Can I just say that I love when she points out a part thats more fantastical than historically accurate (like the trimmings) she does so in an incredibly positive way. It's less: "This isn't right!" And more "What an amusing take on this, that would otherwise be this." We need more neutral humans in the world. Ugh you go girl! 👏
I thought it was absolutely ridiculous to show them “tight” lacing corsets only to throw on an empire waist gown that COVERED EVERYTHING UP! Whyyyyyy? 😭. It felt so stupid.
Exactly! The actresses were complaining about how uncomfortable the corsets were, but the proper corsets for that era were a lot more like modern bras…..
Thank you. I feel like they may have intentionally made her outfits unflattering for what? To make it more obvious she was "token big girl" in the series? Being a bigger girl.with a bigger bust, just made me sad.
Her outfits were unflattering because it was a big point in the books. In book canon, her mom controlled her wardrobe and made her wear those dresses. Penelope knew she was dressed hideously. It is even said that the silhouette of those dresses made her look bigger and colors did not suit her at all. In later books, she got her own money and her mom lost hope trying to marry her off, so Penelope started to dress herself up on her own. So this style is done intentionally.
I appreciate how you point out the inaccuracies so well, and explain why they could have been chosen by the costumer. Also your refined but occasionally cheeky tone is lovely.
I can't wait to see Penelope's glow up in her season. The costume designer chose colours that deliberately clashed with her skin tone to allow her to emerge as a true beautiful butterfly when it's her love story with Colin. Yes, it's very Cinder to Cinderella but I can't wait.
I don't even know if that logic stands anymore. Fashion history has seen a boom over the past few years especially due to RUclips and social media creators who are educating the masses to historical costume accuracy. They should take note and start dressing their actors properly
If you think of the show as fantasy, rather than historical fiction, the costumes are rather fun, but they have about as much historical accuracy as a Party City Halloween costume.
Bridgerton is more of an AU than fantasy. My issue with the AU is that the writers purported to address racial issues and said there was going to be a diverse cast, but, overwhelmingly, the cast was white as a sheet--one or two East Asian actors and a handful of Black characters but no Blacks among the extras is NOT a diverse cast--and there was maybe one line that acknowledged race, and that line left the door wide open for a shitload of racial issues in Bridgerton'verse to be addressed the show completely ignored. The show NEEDS at least one writer of color.
Party City is polyester and plastic galore🗑️, but they did aim to make the costumes expensive as possible with modern dior luxury textiles(I didn't like it), but in reality fashion back then was very simplistic, except the court dresses.
@@carrywon8767 Those court dresses were wild, I love their ridiculousness, with the paniers at bust height, and you never see those in films or on tv. :D
Honestly while I don’t mind the historical inaccuracies because I see the tv series as more of a fantasy than an exact historical romance like the book. The only thing that really tickled me was the use of corsets. I’m so tired of seeing historical dramas demonize corsets especially when it’s so overdone and unnecessary.
Well-fit corsets shouldn’t be uncomfortable! Or at least not after you break it in like you would a newly bought shoe! However I imagine it could only be so comfortable to people with IBS or crohns/colitis though:/
@@Thatgeekycanadian It's a pet peeve of mine how corset-wearing is always portrayed as a hellish experience because tight-lacing/sexism/misogyny. It's also a pet peeve how people lump all shaping garments 1900 and before together as 'corsets', which, of course, makes them all EVIL OPPRESSIVE GARMENTS! *twitch* I've worn a corset before, and, when you're wearing a corset that's the correct size and the laces have been tightened correctly, it's comfortable. The purpose of the corset is to provide the desired shape and to provide support for all the layers of cloth you're going to be wearing--and, trust me, the weight of those layers add up--not to shrink your waist. You do NOT want to have to support the weight of six petticoats, plus your skirt (and possibly an overskirt), 100% on your hips for the entire day. I've seen pictures of a woman wearing an 1850s-ish dress with a corset (without undergarments, IIRC) and without, and the dress looks so much better on her when she's wearing the corset. It hung better on her, it fit her better, it was a cleaner and smoother look.
I'm a costume historian too and I had to get over how wrong the Bridgerton costumes were. Once I let that go and said, "Well, it is a romantic fantasy," then I could enjoy the costumes as stand-alones and enjoy the show more. Great video BTW
I appreciate Raissa Bretaña channeling the vitality of the Featherington family gowns. The series' costumes were fun, fabulous and fantastical creations which added to the attraction of this series.
I watch so many of these videos that when I watched Bridgerton I kept telling my husband that they would never wear a corset without something under it. I’m not sure he cared.
I'm not very familiar with regency fashion, and when I was watching Brigerton I thought it was just my modern sensibilities, but now that I see the direct comparison, Daphne's dresses definitely don't fit the way they should. The waistline needs to drop about an inch and cinch in about three inches. The proportions are all off. Why did they bother to make 104 dresses and not make them fit properly?
The Regent Prince George, who would go on to be George the 4th (and who obviously the Regency period is named after), was so fat he got custom made calf stuffers to make his legs look all that more manly and muscly.
