Mercury Masterpiece, the Comet Cyclone
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- We wrap up the 64 Comet Cyclone and send her on home! After 6 years she needed a little fettling just to keep her running sweet.
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Love those old 289's. So easy to work on. Distributor right up front where it's supposed to be 😁
Yes, but with HEI there was no need to pull the distributor every 30k for a tube up! I had a bet with the older gentleman who opened the shop 42 years earlier. The weights didn't wear the holes. Follow the sticker and tune. Check the carb for improper adjustments was the main thing, then they vented the choke pull-off and had to block that. Making sure idle throttles completely closed, manual secondary opener worked as in clear flood mode, adjusting the secondary air valve spring load was very important as the would hesitate if opened too soon, ran doggedly is closed to long. Adjust the air fuel mixture after checking for vacuum leaks with Kent-Moore propane enrichment tool & hose and pinching off the carbon canister purge hose from thermal vacuum switch as the Q-jet was the only true variable vacuum secondaries on the market until Fire introduced the "VV7200 & VV7400". And found out the Ford dealer techs did not understand the enrichment circuit with a water manometer. It easy if you had the gauge. I have two that goes to 28" of H2o. 12" & 16" are forever burned into mind. Under warranty, the carb with a standard 2bbl carb and lost many customers because the LTD could run 24 mpg on the highway by only 16 at best with the antique 2bbl carb. It was a shame as these where horizontal versions of motor cycles and Stromburg carbs. Only Ford chose a rubber diaphragm instead of an aluminum top load spring the piston acted against when the throttle valve was opened. I spent hours with the Ford service mgr, who had two Ford Engineers come into the dealer after hours. I spent 2 hrs per night for 3 nights (Short on the third) but took my papers drawings of a motorcycle carb next to the VV7400, left and nothing happened. They all asked good questions but I felt it was not getting thru. They changed the diaphragm material and issued a "TSB", then had techs drill a 3/32" hole on the back cover, but it dripped gas onto the intake if the diaphragm started to leak. I gave up, went home and back to work. 3 or 4 months later, they asked to a meeting in a building to offer a position with customer relations between mad Ford owners and an engineer from they department that was responsible for the complaint. Example; They had B+ to the sunroof switch that was a "DPDT" switch to operate two relays and three limit switches! Back, stop, forward, stop while open (Vent Mode) then closed. I told them in house, you can't do that without thermal resetting NTC thermistor at the fuse block. We argued but I proved them wrong each time as they used 14 AWG wire up the "A" pillar" across the headliner. It pulls 22 amps at stop open. 23 amps to stop vent and 27 amps to stop closed and not thermal limit at the fuse box that was time delay or current sensitive. So instead of changing the harness and removing the 20 amp fuses, they put 25 amp fuses in the box. These are heat sensitive devices not current sensitive. So, over a 5 week period, 12 cars had fires. They ask me to fly to Atlanta GA to look at a sunroof fire (Thermal Event) i asked if they had changed the wiring harness and fuses to NTac thermistors, they no! So Why would waist time fly down there and tell the same thing I said in Omaha. No good answer except we want a fresh set of eyes on it. I told the Ford guy the Einstein quote; " Doing the same exact thing over & over, and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity". He hung up and never heard from them again! True...
DK, Omaha.
Carburetors do indeed suck....😉
Cool story!! Thanks for sharing. 😎👍
Eddie, couldn't agree more😁
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Yes, air is sucked into them. It is just the complexity added to them over the years to meet "CARB" requirements. Anaerobic chambers added to change A/F ratio depending on altitude. The "Boost Control Deceleration Device" that opens durning periods of high vacuum for allowing cleaned air to by-pass the carburetor completely to not allow any hydrocarbons out the tail pipe. Under certain conditions, this is when mufflers exploding . GM called it a "Gulp" valve. Then Honda introduced a solenoid controlled vacuum device that had 24 hoses. I stopped at this point. DK, ASE master tech since 78, retired.
The 289 "Special". 225 HP version. Had the tried and true 4V heads on it, and the Ford shoebox 4BBL. The cam was a milder spec than the K series engines, but this engine was a lot easier to drive every day, and it had plenty of giddy up to it.
It really does go pretty well!! Thanks for the info😎
Was that you who pointed out that the rear wheel covers are different from the front, because of the front hubs? Musclecar Campy featured a very similar example recently, and one of you two learnt me about those wheel covers. Those Chrome Reverse-looking wheel covers are some of my favorites! Others being the turbine-style ones on early C3 Vettes, and the mag-style ones seen on '67-'68 Shelbys, which were also used by GM on (I believe) mid '60s SS Chevelles, and even on some MOPARS. Each manufacturer used their own center badge on them. Also love the Magnum 500-looking covers used on '70s Ford trucks, and have a set! Then there are the Halibrand-looking wheel covers on the '66 Galaxie XL...
