I went back to the previous list for top 10 WUBRG identity cards. Your prediction 4 years ago about Jegantha gaining a whole bunch of points was accurate.
I really like that you put Compulsive Golem and Conflux in the intro. I know you did it on purpose! I also had a 5 colour deck with those cards, others, and Porgenitus when I was younger.
Sliver Overlord. I want to use it as the commander in Centurion, I assume multiplayer is a totally different beast and I'd go with sliver queen/even more combo oriented with tutors, buried alive, reanimation effects. Overlord as commander, all lords, morophon, training grounds, necrotic sliver intruder alarm, mana echoes, gemhide/manaweft sliver, each sliver that gives haste (4), bloom tender, faeburrow elder, cryptolith rite, elven chorus, opposition, telekinetic sliver, chaos orb, teferi time raveler, living death, patriarch's bidding. Tutors: green sun's zenith, wargate, bring to light, eladamri's call, Idyllic tutor. Sylvan library, 4 spot removals (maelstrom pulse, void rend, vindicate, anguished unmaking), 4 counterspells (force of will, swan song, evasive action, negate/dovin's veto). Virulent, screeching, galerider, mindlash sliver, bop as cc1, ameboid changeling, crypt, dregscape, quick, acidic, frenetic, hibernation, dormant sliver and the other obvious ones; no +1+1 effect slivers, no lavabelly. I try to keep the manabase towards spell (low amount of lands that give colorless mana for spells, like cavern of souls). 10x fetchlands 10x shocklands, grove of the burnwillows, path of ancestry, city of brass, forbidden orchard, some painlands, commander tower, reflecting pool.
While I didn't expect anything else, I'm kind of sad that one of my least favourite cards in magic got the number one spot, the vanilla 5/5 that people only play because there's literally no reason not to.
If that’s a thing. 4 color has the smallest card pool of any color identity by a massive margin, so there may not even be 10 cards in the whole game that have points on this.
There's only 14 cards: the 5 Nephilim, the 5 4-color Commanders from the 4-color set, Omnath of Creation, one of the Aragorns from the LotR commander set, the new Atraxa and the 14th Doctor. Only Omnath and new Atraxa are legal in anything but Vintage/Legacy, and most of them weren't played in those formats anyway. There's no point to making the list.
14:31 You mentioned he can gain YOU 5 life but then target player draws a card. My buddy built Kenrith as a commander with the intent on making opponents "gain" life with Tainted Remedy. Of course, it's not the decks only win con, but it sure is his favorite! Lol.
I was actually looking forward to this list, since EDH usually has so little to do these Best of...lists, but it made me wonder then, in other formats, how valuable do WUBRG cards tend to be? In EDH, they are both helpful, and hindering, since you need those mana identity pips to be able to add other cards of those colors, and with 99 cards, you have more room, in a slower format, to stuff in the mana base WUBRG needs, but in other formats, they do almost seem like they would be more liability, with smaller decks, fewer unique names needed, and such. Cool to see how they fare with more freedom, but possibly less support.
Kenrith was always a card I could pick up late in MTGO drafts. He wasn't the most powerful thing around, but he often came down, only required one white mana and could contribute. Late game, with lots of mana, I would love casting him, using black activation once or twice, then the red activation. gg
Enduring ideal...i ran that for awhile with hivemind to lock everyone into playing only enchantments lol only got it of a few tims expensive cmc jank. i play commander though
Is there lists for the BEST Modern Cards in Magic: the Gathering? Or perhaps even the BEST 10 Cards in all of Magic: the Gathering, using the same point system. Such lists would be amazing imo
At our table I used to run a janky landwalk deck with a ton of 2 drops of each landfall (except plains, I had to use the 4 drop antelope for thay but at least it lets u give plains to other players as long as 1 person has a plains) but the pride of the deck were the nonbasic landwalk equipment n Ayumi, the Last Visitor who is a 7/3 legendary spirit for 3GG with legendary landwalk. So I'd use the Genju to put it on my opponent's land n then make it a 8/12 legendary creature land til EoT n seing for 7 unblockable 😹
I think it’s also noteworthy that even if you can’t cast jengantha, if your deck allows him he reduces your deck limit to 59, making it just a wee bit more consistent
I have a question: Why do a Top 10 (that considers competitive magic to make the list) with a Commander estipulation (color identity) since there is no competitive sanctioned tournaments in the format. To be honest i am curious to know what 5 color cards would have made the list...
