"Redpill" - The Business of Exploiting Lonely men

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  • @KiraTV1
    @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +157

    Go to ground.news/kira to see through manipulative media bias and know where your news is coming from. Sign up through my link to get 30% unlimited access before October 15.

    • @Hygat
      @Hygat 8 месяцев назад +8

      Your ability to breakdown modern society accurately without false bias is amazing, please dont stop...

    • @jasthebaker
      @jasthebaker 8 месяцев назад

      I love ground! I've been using it for a long time now and it's a great app/website. I get nearly all my news through it

    • @Mickey_Valentine
      @Mickey_Valentine 8 месяцев назад +2

      Please do a deep dive on jordan peterson the nazzzzz cancer Kira

    • @passenger175
      @passenger175 8 месяцев назад +4

      Do they have Russia Today? Sorry, no. There is a difference between differing views and plain state propaganda

    • @Last_Victory
      @Last_Victory 8 месяцев назад

      I can disprove your whole thesis that red pill is wrong. Only 40% of men reproduce, but 80% of women reproduce. So clearly women are highly promiscuous, and only the top 40% of men get to pass on genetics.
      Plain and simple we are in hyper competition to succeed. Life for a man implies constant struggle to succeed. A man must build his worth, a woman is born with worth but it diminishes as they age.
      There is a 60% divorce rate for a reason, and who pays alimony and child support? That’s right the man!

  • @jeffhousen8968
    @jeffhousen8968 8 месяцев назад +1931

    Dating apps are more dangerous than you think.
    Picture this, you are dealing with a middle man in a deal where if the deal is a success there will not be another trade.
    Therefore the people behind the dating apps have a high interest in you not finding a match, yet spending money and time searching.
    This is incredibly evil

    • @littlejohnny41
      @littlejohnny41 7 месяцев назад +81

      Something that I sadly fell for multiple times. Nowadays I just accept loneliness instead. No point changing who I am

    • @RostovII
      @RostovII 7 месяцев назад +67

      @@littlejohnny41 I do believe that is the point of this video, that men should just sit down and accept whatever is going on in their lives as "natural".
      In my opinion this video is very biased and dishonest.

    • @glsssm9575
      @glsssm9575 7 месяцев назад +51

      Dating apps are also extremely skewed in favor of women. For every woman on dating apps there's 5-10 men. Meaning women have the power to be more picky, especially because men are so eager to throw themselves before a woman.
      In real life women still have room to be more picky. The only cities where the power is flipped in favor of men is Miami, New York & New Jersey, only because women vastly outnumber men there. However, even this is starting to turn against men's favor because a growing number of women are dropping out of dating altogether, for reasons that would take way too long to explain to a man.
      The best solution to this(RIGHT NOW) is to teach men to be happy in solitude. Women seem perfectly happy living alone and that is because they are taught to put their loving/nurturing energy EVERYWHERE. It's seen as normal for a woman to have a pet she uses as her love object. Men are taught not to prioritize their loving/nurturing instincts at all. I do think pet ownership would be very helpful for a lot of men.
      In the long term, I think completely restructuring society's ideals for families is necessary if we want to avoid extinction. A lot of men dont seem interest in fatherhood, as we can see from the fatherless child statistics. I think society would have to just accept that single motherhood would be the norm. Women will have to accept that a loving family with a husband isn't going to be accessible anymore. Men will have to accept that women will NEVER go back to marrying men en masse. As a woman lemme tell you, being single is becoming the new status symbol. Women are starting to pity women with male partners. We're never going back to the 1950s where women were rushing for marriage (which only happened bc so many men died/were disabled/were abusive after WWII, giving normal well adjusted men the opportunity to be choosy).

    • @JollyGiant19
      @JollyGiant19 7 месяцев назад +69

      @@RostovIIWrong. He very clearly says you should be engaging with people offline.

    • @JollyGiant19
      @JollyGiant19 7 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@glsssm9575This is also wrong. Look at that study OkCupid did years ago. Women on average also have poor results in online dating. Especially if they’re not white. Same for non-white men. It’s shit for everyone aside from the top 1% because it’s a meat market.
      Dating apps are terrible, do not use them!

  • @ddjennison
    @ddjennison 8 месяцев назад +2457

    I am in my late 40's, married with kids. I am so freaking thankful that I dated in the 90's and early 2000's before social media was a thing. If you wanted to meet women, you would go to a party or club. You had to muster up whatever confidence you could, but you also had a steady stream of opportunities for social self-correction. You were accountable for your behavior. You were not anonymous. You were forced to keep it real and challenge yourself. I feel so sorry for young guys in this era. So much working against them and their self image and so much exploitation of their insecurities with no real solutions available. :(

    • @mpo48
      @mpo48 8 месяцев назад

      you don't deserve any of that happiness when you don't give any of it away to other people, you say you feel sorry for people but what you should do is help people instead, hypocrite

    • @fleshworm
      @fleshworm 8 месяцев назад +176

      Parties, clubs and bars and all that follows still exist and meeting people like that still works.

    • @ida6950
      @ida6950 8 месяцев назад +220

      ​@@fleshwormThat's what I don't get. Social media isn't mandatory, it's a choice and I've made the decision to delete my social media a few years ago for my mental health (unless you wanna count YT). Despite being introverted and struggling with mental health I still go to bars, festivals, swing dancing and bouldering. It's all still out there!
      There's so much fun and exciting stuff in the world and I've met the absolute coolest people just by going out.

    • @bestieswithtesties
      @bestieswithtesties 8 месяцев назад +200

      I think the real problem with social media is that it allows for different groups of people to all find each other and form large communities like never before. In the past when someone was stupid everyone around them would tell them they're stupid and they'd self adjust. In today's world stupid people can just find other stupid people online and they all validate each other and cheer each other on. Same thing going on here just with lonely insecure males. Instead of being forced to self adjust and work on themselves they can just go online and find like minded people who tell them they're not the problem its women and everyone else who is the problem. They can feel better about themselves without having to put in any effort to change and improve.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI 8 месяцев назад +51

      You realize you still meet women this way, right? I just go up to girls in college and talk to them and next thing you know, she's my girlfriend. I'm young and grew up with social media, yet I have never made a social media account (one that links my real ID to the account). Social media absolutely is not required at all, and the fact I am more sociable in person means my odds of actually connecting and building a quick rapport are really high. People just blame their failures on social media instead of admitting they need to work on themselves first
      I've never had an issue meeting girls, but I'd never, EVER, want to mess with a girl that goes to clubs; shit is disgusting and they sleep with a new dude every week

  • @AcidGlow
    @AcidGlow 5 месяцев назад +298

    Sometimes the key to escape loneliness is to find a good friend you can count on. But it's not always that easy for everyone... ⏳

    • @Roshea
      @Roshea 5 месяцев назад +16

      You make more friends with greater integrity in the RP community than you would in the eternal anglo cvckfest that is this channel.

    • @NightinGal89
      @NightinGal89 5 месяцев назад +14

      It's harder to get a real friend than a romantic partner

    • @mathieuschanz181
      @mathieuschanz181 4 месяца назад

      @@Roshea That's the neat part. We aren't making friends on this channel. We make friends through Real Life. You should try this. To live outside the internet is much more fulfilling. Therefore, we aren't making friends on Hustlers University or other scams your idols sell to you.

    • @renaldsunset
      @renaldsunset 4 месяца назад +1

      @@NightinGal89💯

    • @MultiSciGeek
      @MultiSciGeek 4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed

  • @Marshall-Bit
    @Marshall-Bit 4 месяца назад +352

    one side is telling lonely men that they're monsters, and the others are scamming lonely depressed men, sucks being a sad depressed man

    • @johnsmith-ht3sy
      @johnsmith-ht3sy 4 месяца назад +1

      What he failed to address is the MSM media targets hatred towards straight white men.

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 4 месяца назад +42

      "just be happy bro"

    • @enricoa.9082
      @enricoa.9082 4 месяца назад +42

      There is good content out there, worth listening to. This dumb video is not it.

    • @iamanderson
      @iamanderson 4 месяца назад +11

      just take what's good, I've not spend a cent on the red pill gurus and probably not going to do it in the future, there are a lot of insightful and useful things that they predicated, is just a matter to use common sense, even this video criticizing all of them doesn't take into account the difference in impact that the red pill gurus make in comparison to platforms like ou ef, the damage is way much worse on one side of those. The "red pill gurus" are like the fruit, you don't eat all, just the useful part of it

    • @student40008
      @student40008 4 месяца назад

      @@enricoa.9082 Yeah lets just go back to worshipping Daddy Tate, amiright? The redpill is perfect and we can't critique them, right?
      Just admit you have no woman and r mad at the world

  • @SuperSaverPlays
    @SuperSaverPlays 7 месяцев назад +963

    I am not lonely. I am very much alone. But my life is so much better not having to deal with my ex wife. Having a woman doesn't not solve your loneliness problem. Learn to embrace it. Find a purpose and stay on course

    • @wladynoszhighlights5989
      @wladynoszhighlights5989 7 месяцев назад +86

      Thats exactly what Redpill should be about, a lot of people focus on their hobbies or building out their business to retire their parents instead of dating

    • @apollo-aries
      @apollo-aries 7 месяцев назад +29

      uhh.. yea ofcourse having a woman doesn't solve your loneliness duh. i mean come on man i don't have any friends like that either but if you depend on a woman "the love of your life" you just become more and more needy and she has to nurture you more.

    • @severussin
      @severussin 7 месяцев назад +21

      I agree but single parent homes are broken which makes a society broken so while I say yes to staying alone and yes to being comfortable with self, humans are social creatures and we are here to build societies. It starts with relationships, extends through family to the wider community. I thought this was common sense.

    • @wladynoszhighlights5989
      @wladynoszhighlights5989 7 месяцев назад +14

      Eventually I agree, but early Relationships will most likely not make children anyway. Its better to focus on being stable in life first in early adult years @@severussin

    • @severussin
      @severussin 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@wladynoszhighlights5989 I'm not in my 20s and most of my peers have children. Funnily enough they had children in their 20s and didn't have the appropriate parenting/content/society to guide them as per what you've just said.
      I went a different way and didn't go to Uni for example so no debt for me and I also chose to do what you've just said which is to defer all child rearing until I've set myself up but now I'm here, this is the trash scene I have to deal with... well I'll just enjoy my money then :D

  • @RipVanWinkleXX
    @RipVanWinkleXX 8 месяцев назад +933

    The best thing I ever did was me going to board game meetups. That helped me build more social skills.

    • @hyperteleXii
      @hyperteleXii 7 месяцев назад +63

      Card games too, even if it's Bridge with old ladies.

    • @Jonaelize
      @Jonaelize 7 месяцев назад +10

      Yes! There is often a board game meetup in a bigger city, they are great

    • @AaronSilver-Pell
      @AaronSilver-Pell 7 месяцев назад +1

      Boss

    • @DMHR100
      @DMHR100 7 месяцев назад +23

      Barely any women there.

    • @Pizza-Steve
      @Pizza-Steve 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@DMHR100 rip

  • @benjaminchartier6458
    @benjaminchartier6458 4 месяца назад +32

    One of the problems is that men and women both put on their significant other the burden of making them happy. Both men and women need to see the other are simply human beings,who have problems which they need the grace of God to deal with

  • @hkszerlahdgshezraj5219
    @hkszerlahdgshezraj5219 6 месяцев назад +94

    When I say I dislike Tate, many ppl respond with: "Ye, but he speaks the truth."
    Yes, but he's not saying anything new. Nothing he's ever said was something we hadn't heard before. It was just niche before. And he sort of made it mainstream. My problem is what he did and does with this information is dishonorable. Instead of really helping men, the way Stardusk, Barbarossa, Turd Flinging Monkey and many others did back in the day, he's leeching off of them, pretending to help them. Like a spineless weasel.

    • @jalepezo
      @jalepezo 4 месяца назад

      I agree, actions speak louder than words, like the can help men combat the loneliness epidemich, be better fathers, eat better and assert their rights, a podcast is nonsense

    • @lazercat7725
      @lazercat7725 4 месяца назад

      stardusk is the goat

    • @fortuneegbunike3728
      @fortuneegbunike3728 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jalepezohe sends money too help palestine and stray dogs

    • @Paivren
      @Paivren 4 месяца назад +2

      it's still good that views like his get more attention in the mainstream. we need more famous red-pillers.

    • @eliaskouakou7051
      @eliaskouakou7051 3 месяца назад +1

      "he is not saying anything new". Well shit. noone even from the origin is saying anything new as all was set in stone. It's the way the message is relayed that matter. People like to take comedian speech with a grain of salt because after they finish laughing they crying because of how realistic the message is. Same with Andrew.

  • @slimebuck
    @slimebuck 8 месяцев назад +243

    the most soul crushing thing I have faced as a lonely man (not lonely any more yay!) was that NO ONE CARES. No one would even pretend to care. Everyone I knew would listen to everyone elses complaints, and stories, and problems, but when ever I had one, I was told to stop being a burden on others and sharing my sad life

    • @MylezNevison
      @MylezNevison 8 месяцев назад +90

      That's what the video doesn't address, the truth that society doesn't care about men's issues unless they are benefiting from them... Character is revealed in how you treat the people who can do nothing for you. Our society is devoid of character because of how it treats men who they think they don't need... Until people come to terms with this truth, they will keep pointing the finger at the men because pointing it at themselves is too hard a pill to swallow.

