Whenever I go to look at a car whether it is a new project or a car or to replace our grocery getter, I wear my rattiest clothes so I can slide underneath it to get a good look. Usually the seller becomes very honest real quick! Thanks Kiwi for the walk around!
I can just imagine that beasty going through compliance here in NZ, mate. I've always wanted to bring in a 60s Buick Riviera or Skylark, but you see all the prettiness up top and unless you're there in the flesh, you cannot see where it's been patched...or how good the job was. Very rarely do you get people showing you photos of the underneath in great detail and this is often where the ugliness lies. When I bought my Stag (locally), I spent an hour going over it from stem to stern, inside and outside and under. I flew to Christchurch from Auckland to see the car, so I was keen, but I didn't look over it with rose coloured spectacles. There were still a few things I missed, but fortunately rust was not one of them, although not knowing (at the time) about tyre dates, driving the 1156km back up the country to bring the car home, I was very lucky there was no wet weather. The first time I encountered a wet road in that car, I learned very quickly the grip level of 25 year old tyres, but again luck was on my side and neither the car nor the people in it were injured and I learned a valuable lesson. Your video (and my sharp learning curve) go to affirm the adage that it is always best to get someone in the know to look over whatever it is you are buying - whether it be a car, a house or a computer - or you may end up with a large unexpected bill......or worse.
I had a friend years ago who had an RX3 he got at auction for around $1600 dollars. In New Zealand in the days before Japanese imports tore the bottom out of the market. Always the show off, we were out with him one day and he decided to drop his car into a dealer for a valuation. He was convinced it would be for six or seven thousand. He was quite miffed when the dealer said $800. He queried it and the dealer told him not to go to the beach in case it floated away as there was so much "fibreglass in it", It was certainly a lesson in humility.
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 he sure was. We were with him and he was trying to show off the bargain he got. Mind you, car dealers always offer peanuts and sell diamonds.
Holy carp, what's holding that body to the frame- gravity only? I sure am glad I don't have to be there when you show the customer what they are up against. Once again, this vividly shows how vitally important a pre-purchase inspection by an independent source is on classic cars.
Living deep in the Rust Belt I ALWAYS check the underside of every car I'm looking to buy. Seen too many cars that look just like this one. The stuff they use on the roads is absolutely horrible.
I've heard quite a few people over the years say that they can't justify the cost of a prepurchase inspection but then have plenty of money to blow putting a rusty old heap back together. When I bought my Pontiac, I put a small deposit on it to hold the car and had the seller put it on a lift for me when I picked it up before the transaction was completed. I got very lucky, the car was 44 years old when I bought it and still has the original floors, quarters, and trunk pan. All the sheet metal it was born with and it was 99% rust free. One case where it was as described by the seller.
Wow that's a rough one Kiwi, hate to be the bearer of such bad news to the owner of this car. Are you going to tackle it without removing it from the frame and doing all the patch panels? Oh and welcome back home mate..
I am from the south of NZ currently living in Sydney Australia. This brings back some bad memories of cars I treated in the late 70's and early 80's as a panelbeater. Rust never sleeps is a fact, another one is it costs an arm and a leg to remove it properly. Good luck with your endeavours Kiwi Classics and Customs. I do not miss the trade at all (out of it 35 years). Cheers.
That would never pass a NSW pink slip inspection. Glad we have them, despite some government attempts to get rid of them in the past. I see a walletectomy in the customer’s future. Cheers.
