I downloaded Ryzen Master a few days ago. Didn't bother with it because I refused to believe the undervolting process could be this simple. It was. Thanks!
Seen that you liked my post. So thought it would be right to let you know that it worked perfectly On my 5600x. Tested with OCCT linpak for an hour, and idle on desktop for an hour. Also gained 200 points on timespy CPU score.
This worked for me. Thank you so much. My processor was getting into 90c and it was scaring me now it's much cooler in the 60's and 70's thanks so much
one of the best guides i have ever seen in my life, went from 80 on load to 66-68 with more stable performance on stock cooler 5 5600. thank you so much
I got +20% average fps boost with these settings on MSI x570 Tomahawk / R7 5700X . PPT/TDC/EDC set in BIOS to +200 (saw in some video that state those values just to max it out) same values reflected in Ryzen Master. Then Boost Override is set to 100. PBO Sclar is set to off. Curve optimizer-per core and after test it set all cores to -30. Control Mode is set to Auto Overclocking. So shortly its curve optimizer / per core all -30 / Auto Overclocking. No issues in games, temps are less 7-10 degree under load. On liquid 120mm ID-Cooling. Max temp in this OC mode under load reach 78C. Room temp 26C.
I’m pretty amazed how well Curve Optimiser worked.. here my results with Cinebench r23 Stock: score 15025, 82,4 celsius, pulling 94,3W. With CO - per core: Score 15848, 67,2 celsius, pulling now 72,2W. More then 20% of power reduction and 15 degrees cooler!
I used the exact method in this video, and voila! You're the man! Wish I found this earlier. My system is now running at the lowest possible temperatures. Not to mention the significant boost in performance. Ryzen 9 5900x Aorus Elite B550m Noctua nh d15. Thanks man. Subbed and liked.
This video has the most added value of all the ones I've seen on YT so far. This is really incredible, performance is top and the temperatures are down, feels like a new system. Thank you for that. R7 5800X on X470 👍🤩
Did a per core auto optimization on a 5600 and went from 77W / 68C to 44W / 55C at 100% utilization on a $14 92mm budget cooler. This was with a conservative -20 step (baseline is -30 at start) initial undervolt. Crazy efficiency.
Clear, concise guide - thank you! I had previously adjusted my 5900X All Core PBO in BIOS (-25), but ran this per-core optimization to see what it came up with. All cores are now individually set to -29. 6.3% increase in Cinebench R23 score over stock, and I've seen the CPU clock at 4.8GHz during Unigine Heaven benchmark - all at the same power. Temps in high 70s still bug me, but this is a Corsair a200 and despite the dedicated, custom AIO I'm not sure the single case fan is moving enough air through its radiator to do much better. Once my warranty runs out maybe I'll try re-pasting.
i have read another guy owning the 5900x and he got 77C max as well and very stable computer. He did set the PPT , TDC and EDC to reduced values, and set -25 like you did in core #0 to #5 and on core #6-#11 he did set -30, as the 5900 is built on 2 chiplets. Also you should use Artic mx-6 paste, which seems the best with 20% improvement. also you need a case with good airflow. The Cooler Master MA824 AM5/AM4 seems the best to air cool even the 7950x3d series. it beats Noctua D15. it is massive with 8 pipes. I plan to buy the 5900x soon, i will see if i get the same result. But i will try with my current cooler first, the Cooler Master hyper 212 evo AM4 with 4 pipes only. another great cooler and maybe the best could be the Artic Freezer AIO 420mm which provide the lowest temp, but the MA824 is an air cooler so it require less management than AIO.
@@CC-gt3ro Thanks for the reply. The a200 is a custom pre-built, small footprint ITX tower, so changing cases or coolers really isn't an option. It has two custom AIOs - one on each side of the case, and a fan at the top ventilates both. Works fine as long as the fan is responding to temp. I think the real problem with Corsair's design is that the sensor that controls the only fan in the system (a 140 in the 'roof' of the case) is on the MOBO - it's not actually looking at CPU or GPU temp. For example, while downloading a new game, the CPU will go into thermal limit before the fan speed starts increasing. This is a bit odd, IMHO. I'll leave it be as long as it's in warranty. My original a200 purchase had to be replaced due to pump failure - this one was shipped in Jan of this year but warranty still runs out in 6 mos. When it does, in addition to maybe re-pasting, I'll start experimenting with things like uninstalling iCue and using Fan Control instead, which can trigger fan adjustment based on any combination of temps. It's a great little system, but thermals are notoriously sub-par. It's basically a tradeoff for the awesome (IMHO) form-factor.
Has it been pretty simple since you last did this? Have you been running the same settings since you last posted? I was curious to do it in bios, but I might do it under Ryzenmaster, I don't know if doing it is Ryzen master vs doing in bios makes any difference if one is more reliable than the other? I've heard some says its the same, and others swear that Ryzenmaster is bad. 🤷
@@Snafu2346 Remained stable for as long as I used the system. I built a new custom game system and the a200 has been sitting on my bench, idle, since then. So, although I can say it ran great with these Ryzen Master settings for as long as I used it, I'm not currently running that PC today. FWIW...
Thank you so much for this. I wasn't even aware that Ryzen Master had the auto curve optimizer. I'd been struggling with stability when trying All-Core offsets, but never had the time nor the inclination to dial in per-core in BIOS. Now I ran it through RM and took a note of the values. Then I went into BIOS and input those values into the curve optimizer. Now it's permanent. Thanks again!
best ryzen master guide on youtube, no one else talks about optimizer per core, it's always "all cores". For my new 7600X, I got -28 on all cores except 2 had -26.
5600X In BIOS, I first adjusted all the Load line calibration settings, mode 2 on power delivery, restarted, then I applied XMP on the ram, restarted, then I activated manual PBO. I went into advanced settings, selected the Optimizer tab, clicked on the bottom right corner on the button that says "Copy current" to copy my bios settings onto Ryzen Master. Then I clicked the "per core option" and then "Optimize". Here's the thing, during the test cycle you can see Ryzen master do a multicore test, during this test take note of the PBO values that are not reaching 99-100%, for example, PPT at 40%, EDC at 80% TDC 99%. In order to see real results you have to first adjust the PBO values so that they are all at 99-100% at max load. This apparently affects it's efficiency. So if you get 80% load on the TDC at 100, you have to lower the TDC to 80-81, oddly enough, when you do this, temps increase and max peak speeds do to. Increase the PPT while keeping the TDC and EDC balanced at max tilt until temps are around 84-87 Celsius. For me it was PPT 120, TDC 80, EDC 95. THEN I ran the optimized, it then cycled through each core and after 50 minutes yielded the most efficient per core settings possible. I boost up to 4850 single core and 4720 multicore with temps below 87 celsius. Almost all the cores can boost up to and above 4800 on single core loads. After that you can mess around with the Scalar but It didn't really yield and benefits for me.
Happened to have the same cpu as you had in this video, was surprised it ran so hot. Did the Curve Optimizer and it really helped, especially during editing with Adobe Premiere Pro the CPU had to tendency to suddenly increase it's power. Now no longer!
One of the most precise videos I have ever watched! All other videos I have watched has so much BS in it that I can't understand it so you have definitely simplified everything. I'm running to Optimizer right now and hopefully everything will work.
Love this video! I recently purchased the 7950X and also the X 3D I went with the X3D to save on power consumption however I did not like the noise that it was about the same as the X variant so I decided to go back with the original 7950 X and followed your guide to optimizing with RM work great ! Other video on RUclips about RM makes it so complicated for beginners we don't wanna be overwhelmed we just wanna get our systems quiet and run efficiently without losing much performance :)
ive never done something like this before. Im currently running a 5600 and some games it his 85c and im using the Prism Cooler from the 2700x. How did it go for you? Im nervous that it will break my system if it fails or something, and i dont know how i would get it back to normal or whatever
@@sylviorapuano2688 It undervolts the CPU the CPU will run colder so even less chance to break and more performance cuz it will run at higher clock due to its low temperature.
After what I had read about the 5800 it looked the most suitable chip for my needs and it was always my plan to undervolt it. No overclock though. This did indeed improve performance and temps. massively. It stayed boosted throughout a Cinebench R.23 run and temperatures stayed well below expected. I think I also won at the silicon lottery but for this chip it is still a good move. Further I then undervolted my old FX-8350 (which I had been running and have now given away to a friend) and that also improved in temps and performance.
