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  • @prongs0611
    @prongs0611 8 лет назад +231

    I love the opening to Angel. He's almost like the Batman of the Buffy verse.

    • @The810kid
      @The810kid 8 лет назад +26

      AngelProductions so Wesley Is the punisher?

    • @prongs0611
      @prongs0611 8 лет назад +4

      The810kid Yes! xD

    • @galactic85
      @galactic85 8 лет назад +7

      More like the Daredevil of the Buffy verse.

    • @jaycievictory8461
      @jaycievictory8461 8 лет назад +17

      AngelProductions The cello in the music just *kills*. Mournful and soulful and can't make up its mind where it sits on the dark/light spectrum. Just perfect for Angel.

    • @prongs0611
      @prongs0611 8 лет назад +1

      Jaycie Victory Yes!

  • @LnPPersonified
    @LnPPersonified 8 лет назад +137

    Aw, you didn't play the whole thing.
    "I don't want to share my feelings. I want to find the guy who did this and look him in the eye."
    "And then what?"
    "And then I'm going to share my feelings."

  • @bobgray6498
    @bobgray6498 8 лет назад +235

    I love Angel and it makes me sad when people dismiss it as not being as good as Buffy. The shows are very different and Angel gives me something that Buffy doesn't and vice versa

    • @machirulo9996
      @machirulo9996 6 лет назад +4

      Exactly

    • @azalilystreams91
      @azalilystreams91 5 лет назад +8

      In honesty, though I watched both of these shows as they aired, I prefer Angel overall.

    • @danielinskip8427
      @danielinskip8427 5 лет назад +4

      Well series 1 and 5 are great

    • @ultraness
      @ultraness 5 лет назад +8

      I don't think Angel is as good, but I don't think it should be dismissed, either.

    • @BruceCruce
      @BruceCruce 4 года назад +2

      i like them both, alot, angel was funnier though, but buffy is buffy

  • @TheCrippledEgg
    @TheCrippledEgg 8 лет назад +63

    i remember when I started by first run-through of _Angel_. I wanted to get the complete boxset of _Buffy_ for Christmas, but I couldn't afford it so I settled with _Angel_. I must confess: it was one of the most powerful viewing experiences for me. Whenever I finished an episode, I always had a strong urge to watch another even though I didn't want to exhaust all my DVDs too quickly. Not many shows have thay effect on me. Even shows I enjoy I will look at the episode length so I can now when to move onto something different. For me, Angel wasn't a show. It was a journey.

  • @Cleapatra25
    @Cleapatra25 8 лет назад +267

    There is another thing I noticed that was different between the shows. The victims. I always felt so much sadness for all the victims in Angel more so then Buffy. In this episode Angel couldn't save Tina...Just like Buffy couldn't save Eddie in Freshmen. But you felt the tragedy of Tina's Death more because this show really takes time to make the viewer appreciate the victims. We got to know Tina..we understood her struggle and rooted for her to get out of there. Then Russel killed her. It was heartbreaking. And Because BTVS revolves around Buffy's growth it doesn't take time to analyze its victims or make you feel sorry for them in the way Angel does.

    • @The810kid
      @The810kid 8 лет назад +6

      Cleapatra25 I disagree there are a few victims that Buffy couldn't save that you felt something for Ford and Kathy I think her name was in season 7. I also felt bad for Eddie because he was the one guy Buffy connected with but yeah his death was an after thought in the episode.

    • @Cleapatra25
      @Cleapatra25 8 лет назад +10

      The810kid Case and point you felt bad for Eddie because it revolved around her. Angel victims were different to me. Ford is different because that was a unique episode. Im speaking in a general sense.

    • @tsukigalleta
      @tsukigalleta 8 лет назад +13

      My favorite victims (or I should say survivors) are the woman from "I fall to pieces" and Bethany, the telekinetic girl from "Untouched". I think I've never seen a tv show victim standing up for herself the way they did

    • @AnimeWars2002
      @AnimeWars2002 8 лет назад +21

      Because of the visions, Angel is much more about saving the victim while Buffy sometimes get's to skirt them as collateral damage.

    • @Cleapatra25
      @Cleapatra25 8 лет назад +19

      Thank You. I couldn't put it into words. It's like collateral Damage......thats how Buffy Victims feel. Even Angel revisits his guilt about not saving certain people but Buffy just skips through it and keeps trucking on. There is nothing wrong with that but it definitely puts a difference between the shows.

  • @jmwild1
    @jmwild1 8 лет назад +83

    On the topic of crossovers, if there's one crossover you *must* see in sequence, it's the Faith 4-parter coming up in Buffy season 4 and Angel season 1. Her story arc spread across both shows was astounding.

    • @thebritlanders4535
      @thebritlanders4535 5 лет назад +5

      jmwild1 Faith has that badass persona by the start and you see how much of s threat she can be without the mayor. By the end of the first Angel episode, everything broke down. It is beautiful.

    • @chrisandersen5635
      @chrisandersen5635 4 года назад +2

      And then later, the difficult redemption.

  • @FarhatC28
    @FarhatC28 8 лет назад +169

    OMG that opening is bloody AMAZING! Just as good, if not better than the Buffy one!

