole vibe of the show is that it looks like a Jane Austen's fanfic, like regency era from a modern pov, so if you're whole aesthetic is going to be a fantasy, romanticized version of a particular historical period, it is to be at least expected that you're familiar with it enough at least
*period drama gets released*
Costubers: “it’s free real estate”
Wait, WAIT. IS THAT A MIXTURE OF COSTUMER AND RUclipsR? oh god, I’m such a bloody idiot
557 likes in 55 minutes
rip your notifications
And we're here for it
Costume RUclipsr? Costure? (Is that a real word?)
@@ElDesvanDeDan yes
i saw a tumblr post once that was like "great-grandma didn't give herself arsenic poisoning for costumers to avoid bright colors" and i think about it regularly
Was that what killed people who had green wallpaper?
@@amylynnhunt55 it was the color itself because that was the ingredient
@@amylynnhunt55 yes! can't remember off the top of my head why, but im pretty sure it was something about how the pigment was made/produced.
@@amylynnhunt55 - That was Paris Green. Very much in vogue back then but HIGHLY toxic, mainly for those who were working on its production. Like children... 😭
@@amylynnhunt55 I think the green itself contained arsenic, which the victorians inhaled due to it being in the wallpaper. I saw a youtube video about it not too long ago (looked bbc-esque), very interesting!!
Bridgerton is 100% meant to be regency fantasy. It was never intended to be historically accurate. They dance to an orchestral version of Thank U Next for goodness sake.
It is what you called a drama, really don’t know what people don’t get about that, seriously should stop getting their knickers in a twist lol 😂
@@kazc7019 just a bunch of snobby faux historians who think they get to gate-keep who wears regency dresses (and according to several people in these comments, black people in positions of wealth and power are just too much to handle *insert eye roll*).
It’s a fun sexy “bodice ripper” novel made into a Netflix show. It isn’t that serious.
@@Emilovesyouuuu I love the fact that is a multicultural tv show, and seriously who hasn’t fallen for the duke he is a dream. In the end it is a fantasy drama love story
i fell off my chair so many times watching that part.
Apparently
I felt so bad for the seamstress character. Every time the rich ladies told her they needed the gowns the next day I thought "how's she gonna do that???"
thank goodness shes not real and doesn’t actually have to make the dresses lmao
@@channingkice5118 to be fair, no era is free from privileged and ignorant ladies, so seamstresses still had a hard time back then lol
Madame Delacroix is actually a time-traveller. I just did not figure out if she travels to future to get the wanted designy and measurements, or if she travels weeks in the past to have time to finish it. 😌
@@saranemcova5448 both
@@saranemcova5448 if I ever watch this show, I'll keep that in mind 😂
rich teenage girl in 1859: NEW COLOR JUST DROPPED
Me prowling Pantone’s newest colors
Mauveine has entered the chat.
The Heiress Effect by Courtney Milan is pretty much about that
HAHAHAAA
"it's not a historical romance, it's a historical fantasy" nail. on. head.
Netflix caters to a teenage audiences in terms of storytelling and romance, costumes and drama (which is not necessarily bad but I do find the dumbing down disingenuous to the teenage audience). Enola Holmes and now Bridgeton it seems a direct reflection of the influencers and tik tokers of today. Elite rich children living their lives unperturbed by the cares and worries of the world outside their class bubble and in Enolas case talking directly to us as RUclips influencers do in videos etc. Its actually smart marketing choice as a direct /familiar connection to today, back in the day these were the 'influencers' and kardashians of their times. Because I came to watch this show with this view in mind and I was not expecting masterful storytelling or accurate costumes, I was able to watch it all the way through like a soap opera with many a cringe moments 😬😅 I'm watching it for Nicola Coughlan who is in the amazing shoe Derry Girls! (Which is a period peice in itself-set in the 1990s). Look forward to see more interactions with Nicola and Claudia Jessie's character.
@@valeskacanas9187 Teenagers? Julia Quinn has a primarily older female audience. This show is not catered to teenagers, especially the fact there are so many very prolonged sex scenes. It's more like the Outlander demographic.
A fantasy wherein modern cigarettes were manufactured fifty years earlier.
@@LittleHouseofGeeky opps merged two topics/ideas in one, was speaking more of netflix shows in general that cater to that audience or have character that are teenagers. I have not read Quinns works but have found out many have, from what I've seen of the Bridgeton netflix show I may have to disagree it being like Outlander in terms of narrative at least first few books of outlander (but maybe that's me being a snob or impolite, I'll take that on the chin, if that's the case), probably similar more in regards to the intimate scenes and prolonged takes. Totally agree not for a younger audience I hope netflix has parental controls!
@@Laila-zx6bc Derry Girls is such a great little show! With great funny female characters and covers some serious topics too with sincerity and aplomb.
I love how "Reign" is always the scale for "bad costumes" even years later 🤣
Well they really set a whole new standard in god awful costuming
It did tempt me to buy a few things from Chichi London and Asos and play dress up!
