I just got Oculus Quest 2 and what many don't mention is IPD of max 68mm... in my case I find it hard to play long and not sharpest etc. Other then that, it's great for it's value.
I own both Index and VP2. Been a long time Index user and the VP2 is fairly new to me since I just purchased it from Amazon. So far the more I use VP2 the more I like it. Two main factors VP2 has over the Index that are important to me: lighter weight and better resolution. Make sure you get a beefy gpu to squeeze the last drop out of the VP2 in my case the 3080ti does wonder on that regard. VP2 is a keeper for sure.
@@Josh-rn1em Well Vive Pro 2 is definitely better for games and of course you can watch movies and anything on it. But you need a powerful PC to enjoy it to the maximum. You can't use it stand alone without it. That's the benefit of Oculus.
I have both vp2 and index. I think I still mostly play with index. Index has more vertical fov compared to vp2 also speakers and mic is way better. I think I need to test vp2 with some predefined equ profiles that should fix speaker problem. With vp2 even smaller resolutions look more nice because smaller SDE. So I usually use vp2 if I want some good looking VR and index if I also need good audio or I get more benefit for different fov shape.
i cant get rid of the feeling that fov only matters, if you have something you can compare it to. like if you only ever used the vp2, you would never see it as a downside?
Just recently ordered a Vive pro 2, looking forward to testing it out. Have a 3060ti so hopefully I have no issues. Gotta be better than my old PSVR anyway.
@@JONminiminiME Had it a couple of days now. Pretty happy with it so far. Haven't tried too many games on it yet just Beat Saber and Skyrim. My psvr crapped out on me about a year ago, not that I used it all that much, the vr sickness was very apparent with psvr I found. It only took me a few hours to get my vr legs with the vive and I barely feel any discomfort at all when using for extended periods of time.
@michaelcarter6928 Hey mate i also got a 3060 ti and planning on getting a vive pro 2. Have you had any struggles with it or anything and do you think its worth buying?
Once people realize vr is not just for gaming. Just as an iPhone is not meant for gaming but for communication and viewing media the will quickly realize the benefit of having an oculus. It’s the future.
You can fully accessorize the quest 2 to make it really comfortable with vr cover facepads, and prescription lenses to make images visually sharper. Extend its playing time dramatically with a battery pack and add quality clip on speakers and use a pu leather padded halo design type headstrap. Add kiwi design grip straps with easy battery access and halo ring protectors for your quest 2 controllers. Buy a amvr silicone shell for extra headset protection for the 4 built in cameras. Even add a headset mounted demister fan for lenses. In total I spent $850 usa to buy a 256 gb quest 2 and do these mods.Worth it.😁
I don't know if u have ever used a PCVR HMD before but I have the Index & Quest 2 and I can say that the Index is just better rlly. I get why the Quest 2 is nice and all, but $850? If u have the PC just go w/ the Index or HP Reverb G2. (Reverb is lit $400 wtf that's insane). The idea of an All-in-One VR headset is more just people who don't have the PC, which is fine I understand. But the experience w/ PCVR is unmatched and will be probably forever.
@@bluestscrew7833 the hp reverb g2 just does not seem worth it given its very limited tracking, generic controllers, and how the only thing that appeals to me over pretty much any other modern headset is the speakers being the same as the Index, and as someone who has owned a Rift S, Quest 2, *2 Indexes* and a Vive Pro 2, the Index has the worst durability I've ever seen on any VR headset from the headset itself to the controllers and even the cable. if your link cable breaks with a quest 2 from very heavy and careless usage you spend $80 for another cable, if your Index cable even starts to break from literally just using it actively for less than a year you have to pay like $110 for a new tether, $5 for a new clip, and $115 for a new headstrap if the part that keeps the cable in place snapped off. I agree that the Index is a better experience especially given it's like that out of the box, but for $150 LESS you get a headset that should last years given how indestructible the Q2 is with a negligibly worse experience once you're used to it rather than a $1000 headset that after under 1 year of active usage had a broken headstrap, a cable showing signs of failure, and after roughly 10 months of having the replacement Valve gave me the cable actually did fail, my headstrap was in even worse condition, both controllers are broken in some way with neither knowing when my thumb is on the joystick and both developing horrible drift... it's honestly much more worth it to just mod the quest 2 like this guy did and spend the extra $80 to get a link cable (or less for a third party one!) and still be $70 under for something that will last much, much longer
@@MidnightNachos Wow uh, didn't expect that much from that, but what if u used index controllers w/ base stations (using the HP Reverb)? Also I've never had any problems on the Index it depends on what games u play and the care u give for your headsets. Mine is still basically mint after 2 years because I always clean every part with isopropyl alcohol and so far no issues. I would also like to say that all electronics are different compared with games. Tbh high intensity games w/ a lot of movement is not really suited for PCVR rn because of that cable and weight. It just depends on what u do.
i have a 3060 laying around but still using my old 1080.....upgraded from vive to vive pro 2 and i'm LOVING it! My only gripe as a vrchat player is HTCs very bad mic. Now, i have fixed it somewhat with a popfilter, but compared to my steelseries headset (mic and speakers) i can clearly say that the VP2 have a bad mic compared to other headsets like the index which has a really good mic and not put straight infront but more to the side.
i think comparing these 2 headsets is quite unfair because the 2 are in 2 different playing field. i say compare the index with the vp2 or hp reverb 2 vs quest 2. mainly because a 300 headset vs a 1400 dollar setup not even counting the beefy ass computer you need to even run as well if you want to play wirlessly the adapter alone is more than the quest 2.
bought a quest 2 a month ago and im hooked to vr so now looking for a high end experience, deciding between staying with the wireless experience of the quest or going for a vive pro 2 or valve index.
Similar but stay away from wired VR it's just not a good experience. I was an early buyer of the Vive and hated the wire with a vengeance due to constant tripping and tugging on the head and ended up selling it. Now with the Quest 2 despite the dull colours and loweish resolution it's just a great experience. Will never go back to any VR that's wired. VR should never have you tied to something it should be free movement.
@@tomsworkshop9974 I don't believe that. It would be slapping against the side of your head and arms. There's no way to avoid the immersion-breaking of a wire.
