2012 Subaru Impreza Review : MPGomatic
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- MPGomatic.com puts a 2012 Subaru Impreza 2.0i Sport Limited hatchback to a grueling 400+ mile test drive. This is the most fuel-efficient AWD vehicle sold in America on the open road.
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The 2012 Subaru Impreza is powered by a sequential multi-port fuel injected DOHC 2.0-liter Boxer (horizontally opposed) four-cylinder engine that produces 148 horsepower (HP) and 145 foot pounds of torque.
The Impreza is available with a five-speed manual transmission or CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) automatic, as either a five-door hatchback or four-door sedan, but is only offered in All-Wheel-Drive (AWD). We tested a CVT-equipped five-door Sport Limited.
This review, like most of our reviews, includes our trademark MPGomatic 0-60 MPH acceleration test.
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It took a while on this one between posting the 0-60 and the review. Apologies for that! These videos take way too long to shoot and edit. I want to get them done faster, but I'm doing it all on my own at this point. I asked RUclips for help with some resources, but they turned me down. They can give a million bucks to corporate channels, but little guys like me get no financial help building their channels. I love doing what I do, but I'm about ready to toss it in.
Thanks for the kind words and support!
Thanks for the input! There wasn't much to complain about on the Impreza. It's a solid car.
What else should we cover?
I've had this car for about a month now and I can tell you firsthand that this car is really nice. I needed a car that can get good gas mileage and it does. On the highway, I've gotten 44MPG. When I need more power I just use the manual mode and it juices up pretty well. It's not wrx, but it still pretty fast. How much power to you really need? It's a beautiful car, especially the sport limited which I have - silver with black leather interior.
how much did you have to baby the pedal to get those mpg averages. Is it realistic with driving in normal everyday driving? I saw a video with you guys doing mpg testing on roads where there are no cars around so no need to be concerned with going too slow by trying not to break with other traffic around.
The 2011 version of this car is 170hp and available in FWD or AWD in my country. It is heavier than the 2012 model, and of course, still CVT but is the same power output as the 2.5i engine, like in the much heavier Legacy model. The 2012 is also available in both FWD and AWD here in NZ.
Dan, are you enamored with CVT's or do you prefer traditional autos? does this car feel more solid than its competitors?
Awesome review, what do you think that 0-60 was. When i test drove one with CVT it felt peppy to 60.
The gasoline we buy at the pump is like a Mai Tai ocktail. Every bartender makes it a little different. Some good. Some not so good.
I found a bunch of kits on Google and eBay, but haven't bought one yet. Search for "ethanol test kit".
A 25% drop between E10 and E85 doesn't seem too far off the mark. Engines need to be tuned for E85 to get the most out of it ... I've spoken with a bunch of drivers that have switched from expensive racing fuel to E85, but you have to be sure of the quality.
MPGs always depend on how, when, and where you drive. I drive with a light foot, but I don't drive slow. Our state speed limit is 65 MPH, so I target 68 as the cruising speed on the highway. If your conditions allow for higher speeds, your gas mileage will drop. The trick with traffic is to leave room when you can and anticipate the road ahead.
Thanks for the info ive always wondered how it all worked, and bye the way.....your reviews are some of the best out there! I am always waiting for a new one lol
Keep it up!
I've been running Royal Purple in my S2K and Shell Rotella in the 01 VW Golf. Happy with both. Gotta watch for the sales and stock up.
Disconnecting belts has the potential to boost MPGs, I'd reckon. But living without A/C is like going back to the stone age ... of my youth! ;) We never had A/C when I was a kid. Not in the car. Not in the house. I dunno how we lived without it, but man, it was a luxury back in the day ...
E85 is super high octane juice. Less energy, but way higher octane ... and it runs cooler/cleaner than conventional gasoline. Pump E85 might be 100 octane (that's what I can get here at the one station in south Jersey), but Ignite's racing E85 is 105 octane. Pump premium is 93.
