Here's something you don't know about four-wheel pop-up campers. They are extremely fire resistant as long as the top is down. I had one sitting in my driveway standing on the steel stanchions and the top was closed. The Santa Barbara Jesusita fire came through and burned my house down and everything I owned. Except for the camper! When I came home my yard was a moon scape, and the fire department looked at me and said how in hell did your camper survive?!! It was phenomenal. It was in perfect condition and everything around it was reduced to ash. It was a wind driven fire so all of the embers simply blew underneath it and it with stood the heat. The only sad part of the story is that I lived in that damn thing for seven months while rebuilding my house! It got old. After I got done rebuilding my house my friends would ask me if I wanted to throw my camper on my truck and go camping. I said: "no thanks" 😂😂😂😂😂 I owned it for eight years and it served me really well. I sold it for a price far higher than I expected and it was gone in a matter of weeks.
Given the prices on these campers, these upgrades are LONG overdue. FWC has been far behind the competition for a while, even thought the prices suggested otherwise. I might actually consider buying a Hawk now that it's available with reasonably modern equipment. EDIT: Well, I just went to the website to build a Hawk slide-in and as I suspected these new options are absurdly overpriced, as are all of FWC's options. The Hawk is now a $60k camper with all of these options. No thanks!
@@jumboshrimps4498 There is no "better buy" because everything is overpriced these days, especially if you want something well built that will last. If my wages went up as much as prices do, I wouldn't be complaining, be we all know that's not happening for the vast majority of people.
@@dlg5485 I'm a government worker, my wages has been going up over the years, this is something I can definitely afford. In fact, all my coworkers make over 6-figures. Maybe people should stop letting the government take all their money.
Nice to see some new options. A couple suggestions I'd like to see: 1) a separating/composting toilet option; 2)an induction stovetop for those of us who max out the lithium/solar options, together with a diesel heater for those of us running a diesel truck tapped into the existing tank; would mean no more propane!
It is great to see that FWC is developing their products further, I would be interested in more details about the new heater. Which Truma model is installed, where is it fitted and where does the energy come from? Liquid gas or diesel? How is the noise level inside and outside? Have you thought about good air distribution, this is key to minimize the formation of condensation on the side walls.
@@jedibusiness789 These campers are no more "upscale" than most other well made popup brands on the market. These features aren't special, it's just what buyers expect any non budget camper to have. FWC is just getting too greedy.
Looks awesome. I wish you offered the water heater, furnace, cook top all powered by diesel so I can tap off my fuel tank. You should investigate Webasto as an option - no I do not work for them but I use them and they also heat the engine coolant when needed.
Finally, got caught up with the the times. A great unit, and well built. 2 things, first, I have a long bed full size. They’re all built for short beds. Second, 60k is a bit steep. Is because of California parts and labor cost or the over whelming popularity of the now overlanding movement?
Love my 2022 Grandby, and nice job on the upgrades guys. Just a little constructive criticism on the interior lift mechanism. The plane aluminum look is unappealing to the eye. It looks unfinished. Looking at it reminds me of the bare aluminum stock you can find next to the steel at Home Depot. When you buy a big screen TV wall mount mechanism it comes painted black, and even so most of it is hidden behind the TV. With your interior lift mechanism its out in the open, nice and shiny aluminum looking. At least paint it black or powder coat it. It would look way better and more aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. Its what I'd want anyways. See you on the trail! #Unfinished
unsolicited suggestions: warmer solid wood for counters like bamboo would have been huge, warmer 3700k led ceiling lights, insulated/incapsulated lower half (spray foamed like shower stalls/hot tubs are then painted?), interior wall tracks or hooks in key locations (think ikea level of modularity, hooks, mini shelves, baskets etc..), door window with built in blind vs dingy pull shade, removable foam floor covering vs carpet, thinner ply or abs interior doors that dont stick out/weigh as much, nicer badging or plastic/alum branding vs the crappy decals and fonts.... paid premium product with wonky decals, fwc made awning brackets and/or rotopack holders easy in house win...
Thank you for your ideas! The design process never ends. Several of your ideas are in the trial/beta stage. Lights, light hues (similar to mattress thickness) is very personal. Always a challenging decision for a producer to decide when to keep it simple and keep sku count down vs. increase options. Please keep your thoughts flowing as we consider all possibilities and appreciate everything new.
‘bout time. They finally stepped up to the 21st century after using the same old design for the last 30 years. Guess OEV and Supertramp were stealing some of their customers.
Thank you for your comments. Our goal is to build on what works (and lasts for decades). This is a key inflection point but we are not finished. More work for us to do for our customers and future customers! Please keep your thoughts coming our way!
Way to go! Great job innovating, and continuing to bring the people the things they want. Now, getting a fully loaded setup has more "value" than before.