It looks to me like they just kind of smudged mud down the sides. What they could not see they didn't care about. Number of years ago one of my boys found a Cutlass for sale and the guy was kind of picky about who is going to sell it too. Well he was impressed with how my son handled himself on the phone but he wasn't that impressed because of his age. MacGyver still in love with the car and that his price he could pick who wanted sell it to. The point of the whole story is what you said crawling into car and get dirty and take a look. I crawled underneath the car as much as I could without jacking it up and looked around and it looks really solid. I noticed a few things not trying to knock him on price. A tubular front suspension on it because the frame had been tweaked a little bit at one time by a previous owner. Now just to demonstrate how small the world is that we live in, I've got a great story but that'll be another time. Anyway he was impressed because like you said I knew what I was looking at in the fact I got underneath the car. The only reason he sold us the car is that he was convinced that we would do the right thing with the car. So by me doing due diligence and looking underneath we were able to buy the car otherwise he was sold it to the next guy or whomever he felt was the right person. Just never know what's going to work sometimes. Welcome back and I hope you have gotten over your jet lag by now
Rust belt ruination, sigh, the hard part of being a mechanic. Giving the customer bad news. At some point it becomes more expensive than it’s worth to fix
Even in the late 70s early 80s here in road salt country rust was horrible. Parted out a 60s Galaxie for its 390, the people were driving until the fellow at the local full service station pointed out how bad is was underneath, nothing holding to the frame, but the electrical system. They had some difficulty jacking up and started looking. 40 years later none of those cars got better and that one could've easily been patched up with a bit of Bondo to look really nice.
Greetings from the UK, patches upon patches and nothing left to weld too a common occurance over here. In the not too distant future I could picture the back axle ripping the car apart that's a scary thought! In the UK 50s and 60s cars were like this when they were about 10 years old
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I wonder what state it was first registered in ,I'm guessing it's on the east coast with hard winters and road salt .With all that rust is it the end of the road for the big ford!
I'm so sorry the survivor isn't surviving. Still, it made it from 1958-59. Rust, the reason I'm dipping my 67 Mustang Fastback. Stopping that crap in its tracks and washing away the tracks!
Oof... I don't think I've ever seen one that only had the body bolted to the chassis by the radiator support. "Hopefully" the owner didn't pay top dollar for that? 🤞
I could not in good conscience try to sell a car like that to some unsuspecting buyer. It may sound corny but I would not let a possible buyer buy that car without disclosing what is wrong with it and then let that buyer make the choice as to whether they want to purchase the car or not. And unless they just have to have a 59 Ford because their father had one or for whatever reason I would think that commonsense would prevail as let's put the sentimental emotions aside. To say this car is a rusted bucket is an understatement. Of course one things for sure these cars you showcase are prime examples of people getting a hard education on these older vehicles.
Thank you for this tip! This 59 Ford up on your rack is an excellent case of a chassis nightmare of rust! Ramshackle metal repairs underneath are scary! Are you going to do an off the frame restoration on this car????? That's a lot of work and money let alone trying to restore an obscure kind of car where parts are non existent. Its not a tri 5 Chevy. That's a lot of rust for a 1959 car, is it a car from the north?
I live in the southern Ohio/Northeastern Kentucky area and there are a lot of cars like around here. Patch it, paint it, and sell it for too much to someone who knows too little. It's a shame. People pay good money for bad cars. It can all be repaired. It's just metal. But the time and money it takes is too much for most people
I noticed it was resale red. I could not in good conscience sell something in that shape. That is the text book example of DEATH TRAP. Unfortunately that poor guy/gal got taken for a ride and it wasn’t a good one! What if that car was broad sided, that could not only hurt the occupants but the poor fella walking down the side walk across the street!
Oh that's painful to see... I love `59 Fords, I had two in my youth. One Calif. car no rust, and the other in Hawaii - it had rust but no where near this bad (then then it wasn't 10 years old at the time).
This why people do their dough importing cars like that into New Zealand. The argument at the border inspection is usually ' but where I bought it was road legal , why can't. I drive it in New Zealand?'
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160t's also complicated by a total lack of any meaningful law enforcement in that regard, I routinely see vehicles running around that clearly aren't in compliance with multiple state laws.
CAN it be saved? Sure, any car can be saved with a big enough budget. I would guess the cost to fix this car is far more than it is worth, especially when you add in the purchase price.