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +16

      I like it more :D

    • @2Good2BeTrue45
      @2Good2BeTrue45 8 лет назад +3

      Farhat C Just like the actual shows opening, Angel always literally had the best opening sequence and theme song and its no different on Passion of The Nerd

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +12

      2Good2BeTrue45 I love the Angel theme "Sanctuary" by Darling Violetta. That Cello sound is awesome and hauntingly beautiful

    • @FarhatC28
      @FarhatC28 8 лет назад +1

      Personally I preferred the visuals of Buffy's opening but the 'Sanctuary' music of Angel's opening although I will air guitar to Buffy's one, every. Time. The Angel visual opening always feels 'primary school' to me. Like a 6th grade kid came up with it lol.

    • @imkluu
      @imkluu 2 года назад

      I agree, the opening of Angel and the music is one of he best TV show openings of all time.

  • @tsukigalleta
    @tsukigalleta 8 лет назад +61

    My son fell instantly in love with Doyle, laughed like crazy at Cordy's "hey, you're a vampire!!" and repeated the scene several times, and adored Angel's "can you fly?" quote before his big superhero moment. Yes, this show was love at first sight for him. Can you imagine his outrage at certain characters' deaths?

    • @ciantaaffe
      @ciantaaffe 8 лет назад +8

      He wasn't the only one. I went through all the stages of grief with that death (I was 12 or 13 at the time it aired) and that episode still gets me right in the feels every single re-watch.

    • @miasummers3886
      @miasummers3886 8 лет назад +1

      I had read spoilers about it (I didn't expect anything to happen, much less that early), and after reading them I didn't want to finish the rest of the show, so that character would stay alive

    • @tsukigalleta
      @tsukigalleta 8 лет назад +1

      I understand your feelings. I can only tell you that if you stop watching you're going to miss the introduction of 4 more fantastic characters (one of them you already know if you've watched Buffy) who are also bound to find their way to your heart

    • @miasummers3886
      @miasummers3886 8 лет назад +1

      tsukigalleta I watched it. Once I knew it would happen, I could pretend it didnt happen. And yeah, I love Angel's Wesley

    • @tsukigalleta
      @tsukigalleta 8 лет назад

      Oh, I see! My mistake, glad you watched :)

  • @VNReader
    @VNReader 8 лет назад +104

    I have been waiting so long for this. I adore Buffy but I think I might like Angel more as a show, I definitely adore the main characters more.
    I am beyond excited for when you get to talk about Gunn, Fred, Lorne and Wesley.

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +17

      Four words- Hole In The World :D

    • @VNReader
      @VNReader 8 лет назад +11

      thunder1soldier That's my all time favourite episode of either show. Especially because it most revolves around my two favourite characters from either show.
      Why is Angel season 5 so perfect?

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +9

      Yeah me too, I mean, it breaks my heart because I love Fred so much that I wish she was a real person so I could marry her haha, but that episode hits all the right heart breaking notes that you cant help but love it.
      I also love Wesley's death scene, heartbreaking, but so beautifully done

    • @VNReader
      @VNReader 8 лет назад +8

      thunder1soldier Hard to believe Hole In The World is the episode directly after Smile Time. Damn you Joss, don't make me switch emotions so quickly. The end of Smile Time was something I waited 2 and a half seasons for and then we get that.

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +4

      HOLY SHIT IT IS TOO!
      Joss is a bastard coated bastard triple dipped in bastard... but we keep coming back for more lol
      Oh, and I love Illyria as a character too, but its just soooo brutal what happens to Fred. And I mean, death isnt always final in the Buffyverse, we know this... but her soul was literally destroyed... no coming back from that.
      I do remember hearing though, that if the show werent cancelled, there was going to be a storyline in which Fred and Illyria occupy the same body. I havent heard that from any official sources though

  • @YozoraHeart
    @YozoraHeart 8 лет назад +8

    I always love how genuinely happy Angel is to see Cordelia. In a new place after a heartbreak and feeling lost, even hella broody Angel is comforted by familiarity.He was never really close to Cordy, but she reminds him of a happier time.

  • @JackKramme
    @JackKramme 8 лет назад +36

    Well done you beautiful bastard, so excited for whats to come.
    So, I had no idea the vampire falling out of the window was a practical effect, Im extremely impressed. I think with something that "stunning" these days we automatically assume a computer had something to do with it.
    And yeah, Angel is kinda rough going at first, but unlike Buffy I dont think its first season is the roughest. We'll get to that though. I saw quite a bit of Angel when I was younger, and I guess more immature on these kinds of things but I always felt kinda frustrated that things very rarely go as they should so to speak. Theres always hiccups, someone dies, a couple doesnt get to be together etc and I just felt like Angel never "won"
    But years later, and after seeing the entire show, I came to realise that its that theme of atonement, and more so that its not something you achieve through a single act, and its an ongoing, arduous sort of thing. I came to realise that theme is strewn throughout the entire show.
    Ultimately its what made me fall in love with Joss Whedon, because at the end of the day you just never know what he's going to do.
    One last thing, I love Doyle too, but part of me kinda wishes Whistler was in the show, I just really liked that character