Without the color identity requirement the quality of this list would fall off. Then it would be harder to find list to add cards like briefcase, kenrith, or jergantha.
Why is this relevant? Color Identity is not a competitive term. There are lists that cover non competitive topics, just make one to cover color identity.
@@Drakmaniac82 it’s relevant to see what cards have all 5 colors listed on them that are competitive. No point in complaining it isn’t like Nizza doesn’t also do list for edh every now and then, I’m sure he’ll revisit this topic with an edh emphasis if that’s what you want. Also number 10 had 9 points, on top of there being 6 newcomers, clearly 5-color casting cost aren’t good enough to have a list on its own.
@@NizzahonMagic Damn, was Jodah really not played at all competitively? I remember him being played everywhere and being treated like some kind of uber-powerful card that should be banned.
Ahhh 5 colour cards, I love them so much. I know they're kinda being seen as generic in EDH now because everyone runs 5 colours, but it's so much more fun to just put whatever you want in a deck and go ham. I wonder if one day we'll ever see one make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
It’s possible, but I highly doubt it since everything in Eldraine seems to be inspired by European countries’ folklores. Consider everything else that we see in the plane, even ignoring the explicit references to specific stories, it all seems to build a vibe of a romanticized medieval fairy-tale world with noble knights and chivalry, castles and courtly balls, magic spells and witches in the woods. Given his appearance and background of becoming king after receiving a magic sword from a supernatural figure, I think King Arthur seems a much more likely figure that the creative team drew from.
i understood griselbrand letting you immediately combo off but i really don't get how atraxa is better than progenitus, like cards are nice but surely You Lose In Two Turns is nicer
No there are ways around Progenitus’ “Protection from Everything” ability. It’s not what it once was. Atraxa is in the same Class as Grisselbrand, the amount of Card Draw she gives you sets you so far forward you’re going to have an answer for anything your opponent will try if not outright drawing a wincon.
Progenitus does nothing if you kill it, Atraxa gives you (depending on the situation of course) maybe 3-4 cards with a bit of selection. And killing progenitus isn't hard, just board wipe or have them sacrifice it. As soon as progenitus would be played as a wincon, every deck that needs it can run a fitting removal.
I find it funny that the thing that dethrones Kenrith is an elk. Oko would be proud.
😂😂😂😂
Quality comment.
I went back to the previous list for top 10 WUBRG identity cards.
Your prediction 4 years ago about Jegantha gaining a whole bunch of points was accurate.
I know they’re terrible, but as someone who started during invasion block, cromat and last stand will always have a special place in my heart lol
You could do worse than Last Stand + Prismatic Omen/Dryad of the Elysian Grove/Leyline of the Guildpact.
I really like that you put Compulsive Golem and Conflux in the intro. I know you did it on purpose! I also had a 5 colour deck with those cards, others, and Porgenitus when I was younger.
Sliver Queen is to this day my all-time favorite Magic card. I remember opening her in a pack back in 1998 and I instantly fell in love
Sliver Overlord. I want to use it as the commander in Centurion, I assume multiplayer is a totally different beast and I'd go with sliver queen/even more combo oriented with tutors, buried alive, reanimation effects.
Overlord as commander, all lords, morophon, training grounds, necrotic sliver intruder alarm, mana echoes, gemhide/manaweft sliver, each sliver that gives haste (4), bloom tender, faeburrow elder, cryptolith rite, elven chorus, opposition, telekinetic sliver, chaos orb, teferi time raveler, living death, patriarch's bidding. Tutors: green sun's zenith, wargate, bring to light, eladamri's call, Idyllic tutor. Sylvan library, 4 spot removals (maelstrom pulse, void rend, vindicate, anguished unmaking), 4 counterspells (force of will, swan song, evasive action, negate/dovin's veto).