    • @petertrueteller8043
      @petertrueteller8043 8 месяцев назад +15

      But this is problem of your own family. You cant blame outsiders. Anyway who would like to share his troubles with strangers? It is pretty weak, isnt it?

    • @Maarten8867
      @Maarten8867 7 месяцев назад +43

      @@petertrueteller8043 This is a problem of a society where men are expected to be stoic, and "strong" and showing weakness is frowned upon.

    • @severussin
      @severussin 7 месяцев назад

      Don't tell them your problems then. This is probably the most common issue amongst men = wanting the world to GIVE A FUCK. It doesn't and NEVER WILL. YES YOU ARE ALONE, NO ONE WILL SAVE YOU and the only solution is POWER.
      Gain power and fuck them. Them being everyone who doesn't actively support you. Fuck compassion and fuck their opinions. And never show them weakness or respond to their pleas for vulnerability. That is the only way you gain respect. Humility will leave you open to attack.
      If you need to talk, speak to a professional and do not expect them to solve your problem but they will allow you to get it off your chest if you really need to. If you have male friends, speak to them where you can be vulnerable and if you have family even better.
      If you have nothing then go to church and talk to the pastors etc, I am not religious but I know they are oriented to listening rather than ridiculing. But once again DO NOT GIVE STRANGERS THE LUXURY OF WITNESSING YOUR PAIN.
      THEY DO NOT WANT THE BLOOD SPLATTER FROM YOUR SELF-DELETION RUINING THEIR RUG. That's Life.

    • @jimmymaracas6442
      @jimmymaracas6442 7 месяцев назад +14

      @@MylezNevisonyou couldn’t be more correct brother, thanks for stating it better than I could.

  • @HasturYellowSign
    @HasturYellowSign 6 месяцев назад +541

    The red pill was simplified by Undead Chronic: 1. Fitness
    2. Social Skills
    3. Money
    4. Critical Thinking
    No money required to be spent on idiotic courses

    • @obsidianman4990
      @obsidianman4990 5 месяцев назад +78

      This is the part of the red pill that needs to be promoted. Not needing to buy coaching or courses that are full of shit.

    • @HasturYellowSign
      @HasturYellowSign 5 месяцев назад +41

      @@obsidianman4990 that’s why they’re called pickup roaches. They feed off the pain of others to make money. But most just want a secret technique and not be told to develop themselves.

    • @Thepapperman
      @Thepapperman 5 месяцев назад +11

      The red pill reminds me of forex gurus they sell you courses with 6 to 25 percent nothing more of how the market works forex and red pill I wasted my whole 20s fallowing them I'm a 34 year old single kinda confuse now I've been reading books that's none afialited with social mediabut fix my shit far as forex I'm self teaching now but what I've learned you'll never fix your flaws on social media log off RUclips is social media

    • @nobodyknowsforsure
      @nobodyknowsforsure 5 месяцев назад

      @@obsidianman4990 yeah but most people who watch that content take those aspects and they don't buy courses. This is why this assessment he is using is laughable. Also not every point in red pill is agreed but they keep harping on it. Red Pill for anyone who is rational is easily helpful. Case in point showing that single mothers are high risk factors is a redpill talking point - is that true or false? The 35 women thing depending on your morals is either acceptable or trash. In short, let's say you have a christian mindset. You could use the info about single mothers and ignore the 35 women thing. They never look at things with nuance and just paint everyone the same. Their all lonely men, they all hate women - typical low intellectual BS.

    • @EmilisEdits
      @EmilisEdits 5 месяцев назад +9

      I agree with Fitness, Social Skills, and Critical Thinking, only except for the Money part. It's very hard to learn just from outdated RUclips videos, AI is constantly being improved every day. You just can't make money with RUclips Gurus. You need people who can tell you the latest information about a business model you choose. That's why TheRealWorld is so Successful

  • @uliluu5885
    @uliluu5885 5 месяцев назад +59

    Red pill : You need to cheat on your girlfriend
    Red pill : why so many men are lonely? Don’t have sex ?

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  5 месяцев назад +53

      It isn't cheating in their mind because as a high value man, you are so amazing that you should be allowed to have as many women as you want. That's the level of brain rot these idiots are on.

    • @LadiboiJoy
      @LadiboiJoy 23 дня назад

      Nah that's something of a person nal option and opinions....I thought red pill meant men not being held hostage in marriage by typical western arrogant belligerent bitter combative delusional entitled manipulative feminist types.....that divorce men for cash and use court system as a weapon to destroy their peace .. future..seems like men don't want the drama of relationships marriage and prefer to live alone in peace quiet..like a monk focusing on health wealth..I think red pill is response to feminism.and I think it's a state of mind.like any group there may be a few crazy..but not like the feminist movement

    • @LadiboiJoy
      @LadiboiJoy 23 дня назад

      Not so sure....

    • @Aryaba
      @Aryaba 12 дней назад

      High-value men CAN cheat and women can't do anything about it.
      In FACT, women NATURALLY create Harems due to hypergamy. (The top 5-10% of men are having sex/"situationships" with 40-60% of the available women). These men don't need to compete as most of the women seek them out.
      Also your understanding of redpill is 100% wrong. It is a praxeology; a description of what is, based on REALITY, not a PRESCRIPTION. But you're probably not smart enough to understand this distinction.

    • @Aryaba
      @Aryaba 12 дней назад

      @@KiraTV1 You evaluation is low IQ. But you don't have the tools to do better.

  • @TootXB
    @TootXB 4 месяца назад

    I wasn't sure what to expect of this video but it was really good. Thanks for making it.

  • @jimmycumbest6877
    @jimmycumbest6877 8 месяцев назад +717

    As an adult man, it's easy to be angry at everything these days.
    Despite having a bachelor's degree in business, I've been struggling to find a job for months, and I've been having to work a soul-sucking job paying $13.50/hr just to survive. When I went to therapy for my first and only time, when I told him what I believe gave me anxiety, the therapist told me "I don't see what the big deal is."
    It would be so easy to have just one or two things that I could blame for all of my problems, and I believe that that is what a lot of these men falling for the manosphere are looking for.

    • @bullshitdepartment
      @bullshitdepartment 8 месяцев назад +49

      dont get a bachelors in business, simple as tbh.

    • @emmersksksksk
      @emmersksksksk 8 месяцев назад +124

      I’m so sorry your therapist told you that! Sounds like they might not be a great fit for you. Your feelings and problems are valid and you deserve a mental health professional who supports you, not undercuts you. Keep your head up king, you’re doing the best you can and I’m proud of you for that :)))

    • @shanegrayson7068
      @shanegrayson7068 8 месяцев назад +141

      This comment is so ironic because for the same amount of money you spent on the therapist to belittle you, you could've paid for someone in the manosphere to tell you that you are worth something.

    • @TheCatherineCC
      @TheCatherineCC 8 месяцев назад +121

      @@shanegrayson7068 That's the kind of dark humor shitposting we're here for.

    • @nobuneko2005
      @nobuneko2005 8 месяцев назад

      @@shanegrayson7068 Teenage and college aged males today are outright evil. I wish nothing but abject suffering upon them. As a female surrounded by red-pilled males it’s done nothing but destroy me psychologically. I accept now that being female makes me just an utter subh*m*n, and nothing will ever fucking change that. We are worthless and don’t deserve love. But most of all, you are all worthless and unworthy of love

  • @fileboy2002
    @fileboy2002 7 месяцев назад +775

    Probably the greatest insight I got from this video is the fact that people socialized mostly on social media can find it extremally difficult to function in the real world. The norms of social media behavior are horrible. Endless snark and sarcasm, baiting and bullying, crackpot conspiracy theories, etc. If this is all people know, they are definitely going to struggle with real, face-to-face interaction.

    • @LiveFreeOrDie2A
      @LiveFreeOrDie2A 7 месяцев назад +48

      You nailed it. I’d add on to that by including the proliferation of text message communication. There’s entire generations of people who have little to zero experience communicating with people in general let alone romantic interests. They instead communicate with screens.

    • @MatXrix
      @MatXrix 7 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, I would say it's not the app faults - it's our true nature that comes out. Answer yourself - if there were no consequences and nobody would knew, would you steal 10.000.000$ from someone's bank account? If you answer yes, then you know why our society is as it is - corrupt

    • @ClayLud
      @ClayLud 7 месяцев назад

      But don't people have jobs? Didn't they go to elementary and high school? Play sports? All of the things that every other kid in the world from every other generation had to do? Also, nobody forces young people onto social media. If I had kids, I wouldn't even buy them a phone. Make that kid camp in the forest and teach him to hunt. Basic things every kid I grew up with learned. @@LiveFreeOrDie2A

    • @antionephoenix
      @antionephoenix 6 месяцев назад +3

      If you haven't been married then divorced, have a kid, pay child support, and are a man then none of you can tell me anything. dating apps are just a small part of it.

    • @stonic5
      @stonic5 6 месяцев назад

      All i see online is people shilling the party line. Anyone on fb, reddit or twit that remotly speaks of any real conspiracy is banned off the platform. Only psyop conspiracy ran by the cia n stuff is allowed on social media now. Us conspiracy theorist have no place left on the internet to speak freely. The net died for us around 2016 just before the Qanon psyop was ran on the american people :(

  • @Moken_lan
    @Moken_lan 4 месяца назад +5

    Great video mate , great analysis of this whole thing , Keep it up

  • @studabakerb
    @studabakerb 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for making this.❤️

  • @TheDrunkenBard
    @TheDrunkenBard 8 месяцев назад +192

    “Language has created the word 'loneliness' to express the pain of being alone. And it has created the word 'solitude' to express the glory of being alone."
    -Paul Tillich

    • @Demon_Tiem
      @Demon_Tiem 8 месяцев назад +8

      As a boss from a game I once played said. "I am a being of Solitude."

    • @wymarsane7305
      @wymarsane7305 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Demon_TiemAnd a non-boss from said game: "I am a being of solitude. Cronch, crunch"

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados 8 месяцев назад +10

      I love my solitude. But not constantly.

    • @MylezNevison
      @MylezNevison 8 месяцев назад +8

      I think what men are saying by they "feel lonely" is that they feel invisible, uncared for and not understood by society which makes them feel alone in that experience... the loniless is a symptom, NOT the diagnosis.

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 7 месяцев назад +1

      Lot of lonely men would benefit from the realization they could appreciate the solitude. There is a huge societal pressure that you as a human kind of have 'failed' if you are alone and not in a romantic relationship. But this is just a social construct, that you 'ought to be' in a relationship at some point in your life. If you can get rid of that social pressure you are already half way to your salvation.
      That's a precious lesson I learned from the MGTOW community.

  • @philosoaper
    @philosoaper 8 месяцев назад +553

    I'm lonely, but apparently I'm not as gullible and stupid as I thought.

    • @carlycrays2831
      @carlycrays2831 8 месяцев назад +44

      Yeah, I really. I used to think I sucked but it turns out I'm sort of balanced

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados 8 месяцев назад +73

      All it takes is a bit of critical thinking, and you're already better than 50%

    • @infamoussnyc3761
      @infamoussnyc3761 8 месяцев назад +8

      Lonely or alone ?

    • @philosoaper
      @philosoaper 8 месяцев назад

      @@infamoussnyc3761 .. both

    • @nuttybar
      @nuttybar 7 месяцев назад +4

      Im not lonely bro but I think some of their takes are ok, but others are ludicrous

  • @Msk31.
    @Msk31. 4 месяца назад +91

    As a ex andrew tate fan this is very true. I joined his course too and when I thought of leaving it immediately the members started calling me things like loser or you will join the matrix. I still left it and I got 3 emails telling me to rejoin if I wanna be succesful. I was able to see that he was after my money and not me the whole time. Fact is that there sure are succesful people in his course but his promise is for you to get as great as he is which will never happen. There will never be a person who will be as rich as him in his stupid course. Outcluding that you cannot build contact with other people. Its pretty much jail.
    ANOTHER REALLY INPORTANT THING IS that andrew uses religion for cloud. If you look at the guy there isnt one religious thing about him and his money is the only thing he has thats it. He is pretty much the fakest muslim we have ever seen. While he was muslim he uploaded a video of chilling with girls in bikinis by his pool WHICH CLEARLY ISNT SMH YOU SHOW TO YOUR FANS WHO ARE MAYBE EVEN 13 YEARS OLD. And he brainwashes you you build an automatic mechanism to defend him even if you know what he is doing is wrong

    • @Msk31-bm3yr
      @Msk31-bm3yr 4 месяца назад +2

      didnt know he was a that big dog brother

    • @Msk31.
      @Msk31. 4 месяца назад +9

      @@Msk31-bm3yr Oh trust me I bet he as done worse stuff we havent seen yet

    • @sheikhtalhah91
      @sheikhtalhah91 4 месяца назад +8

      so true, although he claimed he convert to islam, he never followed the teachings of islam

    • @Damesanglante
      @Damesanglante 4 месяца назад

      All Gurus pretend to be religious.
      It's easy to understand why.
      Fairy tale believers are generally more gullible than agnostics and atheists.
      They make the perfect target.