Uncle Tony and and I did a video on this car over on his channel when it first came in and he pointed out the caps there. Cheers mate!
Just enough rumble
Nice ride man! There were all sorts of 195, 200 ratings in other cars. The K code 64 Comete engine is the D code US 64 Falcon/ Fairlane engine, 210 HP, but may have been listed as 220 in some sources. The A code 225 HP engine was a mid 64 high compression option, first on the Mustang. Have a great day.
Hmm I read that the Cyclone had the 225 before the mustang that got it in 65.... a lot of information and misinformation on the internet🤔
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Probably some of it from me. I have been learning a lot. Its a pleasure to see what you do
Cheers mate!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 225 HP rating was 'A' code engine found in the '65 Cyclone. Mercury 'K' code in '64 Cyclone was lower compression. Same as 'D' code Ford engine in early Mustang.
Brinking back lots of memories Kiwi ,Thanks for the ride too. Nice area also ,scenic views great for cruising .👏👍
Glad you enjoyed it!!
You really have to admire that front end look you don’t see those anymore. Great job KIWI.👍
Thanks man and thanks for watching
Mercury is misspelled in the video's title Kiwi...gotta stop letting Kev post your vids for you
Well crap! Another brain fart....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Sometimes I wonder if that instead of brains, my skull is full of refried beans...
Lame-O youtube doesn't have a farting emoji... 🙄
I love cars with steel dashes and keys hanging from them. I prefer the 40's and early 50's cars though as they don't seem to rust out as bad. Those late 60's cars seem like they hold up no better than cheap toilet paper to the weather.
Yeah your right. Steel got thinner and lighter and cars didn't last so long. Progress?? Thanks for watching
Blimey kiwi, I just can't hear what you say most of the time mate. ✌️👍🇬🇧
One of these days I'll get some mic's😬. Thanks for watching!
Such a incredible time capsule. I got my doors all sanded on our 62 impala brother. The wife and I will have our impala looking like that one day just not red lol, but definitely that straight 👌. Great job team.
Good on you man. Keep up the good work!!0
@Kiwi Classics and Customs ty brother I am using your knowledge on our projects brother 🙏. Thank you brother.
I’ve got a 63 meteor 2 door hardtop 302w/C4 combo and she’s a flyer. I have some American racing alloys with 215s on it and a smaller wooden steering wheel. Makes it handle so much better and gives it a bit more of a hot rod look. Love it!
Sounds very cool😎. Thanks for watching
I'm certain this car was restored to better condition than when it left the factory. Kiwi power!
Well thanks man!!
Beautiful car specially since I love red! Back when I was 16 had chance to buy Mercury comet. I'm pretty sure it was a cyclone but I don't remember. I had the 289 but I remember it being baby blue with the blue interior that was darker than the baby blue. The old boy tore it up a little bit turning into the road that led to his driveway and he caught the culvert. Tore up the arms and the fender on the passenger side. But even then the car had like 35,000 miles on it. The deal was for something like $200 to $300 I'll come by hit and the Chevy truck 1962 I think it was. I gave him half the money took the truck. Went home found out it's going to take another $100 at least back then to get the truck where it would barely pass inspection. Shorter stories and never bought that comet. But I can go right over and look at it to see if it was a cyclone or not. I soak the money into the old truck and since I didn't have the money to buy the car any longer I got a fellow that I knew would love to have it. So he got the deal. Fortunately he parked in his father's Barn after they hauled at home. If he hadn't he wouldn't have it today. But 25 years ago he fixed everything that was wrong with it and you can't even tell it today. It was Chevy truck I got rid of it 6 months after I bought it and fixed it up a little bit. I know that the brakes on that red mercury work better than the brakes on another infamous Mercury comet. Thanks for showing us the car
Another great story, cheers mate!
Owner is a lucky person. beautiful car. years ago I owned a '64 Caliente. Same body style as this car. Mine was modified with a 302 auto and I would have loved that 4spd. If I had it again I would upgrade to disc brakes up front with a dual master cylinder. Never liked keeping those old drums adjusted equally. Really didn't like having a wheel cylinder blow up front one day and almost hit my carport wall. Saved by the hand brake! The best thing about these cars from my perspective is driving on a warm day or evening with all of the windows down. A great experience I'd love to repeat.
Thanks for sharing your story and for watching!! Cheers!
I miss my 66 Falcon ,3 speed manual, factory 4 barrel, could redline that engine all day long. Not fast but quick enough🔧Great content and builds mate.. Cheers...