Virulent, screeching, galerider, mindlash sliver, bop as cc1, ameboid changeling, crypt, dregscape, quick, acidic, frenetic, hibernation, dormant sliver and the other obvious ones; no +1+1 effect slivers, no lavabelly. I try to keep the manabase towards spell (low amount of lands that give colorless mana for spells, like cavern of souls). 10x fetchlands 10x shocklands, grove of the burnwillows, path of ancestry, city of brass, forbidden orchard, some painlands, commander tower, reflecting pool.
I kinda hate how fast power creep has skyrocketed, but one good thing about it is that it majorly renews a lot of your older lists.
While I didn't expect anything else, I'm kind of sad that one of my least favourite cards in magic got the number one spot, the vanilla 5/5 that people only play because there's literally no reason not to.
You will not slander the elky good boi. I will not stand for it!
You right though. 😂
A top ten 4 color would be interesting if you haven’t done that before.
If that’s a thing. 4 color has the smallest card pool of any color identity by a massive margin, so there may not even be 10 cards in the whole game that have points on this.
There's only 14 cards: the 5 Nephilim, the 5 4-color Commanders from the 4-color set, Omnath of Creation, one of the Aragorns from the LotR commander set, the new Atraxa and the 14th Doctor. Only Omnath and new Atraxa are legal in anything but Vintage/Legacy, and most of them weren't played in those formats anyway. There's no point to making the list.
14:31 You mentioned he can gain YOU 5 life but then target player draws a card. My buddy built Kenrith as a commander with the intent on making opponents "gain" life with Tainted Remedy. Of course, it's not the decks only win con, but it sure is his favorite! Lol.
I was actually looking forward to this list, since EDH usually has so little to do these Best of...lists, but it made me wonder then, in other formats, how valuable do WUBRG cards tend to be? In EDH, they are both helpful, and hindering, since you need those mana identity pips to be able to add other cards of those colors, and with 99 cards, you have more room, in a slower format, to stuff in the mana base WUBRG needs, but in other formats, they do almost seem like they would be more liability, with smaller decks, fewer unique names needed, and such. Cool to see how they fare with more freedom, but possibly less support.
With all the banning of cards around Kenrith without him getting banned, I'm surprised nobodies said it.
Long live the king.
Im shocked there's only 98 5 colour cards
Kenrith was always a card I could pick up late in MTGO drafts. He wasn't the most powerful thing around, but he often came down, only required one white mana and could contribute. Late game, with lots of mana, I would love casting him, using black activation once or twice, then the red activation. gg
The way that Invasion of Alara works is stupid. They should fit it just like they fixed Cascade.
My commander and his companion are the top 2. Nice!
Enduring ideal...i ran that for awhile with hivemind to lock everyone into playing only enchantments lol only got it of a few tims expensive cmc jank. i play commander though
Is there lists for the BEST Modern Cards in Magic: the Gathering?
Or perhaps even the BEST 10 Cards in all of Magic: the Gathering, using the same point system.
Such lists would be amazing imo
I find it interesting that "O-Kagachi Mae Manifest" isn't legendary.
I guess they didn't want to deal with it as maybe a commander in EDH.
At our table I used to run a janky landwalk deck with a ton of 2 drops of each landfall (except plains, I had to use the 4 drop antelope for thay but at least it lets u give plains to other players as long as 1 person has a plains) but the pride of the deck were the nonbasic landwalk equipment n Ayumi, the Last Visitor who is a 7/3 legendary spirit for 3GG with legendary landwalk. So I'd use the Genju to put it on my opponent's land n then make it a 8/12 legendary creature land til EoT n seing for 7 unblockable 😹
I prefer Colorless myself. Has some unique advantages, especially in EDH. Of course, Zero or Five colors, luckily all decks can run Teeka's Dragon.
Only if you are a power-gaming madman who doesn't want any friends.
Dragon's Teeka.
Legacy Weapon forever! My very first constructed deck - Global Ruin, Collective Restrain...
And Coalition Victory on top (never actually played it)
Kenrith?
Edit:
Ngl, I feel cheated XD
Where is magic lantern that literally overwrites all lands you have, ramps, and comes in untapped to be able to defend itself against removal
I think it’s also noteworthy that even if you can’t cast jengantha, if your deck allows him he reduces your deck limit to 59, making it just a wee bit more consistent
That’s not how companion works, it takes up a sideboard slot not a main deck slot. You still need 60 cards (excluding Jegantha) in your main deck.