😵💫 takes a massive amount of tenacity and mind numbing boredom to repair a large car in this condition yourself rolling around on the floor of your garage 😬
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 no mate I don’t see it being viable, unless you particularly must have that actual car, does happen I not that long ago rescued an old MX5 I had previously abandoned in a boat yard for 2 years ( commitment abroad ) spent twice what it’s worth and had to re-register it in another country, it’s also far from attractive, drove it yesterday and still love the old tub ! 🤩👍
I think in concept - sure -- but try to do it... Every one of those mounts will have to be hand made and then (as others stated) you need something to connect to on the body. All of that is high-value, high-cost labor. This is not some exotic, who is going to pay for all that -- and to what end?? I know, I've done some of this restoration -- it's not fast, cheap, or cost-effective. Not to mention finding someone that will take on the job.
As bad as it is, and it is bad, think of all the far better cars that have long since gone to the scrapper just because nobody was interested in them anymore. Somewhere in the past, somebody made an effort to keep this one alive.
I bought a Valiant as a project, had nowhere near as much, or as bad as that poor old thing, and I relegated that to a parts car. Predictions on the fate of this one, since 59 barges are quite a bit rarer and desirable than stinky old Valiants? That might even fail a NZ WOF.
Many people do seem to think so, my working theory is they don't have the technical skill to actually mechanically evaluate anything, so they just concentrate on appearance. For example, I occasionally flip lawnmowers and whatnot when good opportunities present. All the buyers seem to care about is clean looking and easy starting, so I wash and wax everything, photograph in really good light, etc. Last one I sold they didn't even put hands on the thing until they'd paid and I helped them load it, it was weird. That said, I'm not selling polished turds about to come apart, that's why it's occasional, not many out there priced low enough to be worth fixing up.
Wow the salt sure got to that poor 59 big time.Canada, north east unitedstates and anyplace near oceans are horrible for vehicles as that salt is steels number one enemy. I’ve got a fleet of 59 fords some are better than others and I’m in Canada. The best one I have is actually a u s ford but built in Minnesota and I bought it in North Dakota. I’m in Saskatchewan and the worst one I’ve seen come from a place roughly 2 hours away from me there is absolutely nothing left of the underside the rear of the frame on the passenger side is missing in places the back side of the diff is rusted through and of course the body is quite soft so I’m taking off whatever I can save and the rest is going to the junk. I hope the owner of this poor girl is ready to fix his but if not I totally understand as rust is always a pain and very expensive to fix.
Rust sucks.. I bought a grand Wagoneer.. 6th owner... from west virginia.. Not one person took care of it. I had to cut so many section of floorboard out.. weld new one.. frame work... Major frame repair... people i found before me jist welded metal over metal.. i cut it all out and put fresh steel in. Now its 90% rust free.. Minus the rockers. And quarter panels where the wheel wells are. Took me 6 years to do this along with the rusted body mounts and leaf springs and stuff.. My body mounts were even there anymore i could grab the rear bumper.. and lift the vehicle off the frame... I did all this on my back in a parking spot where i lived.. with a 100$ flux core welder.. Im quite proud of myself actually.. most people wouldnt have bothered.. but my main thing was i wanted a good drive train... Which mine had.. The rust wasnt my main concern. But there was stuff i didnt see even climbing under it.. that i found years later. The cross members in the middle were rusting where they sat on the c channle frame.. so the c channle upper lip was sagging.. i cut it all out and put fresh steel in.. Like the shock mounts. They are hollow.. on the wagoneers.. and they hold dirt and rust the frame out and thrn it gets inside the boxed frame there.. and rusts out the engine mount portion mext to it. You would never know you had this by just looking. You would only know if you took the shock off. I found out by grabbing the mount to pull myself up and it ripped off the frame.. i had to basically make a new boxed frame section there with the engine still in.. Wasnt easy.. but i did it. The rear leaf spring mounts that hold the shackles were paper basically.. but i again did it all with a flux core harbor freight welder.. and 6 years.. Rust sucks.. but hey its mostly done interior is mint.. paint is in good shape.. drive train is in great shape.. New springs lifted 2 inchs.. and other upgrades.. Now its a fantastic daily driver that everyone loves when they see it
I hope he didn’t buy it that way! Why is the body on the frame? Weight only holding it? If he hit a Chicago pot hole wheels and frame would stop body would keep going!