The problem with curve optimisation is that it does not change the actual curve itself. It merely "drags" the existing curve left along the (x, voltage) axis if applying a negative offset or right if applying a positive offset. This can and often results in a perfectly stable machine when run flat out but an unstable machine when the workload is light, since the offset which might be perfectly fine at 1.2 volts is not fine at, say 0.5 volts, especially since the lower the voltage, the higher the relative undervolt. The only way to truly test a curve offset is prolonged use of the machine at varying workloads using the real world applications the machine was built for. A good test for curve optimisation is the Serious Sam Fusion benchmark mode since unstable curve optimisation at lower voltages will almost always result in a screen freeze during a cut scene or when returning to the menu after the benchmark is run. Bottom line is that to be honest, the Ryzen Master automated curve optimisation is largely useless for real world usage and merely shows what voltages the CPU requires to run stable when flat out.
Thanks for putting this up, straight to the point and very informative! I'm just running this option now on my 5600 see what it comes out with ! Thank you and once again great quick easy to follow tutorial ✌️✌️
Easiest guide so far..im doing this on my 5600x as im writing now..will give the feedback on the result..im not that tech savvy knowing how to do things inside bios, but guide like this really helps
My 5500 max temp was reduced to 68c from 72c on Cinebench and the score is increased from ~9,6k to ~10,5k Not that much but still good. I also got 29, 29, 29, 29, 23, 28 value.
Hey, some things i don't understand. at stock in cinebench r24 : 1077 / 78° / 1,48v core VID / 145w i change to PBO all core -20 PTT 120w, result : 1088 / 68° / ~1,25v core VID / 123w but when i play a game like wow my temp is at 69-74° with CPU usage at 15-30% / ~85w / ~ 1,4 core VID. i don't understand why in a R24 bench with all core at 100% for 10mn i get arround 1,25 VID and in a game who don't really use the CPU the temp is bigger and the core VID is arround 1,4v
For 7800X3D i dont have auto curve tune option.Only manualy i can set and test. I set for all -20mv and work ok. Ryzen master Curve optimizator with autotune only support Ryzen 5000 desktop series and Threadripper PRO 5000WX... this say FAQ for Curve Optimizier.
Great video! First time pc builder here. I bought a R7 5700g only to turn around and buy this R9 5900x. Once installed, I had really high idle temps and spikes up in the 80s just by opening a browser window. I went to the basics like thermal paste coverage, cooler position/tuning, updated drivers, BIOS settings, etc. Now I'm optimizing using this method and saw 90c during the process. Hopfeully this is my issue. If not, I have to do more research. Parts: Asus rog strix b550-f wifi ii, R9 5900x, rx7800xt GPU, 64gb 3600mhz, 2x1tb m.2 pcie4, and 850w gold psu.
@@Diego-d5m When I wrote this comment, I went through a bunch of coolers. single tower fan, double tower fan, double tower double fan, 3 fans, and finally landed on an AIO. I bought the Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 280 and it's what I should have bought from the get-go. I ended up undervolting my CPU in the bios and don't run Ryzen Master. Now, I have an average of 45c when running 2 1440p monitors and a basic office workload (word, browsers, Webex phone, outlook, RUclips podcast). I have idle temps around 32c-25c. I messed around with fan curves and now my PC is super quiet, fast, and fun. I have a preset fan curve for an office load and a gaming load. Playing Starfield at 1440k on ultra settings (average 280 fps) I cruise at 62c to 65c for 2hr+ and still remain quiet.
@@Diego-d5m If you undervolt in the Bios you don't have to run a program to do so. I've always liked to run my PC lean with little to no programs/apps running in the background. So, If the bios is handling the voltage, a PC program won't have to be running in order to undervolt. I set it and forget it.
I did it like this, but it caused my system to no longer boot. It is a Ryzen 7 7700X on a MSI B650 Mainboard. Be careful with that, even this easy thing might be not that easy in the end. Pulling out the CMOS battery did the trick for me. After putting it back in, I needed several boots to get the system up&running again. So at the moment I'm not sure what to do next...
I've had the same issue with any "simple" adjustments in Ryzen Master (first time owning a ryzen chip set too). I have the Ryzen 9 7900x on a ASUS TUF B650m. Simply put, any adjustment I've tried has caused instability as well as extended to no boot, even trying PBO. Went through the same thing too of having to clear CMOS multiple times.. Am I missing something 🤔
@@bennet1266 You are wasting your time undervolting the 7900 (the non X version). It's already heavily optimized by AMD and they did a great job. You still can squeeze a 2 or 3% stable performance without random crashing , but don't expect lower temps or lower power consumption. IMHO it's just a waste of time with this CPU. Now if you want to overclock to reach the performance of the 7900x (you can get max 95-96 % perf. of the x version), that's another tutorial you want to watch. And of course expect the crazy temps and power draw of the X version as well. At that point the stock cooler can't cope and you need to buy a different one. The 7900 is basically perfect as it is. It's the only version AMD would have released if there wasn't a performance war with Intel. Just my opinion of course based on my tests. In case you are stuck with a machine that won't reboot after crashing, you need to shortcircuit the proper CMOS jumper or remove the battery of the CMOS. Sometimes it won't restart even after resetting the CMOS (just wait 5 minutes before giving up, because some MOBO takes a while to check the DRAM sticks), what I found working in my case was to remove the second stick of RAM , then re-insert it after the first positive booting. Just don't do something really stupid and brick the MOBO 😂😂
Definitely going to try this. Compared to trying to get the max out on am5 Asus board is difficult to say they least. Due to "AI" functions constantly changing things on the background. Including -25 undervolt suddenly no longer working. After fiddling around you -30. Few reboots later etc. And unpredictable unclear boost behavior. Looks like the times bios settings was the tool to get the most out of a CPU are over.
i don't see the curse optimzer mode on the basic menu, I only see gfx co value. when I go to advance view, I see the curse optimizer mode, but there is no start optimizing button. please help.
Really surprised of how well this worked, did -20 on all cores. Idle temperatures stayed the same at 50 or so but when under load the temps went from 80-90 to around 60👍
I followed this process but during the "Start Optimizing" process, It doesn't remind me to choose between : Continue with existing Offset and Restart with new Offset. It didn't even let me put -30. it just automatically starts optimizing. Am I doing something wrong?
I will try it tomorrow, i have 5900x and run same 4.1ghz at R23 and get 20k point’s. Would love when it’s working for me and i get some better temperatures and more boost. I have already done bios optimisation but its a hell of work and time and i don’t have anymore Time because my daughter 😁 My problem is Mainboard its mini ITX (Asus Strix x570-l Gaming ) and not the best power solution i sinking. We’ll see 😅
@@FPtechtalk not working for me, after optimisation im not longer able to boot Master tool. Immediately get a Bluescreen. Now i have a problem… P.s. after multiple times rebooting windows i boot in safe mode and changed settings in Master Tool.
Your having problems after using the simple view option in amd master? This is amd software and really should not cause any issues. Did you make any changes to the bios?
done the optimisation but curve optimiser mode is still set to off, how do you change this as it shows everything at -30 when i use advanced view on the curve optimiser tab but says it's off, 5900x
Unfortunately the option to optimize the curve optimizer is missing with my 7950X3D. I set manually -20 all core in bios and left it there for now. On my winter holidays i will try to find some nice per core values :)
Same here for my 7800X3D, no manual or optimise options available, even after a factory reset of my BIOS. I guess the X3D chips are not allowed those options. :( Still, I have managed to get -43 all core in my BIOS. -44 and it's a little unstable. -43 and I can run Cinebench R23 all day, plus an older version of prime95. I know I'm pushing it to the limit, but OCCT and the latest prime95 both crash instantly, but everything else I throw at it works flawlessly. I know some say you can't go below -30 PBO, but my testing says otherwise. Why else would -43 work and -44 not, if it only allow -30? And there is a very clear difference in performance between -43 and the other settings I've tried of -30, -35, -40, and a ridiculous -45 (yeah, that one didn't last long!).