I enjoyed the show, but I watched it before costuming was something I paid any attention to (know it’s what I almost exclusively pay attention too)
I've to tell you, I know naught about european fashion history and I was still wondering all the time why the dresses seemed like something rose would wear in titanic and why the ladies had their hair open in modern styles. It was THAT horrible
@@raizel1155 even Titanic was a generous assessment of Reign fashion. Most of it was modern high street or runway looks that just had a vaguely historical nod to them.
yes! Totally FANFIC vibes! That part when Simon "teaches" daphne how to touch herself..?? It looks like something from wattpad
Yeah. Masterbation in general was a huge nono at that time. But female masterbation?? Absolutely not. If they could talk about female masterbation in that explicit detail in the show... Then they could have had a conversation about consent. And not have had a non consentual sex scene. 🤷♀️ I almost didn't finish the show because of *that* scene.
@@AnxietyRat im sorry, when is the non consentual sex scene? I Think I lost it
@@federica4017 The end of episode 6.
but also in defence girls at that time knew hardly anything about sex so it was kinda realistic imo
@@bruh-ok5ks martial rape isn't "normal not knowing about sex" again if they could twist the rules of the time and talk about masterbation ( it was thought of as a disease in 1813. Not something openly talked about. Ever.) then they could twist the rules of the time and have a conversation about consent. They just decided not to. Boggles me as to WHY they didnt. It was totally unnecessary because they literally act like it never happened.
Now we understand why the time travel seamstress was so stressed out-
This is the best comment 😂😂
Y E S
7000 outfits leaves me dazed 🥴
We better get movie out from this
@@hamsterm5998 I want Karolina in the movie version of "To Say Nothing of the Dog" because upon seeing the bit I can think of nothing else...
A period drama: *exists*
Karolina: S T O N K S
@@lottie9451 yes
The overboob thing drove me crazy too, but I wasn't sure how to fix it until you pointed it out here. I thought maybe the actresses all had small boobs or something, but now I realize it's because their dresses simply didn't fit. You know that scene where Daphne arrives at a ball and she's supposed to be all goddess-like to both ensnare the prince and make Simon jealous? I get that that was the aim, but I feel like it failed to deliver because I honestly felt like her mother looked better than her because her mother was wearing a gown that actually made her boobs look good while Daphne's chest was just... confused. There's a picture at 17:10 that sort of shows what I'm talking about.
I was thinking that maybe they did the overboob on purpose to make the actresses look younger. I feel like Marina for instance did not have one, and she’s depicted as a « woman » (having known Love, and the other obvious thing that I won’t spoil just in case) whereas Eloise, Penelope and Daphne are just « girls »
Were big boobs in trend at the time though?
@@roxy8456 Body types being in trend is a very modern thing. Back then it was your clothes, not your body, that made you fashionable. So it wasn't big boobs that were in fashion, it was a particular type of neckline where the boobs would be half exposed that was in trend. You can see it in the timestamp MeyaRose left - Daphne's boobs are fully covered (not in fashion), but her mom's in the background are half exposed (in fashion)
Right!! That dress is so.. Bleh... Looks like my first communion dress but with glitter 😅
Confused chest - I love that term XD
I believe from the story line and where they are taking her character at least Penelope's exclusively "overboob" bodices are made that way on purpose so that in the next series she will look older and more confident. I think it is most probably a set up to give her a cinderella moment later in the story. The designer clearly knows how to dress a curvier figure, look at her mother's dresses, she always looks amazing even through she does not have a slim, almost flat silhouette. Because we know they are using the colors to make a point why wouldn't they use the dress fit and shape also?
I think you are right! I like that idea
Yup.
In the books, Penelope's mother has zero understanding of Fashion and dresses her in yellow because it's a happy color, even though it is decidedly NOT a good color for her. She also pushed Penelope into society early in hopes that she'd make a good match quickly. So I think that's what the designer was going for with Mrs Featherington's weird too-slim gowns and Penelope's technicolor overboob dresses. Still doesn't explain Daphne's problem, though.
This series was the weirdest mix of 'pride and prejudice' and 'Gossip Girl' and i love it.
This is EXACTLY how I described it, word for word
Lol it was So historically inaccurate, but if you ignore the fact it was supposed to be a historical show and see it from a tv point of view it was nice to see a actors employed for their talents not colour.
Yes honest! Although it's not *really* fantasy there was totally a fantasy vibe throughout, I mean it's not trying to be historically accurate but more like a modern reimagining of the era, which is why I think the overall production design works even if it is inaccurate. That being said I love picking apart the historical inaccuracies for lols.
Well s**t, now you've sold me.
I loved Gossip Girl just for the clothes. Story lines? Who cares?
This is exactly how I described it to my cousins 🤣🤣
I loved how the show was already historically inacurate as hell so they just went all the way with it and had fun with the outfits. It definitely worked for this show
Me too
I mean it’s just a show
Well, I think "historical fantasy" is a good way to describe it 🤔
Reminds me of Asian “historical” shows. It’s mainly fantasy and exaggerated. I liked it. I hope it gets better in the next season though. Netflix gives bigger budgets to popular shows.
@Emmanuel Goldstein Bridgerton is based on adult romance novels, it was never meant for children, and no one is re-writing history for it.