    • @thuglaza4728
      @thuglaza4728 4 месяца назад

      @@sheikhtalhah91 Only the couple of things is to his benefit like the rest of the red-pillers.

  • @DoritosBurger
    @DoritosBurger 5 месяцев назад +42

    The problem with the Tate brothers is they make even successful people feel like failures or worthless.
    "If you’re not rich like me you’re pathetic"
    "You need to do more"
    The truth is no you don’t. You don’t need to do anything. If working towards becoming rich gives your life meaning and makes you happy then by all means go for it, but if you don’t succeed you shouldn’t feel like you failed because it’s a dangerous way of thinking.
    Putting yourself down to the point where you feel like you have no value is NEVER a good thing.
    Even if you have no money at all you still matter, you’re still a living breathing human that has a brain, can think and feel things, isn’t that amazing in itself?
    Don’t allow these people to dictate how you’re going to live your life, true freedom is having the choice to do whatever you want and be whatever you want, even if someone else may see that as inadequate or as "failure".
    Just do you.

    • @lucacrespi88
      @lucacrespi88 4 месяца назад +8

      The positive thing is, no successful people is watching the Tate brothers and taking their advice.

    • @gareth19771
      @gareth19771 2 месяца назад +1

      Oldest trick in the book. It comes down to despicable people selling a product based on a person's desires and insecurities. It's the influencers getting rich and attracting gold-diggers, not their lonely followers.

    • @Flypowerish
      @Flypowerish 29 дней назад +1

      But now the me is not enough. I go to the gym, I have a job, I eat well. I even study to learn more about nutrition. But man, what else? I asked friends out, but eventually no one really cares.

  • @Paragon231
    @Paragon231 7 месяцев назад +69

    "The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them."

  • @Ikyyassine
    @Ikyyassine 2 месяца назад

    What a great video thank you

  • @BenibomBugs
    @BenibomBugs 3 месяца назад +2

    Bro the music at the very start sounds like my alarm even though I know it's coming from the video it's giving me mad anxiety lmfao

  • @alisinchains
    @alisinchains 8 месяцев назад +360

    I have advice for anyone who is susceptible to these types of people: STOP RELYING ON STRANGERS SIPHONING MONEY FROM YOU TO BE THE DAD YOU NEVER HAD. You're not useless, you're not ugly. Learn introspection about things you can change to improve your life. Eat healthy, exercise regularly, and clean your living space. Get a dog, or just a pet. *And do not take your own self hatred out on others.* I sincerely mean this.
    Edit: I'm adding on another thing. Learn to cook. It's a good skill to have, you'll likely eat healthier because you know what you're eating, and it's an attractive trait! Food is a love language.
    There. Just saved y'all thousands of dollars. It's like the male equivalent of the self help crap middle aged women buy into.
    I knew someone who "self-deleted" despite following these kinds of people because he never got psychological help for his severe violent streak. But he would also complain about being lonely yet reject any woman who was interested. It was strange.

    • @aakashsingh1368
      @aakashsingh1368 8 месяцев назад +11

      Very well said

    • @lukedeshnuke7311
      @lukedeshnuke7311 8 месяцев назад +41

      I would also add "Join a club" .. there are so many interesting hobbies out there and people that share the same interests as you and clubs are a great way of socializing with them and finding new friends.

    • @stephanreiken9912
      @stephanreiken9912 8 месяцев назад

      Yea but you are telling this to people who've been taught that self hatred by the blue pill.

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI 8 месяцев назад +1

      There is nothing wrong with the message they provide, and 99% of these males don't give money. But the small percent that do are absolute losers
      Andrew Tate literally says the same things you say: "Eat healthy; exercise daily; clean your living space; be a better person and improve; reflect on your emotions and why you feel a certain way and if your response makes sense or is irrational."

    • @ZGGuesswho
      @ZGGuesswho 8 месяцев назад +10

      yeah, join rec league sports if you can, if you're not athletic join easier sports. it also provides navigable gym goals. much cheaper than these grifters and you will meet cool folks and will meet girls, just don't be fuckin weird.

  • @serieee123
    @serieee123 7 месяцев назад +625

    You know what's crazy? That most of these lonely men,which I used to be, think that getting a girlfriend will solve their issues,mental or otherwise.Spoiler alert, it doesn't.I got a gf , the situation is more or less the same...

    • @Alex-ms9em
      @Alex-ms9em 7 месяцев назад +141

      It’s really crazy how people think that. You can’t find happiness in someone, yes a person can add to your happiness for sure! But you have to find true happiness within yourself. I’ve seen so many of my guy friends believe this trope that if they only get a gf then they’ll be happy and “valid” as a male. It really makes me sad.

    • @IAMHERE486
      @IAMHERE486 7 месяцев назад +24

      @@rudeegruenberg9184It’s true that another person can’t truly make you happy.

    • @legionrip7484
      @legionrip7484 6 месяцев назад +27

      In my experience, the only way to solve those mental issues is to seek to improve oneself, obviously there are things you cant change like your appearance and height, but I've found in my relationships, that when I have gone out my way to either work on self improvement, my relationships with women would gradually improve with my self improvement too. Too often people neglect the self improvement and blame other people for it

    • @chalk1415
      @chalk1415 6 месяцев назад +23

      Honestly, it's friendship. Find yourself 3 good mates who you can share your problems with and will give you sympathy and feedback to help you improve. One day my mate randomly showed up to my house with a guitar and amp, showed me the basics for an hour and left. Never knew how important that was at the time but it set me on a path I still follow and it gave me a purpose to live. I now hope one day I can't create timeless masterpieces to inspire people like I was inspired by many bands I've listened to.

    • @bobbycrosby9765
      @bobbycrosby9765 6 месяцев назад +47

      I was going down a lonely spiral in my mid 20s. Getting a girlfriend did help. Emphasis on the friend though. We get along awesomely and we could sit and talk for hours at a time. I could talk to her about anything, more than even my good friends that I knew for much longer. Now we're married and have 3 kids.

  • @tillycomedy2194
    @tillycomedy2194 4 месяца назад

    fantastic documentary

  • @Mark-sr3dk
    @Mark-sr3dk 20 дней назад

    I've noticed all of this before. Thanks for showing this, in a video.

  • @TammoKorsai
    @TammoKorsai 8 месяцев назад +846

    I'm seriously inept at dating and lonely because of it, so I could have fallen into this manosphere trap if it wasn't for a good upbringing that gave me the skills to regard such things with scepticism rather than as a shortcut to success.

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 8 месяцев назад +54

      Imagine if a whole generation hadn't just shat out children and then blamed them for all the problems they themselves caused while ruining the entirety of the world singlehandedly only for that following generation to treat their kids just as badly as they were treated if not worse.

    • @t700e
      @t700e 8 месяцев назад +99

      @@ectothermicEvery generation does this, and every subsequent generation “recognizes” this but goes on to do the same. Just like what the vid said, it’s easier to blame outside forces rather than look at our own lives and try to improve our situation.
      Don’t fall into that same trap.

    • @MajimaEnterprises
      @MajimaEnterprises 8 месяцев назад +33

      Being a sceptic is the best thing you can be in today's world, but it's also the most isolating because most people live in echo chambers these days and I find it hard to hold a conversation with them due to this. Everything has been turned into an us vs them culture war issue. Most people don't have a nuanced view of the world at all. They spend way too much time on social media and reading the news and see everything in black and white as a result.

    • @TheKalimanMX
      @TheKalimanMX 8 месяцев назад +4

      seems like you had both parents in your household to protect you, too bad more and more youth are being raised in broken families now.

    • @jsgdk
      @jsgdk 8 месяцев назад +3

      There are no shortcuts, there are strategies and resources though. Alot of guys are stumbling in the dark and are an easy mark for scam artists.

  • @armaansyal
    @armaansyal 8 месяцев назад +585

    As a lonely man, I don't know how these people are made as attractive and as a 'saviour'. Not one person like this can bring you out of loneliness with a movement as the 'red pill.'

    • @baddiegaming758
      @baddiegaming758 8 месяцев назад +58

      I feel piss off for a lot of lonely man in my age start worshipping fake guru

    • @ryuno2097
      @ryuno2097 8 месяцев назад

      @@baddiegaming758 these fake gurus are the modern age version of religious cult leaders back in 60s/70s/80s/90s

    • @Random_user-sz7nk
      @Random_user-sz7nk 8 месяцев назад +95

      You're not alone brother. These dudes are poison

    • @xFODDERx
      @xFODDERx 8 месяцев назад

      I think it's that men are told if you are not a success then you're a failure, people like tate prey on this vulnerability especially in a digital age where our 24/7 is viewable to everyone.
      It's also why so many women go on OF.

    • @monalisa-bs4zs
      @monalisa-bs4zs 8 месяцев назад

      especially since there is access to many legit champion men with decades of experience in their fields. Joe Rogan, Huberman and many others linked to these 2 operate from the Modus operandi of hoping to bring real and helpful information to the masses for free.

  • @a.a.8515
    @a.a.8515 2 месяца назад

    Dang, what a good video!

  • @chaitai2533
    @chaitai2533 4 месяца назад

    Very interesting, didn't knew to mich about this field

  • @mikeforeal3216
    @mikeforeal3216 8 месяцев назад +286

    It’s so much easier to blame something other than myself…it’s what I’m dealing with now. Getting off fentanyl on day 28. Learning how to talk to people again, I’m learning how to talk to my FAMILY again. This frame of thought has destroyed me. But I’m tryin to do something about it💯

    • @OrgaNik_Music
      @OrgaNik_Music 8 месяцев назад +30

      Best of luck. It'll get better.

    • @tabby73
      @tabby73 8 месяцев назад +18

      That's awesome! All the best!

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +98

      Good luck dude, fight the good fight and ask for help when you need it, people do care and you are not weak for doing so

    • @shadeitplease7383
      @shadeitplease7383 8 месяцев назад +21

      @mikeforreal3216 hey man I just want to say I was addicted to heroin and meth for 12 years. I’m a few years sober now but do still smoke weed. It does get easier man I promise. Just hang in there

    • @iandevine3063
      @iandevine3063 8 месяцев назад +6

      One day at a time :)

  • @yyeezyy630
    @yyeezyy630 8 месяцев назад +31

    I uesta work at McDonald’s with this guy who was extremely nice, possibly had mental issues but he loved Andrew tate. He became a close with friend and was amazed by how muscular I was and thought it was awesome that I wrestled. I walk with a limp due to a injury I got in the military and he thought that was so bada** that he started copying my limp. Poor guy never had a strong male figure in his life and unfortunately I filled that role. Guess I’m better then Tate tho

    • @bzipoli
      @bzipoli 8 месяцев назад +4

      i also think thats part of the problem. not all of it, but it helps

    • @fuzzypanda1684
      @fuzzypanda1684 24 дня назад

      Anyone is better than Tate, and I mean no disrespect to you in saying that.

    • @yyeezyy630
      @yyeezyy630 24 дня назад

      @@fuzzypanda1684 yeah, tates human trash.

  • @AntonSilv
    @AntonSilv 6 месяцев назад +18

    So I do have one issue with this essay. It talks about how the Red Pill movement exploits male loneliness for profit, but seems to imply that there's some sort of problem with "avoiding therapy." But what is therapy other than exploiting peoples' grief for profit? For the first two decades of my life I've had therapy shoved down my throat. It was just repetitive sessions with a revolving door of people, giving blanket copy paste, common sense statements and advice... and when this impersonal process inevitably fails, you're given up on, referred to a psychiatrist and then medicated.
    And I suppose everything can work for somebody, but from what I see, most men that are "therapy avoidant," are not exactly that. They are men who tried therapy for years or decades, and eventually gave up on it when the whole system of psych work failed them. I find it weird to shame one group for "exploiting lonely people for profit" while propping up another industry that does it far worse.

    • @nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
      @nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 6 месяцев назад

      Careful in putting all therapists in the same box. Unless you want one therapist to abandon all shreds of compassion and give you an unmerciful humble pie that includes leaving you with nothing for a whole year

    • @AntonSilv
      @AntonSilv 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 it's pretty clear that this is a generalization and not putting 100% of anyone in the therapist category in a box. But when being told by therapy advocates that I just need to "find the right therapist" and I see the amount of time it takes to get in with just ONE therapist, and how many of them were not right for me, it gets to a point where I have to realize that "this isn't working" and it's time to try something else.

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 4 месяца назад

      Those pills are chemical lobotomy

    • @anthill1510
      @anthill1510 4 месяца назад +1

      I am sorry you had bad eperiences with therapy.
      That`s not the average experience though and it`s really helpful for most people. It`s not a grift, they just can`t offer their work without getting compensation. A good therapist has a plan how to help you that can be checked and evaluated with the question if it actually helped.
      I am sure that very few men in the red pill space have tried therapy for decades, simply because they are way too young for that. I am pretty sure most of them have never seen a therapist, ever.