We found the cheater 😂
No mention of Nejeela?
0/10 no Reaper King Kappa
Where’s jodah the unifier, legendary pseudocascade with a coat of arms not good?
Not good enough no.
Not in formats where power matters.
Not good enough in constructed, absurdly good in EDH though
Yeah, it did nothing to constructed formats. It's broken in Commander though
I have a question: Why do a Top 10 (that considers competitive magic to make the list) with a Commander estipulation (color identity) since there is no competitive sanctioned tournaments in the format.
To be honest i am curious to know what 5 color cards would have made the list...
Without the color identity requirement the quality of this list would fall off.
Then it would be harder to find list to add cards like briefcase, kenrith, or jergantha.
Why is this relevant? Color Identity is not a competitive term. There are lists that cover non competitive topics, just make one to cover color identity.
@@Drakmaniac82 it’s relevant to see what cards have all 5 colors listed on them that are competitive.
No point in complaining it isn’t like Nizza doesn’t also do list for edh every now and then, I’m sure he’ll revisit this topic with an edh emphasis if that’s what you want.
Also number 10 had 9 points, on top of there being 6 newcomers, clearly 5-color casting cost aren’t good enough to have a list on its own.
@@Drakmaniac82 so in others words stop crying
How the hell did Jodah the Unifier not make the list?
By having one point.
@@NizzahonMagic Damn, was Jodah really not played at all competitively? I remember him being played everywhere and being treated like some kind of uber-powerful card that should be banned.
@@astuteanansi4935 Sounds like you have an interesting metagame!
He was played a tiny bit competitively, but yeah, not enough to make this list.
Because most of these lists don’t consider commander sadly.
Ahhh 5 colour cards, I love them so much. I know they're kinda being seen as generic in EDH now because everyone runs 5 colours, but it's so much more fun to just put whatever you want in a deck and go ham. I wonder if one day we'll ever see one make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
The good old Commie War
I think the only five-color card I have is Last Stand.
What happened to the ur dragon and Tiamat and scion of the ur dragon as well as Ramos
He wasn't doing a list about commander sadly
It's about official placememts. Not sure if any of those creatures have even seen legacy or vintage play.
1 is Karona False God
I'm pretty sure Kenrith is just Jesus Christ in the Magic card game lol. I'd be shocked if it wasn't a direct inspiration.
It’s possible, but I highly doubt it since everything in Eldraine seems to be inspired by European countries’ folklores. Consider everything else that we see in the plane, even ignoring the explicit references to specific stories, it all seems to build a vibe of a romanticized medieval fairy-tale world with noble knights and chivalry, castles and courtly balls, magic spells and witches in the woods. Given his appearance and background of becoming king after receiving a magic sword from a supernatural figure, I think King Arthur seems a much more likely figure that the creative team drew from.
He's based on King Arthur. Returned King makes it kinda obvious.
i understood griselbrand letting you immediately combo off but i really don't get how atraxa is better than progenitus, like cards are nice but surely You Lose In Two Turns is nicer
No there are ways around Progenitus’ “Protection from Everything” ability. It’s not what it once was. Atraxa is in the same Class as Grisselbrand, the amount of Card Draw she gives you sets you so far forward you’re going to have an answer for anything your opponent will try if not outright drawing a wincon.
Atraxa is more useful in more situations and Prog isn't as an unbeatable as you think. Like just board wipe. You can also win sooner with cards.
Progenitus does nothing if you kill it, Atraxa gives you (depending on the situation of course) maybe 3-4 cards with a bit of selection. And killing progenitus isn't hard, just board wipe or have them sacrifice it. As soon as progenitus would be played as a wincon, every deck that needs it can run a fitting removal.
Atraxa gives you value even if she gets killed. Progenitus does nothing.
Isn't this the same dude that posts in manalogs?
Nope, totally different person
Nah, manalogs kinda ripped his shtick lol
Nope!
No, and Nizza is empirically superior.
Welcome.
Kenrith is a bee eye tee see aitch
Not MOROPHON?!
Morophon is a terrible card.