2012 Boss 302 Mustang Driving Review - HOT or NOT?
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- 2012 Boss 302 Mustang Driving Review
Would you take a Boss 302 over a GT500 from the same year?
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I bought a ‘13 Boss ... had it for a bit over 3 yrs and loved it. Really fun car to drive - and comfortable to be in. Used it as my daily. Traded it for the GT350 in ‘16... great handling car as it was made to be - and let that go after 3 yrs. I recently found a perfect barely used ‘14 GT500. Absolutely loving it. I plan to hold on to this one. For me - it’s the right one. Great time for a Mustang fan ... there’s something out there for everyone.
2014GT500 will always be a keeper, prices dont ever seem to fall
Which one did you enjoyed more while driving it, the BOSS or the Shelby GT350?
@@jmm1174 they were both great - but for everyday driving - especially on local streets - I think the Boss was more fun. You need to wind out the GT350 to really enjoy what it’s made to do. The Boss had much better bottom end torque
@@jmm1174 boss
This Stang was engineered with the M3 in mind. Ford knocked it out of the park with this model. One of the best American sportscars ever made imo.
I just bought a 12 Boss. Also Performance white with just over 6000 miles. Drove it home on 12/31/21 and have been doing some subtle upgrades over winter. Ford Performance Lowering Springs, LED lighting inside and out and a Navidyne 9" info system with CarPlay and Bluetooth. Looking forward to a daily dose of RedKey in 2022! Thanks for a great review of "my" car.
No fancy touch screens, perfect! I hate that crap, i want a muscle car not a space ship
My 2012 #0518 just passed 62000 miles. Celebrating with a track day at Thompson Speedway next week. Can't wait!
#0727 and just hit 66K. It's my daily, and autocross car.
@@john14850 have not been driving as much since this COVID silliness. Just passed 64,000. Visiting Watkins Glen (for the first time) and Lime Rock this year!
I have the same exact car, color and all. Mine is bone stock and sits in the garage under a cover. I had a Competition Orange 2012 Boss and was T-boned by a drunk driver. Had 132k miles on it and never had an issue with it other than the EXPENSIVE oil changes, 5w-50 synthetic ain't cheap! But, overall the best mustang I've ever owned and ALWAYS is a focal point of conversations at car shows
A friend of mine had this exact car. Knowing him has been fun since he lets me experience his cars and trucks. He let me have his 99 Ford Lightning when he went on vacation once. Since I've know him, he's had a Mach One, a couple Mustang GTs, three Lightnings, a 351 powered '65 Mustang fastback, two GT500s, a GT350R, a Raptor, a GTO, and currently has a Coyote powered Fox body. I regret that I didn't make it over to his house to experience the Boss 302. He said the GT350R is a better car than the Boss 302, but not by as much as you'd think. That GT350R was spectacular.
Dude. This car is so low key that not a lot of people know about it. I love my 13 Grabber blue Boss . I have the corsa extremes on mine and it sounds amazing. Trackey is definitely the way to go, I never drive with the white key. My next mod is long tubes.
Ive never even seen this trim on the road but its so clean
And cheap
I’d take these over the S550s
All day...S197💪
R U dumb?
@@ltosnap maybe a GT350 or GT500 S550 over it even if a regular GTS550 with cortex suspension and 100 tread wear tires is faster than a stock GT350R in a track, this car is damn special
Only made in 69 and 70 and then returned for 12 and 13 bad ass af
Yes in deed but not the gen 3 coyotes they could
Beat a scat pact with a tire
@@ltosnap it’s called personal preference..... I prefer older cars especially S197 with style, so no one is dumb... with older cars you can do more things and have more of a unique style than new cars which all looks similar...