The first question that comes to mind is: they let you back into the country? 🤣 Seriously though, given the amount of structural corrosion, is this body even repairable?
I've seen way worse come back from the dead, but only stuff that has insanely good parts support (Camaros, Mustangs, trucks, etc). It's actually not insane to replace the entire floor and rockers _if_ you can buy them. If they're not made, then, well... your options aren't affordable.
The way this car "looks"it would have been taken from the streets 15 years ago(at least)here in Germany!The TÜV would have taken away the stamp from the license plate and you would have been sent to repair all the shit!or put the car in your backyard!Or scrapyard!
Take it up to 60 then slam on the brakes and let the “frame off restoration” begin.
Automatic decoupling of the body!!
Some truth to that.......
Looks like an old canadian car. . We used to rely on gravity to hold the bodies on.
Gravity it is!!
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Horrifying rust issues has the person videoing this breathing super hard 😂.
give credit for TWO Tek screws. Love it !🤣
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Kiwi tells it exactly right. get dirty! You'll clean up. I'd be afraid to hit the brakes too hard on that one.
Hmmm. Me too!
Whenever I go to look at a car whether it is a new project or a car or to replace our grocery getter, I wear my rattiest clothes so I can slide underneath it to get a good look. Usually the seller becomes very honest real quick! Thanks Kiwi for the walk around!
Thanks for watching
I can just imagine that beasty going through compliance here in NZ, mate. I've always wanted to bring in a 60s Buick Riviera or Skylark, but you see all the prettiness up top and unless you're there in the flesh, you cannot see where it's been patched...or how good the job was. Very rarely do you get people showing you photos of the underneath in great detail and this is often where the ugliness lies.
When I bought my Stag (locally), I spent an hour going over it from stem to stern, inside and outside and under. I flew to Christchurch from Auckland to see the car, so I was keen, but I didn't look over it with rose coloured spectacles. There were still a few things I missed, but fortunately rust was not one of them, although not knowing (at the time) about tyre dates, driving the 1156km back up the country to bring the car home, I was very lucky there was no wet weather. The first time I encountered a wet road in that car, I learned very quickly the grip level of 25 year old tyres, but again luck was on my side and neither the car nor the people in it were injured and I learned a valuable lesson.
Your video (and my sharp learning curve) go to affirm the adage that it is always best to get someone in the know to look over whatever it is you are buying - whether it be a car, a house or a computer - or you may end up with a large unexpected bill......or worse.
Very true!!! Thanks for watching
A fair guess is that car would have failed a WOF probably 20 years ago in NZ from structural rust. The repairs are shocking.
I had a friend years ago who had an RX3 he got at auction for around $1600 dollars. In New Zealand in the days before Japanese imports tore the bottom out of the market. Always the show off, we were out with him one day and he decided to drop his car into a dealer for a valuation. He was convinced it would be for six or seven thousand. He was quite miffed when the dealer said $800. He queried it and the dealer told him not to go to the beach in case it floated away as there was so much "fibreglass in it", It was certainly a lesson in humility.
I'll bet he was pissed!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 he sure was. We were with him and he was trying to show off the bargain he got. Mind you, car dealers always offer peanuts and sell diamonds.
I recognize that car, Uncle Buba fixed it, he painted it with a fish tail, and sold it on a verry dark night.
Lol. Closer to the truth than not I suspect
Holy carp, what's holding that body to the frame- gravity only? I sure am glad I don't have to be there when you show the customer what they are up against. Once again, this vividly shows how vitally important a pre-purchase inspection by an independent source is on classic cars.
Don't forget the electrical wiring is helping a bit....😬
Wow... That thing is a mess! That's gonna be a painful call for that fellow.
Yeah it sucks
That's some real half-assed hackery there!
Just when I think I've seen it all......there's worse!
At least the frame is good!
Always a bright side😬
They all look good from the top. It's the bottom that counts.
It really is !!😎👍
Living deep in the Rust Belt I ALWAYS check the underside of every car I'm looking to buy. Seen too many cars that look just like this one. The stuff they use on the roads is absolutely horrible.