I’m happy that people in that era didn’t actually have glitter or we’d still be finding it everywhere nowadays 😂
I love the Bridgerton style lol the only thing that throws me off is Lady Featherington's clothes. But, she's supposed to a fashion disaster and they designed her in a way that 21st century people can tell she isn't dressing properly lol
There was something about her silhouette that screamed at me, but I couldn't tell what it was! Of course, Penelope regularly commented on colours and later on, Madame Delacroix pointed out that she accomplished her dresses order because no one else would choose the fabric. 🤣
NOT REIGN LEVEL BAD 😭😭 (yes hard agree on so much of this video ❤️)
lol at us releasing practically the same video at the same time 😂❤️
Reign was iconic though even if the dresses were not at all historical
@ netflix should pay us for that promo stunt 👀🗣
Lol.
I was so happy to open RUclips to see two videos by my favorite fashion queens
The second I heard "Thank you, Next" by Ariana Grande as a classical instrumental version in the background of episode 1 I knew that they are not going for the slightest bit of accuarcy and I was suprisingly fine with it. If you dont try to be accurate in the first its less bad than wanting to be accurate but you fail miserably at it
Its just a show and don’t think they tried to be accurate so ..
yeah! I don't think they were trying to be accurate at all
Honestly the modern music turned classical is probably what bothered me most but because they weren’t trying so hard to be extremely accurate I got over it (sorta lol)
Just tell that to people still hang up on Reign
Totally agree
"also where tf are their bonnets? not a single bonnet in the show" micarah tewers is that you
me watching little women 2019
I went to a uni open day in Bath (where lots of Brigerton scenes were filmed) and the woman who did the tour said that Brigerton did this thing where you could be an extra if you brought your own costume, hence why so many extras costumes were historically inaccurate
so what you were saying about some of the dresses looking like they were made by high school seamstresses.. yeah
they mightve been
No one:
Bridgerton: *uses a corset-tightening scene for Regency Era stays in the very first scene*
The entire CosTube and historical costume community: *inhales* Boi
This was the exact moment I turned it off. I knew I couldn't handle it.
@@paige3591 same!!!!
Whatks with this stereotype all the time?! 😂
@@paige3591 saw it on the lil preview Netflix thing and was like nope 😂
@@paige3591 I was surviving until the appearance of the "dancer" who was wearing stilettos-- that weren't invented until the early 1900's.
"You can sense the piles of polyester from a distance" -Meme Mum 2021
Like those rented costumes we'd get for school plays.
And one of those always had a mysterious red stain
@@theturniptress805 Omg yesss
Careful with the candles, the dresses might caught fire lol
@@Poppy- lol
I feel like such a snob, but "piles of polyester" is exactly how I would describe the show overall. I tried to like it but I kind of hated it.
The whole "super tight corset" thing with raised waistline made me mad too. It's so stupid.
When I saw that corset scene I immediately thought "oh no, karolina isn't going to like this!"
Historical fantasy: BINGO. It's a stylized historical fantasy. Bridgerton was never pretending to be accurate, despite what people think
It’s like the Great but even more silly
I saw two videos talking about the disaster in the costumes, but it is supposed to be historically inaccurate.
I love the 3 book (and was the only that I read). But is clearly fantasy and if they adapt the 3 book, social class and rules goes down the drain.
Yes the stylist was even told “make the featheringtons as Gaudy as possible” as the costumes I think are a dramatized version of the character they belong to, which I LOVE (cause I like underlying meaning)
it's kind of funny when you go to videos like the Bridgerton trailer and how many people are complaining about how little historical accuracy there is in the show when it's abundantly clear that they never aimed for historical accuracy. Some people seem to think the producers didn't notice it wasn't accurate lol (not Karolina of course, just many of the commenters online)
I feel like the whole show is exaggerated to almost a parody so I see the extravagant costumes follow along the same lines. So it's kind of works for me??
Yeah like that is the whole point! There is NO historical accuracy and its kinda sad to see people not getting into it, the show obviously is having fun and vibing, there was even ariana grande playing at one of the balls, like c'on. We should treat this show like we treat medieval stories with a bunch of dragons! Just embrace the wacko concept and enjoy the ride, it's not a documentary.
I watched a costuber who is actually kinda positive about the costumes, she understands the fantasy/creative/storytelling element of the costumes plus her opinion bout the court costume is different from this vid, her vid says the royal court actually didn't like/follow the fashion trend at that time
Edit: the costuber i meant is Eternal Goddess go check her out 👍
Yes this!! Everything about the show is So Much that the ridiculous costumes support the absolute wild ride you're thrown on from the beginning. Apart from the "1813 London" at the beginning, the show barely makes any claim for actual historical accuracy, and things like Lady Featherington's wack dresses support Lady Featherington's wack personality
As someone who has read Julia Quinn and other Regency romances I put this show in almost an Alternate Universe of the Regency London that exists in Romance novels where they never wear bonnets, corsets get ripped off of bodices and class is never as important as love. Its a suspended disbelief thing but there were a few issues I still had even given that mindset with the costumes, in particular Lady Featherington and Pen Featherington
Its very similar to the idea of Reign, where the outfits are era adjacent, to try to make things more approachable to younger audiences!