    • @brionycollins7898
      @brionycollins7898 8 лет назад +19

      Like Angel said, "If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do." I agree that when I was younger I got frustrated by the show because he never seemed to win. But now I'm older I can see that was the point. Angel could never truly win, so only the fight mattered to him, not the victories. I think that whole metaphor fits in perfectly with real life. Totally agree with you.
      And my heart is still broken from losing Doyle the very first time :'(

    • @JackKramme
      @JackKramme 8 лет назад +11

      yep, and admittedly, that cliffhanger REALLY pissed me off the first time I saw it only a few years ago now as an adult, I was just like "that's it? but what happens?"
      But as you said, that was the whole point, there is no grand victory, no single battle to end it, life is a struggle and always will be.
      and I got so much love for "Epiphany"

    • @pquk
      @pquk 3 года назад +1

      I think I read somewhere that Whistler was the intended aide to Angel but the actor wasn't available, hence Doyle.

  • @JD867
    @JD867 8 лет назад +8

    I always love seeing Angel's dark side. Kicking Russel out the window, locking the vampires in with Wolfram and Heart, those scenes really stick in your mind.

  • @gigicasanova4594
    @gigicasanova4594 8 лет назад +5

    thank u i been angel and buffy fan for years im 21 now and still watch. can't never get bored. you the only person made a video like this! i was very sad that people didn't care much about angel , it really had great story line. thank you again for bringing back good childhood for us angel fans.

  • @TheLetterFifteen
    @TheLetterFifteen 8 лет назад +25

    I originally tried to watch Angel season 1 at the same time as Buffy and gave up on it. But then when I started Angel on its own, I LOVED season 1. I think it works best viewed on its own.

  • @shanshu8870
    @shanshu8870 7 лет назад +4

    "If you give it some space..... and some time to discover itself, it will find a place in your heart. It certainly did for me"I love that those words are laced over those images of Cordy and Angel. Thank you for the gift of your channel and the deep conversations you evoke. Buffy and Angel are timeless masterpieces that I hold dear and resonate with- as many do and will do for years to come.

  • @xSnappa
    @xSnappa 8 лет назад +58

    In that scene where Angel found Tina dead, in the original script he was meant to taste her blood but the network thought it was too dark.

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 7 лет назад +5

      Yeah. In Season 1 they had a theme going where Angel was still struggling with his thirst after drinking Buffy's blood to cure himself of the Mayor and Faith's poison in Buffy Season 3.

  • @shishiodun
    @shishiodun 8 лет назад +4

    And so begins my absolute favorite show of all time. Damn that intro was neat, this is going to be fun. Really appreciate the effort dude.

  • @martophrenia
    @martophrenia 8 лет назад +45

    i clicked on this video as fast as а human being possibly can

    • @MultiRekrap
      @MultiRekrap 8 лет назад +5

      Vlad Tolstov lol same! I've waited so long for the Angel season guides😆

  • @YozoraHeart
    @YozoraHeart 8 лет назад +11

    I actually weirdly saw Angel before ever watching a single episode of Buffy, so it will always have the higher spot in my heart. I am so excited for these.

    • @epicfitness5815
      @epicfitness5815 4 года назад +1

      SonicRulez me too! Finally someone haha, Angel is still my favorite series

    • @andrewthezeppo
      @andrewthezeppo 4 года назад +1

      What did you think when Buffy characters popped up? I watched both as they aired so I can't really imagine what seeing some of those crossovers and flashbacks would feel like without knowing who people like Spike and Faith were

    • @milas3907
      @milas3907 4 года назад

      Me too! The crossover episodes are what eventually brought me to Buffy, probably around the time of the Faith crossover because I needed to know more about what she had to atone for.

    • @andrewthezeppo
      @andrewthezeppo 4 года назад +1

      @@milas3907 Buffy let Faith walk so she could run on Angel

    • @theboy1625
      @theboy1625 Год назад

      Same still barely have watched Buffy

  • @CyPhaSaRin
    @CyPhaSaRin 8 лет назад +18

    HEEEEEERE WE GO, been dying for this!

  • @2Good2BeTrue45
    @2Good2BeTrue45 8 лет назад +2

    Finally!!!!! The show that surpassed Buffy and is one of the greatest of tv shows of all time.
    The vampire with a soul and the guy the beats the bad guys.

  • @DanteAndVeRgiL92
    @DanteAndVeRgiL92 8 лет назад +4

    finally, a Angel guide I love it so much I think I will watch the series again, can't wait for your next video

  • @xSnappa
    @xSnappa 8 лет назад +4

    Been waiting so long for this!
    Angel's my favourite TV Show!

  • @TheCrippledEgg
    @TheCrippledEgg 8 лет назад +84

    damn boreanaz was in his prime here
    *(kisses fingers and spreads them outwards)*

    • @TheCrippledEgg
      @TheCrippledEgg 8 лет назад +12

      Matthew Galloway looks. though david's ability definitely amped up on his years on Angel.

    • @TheCrippledEgg
      @TheCrippledEgg 8 лет назад +7

      Matthew Gallowey I swooned a lot. He actually made the first two seasons too distracting at times.

