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Ryzen 5 8500G vs Ryzen 5 8600G vs Ryzen 7 8700G - Test in 11 Games
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- System Info: 0:00
Alan Wake 2: 1:52
Assassin's Creed Mirage: 2:53
Call of Duty MW2: 3:44
Cyberpunk 2077: 5:23
Forza Horizon 5: 6:20
GTA V: 8:45
Hogwarts Legacy: 10:50
Rainbow Six Siege: 12:17
Red Dead Redemption 2: 14:19
Starfield: 16:27
The Last of Us Part 1: 17:20
End: 18:45
⚾PC Specs:
🥎CPU:
Ryzen 5 8500G 3.50 Ghz (Boost 5.0 Ghz) - 👉amzn.to/3Uhdqul
Ryzen 5 8600G 4.30 Ghz (Boost 5.0 Ghz) - 👉amzn.to/3u5UN1T
Ryzen 7 8700G 4.20 Ghz (Boost 5.10 Ghz) - 👉amzn.to/4bmfQOy
⚾CPU Cooler: AMD Ryzen Cooler Stock
🥎iGPU:
AMD Radeon 740M 512MB VRAM - 👉amzn.to/3Uhdqul
AMD Radeon 760M 512MB VRAM - 👉amzn.to/3u5UN1T
AMD Radeon 780M 512MB VRAM - 👉amzn.to/4bmfQOy
⚾SSD: 240GB SATA Kingston A400 - 👉amzn.to/3Si0JwD
🥎SSD 2: M.2 WD Black SN770 500GB - 👉amzn.to/3Rqv7Wo
⚾OS: Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
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⚾PSU: 550W (BeQuiet! SYSTEM POWER B8)
🥎RAM: T-Force Vulcan 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz - 👉amzn.to/3UlbEsg
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👉Ryzen 5 8500G with Radeon 740M Games: • Ryzen 5 8500G with Rad...
👉Ryzen 5 8600G with Radeon 760M Games: • Ryzen 5 8600G with Rad...
👉Ryzen 7 8700G with Radeon 780M Games: • Ryzen 7 8700G with Rad...
👉Recorded with a game capture card, so no loss fps! (AVerMedia LIVE Gamer Mini)
👉For monitoring fps,cpu,gpu,usage: FPS Monitor (Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/96...)
#8500g #8600g #8700g
WARNING!!!!!! I noticed that there is a small bug only on the Ryzen 7 8700G that power is lower than 70W on three games "Assassins Creed Mirage", "Starfield" and "Red Dead Redemption 2" , I reinstalled the apu driver and restarted the computer and the power returned to normal 77-87W and gives +5 FPS up only on these three games "Assassins Creed Mirage", "Starfield" and "Red Dead Redemption 2" in this video which are slightly power cut because of the bug...
I repeat in this video three games "Assassins Creed Mirage", "Starfield" and "Red Dead Redemption 2" on R7 8700G should be +5 fps up. (Yeah, I tested it's really gives +5 or almost +6 fps up than bug) And this bug happened only on R7 8700G....
I AM SO SORRY FOR SHOWING YOU WRONG FPS STATS ON THREE GAMES WITH R7 8700G in this video thanks to bug , THIS BUG JUST RUINED MY MOOD AND MY DAY…... I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS BUG.
Again, I'm so sorry!
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***Edit #1: Today, bios released new driver for Disabled AMD STAPM, this problem is fixed! So, no need to re-install/restart to fix power/fps if your bios is updated to latest version which is fixed this problem.