I'm torn.....while the historically accurate looks are awesome, I still do like the fictionalized ones as well. I just tell myself that the characters of Bridgerton are doing cosplay on a daily basis...as I would love to do! :)
Information and the illustrations in this episode are honestly immaculate, I think it’s about time costume dramas which embrace the absolute oddball historical fashion trends like the real examples of English regency court gowns, you got a respect how fashion historian Ms. Raissa Bretana is always on the theme.
Personally I prefer clothes with historical elements but still appealing to modern audiences. I'm all for fictionalized clothes, as long as you can still tell the setting of the story.
Its a movie. Changes are made to the storyline and cast, why not make changes to the fashion and music also. The fashion was similarand close enough while adding pizzaz. Loved everything about it.
Why oh why do they not make the actresses wear chemises under the stays/corsets, and then proceed to show the scars left by the stays as a symbol of oppression like....🤦♀️ that's the point of wearing a chemise underneath
Daphne's dresses in the show tend to look cheap and ill fitting (incorrect foundation garments?). Maybe because she has so many costumes, they sacrificed quality for quantity. But because of her social position, I would rather she have fewer but much more rich looking fabrics and elegant styles.
A fun movie to review would be The Scarlett Pimpernel (starring Anthony Andrews, Jane Seymour, and Ian McKellen). The costumes are so fun and pretty closely accurate to the time period.
I really don't like that they make historical costumes inaccurate so that the modern consumer can handle them and still think the main characters are attractive. How narrow-minded do they think we are? Historical fashion is absolutely beautiful! When I watch a period piece, I want to be sucked into a different time and not get thrown off by modern interpretations of fashion in every scene.
I can understand the decision with bonnets, although it may have been better to have a slightly smaller brimmed hat. Mind you the whole series has so many anachronisms, the costumes are only one.
to be honest i agree fully with you but there's a very large audience full of people with poor taste who would definitely think they were less attractive sadly
Certainly for a period piece aiming for historical accuracy, but the Bridgerton series is not, it's more a faux historical romantic fantasy, based off a series of romance novels, not history tomes. As such I think it's completely appropriate to make the costumes only kind of accurate, much like the rest of the story.
I see Bridgerton as fantasy, much like the Disney live action adaptions, only for adults. Pretty fanfics with pretty fantasy dresses and not a drop of accuracy whatsoever. I love the dresses, but I know that they are as accurate as having the men wear jeans would have been.
Too bad they went for quantity of quality, and I think I heard somewhere they wanted to make the costumes more bright and fun, well Emma did that and still were historically accurate as possible, every dress was the more memorable for that.
I think it's important to note that the costuming isn't the only fantastical element in the series, but the fact that they are NOT historically entirely accurate contributes to the overall sense of whimsy and fantasy that is its actual tone. (2020s pop songs played by a string quartet at a ball, anyone?)
Fun fact Marie Antoinette and Queen Charlotte is a dear friend tho they never see each other but they wrote letters to each other quite often , when the French revaluation hit , queen Charlotte ready to help Marie by readying a room for her dear friend who unfortunately never fled to England
I love that she doesn't get snotty about shows being historically inaccurate, she gets why. Some fashion historians can be pretty rude when pointing things out.
You should start watching costube videos. There is a community dedicated to historical costume, people like Bernadette Banner, Karolina Zebrowska, Abby cox, Zack pinsent, priorattire and plenty others talk about historical fashion. Besides youtube, there are several books about historical fashion (I recommend looking on bookdepository) as well as fashion plates you can find online to see what fashion would have looked like in a particular year. Maybe this can help with your research 😊
Like Raissa said, it looks like it encases the main character's head. But the background actors wear them. They could wear a bonnet but with a smaller curved brim
the (marriage) season started after Lent, because Lent was carefully observed back then. The Parliamentary season was longer, but it still broke for Lent. No balls, no theatres, no social gatherings, no weddings were allowed during Lent. It lasted until the London stink got worse with the warmer weather, so the end of June. That was the season of marriage, when girls were presented at court and found a husband, but since Everyone knew Everyone, many matches were arranged beforehand.
Actually, if you go down the rabbit hole (research), there is some controversy about which months hosted The Season, and the Little Season as well. Check it out.
@@marymaryquitecontrary I did quite a bit of research into it at one time. The Little Season seems to be a non-event, and it was never referred to by that name during the Regency. Like many terms, it was a Victorian phrase, when they tried to reinvent the Regency at the end of the nineteenth century. They may have been in town but they didn't call it the Little Season. And the autumn was a good time for house parties. The Season was that small collection of months between the end of Lent and July, and that was when young girls were presented at Court and Parliamentary business was concluded for the summer. It wasn't nearly as neat and tidy as the novels would have you believe, though. It wasn't the only time people went to London, but since the centre of their power was in the country and the land, most aristocrats spent more time there than in town. But as I said, it wasn't neat and tidy. The politicians spent more time in London, for example, as did the high-ups in the army who were stationed at Whitehall. People came and went. Best to check the times the theatres and other entertainment venues were open, too, to see when high society was in town. A few aristocrats stayed in London all year round. Women would come to London to give birth, as that was where the good midwives were, and they refused to travel around the country. Check the letters of Lord Chesterfield, Parliamentary terms, the records left by Mr. Pretty the man-midwife, the newspapers of the time and the many letters available.