It's not a problem right up to the moment it's a problem.....
Came from uncle Tony’s , glad I found this channel awesome garage awesome work and content thumbs up 👍🏻
Welcome aboard !!
I've heard quite a few people over the years say that they can't justify the cost of a prepurchase inspection but then have plenty of money to blow putting a rusty old heap back together. When I bought my Pontiac, I put a small deposit on it to hold the car and had the seller put it on a lift for me when I picked it up before the transaction was completed. I got very lucky, the car was 44 years old when I bought it and still has the original floors, quarters, and trunk pan. All the sheet metal it was born with and it was 99% rust free. One case where it was as described by the seller.
Wow that's a rough one Kiwi, hate to be the bearer of such bad news to the owner of this car. Are you going to tackle it without removing it from the frame and doing all the patch panels? Oh and welcome back home mate..
No, that one's just going to fade away I'm afraid. Not enough parts and not enough dollars to make it happen
Scary. Body secured by gravity.
And the wiring, don't forget the wiring ! 😁😂
I am from the south of NZ currently living in Sydney Australia. This brings back some bad memories of cars I treated in the late 70's and early 80's as a panelbeater. Rust never sleeps is a fact, another one is it costs an arm and a leg to remove it properly. Good luck with your endeavours Kiwi Classics and Customs. I do not miss the trade at all (out of it 35 years). Cheers.
It's is expensive to fix!!
Yeah, but how about those sweet wheels.!!!!!
Well ya gotta take the positives where ya can😬
That car must have lived in Buffalo New York.
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Nevermind being in an accident just a bumpy hard corner could spell disaster
That's the truth!!
your camera man reminds me of Darth Vader. Good video none the less.
That's what 20 years smoking will do....
That would never pass a NSW pink slip inspection. Glad we have them, despite some government attempts to get rid of them in the past. I see a walletectomy in the customer’s future. Cheers.
He's just gonna run it. Carefully!!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I wish him the very best of luck and I’m glad I’m half a world away from it!
It looks to me like they just kind of smudged mud down the sides. What they could not see they didn't care about.
Number of years ago one of my boys found a Cutlass for sale and the guy was kind of picky about who is going to sell it too. Well he was impressed with how my son handled himself on the phone but he wasn't that impressed because of his age. MacGyver still in love with the car and that his price he could pick who wanted sell it to. The point of the whole story is what you said crawling into car and get dirty and take a look. I crawled underneath the car as much as I could without jacking it up and looked around and it looks really solid. I noticed a few things not trying to knock him on price. A tubular front suspension on it because the frame had been tweaked a little bit at one time by a previous owner. Now just to demonstrate how small the world is that we live in, I've got a great story but that'll be another time. Anyway he was impressed because like you said I knew what I was looking at in the fact I got underneath the car. The only reason he sold us the car is that he was convinced that we would do the right thing with the car. So by me doing due diligence and looking underneath we were able to buy the car otherwise he was sold it to the next guy or whomever he felt was the right person. Just never know what's going to work sometimes. Welcome back and I hope you have gotten over your jet lag by now
Great story thanks for sharing 👍
Rust belt ruination, sigh, the hard part of being a mechanic. Giving the customer bad news. At some point it becomes more expensive than it’s worth to fix
Yes indeed!
That's painful
Death trap. One hard corner or rough road away from disaster.
I have to agree!
Even in the late 70s early 80s here in road salt country rust was horrible. Parted out a 60s Galaxie for its 390, the people were driving until the fellow at the local full service station pointed out how bad is was underneath, nothing holding to the frame, but the electrical system. They had some difficulty jacking up and started looking.
40 years later none of those cars got better and that one could've easily been patched up with a bit of Bondo to look really nice.
Its gunna be fun watching kiwi fix this car. I reckon he can show us how to put patches in properly....
Greetings from the UK, patches upon patches and nothing left to weld too a common occurance over here. In the not too distant future I could picture the back axle ripping the car apart that's a scary thought! In the UK 50s and 60s cars were like this when they were about 10 years old
I do wonder who thought it was a good idea to salt the roads.....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I wonder what state it was first registered in ,I'm guessing it's on the east coast with hard winters and road salt .With all that rust is it the end of the road for the big ford!