    • @Cleapatra25
      @Cleapatra25 8 лет назад +5

      Skullexandria Gloomelda He was so sexy the first 2 seasons. I would definitely made him lose his soul. Damn a curse

    • @WolfRites
      @WolfRites 5 лет назад +4

      @@Cleapatra25 This turned fairly gross.

    • @andrewthezeppo
      @andrewthezeppo 4 года назад +1

      He is still good looking on SEAL Team and now I'm old enough that our age difference wouldn't be hugely inappropriate haha

  • @brionycollins7898
    @brionycollins7898 8 лет назад

    YESSSS! Angel reviews are here! I got the complete box set for Christmas, but I've been waiting to start watching them again until your reviews started. I'm so freaking excited for Wes to be back in my life again!

  • @superstarch
    @superstarch 8 лет назад +1

    Yay! I'm so happy you're doing an Angel guide!!! I love Angel so much! I actually started watching Angel before Buffy because I was in 7th grade when I saw the episode Somnambulist. I really liked it and was hooked. After the 1st season I realized that it was a spinoff and started watching Buffy. I couldn't really get into Buffy after Angel left because he was the reason I started watching in the first place. I still liked it, but I just started it for a different reason. So I am so happy to hear your thoughts and insights about this show!!

  • @RPG_Angie
    @RPG_Angie 8 лет назад +1

    I am so hyped for you doing both Angel and Buffy guides from now on.
    Also, your opening graphics game is fucking strong, man.

  • @maxking235
    @maxking235 8 лет назад +5

    A really underrated pilot and a great review from you. When I first saw "City of" I was kind of meh about it. There was some good characters and funny moments sure, but it didn't grab me. Until Angel kicked Russell out of the window. Then I was hooked.

  • @partycitydumpster
    @partycitydumpster 7 лет назад

    I'm such a proponent of watching all of one show and then the other, that I realize I even feel that way about your guides. Of course, please keep making them back and forth like how the show was created, I'm still gonna watch them when they come out, but I've found so far that I get the most enjoyment out of watching through the ones you have on Buffy, and THEN the ones you have on Angel.

  • @CaptainTimeStories
    @CaptainTimeStories 2 года назад +2

    I’m here now

  • @thegeekclub8810
    @thegeekclub8810 8 лет назад +23

    My only recommendation for watching Angel and Buffy is don't watch Angel first. There are a few spoilers for Angel in Buffy, but there are some major spoilers for Buffy in Angel. Switch or don't switch, make sure you watch Buffy first. I can't vouch from if switching is a good idea because I just watched Buffy straight through and then Angel straight through. But I will say that worked out well for me.
    Also, two reviews in four days? I can die happy!

    • @The810kid
      @The810kid 8 лет назад +1

      THE GEEK CLUB I would say the only spoilers that come from watching angel first that are big are in Angel's season 2 finale and Angel season 5 premiere.

    • @ladyblakeney
      @ladyblakeney 8 лет назад +1

      The first time I watched both shows I'd watch a season of one, then a season of the other. So, I think I watched 1, 2, 3 of Buffy, started 4, didn't like it and watched Angel s1 instead, then went back to Buffy S4, and pretty much just alternated back and forth from there on. So, there was switching, but less frequently, and I didn't feel like I was missing anything or being spoiled, AND I didn't have to jump out of one story arc and into a different one (Angel S4 and Buffy S7 in particular read a lot better IMO if you don't jump in and out of them).

    • @mizmimistarr
      @mizmimistarr 6 лет назад

      THE GEEK CLUB I’ve done both ways!!! Although switching can get time consuming if you use DVD’s it is actually better that way

  • @kristentaylor3390
    @kristentaylor3390 8 лет назад +1

    I love the intro. I'm excited for these Angel reviews. I was always a lot more into BtVS than Angel, so this will be a good refresher for the series.

  • @benedictcooper3131
    @benedictcooper3131 8 лет назад +6

    The intro is AMAZING!!

    • @PassionoftheNerd
      @PassionoftheNerd  8 лет назад +2

      It is. AM and Wil Hughes did an amazing job with it.

  • @vkdragonfire2123
    @vkdragonfire2123 8 лет назад +3

    YESSS!!! I am so pumped for Angel Guide, and this was a fantastic start! :D

  • @rushofblood994
    @rushofblood994 8 лет назад +8

    I've missed you so much TPN

  • @gabechrism
    @gabechrism 8 лет назад +4

    I never had trouble relating to Angel. This despite the broody batman routine, hell I related to even that. I took to it really easily.and had no issue finding a place for this show in my heart. And who don't worry not even Noir experts can properly define Noir.

  • @genchambers38
    @genchambers38 8 лет назад +37

    loved, loved, loved, this show, but what they did to Cordy's character in season 4 was absolute BS!

    • @JoshuaR7594
      @JoshuaR7594 7 лет назад +1

      Jennifer Chambers and her departure from the show in season five.

  • @Tamber37
    @Tamber37 8 лет назад

    So excited! I can't thank you enough for doing these. I have already watched the entirety of both shows and gone back to them periodically over the years, but even though I am not watching them currently your guides make me think about the shows in such a different and deeper light. I has also changed the way I watch tv and movies in general. Changed in a good way. Thank you. Really.