This video is very nice for VR enthusiasts like myself to see what to upgrade to after your Q2 I was running a hybrid base station / FBT / virtual desktop situation with my Quest 2 - and it has served me faithfully for almost 2000 hours. Sadly disaster struck last night and for unknown reasons, the charging port and charging cable fried them selves. I am assuming a power surge despite surge protection. Anyway - old faithful is dead. I was waiting for the Index 2 personally but now my paw has been forced! Thanks for the very informative video!
I hear everything... I mean, does the VP2 have a better screen? Yes. Does it have better audio? Yeah probably. But there's no denying the value the Quest 2 has. I have an OG Vive, and after using the Quest controllers, the Vive wands are now dead to me! I use them for Beat Saber from time to time(and I still, am always hitting that f'ing menu button), but that's it. The VP2 may be better in some ways.. but it sure as hell isn't $1,100 better wired, or $1,400 better for wireless! Just no way. I would love to see a true competitor!
I have og vive and quest 2. And quest 2 is awesome!!! I love the vive but the portability, ease of use, and wireless makes quest 2 way better at times. The res bump on quest 2 is pointless as all the graphics are blurry, it's like smearing vaseline on your 4k oled TV, yeah its 4k but a smeared 4k. They should have kept the same quest 1 res or even lower like 1200p as the 1st rift and vive had so graphics are not a blurry mess
its genuine 5k, the first of it's kind, the resolutions simply are not comparable as using a Vive pro 2 would be akin to putting on glasses for the first time.
I'm really interested in the vive pro 2 but the controllers... does anyone know of any other controllers (other than the valve index controllers) that are compatible???
@@rune_lol i've had it for like a year and a half and it's still really good but my left controller ended up getting stick drift. Also the headset can get really uncomfortable after long play sessions but overall it's a really good headset
yes it does reduce your experience but if you play games with simplistic looks or smaller areas like gorilla tag beatsaber or super hot but on these games you usually find yourself bumping into your furniture
i rather pay more for immersion than paying for separate gpu and cpu in standalone headset i have powerfull pc so it dosent make sence to not use it on full potencial
I bought a used Quest 2 off eBay which broke within 2 weeks, and Meta customer service sent me an exchange replacement for free with no proof of purchase and no shipping fees. I couldn't actually believe they did that.
yeah im surprised he didnt mention glare, edge distortion, or sweet spot issues. I have vp, vp2, quest 2, and og vive quest 2 is so much more clear than vp2 as far as lenses
Tbh, the only reason the oculus hasn't erased vive is because of it being linked to facebook, which I overlooked till I got banned, I think it was because I put a fake first name and last name, and now I'm locked out of my oculus.
I am a vive pro owner and recently got the chance to spend some time with a quest 2 and it's kind of funny I'm very used to the vive controller's and I hated the quest controller's and seeing what some of the same titles looked like on the quest I could never have one for my main headset I guess I'm spoiled.
Well obviously lol if you are already a person with a gaming pc and a headset like the vive, obviously it’s gonna be a very different experience for you playing the quest 2. The quest 2 is an all in one, meaning it’s best for people who don’t want to have a gaming pc or an external console system to play vr, they wanna just be able to hop on, play a few games and pop off.
@@alechamilton1864 Yeah I have basically one of the higest spec gaming PCs you can get RN that being said I was impressed that the quest can run titles like zenith even at all and I look forward to the day when the inside out tracking matches what I get with my vive.
@@ryanc9287 Ryzen 9 5900x evga ftw3 rtx3080 32gb 3600mhz ram 2 m.2 2 ssd on a msi x570 pro be quiet 1500w psu then I crammed it all into a fractal meshify2 which barely fit with the aio for the cpu.
i loved the q2 but ended up returning mine unfortunatley to me (personally) the conneciton to the PC is pointless as its only a video stream, shocks me how many people a) dont mind this or worse b) dont know. Even with a top end wifi 6 router it was still very evident i was playing a video stream rather than the real thing. Tetherless is great but its just not worth the sacrifice to me but the biggest issue on both the q2 and the vive pro 2 is its LCD instead of OLED, dark games are awful on them, i wish theyd return to OLED to that of the OG Vive.
@にじか hey dude, imagine playing a game on your pc, the graphics are direct from your gpu to your monitor and you view through that monitor that’s what you get with a wired headset like the vive. The quest 2 only allows you to play it’s limited hardware standalone or via pc, when done through pc (even with a wire) it sends a stream of video instead like google stadia but instead of over the internet it’s over WiFi from your pc. Streaming video has flaws such as discolouration, buffering quality drops, artefacts and latency occasionally or if you move out of your wifi hotspot, haven’t got a great wifi 6 connection etc, it cann ruin the experience sometimes. Some people can’t tel the difference and others don’t mind it, it does the same wether it’s wired via usb or wireless. Oddly enough I’ve just ordered another quest 2 today, they are great little headsets but depends what your used to, it has its pros and cons compared to a proper pc wired headset. One of my biggest niggles as well as the video streaming part the fact that it’s a lcd panel is annoying, unlike my vive which is oled, the quest 2 (and a lot of the newer pc headsets tbh) use led and aren’t great on really dark game scenes because they are washed out with greys due to poor blacks… horror games like affected, paranormal activity, visage are kind of ruined by this. What it makes up for is wireless is great, the tracking on it was impressive, it has almost no screen door and is higher resolution than most top end PC headsets. If your thinking about ordering one I’d say do it, you can always send it back if you don’t like it.