So to the people wanting to know more about the design choices, you have to watch Karolina Zebrowska's video on it. In the video, she explains why the busts of almost every dress are too high (mostly time constraints for fittings), why the costume designer chose modern fabrics over historical accuracy (mostly time constraints but also to make it feel more alive), and why we shouldn't be analyzing pieces of media by how historically accurate the dress is. Bridgerton has over 7500 unique costume pieces made in the span of a couple months. It's a fashion feat. And it looks amazing.
*When Raissa mention Hussars, I was half expecting the comment section to be flooded with Sabaton references (they did a song called "Winged Hussars")!*
Thank you for being so polite about the stylings, I cannot be so in future I'll point people to this video and hold my tongue. (Mind you I can'd forgive the Navy bra and the zip up boots in the close up shots! Grrrr - I'lll stop there)
I'd done some amateur research into Regency fashion for an RPG game, but I'm hearing so much new stuff here, especially about male fashion! Never heard about The Great Male Renunciation before, for example. Also, the leg muscle padding in pantaloons is such a great counterpart to women's padding then and now.
Male and female heads had to be covered out-of-doors, always. This custom continued until the 1960s. I think they should have showed hats and bonnets on everyone, camera angles, lighting, etc., can be adjusted.
I like the glamorous look of The Bridgertons, but I prefer the more natural looking fabrics like those seen in the BBC Pride and Prejudice miniseries and the 1995 movie, Persuasion. Saw a trailer for the remake of Persuasion, and it looks like they are going for the Bridgerton glam version of style. Pity.
The historically accurate costumes looked so much better than the ones in the show. I know they went for “innovative styles” and “sexiness”, but that didn’t make it look better, imho. And it’s not as if the production didn’t have the money to do it right… since they obviously spent a considerable amount on far more outfits than necessary and far more “fancier” ensembles than were typical for the time period. And a trained and award winning costume designer would have either known what was accurate and if not, they would have known were to find the applicable information. And that gawdily dressed Featherington family would have been shunned, at court and high society, regardless of their wealth. (Most of those “new money families” would have tried very hard to fit in!!!)
I loved all the costumes whether accurate to the period or not. Absolutely loved all the shades of blue used for the dresses! Now Where can I watch a video on the architecture and interior decor??? Just as interesting to me as the costumes worn!
I understood 'Bridgerton' to be a fantasy set in an alternate time line where various races were more elevated than historically accurate. Although based on the Recency period, it isn't supposed to 'be' the Recency period and so although fascinating, the points made here are very much moot.
I can accept Bridgeton having modernised versions of regency since I consider it regency fanfiction. What I can not tolerate is Netflix Persuation kind of situations where the main character is odd timetraveller while others are dressed more period accurately. Either commit to accuracy or stylize the whole cast (Like BBC Pride and Prejudice 95 or Bridgeton).
The spencer’s in BBC’s Pride and Prejudice were so beautiful! My favorites were Elizabeth’s evergreen ones. 😍And her bonnets (my favorite being the one with the burnt orange ribbon)!🤩
I have never seen this show… but I would watch it for the Feathering-ton family’s vibrant costume 😍. I also just realized how comfortable the womenswear was in the Regency period.
Can we please get ONE period piece that doesn't show the "Women tight-lacing a young woman to death" scene? With everyone standing around being like "Stop it, she can't breathe, this is too much!" A: That wasn't commonplace in most historical fashion. B: If it *were* that common, you wouldn't have people commenting on it so heavily - they would be used to it. I just don't understand what this trope adds to any of these shows or movies
I know people hate the Featherington's style and it's supposed to be tacky but I honestly love it. I do like that you didn't demonize them for not being perfectly accurate. The costumes for the main characters were close enough for the nature of the storytelling going on. To me it's like when people complain about too much light in a scene that's supposed to be candle lit, do you want accuracy or do you want to enjoy the scene? If you can't see the characters faces because of all the hats, you might as well just listen to an audio book.
I didn’t realise where I had seen the painting. I went to the Art Gallery last year for the first time in about 20 years, and so I knew I had seen it relatively recently.
i quite like the "odd" silhouette that the queen would have worn in this era- its really unique! honestly it resembles those baby doll dresses celebrities have been wearing- ariana grande wore lots of short, very poofy under the bust dresses for a while
I will admit that I stopped watching it at first because of that. But then a couple weeks later I went back knowing that it was fantasy and not even remotely historically accurate. After that I had a lot of fun.
I was quite bored by it tbh. At some point after episode 4 or so I just read the plot on Wikipedia and called it a day. Julie Andrews' voice was the only good thing about that show.
As soon as I saw Queen Charlotte in the trailer, I thought, "WTF century/alternate reality does this take place in?" It's so obviously out of place even for creative liberty.
I hate that they cut off ALL of the women's busts. An empire waist dress is entirely appropriate. But the "under bust seams" are really too high. It just looks silly. Like a child's dress.