    • @megaMagaManX8
      @megaMagaManX8 3 месяца назад

      therapy is just a secular replacement for confession. Shocker it's Jewish and doesn't work

  • @zachsewell1257
    @zachsewell1257 3 месяца назад +17

    Sneako having a bunch of pictures of people who he disagrees with reminds me of how a middleschooler might draw or tape pictures of classmates they hate in their diary, and it's just impossible to take him seriously.

  • @Eisfalken
    @Eisfalken 8 месяцев назад +177

    Let an old Gen Xer shed some light on this whole thing: this isn't new, not at all. It's the newest form of the decades-old self-help scam.
    Back in the 90s, it was the "get rich quick" scam. Then in the early 2000's, it was pick-up artists and house-flipping. And through all of it was the conspiracy theorists, who went from being regarding as crazy fringe cultist types to mainstream media figures in shockingly short order.
    See, that's the admirable part of what Tate has done here: he managed to find a way to pour all this mush-brained stuff into a blender, hit the highest speed button, and pour out this sludge of ideology and fantasy into a mold that (to the shock of none of us older guys) looks surprisingly like him.
    But any of us who looked closely at him knew he was a fraud from the start. I mean, the guy bought all those Bugatti's, guys, literally one of the worst cars on the globe in terms of repair/maintenance, the kind of car a complete idiot flush with new money buys because he doesn't know better. He talks trash about US and UK government, then ran straight to a country that is almost as bad as Russia or Italy for government corruption (not to mention organized crime). Like, I get it, a person should be skeptical about a lot of things, but holy cow this guy just makes bad decision after bad decision, and has the brass to actually tell people he can make them successful if they just listen to his "advice".
    Here, let me give all you men the better part of the advice Tate makes you pay for; I'll even give it for free. Eat healthier, not just fad diets. Get regular exercise. Be very stingy with your money in terms of spending it on frivolous things/people. Don't trust strangers claiming to act in your personal interests (yes, even and especially people like Andrew Tate). Keep honest people in your orbit; this may end up being very few people, but dishonest people inevitably become trouble for you. Treat folks with respect until they prove disrespectful. Bonus points because this advice actually helps both men AND women in life.
    As for the rest of Tate's demagoguery? It's just the same trash you can get for free listening to the radio or a podcast or whatever. The irony being that simply by monetizing his drivel, Tate is literally the exact same "enemy" he claims to oppose. He just says different stuff to make different people give him their wealth so he can tell them how bad everyone other than him is.
    Before the term "redpill", us Gen Xers had a similar saying about "don't drink the Kool-Aid". It applies here as much as it did when Jim Jones had that special party down in Jonestown...

    • @TheChrisLeone
      @TheChrisLeone 8 месяцев назад +25

      Not new, just different and worse. The only reason I say it is worse now is because of the availability of this content, this is a very new phenomenon to be able to access media the way we do

    • @Cander617
      @Cander617 8 месяцев назад

      Triggered much "gen xer" no gen xer ive ever met wrote such a long post of triggered bs trying to hate on someone. They just dont care cuz they got their own shit going on so whether u r or aren't go write something important and get off utube comments

    • @CyclistChris
      @CyclistChris 8 месяцев назад +17

      You've done it now. His army of losers will be coming in spouting their top g bullshit and asking what colour is your Bugatti...
      They won't read your very sound advice, or take accountability for them being losers.

    • @Cander617
      @Cander617 8 месяцев назад

      @@CyclistChris im saying nothing about no top g im not a little kid but I rather the kids listen to him then the crazy left's bs
      Given my choice Id rather them listen to Jordan Peterson, but the machine is going after him and I cant stand to see these attacks same with Russell Brand these attacks are them trying to bring opposing voices down and we need opposing voices

    • @Wastingsometimehere
      @Wastingsometimehere 8 месяцев назад +12

      I know what you mean. "Here we go again" and all that. These sharks feed off emotions like the old sharks fed off greed. It's all about exploiting desperation for personal gain.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 6 месяцев назад +154

    It’s almost poetic how people like Tate talk about “escaping the matrix” and then create a matrix of their own to trap people and milk them of their money.

    • @lunam33
      @lunam33 6 месяцев назад

      Hes an agent of deception and completed his mission the younger generation bought into his message, many of them will never know whats its like to have a healthy relationship, will never have children, will never have a family, and many women are checking out completely because they are not willing to tolerate these abusers, at this rate we will go back to nature, where most men never had access to woman to begin with. They did it to themselves. Women offered them an egalitarian option and they rejected it, this is the consequences.

    • @Musashi1611
      @Musashi1611 5 месяцев назад +19

      In the movie, they explained or hinted that the matrix had layers. And people who thought they were free had really just entered another matrix.

    • @Jeed92
      @Jeed92 5 месяцев назад +14

      He didnt get 1 euro from me, but I support 80% of what he says. And of that 80% that I agree with, theres almost nothing which is not common sense. People love him or hate him, I dont know why, hes just another human why would I love or hate him. He says weird stuff to polarize but he also says very normal stuff which is portrayed as if its some sort of maniac or delusional thing to say. Ill give one example: "Men today are weak and become like women". Many feminine Men will say no its not true, to naturally defend their own egos. its a perfectly normal defense mechanism. But that also means that Tate has instantly more enemies than friends, because weak men cannot accept that they are weak, else they would try to get strong and not belief in delusional crap like men are equal to women in strengh and capability. Its simply not true, but that at least 80% of people seem to understand. The number gets lower every day though.

    • @arete7884
      @arete7884 4 месяца назад +2

      Most of his fans dont realize he didnt get there by buying courses from someone like him but by selling courses to suckers, also his view on masculinity and what a man should be is no universal or meant as life path for other man, hes telling others how to live who dont know how to choose to be their own men. Also the muslim religion grift is hilarious hes definitely the opposite of religious life.

    • @nixen3141
      @nixen3141 4 месяца назад +15

      ​@@Jeed92Are we talking about the guy who was accused of human trafficking? I'd love to know what "weak" means. be poor? be disabled? be emotionally sensitive? Have social consciousness? It doesn't surprise me that the majority of those who follow are far-right or alt-right with that type of thinking. It's also curious when they say it's not mis0gynous, but it treats being "feminine" in a negative way as if it were a crime or a sin.

  • @Matsumoto77
    @Matsumoto77 5 месяцев назад +9

    I wasnt a red pill follower but I live in the circumstances that would drive anyone else that way, i was kind of lonely and lost unlike my brother, I think Im gonna talk to him some, see if he can help break me out of my shell and get out there

  • @FootballRob2010
    @FootballRob2010 11 дней назад

    This was a terrific video

  • @Thandi123
    @Thandi123 8 месяцев назад +107

    It just struck me, Tate based his entire aesthetic on Kane from Command and Conquer. His whole persona is literally RPing a videogame bad guy.

  • @seidious8798
    @seidious8798 7 месяцев назад +157

    Men can be handsome and still lonely. Men can be confident and still lonely. Men can be social and still lonely. It Is a problem in our society so stop reducing the gravity of what’s being said, especially if you can’t even sympathize. Sure you can change your own life with just a lil effort but that doesn’t mean that this is not a real issue. A man can stop doing drugs but that doesn’t mean it’s not an issue he’ll struggle w. So if you’ve “never had an issue w women but”, “I was born in, but”, “I don’t understand why”, just delete the comment, very ignorant and you’re likely helping no one. This is a much deeper problem societally and personally for many people… I mean there is statistics in the video for a reason.

    • @crystalracing4794
      @crystalracing4794 7 месяцев назад +13

      Interesting he never replied to this. This comment is on cue

    • @fuzzypanda1684
      @fuzzypanda1684 5 месяцев назад +29

      This. So many of these videos, and the general consensus, says that if a guy just puts in the work to become physically attractive, confident, charismatic, and social, he'll get results! But I'm living proof that that is absolutely not true.
      I was the guy who was lacking all of those, but decided to do something about it. After many years, I'm the poster boy for a guy who went from a skinny, insecure, beta male to a guy who's jacked, confident and outgoing...yet I still get nothing but rejection.
      At least before I knew WHY I was getting rejected. Now it's like...I did everything I was supposed to and then some. WTF is going on?

    • @josepmariasebastian8886
      @josepmariasebastian8886 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@fuzzypanda1684 Do not seek approval from others. Be jacked, confident and outgoing for yourself, because it's who you're comfortable as, not to decrease the chances of rejection.

    • @jones2277
      @jones2277 4 месяца назад +28

      the reality is everyone can be lonely. yes, even women. the difference is women usually try to find solutions or seek help. most men are too ashamed to seek help, or they turn toward destructive means.

    • @fuzzypanda1684
      @fuzzypanda1684 4 месяца назад

      @@jones2277 You're not wrong, because yes, anyone can feel lonely. But I disagree that women try to find solutions, whereas men don't.
      For some that's the case, but for many women, solving loneliness is as simple as opening Tinder and replying to any of the hundreds of messages in her inbox, or dressing up and going to the bar, waiting until she gets approached by a guy she likes.
      But for guys, when we feel lonely, we open our Tinder to see no new matches, no messages, and no replies. Then we dress up and go to the bar, walk around and talk to girls we're attracted to, only to get no real interest, then inevitably leave and go home alone once the bar closes for the 44th unsuccessful night in a row.
      Same condition, but wildly different levels of torment between the two sexes.

  • @johnprezioso270
    @johnprezioso270 3 месяца назад

    Too real. Thanks for talking about this.

  • @davidhendersonii221
    @davidhendersonii221 4 месяца назад +96

    The one thing I hate about Redpill criticism is that it's never followed up with a solution.
    Nor does it confront any of of the issues that the Redpill addresses.

    • @dailydrivennostalgia5316
      @dailydrivennostalgia5316 4 месяца назад

      Brother your problems are the result of capitalist alienation.

    • @sontodosnarcos
      @sontodosnarcos 4 месяца назад +8

      So true!

    • @86twin
      @86twin 3 месяца назад +13

      It makes more money to criticize a problem than to solve it.

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 3 месяца назад +4

      I think that is because the solution (if you call it that) is that Red Pill, for my taste, has swung into the extreme side of the polar opposite, and thus you have to moderate what is being said/claimed.
      I mean, they aren't per se wrong in what they say, they do correctly identify a bunch of problems its just that their solution goes too far into an extreme which creates all new problems on its own.
      I guess that is why critical thinking should be highlighted much more than it does AND be elevated to arc over both sides.

    • @urisevenson973
      @urisevenson973 3 месяца назад +21

      Although it's not a perfect solution, finding a better community or group of friends who genuinely want what's best for you and don't sell a toxic narrative. If you don't have that, go to therapy and figure out the root of your issues. Many redpillers tend to have issues with fear of abandonment, rejection, and women. So going in depth into healing those issues would help them in the long term.

  • @gaylord2726
    @gaylord2726 8 месяцев назад +54

    Easy to lead someone astray when nobody gives a fuck about how you feel.

    • @thetiredcynic
      @thetiredcynic 8 месяцев назад +1

      That’s the sad reality of men. It’s not usually women who call men out for being a loner or a virgin or whatever. It’s other men. As a result I it’s hard to find camaraderie in shared experiences because they end up ashamed to admit their challenges. What we need to normalize is men appreciating other men working on themselves, figuring out their lives, instead of laughing at them for being inexperienced in order to feel superior because you’re somehow better because you’ve penetrated a vagina. Maybe that thought is too feminine for some guys but to me it’s just common sense.

    • @SquarishLink
      @SquarishLink 7 месяцев назад +6

      exactly, when no one gives a flying fuck about you its really hard to give a fuck about them

    • @anthill1510
      @anthill1510 4 месяца назад +2

      If you can`t find friends right now who care about how you feel, than try having some sessions with a therapist. They are great to talk to, they care, and they can help you figure out ways to get more friends.

    • @kodjoblacka
      @kodjoblacka 4 месяца назад

      Exactly the root of the cause of all this.

    • @JR-lw3ms
      @JR-lw3ms 2 месяца назад

      Fix how you feel then!

  • @leonleeds534
    @leonleeds534 8 месяцев назад +689

    It is genuinely scarey when your 10 year old has friends that support and quote Andrew Tate. No idea if its them seeing his content or if it comes siblings or parent, either way its worrying and needs proper awareness or society is incubating a fairly extreme group. From what ive seen on Incel culture that fits in the same category.

    • @keccakec
      @keccakec 8 месяцев назад +76

      A huge problem bringing kids in particular in is that the algorithm pushes this content heavily on every platform I've seen it on. You can test this pretty easily. On a fresh RUclips account clicking only recommended stuff from a random vlog it does not take long to get your homepage full of damaging shit.

    • @phillyd2018
      @phillyd2018 8 месяцев назад +70

      how could they want to improve upon themselves! we can't have this!