System Info: 0:00 ( 8500G: 0:00 / 8600G: 0:40 / 8700G: 1:16 )
Call of Duty MW2: 3:44 ( Results = R5 8500G: 4:51 / R5 8600G: 5:03 / R7 8700G: 5:13 )
Forza Horizon 5: 6:20 ( Results = R5 8500G: 8:05 / R5 8600G: 8:17 / R7 8700G: 8:30 )
Rainbow Six Siege: 12:17 ( Results = R5 8500G: 13:39 / R5 8600G: 13:51 / R7 8700G: 14:06 )
Can we get Tekken 8 benchmarks with these? You ALWAYS gotta throw in the newest fighting game
Judging by the usual behavior of Apu's, pretty much any results rather looks odd. Cpower almost equals Gpower all the time. Even though the FPS might look somewhat realistic, the power consumption does not. If the Cpower is really only the power consumption of the cpu alone, these would be the worst APU's in a long time. Looking at the Gpower alone.... an undervolted RX 6600 to 0,775V @ 1800mhz would consume less and perform way better.
Looking at the Rainbow Six results... this system would consume above 170W... that is more than a stress test, maxing out a 5700g and an undervolted RX 6600 at the same time.
TBH I currently would rather like to see the build in AMD Metrics + a wall current meter. This seems more realistic than those bugged sensor tools.
Even if I am thankful for all the testing in all the Channels, non of them has given any usable information. Even the idle results differ between 41W and 74W, which is insane. Comparing just those results would make this APU garbage, since even a 5600g + 6600 only consumes about 40W idle, Monitor included, if set up the right way.
Even a 5700G + RX 6600 + Elegato Capture Card + Ae-5 plus Soundcard, 3 Case Fans, and 7 Drives only idles at around 46W - System only.
I do get the point in running those things stock, yet it doesn't make sense in the slightest. Neither do you need PBO, nor CBS to even max out the GPU on any of those Apu's. Even running this in Windows Energy Saving Profile should not render any difference in the FPS results, but in the the total consumption.
Those things aside... the PCI lane configuration is actually what ruins those cpu's. Even if they may be efficient and low in power consumption, what has yet to be proven, their potential usage is ruined on the x4 APU'S and rather limited on the x8. Compared to a basic 5600G using bifurcation, I am losing way to many connections. As you are able to alter the PCI lanes to your needs these days. I would miss out on 12 Sata connections here in NAS Build type, or at least loose 2 x4 Connections, which could either utilize additional Cards or NVME drives.
As it is right now, I don't really see any reason to get any of them. Upgrading from am4 APU makes no sense given the required expenses on the new platform. I am losing way to much connectivity. Looking at it from the creator side.... they are interesting... but I am not convinced the expenses would be beneficial.
Perfect!
In CP2077 8600g and 8700g gpu performanse reduced = less than maximum gpu freq - not enough TDP for full performance... = cpu consume a lot of tdp in this test.
@@Bento-san yes undervolted 6600 or 3070 more faster - they eat x3 power, when APU eat 20w to cpu and 65-20=45W to igpu.
And in cpu intencity games igpu aditionaly drop performance.
My boy just purchased 3 CPUs for reviews gg
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@@ChristoGevedjov please giveaway one of them 🐐
Y es su trabajo tarado jajaja
want free 4090 too ??? @@brahimvlogs9395
i dont think so
Just the fact that you can play AAA modern games without a GPU is mind-blowing. Okay, the settings are the lowest, and FSR rendering is at 480p or 720p, but you can play! That is all that matters.
Honestly, do you ever play current gen games in 720p?
I tell you, it is absolutely terrible. If I play last gen games (such as Witcher, Mass Effect, GTA V, etc) on lowest setting, I can still play them correctly... But current gen games (especially Unreal Engine based) is so horrendous in lowest settings.
There is no "best" Option in the APU market, AMD botched the desktop option even when they know they could offer more like those handheld processors, they simply holding back to make the budget GPU (RX x600 and Nvidia xx50 series) still relevant to buy
Consoles also have APU, but they run 100 times better than this garbage.
@@riot9179 They have specialized hardware. The memory is the bottleneck of these APUs...
if u got good pc, u will think this is garbage
it's 1080p with low settings, i can tell just looking at it.
though if you do what you said, 720p you can play with higher settings then.
but if you want the best playing and visual experience, 900p and medium settings will get you around 40 to 50fps depending on the game.
Well done this is real content.