@@FenderTeleshe's not getting repaired at this stage. Just not viable.....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160the car is at the stage now where she can provide parts to keep other cars on the road and that's a positive
😬man that’s a lot , definitely wouldn’t want to get in any fender bender with that car..
no! The crumple zones are a little too crumbly....
Its.....a crusher... lol. Run!
Goodnight that car is in bad shape!! Looks like the gear shifter might be the only thing holding the body on!! LOL
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I'm so sorry the survivor isn't surviving. Still, it made it from 1958-59. Rust, the reason I'm dipping my 67 Mustang Fastback. Stopping that crap in its tracks and washing away the tracks!
Yeah amount of rust and the lack of availability of sheet metal for this model rule it out for a resto
Holy Crap !....on a quiet night you can hear an old Ford rusting away....
It's 64 years old... 🤦♂
@@TheBrokenLife and I'm 65 years old and still have all MY Body mounts ! ...lol
...and the camera guy breathing. Get that guy some benadril
Fords, Mopars, Chevys, salt has bias to makes of cars it eats them all!
Crusher? I can’t see how the repair bill would justify the final value.
It doesn't, not even close and no sentimental value. Owners going to drive it ( slowly) till she stops
That is Fords Ventilation option.
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Oof... I don't think I've ever seen one that only had the body bolted to the chassis by the radiator support.
"Hopefully" the owner didn't pay top dollar for that? 🤞
Not top dollar but enough. Buyer beware!!!
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Indeed, sir.
I could not in good conscience try to sell a car like that to some unsuspecting buyer. It may sound corny but I would not let a possible buyer buy that car without disclosing what is wrong with it and then let that buyer make the choice as to whether they want to purchase the car or not. And unless they just have to have a 59 Ford because their father had one or for whatever reason I would think that commonsense would prevail as let's put the sentimental emotions aside. To say this car is a rusted bucket is an understatement. Of course one things for sure these cars you showcase are prime examples of people getting a hard education on these older vehicles.
Thank you for this tip! This 59 Ford up on your rack is an excellent case of a chassis nightmare of rust! Ramshackle metal repairs underneath are scary! Are you going to do an off the frame restoration on this car????? That's a lot of work and money let alone trying to restore an obscure kind of car where parts are non existent. Its not a tri 5 Chevy. That's a lot of rust for a 1959 car, is it a car from the north?
This one isn't getting restored, just not a viable candidate! She's seen quite a bit salt for sure but where, who knows
I live in the southern Ohio/Northeastern Kentucky area and there are a lot of cars like around here. Patch it, paint it, and sell it for too much to someone who knows too little.
It's a shame. People pay good money for bad cars. It can all be repaired. It's just metal. But the time and money it takes is too much for most people
I wonder if that's even the original frame... It looks a lot more solid than the rest of the car
True. That couldn't be ruled out
If that's the case I bet someone probably trashed a decent sedan body to assemble this deathtrap.
I noticed it was resale red. I could not in good conscience sell something in that shape. That is the text book example of DEATH TRAP. Unfortunately that poor guy/gal got taken for a ride and it wasn’t a good one! What if that car was broad sided, that could not only hurt the occupants but the poor fella walking down the side walk across the street!
I'm with you man!
Patches needs a restoration. Scary.
Your exactly right!
Oh that's painful to see... I love `59 Fords, I had two in my youth. One Calif. car no rust, and the other in Hawaii - it had rust but no where near this bad (then then it wasn't 10 years old at the time).
Wonder where they are now.......?
Looks like a 2 year old car in Wisconsin. Besides the patches
Well hopefully all the issues were taken into consideration for the price that the owner paid.
He loves it so that's what counts I guess
I wouldn't even let that thing stay on the hoist, let alone test drive it or work on it.
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This why people do their dough importing cars like that into New Zealand. The argument at the border inspection is usually ' but where I bought it was road legal , why can't. I drive it in New Zealand?'