Innovating…LMAO. They been using 30 year old technology and finally decided to catch up to the market. OEV and ST has been lapping them in the market so they were finally forced to update their ish.
Lots of competition, you guys should be innovating like this on a regular basis. That said, I'd like to see a back door option for the Project M so it's like the more expensive models
Thank you for your comments! This was the culmination of many FWC workers planning and working together over 8 months. A big moment for our staff. New product ideas have been flowing and this is a beginning!
We do have a cassette toilet and interior/exterior shower for our mid-size Fleet Model with Front Dinette floor plan! Only for mid size trucks with 6ft beds. fourwheelcampers.com/model/fleet-model-pop-up-truck-camper-leader-mid-size-trucks/
Cool, but this seems like a departure from what makes a 4wc what it is-a lightweight, simple, and rugged camper. If I wanted amenities I’d get something else. I want something light and durable that can be used on a half ton truck or smaller.
These are some solid upgrades and while they may not be necessary or even wanted by everyone, they’re great options to have available. I’m excited to see FWC making big strides like this and hope to see continued innovation moving forward. To those complaining about price - yeah, they’re not cheap. There are less expensive options on the market and if FWC doesn’t fit within your budget, look elsewhere. Hate seeing people who show up just to push negativity toward a brand. Do better.
Yes! For Mid Size Trucks it would be our "Swift" Model, for Full Size Trucks it would be the "Raven." Or you could go with the "Project M Topper." The best way to find what fits your truck is here - fourwheelcampers.com/truck-selector/
the new AT4X 1500 GMC Serria have those fancy tail gates with steps, can you keep the tailgate with the slide-in campers? Another question. with plans to daily the a tuck, how easy is the process to taking on and taking off the camper? thank you!
The tailgate will not close with our slide-in campers, but the GMC Sierra steps are fantastic for our Project M Topper model. Many of our customers use their trucks as a work truck/daily driver during the week, taking the camper on & off takes roughly 20-30 minutes with 1 person once you get the hang of it!
Not a very well done video for showing your new products. Move too fast and didn’t show enough. Hopefully you will do a better video to showcase your products.😢
Thanks for the feedback. This video was meant to quickly highlight each new feature but we will be doing more in depth videos on these new options in the near future!
Our manual lift has worked for most for over 50 years. Some older customers or those with back/shoulder problems have lead us to offer this as an option. It also works for people who want to store things on the roof such as Kayaks or a few Surfboards.
You guys have really upped your game. A few years ago I use to think your campers were over priced for something that hadn't changed significantly since the 80's.
Here's something you don't know about four-wheel pop-up campers. They are extremely fire resistant as long as the top is down. I had one sitting in my driveway standing on the steel stanchions and the top was closed. The Santa Barbara Jesusita fire came through and burned my house down and everything I owned. Except for the camper! When I came home my yard was a moon scape, and the fire department looked at me and said how in hell did your camper survive?!! It was phenomenal. It was in perfect condition and everything around it was reduced to ash. It was a wind driven fire so all of the embers simply blew underneath it and it with stood the heat. The only sad part of the story is that I lived in that damn thing for seven months while rebuilding my house! It got old. After I got done rebuilding my house my friends would ask me if I wanted to throw my camper on my truck and go camping. I said: "no thanks" 😂😂😂😂😂 I owned it for eight years and it served me really well. I sold it for a price far higher than I expected and it was gone in a matter of weeks.
Given the prices on these campers, these upgrades are LONG overdue. FWC has been far behind the competition for a while, even thought the prices suggested otherwise. I might actually consider buying a Hawk now that it's available with reasonably modern equipment.
EDIT: Well, I just went to the website to build a Hawk slide-in and as I suspected these new options are absurdly overpriced, as are all of FWC's options. The Hawk is now a $60k camper with all of these options. No thanks!
OMG That is crazy
The prices are crazy of everything anymore
So who do you suggest is a better buy?
@@jumboshrimps4498 There is no "better buy" because everything is overpriced these days, especially if you want something well built that will last. If my wages went up as much as prices do, I wouldn't be complaining, be we all know that's not happening for the vast majority of people.
@@dlg5485 I'm a government worker, my wages has been going up over the years, this is something I can definitely afford. In fact, all my coworkers make over 6-figures. Maybe people should stop letting the government take all their money.
oh man 5k for an AC? And you have to get other required items like 2 lithium batteries and roof raiser? That cost adds up!
ATC installed a 400 watt (eco setting) room unit on my Grandby for about 1k. Powered by a Honda 2000 on eco mode it runs 8 hours on .9 gallon of gas.
Nice to see some new options. A couple suggestions I'd like to see: 1) a separating/composting toilet option; 2)an induction stovetop for those of us who max out the lithium/solar options, together with a diesel heater for those of us running a diesel truck tapped into the existing tank; would mean no more propane!