If cars had engines that were truly optimized for E85, they could be downsized and run more boost. Smaller engines, more horsepower. Crazy stuff!
Things are in a state of flux at the moment, but once that clears, I'll check to see if it's possible to add one to the fall schedule.
Amsoil is distributor only and it's about $12 a quart. However, tests have been done on big rigs where it has held up for 100K miles. You can go to their website and find a distributor. Basically, it's just like an Amway or Avon person. I have a couple of them around here but I haven't taken the plunge just yet. The Mobil 1 is not quite as good as Amsoil but for the price it's probably the best compromise. My Jetta was a manual and I carried about 100 lbs of stuff with me all the time.
That was an issue early on, no? I didn't experience any problems in the vehicles I drove. They feel different than the slushboxes that most folks are familiar with. The Getrag in the Mitsubishi Evo is sick fast. I like the VW DSGs, as well.
There's a deposit in Alaska on/near Gull Island that will power the USA for 200 years. Oil is in plentiful supply and there has never been any kind of shortage. In fact, deposits previously thought to be tapped out in the Gulf of Mexico have started filling back in with black goodness. A Texas A&M researcher discovered that and reported it but the report vanished within a week from the media. They want everybody to think we don't have any more.
It all starts with a community/audience and proven skills. Once you've accumulated a significant number of eyeballs, you must make contacts within the industry. The manufacturers provide the vehicles, free of charge, to legitimate media outlets. Write.Network.Produce.Lather.Rinse.Repeat.
I spend a good bit of money on gasoline and car care supplies. My fuel bill last year was over $4,000. The cars arrive with a full tank of fuel and spotless ... I always try to send them back that way.
Would this be a good 1st car
In the UK and most of Europe I hear that you can get 98 or even 99 octane pump gas. The thing with ethanol is that it's made from food. That causes food prices to jump and there is no shortage of oil in the ground despite what many have said. Just the other day I saw that corn prices have shot up and that is certainly due in some measure to ethanol production. Maybe we could start using sugar cane like Brazil if it's cheaper to grow.
I think I'm sold on the Subaru Impreza model. I was looking at all types of cars with different MPG ratings. It was either a Prius or this and the Symmetrical AWD has me hooked after riding in a friends 500HP "05 STI. I know I won't be no where near as fast his STI but it's the best MPG I could find in a great AWD car.
Test drove this here in Japan and was surprised how some parts of the interior (dash in particular) were of better quality than the bigger more expensive Legacy. This car also comes with a 1.6L as well and I can only imagine how slow that thing would be. Some things you are missing in the U.S. seem to be the color vehicle info display that shows AWD info, fuel economy, among other things, and last but not least no Eyesight ACC, adaptive cruise control in a compact is quite a good value.
My only concern is that it seems slightly underpowered? I didn't get the impression you felt this was an issue, but I've seen other reviews where they really complain about it. I'd sure feel better buying this car if they added a bit more power without affecting fuel economy. Is Subaru thinking of bringing in direct injection soon? Kia's new Forte has a direct injected 2L engine with 173 HP and 154 foot-lbs torque that still gets great fuel economy.
The STi and WRX are awesome cars. I've driven them, but have never been able to nab a review unit.
@ mpgomatic,
Quick question, how do you get these test fleet cars/ does it cost money/ how does the process work? Thanks!
Yes they do.I used to be a very active poster there when I had mine.TDi's win the race on MPG but I really like the W124 Mercedes 300D.I bought one with 200K miles on it and drove it for 100K before my shadetree mechanic skills finally caught up with me.I blew the engine due to a tiny screwup that quickly escalated.I paid $2225 for it though not bad for 100K miles.Of course, I probably spent $3K on parts over that time but nothing for labor.They have the solidity and luxury that VW doesn't.