Fun fact - in the books Mrs. Featherington’s character is supposed to be really bad at fashion trends. Dressing her youngest daughter in colours and shapes that didn’t flatter her. She forces her daughter to dress in yellow because it’s a “happy colour”.
i think the overboob part specifically on Pen was because she needed to look younger and more "innocent". apparently she's 34 in real life 😳
That corset scene at the beginning of the show triggered me immediately and made me think of you.
Saaaame
Yup!
yeah I was like "I can hear Karolina screaming in the distance"
Same here 😂
same here, my first thought was "Oh man Karolina is gonna hate this" and my second was "WAIT YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HER WAIST WHAT IS THE POINT" so I am glad she also brought that up
I’m sorry, I couldn’t focus. Meme Mom is looking like an absolute * chef’s kiss * Queen today. I love the outfit and the makeup!
Hair is 👌
Also came here to bring praise to that look,you beat us to it!
She's a secretary in a 40's movie who is NOT trying to marry her boss.
Really because I couldn't focus on her style with the forced snorting and laughter every five seconds
Totally agree! I clicked on the viedo and was like "NAJS, KAROLINA!"
it’s like the sims when they try to give you basic clothes, no one is wearing a bra crop top with studded jean shorts on their typical monday morning.
I'm waiting for the day Hollywood calls Karolina to make costumes for a historical movie but then dropping her cause her accuracy is too much effort for the producers so she makes her own version of costumes for a YT video and we're all here for it.
When watching the show I was confused how one single dressmaker was whipping out all of these handmade dresses so fast for everyone. Like??? It takes a WHILE to make a dress, even to alter a dress takes a hot minute
ikr they were like 'ya she made a wedding dress for daphne from scratch within like 3 days lol what about it' like bruh??? you got magical sowing machines in your basement or something?
I worked in a female atelier in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Believe me, they have a swag of seamstresses behind the front line. If something is urgent and they know you have the money to pay - it will be done. Work 24 hours straight to get the job done - not a problem.
@@sandramariegray7894 That's really impressive 😮
@@sandramariegray7894 did they make huge fully embroidered gowns?
@@weltraumkotze At times yes. I remember one of the royal family came in for 8 maternity gowns. She was about 6 months and so getting larger. They were required within the week as she was travelling overseas and they were to go with her. All completed along with two fittings.
I don't think they really aimed to be historically accurate, rather aesthetically pleasing...
which worked for me. 😄
Right?
Yup, for me too... Except for those very ill-fitting dresses with the waistline that is way too high and sitting on their breasts. That really does not look pretty at all. I even said that to my mother while watching the show.
@@kasimotinka123 agree. Some were offputting.. 😆
I agree- but the absurd amount of sex scenes in it were an aesthetic turn-off for me :/
Yes, I love it!
This show was definitely meant to be saccharine, escapist, smutty eye candy. If you consume it on that level, the fashion choices are blissful. Of course looking at it through a historical lens ruins the illusion, because it's a modern illusion designed by modern people
Meant only for women under 30.
@@mayloo2137 I'm a dude on his 20s and I enjoyed it 🤷
C’mon guys. There’s inaccurate racial diversity, inaccurate music, inaccurate costumes...
...& that’s what makes this series so cool
If they are going to make all of those changes maybe they should have made female characters more interesting instead of just being foolish girls who need to marry someone or they will be forever ruined
@@libelinhaa2079 I totally agree. They updated & made so much innacurate, they could have made the female characters so much more than just romantic fools. That’s actually a really really good point: They made everything so modern, yet they failed to make even one character more than just simpering romantic fools.
@@libelinhaa2079 It's a satire. The main character Daphne even talks about how its all ridiculous the way women are raised but she knows she has to participate anyway
I actually hate it. They made everything else inaccurate but left the sexism and turned sexualization up multiple notches. All the male where unlikable and the female characters were cringe
@@libelinhaa2079 the only character that really represented “something more” then that was Daphnes younger sister. who despised that life
A study in: "you have to known the rules to break the rules"
THIS
Omg no doubt!!! This is exactly what fkng bothered me so much about the show lol
The second time I've heard this in a week. I think the universe is trying to tell me something 😔
@@kayenjee Learn the rules of life and then break life itself.
and not get caught..
I like how the designer called it a contemporary "upgrade" when the upgrade was to... polyester
YES!!! I was like “did they just clear out the 1990’s left over bargain fabrics at Fabricland?”
THE TEA IS PIPING!!! 🍵☕
Gutted!
I onestly wish they didn't invent polyester clothing
Most of the jewelry looked synthetic too. It looked weird and off-putting!
i feel like its going over people's heads that its SUPPOSED to be historically inaccurate. from modern pop songs played in balls, the way they talk, black ppl being in power. like obv the costume isn't going to be HA either. its a total satire and I loved it. it was so fun.