Is that a think with x3d? my 7800x3d doesn't show it either. I thought something was wrong. It just shows under profile, "control mode" options of "eco, default, and auto OC", and under that its MEMORY, "none, or Expo 1". Is there no curve optimizer options through ryzen master and I just do it manually from bios?
@@Snafu2346 There should be a setting for a manual all-core curve optimizer, just like it is in the BIOS, but there isn't the option to allow it to auto optimize the PBO, like the one shown in the video. My guess is that the X3D chips don't get the auto optimizer in Ryzen Master.
@@Darkcyde13 ok, i found the manual one in the advance settings. I only see options for the curve optimizer and I tried -10, -20, and -30 and did a validation test. I only did the test for about 2 minutes at a time, I'll probably set them to test longer. I wonder why the x3d don't have the auto optimizer? I also tried setting it manually in my bios, I don't know if that makes it more reliable, or less than using ryzen master. Right now I'm running -20 on all core. I've used it for the last 10 hours or so and it seems okay, ran some cinebench. I havent' tried gaming yet to see if it remains stable but I assume if it runs cinebench it should be able to runs games as well.
@@Snafu2346 I've read that you should use either Ryzen Master OR do it in BIOS, but don't try to do it in both at the same time. I'm not sure why. Maybe things get mixed up? As it's quite easy in my BIOS (MSI x670E Tomahawk), I have done mine in there and I have not used Ryzen Master software. I did try the RM software when I first experimented with PBO, but it didn't work as well as I wanted it to, so I just reset the software and went back to the BIOS settings method.
Will the changes that app made be saved after closing it or shuthing down the pc, or it should be done in every session? Should i put values that app showed in BIOS?
Thanks!! I did not know ryzen master had this!! Ive been watching ALOT of undervolting vids about ryzen5 and 7 but nobody has spoken of this😅 Ive been putting all cores to -30 and it will be fun to see what happens after running this test😃
Hey quick question here. I used Ryzen Master again on a new desktop i got this year. Running a 5700G. It went perfect, temps dropped 10c this summer! But if im sitting idle in WIndows the pc auto restarts so it became very slightly. Do i have to lower the core values myself or just up the voltage? Where do i up the voltage? Silly question but im not gonna pretend im an expert undervolter having only done it 3 times now so far! 🙂
I thought you need to set PBO in the BIOS to take affect after reboot? Doesn’t the ryzen master only work for each session, and those tweaks go away after reboot?
best tutorial so far. I've seen a few with everyone tweaking in their bios, a lot of videos I've seen people have manually placed a -30 on "all cores" and some may or may not set a load line limit at a higher variable, or lower variable. I don't know if going directly through bios is better or worse or no difference when setting these undervolts. I'm assuming that when you use Ryzenmaster it auto changes the settings in the bios? will it reflect in the bios if you happen to browse through bios settings? Like how yours says "-21 to -23". Would you see that reflect if you were to manually go to your bios after using Ryzenmaster?
I'm no expert but on my own system this doesn't change the BIOS settings, but it does override them once Windows has booted and Ryzen Master loads in the background. As far as I can see at least for my BIOS I couldn't find a way of setting the voltage per core, only for all cores at once. Ryzen master sets it for each core, and better than that it auto tests each core to see what undervolt it will take. Each core isn't quite made the same, which is why this really helps. Setting a single value in BIOS is basically trial and error, plus voltage has to be set higher so it's set to what your worst core can handle.
Hello 👋🏼 When I use ryzen master to aplly changes, the computer crashes, the only way I have is to set it directly in the bios… so I put an all core undervolting (-22 best perf on R23) beacause I dont know the good value of each core… any solution ?
Ryzen Master optimising program test each core to find the lowest stable value. It's perfectly fine to set manually the same little less optimised value for each core. For example my cpu can't be optimized automatically by ryzen master. I started with -10 on all core and did a stress test before lowering the value by -5. I repeated this until i found the right stable value. For me this is -25. If the automatic way was available, perhaps RM would have found -27 -25 -27 -26 and so on, but frankly it does not make much difference
This is exactly the case. Not strange at all. Undervolting will most likely cause problems at idle not during stressful tasks. So, if you’re experiencing this that means you need to adjust one or all of your cores. Most likely it’s the most efficient or the second. But it could be any of you’re being aggressive with the curve. Test it
@@ajmainadil7915 just use the auto undervolt/overclock, i actually overclocked months ago. Only a few games my cpu goes to 95, but i have no cooler in my case (if i take the glass out, starts to cool down)
I had fun trying out Ryzen Master's curve optimizer, darn thing decided to run the test for 2 hours, said it was ready, then kept crashing if I applied the CO, I guess I'll be stuck just running the profile with Precision Boost Overdrive for now Edit: Running a Ryzen 5950x, first time I'm trying to OC it after putting a custom watercooler on it, did use this program once before on air cooling
If the MSI Afterburner's graph keeps the scale(units per division), max temp in Cinebench went down by about 13 degrees for me(it set all cores -30, hasn't restarted once during the evaluation stage)
@FutureProof TechTalk I'm confused, I took the test and 5 minutes before the end I went to the toilet and when I came back my PC restarted. AMD Ryzen Master did not start automatically either. When I then did an R23 Cinebench test, it was 10°C less than before undervolting. But now when I want to start AMD Ryzen Master, my PC crashes and restarts itself. I have a RYZEN 7 5700G
Love the video mate! Currently doing all cores as I started before stumbling across your video, does it matter too much that I’ve picked that instead??
With ly 5800x3 this is blocked in Ryzen Master and my latest Gigabyte bios does not allows me to edit curves. But you can with PBO2 Tuner. I missed the autotest feature of Ryzen Master though.
Can you use this while using the auto overclocking functionality at +200 mhz, or willt his cause instability's if you combine auto oc with the undervolting?
best undercoat/overclok is to let the bios with pbo..and all the other options as default/auto. Tried your advice and others from RUclips. Test on Ryzen master passed, but in games pc is restarting
I ran this with exactly your process, per core, but after finishing the test and restart, it shows Curve optimizer control on All core with -30 value. is it normal? I am using R5 5600
Just bought a 5800X that i've installed on my "MSI B550-A PRO" motherboard. great guide! Easy to follow and straight to the point which i appreciate. What i don't understand though is. When you press apply at the end does this change the values of the "Curve Optimizer" in the BIOS? If not, do i have to restart Ryzen Master everytime i want these values to take effect? Is it a good idea to let the "Auto Curve Optimizer" do it's thing and then change to these values manually in the BIOS (if the apply-button doesn't affect the BIOS values that is)?/ Thanks in advance!
The moment I clicked "Apply" after the "optimization" and rebooted, my Windows BSOD-ed. Wouldn't boot into Windows. Had to go into BIOS and turn off Curve Optimizer. Auto undervolting didn't work for me. Ryzen 7 5700x.
@@JALAL919 sorry just seeing your message. Yeah that auto thing is unreliable. What you can do though is go to BIOS and instead of Per Core setting, use ALL Cores, and set it to say a value of Negative 15 which should be stable likely. Negative 30 means you'll get better temps, but higher chances of BSOD. At negative 30 I immediately BSODed. I also BSODed at negative 20 but it was after a day or two. So i set it to negative 18 and it ran fine since. Just roll back 2 points once you get a BSOD.
If I do the optimisation in the basic view then get to the restart point, restart windows, and come back to ryzen master, it shows in basic view "per core" is selected but in advanced view it shows "all core", that's weird Edit :Actually, nvm, the curve optimiser test is giving me -30 to every core, hense the "all core" -30, is that good or bad ? the test were done in a 29.2° room could that be the problem ? (it's hot in south france atm) I have a 5600X with stock cooler (it doesn't get higher than 80° when i play my games so it's fine) 4.6ghz all core
Hello! About week ago I bought AM5 7700, set up all hardware, OS, and start testing. And here the trouble began. System Start randomly shutdown after working about 20-25 minutes everytime. Because I am beginner, I am installed windows two times, two time rebuild hardware, reputed again termopaste on processor. It doesn't help, I was very sad before watched one video about curve optimiser. I am manually in BIOS set negative -20 for all cores, and system worked one day stable, without shutdown. Now after watching your video, I will try as you showing, and hope it's help. Any advice from you?