It's always spelled out in the full written review on the mpgomatic website ... most often cruise control set at 68 for one run, target speed between 60 and 72 for the second.
mpgomatic have you done a review on the wrx or sti,please let me know if you have
The only thing I really think is considerable is that it gets those kind of MPGs with AWD. I wouldn't mind forgetting AWD for a better faster FWD compact car, even though it snows hard in the winter where I am.
I love the oil filter location, shows the designers care about service unlike some of the crap that Chevy puts out...
How fast were you going to get the 38.1 mpg highway? Like 55mph?
The problem is that they have no competition. Put an alternative fuel station at every street corner across from dino gas and watch what happens. :) There is a company in the next town that is making 93 octane drop-in gasoline substitute from natural gas, wood chips and miscanthus grass. Localized production with a goal of $65 per barrel. Jobs in every town. Not just ND, MT, and the Rockies.
Do you use 100% gas or does it have ethanol in it?
The best stuff around is Amsoil but Mobil 1 is pretty close.I used to use Royal Purple until I saw some test results on the stuff.Granted, the test is posted on Amsoil's website but I think it was ran by an independent lab.I unplugged my A/C compressor and what I thought could be my clutch slipping WENT AWAY.The compressor has been bogging down my engine pretty badly. Is your Golf a TDi? I had a 98 Jetta TDi that was the bee's knees.I drove it like a bat out of hell and got 43 HWY and 38 City.
Thanks! HD video takes a long(!) time to process and upload. I just did two in HD: the Mustang RTR and the Formula Drift/V8 videos. The FD video took overnight to export from Final Cut and half a day to upload (although it's 25 minutes long ... the reviews are 1/6 the size).
I'm shooting with all HD cameras at this point, with the exception of the one that I use for the 060 clips. Once I replace that, I'll go HD with the reviews. I'd like to upgrade to a faster Mac and beefier cable line, too.
There's so much misinformation about Ethanol, Roger. Ethanol can come from many places. Most of the Ethanol we get here in the USA is made from corn now, but a big % of the corn from the distilling process ends up being fed to livestock anyway, as "millers grains". The new cellulosic Ethanol plants will use all kinds of stuff, from municipal waste to stalks and corncobs. Yep, garbage into fuel. If the price of gasoline drops, it's no longer economically feasible for Big Oil to drill for it.
Also, my last oil change I mistakenly used dino instead of synthetic and I'm pushing 4K miles on it in summer heat.It might be breaking down a bit. Where do you get the testing kits for the fuel?I've heard of people driving the flex fuel vehicles using the E85 actually seeing a decrease of 25% in MPG compared to E10.I don't think there is enough consistency in the blending of the ethanol to know for sure unless you test every tank and compare MPG while considering all extenuating circumstances.
God, I wish they would add an panoramic sunroof and I'm sold!!
I own a 2010 forester premium with the all weather package. Love the car but definitely sucks up fuel. We are actually thinking of trading it in for the Impreza sport premium. 36mpg sounds pretty good compared to the 23mpg I get with my forester. Now that I don't have to haul around strollers and a bunch of bulky items for my kids I can downsize a little for better mileage. I think they did the right thing by switching to the 2.0 L for gas mileage. If you want power get the STI or WRX.
It is very similar to a steam engine. Inherently unsafe but will work in a pinch. I don't think you have to modify the engine at all. You just pump in the gases produced by super heated wood in a low oxygen environment and it ignites just like gasoline in a cylinder.
Thanks for getting back. I'm hesitant to get one. I researched this car for over 6+ months. Based on forums online, 1st hand owners most common problems: (some, not all)
*burning/high oil consumption (~15% of owners) - about a quart of oil every 1000-2000 miles!
*Squeaky driver seat (lube on the springs inside wear off?)
*rattling coming from front top speaker dash
*front passenger seat airbag sensor problems
*water RETAINED in doors after rain/washing car
*hard to reach rated MPG claims
Great rundown! Gotta wonder if we'll see those bits upgraded here in the States for 2013. Adaptive Cruise Control would be huge. Would love to see the diesel, too ... but who knows when/if it'll ever happen ...