  • @corvus1970
    @corvus1970 4 года назад +1

    You're making me want to rewatch Angel in black and white.

  • @duvan.deschain
    @duvan.deschain 8 лет назад

    Just as I prefer the music in Angel's intro, I much prefer the intro you made for this reviews. Outstanding work as always!!! PS: I love the fact that the police force feels a lot more real here than in Buffy, somehow the show is able to include more fantasy and yet feel more real at times. Nice start, nice start.

  • @Dr.Beetlejuice110
    @Dr.Beetlejuice110 8 лет назад +1

    Angel is my favorite tv show of all time and can't wait to get into it more. There isn't enough conversation about this show which does deserve it. You said it right Passion of the Nerd, patience is key. Though I do often wonder what if the original plan for Angel had played out, having whistler being the Doyle part instead of having to create a whole new character. Whistler being that Doyle part was part of the original plan and the fall out was scheduling (I believe, definitely check me on that though). I can't wait for this journey of Angel we have now started!!! SO HYPED!!!!!

  • @LucyLynette
    @LucyLynette 8 лет назад +4

    For the question of how to watch the two series, my recommendation is to watch all of Buffy, then watch Angel, but keep track of where you are in the Buffy timeline as you go through Angel episodes (mainly in the first two seasons). That way, you'll get the references when the crossovers happen.
    Oh, and when you get to "Darla" (2x7), you MUST rewatch "Fool for Love" (BtVS 5x7) immediately before. That particular crossover isn't one about characters visiting each other's cities, it's about intertwined history, and it's beautifully filmed.

  • @paraboo8994
    @paraboo8994 8 лет назад +1

    I've never been much of an Angel fan, I could just never get quite into it, although I've seen probably more than half of the show.
    I'm really excited for this because I love your Buffy videos, so maybe these will help me appreciate Angel a little bit more.
    Love the intro, btw!

  • @lauraopper2571
    @lauraopper2571 8 лет назад

    I'm glad you've started this series. I've been looking forward to this. I do think it's somewhat important to mention the music, especially the intro, because it's so different from Buffy's theme song...it's more grown up, and more melancholy setting the stage for a different kind of show.

  • @Lita64
    @Lita64 8 лет назад

    Yay! I'm so excited for you to beautifully dissect this show like you have Buffy.

  • @omarelk194
    @omarelk194 8 лет назад +17

    You did it Ian. Drink in the success.

  • @Emiejg
    @Emiejg 8 лет назад

    YES! So glad you're back!!!

  • @chiaroscuroamore
    @chiaroscuroamore 6 лет назад

    Love love LOVE the introduction to the Angel Guides!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
    Am rewatching all of your Angel and Buffy videos at the moment 😍😍
    Your Buffy and Angel videos really bring out the best of both series and I enjoy watching all of them time and again! Brilliant work!

  • @adorkability
    @adorkability 8 лет назад

    Glad you're starting the Angel guide. Love your Buffy videos! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @PaperInky
    @PaperInky 8 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for this!! I watched Angel for the first time this summer, and have since rewatched it (playing in the background as comfort noise, or just before bed) three times. It's a hard choice on which show has the better ensemble cast, but luckily we don't need to make that choice :)
    There are a ton of shows like Buffy or Angel, in terms of supernatural creatures dealing with overwhelming odds, etc. But none, so far, have resonated with me the way these two shows did. And I think it's because Whedon and Co. were conscious of the limits of even superheroes, and that consequences, while hard on the characters, makes for a tenser, better story.
    Of course, Xander is the exception. That kid gets away with murder.

  • @phoenixmagi2
    @phoenixmagi2 2 года назад +1

    Angel does not break into Wolfram & Hart. He breaks into Russel's office building.

  • @zokolovcasual1151
    @zokolovcasual1151 8 лет назад

    I love this show so much and your channel is one of my favorites. Can't wait to see you dig into the existential themes of Angel as the show goes on

  • @pquk
    @pquk 3 года назад

    4:57-5:10 - love it. Laughed a lot and enjoyed the comparison. Maybe they should have shot Angel in B&W. Thanks so much for all the work you put into these reviews.

  • @firiel2366
    @firiel2366 8 лет назад

    Just when I thought I couldn't love this channel more. I'm currently re-watching Angel with a friend (it's her first time) and I look forward to your reviews as they come out.

  • @GothamKnight84661
    @GothamKnight84661 8 лет назад +3

    Oddly enough, i'm now re-watching season 1 of Angel. Angel is the Batman of the Buffy-verse. I like Buffy but i've always been more of an Angel fan. I like David Boreanaz no matter what role he plays but Angel is the one i favor the most.

  • @moralityisnotsubjective5
    @moralityisnotsubjective5 8 лет назад +3

    For me this series gets good when Wes comes in. He's probably my favorite of all characters in both series alongside Giles.

  • @Silphanis
    @Silphanis 8 лет назад

    I love it! Angel is my favourite TV show, so I'm really looking forward to your take on it. Great stuff so far!