Thank you ^^
yours too tbh
Bro i would love to see this kind of testing on all emulators and see how much can you upscale them, especially ps2 and ps3 emulation. I think there is a bunch of us who would love to see this thanks great video.
Wonderful video Christo, thank you! Was waiting for your benchmarks :)
Maybe you can test the 8600g on 720p for it‘s TDP efficiency on 60fps lock? Without turbo for example ?
Thank you anyways for investing your time to save us time & money!
Best regards
Yessss this is wt weve been waiting for.!! Could you make a 8600g vs 5600g video too??
Yes, someday!
I hope that happens too, I want to see if there's a difference between them
yea i wana see it too coz i have 5600g too i wana see if worth upgrade
Uploaded: ruclips.net/video/nIb9xY0N4N8/видео.htmlsi=Gu-s0ie8kA6WfoGV
If you have 5600G , you must be waited next series not 8600G, i think 5600G was same with 8500G in GPU side or better
Nice video, as always.
Please please, make a CPU comparison between these 3.
Thank you!
Cool performance from such tiny chips👍
This will be the future of gaming for sure....just curious why is the Ryzen 5 8600g running some 20°C+ hotter then the other two in such similar conditions ?
El mejor canal de benchmarks en todo youtube, ya estabas tardando en traer este contenido de calidad.
¡Gracias por las palabras amables! :)))
Wow, the igpu progress is really staggering. If they continue to develop them at this pace, we're gonna have a viable igpu in about 50 years, if not sooner.
I don't have high hopes but the next step will be RDNA4
Were all 3 of these using the same cooler or did you test each one based on the stock cooler AMD provided from the box? The power use & thermals between the 8600G and 8700G are what I'm focused on. For the stock cooler with comes in the box version it looks like the R7 8700G gets a Wraith Spire vs the Wraith Stealth for the R5 chips.
thanks for the quick upload, 8600g seems to be the sweet spot
yeah that's what I was thinking, 170 gets you weaksauce, 329 gets you super overpriced but slightly better performance, but 229 gets you a perfect balance
i'd rather have something like 7500f + used 1660S which i could get at price of 8600G with more performance
@@kamerad_marzuki3631 in my place used 1660s and rx6600 were same price. cause here people always buy Nvidia with no though 😅
@@kamerad_marzuki36317500f isn't available everywhere and 7600 too costly
@@kamerad_marzuki3631si comparas algo usado con algo nuevo es obvio cual será mejor calidad-precio
great comparison, now i have an idea what to get. Can you try 8500g at 720p without fsr? thank you so much
Great demonstration .
Keep them coming comparing 5600g and 5700g with 8000g series
5600g vs 8500g vs 8600g video is uploaded: ruclips.net/video/nIb9xY0N4N8/видео.htmlsi=Gu-s0ie8kA6WfoGV
@@ChristoGevedjov thanks man
Dude you are the GOAT, can you do older games like Crysis and Fallout 4?
What is the point when it can run Red Dead Redemption at medium setting or play Cyberpunk...
Can't expect more from this RUclips channel, always giving the bestt 😂😂
Thanks for testing
Thanks for your work.
Thanks for your hard work
Great for laptops and mini pcs but I wish see a combo CPU and GPU for the same price, thanks for the video👍
Did you went into the BIOS to specific GPU memory size?
This is honestly impressive as a concept. I could definitely see apus becoming the standard for a lot of PCs in the future. Enabling moderate gaming and productivity work all in one unit
above $300 to be above 40/50 FPS in low qualities in current games! I don't see a big jump compared to the 5600g. You have processors for $100 and GPUs for $200 that make amazing combos, disappointment for the price/performance!
It's good, but price should be lesser
But in $100 there's no good processor and also $200 for GPU isn't a good deal.
@@user-wl2ft4xe2y around 350 € on Europe, a 5600 prossor and a RX 6600, really isnt a good deal? Please open mind
5700g was a 359$ cpu. People seem to forget that. And, these are not for being the cheapest performance you can get, they're more for low power ITX boxes or low power draw pcs. Secondly, these absolutely destroy the 5700g in cpu performance, the 5000 apus are something like 30% slower than the 5000x cpus, so if you do add a gpu later the cpu is holding it back.
