Are you using the CORRECT driver loft?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Are you using the correct driver loft? If not you could be losing distance and accuracy, so in this video Ali will explain which lofts benefit which golfers and by using Trackman show you the differences.
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Id like yo see you have some seniors hit balls with the higher loft clubs and maybe 80 to 90 mph clubhead speed and perhaps a regular and senior shaft for comparison. Theres allot of us thatweould benifit from a video like that.
I have a flat swing taught to me over 60 years ago and still works for me. I am short and was taught by the same man who taught Patti Berg who was also short. 15 years ago I had an 8 degree Cobra stiff shaft that I could hit 220-230. Now in my 80's I use a 7.5 Cleveland driver senior shaft and recently picked up the Sim2 8 degree with a regular shaft and am hitting it a little farther. The one fact that cannot be ignored is as you age your distance goes down. Being 84 I can attest to that particular fact. To me the shaft is just as if not more important than the head loft. But it seems media ads ignore that important fact when buying golf clubs.
Excellent. Being over 70, playing a Mavrik Max at 10deg, as an 11deg hits it too high; still hit nicely over 215. It depends on the fitter; some good, some the opposite. My thought for an avg. player, who chooses not to get fit - get a driver at 10.5deg, have adapter put on the permits -2 to +2deg adjustments & find your setting…
I recently increased the loft on my M2 driver from 9 to 10 and it made a huge difference. I am now launching the ball higher, straighter and longer. Just upgraded to SIM 2 max and eager to try it. Went with 10.5 loft and Reg flex shaft. Just turned 73.
Excellent explanation and demonstration. I had low driver ball flight for 15 years with most misses going left using 10.5 head and 55r shaft. Took one lesson (first since 2007) and practiced for a month then got fitted. Now with 9 degree head and 55s shaft attack angle is 4 up, launch 14, 20 yards more carry, 800 less spin and straighter flight. If I’d got fitted without the lesson it would have been very different - I’ve got wider stance, moved ball position forward, got more tilt behind the ball and standing closer to the ball to stay on plane and avoid toe hooks. Much longer and more consistent now. The lesson made the fitting much better. So did watching loads of youtube videos like this one to understand the swing and tech.
Great advice! I've always had a very flat driver swing and tend to have a low ball flight so I've been using a 12 degree driver for years. I just took a lesson and completely changed my swing plane (dropped right shoulder, hitting up on the ball) and all of a sudden I've got 20+ more yards and a nice, high ball flight. Too high. So I'm changing to a 10.5 degree driver (assuming when I get fitted it works for me) on the assumption that I'll still be hitting the ball higher but probably further as well...
I'm a senior golfer and changed my loft from 9 degrees driver and added 1.5 gained 35 yards, and yes it's worth doing it 👍
Ali, really like your friendly delivery and unassuming attitude across the majority of club golfers. As a cack -handed golfer of 40+ years, generally speaking I drive the ball quite well (consistently straight), but average around 220/230yds (swing speed 85ish), any pointers you would offer on loft/ spin/ carry scenarios?
TIA.
Thank you so much for this video. Nobody has come close to answering this via video to yours. I'm a noob to golf and just began playing with my wife and she is too. Instant sub!
Cracking video, Ali, thank you. I was fitted for my driver a few months back. My fitter set my Ping G le 2 to 11.5. He said I had natural fade with my swing and left it as such. I know with some drivers that yoy can change the draw or the fade. I am going for a new full bag fitting next Thursday, so I will mention it to my new fitter. The other guy has left our club now, so new ideas and all that.
I moved my driver up to 11.5 and was hitting fairways with consistency much more. Then I got cocky and moved it back down to it’s stated loft and started slicing way more and couldn’t figure out why. The way the loft can affect your the path of the ball flight is so interesting. Safe to say I will benefit from a higher loft which is fine w me bc I would rather hit it straight and long a lot of the time instead of straight and long sometimes but slice it a lot just for an extra 10 or 15 yards if I hit it right
Yes higher loft closes the club face which means less slicing so 12 degrees is good
Less loft open the club face so more slicing
It’s getting a balance if you are good at closing club face then 10.5 if not then 12 degrees will help you hit fairways
Thanks for that! I recently bought a 12* SIM2D cause I am on the lower speed side of life and mostly touch the ground before hitting the ball. So for now I have to got to the range and check how I perform with different settings of my new driver…! ✌🏽
how was it^
If I take my 10.5 driver and adjust the loft to 9 will this then have exactly the same set up/characteristics of a driver that’s standard loft is 9? If not what will be different and how will these differences effect the two different drivers now both set with 9 loft?
I wish more was said about ideal launch conditions. What is your ideal aoa, dynamic loft, etc. In relation to club speed.