Great guide! I have probably a silly question, but will those values automatically be applied whenever windows boots? Because ryzen Master isn't on autostart and i can't find an option to do so.
Finally tried it with my 5700g. Avg -20 curve and my idle temp went down about 12c, my boost clock per core went up by 50mhz. Still that's 400mhz in total for free! with less power usage and a cooler running cpu. Not bad!
glad i found this. my 5800x feels wierd. Hits above 90 (with a tower 212 style cooler) has 1.488v, and despite being a "4.8ghz boost" cpu, 1 core was hitting 5.5ghz out the box without changing any bios or ryzen master stuff??
I did this just like you with the same r9 5900x processor and got almost same results with cinebench r23 and the clocks but my temps stayed the same or even jumped up a couple Celsius from 80 to 83. Why is that? Shouldnt the temps be lower
I'm having issues with my 7600x on the X670E Steel Legend, with bios update 1.24. Windows 11 - 21996.1 I have a 280mm AIO, Liquid Freezer II Rev 3, and I have ensured 3 times that its functioning properly and is more than adequate cooling. BUT still no matter what, it cant get the temps down the same as what would usually be expected with these specs, and thus its thermal throttling and hitting max temps (95c). I'm getting around 12200 - 12400 in cinebench r23, when the expected result stock, even with a shitty air cooler should be in the range of 14k+ bench result. I've got this niggling feeling that its something to do with the bios, but I wouldn't know, because when I first set the PC up 3 days ago, I updated the bios with USB before I even installed windows. I really want minimal risks with installing BIOS updates, or roll backs for that matter, but I'm still wondering, does anybody else have this issue, or have had issues with low stock benchmarks on my board, and whether or not its worth rolling back my BIOS and if so, to which one. Specs: 2x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 16gb DDR5 6000 CL36 EXPO x670e Steel Legend Ryzen 5 7600x Zotac 3060 TI Twin Edge OC Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB SN850 1tb NVME Windows 11 - 21996.1
thanks for this. I did the BIOS method and it's been very unstable. I'm currently at -18 on all cores and the reason for that is because I started at -30 and have been working my way down. I was getting random reboots when my system was at idle. When looking at Event Viewer it showed errors on certain cores, so I'm assuming those cores weren't receiving enough voltage to operate and be stable. It sucks because at -30 I was getting much lower temps and an all core boost of 4.950ghz. At -18 I'm still getting lower temps, but not as low as I was getting with -30 and in terms of boost it's basically back to stock boost at only 4.5ghz all core. I'm going to give this Ryzen Master method a try and hopefully it performs better. On another note when doing this Ryzen Master method should I go back in the BIOS and reset those settings I changed when i did the BIOS method, back to default? Or will Ryzen Master automatically reset those for me?
I ran a cinebench earlier tonight that was damn near melting my chip reading 90c most of the time until i pointed a big fan at the back of the computer. I figure I need to undervolt cause I'm just using air to cool and idk what else i'd do to cool it. i'm not gunna do a water cooling system 0.0
Oh, another Q. To run Basic View/Curve Optimizer Mode/Per Core/Start Optimizing, it takes my 7700/6700XT 11 Hrs 25 Mins to complete. Can I ask why it takes this long when many YTs suggest it should take under 2 hours with a 5900X and others? The end results showed "-30" for each core. Is it safe to assume I can underclock between 90-150 mV for each of the core of my 7700?
My settings are perfect...but once i turn off pc i have to re apply settings in ryzen master.. Is there a way for ryzen master settings to be automatically applied upon pc start up?
it's strange... I did everything shown in the video however after optimization , my CPU was adjusted to -30 per core basis but I didn't get any temperature benefits nor my core frequencies increased. I was getting 5.1Ghz before the test and 5.1 after. Running R5 7600 with ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I motherboard and Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000. Looks like everyone is getting it but not me:). Temperatures on load was 84C before and after adjustments.
I chose Auto OC and Per Core then ran the optimizing, after it was done and I apply it and reboot. My settings on the left says Manual for control mode and All Cores for Curve instead of Per Core. Does Per Core only work on Default for Control mode?
Thank you so much , I got - 10 degrees in games on my 5700x all cores -30 and tested in cinebench 23 whit an end result of 15670 points on multi core 😁😁😁 . Peace
when you finished do a sha3 benchmark in aida64. Good luck with that. be prepared to dial back all the curve optimization. no 24 hours of testing needed. Just the SHA3 benchmark which lasts +/1 3 seconds.
Not sure if its only mine, but installed the software and ran the optimizer on my 5800x only to find it get stuck on the boot screen with the following message 'preparing auto repair'. Had to go back into BIOS to revert back in original settings to get the PC to start again. Why is this happening?
Thank you for this video. I was thinking about use the ECO MODE from the MSI motherboard, like 65w. I pass the all day studing about it and in the end of the night i found your precious video. I'm with the same processor of your: Ryzen 9 5900x, but i'm using air cooler.
I downloaded Ryzen Master a few days ago. Didn't bother with it because I refused to believe the undervolting process could be this simple. It was. Thanks!
Have watched so many videos on this, and this was the easiest one to follow. Straight to the point with 0 bollocks inbetween. Thank you!
Seen that you liked my post. So thought it would be right to let you know that it worked perfectly On my 5600x. Tested with OCCT linpak for an hour, and idle on desktop for an hour. Also gained 200 points on timespy CPU score.
This worked for me. Thank you so much. My processor was getting into 90c and it was scaring me now it's much cooler in the 60's and 70's thanks so much
when you began optimizing was your cpu temp averaging at a high amount?
@@ihyaiko5542 Yeah When you Start the Optimizer the Temps Go Upto 85C for me With an AIO.
@@ihyaiko5542 yeah it does because the system is pushing its limits untill its unstable, perfectly normal
W latach 90's? 😅
@@spikeweb5193 lol
one of the best guides i have ever seen in my life, went from 80 on load to 66-68 with more stable performance on stock cooler 5 5600. thank you so much
i did this too but now my cpu won’t go above 3ghz did. it do that for you?
@@ryano6071 Did you ever fix this? I have a 5600 and i kinda wanna do this, ive never done something like this before.
@@sylviorapuano2688 yes i was able to fix it have you tried using pbo?
@@sylviorapuano2688 you can always reverse all this either in the ryzen master itself or in the bios
@@ryano6071 hope you managed to reverse/fix it because losing 1-1.5ghz clock isnt too great ;D
I got +20% average fps boost with these settings on MSI x570 Tomahawk / R7 5700X . PPT/TDC/EDC set in BIOS to +200 (saw in some video that state those values just to max it out) same values reflected in Ryzen Master. Then Boost Override is set to 100. PBO Sclar is set to off. Curve optimizer-per core and after test it set all cores to -30. Control Mode is set to Auto Overclocking. So shortly its curve optimizer / per core all -30 / Auto Overclocking. No issues in games, temps are less 7-10 degree under load. On liquid 120mm ID-Cooling. Max temp in this OC mode under load reach 78C. Room temp 26C.
I’m pretty amazed how well Curve Optimiser worked.. here my results with Cinebench r23
Stock:
score 15025, 82,4 celsius, pulling 94,3W.
With CO - per core:
Score 15848, 67,2 celsius, pulling now 72,2W.
More then 20% of power reduction and 15 degrees cooler!
I used the exact method in this video, and voila! You're the man! Wish I found this earlier. My system is now running at the lowest possible temperatures. Not to mention the significant boost in performance.
Ryzen 9 5900x
Aorus Elite B550m
Noctua nh d15.
Thanks man. Subbed and liked.
This video has the most added value of all the ones I've seen on YT so far. This is really incredible, performance is top and the temperatures are down, feels like a new system. Thank you for that. R7 5800X on X470 👍🤩
Did a per core auto optimization on a 5600 and went from 77W / 68C to 44W / 55C at 100% utilization on a $14 92mm budget cooler. This was with a conservative -20 step (baseline is -30 at start) initial undervolt. Crazy efficiency.
How much time did it take?