I haven't watched the show yet, so open to respectful correction... The way she describes Penelope's wardrobe design seems to ACCENTUATE her size, as opposed to just... Flattering a not-skinny figure. Putting a waistline at the proper point below the bust would be a flattering look for her to show off her waist. But (considering this is a modern costume designer) it seems they are purposefully putting the waistline of the dress to high to make her seem wider. Like she would be the "token big girl" of the series ot something? Which seems a bit insulting, being a bigger girl myself with a bigger bust I know the frustration of never finding a rtw garment to fit my bust.. but this is a show, and also clothes were custom made back then. There is no excuse for them to not flatter her figure unless they were intentionally trying to make her look less appealing by making her looks unflattering???
I think that's the prevailing theory for this character. Someone said she loses about 20 lbs in the book where she becomes the main character, so I imagine they're just going to fit her clothes properly instead of making the actress lose weight. Voila! A gorgeous "slender" figure appears.
There's also the fact that there was hardly any time for actors to do fittings. If you look, almost all of the dresses everyone--including Daphne--wears are too high. It's more a time constraint than anything else. You only noticed it with Penelope because it was pointed out to you.
Penelope is a romantic lead later (in the books at least). They're probably setting up for a "makeover" where she will look much better, without actually having to lose weight.
Can I just say that I love when she points out a part thats more fantastical than historically accurate (like the trimmings) she does so in an incredibly positive way. It's less: "This isn't right!" And more "What an amusing take on this, that would otherwise be this."
We need more neutral humans in the world. Ugh you go girl! 👏
That is such a good observation.
Can't blame people for having opinions
Definitely hear you on the neutral humans part! 😊
Raissa is an extraordinary fashion historian. Her fluency in fashion history is astounding! Well done, Raissa!
Yes. Love her ❤
Ikr? She’s better than that other woman who did the Beauty And The Beast video!
I thought it was absolutely ridiculous to show them “tight” lacing corsets only to throw on an empire waist gown that COVERED EVERYTHING UP! Whyyyyyy? 😭. It felt so stupid.
Exactly! The actresses were complaining about how uncomfortable the corsets were, but the proper corsets for that era were a lot more like modern bras…..
fr like what are you tight lacing
Like the way regency stays were made it made them completely soft so all you’d be doing is ripping them if you try to tightlace
Hollywood will take any chance to demonize corsets, stays and pair of bodies😭
@@niarahancock4739 honestly tho
That's the most gentle way you could possibly describe the costuming catastrophe that is Penelope's dresses.
Thank you. I feel like they may have intentionally made her outfits unflattering for what? To make it more obvious she was "token big girl" in the series? Being a bigger girl.with a bigger bust, just made me sad.
Her outfits were unflattering because it was a big point in the books. In book canon, her mom controlled her wardrobe and made her wear those dresses. Penelope knew she was dressed hideously. It is even said that the silhouette of those dresses made her look bigger and colors did not suit her at all. In later books, she got her own money and her mom lost hope trying to marry her off, so Penelope started to dress herself up on her own. So this style is done intentionally.
@@SkittyBat read the books dumbass
It was like that in the book. It was supposed to show her mother's poor taste.
I know the across the bust seam was intentional but MY GOD it was painful to look at. Truly a crime against fashion.
I appreciate how you point out the inaccuracies so well, and explain why they could have been chosen by the costumer. Also your refined but occasionally cheeky tone is lovely.
Gotta rewatch Emma before this to relax my eyes
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@@fredericmigneret4211 the love of my life
I wish they had gone all-out with accurate English Regency court clothes. Those dresses were something else. And please, let them wear shifts.
agreed! and they had so many costumes that a lot of them looked cheaply made and kinda half assed. Lady danbury’s costumes were disgusting
When they showed daphne's corset bruises and rashes, I nearly screamed Let.Them.Wear.Shifts. FYI justice for the bonnets.
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I have worn enough corsets and stays that even the sight of someone wearing one without a shift makes me wince and clutch my ribs.
Hopefully they'll make some changes with season 2. 🤞
I can't wait to see Penelope's glow up in her season. The costume designer chose colours that deliberately clashed with her skin tone to allow her to emerge as a true beautiful butterfly when it's her love story with Colin. Yes, it's very Cinder to Cinderella but I can't wait.
As ususal, side characters are much more historically accurate than the principal characters, that have to appeal to modern audiences.
I don't even know if that logic stands anymore. Fashion history has seen a boom over the past few years especially due to RUclips and social media creators who are educating the masses to historical costume accuracy. They should take note and start dressing their actors properly
Except for the maids. What's with the Victorian caps and capes?
If you think of the show as fantasy, rather than historical fiction, the costumes are rather fun, but they have about as much historical accuracy as a Party City Halloween costume.
What do you mean? They are somewhat accurate.
Bridgerton is more of an AU than fantasy. My issue with the AU is that the writers purported to address racial issues and said there was going to be a diverse cast, but, overwhelmingly, the cast was white as a sheet--one or two East Asian actors and a handful of Black characters but no Blacks among the extras is NOT a diverse cast--and there was maybe one line that acknowledged race, and that line left the door wide open for a shitload of racial issues in Bridgerton'verse to be addressed the show completely ignored. The show NEEDS at least one writer of color.
Party City is polyester and plastic galore🗑️, but they did aim to make the costumes expensive as possible with modern dior luxury textiles(I didn't like it), but in reality fashion back then was very simplistic, except the court dresses.