I ran my G430 at 9.5 with weight draw biased and it wasn't working for me. I went back to 10.5 and weight neutral and the results are much more consistent. I do try to hit up on the ball with driver. I'm still going to play around a little more. I can say that the g430 has been a fantastic driver for me; I get along quite well with it.
110 club head speed....not happening @ 65....90 on a good day, normally mid 80s...so loft above 11* is needed....great video, BTW !
What a great informative explanation of a topic with so many variants - especially for someone like me who’s considering a driver upgrade! Thank you 🙏
Everyone saying they moved up while I felt I was hitting up at the ball too much causing crazy spins and massive loft. I will be adjusting down the loft and seeing if the helps my high slices.
I think I’ll try delofting a degree or two. I just started using a higher tee and trying to hit up more, which I am starting to dial in a little better. Maybe there are a few extra yards to be had if I deloft.
We watch videos of various people stating the same thing, but when it is explained in such a way where it clicks, it really comes together. This video clicked with me. Thank you
You're welcome Brian, hope it helps
I always used a 10*/10.5*. I was struggling, so tried a 12*. I now hit the ball further and straighter.
Was you slicing it? I am really struggling with a slice on 10.5 degrees so wondering if this would work for me, not had chance to try yet though
@@2010LeeG The main reason people slice is because the club face is too open. If you continue to close the face when striking the ball this will help. 12* drivers are far more forgiving
@@watchalot919 cheers, very new to golf so appreciate the advice. I'll let you know.
new viewer. Love the content thus far! the driver series is very much going to help me. thanks for the awesomeness!
I love this explanation. Thank you Ali !!!!! I have wondered about driver lofts for some time now.
when you changed the 9.0 degree to 7.o degree what was the setting you used on the shaft
Great video and information! I use to gold a lot in college and then kind of dropped off to once or twice per year until now. Getting back into it and surprisingly hitting my driver straight, but it doesn't feel like I'm getting the distance I should. Going to switch up my degree after watching this and see what happens. Thanks! New subscriber!
Just yesterday I change my 17' M1 9º from 10.25º to 8.75º and sitting on my the ground pleased my eyes. It was more like a 3/5 wood or a iron so I was more confident and, even that the face was more opened, I hit a mid flight straight 270 yds total (Like 20 yds further than my normal fades) . Maybe a 10.5º head would add some carry distance with no closed face. Maybe time for a fitting too.
A 10.5 vs 9.0 will have a more closed face by design. Be aware higher loft creates a more closed face.
I have a SIM Max 12, that is fully adjustable, does that mean when I go down 1.5 that it is a true 10.5 loft? I’m confused with the lofts and adjustable drivers
Good info, never knew that the loft would affect the smash factor, that will likely keep me lower lofted now!
Not sure if I agree 100% since Jason day plays like 11 or 11.5 loft and I think dj is now at 10.5
Why would you compare reg golfers to pros?
Perfect examples for fitting
tempo, ball speed, and peak height are important as well
A rule of thumb for optimal carry, your peak height in feet should be similar to your 6 iron swing speed. Example, 6 iron swing speed = 80 mph, the peak height should be 80 feet +/- 10% for most/all clubs
Optimized will provide better contact and increased ball speed.
More distance ...
It’s the end of summer with rock hard fairways, so 9 degrees... come winter with no run; 12.5 degrees.
Easy!
Thank you for all the videos your making i follow you for a while now and you helped me a lot in different ways! Now i Bought a new set and got the SIM2 Max 10.5! The best driver ever but i would like to make it more 9.5 the 10.5! How do i do it with the different marks on the tip of the of the shaft? Thank you in advance!
Excellent video… thank you for posting! Ironically I was thinking about this very subject the other day (I’m a used driver guy, the price of a new driver equals 1/3 of my total iron costs!)
good info, what should be the ideal shaft length, I hit down and usually play a 8.5, and my bad shot is a push fade, I am going to increase the loft and see how that goes.
I have a 7.5 degree titleist 915 D3 with a 70g extra stiff shaft and despite the fact that I am short and not particularly powerful it definitely gives me better results due to the fact that everything else I hit goes too high and spins far too much.
I bet nobody believes this comment but if you hit the driver with a ton of spin you should at least experiment with something similar - the results might surprise you.
Thanks. Can you explain the different colour tees for flight.
I see a video saying to keep the face square after altering the settings to get the benefits from the changes made because of how the hosel is bent.
Ali Great video, I have just brought a Mizuno ST200 and its in the 10.5 with reg shaft, My question is: I have a swing speed with it of about 80 mph but I have a very high ball flight so I drop it down 1 degree to compensate for the higher ball flight, is this right or have i just got to try and change my swing or grip to try and hit up on the ball more, my ball direction is pretty much straight and my bad drive is a fade slash slice but lose loads of distance because it spins up to much and goes no where, Long winded i know but would value your advice.
a very understandable tutorial on some basics even for the weekend warrior
PS I have been using strong grip to compensate, but I now go left or right. I will look at a video and try and find what a neutral grip is. I already have an open stance with the trail foot back a couple of inches. I am 25 handicap and 64 years of age, so distance matters now.