    • @mpo48
      @mpo48 8 месяцев назад +31

      if you don't help people extreme groups will help them instead, this is your fault for not helping anyone

    • @DistinctiveBlend
      @DistinctiveBlend 8 месяцев назад +43

      @@mpo48 help? I think you mean use

    • @bobbythorton7693
      @bobbythorton7693 8 месяцев назад

      What is more scary, the people like you hanging around 10 year olds, and also people pushing kids to do a sex change.
      I'm no andrew tate fans but he is least of our problems compared to wokes or leftist.

  • @captainsergeant
    @captainsergeant 8 месяцев назад +234

    As I've got older the trend I noticed along the way is regardless of the generation, good luck getting people out of their house for any type of get together, party, or what have you. It is as if people flip a switch in their brain at some point and just start acting.. old.. or withdrawn. My wife and I just strike out on our own most of the time, as arranging any type of social event has turned into an exercise of herding cats.

    • @MajimaEnterprises
      @MajimaEnterprises 8 месяцев назад +47

      I know the feeling. I reconnected with an old friend and really wanted to meet up with him again, but all he did was make excuses to not meet up. I had a feeling this was going to happen before I decided to reach out to him because, like you said, it's what most people are like nowadays when you try to arrange to meet up with them, but it still annoyed me. I just want things to be like the old days when I had a decent sized friend group and we all met up (I say old days, but I'm only talking like 8 years ago here). Sometimes I used to bring different friends along with me that'd never met each other before, they'd get talking and then they'd become friends with each other. I miss those days. I honestly feel like part of the reason why people are so unwilling to meet up these days is because they're scared of getting into political arguments. Generally speaking, people weren't as political 8 years ago as they are today, so there wasn't as much tension when meeting new people. Identity politics have really divided people.

    • @CosplayZine
      @CosplayZine 8 месяцев назад +15

      People are starting to choose technology over people and actually experiencing things. They can justify this because they have things like facebook where they can scroll the timeline by themselves and pretend they're being social.

    • @alanheavey
      @alanheavey 8 месяцев назад

      True. I am part of the problem. Don't reply, like.
      Just think

    • @laoch5658
      @laoch5658 8 месяцев назад +13

      having a get together is going to cost you a few hundred quid, everything is overpriced and unsatisfying

    • @captainsergeant
      @captainsergeant 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@MajimaEnterprises The political observation is a fact. I've had good friends go hard left and hard right, and if you do not tow the line in your actions or speech, you offend them and things just go down the tubes. It reminds me of being around very, very religious people - you have to watch every word and action lest you offend them (which is very easy to do).

  • @imbatman8472
    @imbatman8472 4 месяца назад +33

    imagine being this blue pilled

    • @delltawnnorthri7459
      @delltawnnorthri7459 4 месяца назад +1

      "MuH aNti sEmItisM"

    • @Mohammed-lc8oi
      @Mohammed-lc8oi 4 месяца назад +4

      can't help those who don't want to be helped

    • @michaelmccoy9147
      @michaelmccoy9147 2 месяца назад +1

      Imagine Being A Lonely “Man”

    • @imbatman8472
      @imbatman8472 2 месяца назад +2

      @@michaelmccoy9147 a real man doesn't get lonely

    • @JR-lw3ms
      @JR-lw3ms 2 месяца назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @antman8845
    @antman8845 8 месяцев назад +123

    I have two young boys, 1 and 4, and i will be doing my best to keep them off social media, without being a tyrant of course. What you said about how young people exist online and then lack the skills to go out in the real world really resonates with me. Thanks mate, hope you're well.

    • @searsbear7965
      @searsbear7965 8 месяцев назад +10

      Explain to them why it’s terrible for you in a way they’ll understand and be interested in retaining the info you give them

    • @Mediados
      @Mediados 8 месяцев назад +7

      It's a real challenge to find a balance these days. To protect children from harmful manipulation, while not completely alienate them.

    • @Kurus-pq7xw
      @Kurus-pq7xw 8 месяцев назад +2

      If you really want to help them, keep them out of public school too.

    • @MylezNevison
      @MylezNevison 8 месяцев назад +14

      Sadly as long as your children have consistent negative experiences from the world towards them; solely based on them being male... it's going to be IMPOSSIBLE to keep them from the red pill.
      The red pill's entrance point is male trauma especially with regards to relationships with women and society's relationships with them as men. You can't tell me this is a great time to be male in the west... till that is addressed there will always be an opening for the manosphere to be attractive to your sons.

    • @mira12825
      @mira12825 8 месяцев назад

      @@MylezNevison Why is it a bad time for men in the west? Because they have less power than they had decades ago, yet still not less than women? Because women are no longer dependant on men to survive? Because women can actually afford to not just take the first man to throw themself at her?

  • @made13145
    @made13145 8 месяцев назад +145

    My advice to my fellow Men who suffers from this is quite simple. If you afraid/can't do all the advice that been mention like go to club, exercise, etc then start simple. Start from your own living space. Make it nice, clean, and fresh. After that, try go outside. No not to club or anything, just take out your trash or to convenience store. And if you met like your building security, try say "hello" "good morning" "how you doing" etc. Or if you were in convenience store, try say "Thank you" with smile after you done your purchase or find the employee and try to ask them where specific item is. Do it constantly and people would notice you. And you can go many different direction after that, be it club, gym, new hobby, or maybe finally your special someone.

    • @ronjatter
      @ronjatter 8 месяцев назад +15

      This is excellent advice

    • @civicboi96
      @civicboi96 8 месяцев назад +11

      I live in the city in CA. When you go outside, nobody is trying to meet you or have small talk bro. Every stranger has eyes forward, is looking at their phone, or looks at you like a deer in headlights for trying to interact with them. There are some cool people that will kinda talk to you, but the interaction never leads to anything long lasting. Eventually the coldness of strangers wears down on you so much that it chips away at you to keep trying to open up to a public that just see you as irrelevant.

    • @Spectacular769
      @Spectacular769 8 месяцев назад +14

      "How do you eat an elephant?"
      "One bite at a time."

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 8 месяцев назад +4

      "if you met like your building security, try say "hello" "good morning" "how you doing" etc. Or if you were in convenience store, try say "Thank you" with smile after you done your purchase or find the employee and try to ask them where specific item is. Do it constantly and people would notice you." This is the actual useful part of your advice, the rest is pretty irrelevant.

    • @elderscrolls8442
      @elderscrolls8442 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@civicboi96 "Eventually the coldness of strangers wears down on you so much that it chips away at you to keep trying to open up to a public that just see you as irrelevant." You miss 100% of the shots you dont take, determined perseverance and the courage to never be "worn out" even when your "worn down" is difficult but necessary to not miss as many meaningful moments as possible before yous 6feet under. Lifes a blip in time, hesitation shortens the already minuscule amount of moments wes alive for

  • @TwitterasX
    @TwitterasX 4 месяца назад

    Great job

  • @BlackAngusReviews
    @BlackAngusReviews 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great even headed video. Rollo has been a positive influence for me with his books and general assessment of the state of things, but he’s also a grifter especially noticed when he got with the frauds fresh and fit

  • @HerrMau
    @HerrMau 8 месяцев назад +219

    One of the best coverages I have seen handling this topic. Very objective & neutral, without shaming & blaming and all facts straight. Illuminating the root cause instead of just the symptons. Keep up the great work, your video will be shared!

    • @JamesSmith-qs4hx
      @JamesSmith-qs4hx 8 месяцев назад +2

      Does the film name the 👃behind this issue? I have not watched it yet so a reply would be appreciated🙏

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +25

      Thanks!

    • @raygorf735
      @raygorf735 8 месяцев назад

      It's incorrect that the red pill was a metaphor for transgender identity. That's just woke reinvention by one of the directors of the Matrix.
      The red pill is seeing life in all its harsh raw truth. In our real world that is the black pill. Incels misappropriated the term black pill but black pill is accepting life is mostly a scam, humans are exploitative, capitalism is corrupt etc.

    • @JamesSmith-qs4hx
      @JamesSmith-qs4hx 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KiraTV1 Based. Love it....

    • @shanegrayson7068
      @shanegrayson7068 8 месяцев назад +11

      This was anything BUT objective and neutral.

  • @Maverick2k
    @Maverick2k 8 месяцев назад +334

    Thank god someone finally makes a video about a ridiculously serious subject but nobody cares about. Dating apps are a prime example, absolutely extorting lonely men, for example having to pay £20 a week to see who ‘likes’ you or to put you in front of more potential matches 😂

    • @AFineWar
      @AFineWar 8 месяцев назад +47

      Is this a joke? There's hundreds of videos on this.

    • @godzillapoggers9416
      @godzillapoggers9416 8 месяцев назад +34

      Making videos about these things are just as profitable lmao

    • @TaintedStaff
      @TaintedStaff 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@godzillapoggers9416 Hows that copium? No way you just compared a industry to individual youtubers lmao

    • @Maverick2k
      @Maverick2k 8 месяцев назад +21

      @@AFineWar okay that might be true but I haven’t seen a SINGLE ONE since I started using RUclips in like 2008. I don’t actively search for “dating apps exploiting lonely men” in RUclips, you know?

    • @Maverick2k
      @Maverick2k 8 месяцев назад +25

      @@godzillapoggers9416 what are you on about? With these videos there’s two winners; the viewer and the content creator. We get entertainment and factual information, they get paid. Not sure how you’ve managed to compare exploitative industries with content creators but you do you.

  • @jhalenhanshaw5405
    @jhalenhanshaw5405 4 месяца назад +7

    I graduated in 2013 before any of this stuff existed. Incels werent a thing, just virgins or losers. I was considered one of them.
    On my own, through my negative experiences, I saw my own version of society. Blue pill and red pill ideologies were already in my mind before it was on RUclips.
    Refreshing to see that others see what I saw, but it’s also sad because it not a good path to be on.

  • @sheepco
    @sheepco 6 месяцев назад +5

    Id love to see you making .. long long form content. Yknow 45min+ docs. You have a way with words, and many of the things you say resonates. Primarily because you can explain, and/or feel with both sides, but still have a hard stance on what is "right".

  • @elijahwilliams7791
    @elijahwilliams7791 8 месяцев назад +43

    The few times Kira uses "disenfranchised", he means "disillusioned", very important distinction when discussing this topic.

    • @seamusgreenmurphy
      @seamusgreenmurphy 8 месяцев назад +2

      Wait actually curious now what is the difference? Are they not basically interchangeable? I do the same thing, help 😅

    • @cannack
      @cannack 8 месяцев назад +19

      @@seamusgreenmurphy don't you love the English language? Their, there, They`re.... lol
      disenfranchised = to deprive ones legal right to vote, to have a say, to make a stand, generally speaking but people use it differently.
      disillusioned = unhappy because of discovering the truth about something or someone that you liked or respected, AKA. ``debunked``

    • @seamusgreenmurphy
      @seamusgreenmurphy 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@cannack hehehe I think I'm one of the few who does love the English language but I'm a linguistic nerd so I enjoy the little nuances. I appreciate you explaining this friend, I'll be more cognizant of how I use them going forward. Doubt anybody around me has noticed tho

    • @beybladebaby
      @beybladebaby 8 месяцев назад +1

      Nah he talking about McDonald's

    • @mrosskne
      @mrosskne 8 месяцев назад

      @@seamusgreenmurphy If you're actually curious, why don't you look up the definitions?

  • @GeorgeStokes95
    @GeorgeStokes95 8 месяцев назад +83

    I remember being a very angry teenager and growing up with brothers who pre-dated the dawn of social media and online dating you couldn't help but pine for the "good old days". But the fact is happiness starts at home. Self reflection and an understanding of WHY you're unhappy takes a shed load of work and its easy to just say its because you're single or not getting any sex. People want to be better but feel like they don't know how. Hence these guys are so popular, they're giving (albeit awful) advice. A how to guide on stopping being sad. But there's no blanket catch all to make every man happy.

    • @ipodman1910
      @ipodman1910 6 месяцев назад +6

      Not all of these guys are giving bad advice. I would say most of them are giving good advice and nobody else is doing that for young men! This grifter who made that video and lied about manosphere almost completely is describing himself - he wants to make a buck on manosphere while pushing men under the bus!

    • @Volknsarr
      @Volknsarr 5 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah the good old days where the teachers beat their students, children got caoughing sirup for them to sleep who cant remember that! People really pretend literally everything was better even if its bullshit not everything was or is perfect, bc its life.

    • @Volknsarr
      @Volknsarr 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ipodman1910 Well thats why manosphere has nothing to do with mens rights but people do not see the difference this youtuber showed at 3:36 an article where they talking about the manosphere that supposed has something incommon.

    • @MultiSciGeek
      @MultiSciGeek 4 месяца назад +3

      No no, as much as self-improvement is important, the pre digital age argument has it's merit. It definitely is different. Back then you weren't a score in some algorithm, you were a whole story that someone had to read before making a decision... in the process, certain things can flourish that definitely can't over a phone. Even more so when you don't have as many options.

    • @basilhenry-eyo6522
      @basilhenry-eyo6522 4 месяца назад +1

      how are they awful advice though???