The trouble is that here there are no safety inspections. If you can start it you can drive it.....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160t's also complicated by a total lack of any meaningful law enforcement in that regard, I routinely see vehicles running around that clearly aren't in compliance with multiple state laws.
I got a sharp pain in my wallet just watching this video. I hope you get to save this car.
CAN it be saved? Sure, any car can be saved with a big enough budget. I would guess the cost to fix this car is far more than it is worth, especially when you add in the purchase price.
HOW??with a couple of thousand dollars maybe!
A couple?????
Rust gotta stop too😂😂😂
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imagine taking this car to a VTNZ or AA testing station to get a WOF in New Zealand ? This is a Awakino garage WOF job
😵💫 takes a massive amount of tenacity and mind numbing boredom to repair a large car in this condition yourself rolling around on the floor of your garage 😬
Indeed it does. I don't see that happening to this car...
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 no mate I don’t see it being viable, unless you particularly must have that actual car, does happen I not that long ago rescued an old MX5 I had previously abandoned in a boat yard for 2 years ( commitment abroad ) spent twice what it’s worth and had to re-register it in another country, it’s also far from attractive, drove it yesterday and still love the old tub ! 🤩👍
A craftsmen did them patch's 😢😢😮
Just not an automotive craftsman......
Is that in NZ, Kiwi? Someone got bit on ebay or Craigslist?
No, it's here in Tennessee
Need to give us the follow up on thid
Not a lot to tell for a follow up. She's just going to be a Sunday short cruiser. Customer at least knows what he's got now and will drive accordingly
That is not going to be a fun phone call, I feel very sad for the owner of this car.
Yeah it's not fun. But it's just a car, it must truly suck to be a Doctor sometimes.....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 agreed 👍.
The frame itself seems to be solid with no goober welded patches or big accident damage. New body mounts could be safely welded into the frame.
To what real solid metal on the body??🤣
The frame mounts are passable it's the body braces/mounts that are non existent and lack of anything to weld them to that's the problem!
I think in concept - sure -- but try to do it... Every one of those mounts will have to be hand made and then (as others stated) you need something to connect to on the body. All of that is high-value, high-cost labor. This is not some exotic, who is going to pay for all that -- and to what end?? I know, I've done some of this restoration -- it's not fast, cheap, or cost-effective. Not to mention finding someone that will take on the job.
As bad as it is, and it is bad, think of all the far better cars that have long since gone to the scrapper just because nobody was interested in them anymore. Somewhere in the past, somebody made an effort to keep this one alive.
That's true!
I bought a Valiant as a project, had nowhere near as much, or as bad as that poor old thing, and I relegated that to a parts car. Predictions on the fate of this one, since 59 barges are quite a bit rarer and desirable than stinky old Valiants?
That might even fail a NZ WOF.
Shit no, this is well within acceptable limits specified in the VIRM.
Ya think!!🤣
WOF failure!!!😂😂😂
Marginal😉
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Probably as safe as my decomposing 81 Sigma.....
To be fair, with the car on the ground yo can't see any of that. Isn't that what is really important?
I'm pretty sure your being sarcastic right.....right?
Many people do seem to think so, my working theory is they don't have the technical skill to actually mechanically evaluate anything, so they just concentrate on appearance. For example, I occasionally flip lawnmowers and whatnot when good opportunities present. All the buyers seem to care about is clean looking and easy starting, so I wash and wax everything, photograph in really good light, etc. Last one I sold they didn't even put hands on the thing until they'd paid and I helped them load it, it was weird. That said, I'm not selling polished turds about to come apart, that's why it's occasional, not many out there priced low enough to be worth fixing up.
Yeah ...Sir you have a nice parts car...has to be hard to break to owners...shame its so rusted.