“Sense the piles of polyester from a distance” 🤣
That line was fantastic tbh
Me trying to buy any clothes *and failing*
I know nothing about clothes or anything fashion but the “overboob bodice” annoyed me too
it sounds so uncomfortable lmao
As someone with a large chest, I noticed this right away. I hate dresses with that cut, specifically because of this.
omg yes, they were breathing and I was panicking about EVERYTHING coming out
It looks painful
I’m so glad she fixed it here in the video, but now I have to go watch the rest of the series where they’re not fixed 😭 It makes the dress look too small and makes me claustrophobic seeing it cut off their boobs haha
Me watching the first three minutes of Bridgerton: WHY ARE YOU TIGHT LACING REGENCY?! THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE!
one of the periods where a corest/stay for shape was the least needed also
I just rolled my eyes... So used to this nonsense at this stage.
ME TOO
Me too!! Also when they showed the marks on Daphne’s back from the corset I was like “THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DONT WEAR ANYTHING UNDERNEATH!! ALSO WHY DOES THAT CORSET LOOK LIKE ITS NEVER BEEN WORN?!” Like Ik its a show so it definitely hasn’t been worn but at least make it LOOK like she doesn’t do the same thing with corsets that she apparently does with dresses
@@oliviarouse2361 Exactly my response!!!
Its a Historical Erotic Fantasy, that is the genera.
👌
Genre.
I just loved the fact that the queen has Pomeranians and fed them with a golden spoon! This was a very entertaining series and loved the fact that it wasn’t historically accurate.
When the show opened with that tight laced corset without any sign of a chemise underneath it I shouted "They did not wear corsets like that back then!" for all my family to hear. Then I said to myself "What will Karolina have to say about this? Huh?!"
100% 😂
When I started hating the show, I googled "Bridgerton Karolina Zebrowska" because I NEEDED some trash talk.
I was hesitant about watching it to begin with so when I saw that I just turned it straight off 😅
VERBATIM what I shouted
@@aranaemantsal8109 me too! Oh thank god. I can finally let it out
When I saw the show all I thought was “what would Karolina say?”
This is me everytime I watch a period drama.
Me too!
I was waiting for Karolina and Bernadette to comment on them, tbh
@@teenelf me too
Right
I gave Bridgerton a pass when I discovered it was based on a romance novel, and then read that novel. The costume problems were present in the source material too (for example, tight lacing corsets in the regency era, and the whole "wear it once" thing mentioned).
I'm usually a stickler for historical accuracy, but this show was entertaining enough to swallow.
It never once claimed to be accurate and that helped me overcome the inaccuracies! Shows like Reign that are close to real life but only when they feel like it just pain me
Same
@crush broke its historical fantasy produced by a black woman who would god forbid like to enjoy the regency period despite slavery and all the other fuckuppery that was going on. I don't see a problem.
@crush broke I could not disagree with you more.
@@allypally1768 Well said
The Featherington sisters’ style of clothing remind me of Cinderella’s step sisters in the Disney live action remake.
And the main character looks like Wendy darling.
Yes! That whole family is a Cinderella remake. Right down to the two sisters and mother who was mean to the distant cousin and keeping her hidden away
Yep and same with their goofiness and relationship with their mother
There is always a Tremaine group somewhere.
Mrs. Featherington was the worst. I could deal with it being a new interpretation most of the time, fun Regency "inspired" fluff, but her dresses were basically out of the 1980's. I expected her to be ordering a vodka and asking for a Valium.
I think it's literally Gossip Girl set in a fantastical "regency" era
I made the same “Gossip Girl” connection, glad I’m not the only one.
This. Plus Gossip Girl is already kinda alternative history of circa 2010.
At least three of the Bridgerton novels were released two years before the gossip girl books so technically they had this conceit first.
@@sarahburnett6502 I wouldn't argue, but the show is clearly Gossip Girl inspired
@@sarahburnett6502 wow, so gossip girl is loosely based on Bridgerton... The more you know. Thanks for the info!
all the featheringtons looked like they were wearing curtains 😩
honestly, really glad you had the disclaimer at the beginning RE: costume design is not all about accuracy. there's a level of entertainment and meeting audience expectations--whether those expectations are accurate or not--that can sometimes take precedence.
the disclaimer at the beginning just helps me know that you're doing a good-faith analysis. much easier to watch!!
I don’t see why sooo many costume designers feel that period costumes need a ‘modern, contemporary twist’. It implies that modern audiences lack the insight to relate to and enjoy historical aesthetics as they were without them being made more ‘cool’ and ‘sexy’. Also if I wanted to see modern clothing I would just watch a modern movie. The reason many people watch historical dramas is to be transported to a different time/place.
pretty sure it’s the producers pressuring the designers because they think it sells better
Yes thank you 👍
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@ I would so much rather watch something that’s historically accurate and yet still beautiful and high quality, rather than watching something for the *aesthetic*
THIS!!
Give the children what they want: historically accurate undergarments
At this point; actors could stroll across the screen in modern shoulders with blatantly plastic materials, beach waves, a modern contour, and ugg boots, but if you include a scene in which the women undress to reveal properly worn, HA corsets, padding, and sHiFts the costume community would stand and applaud.