  • @GabrielleTollerson
    @GabrielleTollerson 2 месяца назад +5

    the business of exploiting men and absuing women*

  • @arnolenke
    @arnolenke 5 месяцев назад +9

    Sort Comments by "Newest First"
    Totally different to "Top Comments"

    • @iseeundeadpeople9
      @iseeundeadpeople9 5 месяцев назад

      Yes. The "newest first" crowd are losers. Like you.

  • @ShopFloorMonkey
    @ShopFloorMonkey 8 месяцев назад +169

    I had a degree of trepidation going into this video, but you navigated it very well.
    I'm really pleased that you did not simply dismiss male suffering, and note that it's not a new thing.
    A lot of men are, indeed, 'lost'. But there are precious few voices speaking in support of men in pain - mentally and emotionally. And they need a voice to cling to.
    The problem is, who else besides the 'Manosphere' is speaking for, or to, them?
    Edit : I made this comment halfway through the vid!

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +143

      Part of the issue is that people are drawn into things by the low hanging fruit. Would men listen to a 5 foot 8, slightly chubby dude who has mostly liberal views and isn't super rich even if what he says is actual great life advice? Not likely. People follow the red pill because the draw is so easy. Hot women, fast cars, expensive watches, boats, mansions, combat sports. It appeals to the base desires and is an easy, quick sell.
      I think there are plenty of people who would be willing to actually speak to these men, but would they listen without the bells and whistles that sell the message?

    • @ShopFloorMonkey
      @ShopFloorMonkey 8 месяцев назад +31

      @@KiraTV1 Very reasonable, and well reasoned, points.
      I think another problem is the stigma. There are people who have tried to give talks specifically for men, thereby setting themselves up to be healthy voices worthy of being heard, but they are shut down by the ideologues.
      Both sides have them, misogynists and misandrists if we stick to gender lines, and as you point out it only takes a few loud and driven people (for whatever reason) to kybosh things.
      I would like to think there are plenty of people who would be willing to speak. The question is how many of them are willing to put up with the 'slings and arrows' that come with it from the hate-filled extremists?
      Anyway, keep up the great work man! 😉👍

    • @efab2076
      @efab2076 8 месяцев назад +29

      Maybe the reality is the guy with the liberal view isn't dealing with mens issues but speaking to them and giving them solutions he would give women. But men aren't women. Several studies show men tend to lean more conservative, are more individualistic, and tend to be more action-based For example I play in a football team, so many guys have personal issues, but the way we tend to release tension is play a football match, talk about the game and afterwards we feel much better. That then leads to us talking about those personal issues. Same with guys I know that go to the gym. We also give each other solutions, criticise each other when we're being idiots and can be quite blunt. But as a society we are over focused on emotions feelings and talking...which are all good, but is that better for men or women. When you study the history of therapy, Freud created the talking therapy to cater to women but we men are told me just need to be more emotional, talk more...in the meantime we want to dismiss the ugly truth that maybe men need outlets to be themselves. I don't like Andrew Tate, but men need masculine figures, not all men but a lot of young men do. I see a gradual erosion of those ideals in society. I also see a lot of people who complain about young men, complain about Andrew tate, but dismiss male issues, and the ones that don't, have no idea how to connect with men or don't want to admit what men are. We are different to women that's just biology. Yes, we are similar in a lot of ways, but the differences matter. Hate Andrew tate, but when he says society dosn't care about your feelings, men understand that, when he says go to the gym, get rich and women will like you, men understand that. Again I don't like Andrew tate but there's so much he says that resonates with men, and if given a choice between the liberal guy telling them to be themselves and be more emotional or tate saying stop crying because no one cares...reality hits hard.@@KiraTV1

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +27

      For sure, I 100% agree with that and I've seen even people I'd consider to be impeccably ethical and rational have the same issue just because people won't engage with what they're actually saying and it's seen as inherently toxic or "problematic" to speak to men as a whole. It cuts both ways and that's just how it will remain. Anyone who gets in the way of those sides is usually in for a bad time.

    • @FranNyan
      @FranNyan 8 месяцев назад +18

      The voices of those who are trying to speak to those men are drowned out by louder voices who have things to gain, and those who blindly follow a toxic mindset of what men should and should not be. There is someone willing to be a friend for almost any man, but said men need to be able to see those people and not be blinded by the louder, flashy snake oil salesmen (and well meaning idiots) who promise them an easy way to get what they want without the scary side that is actually connecting with other human beings.
      Right now, society is deeply fractured and it's hard to find people out in the "real" world to get to know. Almost everybody's hurting and no one wants to let anyone else know out of fear of judgement and more hurt. Everyone shows their best sides and builds an illusion for others to see, leading to a functional arms race that leads to everyone feeling worthless because they can't help but compare themselves to these illusions that they see around them.
      There are no easy answers. There are no quick fixes. There is not a single person or group that you can find that will help someone figure out how to live in this chaos we call life, but cult leads and grifters will always tell people there are.

  • @BlackNeph
    @BlackNeph 8 месяцев назад +80

    I was surprised when you didn't mention the VTuber industry. Some of the biggest spenders in the industry has becoming so obsessive to the point where they take an offend whenether their favorite streamers collabed/interacted with the opposite gender outside of their chats.

    • @fedyx1544
      @fedyx1544 8 месяцев назад +53

      VTuber industry is its own thing though, and it's an offshoot of asian idol culture. The crazy fans are common in the idol business regardless of gender, it's not something related to "redpill" or "manosphere" bullcrap, but rather to parasocial relationship in general.

    • @stephanreiken9912
      @stephanreiken9912 8 месяцев назад +23

      That's idol culture, the vtuber industry just imported idol culture into it.

    • @fedyx1544
      @fedyx1544 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@spinlock1785 they are not related because it's not only targeting men. Yeah most vtuber fans happen to be men but unlike the manosphere there are also plenty of vtubers and idols who try to cater to women.

    • @ncs9753
      @ncs9753 8 месяцев назад +11

      That's just parasocial relationship. Everyone spending money on youtube or twitch or whatever streamer is the same, basically got exploited for money when they don't even need to spend those money. If you ask me, someone spending 50 bucks simping on vtuber or twitch thots is only about as dumb as someone spending 50 bucks on pewdiepie or video game streamers. The more you spent the worse you are really, doesn't matter who you give the money to. Like why are you giving money to strangers... unless you're already filthy rich and successful yourself and see that as dirt cheap donation, but it seems to me that it's mostly young people who haven't even establish themselves. The real successful people are the people who are the ones who make streaming into a living because there are so many of these gullible viewers...

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@stephanreiken9912Exactly. Parasocial relationships have been problematic since the beginning of mainstream broadcast media. The Internet made it a lot worse, or course, but deranged fans are nothing new. Back in the late ‘80s actress Rebecca Schaefer was killed in her home by an obsessed fan. President Ronald Reagan was shot & nearly killed by John Hinkley, a seriously deranged young man who was trying to impress Jodie Foster. (Turned out she wasn’t even into dudes!)

  • @sirmontyrock
    @sirmontyrock 3 месяца назад

    This was pretty good.

  • @silasspeaks3301
    @silasspeaks3301 4 месяца назад

    Good video.

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez 8 месяцев назад +151

    Chronic loneliness is, quite ironically, one of the best-understood and least-understood conditions that plagues the human condition.
    One of the biggest problems is that people who have not experienced it don't truly understand it. It's very similar to, for example, extreme stress: You year the negative physical effects that stress can cause, but you don't really understand it, empathize with it, until you experience it yourself. If your entire life is free of prolonged extreme (eg. job-related) stress, the various symptoms that people talk about may feel distant, abstract and, perhaps to some level, even hard to imagine and even believe. Because of this, people who have never suffered from prolonged extreme stress may easily dismiss it or not take it as seriously as it should.
    The effects of chronic loneliness is even worse in this respect. At least nobody derides, mocks, ridicules, belittles nor verbally attack the concept nor people who suffer from stress. Other people might not fully understand it deep down, but at least they aren't outright hostile and aggressive about it. It's quite a different with chronic loneliness.
    Another big problem is that most people either know or easily believe the physical symptoms that prolonged stress can cause, but they may be completely ignorant of the very real symptoms that chronic loneliness may cause. How many people believe that men being lonely merely means that they want sex, and that's it? Or even in the better-case scenarios, how many people believe that lonely men would just like some life companion, but them not getting one is a somewhat minor inconvenience for them (as in, like, they may get bored and lonely and perhaps a bit sad, but that's about it)?
    Yet, study after study shows that prolonged chronic loneliness, as well as touch deprivation, does cause many serious symptoms. Among others, it can cause depression, stress, elevated blood pressure, weight gain, cardiovascular diseases, and longer recovery times from diseases (and, in fact, higher mortality rates from diseases because of complications in recovery).
    Touch deprivation, in particular, is one of these things that modern medicine understands, but the wider general public does not. Most chronically lonely men do not seek a romantic companion merely for sex. They seek one for companionship and physic touch. Just being able to hug and touch, and be hugged and touched, on a regular daily basis, has very real health benefits. It reduces stress, it reduces blood pressure, and has all kinds of psychological and physiological health benefits.
    It's no wonder that chronically lonely men desperately seek a way out of the slump. Not many people are willing to help them, and even from those who would be willing don't know how to. The men themselves see no solution, and others can't see any solution either. No wonder some men may be drawn to those people who are seemingly offering a solution.

    • @user-nv5fu9nk4p
      @user-nv5fu9nk4p 7 месяцев назад +10

      beautifully said

    • @jordannipper4890
      @jordannipper4890 7 месяцев назад +8

      as a person in therapy, physical contact has been very hard to get used to. because for 20+ years the only physical contact i knew was enemies hurting me, and me hurting other enemies. hugging someone brings me to tears almost every time, people patting me on the back in congratulation or poking me (with friendly intent) makes my adrenaline spike, and anxiety soar. More than 1 person touching me at all like say a group of people hyping me up for my ability to move heavy things really makes me feel like im backed into a corner and staring at a loaded canon.

    • @WarpRulez
      @WarpRulez 7 месяцев назад

      @@jordannipper4890
      For touch to be good and beneficial, you of course need to be very comfortable with the person who is touching you and you are touching back. For an adult most often this will be a romantic partner who you really can relax with while snuggling (eg. when watching a movie or whatever). Touching needs to be relaxing, not anxiety inducing. When the other person is not a romantic partner, it can be more difficult for it to be relaxing.
      For someone who has been touch-deprived for decades it can take a lot of getting-used-to.

    • @ouwebrood497
      @ouwebrood497 7 месяцев назад +11

      Physical touch is very important.
      First of all, I think if you are alone you should get a pet (or 2). You can cuddle with them. For me this appeared to be quite a good choice.
      Second, sex work should be normalized. It is OK to visit a sex worker if it seems impossible to find someone to have your sexual and physical touch with. Lot of sex workers also like it to cuddle and kiss, so it's more than 'just sex'. I know it really benefits me.

    • @sebp9882
      @sebp9882 7 месяцев назад +15

      Not to mention the gaslighting and victim-blaming. Just because there is no one factor for loneliness, the haves will always blame the have-nots further cementing the problem and lack of understanding

  • @tribesvanguard7007
    @tribesvanguard7007 8 месяцев назад +11

    NEVER FORGET. ANYONE WHO SELLS HOPE ISNT YOUR FRIEND OR A GOOD PERSON.

  • @JV-ki2yj
    @JV-ki2yj 4 месяца назад +1

    Interesting... These mentioned channels and representants are probably the most earning and watched of the Red pill, I definitely bumped on most of them. Those are also the most useless and unhelpful examples i quickly disregarded (maybe check sometimes). But there are others when put together has helped me understand better myself/women/relationships/society/world... But yeah, a lot of garbage to filter. Its like picking bread crumbs, opinions from many different perspectives and experience from both men and women. Quite a journey (7-8 months so far). Feeling like the circle is closing. Definitely more better than bitter :)

  • @zmcfadgen
    @zmcfadgen 5 месяцев назад

    Great job on this video presentation! This is a very sad situation going on today.

  • @killerecho
    @killerecho 8 месяцев назад +180

    There was a version of this in the 2000s called the PUA/Pick-up Artist community. Just like most things, they range from boilerplate common sense lifestyle advice that could be found anywhere, all the way to thinly veiled hate groups, which then cross over to other things like politics and conspiracies, because of course they did. The problems are worse now but the allure has always been the same - they offer hope to the desperate. In that way, they're not unlike religious proselytizers or MLMs. They promise all these things that ironically you're helping the top grifters attain but will never reach yourself, by design.

    • @PepeCoinMania
      @PepeCoinMania 8 месяцев назад +12

      The most cringe people I ever seen 😂these dudes were very cringe

    • @JamesSmith-qs4hx
      @JamesSmith-qs4hx 8 месяцев назад +12

      People need to take a step back and get an understanding of ✡ media.

    • @t700e
      @t700e 8 месяцев назад +26

      @@JamesSmith-qs4hxYou should probably stop eating crayons bro.

    • @JamesSmith-qs4hx
      @JamesSmith-qs4hx 8 месяцев назад

      @@t700e You should probably watch Europa The Last Battle 👀.... bro.