That's cool. Have you ever heard of cars that run on "wood gas?" I saw a story about a prepper that had an old pickup that ran on wood. Basically, he had an open fire pit in the back of his truck that heated up a barrel filled with wood but was sealed. This is basically how they make charcoal too. The gases will burn in a "gasoline" engine. All that guy needs is cellulose to keep his truck running.
Personally, I just bought the 2012 Subaru Impreza Sedan AWD and it's amazing. Even though it's not WRX, it has the 2.5L, 265hp engine. Obviously, this means the gas mileage is practically reversed from the underpowered version, but I still love the car.
What the heck do you mean. To get 265 hp you have to have a wrx. Otherwise your looking at 148 hp. No if you mean a wrx sti then that would be 305 hp.
I'm not at all enamored with CVTs. :) For me personally, it's Dual-Clutch > Conventional > CVTs. That said, many non-car folks love the linear power delivery of their CVTs.
Subies are solid cars, absolutely. I've never owned one, but one day I will.
Here in my little slice of Texas you can find 100% gas but it's not easy. In fact, I can only find one around here.(city of 200K people on a major interstate) I've noticed an increase on my '98 Ford Ranger 3.0 with a manual transmission of about 2.5 MPG (From 20.9 - 23.4 under same conditions)
At one time Advance auto parts carried Redline products but I don't know if they still do. There are a lot of myths concerning oils and I blame that on Pennzoil. It was their marketing campaign that suggested 3K mile change intervals. I used to work for a car rental agency in college and as long as we could document 7500 mile oil change intervals the manufacturers would take them back and sell them as program cars....and that was with dino oil.
Without looking at it frame-by-frame, I'll guess somewhere around ten flat. It feels much faster than that around town.
I heard that too about performance cars using E85 but it never made any sense to me. How can a fuel with less energy potential be better than a fuel with more? I guess they can just pump more fuel safer than with race fuel?
I love mine
Fuel is a huge issue. We can only buy E10 at service stations here in NJ. :/
One of my long time goals is to test 100% gas vs E10 on the road and on the dyno ... that's part of the Honda Civic Gas Mileage project (if you haven't seen that video, check MPGomatic RUclips Channel Page.) I need to put together the resources to do it.
I agree.I actually wondered how they would make a special batch of fuel at a refinery for such a limited market.I only found this place about 14 days ago and that was the result of my first tank.Since then it almost seems like it has fallen back into the same range as the advertised E10.Most pumps here will state "May contain up to 10% ethanol."However, it has been at or above 100F lately and I think my A/C compressor is beginning to lock up on me.It has almost stalled the engine a couple times.
2017 subaru impreza sport 1200 miles now. mpg suck right now. 29 hwy 1 hour driving, 60 miles. 22 to 24 city, 70 miles. mpg suck ass for now but i love the car
I've read about a couple of contraptions like that, but never seen one in person. Kinda reminds me of the old steam engines in a way. Imagine if that had become the norm ...
If they make the standard with fuel efficient ratios will you really want a stick?
Where would you get *100%* ethanol? Even if you have your own backyard still ... ;)
Great review! Wish they offered it with a 6 speed so it was an easier choice between the CVT and the manual. I want the manual, but the cvt has better mpg ratings. Also most reviews I've read people haven't been hitting those ratings with the cvt, so why not go for the manual then? X.X
@mpgomatic love the vids but you really gotta upload these in hd!
Dan, have you experienced the quirks with the dual clutch I've read about so much, like the Fiesta and Focus? specially in city and slow driving.
For most people, enough to not feel sluggish
I just spoke with an acquaintance last week that had his A/C compressor lock up on his Integra. The engine wouldn't start and after he figured out what was wrong, he cut the belt and wham-o it started...