✨Regency fanfiction✨
@@carrywon8767 Those court dresses were wild, I love their ridiculousness, with the paniers at bust height, and you never see those in films or on tv. :D
Honestly while I don’t mind the historical inaccuracies because I see the tv series as more of a fantasy than an exact historical romance like the book. The only thing that really tickled me was the use of corsets. I’m so tired of seeing historical dramas demonize corsets especially when it’s so overdone and unnecessary.
I could watch Emma for hours! Emma's outfits were straight out of a Regency Fashion plate, and gorgeous!
I know the reason they didn’t make it as accurate was because it would take Simon 5 hours to take off Daphne’s clothes.
😂 I snorted at this because it’s true!
Yeah at the time they would not be taking off every thing just for a little afternoon delight
No it wouldn’t considering the fact that she would just have three layers and no underwear because underwear or drawers were not a thing at the time
He can just lift the skirt... They don't wear panties
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Corsets: Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your family!
Stays: Sighs in relief.
Well-fit corsets shouldn’t be uncomfortable! Or at least not after you break it in like you would a newly bought shoe! However I imagine it could only be so comfortable to people with IBS or crohns/colitis though:/
@@Thatgeekycanadian I know, I just thought she was gonna call stays corsets.
@@Thatgeekycanadian It's a pet peeve of mine how corset-wearing is always portrayed as a hellish experience because tight-lacing/sexism/misogyny. It's also a pet peeve how people lump all shaping garments 1900 and before together as 'corsets', which, of course, makes them all EVIL OPPRESSIVE GARMENTS! *twitch* I've worn a corset before, and, when you're wearing a corset that's the correct size and the laces have been tightened correctly, it's comfortable. The purpose of the corset is to provide the desired shape and to provide support for all the layers of cloth you're going to be wearing--and, trust me, the weight of those layers add up--not to shrink your waist. You do NOT want to have to support the weight of six petticoats, plus your skirt (and possibly an overskirt), 100% on your hips for the entire day. I've seen pictures of a woman wearing an 1850s-ish dress with a corset (without undergarments, IIRC) and without, and the dress looks so much better on her when she's wearing the corset. It hung better on her, it fit her better, it was a cleaner and smoother look.
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Once again, Raissa’s brooch game is on point!
I'm a costume historian too and I had to get over how wrong the Bridgerton costumes were. Once I let that go and said, "Well, it is a romantic fantasy," then I could enjoy the costumes as stand-alones and enjoy the show more. Great video BTW
I actuallly liked the historical version of Daphnes dress
Me too. The historically accurate ones are more appealing than the "creative route" taken by the costume designer.
I appreciate Raissa Bretaña channeling the vitality of the Featherington family gowns. The series' costumes were fun, fabulous and fantastical creations which added to the attraction of this series.
I watch so many of these videos that when I watched Bridgerton I kept telling my husband that they would never wear a corset without something under it. I’m not sure he cared.
I was yelling at the tv the whole time.
WHY WOULD YOU TIGHT LACE IF YOU CANT SEE THE WAIST!!!!!!
oh my god same, my husband was eventually like "it's fiction, it doesn't matter all that much"
I'm not very familiar with regency fashion, and when I was watching Brigerton I thought it was just my modern sensibilities, but now that I see the direct comparison, Daphne's dresses definitely don't fit the way they should. The waistline needs to drop about an inch and cinch in about three inches. The proportions are all off. Why did they bother to make 104 dresses and not make them fit properly?
I would still love to see historical accurate costumes in movies. I mean, who says these people are not relatable to us.
You should see Emma! It was nominated for best costume designe. They are 99.9% accurate and beautiful to look at.
@@florenciapena233 they're perfect!
You must see the tv version of pride and prejudice. I think that's accurate
@@Ryanmanification it's not lol
Dangerous Liasons starring Glenn Close has completely accurate costuming.
emma (2020) has great examples of accurate regency-era fashion if anyone is interested in checking it out
I love so much that the guys would wear padding for their musculature. If your thighs are a lie, don't come at me when I stuff my bra.😂
This is still done...just watch football (US football). You can see the outline of the pads! LOL
Some men also wore stays around the waist or structured vests that were very fitted, to slim the waist
@@Costumerchx girdles for the win! I am having so many flashes to Zap Brannigan.
The Regent Prince George, who would go on to be George the 4th (and who obviously the Regency period is named after), was so fat he got custom made calf stuffers to make his legs look all that more manly and muscly.
This is why DRAG QUEENS rule the world! Not only do they wear padding, sis they make it themselves!
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I'm torn.....while the historically accurate looks are awesome, I still do like the fictionalized ones as well. I just tell myself that the characters of Bridgerton are doing cosplay on a daily basis...as I would love to do! :)
Information and the illustrations in this episode are honestly immaculate, I think it’s about time costume dramas which embrace the absolute oddball historical fashion trends like the real examples of English regency court gowns, you got a respect how fashion historian Ms. Raissa Bretana is always on the theme.
Honestly, the historically accurate costumes look better than the fictionalized ones
Agree to disagree 😏
Personally I prefer clothes with historical elements but still appealing to modern audiences. I'm all for fictionalized clothes, as long as you can still tell the setting of the story.