I am just offering, because FEW SEEM TO KNOW. There is a great documentary, of the designing of this car. It was literally, designed/refined, at Laguna Seca. Ford invited 3 persons. The original Racing Champ, back in the day, who drive a Boss 302. Fitting. The other 2, were a NASCAR driver and F1 driver. After a couple of laps each, they made design change requests. All were made, until they al agreed, there was nothing more to do, making, basically, a track and ferocious track, racing car. The BMW M3 held the lap track record for so long and it seemed nothing could beat it, for a long time. It was time to completely rethink and redesign the Mustang. They then did official laps and murdered the existing lap time. No surprise. Carroll Shelby stopped by, just to see it, asked if he could try it and they did. He contributed, so much, in the past, for Ford. He wanted his name on the car, anywhere, not as a designer, but, in his opinion, no question, the best Mustang, ever built. That was amazing and the documentary was fantastic. Some people seemed to under appreciate the car, thinking, straight line muscle cars, of old, but this is, a track ready, tested, racing car, literally. If finding one, in good shape, a Mustang fan, having the cash, wanted to buy a car, definitely, not buying it, would be ridiculous, avoiding other words, this really, changed the muscle car idea, for all, to Muscle Racing Cars. No longer, can it just run straight fast, but could it, survive Laguna Seca. I say survive, because the track was designed, purposely, to push every element of a car, to the extreme, without it dying, or failure. Horsepower, torque, acceleration, extreme braking, extreme control/suspension needed, so it is a track, demanding perfection, in all areas and driver talent, which is doable for amateurs, of course, less aggressive, but that an amateur can, a feat. Many, myself included, feel very confident, to push a sports car, pretty hard, but that track, is intimidating. That M3 time, could not be beaten by production Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini and iconic cars, just to make the point, that is was not a great affordable car time, a great time period, so this Mustang had to be completely redesigned, needed serious pro racing input. It may not wow, as a daily driver, but if you drove completely aggressively, on a winding road, with hair pin turns, not suggested, but it will due it, if you can, killing other cars. This I think, makes it special, because Chevy and Dodge rethought their Muscle Cars, as track cars, not strip cars snd Shelby, obviously a racing legend, was inspired to get back in the game. Yes, the models that followed, are superior, but this is the car that changed, Muscle Cars, to Supercars, really. So, Hot or Not? Many not knowing the story, absolutely a no-brainer, must buy, if you can, the ‘not” part, completely irrelevant. I wish someone told me sooner. The documentary, was just fantastic, literally, showing all laps, driver opinions, evolution, nothing not done, which I have never seen before, the process, of building a car, of this level, not just a fast car. Given this, my opinion is obvious, but an opinion. If I had the cash and one is in good shape, sold, right now, before it is gone, never, that approach to buying, but still, a mechanic thumbs up, if used. All the best, great video, be safe!
10-12 are my favorite S197s
Just sucks the 10 has the 3V
A new RP video! This is definitely an underrated mustang, unless you’re a true fan, you wouldn’t take a second look at one on the road. And they were quite a bit more expensive than the base cars back in the day.
Just bought a 2012 with 400 miles and stored in environmentally projected storage. Bought at 2012 sticker price. Cannot wait. I told my wife it followed me home!LOL
The 2012 2013 Boss 302 is a classic which will hold it’s value and gain in value in the years to come for prime examples including Laguna Seca models.
They were a very special production car and truly limited in number with only a total of 7500 being made over a two-year span and with only 1500 Laguna Seca examples being built over the two-year span.
The car was more than a decal and tire package. The Road Runner engine was a step up from the Coyote 5.0 which itself is a great engine. The Boss 302 Road Runner 5.0 had forged internals, Improved exhaust headers, improved intake and programmable with Truck Key. The red key truly changes the performance of the car and gives it a great lopey idle almost as if the engine were cammed. . It came with a first in the industry adjustable suspension for rebound, quad exhaust and 4 pot Brembo brakes and competition air ducts for the front brakes. The LS also came with improved aero and the Boss S front splitter, rear seat delete and extra bracing for chassis stiffness with an X brace.
The car performed well in The Continental Tire Gt4 competition winning numerous championships. The Boss off the show room is still a great track car. For its day it’s track times off the showroom floor equalled the Audi R8 and BMW M3. Unheard of for a stick axle mustang at the time.
It has a direct link and direct parallel to its Boss 302 history and heritage and also had direct involvement of Parnelli Jones and Carroll Shelby in its development.
As the years pass there will always be a faster and more sophisticated car than what you buy toda but... the Boss 302 has all the ingredients to be one of those cars that will continue to be even more desirable as the years pass and not forgotten like the majority of cars. Not many cars possess that magic but the Boss 302 does.
MT82 can be improved inexpensively if you are a serious track day addict like me 😎. A one piece aluminum drive shaft added easy if you want it but not necessary for track days. Even without these mods the Boss is dead reliable on the track and still a great track car. On the street it’s a hoot!
add the late Paul Brown to the list of race drivers that helped make the 2012 BOSS 302 a legend.. he tied Parnelli in race wins in a season to take the championship in a white BOSS 302.