  • @j.d.cunegan302
    @j.d.cunegan302 8 лет назад

    I find your point about Cordy feeling "more at home" on Angel than on Buffy interesting, because that's exactly how I felt about Faith. For all of my issues with Angel season 4, the three episodes in which Faith appeared were fantastic, and I thought Angel as a show treated her character far better than Buffy did -- because in a way, after season 3, Buffy as a show seemed to look at Faith and ask "Well, now what do we do with her?"
    But, to stop me from getting too much farther ahead of myself, I was so looking forward to the start of the Angel guide, and you have not disappointed. Well done, sir!

  • @mindyp51a
    @mindyp51a 8 лет назад +2

    Ian, I haven't even WATCHED it yet, and I'm ALREADY PLOTZING with JOY!!!!

    • @PassionoftheNerd
      @PassionoftheNerd  8 лет назад

      It's okay. I've seen better reviewers.

    • @mindyp51a
      @mindyp51a 8 лет назад +1

      Hey, don't be so modest! :-)

  • @rebeccapollock5980
    @rebeccapollock5980 8 лет назад +1

    OHHHHH I've been looking forward to this for so long!!!

  • @s13rr4buf3
    @s13rr4buf3 3 года назад +1

    The double stakes are Woo too.
    RIP Glenn Quinn.

  • @falcon3205
    @falcon3205 7 лет назад

    Thanks for your advice on watching this series sequentially or not I was curious about that. Also as always thanks for not dumbing down these vids in anyway. You speak to your viewers like adults and aren't afraid to use big words like Zeitgeist in articulating a point of interest. Appreciate it. Only seeing this series for the first time now and loving it. Interesting how Doyle is Irish, I cant help but remember Angels past whenever they converse. I cant help but feel like the accent is a little infectious, maybe its just me but I swear theres a slight irish tone to some of the things David Boreanaz says when they are talking, maybe inadvertently recalling some of his time on Buffy.

  • @RuptimusPrime
    @RuptimusPrime 8 лет назад

    I love this episode. It's one of the best episodes of season 1. Really looking forward to the rest of the guides!
    As for watching order, I'm very much in favor of watching the 2 series side-by-side. Seeing these 2 stories go along side by side makes the Buffyverse feel more alive and some of the crossovers are really neat. Also there's the balancing factor - Sometimes you have to go through a bunch of bad Buffy episodes and sticking a good Angel episode between them can help (and vise-versa, of course)
    Oh and also, love the opening!

  • @zigzagperson
    @zigzagperson 8 лет назад +1

    so awesome that you're doing both of the shows!!
    never thought about the deconstrction vs reconstruction of the main characters. need to think about it.
    :)

  • @mdvdrsghostbustersworld9934
    @mdvdrsghostbustersworld9934 8 лет назад +5

    Awesome, been looking forward to some Angel reviews. Loved it! James :-)

  • @kerupowe
    @kerupowe 8 лет назад

    i'm sooooooo excited!!!!! keep up the amazing work!

  • @DanY-gx2dv
    @DanY-gx2dv 8 лет назад +8

    You're my hero.

  • @MANJYOMETHUNDER111
    @MANJYOMETHUNDER111 8 лет назад +26

    I like Angel better than Buffy, mostly because I love noir.

    • @marmaladekamikaze
      @marmaladekamikaze 7 лет назад +2

      Agreed, however Buffy had noir elements in Season 2, that's why it's my favorite season.

  • @dancingjoy0788
    @dancingjoy0788 8 лет назад +1

    I literally screamed with joy when I saw this review up! Really looking forward to seeing your Angel reviews every week. And I agree with you that Angel should be watched sequentially on its own. Yes it is a spin off, but it really is it's own show. It has a much different feel than Buffy. Yes there are some duds in its first season, but even so -- season 1 of Angel is much better than season 1 of Buffy. Angel is definitely a show that should be watched from beginning to end. It only gets better with each season, so I hope new viewers stick with it 'til the end :)

  • @ECNewman
    @ECNewman 8 лет назад +1

    I'm so excited for these. Cordelia's arc is incredible.

  • @kd9855
    @kd9855 8 лет назад

    i've waited so long for this.. welcome back sir!
    And a Happy New Year!!

  • @ambearmerp9574
    @ambearmerp9574 8 лет назад

    Yes! I've waited so long for this!

  • @BuffyngtonPost
    @BuffyngtonPost 8 лет назад +23

    15 years later, Daredevil will cut and paste this entire pilot...

    • @guyr3618
      @guyr3618 8 лет назад +2

      Totally.
      To be fair, 'Angel' was just a cut-and-paste job too... In fact, didn't 'Angel' borrow a lot from old Daredevil comics?

    • @BuffyngtonPost
      @BuffyngtonPost 8 лет назад +6

      Guy R yes, but Angel was first in the television medium, plus, Drew Goddard worked in the buffyverse beforehand so it's even harder to ignore

    • @Emily-tj5tk
      @Emily-tj5tk 8 лет назад +2

      idkmybffjill730 ayyy I watch your buffyverse comic vids

    • @BuffyngtonPost
      @BuffyngtonPost 8 лет назад

      Nathan Jerome wootwoot!