Clear, concise guide - thank you! I had previously adjusted my 5900X All Core PBO in BIOS (-25), but ran this per-core optimization to see what it came up with. All cores are now individually set to -29. 6.3% increase in Cinebench R23 score over stock, and I've seen the CPU clock at 4.8GHz during Unigine Heaven benchmark - all at the same power. Temps in high 70s still bug me, but this is a Corsair a200 and despite the dedicated, custom AIO I'm not sure the single case fan is moving enough air through its radiator to do much better. Once my warranty runs out maybe I'll try re-pasting.
i have read another guy owning the 5900x and he got 77C max as well and very stable computer. He did set the PPT , TDC and EDC to reduced values, and set -25 like you did in core #0 to #5 and on core #6-#11 he did set -30, as the 5900 is built on 2 chiplets. Also you should use Artic mx-6 paste, which seems the best with 20% improvement. also you need a case with good airflow. The Cooler Master MA824 AM5/AM4 seems the best to air cool even the 7950x3d series. it beats Noctua D15. it is massive with 8 pipes. I plan to buy the 5900x soon, i will see if i get the same result. But i will try with my current cooler first, the Cooler Master hyper 212 evo AM4 with 4 pipes only. another great cooler and maybe the best could be the Artic Freezer AIO 420mm which provide the lowest temp, but the MA824 is an air cooler so it require less management than AIO.
@@CC-gt3ro Thanks for the reply. The a200 is a custom pre-built, small footprint ITX tower, so changing cases or coolers really isn't an option. It has two custom AIOs - one on each side of the case, and a fan at the top ventilates both. Works fine as long as the fan is responding to temp. I think the real problem with Corsair's design is that the sensor that controls the only fan in the system (a 140 in the 'roof' of the case) is on the MOBO - it's not actually looking at CPU or GPU temp. For example, while downloading a new game, the CPU will go into thermal limit before the fan speed starts increasing. This is a bit odd, IMHO. I'll leave it be as long as it's in warranty. My original a200 purchase had to be replaced due to pump failure - this one was shipped in Jan of this year but warranty still runs out in 6 mos. When it does, in addition to maybe re-pasting, I'll start experimenting with things like uninstalling iCue and using Fan Control instead, which can trigger fan adjustment based on any combination of temps. It's a great little system, but thermals are notoriously sub-par. It's basically a tradeoff for the awesome (IMHO) form-factor.
Has it been pretty simple since you last did this? Have you been running the same settings since you last posted?
I was curious to do it in bios, but I might do it under Ryzenmaster, I don't know if doing it is Ryzen master vs doing in bios makes any difference if one is more reliable than the other? I've heard some says its the same, and others swear that Ryzenmaster is bad.
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@@Snafu2346 Remained stable for as long as I used the system. I built a new custom game system and the a200 has been sitting on my bench, idle, since then. So, although I can say it ran great with these Ryzen Master settings for as long as I used it, I'm not currently running that PC today. FWIW...
temps in the 70s at full are totally healthy
Thank you so much for this. I wasn't even aware that Ryzen Master had the auto curve optimizer. I'd been struggling with stability when trying All-Core offsets, but never had the time nor the inclination to dial in per-core in BIOS. Now I ran it through RM and took a note of the values. Then I went into BIOS and input those values into the curve optimizer. Now it's permanent. Thanks again!
I got -30 to all my cores ryzen 5700X and -15C temperature, great vid!
you have a good chip then the highest mine allowed was -19 on the best core and 2 other cores the rest are -15 and -17
hows performance change?
@@alfa-psi 1 year after 100% stable
Thanks a lot for this. Out of the box my board was trying to shove 1.4v continuous into the chip when I set it up.
best ryzen master guide on youtube, no one else talks about optimizer per core, it's always "all cores". For my new 7600X, I got -28 on all cores except 2 had -26.
5600X In BIOS, I first adjusted all the Load line calibration settings, mode 2 on power delivery, restarted, then I applied XMP on the ram, restarted, then I activated manual PBO. I went into advanced settings, selected the Optimizer tab, clicked on the bottom right corner on the button that says "Copy current" to copy my bios settings onto Ryzen Master. Then I clicked the "per core option" and then "Optimize".
Here's the thing, during the test cycle you can see Ryzen master do a multicore test, during this test take note of the PBO values that are not reaching 99-100%, for example, PPT at 40%, EDC at 80% TDC 99%. In order to see real results you have to first adjust the PBO values so that they are all at 99-100% at max load. This apparently affects it's efficiency. So if you get 80% load on the TDC at 100, you have to lower the TDC to 80-81, oddly enough, when you do this, temps increase and max peak speeds do to. Increase the PPT while keeping the TDC and EDC balanced at max tilt until temps are around 84-87 Celsius. For me it was PPT 120, TDC 80, EDC 95. THEN I ran the optimized, it then cycled through each core and after 50 minutes yielded the most efficient per core settings possible. I boost up to 4850 single core and 4720 multicore with temps below 87 celsius. Almost all the cores can boost up to and above 4800 on single core loads. After that you can mess around with the Scalar but It didn't really yield and benefits for me.
Happened to have the same cpu as you had in this video, was surprised it ran so hot. Did the Curve Optimizer and it really helped, especially during editing with Adobe Premiere Pro the CPU had to tendency to suddenly increase it's power. Now no longer!
I didn't have that basic version, just advanced on my 5800X3D... I just use PBO inside my motherboard bios (Asus TUF x570) to -30 and work good ;)
One of the most precise videos I have ever watched! All other videos I have watched has so much BS in it that I can't understand it so you have definitely simplified everything. I'm running to Optimizer right now and hopefully everything will work.
Did it today on my Ryzen 5900X. Thanks for easy explain how to undervolt.
Love this video! I recently purchased the 7950X and also the X 3D I went with the X3D to save on power consumption however I did not like the noise that it was about the same as the X variant so I decided to go back with the original 7950 X and followed your guide to optimizing with RM work great ! Other video on RUclips about RM makes it so complicated for beginners we don't wanna be overwhelmed we just wanna get our systems quiet and run efficiently without losing much performance :)
Thank you so much for your video. First time I see an auto overclock/undervolt feature for CPU so useful like that.
ive never done something like this before. Im currently running a 5600 and some games it his 85c and im using the Prism Cooler from the 2700x. How did it go for you? Im nervous that it will break my system if it fails or something, and i dont know how i would get it back to normal or whatever
@@sylviorapuano2688 It undervolts the CPU the CPU will run colder so even less chance to break and more performance cuz it will run at higher clock due to its low temperature.
Best Video on the use of Ryzen Masters Curve Optimizer Function in Simple View... Well Done Sir! Cape Cod, MA USA
After what I had read about the 5800 it looked the most suitable chip for my needs and it was always my plan to undervolt it. No overclock though.
This did indeed improve performance and temps. massively. It stayed boosted throughout a Cinebench R.23 run and temperatures stayed well below expected.
I think I also won at the silicon lottery but for this chip it is still a good move.
Further I then undervolted my old FX-8350 (which I had been running and have now given away to a friend) and that also improved in temps and performance.
Thank you!! I've been looking for a way to get this done on my 5800x and you just explained it in the best way possible!
The problem with curve optimisation is that it does not change the actual curve itself. It merely "drags" the existing curve left along the (x, voltage) axis if applying a negative offset or right if applying a positive offset. This can and often results in a perfectly stable machine when run flat out but an unstable machine when the workload is light, since the offset which might be perfectly fine at 1.2 volts is not fine at, say 0.5 volts, especially since the lower the voltage, the higher the relative undervolt. The only way to truly test a curve offset is prolonged use of the machine at varying workloads using the real world applications the machine was built for. A good test for curve optimisation is the Serious Sam Fusion benchmark mode since unstable curve optimisation at lower voltages will almost always result in a screen freeze during a cut scene or when returning to the menu after the benchmark is run. Bottom line is that to be honest, the Ryzen Master automated curve optimisation is largely useless for real world usage and merely shows what voltages the CPU requires to run stable when flat out.
Works very well on the Zen 4 series too. I opted to set this through the UEFA though, since I run a dual boot (Win/Linux).
Thanks for putting this up, straight to the point and very informative! I'm just running this option now on my 5600 see what it comes out with ! Thank you and once again great quick easy to follow tutorial ✌️✌️
What did you get?