It is great to see that FWC is developing their products further, I would be interested in more details about the new heater. Which Truma model is installed, where is it fitted and where does the energy come from? Liquid gas or diesel? How is the noise level inside and outside? Have you thought about good air distribution, this is key to minimize the formation of condensation on the side walls.
FWC steeped up and allowed me to change my order! Stand up company!!!👍
overpriced
FWC made the marketing decision to go upscale and getting away from the simplicity of the originals
"Overpriced" is an understatement. The prices on these campers, especially the options, are downright insulting.
@@jedibusiness789 These campers are no more "upscale" than most other well made popup brands on the market. These features aren't special, it's just what buyers expect any non budget camper to have. FWC is just getting too greedy.
Yeah, but at what cost?
Looks awesome. I wish you offered the water heater, furnace, cook top all powered by diesel so I can tap off my fuel tank. You should investigate Webasto as an option - no I do not work for them but I use them and they also heat the engine coolant when needed.
Finally, got caught up with the the times. A great unit, and well built. 2 things, first, I have a long bed full size. They’re all built for short beds. Second, 60k is a bit steep. Is because of California parts and labor cost or the over whelming popularity of the now overlanding movement?
Love my 2022 Grandby, and nice job on the upgrades guys. Just a little constructive criticism on the interior lift mechanism. The plane aluminum look is unappealing to the eye. It looks unfinished. Looking at it reminds me of the bare aluminum stock you can find next to the steel at Home Depot. When you buy a big screen TV wall mount mechanism it comes painted black, and even so most of it is hidden behind the TV. With your interior lift mechanism its out in the open, nice and shiny aluminum looking. At least paint it black or powder coat it. It would look way better and more aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. Its what I'd want anyways. See you on the trail! #Unfinished
Can the AC unit be added to an older model year hawk shell?
I'm curious as well!
The AC is not retrofittable to older campers. We redesigned the roof framing and wiring to be able to handle the AC on there.
@@FourWheelCampers Makes sense. Thanks for replying.
Can AC run off of the lithium batteries or definitely need shore power or generator? Thanks
Head on over to ATC. They’ll install a room unit on the rear for about 1k.
These are amazing upgrades!
Need some innovation on cost & pricing now
Considering most ppl have mid size trucks like a Tacoma you should really consider having underbed storage in a fleet model.
unsolicited suggestions: warmer solid wood for counters like bamboo would have been huge, warmer 3700k led ceiling lights, insulated/incapsulated lower half (spray foamed like shower stalls/hot tubs are then painted?), interior wall tracks or hooks in key locations (think ikea level of modularity, hooks, mini shelves, baskets etc..), door window with built in blind vs dingy pull shade, removable foam floor covering vs carpet, thinner ply or abs interior doors that dont stick out/weigh as much, nicer badging or plastic/alum branding vs the crappy decals and fonts.... paid premium product with wonky decals, fwc made awning brackets and/or rotopack holders easy in house win...
Thank you for your ideas! The design process never ends. Several of your ideas are in the trial/beta stage. Lights, light hues (similar to mattress thickness) is very personal. Always a challenging decision for a producer to decide when to keep it simple and keep sku count down vs. increase options. Please keep your thoughts flowing as we consider all possibilities and appreciate everything new.
going to be great to buy in 2025's recession
Great new products . Would love to see you guys make a new projects M for a six foot Ford Ranger
the ac unit, unreal. y’all are killing the game
Nice job!🫡
The upgrades are amazing… especially the AC and under-bed storage. I am looking into getting a Hawk series of my own in 2024.
Thanks for the feedback and we would love to get you in a camper next year!!
About time you recognized people live east and below the mason dixon line.
‘bout time. They finally stepped up to the 21st century after using the same old design for the last 30 years. Guess OEV and Supertramp were stealing some of their customers.
Thank you for your comments. Our goal is to build on what works (and lasts for decades). This is a key inflection point but we are not finished. More work for us to do for our customers and future customers! Please keep your thoughts coming our way!
Does the Hawk have an inside shower option?
Yes the front dinette Hawk has an interior hot shower and toilet option.
Way to go! Great job innovating, and continuing to bring the people the things they want. Now, getting a fully loaded setup has more "value" than before.
Thank you! That’s what it’s all about :)
Haha - this planted marketing comment is a bit obvious 😂😂
Thank you for your comments! The FWC team worked long and hard to create these changes. More to come!
Innovating…LMAO. They been using 30 year old technology and finally decided to catch up to the market. OEV and ST has been lapping them in the market so they were finally forced to update their ish.
@@Gazziza29 Clearly they’ve been making these things for a while… clearly they’ve “innovated” their previous setup with these changes.
Would have been nice to know about these upcoming upgrades in November when I ordered my camper.
check and see if you could do a change order. I don't know if it's possible but maybe?