    • @guyr3618
      @guyr3618 8 лет назад +4

      idkmybffjill730 yeah, I guess 'Angel was the first to do that as live-action TV.
      The one thing that REALLY made go "seen that before" is when Karen becomes the secretary at the end, just like Cordy. That's just TOO similiar.

  • @TheAdam159
    @TheAdam159 3 года назад +1

    LA Noire music? Brilliant!

  • @ThePoolIsAbstract
    @ThePoolIsAbstract 8 лет назад

    This is so exciting! I can't wait to see more Angel reviews!

  • @jmcame
    @jmcame 8 лет назад

    Yay welcome back!!!!!

  • @Gnomey97
    @Gnomey97 8 лет назад +1

    yessss! i did my waiting!!!!!! excellent guide! i have to agree about watching them seperately because i first watched them seperate not knowing that angel aired at the same time as season 4 until after i was done, but when o decided to rewatch them alongside the buffy episodes it became daunting, sure thete are some things here and there that would be understood better having watched them that way, but i dont think those were too important. (honestly everytime buffy shows up on angel i just get really tired of it because i dont really like angel when he is around buffy)

  • @marisalucia3629
    @marisalucia3629 8 лет назад

    I am soooo excited for this!! I can't wait to watch all of these. Eeeeee!!

  • @jasondetilly5647
    @jasondetilly5647 8 лет назад

    Buffy came on when I was a child and Angel when I was a teen. I think the latter had a more profound impact on me than Buffy growing up in that confusing time of life. I just loved the style and the themes. It really spoke to me. I do love both though. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts of later episodes! Great job!

  • @nickadair9502
    @nickadair9502 8 лет назад

    Super excited to hear your take on Wesley. His character arc, in my opinion, is one of the best in the Buffyverse (perhaps second to only Buffy herself?). I still remember the slow mo edit you did in the buffy episode where he gets introduced. *heart snaps in two*

  • @GamingLovesJohn
    @GamingLovesJohn 8 лет назад

    Yes! Finally! An angel review from this channel :D

  • @tobeornot221b8
    @tobeornot221b8 8 лет назад

    This was such a great review!! So pumped for the next one! Angel can be rough but it is SO worth it. 🤗👍🏻

    • @PassionoftheNerd
      @PassionoftheNerd  8 лет назад +1

      There was a lot of setup here. The rest of the Season 1 reviews will probably be a little shorter and more to the point. Less to say.

  • @willowflame13
    @willowflame13 8 лет назад

    unbelievably excited for this guide!!!

  • @austinsop7434
    @austinsop7434 8 лет назад +2

    I really like your opening title sequence. When I watched Angel the first time around, I watched it alongside Buffy, which was fun. But I agree that I enjoyed it more when I watched Angel again, by itself. The 2 shows are so different in tone and philosophy, and what you get out of them speaks to you on such different levels.

  • @margaretodonnell2931
    @margaretodonnell2931 8 лет назад

    Yes!!! Was waiting for this!!!

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 4 года назад

    Revisiting ians videos and I still love the bit when Angel jumps in the wrong car... Honestly I don't think that will ever get old.

  • @fbeemcee
    @fbeemcee 8 лет назад

    I've alway claimed that Buffy was a better show overall, but I find myself enjoying rewatches of Angel more. So excited to watch these guides. It may mean another rewatch in my near future.

  • @rowynnecrowley1689
    @rowynnecrowley1689 8 лет назад +1

    That opener gave me chills! Hollywood should hire you.

    • @PassionoftheNerd
      @PassionoftheNerd  8 лет назад

      Credit where credit is due. The opener was by a very talented guy who contacted me last year. He did the Buffy opener (and future movie review and Firefly openers) as well. His info is in the description. But yes, Hollywood should hire him.

  • @jennaramos1229
    @jennaramos1229 7 лет назад +1

    Love when you say "it certainly did for me" and show cordy and angel lol

  • @nicodemusfleur
    @nicodemusfleur 8 лет назад +2

    Love the new intro for 'Angel'!

  • @rachelbarrie5359
    @rachelbarrie5359 3 года назад +3

    Has anyone considered that when Angel says 'it all started with a girl'. We assume it's Buffy because she's the love of Angel's life ... however it could also mean the gypsy girl he fed on as Angelus. 🙂

    • @legzfalloffgirl5148
      @legzfalloffgirl5148 Год назад +1

      Or, it could have been Darla, the girl who turned him... the guy gets around 😂😂

  • @sacrament182
    @sacrament182 8 лет назад

    I'm so happy that this is finally here, my favourite show switched from Buffy to Angel after I'd watched Angel all the way through, having already watched Buffy through several times.

  • @JordanDC87
    @JordanDC87 8 лет назад

    great review. I look forward to seeing the next one.