I have the same cpu what did you get?
So I have a 5600x. Took most of the day to run this on individual cores. Got better cinebench scores than similar systems.
Easiest guide so far..im doing this on my 5600x as im writing now..will give the feedback on the result..im not that tech savvy knowing how to do things inside bios, but guide like this really helps
Amd ryzen 5 5600??? Did this very del help you
Video* help you ?
@@grim_2k861hey I am doing the test on my R5 5600x, will let you know about my results
@@grim_2k861 his pc probably exploded 6 months no reply :))
No curve optimizer on basic view for 7800x3d
did you find any solution ?
@Math1eu- manual from bios. But you have to test which takes a long time. Just activate pbo and that's it. 10fps less no difference
press FN + #2 to go into advanced view
My 5500 max temp was reduced to 68c from 72c on Cinebench and the score is increased from ~9,6k to ~10,5k Not that much but still good.
I also got 29, 29, 29, 29, 23, 28 value.
A fellow 5500 user lets go
This improve performance ?
Hey,
some things i don't understand. at stock in cinebench r24 : 1077 / 78° / 1,48v core VID / 145w i change to PBO all core -20 PTT 120w, result : 1088 / 68° / ~1,25v core VID / 123w
but when i play a game like wow my temp is at 69-74° with CPU usage at 15-30% / ~85w / ~ 1,4 core VID.
i don't understand why in a R24 bench with all core at 100% for 10mn i get arround 1,25 VID and in a game who don't really use the CPU the temp is bigger and the core VID is arround 1,4v
Thanks! This was exactly what i was looking for in neat short package.
For 7800X3D i dont have auto curve tune option.Only manualy i can set and test. I set for all -20mv and work ok. Ryzen master Curve optimizator with autotune only support Ryzen 5000 desktop series and Threadripper PRO 5000WX... this say FAQ for Curve Optimizier.
I have this processor and i set ONLY auto overclock and my PC to restart and no image now 😨😅 i dont understand why
Great video! First time pc builder here. I bought a R7 5700g only to turn around and buy this R9 5900x. Once installed, I had really high idle temps and spikes up in the 80s just by opening a browser window. I went to the basics like thermal paste coverage, cooler position/tuning, updated drivers, BIOS settings, etc. Now I'm optimizing using this method and saw 90c during the process. Hopfeully this is my issue. If not, I have to do more research. Parts: Asus rog strix b550-f wifi ii, R9 5900x, rx7800xt GPU, 64gb 3600mhz, 2x1tb m.2 pcie4, and 850w gold psu.
it worked?
@@Diego-d5m When I wrote this comment, I went through a bunch of coolers. single tower fan, double tower fan, double tower double fan, 3 fans, and finally landed on an AIO. I bought the Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 280 and it's what I should have bought from the get-go. I ended up undervolting my CPU in the bios and don't run Ryzen Master. Now, I have an average of 45c when running 2 1440p monitors and a basic office workload (word, browsers, Webex phone, outlook, RUclips podcast). I have idle temps around 32c-25c. I messed around with fan curves and now my PC is super quiet, fast, and fun. I have a preset fan curve for an office load and a gaming load. Playing Starfield at 1440k on ultra settings (average 280 fps) I cruise at 62c to 65c for 2hr+ and still remain quiet.
@@BOBFudge Thats great! I also have a AIO 240mm. Why you did the undervolting in the bios and not with ryzen master? thank you for your answer.
@@Diego-d5m If you undervolt in the Bios you don't have to run a program to do so. I've always liked to run my PC lean with little to no programs/apps running in the background. So, If the bios is handling the voltage, a PC program won't have to be running in order to undervolt. I set it and forget it.
Thank you. Dropping the temperature by 10 degrees is great.
I did it like this, but it caused my system to no longer boot. It is a Ryzen 7 7700X on a MSI B650 Mainboard. Be careful with that, even this easy thing might be not that easy in the end.
Pulling out the CMOS battery did the trick for me. After putting it back in, I needed several boots to get the system up&running again. So at the moment I'm not sure what to do next...
I've had the same issue with any "simple" adjustments in Ryzen Master (first time owning a ryzen chip set too). I have the Ryzen 9 7900x on a ASUS TUF B650m. Simply put, any adjustment I've tried has caused instability as well as extended to no boot, even trying PBO. Went through the same thing too of having to clear CMOS multiple times.. Am I missing something 🤔
Thanks for letting know the CMOS trick. I will try to optimize my 7700x and will let you know if I have the same results.
Did you guys find a solution, did the curve optimisation with my 7900 and it had the same problem
@@bennet1266 You are wasting your time undervolting the 7900 (the non X version). It's already heavily optimized by AMD and they did a great job. You still can squeeze a 2 or 3% stable performance without random crashing , but don't expect lower temps or lower power consumption. IMHO it's just a waste of time with this CPU. Now if you want to overclock to reach the performance of the 7900x (you can get max 95-96 % perf. of the x version), that's another tutorial you want to watch. And of course expect the crazy temps and power draw of the X version as well. At that point the stock cooler can't cope and you need to buy a different one.
The 7900 is basically perfect as it is. It's the only version AMD would have released if there wasn't a performance war with Intel.
Just my opinion of course based on my tests.
In case you are stuck with a machine that won't reboot after crashing, you need to shortcircuit the proper CMOS jumper or remove the battery of the CMOS. Sometimes it won't restart even after resetting the CMOS (just wait 5 minutes before giving up, because some MOBO takes a while to check the DRAM sticks), what I found working in my case was to remove the second stick of RAM , then re-insert it after the first positive booting.
Just don't do something really stupid and brick the MOBO 😂😂
Definitely going to try this. Compared to trying to get the max out on am5 Asus board is difficult to say they least. Due to "AI" functions constantly changing things on the background. Including -25 undervolt suddenly no longer working. After fiddling around you -30. Few reboots later etc. And unpredictable unclear boost behavior. Looks like the times bios settings was the tool to get the most out of a CPU are over.
Great video my ryzen 9 5900x is running with lower temp and stable no more fans ramping up 🙏
Can’t wait to try this out, thanks!
Ryzen 7 7700 non X worked like a charm thanks :)
still working well? Any crashes or anything of that sorts? have the same setup as you. thanks
i don't see the curse optimzer mode on the basic menu, I only see gfx co value. when I go to advance view, I see the curse optimizer mode, but there is no start optimizing button. please help.
same problem
Really surprised of how well this worked, did -20 on all cores. Idle temperatures stayed the same at 50 or so but when under load the temps went from 80-90 to around 60👍
Wow, who would’ve thought the company that makes the processor also knows how to optimize it?
60+ degres on idle?what cooler you have??
I followed this process but during the "Start Optimizing" process, It doesn't remind me to choose between : Continue with existing Offset and Restart with new Offset. It didn't even let me put -30. it just automatically starts optimizing.
Am I doing something wrong?
I will try it tomorrow, i have 5900x and run same 4.1ghz at R23 and get 20k point’s. Would love when it’s working for me and i get some better temperatures and more boost. I have already done bios optimisation but its a hell of work and time and i don’t have anymore Time because my daughter 😁
My problem is Mainboard its mini ITX (Asus Strix x570-l Gaming ) and not the best power solution i sinking. We’ll see 😅
Let me know how you get on 👍
@@FPtechtalk not working for me, after optimisation im not longer able to boot Master tool. Immediately get a Bluescreen. Now i have a problem…
P.s. after multiple times rebooting windows i boot in safe mode and changed settings in Master Tool.
Your having problems after using the simple view option in amd master? This is amd software and really should not cause any issues. Did you make any changes to the bios?
i just got my 7800x3d and don't even have those options in ryzen master. is it not supported ?
done the optimisation but curve optimiser mode is still set to off, how do you change this as it shows everything at -30 when i use advanced view on the curve optimiser tab but says it's off, 5900x
same. did you find a fix by chance?