Cheers mate!! Thanks for watching!!
It's a beautiful car, but IMHO needs a molding down the center of the body or something. Just something to break up all that red. The trim across the bottom of the car and along the windows helps a bit, but I think it needs one right down the side of the car 1/2 way down the door or something.
The Comet Caliente had that kind of trim but the Cyclone was more stripped down and go fast! Thanks fornwatching
🤣 7:45 I figured the steering ratio would be like that. What a beautiful car. Didn't they have double stacked headlights like the Galaxie in the late 60s?
The next year when that happens.👍
I don't think quick steering came about for a few more years
My father had the 65 Cyclone with the same 289 4V 4-speed close ratio and 3:00 to 1 rearend. It was red also.👍
That's a cool memory to have!
Hey Kiwi just subscribed… been watching Tony for a long time and now expanding my horizons. Great old Mercury BTW!
Welcome to the channel!! Thanks for watching!
Of all the Ford engines I never owned a 289, drove a few though.
What a nice restore
"perfect"
Thanks man I'm pretty proud of this one it came out nice!! She looks as good as the day I delivered her 6 years ago.
Beautiful Car, and a Great(IMHO) body style, I'd love to own one exactly like it. Thanks for sharing the test ride and details of the car. The owner is a very lucky guy. Cheers Mate !
Thanks man, it's one of my favorites!
Learned a new automotive term today, fettling. Beautiful car though.
I do my best to be educational😁. Thanks for watching!
A beautiful test drive from a true professional. And then there was this: ruclips.net/video/SgdkyLCF38A/видео.html
Yeah that was brutal!!
That is a beautiful ride, reminds me of my mates Valiant Regal we used to cruise around Dunedin in, exact same colour, and it could haul arse too. I'm a bit jealous you've got access to all these muscle cars!
I do sometimes find myself taking it for granted but luckily you guys remind me how lucky I am to play/work on these beauties! Thanks for watching!!
I did a lot of cruising in Dunedin in the eighties, Ap6, Vg, Vf Regal v8, Black VC Regal ,HQ Monaro. I might have seen you cruising , if it was in that same era? . My VG got rear ended and written off one night by an immaculate VF , on Princess Street, near the bus depot ,the owner of the VF fixed his car with parts off mine . I've got my late father's VH Ranger which he bought in 1980 , I'm the third owner.
@@barrycuda3769 yep, I was cruising around in the 80s too, I always had XW and XA Falcons although there was a mix of everything amongst friends, I always had Falcons well into the 90s.
@@DomingoDeSantaClara I remember a red XR Falcon with a 427 big block , also a darkish blue XA Falcon coupe with very wide tyres on the rear , and lots of others . The cool cruisers used to park up outside the town hall in the octagon. What model of Valiant Regal was your friends car?
@@barrycuda3769 not good on the Valiant range but I believe it was a VH, it was a hard top with black vinyl roof. I never had any V8s, I was too poor to run one! My very first car was an HQ Holden, which put me off the brand for life, anything that could go wrong did, I always had Ford's after that, although I did hanker for my mates P76, even though they had issues I really liked the look of them. I've been away from NZ a long time but I imagine they are quite a rare car now?
Red on red, what a beautiful car in amazing shape...... simply stunning! 👍
Thanks man. It's one of my favorites !!
I noticed that front end moving around. I couldn't handle that. I've got my old Falcon driving as straight as an arrow. It does make a big difference being able to relax with the car following it's own nose when you are out cruising.
This is bone stock on little 185 wide radials so she handles very 60's😁
Almost too pretty! Love the 289, best engine Ford ever made.
Yea the 289 is an awesome engine. Thanks for watching!!
This car is my dream upgrade from my current falcon.
Falcons are very cool too man. Thanks for watching!
Awesome Comet there mate, you did a great job on redoing it. I'm sure the owner must be very happy with it..
Thanks man, he loves it!! Thanks for watching!
Watching you cruise down the road Kiwi and watching modern day traffic past by just underscores what an automobile was and why automobile manufacturers will never be able to match that styling ever again... I'm glad our generation experienced it!
It sure was a great era!!
Some folks don't know that Ronnie Sox raced a Comet too..
I remember seeing pics of that!
OUTSTANDING! Love them!
Thanks man!!!0
Perfect Lap. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it man and thanks for watching
64 comet was the sharpest car Ford made in 64.
Restored a 64 Comet Cyclone a few years back. Very sharp car!!
Had a 66 hardtop, no AC. Had to sell it, was married at the time.
Ahh ya can't help bad luck....😉. Thanks for watching man.