Check out season 2 of A discovery of Witches- they have an epic woman getting dressed scene and it is fab
This whole show is some kind of bizarre historical fantasy. They could wear space suits as far as I care. I watched for 10 seconds and realized this wasn't for me.
Same
Never watched it, even when people told me I should. I want historical accuracy, not made up trash. Not for me either.
@@zinmomo7192 I read the books, then I heard Shonda Rimes was going to produce the series. That was enough for me. Besides, I'm older and I'll leave historical romance fantasies to young women who still indulge in those.
"Respect the drip Karen" caught me off guard XD lmao
Spoiler: So for Queen Charlotte, the king has dementia, and when he is lucid, he still thinks hes several year back. We are given the impression that the queen and king dont get along, until the dr says that the king is lucid, and she rushes to him. Could the queen be wearing older styles to try to comfort the king when hes lucid and she never knows when that's going to be? I'm not sure how far behind the times the queens dresses are.
See the Haute LeMode channel for his review. He explains why the queen dresses one way and everyone else wears more modern dresses and silhouettes
This was my interpretation as well. The obviously 18th styles bothered me until I saw that scene.
In real life the queen actually stayed in the same fashion all the way through and that's why she is in a earlier fashion in the show as well (from an interview with the designer on Insta).
Love this view!
@I for in private and in portraits she did wear the modern style. But the dress protocol for public/court appearances was based on the older styles and even mandated panniers.
I was watching this and was so confused by the tiaras, feathers and silhouettes. Regency? Rococo? Edwardian? MAKE UP YOUR MIND COSTUMERS!!
Surprisingly, in the court scenes they got the feathers right! That's how they would have been put when creating a court/gala outfit.
Costumers: YES
I think it was very intentionally done to reflect different people because the silhouettes remain consistent as far as who wears what shape throughout
@@waterissogood It was! I see so many people saying that they were bothered by the inaccurate stuff but honestly it was just a light very fun show to watch. And as someone who has no knowledge about the accurate costumes stuff, I loved every part of the show.
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Regcocodian? Reedcoco? Rocoregened?
Can we also mention how after a death, I won't say who, THEY DIDN'T WEAR BLACK!!!!
It would be white, correct?
@@cremetangerine82 no, before the 19th century to signal mourning women wore black. It’s almost a rule.
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Do you know when the tradition of wearing black for mourning started?
@@cremetangerine82 it was strictly a 19th century thing. It began during Queen Victoria’s reign after she mourned her husband Prince Albert
@@theblackdaria_ Black mourning clothes existed in Europe way before that, during the 16th century (around the 1500s), there was a French queen who also dressed all black to mourn her husband's death. She was Catherine de Medicis.
Wow!😃 She really knows her stuff. Whenever someone wants to make a show that includes historical clothing, they need to come to her. 👍🏾😺
While watching Bridgerton I literally googled "when were sequins invented" because I was distracted by the glitter lol
Bridgerton is to the Regency Period as A Knights Tale is to Medieval Period. A recreation of spirit, not of accuracy.
10000% agree
YESS!!!
This is the best comment so far.❤️
Such a good movie, I wish his smile didn’t make me sad now. It’s just too beautiful
Yes, I used exact comparison to explain Bridgerton to my friend who was out of the loop.
For me this was this kinda regency fantasy romance, so I didn't expect it to be acurate nor care that it wasn't.
"it's like mixing a magic potion"
Okay you cannot tell me that Karolina isn't an immortal witch who's lived through all the eras,seeing how fashion changes
Mother gothel who? I only know meme mom
My coworker suggested this to me as a "Historical Romance." Little did I know when I got home it was NOT what I expected. I agree on SOOOO many points and I wish everyone could watch this video OMG.
"Jane Austen fanfic"
as a wattpad and ao3 writer , it is actually very similar to the plot lines lmao
Srsly the best description. It was honestly so impressive to watch them fit in so many different popular tropes.
I mean, she was the first regency romance writer. Some even credit her with the creation of the genre.
The Colors were honestly my favorite part. We see those neutrals and creams and faded colors too much and I was so pleased that the designer for Bridgerton used color!! I know it wasn’t accurate and my ribs and boobs definitely hurt when I saw those stays being worn without Chemises (the chafing *shudder*) but I thoroughly enjoyed the fun aspect of it all. Not too mention from a pure construction point Queen Charlottes wigs are fantastic. They’re their own characters 😂
I LOVED her wigs lol. Sure, they’re not historically accurate but I think the SPIRIT is accurate. “Rich aristocracy utterly bored by social norms, does ridiculous shit to try and have some fun and no one is allowed to call her on it”. It all checks out.
My biggest issue of color was with the actors.
@@brofistingfister2747 are you actually fucking serious right now
Brofisting Fister bruh. They literally had an in universe explanation for that. The only reason you have a problem is because you’re racist.
@@brofistingfister2747 begone Troll, you have no power here.
I learned a lot while watching this video- thank you! The costumes were driving me bonkers while watching this show, and I am glad to see I was not alone in that. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise!
I love that you get into all of the details of historically accurate clothing. I love historical fashion so these videos are awesome!