@Watching RUclips Daily I know exactly what you mean I ended up buying another quest 2 and still have it. I love the wireless ness but things about the quest 2 are really annoying me lately. 1) I’ve setup my Wi-Fi 6 router perfectly with it but still struggle with playing pc games because it’s blatantly a video feed and no matter how hard I try it always suffers from latency issues the feeling isn’t on the same league as a proper pc wired headset which is so fluid and smooth in comparison I find I mostly use my q2 for headset only games using it’s low spec processing which once you’ve played of on a pc wired headset it quite a considerable drop back! 2) this is my biggest gripe - the casting is. Temperamental and almost pointless. Whenever I get someone playing it and they get stuck or are unsure what to do, unlike pc where you always have the monitor to guide them the cast feature is hit and miss to the point I don’t even bother nowadays giving any one external a total disconnect from that person playing vr - this isn’t mentioned nearly enough. 3) I was really happy when oculus put a brightness control on it as on minimum it really helps with that grey glow being an lcd but honestly it’s still basically pointless for any dark scened games. I’ve got it where my niece and nephew always ask to play something scary and they are fine playing scary games on the q2 they wouldn’t dare play on the vive and it’s obvious it come straight down to those poor blacks on the quest making a huge difference and feeling of immersion being destroyed due to the lcd panel. I am really considering selling it tbh and getting a vive pro but I think I’m gonna struggle with the wire again now tbh
@Watching RUclips Daily I’ve always been curious about the pimax or what pc headset to get next if at all and think you’ve swayed me to getting a vive pro with the gear vr lens 🤔
@@MavenProductions247 I have quest 2 and I connect it via original link cable to the pc and I don't have any lag or quality drop when I play pc vr games. may be your cable is defected or you have defected headset. mine is perfect .I also tested the steam vr games and I don't have any problem with it. the lcd is a little let down for me. I wish they use oled on this headset. but overall considering the price the quality of lcd is really good and this is a really good headset.
Quest 2 is insane! I just got the vive pro 2 and using it further cements the fact that the quest 2 is a beast! With virtual desktop and a badass router you can run games on the quest 2 well beyond its native resolution and thanks to SSW its amazingly smooth. Granted it is not as sharp as the vive pro 2 but it is damn close and the performance difference is just crazy. Virtual desktop and Oculus have worked some magic into optimizing pc vr. Im quite upset with the performance on my vive pro 2 and I have a 3080ti. It astounds me that i can get the quest 2 to look this good wirelessly.
@@TechMaestro01 basically turning a circle slightly into a rectangle. It's not mind blowing and you can't use the fov anyways because moving your eyes off center is a blurry mess. Pimax headsets have the wow fov but in the end you still have the same problem where you have to keep your eyes dead straight. Although on pimax you could wander your eyes ever so slightly without getting blurry.
Its an amazing headset. Im using the vive pro 2 since launch and it does need Some getting used to but when you get used to this headset its an outstanding experience. The FOV is really wide even wider than the index the resolution is stunning and the colours are great the refresh rate is also really nice.
Is it true that if you get banned on fb you cant use the ocullus quest 2 anymore? and if you link the quest 2 to your fb account you cant resell the quest 2 later on if you don't like it? please quest 2 owners help me out here :D also are you not worried that fb probably use the cameras you have on the headset to record your room and look trough your room, items, etc?
Vive pro 2 beats it. G2 is good for simulators but vive pro 2 so much better with tracking and no heavy software of HP needed other than steam. Black levels of vive pro 2 were better too. It would be easy for me to justify g2 better because i bought it later but i really cannot.
i’ve heard that the best vr headset right now is the pimax, pimax 5k super is wayy better than the htc vive pro 2 the difference between the price isn’t that big but its definitely better and 100% worth it
interesting comparison, but kinda in 2 playing fields when it comes to real world customers. Quest 2 is like, $300. while the Vive is around $3,000 minimum. You NEED a good PC. You don't have to go all out, but you'll need a solid $1,750-$2,000 PC built to be honest. Plus the $1,400 for the Vive. so the vive is minimum 10 times the price of the quest 2. I personally hate the quest 2, but when comparing pricing.....it's like comparing a base model honda civic to a high trim model audi. if you just want the driving experience then you'll get the civic since it will basically do the same thing as the audi, but obviously the audi is a "cooler" experience.
The "cooler" experience to me is always with the Quest 2. Everytime I put on the headset I'm amazed I'm getting 95% of what the PC tethered headset guys get for pennies in comparison.
The cable isn't really that big an issue unless you're really walking around a lot in room scale VR, which most people wouldn't do anyway because it isn't safe to do so unless you have a dedicated room.
Playing Super Hot in my living room and literaly rolling on the floor to avoid bullets with wireless Quest 2 is something sooooo incredible. And for the price its incredible. Quest 3, even if double priced will be the next choice no doubt.
I have vive 1 and quest 2...cable is a huge issue for many games that actually have you moving quick and arena fighting. I love the vive and play many many games around cable, but you begin to always play the game around the cable like half steps, 180 degree turns vs 360 etc. I didn't realize how much I had to do until I noticed I kept doing unnecessary moves on the quest 2, I then realized cables do make a huge down grade l, but the fidelity of pc VR is soooo much better
@@yesyes-om1po Long story 'kinda' short, few years ago I switched from buying a PC to buying Laptop + External GPU (Razer Blade + Core with 1080Ti). Never buying a bulky PC again, or it's just me. 😁😁
@@statejake5267 yeah im aware of that but it’s a usb data cable, not a video cable and when connecting via that cable it still sends a streamed video, not the same as a wired headset which sends the displays directly
@@MavenProductions247 The streamed gameplay is pissing me off. And sometimes I have issues with it, like all of sudden getting 10 fps on the game were I usuall have 60-100 fps. (using RTX 3070ti). Do you think I should switch to the Vive Pro 2 ? I really hate vive pro controllers but maybe I'll buy knuckles ones one day.. I play a lot of beat saber, I found the tracking on the quest 2 very good, is the lighthouse tracking has good as the quest 2 ? Or better ? (With the 2.0 base stations)
The specs on the HTC website do not match the specs your saying. EG FOV only 110 not 120 Refresh rate only 90 not 120 And also resolution is half Not sure why but all the reviews are saying what you say yet the website does not.