Just like you said. Masterpiece.
Glad you liked it!!
Nice Car...excellent job on the headliner & sun visors - little details like that add up 👍
The headliner was a trick as you can't get the OEM style anymore ( it was multiple cardboard panels held up with moldings between them )
And the dome light works.🤗
Lol. Yea indeed!
Classy old ride. ❤️It. 😎👌
Kinda like me right😂🤣 Cheers mate!!
Wye do American cars so much overhang out the back if thay were 2 ft shorter thay would look a hole lot better😮😮😮😮
Looks like a brand new car. Very nice.
Thanks man!!
When I was a wee lad a Comet was our family car but I think it had to be a 62. There were 5 kids so some had to sit on laps. Crazy.
What about a 1964 Fairlane sport cpupe!
That's a nice car. very nice.
Thanks man!!
I thought it was a ute when you drove in!
Nah mate!! 2 door pillarless as we say down under
I’ve always loved the older cars! I loved the intro where it drived in, and the interior!
Very cool 289 Mercury car!
Thanks man!
My Uncle had a 1963 Comet convertible with 260 v8. lovely car. As far as I know, the car lives in Havasu Arizona. Red with white top.
Hopefully it's being used!!! Thanks for watching!
The mercury version of my beautiful 64 Fairlane... Well, now I have to go kick myself remembering that I traded it for a chopper in boxes and a Catalina... I'll probably never find another that I can afford or isn't a steaming pile.
Every car guy I've ever met has a tale of regret over one car or another! Just goes with the territory I guess😁. Thanks for watching!!
That's a beautiful little car. You guys did all right the owner. He will be proud of that thing. Nice!.👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Cheers mate !!!
Brings back memories, had one when i was younger. 500 plus hp 302 4 speed n 9 inch rear with 456 locker
Sounds like a beast. That's a lot of horses from a 302 😎
Heck yeah first view & first comment! Happy Saturday, Kiwi!!
Give that man a beer!! LOL thanks for watching!!
I love it! Beautiful. You gave it some throttle and said it scoots, at the same instant I said the same thing. I also love the bit of driveline noise you get with a manual transmission, it's music.
It's all part of their character!!
Beautiful rare car. The original hp though was advertised as 210hp though the cars had more than that. I have a 64 Caliente 4 door that has the same engine but 3spd auto, PS, PB that was marketed as the luxury version.
Yeah there seems to be some contradictory numbers on the internet. Would the cyclone have a little more power than the Caliente ??
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 - no, the power ratings and engines were the same between all models. My 4door Caliente has the same engine and was built on the 6th day of 1964 MY production - well ahead of the launch of the Cyclone. In fact, all the AFX Comets were Calientes.
With subtle modifications- porting the heads, swapping driver’s side exhaust manifold with one that exits straight back from a newer Comet, and dual exhausts these engines can make a lot more power yet appear stock.
The most amazing thing is that deleting all the anodized strips from the side really improved the appearance of the Cyclone. An interesting case of less is more.
The 289 inn the Comets were rated at 210hp because they only came with single exhaust just like the Falcons. But there were a couple Cyclones that were special ordered by Customers that did get the hipo 289 with solid lifter cam and hipo exhaust manifolds but still only had the single exhaust due to the limited space under the car.
@@dsrunner69 I heard of this in a few 1965 Comets as well as 7 Ford Falcons built by Ford Canada for drag racing. I've heard claims of this for 1964 but never seen one other than the specially built K-codes that were used in the 100k mile Durability Run around Daytona and the BFX drag cars. The Durability Comets were all stamped as 'F' but had true Ford K-Codes. I don't know about the BFX drag cars but it's clear they were K-codes. As for regular production vehicles, I doubt one exists. Every time I see someone claiming they have a K-code its based on the VIN and as soon as one looks it's obvious the car is not a true K-code. Obvious giveaways are the manifolds, lack of a 9" rear end, presence of PS and or PB as well as engine markings.
Great vidja 🤙🏼
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Very nice car.
That’s a neat little car! Like the chrome steelies with thin white walls 😎
It would look great a bit lower and some bigger wheels but it also looks great just as it is. If it we're mine I'd be torn.....
Sounds great.
It's pretty quiet but you can tell it's V8 for sure ! Feel like that's about how it would have sounded back in 64
you have made horny to get my 64 going,but i am going to use a new world 84 five 5speed from a mustang,and i got a convertible rust bucket for parts,i am going to have convertible top parts for sale in the spring
Well not many guys tell me that!! Actually not many women do anymore either so thanks.... I guess🤣😂
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 hahahaha i am not gay.but when you see something you have looking nicer than what you got you gotta admire it
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