Well said! I have a 13’ in race red, only 17k miles. I freakin love this car! I’ll never get rid of it.
I would love a 2013 Boss, they are one of my favorite Mustangs.
I was fortunate to find a 2013 Performance White four years old, mint with 1800 kms on it. Scooped it up, and absolutely love it! It's a wonderfully balanced car, and super calm to drive spirited. Love the exhaust note even stock. I have a Z06 also, but love the sound of this car all day long :-) Good luck finding one, wish you the best.
Just picked my 2013 boss up a couple months ago. 100000000% suggest picking one up.
2014 is better. They fixed the terrible shifter. Even the regular GT got the upgrade.
@@kamata93 no Boss302 in 2014
I love my Boss 302! Such a fun car
Even though I already have a 13 GT. I would definitely grab a Boss 302, if the opportunity came up. Did not know they had side exhausts though! Great vid🤙🏎
Did not know about the side pipes at all! that’s pretty interesting!
Definitely my favorite S197 model, but not color scheme. Hoping to get a 13 SBY next year!
I love mine bro! @scorpion_302 on instagram.
I got me one SBY13 last summer, awesome car.
@@Bebopin-69 Congrats! She is a lifetime keeper.
Did you get your Boss??
@@UnorthodoxMasterOfGames nope, since this comment, I have sold my 16 gt and have built 2 off-road 4x4 vehicles.
Remember to remove the baffles from the side pipes!
I own a preproduction 2012 Boss 302 MP0008. Which was also the Motor Trend test car back in 2011. It is also the Boss which is on the cover of Motor Trend Magazine May 2011 issue. I love my Boss. Have owned it for 9 years. Has 42000 miles on it now. Will not sell it. I have owned about 7 Mustangs over years.
Best Mustang of the S197 models, hands down. I’m biased though, owning 1 of the roughly 8,500 of them. It’s a NA Beast. 3rd gear you are breaking the law, 4th gear is jail time. I like the Shelbys but being able to handle the way this does, the engine, and so many other differences over the GT. Biggest negative is the MT82, upgrade the clutch and you should be good to go. If you buy it, take it to the track, you’ll be wanting to go all the time.
The lopey ideal kicks in 130 seconds after the engine oil temp hits "normal"
The 2013 is definitely the one to go for. Comes with much better headlights. These can be found at a solid price. Can get recaros, a little boost in power, and adjustable suspension from the factory.
I disagree about the year. The front of the 2012 looks A LOT meaner. The stripes look better as well. I have both years though (12 like this one and a 13 LS in black) and BOTH look awesome.
It definitely has better headlights, didn’t mention the 13 tail lights those are way nicer
One of my favorite versions. I even like this one better than the 13 for the subtle body style differences. In 2012 I went Mustang hunting but I was new to cars so did not know much on the benefits or rarity of the car. Just figured the v6 was enough hp for myself and this did not come with leather, sync, and I did not know how to drive stick. I love my v6 in candy metallic red premium with MCA package and has all the inside creature comforts I wanted... but if I could go back in time I would get the Boss. It was such a special car at such a good price. Cars like that are not made anymore. Any rare car these days needs to cost like 80k.
Boss 302 also has a special traction and stability control setting. Hold the brake and tap the TCS button twice so you see Sport mode. Great for wankers like me on track.
Thats also in the GT models
@@crackalope hi, Crack. The Boss 302 has a stability control setting unique to the Boss.
Finally our boy RP came with a video.
One of my buddies has a 2012 comp orange boss 302 and it’s a sweet ride
As the owner of a 2012 Boss 302 race red #1354 the answer is YES! It is such an exciting and fun car to drive and it really turns heads! With just about 3,200 made in each year and about 700 Laguna Seca versions made it's definitely a much more rare Mustang. If you want to boost it you can very easily and a stock motor will handle 800hp np, it really is something special. Also that car will have drone pretty much no matter what because the side pipes do not have mufflers, they just have baffles that are removable but you will always have drone. So if people don't like that, this car is not for you.
The lopey idle comes on when the temps are around 180. Then you tap the gas to about 2k and that when you get the trackey activated
Love it man!! My grandpa has a 12’ GT premium. Super fun to drive, I really like the boss tho. Saw one at my local ford dealership with 15,000 miles for 35k
Legendary car in every way 💪🏻
Very informative. I’ve been told by Boss owners that these roadrunner engines are less torquey below 4k rpm when compared to the coyote engines. Now we know why. When I get by boss I’ll be using track key every time🤙🏼
Great review. I’m looking at a 13’ right now. Appreciate the video. New sub.