How about the high launch low spin thing so more loft but weights forward ?
I also think more then degree of face ..more on shaft..is so important to attack angle
Whats considered lower for club or ball speed?
Hi Ali I live in brisbane playing off 8 handicap but I can't drive too long have a taylormade sim 2 max 10.5 just wondering should I set the loft lower to get more distance ?
I’m at around the 105 mph swing speed was 9.5 loft but wasn’t hitting that far 240/250 carry put it up 1 degree and now at 260 carry so I’m messing about with the loft on my M1 driver because I think I have more in the tank to reach 280 yards
Question, as 60 year old with I believe reasonable swing speed (having recently been fitted for a ser of irons) I hit up on the ball with driver set at 10.5 degrees, hitting better than previously, shot shape is slight fade (with all low irons as well) should I go up to next setting of 11.5 degrees?? Current driver is the Cobra King F7 which I had fitted some years ago.
I think it could help
would you recommend someone who has a sim2 Max 9degrees (clubhead speed is 123mph) to switch to 7 degrees? Would they see benefits in terms of distance and spin?
Just try it out at the range. Takes 10 seconds to adjust it.
I have my cobra king speedzone driver set at 10.5 loft. I do notice that I hit the ball decently high weather I slice it or not. Sometimes I sky the ball, but I know that has to do with my swing path. You think if I lower it down to standard I’ll get a better ball flight? So less height so I can get more distance and less chances of skying the ball? I’m a beginner and noticed my driver hits have changed a lot. I went from slicing to hooking to skying to being able to hit 10 in a row perfectly straight for 220+ yards....now I did a full circle slicing again
Great video exactly what I was looking to learn. My clubhead speeds are above 110mph and I strike up on the ball a good amount so I would assume I would bennefit from a 7* driver. Also play in the wind a lot so just more reason to get a lower loft then my current 9.5* m2.
What a great instructive video. Thanks!
Enjoyed the vid. Are golf club torque wrenches universal or specific to each brand?
I have a rbz taylormade and a g425 ping driver and they use the same wrench,as long as the star pattern is the same they will work.hope that helps
@@Bamacountry88 cheers for the info, have a great day.
@@johnm900 🍻
Great vid, Ali! There's a dogleg par 4 on which I need a higher flight to carry a stand of trees to cut the corner. My carry distance is usually less than I would normally expect, which as you explained in the vid could be a loss of ball speed by the increased AoA/launch angle. Thx for the insight!
@Hoa Tattis ¡
Ali i have this driver swing at 95mph and is set on.10.5*. I've been hitting shots left on the course and off the low heel side of the face. If i open the club face up 1.5* should this take it more right and with the stike i choke down the grip around an inch as it feels too long for me. Would a shorter shaft take strike back towards the toe area?
Do you hit a 3W off the tee and is that off the heel too? Is that going left?
Ideally use a launch monitor to get the numbers but sounds like choking down the grip an inch is a good start.
All depends on the attack angle. I hit my driver just inside my left toe so my attack angle is pretty high already-8 degree gets me 110ft high.
Great video, this makes more sense. Thank you for explaining it in a much easier way to understand. I currently play a 11.00 degree driver, set to draw, and at 11.5 degree, maybe I should be going lower like 9.5 degrees. My swing speed is at 110 mph.
It's all relative to swing path
You talk about higher and lower club head speed - what speeds are you talking about falling into the categories?
Average male is around 90-100mph. Low is 80-90 and high is 110mph plus for ameteur's.
How does increasing the loft close the clubface, and decreasingly the loft open the clubface with the driver? Typically it's the opposite.
What i was wondering as well…
No it isn’t.
Those are total distance numbers that I see. But, they say if you have a swing speed 105mph+ you should be able to get to 300yds??? I have 105 to 108mph yet only get 275yds on a good strike, 280yds with a draw. Nowhere near 300yds. Looking for the ultra low spin driver that can get me to magical 300yds
I put loft up when its wet lower when dry ,it works for me
Did I hear you correctly that lofting up closes the face and lofting down opens the face? My 10.5* lofted driver naturally sits a bit open and I'm trying to figure out what adjustment I need to make to get it back to square at resting position. Thx
Standard setting
@@kieronburns3118 it sits open on standard setting is what I was saying. I bought the driver second hand so not sure how this happened. Thanks
Bought a Titliest TS driver. Can’t seem to get the right lift dialed in. I played titliest 910 12 degree loft. Couldn’t hit any better. Bought newer club 11.5. My swing speed about 85. I’m 56 years old. Avg drive about 225. Now I seem to push everything right
Loft not lift
Hi! I have a Sim2 max 10.5 Rshaft, I don’t know my swing speed, my garmin says my drives go between 206 to 225(max258) I tend to hit to the right, what should I do, thanks!