Although I have to admit I'm kind of sick of the dramatic corset lacing trope in modern films. 😒 It's getting really old.
Right???
Its a movie. Changes are made to the storyline and cast, why not make changes to the fashion and music also. The fashion was similarand close enough while adding pizzaz. Loved everything about it.
I like how the Queen Charlotte series actually had her wearing a chemise under her stays.
Why oh why do they not make the actresses wear chemises under the stays/corsets, and then proceed to show the scars left by the stays as a symbol of oppression like....🤦♀️ that's the point of wearing a chemise underneath
Love Raissa and I love the lady doing the narrating too! The Bridgerton costumes were literal shenanigans but I had fun watching it!
finally a good illustrator
I love Raissa’s analysis and insights ⭐️ The costumes in Bridgerton were gorgeous and it’s interesting to see the historical comparison.
Daphne's dresses in the show tend to look cheap and ill fitting (incorrect foundation garments?). Maybe because she has so many costumes, they sacrificed quality for quantity. But because of her social position, I would rather she have fewer but much more rich looking fabrics and elegant styles.
I agree, cheap satin and mesh tulle can be distracting
Loved the twinkle in her eye at "...in areas where men may be lacking..."
A fun movie to review would be The Scarlett Pimpernel (starring Anthony Andrews, Jane Seymour, and Ian McKellen). The costumes are so fun and pretty closely accurate to the time period.
1:47 Daphne
9:31 Simon
15:56 Penelope
21:21 Queen Charlotte
I really don't like that they make historical costumes inaccurate so that the modern consumer can handle them and still think the main characters are attractive. How narrow-minded do they think we are?
Historical fashion is absolutely beautiful! When I watch a period piece, I want to be sucked into a different time and not get thrown off by modern interpretations of fashion in every scene.
I can understand the decision with bonnets, although it may have been better to have a slightly smaller brimmed hat. Mind you the whole series has so many anachronisms, the costumes are only one.
to be honest i agree fully with you but there's a very large audience full of people with poor taste who would definitely think they were less attractive sadly
Certainly for a period piece aiming for historical accuracy, but the Bridgerton series is not, it's more a faux historical romantic fantasy, based off a series of romance novels, not history tomes. As such I think it's completely appropriate to make the costumes only kind of accurate, much like the rest of the story.
I see Bridgerton as fantasy, much like the Disney live action adaptions, only for adults. Pretty fanfics with pretty fantasy dresses and not a drop of accuracy whatsoever. I love the dresses, but I know that they are as accurate as having the men wear jeans would have been.
Too bad they went for quantity of quality, and I think I heard somewhere they wanted to make the costumes more bright and fun, well Emma did that and still were historically accurate as possible, every dress was the more memorable for that.
I think it's important to note that the costuming isn't the only fantastical element in the series, but the fact that they are NOT historically entirely accurate contributes to the overall sense of whimsy and fantasy that is its actual tone. (2020s pop songs played by a string quartet at a ball, anyone?)
Fun fact Marie Antoinette and Queen Charlotte is a dear friend tho they never see each other but they wrote letters to each other quite often , when the French revaluation hit , queen Charlotte ready to help Marie by readying a room for her dear friend who unfortunately never fled to England
Glamour, thank you for featuring Raissa Bretana. Your historical fashion videos are always a cut above the rest.
Around age 14: hems down, hair up and stays on. I think the real milestone was menarche, but of course, history would never mention such a thing.
I wish men could dress like peacocks again and no one is assuming anything
The problem isn't about image, its about money, people would dress lavish if they could.
I'm so obsessed with Bridgerton and I don't typically like those types of shows
I would love to hear your thoughts on the costumes for "Shadow and Bone". I'm absolutely loving the costumes on that show.
I love that she doesn't get snotty about shows being historically inaccurate, she gets why. Some fashion historians can be pretty rude when pointing things out.
Daphne's hairstyles are based on Audrey Hepburn as Natasha Rustova in War and Peace released in 1956.
Love this break down of the clothing! Thanks
“History Drama with fictional characters.”
Oh and here I thought it was simply Historical Fiction. Either way love the show.
I wish I had her knowledge to help me write ✍️ my historical novel.
You should start watching costube videos. There is a community dedicated to historical costume, people like Bernadette Banner, Karolina Zebrowska, Abby cox, Zack pinsent, priorattire and plenty others talk about historical fashion. Besides youtube, there are several books about historical fashion (I recommend looking on bookdepository) as well as fashion plates you can find online to see what fashion would have looked like in a particular year. Maybe this can help with your research 😊
@@an6596 where was your advice when I started with novel 😂 thank you so much 🙏
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Historical fashion trivia is SO addictive.
Where does she get all these spot-on, disney-bounding level of costume inspired clothing? She always look perfect for her topic! :)
Why do bonnets never appear in historical fiction? What do people have against them?? This is bonnet discrimination.
Have you seen Micarah Tewer's video "Why the costumes of Little Women did not deserve an oscar"? She goes into bonnet overload there!
At least they’re there in the Pride and Prejudice miniseries.
Like Raissa said, it looks like it encases the main character's head. But the background actors wear them. They could wear a bonnet but with a smaller curved brim
@@Ryanmanification I think that’s right, you wouldn’t be able to see the actors’ faces properly. However make them with much smaller brims.