Wow the salt sure got to that poor 59 big time.Canada, north east unitedstates and anyplace near oceans are horrible for vehicles as that salt is steels number one enemy. I’ve got a fleet of 59 fords some are better than others and I’m in Canada. The best one I have is actually a u s ford but built in Minnesota and I bought it in North Dakota. I’m in Saskatchewan and the worst one I’ve seen come from a place roughly 2 hours away from me there is absolutely nothing left of the underside the rear of the frame on the passenger side is missing in places the back side of the diff is rusted through and of course the body is quite soft so I’m taking off whatever I can save and the rest is going to the junk. I hope the owner of this poor girl is ready to fix his but if not I totally understand as rust is always a pain and very expensive to fix.
This one's days are numbered sadly....
Rust sucks.. I bought a grand Wagoneer.. 6th owner... from west virginia.. Not one person took care of it.
I had to cut so many section of floorboard out.. weld new one.. frame work... Major frame repair... people i found before me jist welded metal over metal.. i cut it all out and put fresh steel in. Now its 90% rust free.. Minus the rockers. And quarter panels where the wheel wells are.
Took me 6 years to do this along with the rusted body mounts and leaf springs and stuff..
My body mounts were even there anymore i could grab the rear bumper.. and lift the vehicle off the frame...
I did all this on my back in a parking spot where i lived.. with a 100$ flux core welder.. Im quite proud of myself actually.. most people wouldnt have bothered.. but my main thing was i wanted a good drive train... Which mine had.. The rust wasnt my main concern. But there was stuff i didnt see even climbing under it.. that i found years later.
The cross members in the middle were rusting where they sat on the c channle frame.. so the c channle upper lip was sagging.. i cut it all out and put fresh steel in..
Like the shock mounts. They are hollow.. on the wagoneers.. and they hold dirt and rust the frame out and thrn it gets inside the boxed frame there.. and rusts out the engine mount portion mext to it.
You would never know you had this by just looking. You would only know if you took the shock off.
I found out by grabbing the mount to pull myself up and it ripped off the frame.. i had to basically make a new boxed frame section there with the engine still in.. Wasnt easy.. but i did it.
The rear leaf spring mounts that hold the shackles were paper basically.. but i again did it all with a flux core harbor freight welder.. and 6 years..
Rust sucks.. but hey its mostly done interior is mint.. paint is in good shape.. drive train is in great shape.. New springs lifted 2 inchs.. and other upgrades.. Now its a fantastic daily driver that everyone loves when they see it
Sounds like you've done a lot of work. Good for you!!! Keep it up and thanks for watching
Is the car even worth fixing ?
No it's not unfortunately
I hope he didn’t buy it that way! Why is the body on the frame? Weight only holding it? If he hit a Chicago pot hole wheels and frame would stop body would keep going!
Gravity my friend. Just gravity!
Can this be fixed without exceeding the value of the finished product (plus the purchase price)?
That's a hard no I'm afraid. It's days are numbered.....
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 That's what I figured.
kiwi itz a 59. most 10 year old cars in Canada look worse than that.
Yeah she's no youngster
The first question that comes to mind is:
they let you back into the country? 🤣
Seriously though, given the amount of structural corrosion, is this body even repairable?
I've seen way worse come back from the dead, but only stuff that has insanely good parts support (Camaros, Mustangs, trucks, etc). It's actually not insane to replace the entire floor and rockers _if_ you can buy them. If they're not made, then, well... your options aren't affordable.
Come on Chris, the rust is only underneath the car. Out of sight out of mind.
@@mexicanspec Says the person who doesn't have to deal with rusty cars, lol!
BTW Mex, where's that tin top VW Transporter you were going to send me? 🤣
Kev created a diversion at Customs and I kept walking. He'll fly home soon😉😂
Hey stop taking videos of my car! Well it does look worse but some bits seem too familiar. Thankfully I’ve fixed mine to be safe.
😁 good for you man.
These classic car sellers are scammers!!
The way this car "looks"it would have been taken from the streets 15 years ago(at least)here in Germany!The TÜV would have taken away the stamp from the license plate and you would have been sent to repair all the shit!or put the car in your backyard!Or scrapyard!
Agreed.
Not worth saving.
That is a judgment call. The car could have immense sentimental value.
@@mexicanspec Yes it is. And that is my opinion, unless the owner can do the work or is rich.
The repairs overtook the value quite some time back.