Lol there's literally a 30-50 percent jump in performance on these APUs compared to 5600g.
Any plans on doing this to esports games?
Great test! Could you benchmark Ryzen 5 8500G with dedicated GPU?
What a great content Christo. By the way, can you test for Ryzen 5500GT and Ryzen 5600GT
I'm still thinking about it, I will see after month If i can allow to buy 5500gt/5600gt.
@@ChristoGevedjov Oke, thanks christo
Can you make a video with the 5600G and 5700G vs these CPUs but with a dGPU?
The performance of the GPU 740 of the Ryzen 8500G can roughly be compared with which graphics card? It would be interesting because a power supply with 600 watts would easily be enough if it could be omitted.
Thanks, was waiting for it! Not much difference between 8600g and 8700g, but 8500g is quite weak against them.
Nice video, thank you
best video of the month 😁
Can you try adding halo mcc in your comparisons please?
Thanks for showcasing the chip without surrounding components which limit performance, and opting for sufficient ram, power supply and cooler to not cause bottleneck. I think ETA prime is mentally challenged.
check the description man, he has the parts listed. hes running 2x16gb ddr5 6000mhz ram
@@defuncthusky6649 I don't get it, you agree with me?
why the clock is variable? no performance mode on windows energy plan?
Translate please: Hola, hablo español y no soy tan bueno escribiendo en inglés. De antemano, gracias por testear los Ryzen 8000 y mostrárnoslo, pero tengo una duda, ¿por qué el uso de la VRAM es 0.3GB en todos los juegos?
Ese es el tamaño de vram predeterminado de 512 MB de vram, pero puedes aumentar el tamaño de vram en BIOS como quieras.
Pretty impressive, do you think it would perform even better with a better cooler? Or the stock is more than enough?
stock is enough
Can you test 8500g vs 8600g with a dGPU? If you'll do that, be careful at the PCI-e lanes. As 8500g has only 10 usables, and 8600g has only 16 usable.
Have you tested these three in sinebench?
Interesting, do you know why the 8600G was taking more power than the 8700G?
Awesome thank you
finally guy know what we want . ty 👍
please make 1 or 2 comparison video about igpu 8500g vs 5700g and mobo a520 vs b450(oc & default)
Which handheld is coming out with this chip?
Any chance we could see those vs their mobile alternatives like 7535HS, 7840HS, 8845HS?
2 years ago you do a test with far cry 6 and 5700g. can you please do far cry test simular on the new CPU or maybe at least with 8700G. also fsr 3 and frame generation is usefull
This will happened soon on Games Series, give me time! I need to finish some videos then i will start one by one games series on 8500g/8600g and 8700g.
Very happy to see the 8500G in the comparison! You are amazing bro!!! By the way, these are the APUs I've been looking for (Star Wars pun: these aren't the droids you've been looking for)
Gracias por el benchmark del 8500g, parece que no estan habiendo mucho reviews de ese procesador. Ojala hagas una comparativa del 8500g contra el 5600g , mas que nada por ser el mas barato
Actualmente estoy haciendo esto! :)
5600g 100fps
8500g 150fps
I'm waiting for this
Pls do the gaming test on the new rtx 3050 6 GB . Can you test games like days gone , detroit become human, genshin impact?
Many thanks and if you can add comparative between 8500g and 5600g will be interesting
After 12 hours video will be uploaded about it ;)
So basically get an rx 6600 and get twice the gaming performance by pairing it with an i3 12100f for basically the same price.
How anyone at amd thought this would be a good product is beyond me. They didn't even put a newer igpu, it's the same 780m that we've already seen tons of times in handhelds and laptops.
Yeah, these aren't meant for budget builds IMO.