I really like that quad exhaust setup!!
1st 😎 and definitely HOT. I reviewed one last year and this thing is leaps and bounds better than the normal GT
I just love how these cars are boost ready from the factory that’s the selling point for me forged internals
RP Productions Great Review I think that 2012 Mustang Boss 302 Looks and Sounds for being as old as it is
Dream Stang for sure has aged like fine wine.
The best looking ever
I love this car and hopefully next year I'll have one. What ever happened to your 2018 GT?
I had a 2013 and I loved it. Great sound !!
I have a 2012 GT Premium and the interior looks identical lol they’re such fun cars to drive! Love mine
The bad, the same clutch used in the GT, a weak steel two piece drive shaft and a remote mounted shifter. These are must first mods, then on to the oil pump gears and crank sprocket.
All easy fixes for serious track use. Car won multiple IMSA GT4 championships.
The clutch definitely needs replaced and the drive shaft. But unless you open up the motor don’t even bother. Multiple guys running 7-900hp with stock gears. Just can’t spin the motor to heaven, talking pass 8,000 rpm and miss shifts. Other then that, great cars. I was cross shopping with a 11/12 gt500 and I’m happy I went with a 12 boss.
@@zeuscasey OPG’s don’t need a change unless you constantly slam off the rev limiter.
I do like the front fascia on the 11-12 rather than 13-14. Everything else needs the refresh, 13 headlights, taillights and gt500 rear/bumper valance
So other than removing the resonator there really is nothing wrong with the stock exhaust set up. These cars sound EVIL in the higher RPMs.
One of the best sounding Mustangs!
Ayyyee my guy back
I love it my boy Riley keep up the work and I love the video 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯and miss you my boy
Traded a 12 boss in on a 13 gt500. The boss was way more fun even though not nearly as fast.
Yes the fun factor or driver's involvement is very important, is when you really enjoy the car.
@@jmm1174 absolutely. But there is always the urge to add more power anyway.
Good video, I never knew it had quad exhaust
I used to own a '11 Mustang GT 5.0, a 5th gen Camaro ZL1 and a 6th gen Camaro SS that I recently let go. All of them great cars. I would like to know of which is the "fun factor" or driver's involvement of the late Mustang BOSS compared to the 6th gen Camaro SS.
One of favorite mustang versions
The laughter that ensued after 8:15 tells me all I need to know!
Bad ass car, I'm surprised u didn't have any lockout issues
I love the Boss. I wanted the Laguna seca when it came out wasn't able to. Now I got my 2020 GT500 😊
That is a big leap. How do you like it?
@@planetdee3587 it's amazing doesn't drive like a mustang
@@sunroofsimon yes but it’s 800lbs heavier then a boss car. Plus bigger.
Motors can safely handle 1000hp in that boss tho... ;)
Those oil pump gears and trans sure can't.... ;)
Tuna No Crust meh. David van voris went 8.2s with stock opg. If you’re not dumb you don’t need to change them
Tuna No Crust yeah that’s with most ford trans tho haha. Still a super solid motor and great platform for some boost
@@SlowSpeeds totally agree, if they came with tremecs I'd totally buy another one
@@hsucduw easyish swap if your going that crazy.
The 2012 seems to look more like a 69 Boss and a 2013 seems to look like a 70. I love the front and stripes of the 2012 and the rear of a 2013.
First thing is to replace the German designed and Chinese clutch and shifter to the Tremec and Watts Link Rear End from White Line, American Muscle $1200
I wish these had come with a better transmission. The fact that it still uses garbage MT82 blows my mind.
MT82 has easy aftermarket fixes. It’s more than adequate for the street and hpde.
Real racing? Drop in a Tremec.
Definitely hot. One of the best car that I've ever owned. Just needs better brakes.
Try 6 piston brembo kit from american muscle or late model restoration, complete kit is now $2k
@@michaeltabanao9014 if I was to keep my Boss 302 then bigger brakes would definitely be on my mod list. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore.