  • @JasonLives666
    @JasonLives666 8 лет назад +2

    Great start, great intro to another show.
    I actually feel about Season 1 Angel the same way I do about Season 1 Buffy. I have a real soft spot for it. Its grainy, a bit dark and lit so intimately. It has a very family business feel to it, very gritty. Its a small operation. Think in Buffy Season 1, it was Buffy, Willow, Xander and Giles. 3 High School kids and a librarian. Here initially, its Angel, Cordy and Doyle. A demon in redemption/unsure of himself, a half human/demon messenger with baggage and ex Sunnydale alum Cordy. Its very much a small family like element to both Season 1s of both shows and I really liked that about both shows. Not that I have a problem with adding more characters as both shows do later on. Just saying I really like that element about the first seasons of both shows.
    In terms of the premiere. I do feel this premiere was very dry, but I do feel it does everything it needs to do in order to tell us what kind of show Angel is going to be. Its going to be about Angel's struggle towing the line. Its going to be about the visions, its going to be about Cordy without any money and its going to be about the moral grey area that Wolfram and Hart bring to the table.
    Great start.
    I do have problems along the way, much like with Buffy. I'll share them as I go, but for the most part. I think both shows are pretty solid all the way through.

  • @HYDRAKOMIKS
    @HYDRAKOMIKS 6 лет назад +4

    How dare you not mention the theme song! That's mah shat!! Best TV show theme ever!

  • @catherinethurmond4776
    @catherinethurmond4776 7 лет назад

    I'll have to try the swap out idea, I never did when I watched Buffy of Angel. I did however keep the episode guide books together with each correlating season as a visual and mental refresher to when the shows crossed over. Can't wait to start watching your analysis's

  • @KeatonWarner1
    @KeatonWarner1 8 лет назад +2

    Great video!! I love this show i'm re watching the series and right now i'm about to watch episode 8 I Will Remember You

  • @SuigetsuIsArt
    @SuigetsuIsArt 8 лет назад +2

    very very excited for this! easily my favourite Whedon show. watching BTVS i liked Angel as a love interest/satellite character but i wasn't super invested. ATS changed that for me. the show definitely had some rough patches and made some infuriating choices (s4/Cordelia spring to mind) but it's always resonated with me way more than BTVS, and even at their most infuriating (....Wesley) i still enjoy the characters a lot more.
    i think it's the addiction metaphor that really pulls me in. (i'm big on redemption stories and noir detective ones too!) alcoholism isn't something you're cured of. Angel will always be a blood-drinking vampire, alcoholics are always that no matter how many years you're sober for. and the moment you start to slip, it becomes a free-fall. it's the enemy within, and unlike disposable villains of the week/season that you know are going to get kicked to the kerb eventually, it never goes away. you're your own worst enemy and all that. great, great compelling pitch for a series.
    this dynamic is also why Big Man Hero Angel Saving Damsels never grinds me too much. looking at it directly from his character you have a really intriguing, long, and varied history of Angel and his Blondes and it's nice to see how each new version can be told. Darla victimized him ("Favor - is that what you think? - You think you did me a favor? - You damned me." has got to be one of my favourite lines from the series -- the way Boreanaz delivers it kills me), he ended up victimizing Buffy, and now he's getting his chance to be a savior figure which lets him save people from what was done to him while also redeeming himself for what he did to others.
    THEN you add in the addiction metaphor, and well. as Doyle says, it's not just about saving lives, it's about saving souls -- and maybe saving Angel's in the process. addiction recovery is defined by emotional honesty (Angel not wanting to talk about his feelings and the silence with Buffy on the phone being big nods to how he struggles with this part) support from others *and* supporting others. Angel's friends and his heroism are keeping him on the straight and narrow, but by helping people, he's also acting as a sponsor of a kind. Angel provides a lot of obvious heroics for people who can't, say, fight off a horde of vampires, but they're providing something back to him, and he's specifically empowering them to be able to save themselves at a later date.
    when we get to her, i think Fred and her journey is a good example of this. until A Hole In The World which is one of my most hated episodes ever lol but what are you gonna do.
    anyways, great study of the episode! i love your opening for Angel it's so cool. and Doyle is one of my favourites too. Glenn Quinn really knocks it out of the park.

  • @stuartmccall3692
    @stuartmccall3692 8 лет назад +2

    Thanks for doing this !
    Angel was always my favourite character and I watched his show religiously. Must admit after he left series 3 Buffy was never the same for me.
    Can't wait to see you dissect the Angel series as we go on.
    Do you ever just watch the shows and enjoy them or have you always broke them down to there metaphors and such ?

  • @warrengday
    @warrengday 8 лет назад +1

    Your Buffy Guide is one of the finest things on RUclips (up there with The Lizzie Bennet Diaries, CrashCourse, Craftversations, Poe Party) quality in-depth audio visual essays of the world's best TV program. Naturally perhaps these Angel Guides are going to be of a similar quality, the first definitely is.
    Why am I watching? I'm not into Angel (yet?) and I think for the reasons you mentioned: as I initially watched the original broadcasts interlaced with Buffy season 4's "liquid joy" and also as the writing didn't have it's footing. Although I often found episodes left me thrilled, the show just didn't resonate the way Buffy 3&4 did. Thus I watched all of seasons 1, but my viewing rapidly diminished as the seasons progressed. However, due to several Buffy storyline links appearing in several Angel series I did buy the Angel DVD boxset years ago for completeness, but I only rewatched all of season 1 once.
    However, I suspect by regularly watching this Angel Guide (should these be watched interlaced?:-), especially once you get to season 2 and beyond I will start to both watch and appreciate all of Angel at last.