i got vive pro 2 today just for beat saber thats all i play and cord doesn't borther me way to much only way u move around is on 360 songs but other then that your mainly standing and looking stright and nothing beats vr for me lol but cause i have 4 2.0 base staions al ready and 2 2.0 controllers you compare the tracking with beat saber from quest and vive pro 2 and quest is gabage for tracking u sort of need base stations and thats why i prefer vive and valve index dont recomend the vive cosmos or cosmos elite tho they arent good well this is my second vive cosmos elite headser and its blacking out after every 3 minutes so its unplayable so thats ethier headsets getting over heated i normally play for a good 2-3 hours on streams so but this headset today just the headset 1449 dollars lol for new zealand from pb tech and i naysy and she said its really good for beat saber her best experence so that alone made me want it casue that and blade and sorcery oftenly are really the only games i like for vr only other game that would be awesome for vr would be halo vr like just bring the halo 1 2 and 3 into vr omg being in halo i want that to happen before i die that would be a dream come true for me and blade and socery is the best star wars light saber vr feeling with mods you can get i reckon but do you play beat saber and would you recommend it plus for yt and stuff vive pro 2 is alot better for 4k beat saber videos lol
@@sockdip69 and pavlov also bort valve index controllers for 725 usa dollars witch goes to 1107 for new zealand dollars off ebay worth every peny i love my index controllers
@@sockdip69 another vr game that i would love to arrive would be halo vr i would buy that on release i have had halo vr as a wishlist for a very long time don't no if they will do that cause then xbox couldn't play so thats why it probably wont happen unless xbox make a vr
Oculus quest 2 you can always buy lots of attachments and wires plus power banks.. it will cost you way less than HTC 2.. Geforce 3080 Rtx half life Alex the best vr I ever played
0 place on RUclips show or talk about vive pro 2 . It's impossible to find teturiol for it . I still have 0 idea how to use it. you are talking more about the quest 2 vs vive and talk it down more. you forgot to say if you want a better exp in vr you get pro 2 it sounds like vs cant belive or justify the more expensive one.
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I just got Oculus Quest 2 and what many don't mention is IPD of max 68mm... in my case I find it hard to play long and not sharpest etc. Other then that, it's great for it's value.
I have to raise the quest 2 above my eyebrows a bit...that cures the beer Google blur for me.
You can always use sidequest
@@everestgreenest This.
@@user-bj1mx2ip1c LOL beer goggle effect. nicely put. i had issues with my quest 2 being like that then i pretty much did what you did.
I own both Index and VP2. Been a long time Index user and the VP2 is fairly new to me since I just purchased it from Amazon. So far the more I use VP2 the more I like it. Two main factors VP2 has over the Index that are important to me: lighter weight and better resolution. Make sure you get a beefy gpu to squeeze the last drop out of the VP2 in my case the 3080ti does wonder on that regard. VP2 is a keeper for sure.
How’s the sweetspot in the VP2 compared to the index?
@@yepisme455 Would you elaborate "sweet spot" (in what regards)
@@hueyfoo i think he means hardware sweet spot. If he hasn't replied in 2 months im guessing he has lost interest
My Vive just developed red and green verticle lines. does that mean it will soon fail like Valve Index does?
I have 2080ti. With this gpu, would you still buy VP2 or would you rather go for Valve index?
Having a good Elite strap for the quest changed my experience in comfort a lot.
You didn't mention that the quest 2 display drops off big time unless its plugged up to your computer.
I have both. Vive Pro 2 for home gaming and Quest 2 when I go out for a weekend when I have some free time in my office.
What's better for games? Can you use the vive pro without PC? Like can I watch movies and all that on it?
@@Josh-rn1em Well Vive Pro 2 is definitely better for games and of course you can watch movies and anything on it. But you need a powerful PC to enjoy it to the maximum. You can't use it stand alone without it. That's the benefit of Oculus.
@@lukasloucky3341 can't watch movies or anything unless connected to a PC? I don't mind games as I only use a PC with it for graphics.
@@Josh-rn1em Yeah, Vive Pro works only with PC. You can't use it without it for anything.
@@lukasloucky3341 thanks man. I appreciate it
I’m picking up one soon just wondering what are some good games and I got a Rtx 3060
I have both vp2 and index. I think I still mostly play with index. Index has more vertical fov compared to vp2 also speakers and mic is way better. I think I need to test vp2 with some predefined equ profiles that should fix speaker problem. With vp2 even smaller resolutions look more nice because smaller SDE. So I usually use vp2 if I want some good looking VR and index if I also need good audio or I get more benefit for different fov shape.
i cant get rid of the feeling that fov only matters, if you have something you can compare it to. like if you only ever used the vp2, you would never see it as a downside?
Just recently ordered a Vive pro 2, looking forward to testing it out. Have a 3060ti so hopefully I have no issues. Gotta be better than my old PSVR anyway.
Same same I'm about to order it :D excited :D
@@JONminiminiME Had it a couple of days now. Pretty happy with it so far. Haven't tried too many games on it yet just Beat Saber and Skyrim. My psvr crapped out on me about a year ago, not that I used it all that much, the vr sickness was very apparent with psvr I found. It only took me a few hours to get my vr legs with the vive and I barely feel any discomfort at all when using for extended periods of time.
i have the same card. Did it work fine with you?
@michaelcarter6928 Hey mate i also got a 3060 ti and planning on getting a vive pro 2. Have you had any struggles with it or anything and do you think its worth buying?
Once people realize vr is not just for gaming. Just as an iPhone is not meant for gaming but for communication and viewing media the will quickly realize the benefit of having an oculus. It’s the future.
Why not both
@@kamdenpedelahore9510 It can be, just like a phone can be used for both.
Maybe the quest 3 will be good but the quest 2 sucks.
What else is it used for now?
I would not mind an oculus for work. Being able to view 6-7 spread sheets at a time or imagine a video editor being able to do their work on an oculus
You can fully accessorize the quest 2 to make it really comfortable with vr cover facepads, and prescription lenses to make images visually sharper.
Extend its playing time dramatically with a battery pack and add quality clip on speakers and use a pu leather padded halo design type headstrap.
Add kiwi design grip straps with easy battery access and halo ring protectors for your quest 2 controllers.
Buy a amvr silicone shell for extra headset protection for the 4 built in cameras.
Even add a headset mounted demister fan for lenses. In total I spent $850 usa to buy a 256 gb quest 2 and do these mods.Worth it.😁
BoboVR M2 Pro with magnetic detachable battery packs, kiwi grips and over ear HiFi headphones!