@@mrjjthor building a 2012 GT better than Boss, Watts Link, Ford Racing Supension, 6 Piston Brembos, 15 inch frot Rotors, its an auto, need the right tune, and gears. 315 to lazy. Its old school no paddles , just D for drive and foot control, seems to be ok on San Diego backcountry Roads. Hopefully you will pick up another Mustang...
@@michaeltabanao9014 I wanted something more unique and exclusive so I went with a Boss. Now I have a Zupra and Camaro zl1 1le. I should be ok for a while. 😁
Waittt, where was this mustang located? My uncle just sold his identical to this one and it had about 3,000 miles on it
went to track in my 2012 did 12.56 freakin fast
Not personal, but if you're just getting around in 2020 to figuring out that the 2012-13 Boss 302 came with a quad exhaust setup, maybe you're not the guy who should be reviewing the car. If you did the homework on it, there's not much indication... A lot of very special engineering went into the Boss, and that aspect didn't even get a gloss-over in an 18 minute video...
Love the engine in this car
Track car, enthusiasts car. Awesome Mustang.
The best Live axle Mustang
I lost it when he said " it's almost like vtech " please dont compare a full blown muscle car to a grocery putt putt car....🤦♀️🤦♀️ sorry....not sorry..🤷🏽♀️
Fax
Boss over the 500, I love the Tremec im my Mach 1
It is such a decent car mustangs for the win
Favorite mustang ever
AWESOME!
any redline lockout like the gt??
I'm looking at one right now, it's been on the Ford lot almost all year so far. Price they wanted for a 23000 miler though was 46,000 back in December, price has been dropped to 38,000. Car is in fantastic shape, but the price is still too high. Heck, it could be the same one being tested here. These are not Coyote engines, they are Roadrunner engines with only 3250 produced in 2012. Colors are; competition orange 1135, Race Red 721, performance white 589, Kona blue 553, and yellow blaze metallic tri-coat 252.
I have a 13’ in race red. I found it back in January. Only 14k miles, mint condition. I got it for $38k out the door. I freakin love this car, I’ll never get rid of it!!
Are you still working at that InShane Designs place?
DONT TELL THEM DUDE!!
If I ever start a business this is the mustang I’m buying
Get it cuz BOSS
Great cars
Damn fine car. My sisters has one and it is bad ass.
At first glance, my heart tells me the 13’ is the one to go with stylistically. It looks more exciting and “modern” but over the past couple years my tractor beams have me giving the 12’ more looks. Perhaps it’s tameness and sleeper STAY tus has an allure all its own….???
I like the 13’ rear better, best taillights ever! But I like the front end and stripes better on the 12’. I have a 13’ in race red. Love it!!
I’m looking at a Boss but has no Recaro seats. Would it be missing other options that come with the Recaro seats?
Yes. Torsion limited slip rear end.
@@scottthompson5855 for a few grand more I bought a 2019 Bullitt with 4,000 miles on it. Enjoying so far.
The Recaro seats are amazingly comfortable and they hold you like a baby! I have a 13’ in race red and no way I’d buy a Boss without the Recaros.
Actually, these retain some good value based on the current prices I've seen on the market
There about 34k with about 20 to 30k miles one them, hopefully the newer bonco ect , mustangs, people will forget about them, would like to get one at 30k
Yes sir 💯💯
Track key takes your engine to be 168 degrees for 120 seconds to be active
I'll take a 2013 in red.
my cousin had one and sadly he fell asleep and totaled it :/ now he has a gt500 pushing over 1,000 horsepower
Whats in run in 1/4 with red key
Is it for sale?
I like blue and white
How much for that car?
Wow! I might sell my BRZ and buy this
O my thanks for letting me know what is special about them see I want a muscle car but I don't wanna pay 40k and still have to throw money into it change everything to with stand a litt amount of boost this thing is the thang to buy also this thing does 0 to 60 in 4.4 sec the Shelby of this year only does 4.3 and it's got slightly bigger motor and supercharger imagine if you twin turbo the boss
I love these, however, I wish it had a Tremec.
Dreamcar
"Sorry about your popcorn, but I have to go". You would have stopped for Gardetto's.
You forgot to ad, it has a CD player
Homie scared to use the red key
I want a 2014 mustang over my s550 mustang so bad
Shhhhhhhh......nothing to see here, forget what you saw here, your getting sleepy, these are one of the holy grails along with 2013 to 14 GT 500
Only thing I don't like with my -12 Boss 302 is the gearbox. :(