Try to change your grip first. Do you have a good neutral grip? That usually helps close the face and straighten things out.
Wait so lifting down opens the face? I thought it closed it more, and lofting up opened it?
How would i be able to get my 10.5 degree loft driver down to maybe a 5 degree loft or even 7.5?
The Taylormade hosel only adjusts +/- 1.5°. You'll have to buy a new head.
Go get a lesson off a pro that has a monitor and once you have your delivery numbers you at least have an idea as to what you are doing right or wrong and whether your club is helping or harming you. From there you can decide if you want to optimise your swing or change your club. If your pro has a monitor them he or she is likely quite clued up on club fitting and may be able to adjust what you already have.
What is slower end, what is medium please?
Very informative 🙂👍
Thank you
I bought a used Sim 2 and put it back to standard loft. I am hooking everything horribly but switch right back to my chap driver and am hitting it perfectly. Any suggestions?
For the driver or your golf swing
@@AliTaylorGolf for the driver. I hit fine with the same swing with my old driver but with the sim 2 I am hooking everything? Could the setup on the sim with the adjustments be making me hit it like that?
Thanks , a big help.
Amazing thanks so much very cleae
If you drop the loft you open the face... What about dropping the loft say from 10.5 to 9.5D what would that do?
It will still open the face 2 deg but the CG is nearer the heel in D type
Had a 9° Ping G400 Max. Had to turn it all the way down and it still went plenty high. Got the Hogan G53 in 9° and I had to set it all the way up. '9°' is relative.
Good advice.
Enjoyed it!
what is the best launch angle ?
Depends on your club speed
@@AliTaylorGolf about 100
if i swing hard
One thing you did not do, was to show us the position of your club when changing club, is standard, or High
and is the driver loft accurate?
Excellent
Finish your backswing with your body and the start the downswing my friend
Doesn't the Taylormade hosel adjust in 0.75° increments? You are changing your 9° to 7.5°, not 7°.
New sleeve goes up or down 2 degrees in total
Ditto
Must get fitted. Changing loft also changes lie angle and face angle as well.
Problem now with getting custom fitted is that all the club manufacturers have such a backlog on custom orders since the beginning of covid.
This video is great, but it would be better if a golpher with a 18-24 handicap doing the test so us mere mortals would get a better idea of what loft to use
6:40 = my typical drive, a few times a round :(
Just an FYI DJ uses a 11.25 loft.
No he doesn’t 😂 he uses 9.25
😂
Do you teach lessons live and if so where
I do, I'm based at Herons' Reach in Blackpool.
Many LPGA players have 9 degrees of loft even their average clubhead speed is less than 100 mph. I suppose that most of them hit up on the ball.
A lot depends on the shaft and ball they are using too. The professional players spend hours and hours testing to determine the best combination of everything to maximize distance.
I think the lady professionals are also able to generate decent spin rpm from low lofted drivers because they have excellent extension through the ball (opposite to chicken wing) and thereby create maximum possible spin for the low loft to obtain optimal trajectory and height
LPGA average attack angle +3*, PGA average attack angle -.75*
So if you slice higher the loft
Yes with TaylorMade it closes the club face
I think this would only be a fair test if you did every swing almost identical, but your changing swing to try and demonstrate a different type of golfer, you could do that with the same head if your changing attack angle into out etc, bit pointless this video
If your low point is ahead of the ball with a driver, you need to correct your swing, not increase the loft.
Quite a few tour players have low point ahead with driver. Changing low point changes path as well.
@@AliTaylorGolf Hmmm, baffling.
The problem with youtube videos for me.. is no body does this is my swing speed everyone is either 110-115 swing speed for 90mph no
In the middle I sit at 100-102 and there is no body who swings that speed who does these videos
You swung two and a half mph faster with lower loft so not accurate comparison... But great clip
Your club head speed didn’t drop below 110 with the 7.5 deg and didn’t go over 108 with the other two heads. Really should’ve just hit them all the same.
I always create more speed with less loft. I push more into the ground to create more upward delivery and so more speed.
You don’t need x3 sim max 2s can I get the 10.5 please haha 😂
I have shaved off 5 strokes with this driver
bro looks like he could be ethan from the sidmen's older brother
An older guy should probably use a 10.5 ? At least get it up some?
I got my clubs for $15 at a garage sale, so... maybe?
Fittings are garbage and every time I've done it I wasted my money.
I think they are important, depends on the feedback you get during the fitting