I don't know if u have ever used a PCVR HMD before but I have the Index & Quest 2 and I can say that the Index is just better rlly. I get why the Quest 2 is nice and all, but $850? If u have the PC just go w/ the Index or HP Reverb G2. (Reverb is lit $400 wtf that's insane). The idea of an All-in-One VR headset is more just people who don't have the PC, which is fine I understand. But the experience w/ PCVR is unmatched and will be probably forever.
@@bluestscrew7833 the hp reverb g2 just does not seem worth it given its very limited tracking, generic controllers, and how the only thing that appeals to me over pretty much any other modern headset is the speakers being the same as the Index, and as someone who has owned a Rift S, Quest 2, *2 Indexes* and a Vive Pro 2, the Index has the worst durability I've ever seen on any VR headset from the headset itself to the controllers and even the cable. if your link cable breaks with a quest 2 from very heavy and careless usage you spend $80 for another cable, if your Index cable even starts to break from literally just using it actively for less than a year you have to pay like $110 for a new tether, $5 for a new clip, and $115 for a new headstrap if the part that keeps the cable in place snapped off.
I agree that the Index is a better experience especially given it's like that out of the box, but for $150 LESS you get a headset that should last years given how indestructible the Q2 is with a negligibly worse experience once you're used to it rather than a $1000 headset that after under 1 year of active usage had a broken headstrap, a cable showing signs of failure, and after roughly 10 months of having the replacement Valve gave me the cable actually did fail, my headstrap was in even worse condition, both controllers are broken in some way with neither knowing when my thumb is on the joystick and both developing horrible drift... it's honestly much more worth it to just mod the quest 2 like this guy did and spend the extra $80 to get a link cable (or less for a third party one!) and still be $70 under for something that will last much, much longer
@@MidnightNachos Wow uh, didn't expect that much from that, but what if u used index controllers w/ base stations (using the HP Reverb)? Also I've never had any problems on the Index it depends on what games u play and the care u give for your headsets. Mine is still basically mint after 2 years because I always clean every part with isopropyl alcohol and so far no issues. I would also like to say that all electronics are different compared with games. Tbh high intensity games w/ a lot of movement is not really suited for PCVR rn because of that cable and weight. It just depends on what u do.
i have a 3060 laying around but still using my old 1080.....upgraded from vive to vive pro 2 and i'm LOVING it!
My only gripe as a vrchat player is HTCs very bad mic.
Now, i have fixed it somewhat with a popfilter, but compared to my steelseries headset (mic and speakers) i can clearly say that the VP2 have a bad mic compared to other headsets like the index which has a really good mic and not put straight infront but more to the side.
lol just buy quest 3 and use the best
I don't have VR yet and planning to get one, but I have a question. Why do VR controllers has a loop in it, what is the purpose?
It's for tracking.
Gawd Dam this is the best Camera quality I've seen on a smaller end channel. Well done video too btw.
How to say you find the guy attractive without saying you find the guy attractive :)
@@nekron75 he looks like Ryan reynolds
i think comparing these 2 headsets is quite unfair because the 2 are in 2 different playing field. i say compare the index with the vp2 or hp reverb 2 vs quest 2. mainly because a 300 headset vs a 1400 dollar setup not even counting the beefy ass computer you need to even run as well if you want to play wirlessly the adapter alone is more than the quest 2.
I think it's even funnier considering that it's relatively comparable when they're both in a class of their own
I disagree - It is very nice to see more advanced headsets compared to what is essentially everyone's first choice 'budget starter option'
bought a quest 2 a month ago and im hooked to vr so now looking for a high end experience, deciding between staying with the wireless experience of the quest or going for a vive pro 2 or valve index.
In same boat as you, got a quest now i'm addicted wanting to upgrade can't decide if to buy now or wait for the next big release
Similar but stay away from wired VR it's just not a good experience. I was an early buyer of the Vive and hated the wire with a vengeance due to constant tripping and tugging on the head and ended up selling it. Now with the Quest 2 despite the dull colours and loweish resolution it's just a great experience. Will never go back to any VR that's wired. VR should never have you tied to something it should be free movement.
@@Substance2020 with a cable mount to the ceiling it works good
@@tomsworkshop9974 I don't believe that. It would be slapping against the side of your head and arms. There's no way to avoid the immersion-breaking of a wire.
You will find it very hard to enjoy playing VR with a cable once you've been spoilt with wireless.
This video is very nice for VR enthusiasts like myself to see what to upgrade to after your Q2
I was running a hybrid base station / FBT / virtual desktop situation with my Quest 2 - and it has served me faithfully for almost 2000 hours.
Sadly disaster struck last night and for unknown reasons, the charging port and charging cable fried them selves. I am assuming a power surge despite surge protection. Anyway - old faithful is dead.
I was waiting for the Index 2 personally but now my paw has been forced! Thanks for the very informative video!
I hear everything... I mean, does the VP2 have a better screen? Yes. Does it have better audio? Yeah probably. But there's no denying the value the Quest 2 has. I have an OG Vive, and after using the Quest controllers, the Vive wands are now dead to me! I use them for Beat Saber from time to time(and I still, am always hitting that f'ing menu button), but that's it. The VP2 may be better in some ways.. but it sure as hell isn't $1,100 better wired, or $1,400 better for wireless! Just no way. I would love to see a true competitor!
This confirms it! I’m staying with my quest 2 until there’s another wireless vr head set that blows me away.
It's 100 times better then the quest 2 and I have 2 of the quest 2's
I have og vive and quest 2. And quest 2 is awesome!!! I love the vive but the portability, ease of use, and wireless makes quest 2 way better at times. The res bump on quest 2 is pointless as all the graphics are blurry, it's like smearing vaseline on your 4k oled TV, yeah its 4k but a smeared 4k. They should have kept the same quest 1 res or even lower like 1200p as the 1st rift and vive had so graphics are not a blurry mess
also the mic is garbage
its genuine 5k, the first of it's kind, the resolutions simply are not comparable as using a Vive pro 2 would be akin to putting on glasses for the first time.
I'm really interested in the vive pro 2 but the controllers... does anyone know of any other controllers (other than the valve index controllers) that are compatible???
Valve index are compatible controllers. Just double check with which base stations they work.
I just got a Quest 2. It seemed the best for the money.