The “I should have you whipped tho” part had me crying 😭
Haha me too!
I definitely gasped at the ridiculous corset scene at the beginning and thought immediately that Karolina would have.. words
My husband had to calm me down from ranting at the television
I think they wanted a Scarlet O'Hara corset moment.
I really enjoyed watching this! Your tone and delivery is perfect - especially the unimpressed “thanks for watching” at the end 🤣
This is one of the most interesting channels I've found in recent memory. You make such good videos. Your depth of knowledge on the subject matter blows my mind every time. And on top of that, the videos are funny. Thank you so much for your work. What an amazing time to be alive
To me it was more fantasy than historically accurate. I couldn't imagine such wealth (even though they had so much money) being feasible at the time.
Most of the wealth came from the slave trade.
@@Italiana911 yes but they weren’t that wealthy at the time. To me it was a modern era theme taken to the past so the theme made more sense. The sister of the main character had a horrible posture not acceptable for the era. I get she’s tomboyish but the posture was a no no.
I'm pretty sure it was a historical fantasy or smthing
@@debra1663 even if it was u atleast gotta get two key concepts right. Mannerisms and clothings right. The clothing was way off from original. Remember they did it based on one time period.
@@carmencapa6945 yeah true , sorry
I was under the impression that it wasn’t supposed to be historically accurate.
Yeah I’m pretty sure you can figure that out within five minutes given the costuming, casting, dialogue... it was fun anyway though
@Charisma Girl She knows that it's a real time period, she just doesn't care. All she wants to do is to create a fantasist show.
@Charisma Girl Yeah, exactly, she's open that it's a fantasist show. She doesn't lie, she's honest.
@Charisma Girl Bridgerton is set in an alternate reality. It's not trying to be real history, it is a fantasy story.
And no, it is not cultural appropriation. Anyone can wear dresses from different time periods in history.
@Charisma Girl chill
I just wanted to say that your style is so gorgeous!!! your hair is amazing. Love it!
I've been calling it Gossip Girl meets Jane Austen (and I haven't even seen it)
Even though the costumes weren’t historically accurate, I do give the designers credit. I think they did a really great job reflecting each character through their wardrobe.
I think the dresses r beautiful too but it’s not historically accurate. Some of characters has mannerism that weren’t acceptable of the time period. Wat personally bugged me was the POSTURE of some characters. If ur gonna do a old age move u better be accurate about the dress and mannerisms (Posture) of problem of the time period. Or atleast not deviate too much from the dresses of the time period which failed to do
I agree. I knew they weren't too accurate but I feel like they wanted to have fun with the costumes and I believe they did and it showed. I quite enjoyed the costumes.
@@carmencapa6945 You really gonna complain about historical accuracy in a series that literally features people of color as nobility? It's not meant to be historically accurate. If they were going for that, they wouldn't have been playing Ariana Grande's song at balls. I don't understand why people want historical accuracy in fictional works. If you wanted historical accuracy, go watch a documentary or something.
@@333pinkelephant333 the dresses and postures r a must even in historic fiction. Or else don’t claim it’s from a time period but just say it is a fantasy movie inspired by historic dresses. The black people, They r people. I couldn’t care less that that part about history is not accurate wat I do care is the costumes and posture (mannerisms). IT’S NOT ABOUT WHO PLAYS WHO. It’s about the accuracy or attempt of such in dresses and mannerism these characters portray. The way they portray “oh racism is this easy to rid” is for another complain I have but nonetheless I think they shouldn’t have mentioned their color and went with “it’s the way it is”.
except featherington. yeah, it was really obviously not attempting historical accuracy, it was playful. and i really loved some of the queens hairdos, because they played with the texture of african hair in a regency era, it was wild and fun!
i just wish it hadn't gone full porn, cause i was watching it with my mom...
Found my husband, who usually watches only action/bollywood movies, watching Bridgerton alone in the living room. He looked confused.
Lol
Probably wondering why they made White characters black... despite it meaning unnecessary and ahistorical.
@@brofistingfister2747 It's a historical FANTASY, bro. EVERYTHING is ahistorical in it!
And it is absolutely not unnecessary, because people of colour want to see themselves in Regency pieces too, and not just as servants and slaves.
I love the mental image this gave me.
@Warned Storm plus, it opens up more casting choices. Simon and Lady Danbury were well cast.
Please do one of those for the series "Dark". They have a lot of different decades and even centuries going on, so it would be an interesting analysis.
I just watched the first episode, and literally was in shock at the messy costuming! I was saying almost the same thing as you in regards to the fabric and jewelry looking like a High School play production and the concept being from a 12th grade fanfic.
So I watched the entire series and it seems the costumes got much better and I ended up liking the series! The production and sets were really beautiful. I enjoyed the story and the duke has now replaced Jamie Frasier as sexiest fictional male character in a period drama!( I never thought that could happen but it did)
I thought that the Featheringtons were supposed to be horribly out-of-fashion, so I took the corset, bright colors, wrong silhouettes, etc. as a purposeful (albeit fantasy-esque) reflection of that
yeah if I remember correctly in the book for Pen and Colin she has a glow up and doesn't follow her mom's fashion. she stopped wearing yellow because it clashed with her hair
Yeah it was entirely the point. They (especially mama f) are a very gauche family, who don't really get it. Pen comes into her own as she ages and leaves the tacky behind.