Unfortunately the option to optimize the curve optimizer is missing with my 7950X3D. I set manually -20 all core in bios and left it there for now. On my winter holidays i will try to find some nice per core values :)
Same here for my 7800X3D, no manual or optimise options available, even after a factory reset of my BIOS. I guess the X3D chips are not allowed those options. :(
Still, I have managed to get -43 all core in my BIOS. -44 and it's a little unstable. -43 and I can run Cinebench R23 all day, plus an older version of prime95. I know I'm pushing it to the limit, but OCCT and the latest prime95 both crash instantly, but everything else I throw at it works flawlessly. I know some say you can't go below -30 PBO, but my testing says otherwise. Why else would -43 work and -44 not, if it only allow -30? And there is a very clear difference in performance between -43 and the other settings I've tried of -30, -35, -40, and a ridiculous -45 (yeah, that one didn't last long!).
Is that a think with x3d? my 7800x3d doesn't show it either. I thought something was wrong. It just shows under profile, "control mode" options of "eco, default, and auto OC", and under that its MEMORY, "none, or Expo 1". Is there no curve optimizer options through ryzen master and I just do it manually from bios?
@@Snafu2346 There should be a setting for a manual all-core curve optimizer, just like it is in the BIOS, but there isn't the option to allow it to auto optimize the PBO, like the one shown in the video. My guess is that the X3D chips don't get the auto optimizer in Ryzen Master.
@@Darkcyde13 ok, i found the manual one in the advance settings. I only see options for the curve optimizer and I tried -10, -20, and -30 and did a validation test. I only did the test for about 2 minutes at a time, I'll probably set them to test longer.
I wonder why the x3d don't have the auto optimizer?
I also tried setting it manually in my bios, I don't know if that makes it more reliable, or less than using ryzen master.
Right now I'm running -20 on all core. I've used it for the last 10 hours or so and it seems okay, ran some cinebench. I havent' tried gaming yet to see if it remains stable but I assume if it runs cinebench it should be able to runs games as well.
@@Snafu2346 I've read that you should use either Ryzen Master OR do it in BIOS, but don't try to do it in both at the same time. I'm not sure why. Maybe things get mixed up?
As it's quite easy in my BIOS (MSI x670E Tomahawk), I have done mine in there and I have not used Ryzen Master software.
I did try the RM software when I first experimented with PBO, but it didn't work as well as I wanted it to, so I just reset the software and went back to the BIOS settings method.
Will the changes that app made be saved after closing it or shuthing down the pc, or it should be done in every session? Should i put values that app showed in BIOS?
Thank you. This is great.... Should I go to advance and to the curve per core with precision boost?
Thank's for the tip, that looks killer!
Thx for the video. The software is a little bit scary but now im ok with using it
Thanks!!
I did not know ryzen master had this!! Ive been watching ALOT of undervolting vids about ryzen5 and 7 but nobody has spoken of this😅
Ive been putting all cores to -30 and it will be fun to see what happens after running this test😃
and worked ? cause im thinking to make it
Undervolting videos are unlikely to mention this because they just apply the settings in the bios and save themselves 2 hours...
So this is basically undervolting for beginners? Then doing it in bios is for when you get more comfortable?
Hey quick question here.
I used Ryzen Master again on a new desktop i got this year.
Running a 5700G.
It went perfect, temps dropped 10c this summer! But if im sitting idle in WIndows the pc auto restarts so it became very slightly.
Do i have to lower the core values myself or just up the voltage? Where do i up the voltage?
Silly question but im not gonna pretend im an expert undervolter having only done it 3 times now so far! 🙂
I thought you need to set PBO in the BIOS to take affect after reboot? Doesn’t the ryzen master only work for each session, and those tweaks go away after reboot?
best tutorial so far. I've seen a few with everyone tweaking in their bios, a lot of videos I've seen people have manually placed a -30 on "all cores" and some may or may not set a load line limit at a higher variable, or lower variable.
I don't know if going directly through bios is better or worse or no difference when setting these undervolts.
I'm assuming that when you use Ryzenmaster it auto changes the settings in the bios? will it reflect in the bios if you happen to browse through bios settings? Like how yours says "-21 to -23". Would you see that reflect if you were to manually go to your bios after using Ryzenmaster?
I'm no expert but on my own system this doesn't change the BIOS settings, but it does override them once Windows has booted and Ryzen Master loads in the background. As far as I can see at least for my BIOS I couldn't find a way of setting the voltage per core, only for all cores at once. Ryzen master sets it for each core, and better than that it auto tests each core to see what undervolt it will take. Each core isn't quite made the same, which is why this really helps. Setting a single value in BIOS is basically trial and error, plus voltage has to be set higher so it's set to what your worst core can handle.
bro you really saved me from ripping my AIO apart hahahaha thank you man legit asf
Could of lowered vsoc, updated chipset driver, updated mobo driver but atleast you fixed it
As great as simple guide. Subscribed.
Hello 👋🏼
When I use ryzen master to aplly changes, the computer crashes, the only way I have is to set it directly in the bios… so I put an all core undervolting (-22 best perf on R23) beacause I dont know the good value of each core… any solution ?
Ryzen Master optimising program test each core to find the lowest stable value. It's perfectly fine to set manually the same little less optimised value for each core. For example my cpu can't be optimized automatically by ryzen master. I started with -10 on all core and did a stress test before lowering the value by -5. I repeated this until i found the right stable value. For me this is -25. If the automatic way was available, perhaps RM would have found -27 -25 -27 -26 and so on, but frankly it does not make much difference
For me the ryzen master settings are not stable. Strangely enough it is stable while benchmarking, but not in idle
This is exactly the case. Not strange at all. Undervolting will most likely cause problems at idle not during stressful tasks. So, if you’re experiencing this that means you need to adjust one or all of your cores. Most likely it’s the most efficient or the second. But it could be any of you’re being aggressive with the curve. Test it
Use it for testing, uninstall it and set those values in the UEFI. You don't need the app, other than not having to restart your PC all the time.
Good video, worked for me! My temps went from Average 83 Celsius to Maximum 71. My CPU Ryzen 5 5500 (Stock Cooler)
I also have a r5 5500
Did you follow the exact steps mentioned in this video?
@@ajmainadil7915 just use the auto undervolt/overclock, i actually overclocked months ago. Only a few games my cpu goes to 95, but i have no cooler in my case (if i take the glass out, starts to cool down)
I had fun trying out Ryzen Master's curve optimizer, darn thing decided to run the test for 2 hours, said it was ready, then kept crashing if I applied the CO, I guess I'll be stuck just running the profile with Precision Boost Overdrive for now
Edit: Running a Ryzen 5950x, first time I'm trying to OC it after putting a custom watercooler on it, did use this program once before on air cooling
If the MSI Afterburner's graph keeps the scale(units per division), max temp in Cinebench went down by about 13 degrees for me(it set all cores -30, hasn't restarted once during the evaluation stage)
@FutureProof TechTalk I'm confused, I took the test and 5 minutes before the end I went to the toilet and when I came back my PC restarted. AMD Ryzen Master did not start automatically either. When I then did an R23 Cinebench test, it was 10°C less than before undervolting. But now when I want to start AMD Ryzen Master, my PC crashes and restarts itself. I have a RYZEN 7 5700G
My pc restart when it goes 99% per core thing, after it restarts nothing pops up and when i try to open it again it just restarts to 0
Love the video mate! Currently doing all cores as I started before stumbling across your video, does it matter too much that I’ve picked that instead??
2:51 what do you do if you dont get the option to change it to -30? the only option i have is start optimizing
It's because he has already optimized his, but you haven't. Continue
After manually change in RM the value of a CORE y just click APPLY and that's all of i need to reboot so it gets applied in the BIOS too?
Thanks so much for that, excellent class
With ly 5800x3 this is blocked in Ryzen Master and my latest Gigabyte bios does not allows me to edit curves. But you can with PBO2 Tuner. I missed the autotest feature of Ryzen Master though.
Can you use this while using the auto overclocking functionality at +200 mhz, or willt his cause instability's if you combine auto oc with the undervolting?
best undercoat/overclok is to let the bios with pbo..and all the other options as default/auto. Tried your advice and others from RUclips. Test on Ryzen master passed, but in games pc is restarting
I ran this with exactly your process, per core, but after finishing the test and restart, it shows Curve optimizer control on All core with -30 value. is it normal? I am using R5 5600
ever fix this it happened to me as well?