Dan, any idea when Subaru will give you a review car of the XV Crosstrek? I'm waiting for those.
Me and wife just bought one I love it coming from someone that owned civic si 93 00 07 celica 00 gts integra gsr 00
I've never seen Amsoil around here. I've heard good things about Redline, though ... never seen that one in a store, either.
The Golf is a gasser, unfortunately. Knock wood, it's held up well, but it's not great on gas. One day we'll have a TDI in the garage ... been wanting one for years. One of my goals is to do a 2001-2005 TDI project, either a Golf or Jetta. Gotta be a manual.
Holy crow. I'm dying to test this stuff. That's a substantial difference ... over 10%? From what I've read, 100% Ethanol has 30% less energy than conventional Gasoline. So in *theory* with the typical E10 blend, we should see 3% less MPG. But in the real world, 10%? Yow!
Y'know what might be interesting ... testing the fuel at stations that sell 100% to make sure that it's really 100% ... the test kits are fairly inexpensive ...
You of course know that you can't dump 100% ethanol into a standard gasoline engine, right?
Every car has reliability problems throughout the line, if you take really good care of your car it will last you a very long time. The Imprezza has a higher average rating than the Toyota Matrix and I know from experience that the Matrix is a bullet proof automobile. Sometimes you get unlucky but most often if you treat them right they will treat you right.
I can see why most enthusiast dislike CVT. My 05 Impreza doesn't make that awful sound even with only 4 speed automatic. Otherwise this is a great redesign.
Luckily, I can just disconnect the plug to keep it from engaging accidentally. If I have it on now at idle and then start to go it will cause the engine to buck and the belt to squeal. I really need it so I will probably replace it soon along with the damn clutch...but that's another story altogether. Maybe with an oil change to a premium synthetic(I'm thinking the Mobil 1 5W20 I saw at Wally world the other day) and not running the A/C I should get some pretty good MPG numbers.
Excellent videos for shoppers! Keep up the great work. ;)
Yes, it is safe and not fast enough for him to get into very much trouble
Oh yeah! I'd love to have an old Merc, too ... my buddy has one. I'm hoping that one day his wife talks him into selling it (to me). ;)
is this a good first car for my son?
$12 a quart? Ouch! I try to a case of synthetic when it's on sale. I'd guess that Amsoil never goes on sale, though.
The TDIClub forum is excellent. They have done all kinds of tests to raise the fuel efficiency of their cars. I have my project all speced out ... just need the funds. Too many ideas, too little money. When I find the cash, I'll make the time. ;)
I have a 13' limited sport and i struggle to get 32 mpg w/ 95% hwy. I use cruise, about 70 mph, travel to work one way 40 miles. This is the first car i've ever owned that gets less than the epa estimate. For mpg's i can't recommend this car. Disappointed all around.
Жалко что у нас в России хетчбеки не продаются,выглядит потрясно.
I like this Subaru so much.
Don't forget to pick up a bag of ice on the way home. =)
Why is it so severely underpowered ?
@christina L well you want the power for certain situations like me, well if I bought this I want to make sure that I can take it in the snow and not get stuck on a hill... The car I have right now is a 200hp 2.0 engine and every now and then you need that extra power
I'd go and buy one right now if it had just a little bit more power
Sounds more like a commercial then a review
Now just give us the option for a DI 2.5 with 200hp and a 6 spd. 2.5 RS anyone?
That key looks like Honda's key!
YES!!!!
the only reason the cvt gets better mileage is because they purposly fuck up the ratios on the stick shifts so people will pay extra for their stupid automatics.
It's too bad it's so low on power and has a cvt. Otherwise it would probably be a fun wagon.
i think my 4cyl 03' sonata is faster in a 0-60.
Subaru went from cool design to generic design.
Looks extremely slow
yessssssssss
Hey dave can u upload videos any quicker? ..... I was just wondering
Thanks for the kind words and support! :)