Too expensive to be one. Damn, I missed the days when 2200G/2400G were launched. It's was an instant hit for budget build as stopgap until you can get a proper GPU later.
it more for video editors and anyone who needs AI features like in photoshop and its not a " budget " u d need to wait its going to be like the 5700g when it first released it was 350 if i remember well now on amazon its 200$ so yeah ud need to wait till at least 2025 q2 to see it go for a decent price 300/250$ and then and only then it WILL hit the sweet spot
12100 no upgrade path then , am5 have better future anyway
I have an old lian li pc case that looks like a train that I love. It has no room to put a GPU so this is perfect for me.
Thank you for the video 8700G looks amazing if it had the 5700G price but time will tell. The poor horses 🐴:(
My man Could you make 8700g with 6000mt ddr5 ram vs gtx 1650?
They should have made a 8400g with a 780m igpu and processing power to be like 12400. That would be a game changer. Alas it's not even worth the money.
Can u please do 720p test for these gpu?
Bro these new apus knocks the previous 5000 out of the water would like to see what the 5000gt has to offer before i pull the trigger on a 8000g setup
As much as big time tech youtubers are dunking on these, it's goddamn amazing the strides they made in 1 generation. I think the next gen is getting close to pushing high 1080 into 1440.
@@frankytanky5076los apus no serán para 1440p , por qué los juegos van saliendo cada vez más exigentes y las PC cada vez más potentes
Faltan almenos 5 años para que los apus sean para 1440p
Pleaseee R5 8500G vs R5 5600G
Thanks for your videos uwu
Very good benchmark bro
what is the 3DMark score for the Radeon 740M?, because no one has benchmarked the iGP Radeon 740M because it is so underestimated
1920 Graphics Score on 3DMark Time Spy from the website "cpu-monkey". That puts it around 3% above the 96EU Intel Iris Xe Graphics found in Alder Lake CPUs. It's around 80% of the performance of a GTX 1050 Ti, and slightly faster than the base 2GB GTX 1050.
You would have gained more FPS if you increased VRAM, which in you case is only 512MB. You should go to BIOS and enable "Game Mode" to automatically allocate VRAM(4GB initially) or "Force Mode" to allocate up to 16GB of VRAM, depending if MB support those features after all. Also, make sure your RAM is running at lower CL(30 if you memory can handle it, XMP and EXPO profiles don't do that by default) and of course don't forget to enable boost mode for the CPU. doing those things would drastically increase performance.
their stock cooler is that good?
Very interesting and useful. But I've tried to slow dowm my PC with RX6600 and 5600G to the Speed of the 8700G and it tooks together about 80-95W. Its almost as efficient as this. So I think a PC with Ryzen 5500 and RTX3050 could be more efficient.
Is any of these good for running multiple dedicated servers?
theyre fast procs
Малко са се изложили с 740m, двете останали интегрирани графики са доста близки като резултати.
I think the 8700g has vram upgrade options pls check man
Cards any slower than an RX6600 just got obsolete. Love it!
The 740M consumes 60W? or is the GPU reading combing both the CPU and GPU TDP.
Combining both is 65W
Try the overclocked(iGPU+RAM) 8600G vs stock 8700G.
Ryzen 5 5800G CPU speed is only 3700Mhz ?
great job
Bro which software are you using for benchmark. Plz reply.
FPS Stats = FPS Monitor app, recording = OBS Studio
@@ChristoGevedjov can you mention the link of the app. I can't find it
@@themoveistop FPS Monitor app: store.steampowered.com/app/966610/FPS_Monitor__hardware_ingame__desktop_overlays/
What's up with the clocks on the 8500G? It's barely even doing 3300, jumping down on ~2900MHz half the time.
Edit: Never mind, I forgot abou tthe Zen 4c cores.
This is a very monumental breakthrough in terms of performance on th e IGPU spectrum. Amazingly done by AMD.
Could u test 8700g with overclocked igpu and memory?
Brother can you do a test with different ram clocks 5000mhz to 6000mhz+
youu the best bro can u do ryzen 5 5600g with rx 6600 xt please
Q: Can it run alan wake II?