Just bought a 5800X that i've installed on my "MSI B550-A PRO" motherboard. great guide! Easy to follow and straight to the point which i appreciate. What i don't understand though is.
When you press apply at the end does this change the values of the "Curve Optimizer" in the BIOS? If not, do i have to restart Ryzen Master everytime i want these values to take effect? Is it a good idea to let the "Auto Curve Optimizer" do it's thing and then change to these values manually in the BIOS (if the apply-button doesn't affect the BIOS values that is)?/ Thanks in advance!
It will change the bios settings so no need to start ryzen every time
The moment I clicked "Apply" after the "optimization" and rebooted, my Windows BSOD-ed. Wouldn't boot into Windows. Had to go into BIOS and turn off Curve Optimizer. Auto undervolting didn't work for me. Ryzen 7 5700x.
im doin it rn same cpu should i stop
@@JALAL919 sorry just seeing your message. Yeah that auto thing is unreliable. What you can do though is go to BIOS and instead of Per Core setting, use ALL Cores, and set it to say a value of Negative 15 which should be stable likely. Negative 30 means you'll get better temps, but higher chances of BSOD. At negative 30 I immediately BSODed. I also BSODed at negative 20 but it was after a day or two. So i set it to negative 18 and it ran fine since. Just roll back 2 points once you get a BSOD.
If I do the optimisation in the basic view then get to the restart point, restart windows, and come back to ryzen master, it shows in basic view "per core" is selected but in advanced view it shows "all core", that's weird
Edit :Actually, nvm, the curve optimiser test is giving me -30 to every core, hense the "all core" -30, is that good or bad ? the test were done in a 29.2° room could that be the problem ? (it's hot in south france atm)
I have a 5600X with stock cooler (it doesn't get higher than 80° when i play my games so it's fine)
4.6ghz all core
same happened to us. this tutorial is outdated and flawed and can kill machine i guess.
Works great so far, thanks man
Hello! About week ago I bought AM5 7700, set up all hardware, OS, and start testing. And here the trouble began. System Start randomly shutdown after working about 20-25 minutes everytime. Because I am beginner, I am installed windows two times, two time rebuild hardware, reputed again termopaste on processor. It doesn't help, I was very sad before watched one video about curve optimiser. I am manually in BIOS set negative -20 for all cores, and system worked one day stable, without shutdown. Now after watching your video, I will try as you showing, and hope it's help. Any advice from you?
Great guide! I have probably a silly question, but will those values automatically be applied whenever windows boots? Because ryzen Master isn't on autostart and i can't find an option to do so.
Finally tried it with my 5700g.
Avg -20 curve and my idle temp went down about 12c, my boost clock per core went up by 50mhz. Still that's 400mhz in total for free! with less power usage and a cooler running cpu.
Not bad!
Stable?
@@okbagaming7564 yes still stable not a single issue
@@OsmosisHD u did the all core or the per core one
Thanks!
glad i found this. my 5800x feels wierd. Hits above 90 (with a tower 212 style cooler) has 1.488v, and despite being a "4.8ghz boost" cpu, 1 core was hitting 5.5ghz out the box without changing any bios or ryzen master stuff??
I did this just like you with the same r9 5900x processor and got almost same results with cinebench r23 and the clocks but my temps stayed the same or even jumped up a couple Celsius from 80 to 83. Why is that? Shouldnt the temps be lower
I'm having issues with my 7600x on the X670E Steel Legend, with bios update 1.24. Windows 11 - 21996.1
I have a 280mm AIO, Liquid Freezer II Rev 3, and I have ensured 3 times that its functioning properly and is more than adequate cooling. BUT still no matter what, it cant get the temps down the same as what would usually be expected with these specs, and thus its thermal throttling and hitting max temps (95c).
I'm getting around 12200 - 12400 in cinebench r23, when the expected result stock, even with a shitty air cooler should be in the range of 14k+ bench result.
I've got this niggling feeling that its something to do with the bios, but I wouldn't know, because when I first set the PC up 3 days ago, I updated the bios with USB before I even installed windows.
I really want minimal risks with installing BIOS updates, or roll backs for that matter, but I'm still wondering, does anybody else have this issue, or have had issues with low stock benchmarks on my board, and whether or not its worth rolling back my BIOS and if so, to which one.
Specs:
2x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 16gb DDR5 6000 CL36 EXPO
x670e Steel Legend
Ryzen 5 7600x
Zotac 3060 TI Twin Edge OC
Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 A-RGB
SN850 1tb NVME
Windows 11 - 21996.1
Any idea why curve optimizer mode is not showing up under profile in basic view with my 7800x3d?
From what I have seen in the comments it looks like AMD removed that option for the 7800x3d. There may not be much room to underVolt that processor
thanks for this. I did the BIOS method and it's been very unstable. I'm currently at -18 on all cores and the reason for that is because I started at -30 and have been working my way down. I was getting random reboots when my system was at idle. When looking at Event Viewer it showed errors on certain cores, so I'm assuming those cores weren't receiving enough voltage to operate and be stable. It sucks because at -30 I was getting much lower temps and an all core boost of 4.950ghz. At -18 I'm still getting lower temps, but not as low as I was getting with -30 and in terms of boost it's basically back to stock boost at only 4.5ghz all core. I'm going to give this Ryzen Master method a try and hopefully it performs better.
On another note when doing this Ryzen Master method should I go back in the BIOS and reset those settings I changed when i did the BIOS method, back to default? Or will Ryzen Master automatically reset those for me?
I would reset the bios before starting so it’s a clean slate
I ran a cinebench earlier tonight that was damn near melting my chip reading 90c most of the time until i pointed a big fan at the back of the computer.
I figure I need to undervolt cause I'm just using air to cool and idk what else i'd do to cool it. i'm not gunna do a water cooling system 0.0
Oh, another Q.
To run Basic View/Curve Optimizer Mode/Per Core/Start Optimizing, it takes my 7700/6700XT 11 Hrs 25 Mins to complete.
Can I ask why it takes this long when many YTs suggest it should take under 2 hours with a 5900X and others?
The end results showed "-30" for each core.
Is it safe to assume I can underclock between 90-150 mV for each of the core of my 7700?
My settings are perfect...but once i turn off pc i have to re apply settings in ryzen master..
Is there a way for ryzen master settings to be automatically applied upon pc start up?
Need an update for this. The button for start optimize is not there.
Have B650 TOMAHAWK and 7800x3d
Have you found any solution to this???
@@aety_aeterna no unfortunately 😔
it's strange... I did everything shown in the video however after optimization , my CPU was adjusted to -30 per core basis but I didn't get any temperature benefits nor my core frequencies increased. I was getting 5.1Ghz before the test and 5.1 after. Running R5 7600 with ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I motherboard and Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000. Looks like everyone is getting it but not me:). Temperatures on load was 84C before and after adjustments.
I chose Auto OC and Per Core then ran the optimizing, after it was done and I apply it and reboot. My settings on the left says Manual for control mode and All Cores for Curve instead of Per Core. Does Per Core only work on Default for Control mode?
Thank you so much , I got - 10 degrees in games on my 5700x all cores -30 and tested in cinebench 23 whit an end result of 15670 points on multi core 😁😁😁 . Peace
when you finished do a sha3 benchmark in aida64. Good luck with that. be prepared to dial back all the curve optimization. no 24 hours of testing needed. Just the SHA3 benchmark which lasts +/1 3 seconds.
Not sure if its only mine, but installed the software and ran the optimizer on my 5800x only to find it get stuck on the boot screen with the following message 'preparing auto repair'. Had to go back into BIOS to revert back in original settings to get the PC to start again. Why is this happening?
Can you educate a newbie?
Can I run MSI Afterburner, AMD Adrenalin and this SW (Ryzen Master) at the same time or choose only one as they might clash?
Thank you for this video. I was thinking about use the ECO MODE from the MSI motherboard, like 65w. I pass the all day studing about it and in the end of the night i found your precious video. I'm with the same processor of your: Ryzen 9 5900x, but i'm using air cooler.
Let me know how you get on with this
Where do you find the ECO MODE in the MSI bios?... i dont have that option when i look, only disable, enable, enchance 1,2,3, enchance boost 1,2,3
@@andys4705eco should be on the first page or ez bios I think it's called