Since u have it about a month now, how do you like it?
Looking to buy it as well
@@rune_lol i've had it for like a year and a half and it's still really good but my left controller ended up getting stick drift. Also the headset can get really uncomfortable after long play sessions but overall it's a really good headset
@@raelfert5268 ty for replying
How much of a downgrade is the wireless adapter for the Vive Pro2 ? Does it basically knock it down to Oculus 2 range ?
yes it does reduce your experience but if you play games with simplistic looks or smaller areas like gorilla tag beatsaber or super hot but on these games you usually find yourself bumping into your furniture
you forgot to mention that at all times you must be in view of base stations if using vive
i rather pay more for immersion than paying for separate gpu and cpu in standalone headset
i have powerfull pc so it dosent make sence to not use it on full potencial
Would u still recommend the quest 2?
absolutely
Please tell me the Vive Pro 2 can handle GTX 1660 Super? And a i7 6700? I'm leaving Facebook and Quests customer support suck. :(
I bought a used Quest 2 off eBay which broke within 2 weeks, and Meta customer service sent me an exchange replacement for free with no proof of purchase and no shipping fees. I couldn't actually believe they did that.
Vive pro 2 needs minimum gtx 1060 i think, vive pro 2 will handle it
Is the (HTC) better if im going to play for some hours?
The htc has a longer battery life (7hrs) so yes
@@super-tolt Not the headset itself, controllers
I have the vive pro 2 also,but the audio and mic is very bad... And the terrible glare on the lenses..
yeah im surprised he didnt mention glare, edge distortion, or sweet spot issues. I have vp, vp2, quest 2, and og vive
quest 2 is so much more clear than vp2 as far as lenses
@@PreauxGaming what is best vr device in your opition?
@@user-uz5bj7qo3q quest 2 is extremely impressive especially considering price
I have 2080ti. With this gpu, would you still buy VP2 or would you rather go for Valve index?
What are you filming with? Camera wise.
Sony a7s3 with a sigma 24-70 2.8
@@9to5toys Thanks man
Did you frames go down at all with the vive 2
Does anyone know how to take a "screen shot" with an HTC Vive Headset using Valve controllers?
Can a 3080 run the VIve Pro 2 at 5k res? On some systems, the 5k option is greyed out.
I just bought the full Vive Pro 2 kit for £500, Yes it's secondhand but it comes with a 5 YEAR WARRANTY
Tbh, the only reason the oculus hasn't erased vive is because of it being linked to facebook, which I overlooked till I got banned, I think it was because I put a fake first name and last name, and now I'm locked out of my oculus.
im looking to get a quest. I dont really like or use FB, so can you elaborate on getting locked out of your oculus?
@@Channel-iu6de you must use your real name when signing up other wise they will block you.
Wait what?? So you cant use your oculus anymore? Forever?
Don't make fake facebook accounts because its specifically against the ToS.
@@sockdip69 never share real information with fascistbook..... talpiot program
Please can I use VIVE Cosmos Elite Headset just for developing the vr apps ??
I am a vive pro owner and recently got the chance to spend some time with a quest 2 and it's kind of funny I'm very used to the vive controller's and I hated the quest controller's and seeing what some of the same titles looked like on the quest I could never have one for my main headset I guess I'm spoiled.
Well obviously lol if you are already a person with a gaming pc and a headset like the vive, obviously it’s gonna be a very different experience for you playing the quest 2. The quest 2 is an all in one, meaning it’s best for people who don’t want to have a gaming pc or an external console system to play vr, they wanna just be able to hop on, play a few games and pop off.
@@alechamilton1864 Yeah I have basically one of the higest spec gaming PCs you can get RN that being said I was impressed that the quest can run titles like zenith even at all and I look forward to the day when the inside out tracking matches what I get with my vive.
@@just1ofgod What are your specs?
@@ryanc9287 Ryzen 9 5900x evga ftw3 rtx3080 32gb 3600mhz ram 2 m.2 2 ssd on a msi x570 pro be quiet 1500w psu then I crammed it all into a fractal meshify2 which barely fit with the aio for the cpu.
@@just1ofgod very nice
Do I need base stations to sim race?
i loved the q2 but ended up returning mine unfortunatley to me (personally) the conneciton to the PC is pointless as its only a video stream, shocks me how many people a) dont mind this or worse b) dont know. Even with a top end wifi 6 router it was still very evident i was playing a video stream rather than the real thing. Tetherless is great but its just not worth the sacrifice to me but the biggest issue on both the q2 and the vive pro 2 is its LCD instead of OLED, dark games are awful on them, i wish theyd return to OLED to that of the OG Vive.
@にじか hey dude, imagine playing a game on your pc, the graphics are direct from your gpu to your monitor and you view through that monitor that’s what you get with a wired headset like the vive. The quest 2 only allows you to play it’s limited hardware standalone or via pc, when done through pc (even with a wire) it sends a stream of video instead like google stadia but instead of over the internet it’s over WiFi from your pc. Streaming video has flaws such as discolouration, buffering quality drops, artefacts and latency occasionally or if you move out of your wifi hotspot, haven’t got a great wifi 6 connection etc, it cann ruin the experience sometimes. Some people can’t tel the difference and others don’t mind it, it does the same wether it’s wired via usb or wireless.
Oddly enough I’ve just ordered another quest 2 today, they are great little headsets but depends what your used to, it has its pros and cons compared to a proper pc wired headset. One of my biggest niggles as well as the video streaming part the fact that it’s a lcd panel is annoying, unlike my vive which is oled, the quest 2 (and a lot of the newer pc headsets tbh) use led and aren’t great on really dark game scenes because they are washed out with greys due to poor blacks… horror games like affected, paranormal activity, visage are kind of ruined by this.
What it makes up for is wireless is great, the tracking on it was impressive, it has almost no screen door and is higher resolution than most top end PC headsets.
If your thinking about ordering one I’d say do it, you can always send it back if you don’t like it.
@にじか its like the difference between playing a game and watching gameplay on youtube.
@Watching RUclips Daily I know exactly what you mean I ended up buying another quest 2 and still have it. I love the wireless ness but things about the quest 2 are really annoying me lately.