I also thought the corset scene was about the mum being cruel and meant to be unfashionable and atypical
Yes, if you are viewing the show as pure fantasy, the Feathertons' clothing does reinforce the plot point that they are are a garish family. However for me it was still very off-putting because in 1813 they literally didn't have the technology to create the colors and patterns that are worn by the Featheringtons. And while I understand that the show is set in an alternate timeline fantasy version of 1813 London that is socially more advanced than it actually was, they give no indication that their setting is technologically more advanced.
@@jenniferskinner2843 I agree with that, some of the more plastic-looking pieces pulled me out of it. But I don’t mind the idea of what the costumer was going for
I think it's not "our timeline". The same that Game of Thrones isn't our medieval period, but has a very medieval feeling.
That’s how I look at fictional fantasy things like this. Has touchstones in our reality but it’s a parallel dimension haha.
yes but if it comes to Game of Thrones it is obvious it takes place in other world and timeline and in Bridgertons it is said that it takes place in London in 1814(?) so well... it is nothing to compare. It would be okay if Bridgertons was in another universe but it is in our world. That makes it disappointing.
@@leucantheum8682 It has black queen. Did we have black queen in our timeline? We did not. It's obviously not our timeline. It is closer to us than Game of Thrones but it's not us.
Yes exactly. It is not our timeline then why they insinuated the year at the beginning of the show? It is just pointless. I know it is a completely fantasy series then I dont like they want to pretend it happens in 1813.
I just wanted to show my point, Game of Thrones does not have this issue because there no one tries to tell us that this is our world.
@@leucantheum8682 But they're very clearly telling that this is not our world. But it is close to our world. And the year is mentioned like once.
You are so much fun to watch and learn from! Makes me want to watch this series.
I have been waiting for this and its everything I expected and moree!!! you are the bestttttt!
My husband feels very cultured now that he can criticize the killer corset trope thanks to your videos and he promptly did so in the loudest most bro way when he saw the trailer on Netflix.
He sounds like a keeper 👍
😂
That's adorable.
“YO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? THAT’S TOO TIGHT, BRO! AND WHERE’S THE CHEMISE? HER RIBS NEED SOME CUSH. THIS IS WRONG, FAM”
Meme mom looking like a librarian and i love it
A librarian in a thirties noir pic 🍿💜
Uwielbiam twoje filmy, mogę dzięki nim uzupełniać swoją wiedzę o modzie co pomaga mi w szyciu sukienek, które nie wyglądają jak wymysł własny, a faktyczne sukienki z danych lat. Dodatkowo dzięki twoim filmom uczę się angielskiego. Uwielbiam Cię oglądać ^^
I love that you are taking the time to pull apart some of these things from this show. Then you're gonna have people going around actually thinking this is somewhat accurate costuming etc
saw that corset tightening scene & immediately had to get up & go somewhere else to chill
It’s in the fucking trailer. 😭😭
i saw it and the first thing i thought was oh no karolina gonna be mad
Same, the cringe hit hard :c
Idk I saw it and am like "already this is bullshit XD"
Stopped watching after they introduce themselves
Ohh wow thank you for sharing your knowledge and also including reference images!! Bridgerton fashion really did look weird since the beginning of the series... But you summed it up pretty well: historical fantasy 🙌🏻
Omg please do a whole video on Reign costumes!! I used to love it and seeing that picture just opened my eyes
It does read/feel like fanfic, specially for the "enemies to lovers/fake pretend realtionship trope"
It definitely feels like a fanfiction but in a good way
It was based on a series of romance novels! So basically
Most romances Netflix has presented on the last 2 years or so look like fanfic! Think of the kissing booth and to all the boys i've loved before 😅
But I can't deny my love for Bridgerton
I find this line of critique rather myopic, these types of storylines originated in romance novels not fanfic culture. But modern young women are significantly more likely to have read reams of free fanfic instead of having read romance novels (which you’d either need to spend money for or visit the library for, much less convenient), so they are more likely to interpret romance entertainment through the lens of fanfic.
but the thing is enemies to lovers or fake dating trope didn't originate in fanfiction... they originated in romance novels
In one of the scenes I blurted out "she's not wearing a chemise under her corset!"
I got a weird side eye from mum 😋
Costube is rubbing off on me 😄
No chemise and petticoats, then they added drawers!
@@terrichicosky3166 Gasp! Drawers! How could they! Seriously, those weren't a thing at that time, nobody wore them.
Haha I did the same thing while watching!
How big is Costube? I'm only aware of Karolina.
@ I Am A Mess
Same I almost got banned from my watch party. 😬😓
After watching your channel for a while now, it’s made me hyper aware of historical fashion inaccuracies in tv shows and movies🥲 it’s a blessing and a curse
I remember thinking it was really weird that the literal QUEEN was wearing a complete different style of clothing during the show like she never left the previous era