The bonnets would be a lighting nightmare as they would cause unfortunate shadows. Which could possibly slow down the production.
this is such a fantastic series! i can only imagine the preparation and research took hours. good job 😊
Agree. I love this channel .
the (marriage) season started after Lent, because Lent was carefully observed back then. The Parliamentary season was longer, but it still broke for Lent. No balls, no theatres, no social gatherings, no weddings were allowed during Lent. It lasted until the London stink got worse with the warmer weather, so the end of June. That was the season of marriage, when girls were presented at court and found a husband, but since Everyone knew Everyone, many matches were arranged beforehand.
Actually, if you go down the rabbit hole (research), there is some controversy about which months hosted The Season, and the Little Season as well. Check it out.
@@marymaryquitecontrary I did quite a bit of research into it at one time. The Little Season seems to be a non-event, and it was never referred to by that name during the Regency. Like many terms, it was a Victorian phrase, when they tried to reinvent the Regency at the end of the nineteenth century. They may have been in town but they didn't call it the Little Season. And the autumn was a good time for house parties.
The Season was that small collection of months between the end of Lent and July, and that was when young girls were presented at Court and Parliamentary business was concluded for the summer. It wasn't nearly as neat and tidy as the novels would have you believe, though. It wasn't the only time people went to London, but since the centre of their power was in the country and the land, most aristocrats spent more time there than in town. But as I said, it wasn't neat and tidy. The politicians spent more time in London, for example, as did the high-ups in the army who were stationed at Whitehall. People came and went. Best to check the times the theatres and other entertainment venues were open, too, to see when high society was in town. A few aristocrats stayed in London all year round. Women would come to London to give birth, as that was where the good midwives were, and they refused to travel around the country. Check the letters of Lord Chesterfield, Parliamentary terms, the records left by Mr. Pretty the man-midwife, the newspapers of the time and the many letters available.
So to the people wanting to know more about the design choices, you have to watch Karolina Zebrowska's video on it. In the video, she explains why the busts of almost every dress are too high (mostly time constraints for fittings), why the costume designer chose modern fabrics over historical accuracy (mostly time constraints but also to make it feel more alive), and why we shouldn't be analyzing pieces of media by how historically accurate the dress is. Bridgerton has over 7500 unique costume pieces made in the span of a couple months. It's a fashion feat. And it looks amazing.
*When Raissa mention Hussars, I was half expecting the comment section to be flooded with Sabaton references (they did a song called "Winged Hussars")!*
Thank you for being so polite about the stylings, I cannot be so in future I'll point people to this video and hold my tongue. (Mind you I can'd forgive the Navy bra and the zip up boots in the close up shots! Grrrr - I'lll stop there)
Once I stopped obsessing over the historical inaccuracy of the show, I enjoyed it. Just take it for the mental romp that it is and enjoy
Good advice. I watched the first episode and the anachronisms bothered me. I think I will take a second look and watch it as a fantasy.
I love Karolyn’s Zebrowska but it seems that all she does these days is rip media to shreds… which kinda takes the fun out of it
what a great video. i loved hearing about about all the fashions of this era. Raissa is extremely knowledgeable.
I always love Raissa's videos!
Honestly I prefer all the historical outfits! I wish accuracy was more important to TV/Film costume creators 🤨
I'd done some amateur research into Regency fashion for an RPG game, but I'm hearing so much new stuff here, especially about male fashion! Never heard about The Great Male Renunciation before, for example. Also, the leg muscle padding in pantaloons is such a great counterpart to women's padding then and now.
2020 Emma did much better while maintaining historical accuracy
I wish Emma 2020 won an oscar for best costume design, the clothes were gorgeous and accurate
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@Nofa Fauzia I agree, most movies in the 90s were modern adaptations of novels in the 18th to 19th century!
I was hoping you guys would do this!!
Simon’s brocade waistcoat is much too fancy for day time, it would have been of a plain wool.
I think Simon would have looked even more handsome with that historically accurate outfit (maybe minus the hat)
Male and female heads had to be covered out-of-doors, always. This custom continued until the 1960s. I think they should have showed hats and bonnets on everyone, camera angles, lighting, etc., can be adjusted.
I like the glamorous look of The Bridgertons, but I prefer the more natural looking fabrics like those seen in the BBC Pride and Prejudice miniseries and the 1995 movie, Persuasion. Saw a trailer for the remake of Persuasion, and it looks like they are going for the Bridgerton glam version of style. Pity.
The historically accurate costumes looked so much better than the ones in the show. I know they went for “innovative styles” and “sexiness”, but that didn’t make it look better, imho. And it’s not as if the production didn’t have the money to do it right… since they obviously spent a considerable amount on far more outfits than necessary and far more “fancier” ensembles than were typical for the time period. And a trained and award winning costume designer would have either known what was accurate and if not, they would have known were to find the applicable information.
And that gawdily dressed Featherington family would have been shunned, at court and high society, regardless of their wealth. (Most of those “new money families” would have tried very hard to fit in!!!)
My favorite part of the queen's ensemble was the precious little Pomeranians.
The court dress looked like those toilet paper doll cozy thing.