1) I’ve setup my Wi-Fi 6 router perfectly with it but still struggle with playing pc games because it’s blatantly a video feed and no matter how hard I try it always suffers from latency issues the feeling isn’t on the same league as a proper pc wired headset which is so fluid and smooth in comparison I find I mostly use my q2 for headset only games using it’s low spec processing which once you’ve played of on a pc wired headset it quite a considerable drop back!
2) this is my biggest gripe - the casting is. Temperamental and almost pointless. Whenever I get someone playing it and they get stuck or are unsure what to do, unlike pc where you always have the monitor to guide them the cast feature is hit and miss to the point I don’t even bother nowadays giving any one external a total disconnect from that person playing vr - this isn’t mentioned nearly enough.
3) I was really happy when oculus put a brightness control on it as on minimum it really helps with that grey glow being an lcd but honestly it’s still basically pointless for any dark scened games. I’ve got it where my niece and nephew always ask to play something scary and they are fine playing scary games on the q2 they wouldn’t dare play on the vive and it’s obvious it come straight down to those poor blacks on the quest making a huge difference and feeling of immersion being destroyed due to the lcd panel.
I am really considering selling it tbh and getting a vive pro but I think I’m gonna struggle with the wire again now tbh
@Watching RUclips Daily I’ve always been curious about the pimax or what pc headset to get next if at all and think you’ve swayed me to getting a vive pro with the gear vr lens 🤔
@@MavenProductions247 I have quest 2 and I connect it via original link cable to the pc and I don't have any lag or quality drop when I play pc vr games. may be your cable is defected or you have defected headset. mine is perfect .I also tested the steam vr games and I don't have any problem with it. the lcd is a little let down for me. I wish they use oled on this headset. but overall considering the price the quality of lcd is really good and this is a really good headset.
Quest 2 is insane! I just got the vive pro 2 and using it further cements the fact that the quest 2 is a beast! With virtual desktop and a badass router you can run games on the quest 2 well beyond its native resolution and thanks to SSW its amazingly smooth. Granted it is not as sharp as the vive pro 2 but it is damn close and the performance difference is just crazy. Virtual desktop and Oculus have worked some magic into optimizing pc vr. Im quite upset with the performance on my vive pro 2 and I have a 3080ti. It astounds me that i can get the quest 2 to look this good wirelessly.
How's the FOV change? I have a Reverb G2 V2 and a quest 2 which both have around the same FOV, so I'm curious to know how game changing to FOV is.
@@TechMaestro01 basically turning a circle slightly into a rectangle. It's not mind blowing and you can't use the fov anyways because moving your eyes off center is a blurry mess. Pimax headsets have the wow fov but in the end you still have the same problem where you have to keep your eyes dead straight. Although on pimax you could wander your eyes ever so slightly without getting blurry.
Can my laptop run this? It has a AMD Ryzen 9 and a AMD Radeon RX 6800
very helpful!! I'm looking at spashing out on the Vive pro 2 after I finish this new PC build xD
Its an amazing headset. Im using the vive pro 2 since launch and it does need Some getting used to but when you get used to this headset its an outstanding experience. The FOV is really wide even wider than the index the resolution is stunning and the colours are great the refresh rate is also really nice.
@@shashumga6766 Did you get used to the FOV? Seeing as it’s wider than it is higher compared to other headsets like OG Vive, Quest 2 & Index etc
@@tigolbiddies5444 yes i did get used to it in about 2 days. The fov is really nice in my opinion
@@shashumga6766 Yeah. If you use a VRCover facial interface you get quite a bit more FOV I hear
@@tigolbiddies5444 thats true
Great review, the Quest2 will be a good entry point for me into the VR Scene, do I’d be picking one up, when I do come around to wanting one.
Just keep in mind that fb is trying to get ads into your gameplay experience.
Is it true that if you get banned on fb you cant use the ocullus quest 2 anymore?
and if you link the quest 2 to your fb account you cant resell the quest 2 later on if you don't like it?
please quest 2 owners help me out here :D
also are you not worried that fb probably use the cameras you have on the headset to record your room and look trough your room, items, etc?
Full control of privacy settings, and dont make Fake Facebook accounts and you'll be fine.
Im sorry but display port is miles better then the quest2 pcvr video image even with usbc. Quest 2 is great for standalone only
That's essentially what he said.
Would be good to compare it with HP Reverb G2.
Vive pro 2 beats it. G2 is good for simulators but vive pro 2 so much better with tracking and no heavy software of HP needed other than steam. Black levels of vive pro 2 were better too. It would be easy for me to justify g2 better because i bought it later but i really cannot.
Oculus quest 2 is like a literal quarter of the price. So I’ll just stick with that.
it is that cheap because you give your data to FB
@@alejandrorodriguez9088 your already being spyed on you have been for years. It wouldn’t be any different than already having an account.
Quest 2 is the future by the time im 40 or 50 we will be able to walk around wit these headets
thanks a lot, answered many of my questions.
you really talked down the great feature that it is a wired headset not wireless
Alright. it's decided i'm getting the VP2 i'm so excited
1:36 welp guess I can’t get this
i’ve heard that the best vr headset right now is the pimax, pimax 5k super is wayy better than the htc vive pro 2 the difference between the price isn’t that big but its definitely better and 100% worth it
Nice, hope I can check that one out!
How much is it & what’s its build quality like?
@@1anre pimax.com/product/vision-5k-super/ check it out
@@a56br68 thanks man. Will review it.
Not even close. The only Pimax that compares with the Vive Pro 2 is the Pimax 8KX. The 5K super is better than the Index and the Quest 2 however.
HTC is fukn high with that wireless adapter price. It cost more than a Quest 2 lmao
interesting comparison, but kinda in 2 playing fields when it comes to real world customers.
Quest 2 is like, $300.
while the Vive is around $3,000 minimum. You NEED a good PC. You don't have to go all out, but you'll need a solid $1,750-$2,000 PC built to be honest. Plus the $1,400 for the Vive.
so the vive is minimum 10 times the price of the quest 2. I personally hate the quest 2, but when comparing pricing.....it's like comparing a base model honda civic to a high trim model audi.
if you just want the driving experience then you'll get the civic since it will basically do the same thing as the audi, but obviously the audi is a "cooler" experience.