    • @lowpinglag
      @lowpinglag 8 месяцев назад +18

      I remember the PUA thing back then. And it operated the same as now. "I'm successful, you can be too, just buy my book"

  • @JakkHorwikk
    @JakkHorwikk 8 месяцев назад +24

    Confidence men have always existed and always will exist. If you aren't suspicious of your own motives, you'll get taken for a ride every time.
    Honestly, it's very sad, harm reduction is something almost abhorred in today's mindsets, these victims are just looking for an easier, softer way of existing within themselves. It's a shame, but, in the same breath, if you behave like this, buy into this, people will dispise you not for the nature of fellowship, but for the vitriol that comes with it. Compassion for me ends when you start being proud of looking down on others. Disgusting.

    • @Gamez4eveR
      @Gamez4eveR 8 месяцев назад +7

      It's always people who are afraid of challenging their own beliefs that become victims of these conmen.
      The irony has such gravity that even Jupiter would be impressed

    • @Darth_Bateman
      @Darth_Bateman 6 месяцев назад

      @@Gamez4eveR I have a question for you : Are you a left-winger?

    • @dumkaisachakal6341
      @dumkaisachakal6341 5 месяцев назад

      Well this is what the people who pushed this on society wanted, men to not think in harm reduction, and females to up the ante on the exploitation of men. Once men knew that if i give you money or something you need i have to get something i want from you, today men are reduced to working jobs they hate to log in and give some random female that doesn't do or deserve nothing, his hard earned money without getting nothing in return - he is watching her strip or send pictures of her or some other females body parts - and it is not special to him she is mass sending them without having to exchange fluids with the man.
      When i talk to old men about this nonsense they say - when i was young i went to professional females and we bargained for the price of their services, if she said i give BJ's for 50 he would want her to lower it to 20 and if she refused he walked away, to the next one. Now you give your money for nothing and then you feel like c*ap, men are being bankrupted by these OF females, then are found not-alive a few days latter, because they reality of what they did kicks in.

  • @paris466
    @paris466 4 месяца назад +5

    The problem is real. The RedPill solution/treatment is questionable, but it seems to be the best one at this time. If you don't think so, come up with a better one. One *exclusively* FOR men and completely devoid of any trace of the "feminine" touch. One that is helping solve YOUNG MEN'S issues, only.

    • @theceohq
      @theceohq 4 месяца назад +2

      What's wrong with a "feminine" touch? What does feminine touch even mean?

    • @paris466
      @paris466 4 месяца назад +2

      @@theceohq Men right now need *male* help. Women don't need to be sticking their fingers in the pie, trying to influence the direction it goes. That direction is up to MEN.
      Women can stay out of it. They're useless on this topic and that's that.

    • @megaMagaManX8
      @megaMagaManX8 3 месяца назад

      ​@@theceohq it's not working. Literally tried your method for 30 something years and it's clearly not working. Tate is a clear symptom. Men need a real answer. fk off

  • @thisisutubnottwitterwhyhandles
    @thisisutubnottwitterwhyhandles 3 месяца назад +4

    "Claiming to have the answers to all the problems, but just making everything worse"
    The American two-party system in a nutshell.

  • @draganvujatovic4603
    @draganvujatovic4603 7 месяцев назад +129

    Let's not ignore the fact that these people, especially Fresh&Fit, are almost solely hosting the worst kinds of girls personality-wise. Most of the girls are not like that. Most of the attractive girls are not like that either. If you are socializing in the real world and your experience on this topic is different than mine , I'd strongly advise you to start building new social circles elsewhere.

    • @josephmueller3752
      @josephmueller3752 7 месяцев назад

      you are not seeing the girls there, you are seeing the masks they put on for that audience

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky 7 месяцев назад

      Tbh I've never seen a young woman not having hoe pics on social media. I really haven't run into anything in my life to contradict the red pill information. I see examples that confirm red pill over and over. I even knew 2 women that I always held as exceptions, as paragons of "good women". I didn't keep in touch with one of them and the other one just proved me wrong recently. For sure, anywhere where there's a possible grift, the grifters will come. I recognized immediately what Andrew Tate and his HU was and always said it was a scam. Content creators try more and more desperately to get clicks and views and even create fake content or try hard to create controversy and scandals (fresh and fit is a good example). But the information behind the red pill is still accurate. And tbh, the fault for the red pill even having a place to exist still is feminism and the biggest exploiters of male loneliness is still the porn industry, only fans, female twitch streamers, dating apps and women in general with their simp farming.

    • @mexreax4493
      @mexreax4493 7 месяцев назад

      most women want someone to take care of them. they will not date bums that cant even go outside.

    • @oliversmith2129
      @oliversmith2129 6 месяцев назад +30

      "Most of the attractive girls are not like that either." Hahahaha. That's cute.
      FnF may be grifting with their podcast but they are not always wrong.

    • @nelcomargaming6612
      @nelcomargaming6612 6 месяцев назад

      from my experience, most attractive girls are like that. They do this because attractive women can get away with everything and treat men horribly and yet still be wanted.

  • @leninfranco9328
    @leninfranco9328 5 месяцев назад +9

    I just subscribed to your channel.great job analyzing this problem. We have to expose these clowns and try to help these young men.

    • @TRMHOU
      @TRMHOU 5 месяцев назад

      "dude shut up, Fresh and Fit are schooling people for free almost daily. There is a library of free game and encouragement to do better. Tate is different, you have to pay to get in his course.

    • @TRMHOU
      @TRMHOU 5 месяцев назад

      "try to help" but F&F are literally doing so with real work, checking in to work 3 times a week pretty much 7 days working and grinding to bring content from REal estate, side hustles, credit repair, etc..

    • @leninfranco9328
      @leninfranco9328 5 месяцев назад

      @@TRMHOU 😂 free? 😂 they sell a 500 💵 course on how to get laid as we speak. You still have time cause you haven't grown yet and don't even know how to brush your teeth yet..you have time to change 😂

    • @stanleyball2615
      @stanleyball2615 4 месяца назад +1

      #1 Most American Women are A No Fault Divorce Waiting To Happen. This makes them a bad financial risk for a man to marry or common law cohabitate with. #2 Most American Women commit adultery. Thanks to cell phone texting technology and Facebook etc,etc this has made most American Husbands - Cuckolds - who work to financially pay the majority of living expenses for a wife. But another man for free gets to have sex with his wife. #3 Most men women over 30 years old already have Out Of Wedlock Children. This means men unlike men of most of human history Have To Financially Take Care Of Another Man's Children. #4 Most Wives In America get lazy with the sex they give their husbands. American wives cut back on the sex acts they did with their husbands before he married them. And American Wives cut back the number of times they have sex with their husbands. Often to once a month. The Red Pill makes men intelligent enough to not marry , cohabitate or procreate with women in this country to avoid these things the overwhelming vast majority of American Women do. ( I have 4 other things I didn't have time to add to the list ) #5 Paternity Fraud.

    • @Paivren
      @Paivren 4 месяца назад

      The Red pill is what helps young men. What are you gonna do, make blue-pilled men more blue-pilled so that their chances with life and women will be even lower?

  • @afroprince5262
    @afroprince5262 5 месяцев назад +2

    I will only base my advice on what I do myself, as a man if you have something on your mind or your chest that’s bothering you, speak on it and if people try to shut you up just speak louder.
    That is the only way to improve my mental health is partly in understanding that we don’t
    need permission to Express ourselves, not from other men or women.
    Not from anyone in society

  • @samjohnson8588
    @samjohnson8588 8 месяцев назад +60

    I've spent the last few years in a really bad space when I had to move back to my parents in 2019 - I think if I didn't have other male friends sliding into the red pill swamp that I may have started sinking into those waters myself.
    During the first lockdown, I used the 3 months I had available to me to dedicate to a hobby that means something to me rather than buying random shit to appeal to my monkey brain, made moves to improve my financial situation by working some ass jobs that gave me the experience for a higher than average wage and have made better diet / exercise choices so I wasn't a walking blob anymore. I've done that for a few years and I've finally moved out to my own place the other month.
    Things aren't perfect now - I still get lonely and down from time to time but I've got stuff going on now and have been able to keep things ticking along just focusing on getting my shit together - all without having to buy any kind of course.

    • @jessealexander9074
      @jessealexander9074 8 месяцев назад +5

      I can relate, you chose the better path. Good job.

    • @tabby73
      @tabby73 8 месяцев назад +1

      That sounds really good 👍👍

    • @darkcloud9053
      @darkcloud9053 8 месяцев назад +4

      Man your life sounds depressing.

    • @RoseDrawsThings
      @RoseDrawsThings 8 месяцев назад +3

      that rules dude! keep going!

    • @steveb6718
      @steveb6718 7 месяцев назад +2

      never been lonely in my life..................... stop already.
      get your shit together, grow up, do the hard thing.

  • @Hiyooma
    @Hiyooma 8 месяцев назад +46

    I agreed with everything you said except one thing.
    I'm 31 years old and I am now by definition a "hermit" or "neet" whatever you wanna call it.
    but it's by choice. I dated quite a bit of girls tried to find the right one ended up in a 7 year relationship
    that was just me wanting her to be everything I thought she was and ignored red flags.
    I had quite a few friends and went out regularly. but I'm most relaxed and happy at home at my computer.
    The statistics don't lie. Less friends = Less drama no Relationship = no drama.
    Sometimes there are times in peoples lives where they are happier avoiding humans in general.
    Now how long and how far someone takes that is an entirely different rabbit hole.

    • @sheercold26
      @sheercold26 8 месяцев назад

      Are you happy?

    • @Hiyooma
      @Hiyooma 8 месяцев назад +20

      @@sheercold26 happier then I am dealing with crowds and groups of people absolutely.

    • @gabebarbieri194
      @gabebarbieri194 8 месяцев назад +1

      I’m happy for you if you enjoy being less social but I feel like human connections are a big part of what makes life worth living

    • @ncs9753
      @ncs9753 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@gabebarbieri194 Some people just don't like crowd, noise (parties) etc. I know married people (both man or woman) who just dislike going to those occasion but I mean they are independent and have kids so nothing wrong with it. It's just that introverted people by nature are in higher risk to be lonely/shut-in if in their younger years they did not made any meaningful relationship.

    • @MajimaEnterprises
      @MajimaEnterprises 8 месяцев назад +2

      I think just the way people interact with each other has changed over the years. Like, everyone's scared of saying the wrong thing and getting into a political argument now. Back when I had a decent sized friend group 8 years ago, that wasn't as much of a thing. Even though the people in that group generally leaned left, some of the stuff they used to come out with would be considered highly politically incorrect these days, but it was fine back then. I feel like identity politics and word policing has done a lot of damage to social relationships, especially when it comes to joking around.

  • @agnostic2111
    @agnostic2111 5 месяцев назад

    Great work.

  • @muhammadabdullahwaseem3040
    @muhammadabdullahwaseem3040 6 месяцев назад +3

    the thing is that if someone wants to believe in something then there is nothing you can do to convince them otherwise. they will go back to that idea like an addict to drugs

  • @me0101001000
    @me0101001000 8 месяцев назад +71

    The more I see about the struggles of men around my age, I think I'm extremely lucky to have a strong support system and network of friends who love and care about me, in spite of my conditions and odd experiences.
    Those of you who are struggling, I really can't imagine what you're going through, and I wish you the best in conquering those empty feelings!

    • @SquarishLink
      @SquarishLink 7 месяцев назад +1

      its like a blackhole hovering above you constantly sucking, purpose meaning and hope all day every day. It only gets strong as the time passes as it does. Someday it will swallow me whole, until then i just live one day at a time wishing it were the last.

    • @InGodITrust333
      @InGodITrust333 2 месяца назад

      @@SquarishLinkI pray that whatever heartache you are going through ends. I hope you will be able to experience a more abundant life soon. Hang in there.

  • @xtremefurrycat
    @xtremefurrycat 8 месяцев назад +9

    I think falling into a group to help you better understand who you are and what you are is a good thing, the main problem is finding the right group you fit in. I know I found my group and it worked out well, really helped me from my downs and supported me for making good choices for myself. I see the appeal to a lot of these red pill groups because its easier to follow a few key things, focus way too much on those will make you blind to other things going on around you. You have to find a place for you, not what others want to be.

    • @nobodyknowsforsure
      @nobodyknowsforsure 5 месяцев назад

      The problem is exactly that, ppl are so accustomed with 'group think' that they fail to see when ppl are individually operating and assessing things. If you watch F&F you're classed a certain way, if you watch another you're classed that way. So what happens if you're watching a variety of them? Content that are vastly different from each other? What then?

  • @LexRex11
    @LexRex11 5 месяцев назад +4

    The most important thing ia the mother,fetus child dynamic. This is what is setting everyone up to become who they are. Their relationship with themselves, the opposite gender and the whole.