You just unleashed some deep..deep deeeep memories 😭🤣🤣
My mom used to collect those!
I love how Raissa's outfit alwahs matches the theme :)
I loved all the costumes whether accurate to the period or not. Absolutely loved all the shades of blue used for the dresses!
Now Where can I watch a video on the architecture and interior decor??? Just as interesting to me as the costumes worn!
I understood 'Bridgerton' to be a fantasy set in an alternate time line where various races were more elevated than historically accurate. Although based on the Recency period, it isn't supposed to 'be' the Recency period and so although fascinating, the points made here are very much moot.
Except that Penelope's dress would have been white. Young ladies in her First Season would worn a white dress to a ball.
I can accept Bridgeton having modernised versions of regency since I consider it regency fanfiction. What I can not tolerate is Netflix Persuation kind of situations where the main character is odd timetraveller while others are dressed more period accurately. Either commit to accuracy or stylize the whole cast (Like BBC Pride and Prejudice 95 or Bridgeton).
I love this series and I would love to see the Marvelous Mrs Maisel next!!
The spencer’s in BBC’s Pride and Prejudice were so beautiful! My favorites were Elizabeth’s evergreen ones. 😍And her bonnets (my favorite being the one with the burnt orange ribbon)!🤩
I have never seen this show… but I would watch it for the Feathering-ton family’s vibrant costume 😍. I also just realized how comfortable the womenswear was in the Regency period.
Can we please get ONE period piece that doesn't show the "Women tight-lacing a young woman to death" scene? With everyone standing around being like "Stop it, she can't breathe, this is too much!"
A: That wasn't commonplace in most historical fashion.
B: If it *were* that common, you wouldn't have people commenting on it so heavily - they would be used to it.
I just don't understand what this trope adds to any of these shows or movies
That was so interesting, thank you!
Please one for Downton Abbey wardrobe!!
I know people hate the Featherington's style and it's supposed to be tacky but I honestly love it. I do like that you didn't demonize them for not being perfectly accurate. The costumes for the main characters were close enough for the nature of the storytelling going on. To me it's like when people complain about too much light in a scene that's supposed to be candle lit, do you want accuracy or do you want to enjoy the scene? If you can't see the characters faces because of all the hats, you might as well just listen to an audio book.
That painting at 14:20 is on display in the NSW art gallery!
I didn’t realise where I had seen the painting. I went to the Art Gallery last year for the first time in about 20 years, and so I knew I had seen it relatively recently.
The fashion history looks so happy in the thumbnail:)
“Historical” drama…. Truly more like fantasy drama
Would love to see an analysis and drawings of the dresses featured in The Empress
You can hear the pain in her voice
I love the Bridgerton’s family color💙
I like to think of Brigerton as hysterically accurate as apposed to historically
i quite like the "odd" silhouette that the queen would have worn in this era- its really unique! honestly it resembles those baby doll dresses celebrities have been wearing- ariana grande wore lots of short, very poofy under the bust dresses for a while
This lady is way too nice. I couldn't even finish bridgerton in large part because of the costumes.
I will admit that I stopped watching it at first because of that. But then a couple weeks later I went back knowing that it was fantasy and not even remotely historically accurate. After that I had a lot of fun.
I was quite bored by it tbh. At some point after episode 4 or so I just read the plot on Wikipedia and called it a day. Julie Andrews' voice was the only good thing about that show.
It wasn't meant to be historically accurate
Could you please do Murdoch Mysteries? Thanks!
As soon as I saw Queen Charlotte in the trailer, I thought, "WTF century/alternate reality does this take place in?" It's so obviously out of place even for creative liberty.
fun fact: Queens Charlotte & Marie Antoinette were long time pen pals.
I hate that they cut off ALL of the women's busts. An empire waist dress is entirely appropriate. But the "under bust seams" are really too high. It just looks silly. Like a child's dress.
Bonnets are always worn in Jane Austen movies.😳
ah honestly I would've loved it if Siena's outfit was also included here but oh well
I haven't watched the show yet, so open to respectful correction... The way she describes Penelope's wardrobe design seems to ACCENTUATE her size, as opposed to just... Flattering a not-skinny figure. Putting a waistline at the proper point below the bust would be a flattering look for her to show off her waist. But (considering this is a modern costume designer) it seems they are purposefully putting the waistline of the dress to high to make her seem wider. Like she would be the "token big girl" of the series ot something? Which seems a bit insulting, being a bigger girl myself with a bigger bust I know the frustration of never finding a rtw garment to fit my bust.. but this is a show, and also clothes were custom made back then. There is no excuse for them to not flatter her figure unless they were intentionally trying to make her look less appealing by making her looks unflattering???
I think that's the prevailing theory for this character. Someone said she loses about 20 lbs in the book where she becomes the main character, so I imagine they're just going to fit her clothes properly instead of making the actress lose weight. Voila! A gorgeous "slender" figure appears.
There's also the fact that there was hardly any time for actors to do fittings. If you look, almost all of the dresses everyone--including Daphne--wears are too high. It's more a time constraint than anything else. You only noticed it with Penelope because it was pointed out to you.
Penelope is a romantic lead later (in the books at least). They're probably setting up for a "makeover" where she will look much better, without actually having to lose weight.