A: Yes
request Radeon 780M OC 3.2GHz DDR5 6400 or above versus GTX 1650 and RTX 2050
Really that, the 8500G is just a weirder hybrid config than intel, 2+4....
I would likes to see Vega series vs 700m series benchmark to see how much improvement it is compare to Vega
Video is uploaded about R5 5600G Vega 7 vs 8500g vs 8600g: ruclips.net/video/nIb9xY0N4N8/видео.htmlsi=K82-GkD2CUg06_cl
@@ChristoGevedjov Thank you :)
First Bravo ❤
Only thing this does is further show why you need a discrete GPU if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Did you notice that you only have 300mb of VRAM allocated to the iGPU ?
Yes, i did. It's default vram, 512mb vram but in games is 448mb vram.
Fortnite on medium settings?
It's amazing, the Ryzen 5 8600G is amazing both performance wise and price wise, but I would call it 900P then 1080P gaming processor, oh and it would be more awesome if FSR3 and A.F.M.F comes to these processors
How about comparison video Vega 7 (5600G) vs 740M (8500G)?
bruh its at least 3 times stronger vega 7 cant handle 720p alan wake 2 while a 740m can run it in 1080p with acceptable frame rates
@@malik-mahdieso es por qué el 8500g tiene los mesh Shaders y el 5600g no los tiene
Lo normal es que el 8500g sea uno 50% más rápido que el 5600g
please make comparisom 8500g vs 5600g
I didn't knew there are Ryzen 6 in this new lineups lamo. For some reason 8600G consumes more power than 8700G. Why is that so?
About "For some reason 8600G consumes more power than 8700G. Why is that so?"
I re-tested three-four times scene on 8700G and still got same power numbers(I also restarted PC and it's still the same). So, I have no idea why 8700G some games is lower power than 8600G.
Wondered about that too. It looks like the 8000 series efficiency sweetspot lies around 3ghz too. 8600g only has 6 cores and boosts into turbo more often regarding to the videos, while 8700g can run lower frequency on good multi-core optimized games I‘d say, reaching lower TDP.
Christo, you could turn off CPB (is that what its called? Turbo) to compare the gpu efficiency better (not perfect)
8600g will win the tdp race for games I think
bro can you pls test battlefield 2042 on this cpu's? ty.
Temp diff??? Why?
Bro anyone can say witch is batter in Every way ryzen 5 7600g or ryzen 5 8500g im kinda confused
dang amazing vid my guy!!
for a 179 usd cpu to get 30+ fps on any game at 1080p without a gpu is ridiculously good.
just buy yourself a cheap 600-700 usd system with any of these and save up some money and buy a gpu later
thank u amd
14:25 isn't vulkan better than dx12 in rdr2?
Vulkan is better, but Vulkan or game have issues with fps. Like I have 40 fps smooth, after 4 seconds gameplay like 15 fps then came back to normal 40 fps, then again to 15 fps for a seconds. Then, I changed to Directx12 and this problem is fixed. It's so strange to see this problem is still there a long time...
Sorry, if this makes you a bit unhappy.
@@ChristoGevedjov dont worry, it was just a doubt, i didnt know that vulkan is having stability issues
Ok, start saving at least 5 years from now I have to have a computer with these specifications 🥺🤲 amin
These iGPUs are chocked so hard by the slow RAM.
Que fuente está utilizando? Yo me quiero comprar una de 600w white, con 32gb de ram y el 8600g
Hay mucha información sobre una computadora en una descripción.
8000g series only worth for sff builder/low power gaming pc. for typical use better go with cpu + gpu 😩
Question on the Power, does it mean when gaming, TOTAL Watt is C.Power + G.Power?
no its igpu so its total watt combined 90w cpu+igpu
its like your 'chipset' smartphone, everything are embedded into one proc, 8700g
2200g/3200g , 5600g still the only Apus that makes sense to buy for gaming.
Si no miras las cosas buenas de estás apus pues si