The "cooler" experience to me is always with the Quest 2. Everytime I put on the headset I'm amazed I'm getting 95% of what the PC tethered headset guys get for pennies in comparison.
The cable isn't really that big an issue unless you're really walking around a lot in room scale VR, which most people wouldn't do anyway because it isn't safe to do so unless you have a dedicated room.
Playing Super Hot in my living room and literaly rolling on the floor to avoid bullets with wireless Quest 2 is something sooooo incredible. And for the price its incredible. Quest 3, even if double priced will be the next choice no doubt.
I have vive 1 and quest 2...cable is a huge issue for many games that actually have you moving quick and arena fighting. I love the vive and play many many games around cable, but you begin to always play the game around the cable like half steps, 180 degree turns vs 360 etc. I didn't realize how much I had to do until I noticed I kept doing unnecessary moves on the quest 2, I then realized cables do make a huge down grade l, but the fidelity of pc VR is soooo much better
@@user-bj1mx2ip1c you could but the thing that hangs up on the top of the room that holds the cable so it doesn’t get in the way
The cable is definitely an issue! at the spending over a thousand dollars on the system I felt limiting with the cable!
@@nicolaygrndahl1998 drill a hole in my ceiling! To play a game!
VIVE set + Laptop: $3000
Quest 2: $300
Thor: *_You take the small one...._*
why would u buy a laptop for vr
@@yesyes-om1po Long story 'kinda' short, few years ago I switched from buying a PC to buying Laptop + External GPU (Razer Blade + Core with 1080Ti). Never buying a bulky PC again, or it's just me. 😁😁
you can plug a quest 2 in to a pc as well
yeah but its only video streamed not a direct video feed.
@@MavenProductions247 they have a direct link cable that plugs directly into your pc.
@@statejake5267 yeah im aware of that but it’s a usb data cable, not a video cable and when connecting via that cable it still sends a streamed video, not the same as a wired headset which sends the displays directly
Yeah but you will not get the same result
@@MavenProductions247 The streamed gameplay is pissing me off. And sometimes I have issues with it, like all of sudden getting 10 fps on the game were I usuall have 60-100 fps. (using RTX 3070ti). Do you think I should switch to the Vive Pro 2 ? I really hate vive pro controllers but maybe I'll buy knuckles ones one day..
I play a lot of beat saber, I found the tracking on the quest 2 very good, is the lighthouse tracking has good as the quest 2 ? Or better ? (With the 2.0 base stations)
The Vive Pro 2 wireless adapter doesnt reduce the resolution, it reduces the refresh rate from 120hz to 90hz.
False
The specs on the HTC website do not match the specs your saying.
EG FOV only 110 not 120
Refresh rate only 90 not 120
And also resolution is half
Not sure why but all the reviews are saying what you say yet the website does not.
Idk what website you got it from but he’s right, I checked the official website and it’s exactly what he’s saying
if price is too good to be true.. its probably cause you are the product.
i got vive pro 2 today just for beat saber thats all i play and cord doesn't borther me way to much only way u move around is on 360 songs but other then that your mainly standing and looking stright and nothing beats vr for me lol but cause i have 4 2.0 base staions al ready and 2 2.0 controllers you compare the tracking with beat saber from quest and vive pro 2 and quest is gabage for tracking u sort of need base stations and thats why i prefer vive and valve index dont recomend the vive cosmos or cosmos elite tho they arent good well this is my second vive cosmos elite headser and its blacking out after every 3 minutes so its unplayable so thats ethier headsets getting over heated i normally play for a good 2-3 hours on streams so but this headset today just the headset 1449 dollars lol for new zealand from pb tech and i naysy and she said its really good for beat saber her best experence so that alone made me want it casue that and blade and sorcery oftenly are really the only games i like for vr only other game that would be awesome for vr would be halo vr like just bring the halo 1 2 and 3 into vr omg being in halo i want that to happen before i die that would be a dream come true for me and blade and socery is the best star wars light saber vr feeling with mods you can get i reckon but do you play beat saber and would you recommend it plus for yt and stuff vive pro 2 is alot better for 4k beat saber videos lol
I'm astounded that you've bought a $1500 dollar headset just to play Beat Saber!? XD
@@sockdip69 and pavlov also bort valve index controllers for 725 usa dollars witch goes to 1107 for new zealand dollars off ebay worth every peny i love my index controllers
@@sockdip69 another vr game that i would love to arrive would be halo vr i would buy that on release i have had halo vr as a wishlist for a very long time don't no if they will do that cause then xbox couldn't play so thats why it probably wont happen unless xbox make a vr
Honestly ik people say the quest 2 sucks bit its my first and im just grateful Honestly to be able to experience it
No one says that.
Oculus quest 2 you can always buy lots of attachments and wires plus power banks.. it will cost you way less than HTC 2.. Geforce 3080 Rtx half life Alex the best vr I ever played
I got oculus quest 2 and I had HTC one.. I had fun with both of them but cost wise I would go for oculus quest 2😜👍
why you bought ANOTHER vr if you already had one?
Show show show 😍❤️
Its not you. That controller sucks
0 place on RUclips show or talk about vive pro 2 . It's impossible to find teturiol for it . I still have 0 idea how to use it. you are talking more about the quest 2 vs vive and talk it down more. you forgot to say if you want a better exp in vr you get pro 2 it sounds like vs cant belive or justify the more expensive one.
...MEH nothing about colors, nothing about sweet spot.... MEH
Apples and oranges
Quest sucks stop supporting them over a cable. Good vr will cost money.
You sound upset that you can get VR for just $300
@@TheEtbetween facebook ruined oculus. Dont give them a penny
It makes no sense to buy any other headset right now. The Quest 2 is 4 or 5 times cheaper and arguably better...Hello. :)
Vive Sucks
Bro you're so mad about the Vive Pro 2 that you came back to this video an entire month later to say it sucks again
@@SomeWeirdDudeIsBad Yes.
@@SomeWeirdDudeIsBad yeah wtf?! that dude is sad AF LMAO
HTC VIVE SUCKS!!!