Please reach out to your dealer/salesperson and we will work with them to include a new option in your camper.
@@FourWheelCampers Thank you!
Lots of competition, you guys should be innovating like this on a regular basis. That said, I'd like to see a back door option for the Project M so it's like the more expensive models
Thank you for your comments! This was the culmination of many FWC workers planning and working together over 8 months. A big moment for our staff. New product ideas have been flowing and this is a beginning!
I’m looking for a rear bumper for my tundra like the truck on the right side… any ideas folks? Spear tire and the box!!!
I believe this was made by Trail Ready Bumpers but not sure what they have for Tundra's. Hope this helps!
Merry Christmas!!
if you're really listening to your customers how come no option for a bathroom for the midsize market :(
We do have a cassette toilet and interior/exterior shower for our mid-size Fleet Model with Front Dinette floor plan! Only for mid size trucks with 6ft beds. fourwheelcampers.com/model/fleet-model-pop-up-truck-camper-leader-mid-size-trucks/
Cool, but this seems like a departure from what makes a 4wc what it is-a lightweight, simple, and rugged camper. If I wanted amenities I’d get something else. I want something light and durable that can be used on a half ton truck or smaller.
These are some solid upgrades and while they may not be necessary or even wanted by everyone, they’re great options to have available. I’m excited to see FWC making big strides like this and hope to see continued innovation moving forward.
To those complaining about price - yeah, they’re not cheap. There are less expensive options on the market and if FWC doesn’t fit within your budget, look elsewhere. Hate seeing people who show up just to push negativity toward a brand. Do better.
Thank you for this comment! We are excited to keep pushing the innovation.
I wish the swift model had better features :(
Nice video. I have concerns about lithium batteries catching fire. So I'm going to stick with the conventional kind. Peace.
I just purchased a project m topper I would like to know where is the best place to add sure power on my topper?
service@fourwh.com is happy to help!
Would you two guys like to go cramping!!
Presentation well done young ladys.
Does your product use a 5.5" pickup bed?
Yes! For Mid Size Trucks it would be our "Swift" Model, for Full Size Trucks it would be the "Raven." Or you could go with the "Project M Topper." The best way to find what fits your truck is here - fourwheelcampers.com/truck-selector/
Can you keep the truck tailgate on your truck with the Hawk camper?
On all of our slide-in campers the tailgate needs to be removed.
If only there was a cassette toilet and a place to shower. Even if it’s a small place like most other campers
We offer both a cassette toilet and interior & exterior shower in some models (Hawk Front Dinette, Grandby Front Dinette, Flatbeds & more!)
@@FourWheelCampers thank you for the response! But my comment was for the models that fit half ton and smaller trucks.
Weight weight up up not goo
Sooooooooooo over priced...
Slay!!!
I think these two ladies did a great job in front of the camera.
Why doesn't FWC have hard pop up like hiatus I think that is must
I would like to see a table mounted under the outside between the top of the cab of the truck and under the outside bed extension area
Nice!! Please, why no AC on the Project M?
the new AT4X 1500 GMC Serria have those fancy tail gates with steps, can you keep the tailgate with the slide-in campers?
Another question. with plans to daily the a tuck, how easy is the process to taking on and taking off the camper? thank you!
The tailgate will not close with our slide-in campers, but the GMC Sierra steps are fantastic for our Project M Topper model. Many of our customers use their trucks as a work truck/daily driver during the week, taking the camper on & off takes roughly 20-30 minutes with 1 person once you get the hang of it!
Just when I thought my camper was perfect...
Nice advancements. Congratulations to the entire Four Wheel crew.
I absolutely love these options, especially the full auto top lift.
When Can i get the actuator for my Project M? And will your distributor’s do the retrofit?
Our service team is happy to assist - service@fourwh.com
Very nice, but when will there be a grey tank on a Hawk?
is that a thetford toilet in the hawk??
Do you make one for a 1995 Bronco?
Can you put a 95lbs kayak on top?
Yes!
I look forward to the next Owners Rally to see these options in the wild.
See you in OR in June!
@FourWheelCampers - Bought our tickets last night!
Not a very well done video for showing your new products. Move too fast and didn’t show enough. Hopefully you will do a better video to showcase your products.😢
Thanks for the feedback. This video was meant to quickly highlight each new feature but we will be doing more in depth videos on these new options in the near future!
So the fact that they had to introduce power roof lift options makes me wonder if the manual lift really works very well?
Our manual lift has worked for most for over 50 years. Some older customers or those with back/shoulder problems have lead us to offer this as an option. It also works for people who want to store things on the roof such as Kayaks or a few Surfboards.
You guys have really upped your game. A few years ago I use to think your campers were over priced for something that hadn't changed significantly since the 80's.