    • @JR-lw3ms
      @JR-lw3ms 2 месяца назад

      LOL

    • @LexRex11
      @LexRex11 2 месяца назад

      @@JR-lw3ms ok

  • @survivaldome2503
    @survivaldome2503 3 месяца назад +3

    I went through a phase where I believed in Andrew Tate and "The Manosphere", but it never made me feel better. Surprisingly, this video gave me more confidence than they ever did, knowing that there are people who care about us, instead of just money. Thank you

  • @pyronical
    @pyronical 8 месяцев назад +42

    Don't give up my bros, I was there Gandalf, a lonely man in his 30s with nothing to live for. But I pushed myself to get out there and be better, I'm 42 now, married to the love of my life with two great kids. You can do it.

    • @thesaddestdude3575
      @thesaddestdude3575 8 месяцев назад +10

      Honestly ive given up, i see no reason in even trying anymore. They hate us.

    • @pyronical
      @pyronical 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@thesaddestdude3575 It's hard, not gonna lie. I've been there. I'm not an adonis, I'm a gaming geek, average looking at best. But I found a genuine good lady who just wanted a genuinely good man, they do exist.

    • @Halfort57
      @Halfort57 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@pyronicalIF you work at an stable earning a decent wage

    • @firstlast8258
      @firstlast8258 7 месяцев назад

      Speak for yourself 🤓🖕

    • @MsLotusBlooms
      @MsLotusBlooms 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@thesaddestdude3575 Stop going for the women who are highly sought after. Go for the women who know what it's like to feel undervalued.

  • @babylonian5
    @babylonian5 7 месяцев назад +91

    at least they TRY to give a solution to men. Never forget how other people reacted to Shoeonhead's video about these social problems. They were laughing at it

    • @esbenm6544
      @esbenm6544 7 месяцев назад +10

      👶🍼

    • @jimmymaracas6442
      @jimmymaracas6442 7 месяцев назад

      Yes there is serious hate towards most men and ppl like the creator of this video will not admit there is a real conspiracy by government and certain corporations to immaculate men, this is why many men have retreated from society in the first place but once again it’s easier and more profitable to blame men here

    • @Remake5182
      @Remake5182 6 месяцев назад +6

      True,

    • @warcrimeconnoisseur5238
      @warcrimeconnoisseur5238 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@esbenm6544Babies are cool

    • @user-xb9dx2mp1z
      @user-xb9dx2mp1z 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah I remember but shoe’s intention was to bring awareness to the problem, not solve a problem. She also acknowledged how her own political identity has disenfranchised young lonely men and wanted to open the conversation for them to do better. I thought it was a good video. I have nothing to say about the people that did laugh, joke, and make rude comments over her video.

  • @h.9089
    @h.9089 4 месяца назад +9

    I am currently in a 3 year relationship with a woman i met through Hinge. I honestly THANK the redpill community in helping out with my dating life.

    • @i10i60
      @i10i60 4 месяца назад +2

      How did the RedPill community help out in your dating life ?

    • @h.9089
      @h.9089 4 месяца назад +2

      @@i10i60 it helped me weed out women that had issues and didn't have good intentions.

    • @h.9089
      @h.9089 4 месяца назад +1

      @@i10i60 It weed out women who had bad ulterior motives.

    • @i10i60
      @i10i60 4 месяца назад

      @@h.9089 How? And what issues? What intentions? What ulterior motives?

    • @timothykennedy2454
      @timothykennedy2454 27 дней назад

      Made women the enemy so you didn't have to to work on yourself. Got it.

  • @user-qm9tu7cp4t
    @user-qm9tu7cp4t 4 месяца назад

    Holy shit I'm completely speechless and I don't know what to think anymore 😒

  • @PlanetJeroen
    @PlanetJeroen 7 месяцев назад +6

    Its not a dating problem. Its a daddy problem. The whole manosphere is projecting hard .. whenever they accuse women of something, its what they themselves are doing.
    They keep saying that these women missed a daddy in their life .. instead its them that missed a daddy, that as a result didnt learn them self-reliance, self-respect, and staying emotionally centered. The end result is insecure, immature and needy little boys, that are probably used to getting their way via their mother, and expect their girlfriends to pick up where mom left off.
    It's pathetic.

    • @TheGamingChad.
      @TheGamingChad. 6 месяцев назад +1

      keep in mind, 90% of men are invisible to women, duh. Most women are running circles around 1% guys.

  • @cedriclapointe5869
    @cedriclapointe5869 4 месяца назад +4

    You're wrong on almost all your arguments. These "Self help gurus" turned my life around 180 degrees. My life was going to shit until I started listening to their advice. My life is now better in every realm of human endeavor.

    • @JR-lw3ms
      @JR-lw3ms 2 месяца назад +1

      Is it though?

  • @uPLoAdinG36912
    @uPLoAdinG36912 Месяц назад

    You are BL🤩Win up!! You rock!!

  • @greghowes1937
    @greghowes1937 8 месяцев назад +4

    I live on my own, yes I am lonely and single. I also suffer with a chronic illness which is the main reason for my depression, fortunately I am seeing a professional therapist. In my older years I wouldn’t go nowhere near these grifters, but I can see myself falling for it in my teens.

  • @DaniJ2891
    @DaniJ2891 6 месяцев назад +48

    I have a young adult son, he most of the time complains about society not just here in USA other countries as well , this is the thing i'm from Guatemala and i always reminded him to embrace life and enjoy his day no matter how shitty is, i'm not feminist i respect their decisions at the end of the day every human being have rights and free will, i'm in my 40s but one thing i've been doing with my son is to introduce him to the things my generation used to do in the 90s , devices, cameras, cultures, i told him i don't care what ethnicity is his future bride as long he's happy i'm happy, of course education is important but behavioral health is priority, we need more down to earth people than empty cold human beings, my husband is from LA obviously other culture i love him i respect him, he's a great father and provider, but there's one difference between loneliness and solitude

    • @Volknsarr
      @Volknsarr 5 месяцев назад +4

      Do you also show him the flaws of the 90s?
      bc they wherent perfect and its 2023 so it aged.

    • @TheShowOff2I
      @TheShowOff2I 4 месяца назад +2

      Just because your husband got married doesn’t mean your son is going to get manipulated into marriage as well.

    • @theneutralguy2317
      @theneutralguy2317 2 месяца назад

      you’re a based mother.

  • @lightinferno4490
    @lightinferno4490 3 месяца назад +5

    Redpill provides a "why" to questions some men may struggle with their whole lives if they don't come across this information.

    • @DiscoFCD
      @DiscoFCD 3 месяца назад

      Yes, but you have to be sceptical. They feed you the good stuff but sometimes stuff in some bad

    • @lightinferno4490
      @lightinferno4490 3 месяца назад

      @DiscoFCD That goes with everything. But the message is very important so we should make sure we don't throw out the baby with the bathwater

    • @DiscoFCD
      @DiscoFCD 3 месяца назад

      @lightinferno4490 but its more like they mix the bad with the good. Thay way you dont realize you have been coded with the bad

    • @lightinferno4490
      @lightinferno4490 3 месяца назад

      @DiscoFCD How so? I think they overvalue materialism, but I think that is media in general. They also highlight unflattering truths about female behaviour, but to me, that is the reason why they are so valuable. They explain what no one else does and it may seem minute, but it's something most men have dealt with but not completely identified until they come across RP content.

    • @PhilipTikka
      @PhilipTikka 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DiscoFCDI”ll take that over 100% ignorance any day

  • @HootWireless-lr9gm
    @HootWireless-lr9gm 4 месяца назад +1

    Please stick to early acess video game reviews... oh and do MORE of these becouse this was based AF! great video dude!

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  4 месяца назад

      Bit of a contradiction there mate.

  • @sirscribbs5993
    @sirscribbs5993 7 месяцев назад +7

    After moving to a new country as someone in their mid twenties, ive discovered that the only way to make friends, is through friends and sometimes work... so its not been going very well for me.

    • @biteofdog
      @biteofdog 7 месяцев назад +1

      It took me a few years to make friends after I moved to another city, most of my friends are former coworkers.

    • @noodle1761
      @noodle1761 5 месяцев назад

      Well, would you like to start online (I am offering my friendship)

  • @cichoriumintybus4637
    @cichoriumintybus4637 7 месяцев назад +8

    I think, you speaking out and sharing your thoughts in general on that topic, is crucial for your audience and hopefully some other "stumblers" as well. Personally, as I come from an age without social media, yet was young enough to get influenced by forums and chats, I can see the appeal of having "online" conversations, where you can drop out at any time or dip in as well.
    After having a relationship for nearly 11 years and facing a divorce, I see the possible "susceptibility" for those guys (and some girls) thoughts, yet I highly agree on the dichothome way of the shaping the world, which is and will never be true, but will make certainly easier, if you decide to see it that way - although also way more hostile and difficult in other aspects, which is taking responsibilty for oneself as an example.
    I do feel though, society, at least "western" society, has failed (younger) men in general on certain occations, which made these guys uprising basically a self-fullfiling prophecy. I personally only faced, with a single deception, mistreat on online-apps and deleted it shortly after awhile, as it was one of the most toxis spaces I ever entered, yet on the other hand, talking or better "exposing" onself outside, may be seen as "unprofessionel, creepy" or at least a nussiance, which probably make some men doing nothing at all.
    Lets put it simple: No one rode a bicycle from the get go perfectly or was able to eat properly, just to name a few simple things, where you have been exposed to others, yet it was fine to make mistakes, doing better and pershaps, have success. But its more difficult for social interaction(s), especially, if you may face social resentment at younger age(s) and therefor makes it harder to overwrite these experiences in later life - which these "red pill" idiots bascically pray successful on, while also "having a point in there somewhere", if we just have a look at mens social life in generel, their "self-deleting" (thanks youtube) and at least there inability to seak help, while faicng alot of different stereotypes and expectations from whatever side my choose to be shown or allowed to speak in the spotlight.
    I can relate to why people seek out advice, but rather choose to be more insightful to oneself, (personally a stoic mindset can be helpful and should never be tainted with negative thoughts towards anyone as this is a self-contradiction in the philosophy in itself), try to be a better version of yourself after a certain time - not for others - but you, and seek what your purpose in life can be, without relying on validation or in the end a social circle, which may admire you for whatever you are doing, while being actually hollow from the insight.
    Not everyone can be succesful, I truly believe that. But I do think, everyone can find a piece of happyness and solitude. Neither of any of those guys you have shown will even remotly provide that and I do hope, a lot of (younger) men will see at least this and get the better of themselfs.
    Have a good time, Kira. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

  • @patrickdurdenman7221
    @patrickdurdenman7221 5 месяцев назад

    Very intelligent video, hands down

  • @RoofusRoof19
    @RoofusRoof19 5 месяцев назад +23

    The best way to treat the red pill is to take the good things at face value and apply them to your life. Sort of like if a fish ate the bait off the hook without getting hooked in.

  • @bizzyrodrigues3780
    @bizzyrodrigues3780 7 месяцев назад +64

    It's simple, everything extreme is bad, you can't just be black or white because life isn't just black and white, you have to have a middle ground, there isn't just red and blue, there is a rainbow of situations and realities that you live in your life that you must take this into consideration.

    • @R3ktCunnyz69
      @R3ktCunnyz69 5 месяцев назад +1

      If you're comparing social interaction in particular to rainbows, then having Autism is the equivalent of being born colour-blind.

    • @SkyPilot-qx2sb
      @SkyPilot-qx2sb 4 месяца назад +1

      you remind me of something I said when I heard about extreme red pill and blue pill content
      screw the both of em give me the damm purple pill!

    • @gambini1598
      @gambini1598 4 месяца назад +3

      Yes, this is the exact problem. You create your own reality, and If you consume too much RP content, you just become a bitter and angry person. You need to work on yourself in departments where you feel you can do better and sh@@y YT RP content is MOSTLY not for you to become better but for content creators to hook you up and earn your hard-earned money by selling you some sh@@y courses. Amen to your comment.

    • @shiva_689
      @shiva_689 4 месяца назад

      I agree with the premise that nuance and middle ground is important and that context matters. I don't agree with the idea that everything extreme is bad. Things can also be extremely good. Democracy was a very extreme and radical idea when people came up with it but it's been very good compared to everything that came before it. Anything extraordinary is extreme by definition.

  • @brendonford3838
    @brendonford3838 8 месяцев назад +66

    No joke, magic the gathering helped me battle severe depression better than any substance or support group, because it is a social hobby I can really focus on and meet like-minded people with similar interests

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +24

      Mtg is actually a FANTASTIC nerd hobby to get you into a great position socially, meeting like minded individuals for friendships and relationships. 100%. Some of my irl friends had the same exact experience.

    • @brendonford3838
      @brendonford3838 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@KiraTV1 I’ve made some of my best friends this year and reconnected with old ones through magic, and giving a sad friend a magic card they needed will make a day brighter 😊

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +28

      You're not the arbiter of what is or isn't wasted time. Focus on your own life. You're making comments on a youtube video disparaging other people's hobbies. That's a waste of time, lmao.

    • @shadeitplease7383
      @shadeitplease7383 8 месяцев назад +11

      @@Jaddddddddddddddddddmtg literally isn’t a video game though. It’s an in person card game. So you literally have to socialize with actual people to play it. So your opinion is actually silly

    • @KiraTV1
      @KiraTV1  8 месяцев назад +14

      Yes, the "truth". Get help dude. Sincerely.